This gun is still the main battle rifle of my country, Argentina ^^ We have models made in wood (Rigid stock, older ones) and in metal (Folding stock, newer ones) We even have a modification called FAP (Fusil Automatico Pesado) that works as a cheap replacement for a support weapon like the FN MAG or the M249
Interesting. I saw this rifle in Fallout 2 today, and I never heard of it before. I never expected to see it in this 10 Ten List.Thanks for the upload.
The FNC as a semi-auto carbine is a great collectors item in the US right now because of a couple of unique laws and the supply of available full auto sears. Approximately 4 or 5 years ago you could get a full auto FNC transferable for about 4k and some change. Now you can almost spend that amount for the semi-auto FNC.
As noted here, things seem to be going full circle. While the prevailing thought a while back was to move from 7.62 to 5.56 for a lighter, handier weapon which would let you carry more ammo. The higher velocity small rounds are at least as lethal to troops in the open. Unfortunately, actual combat lessons intervene and people suddenly realized they are missing a lot of penetrating power from the larger round when dealing with more entrenched positions. Sometimes, size does matter!
@StephenETavington Apples to apples. Both use a gas-piston, both are chambered in the 7.62x51, both weigh about the same. Personal ergonomics will dictate which one people like, how it feels in their hands. I like the top rolling Garand style bolt better on the M14, but I like the charging handle on the left side on the FAL. Both are effective.
@Flyguy779 yea, but the fg-42 has some features that can be found in the m60 gpmg's i readed but that doesnt mean its realy truely the same or even realy so much related btw, every rifle is based on the experience and mechanics of a rifle before that one, much or less
@vadyrasty Depends... If you have a license for it you can have a semi-automatic rifle at home, or in your trunk to or fro the gun club. Not many people do tho, the license to own something in a caliber as large as this would probably cost more than the rifle itself...
Came into service in 1985, but an early version was rejected in 1948 for the FN FAL, SA80's were used during the falklands by the SF and RM Commando's.
Yes, the L1A1 is called the "inch" pattern FAL. Their parts are not always interchangeable due to different machines that they were made on, British using inches, and Belgian using metric.
@Howie262 g3 have feeding problems because they can only fire specific ammo because of the delayed blowback design, while the fal can fire all kinds of .308
@esh325 it was origanally called the SLR (self loading rifle) which dates bak to the colld war and i think it was manufactured inbettween the World Wars
@funkyfenman Appreciate the input. The objective to gain full auto mode is to ensure the sear doesn't lock, therefore, virtually anything which will enable it to 'ride over" the bent will do the trick. Not forgetting the idea is to have full auto mode, not cause a stoppage. LOL
@psychoattacx the g3 and fal may look similar externally but internally they are very different. the fal uses a falling breechlock while the g3 uses a delayed blowback design both of which are very different and makes the fal superior
The FN FAL/STG58/SAR 48 style rifles are highly sought out in the US. DS Arms bought the Austrian STG 58 inventory and production machinery and brought it here to the states where DS Arms still produces their American version of the FAL. Being as the only firearm you ever saw was airsoft or in video game, I understand your confusion.
My Dad was qualified with the M1 Garand and the FN Fal. He told me that he barely noticed a difference in handling and aim with these rifles(Could be a personal opinion). He also said that these where the best rifles he had used.
@wtfronsson I have seen an L1A1, S.L.R., used as a 'tack-driver" under field conditions. The lack of recoil,and unbelieveable accuracy, were amazing. Used standard Mag (15 rounds capacity to eliminate any feed problem), plus an LMG 30 round Mag to show that the out standing accuracy demonstrated, was consistent . There were no optical sights used. Standard sights only. Standardl positions,standing,kneeling and prone. Much consternation ensued when the targets were inspected!!!
@Sgtkillbot unfortunately yes, although they can do same things, automatic for one, ironically they both were in service for the same period of time lol :)
@blueeyesseto AK fires 7.62x39mm, FAL fires 7.62x51mm, BIG difference. And the G3 is NOT a 223, it is a 7.62x51mm as well. And by tiny I meant the size of the weapon. AKs aren't really small, honestly but the FAL and G3 are much bigger in comparison. I mean, they are BIG mean rifles.
Accurate rife. I used to carry one in the Canadian army. But it's heavy like they said. And the high powered round really beats the tar out of you after a while.
I think it's cool to see the FAL make No. 5, not that it means much coming from one of these shows on the History Channel. The FAL can be described as "underrated" but mainly because it's seldom discussed as often as the AK, M16, etc. The lack of controllability is greatly exaggerated here, although it's safe to say that it's not as controllable as a typical assault rifle. Considering it was never originally intended to handle such a round, I think the gun has given pretty good service.
It's got better than average accuracy (on semi-auto) not sure why anyone would even want to use it on full auto though. Hit your target once and it's gone! Anyway good to see that they are still making updated versions of the FAL & G3. On a side note: the 417 and the SCAR are gonna be awesome btw.
@GoldNCase Yes and No. While they are extreemly similar, there are certain rifles that will only work with either one or the other. As I am sure you are aware, 7.62x51 is military stock, whie .308 is civilian. The FAL I use (all FALs from what I am told) will merrily eat both, and that is where the gas adjust REALLY shines. Bad casings and crumby powder are more a threat to the FAL, and every rifle. Keep in mind, I am NO expert, just trying to help. Good luck with your choice.
the FAL is a grate tactical and presition rifle i love the thikness of the hand gards and the stoping power/acuricy gaind by thwe 7.62x51 roundis astronomical it is a fun gun all around.
Which rifle would your guys with first hand experience prefer, the FN FAL or the M14? To be honest I don't know more about them than I have read, but a comparison seems legit to me... they both fire the 7.62 caliber cartridge, they carry the same ammount of ammo in the mag, and the age difference between the two rifles is not very big. Plus they are both mostly used in semi-automatic mode. Im just a little courious, cause I only know these rifles from what I have read, and from video games :)
The SLR L1A1 looks long but isn't really when your holding it. As well as it's hitting power 7.62 the extra reach you have with the bayonet fixed is a major plus in close combat when the sh*t hits the fan.
the AUG is a Battle Rifle also, but the guns are not meant to be compared, and yes, the gun wasd not durable and had EXTREME recoil, but it is not meant to be fired on full auto, it was an added bonus for CQC
At the end of the day the FN FAL (SLR to us brits) was an elephant stopper, but due to a mixture of NATO saying that were to change to the 5.56 round and a case of that most most close quarter battle (CQB) happens between 0-300 metres it was understandable that the weapon was changed with the L85A1(2) (not meaning to get into a pitched battle with the sa80)
@hedonismrocks Well actually the M14 is made directly from the M1 Garand, which was designed in the late 30's. So even tho the FAL was made before the M14, the overall design of the M14 was first cause of the M1.
Anyone whos fired the fal should know that gas plug settings below 3 will give you arthritis when your retired. I was amazed to see this weapon in the hands of civilians here on youtube. Glad to see they are still around. The FN could bring down an Elephant Makeing it the perfect hunting riffle.
I used a Fal and a British SLR for 15 months frontline . I wish I could have either one back . Our squad never had full auto but the rifle worked out well for us . A lot of ammo is wasted on full auto .Though Full auto will definitely keep heads down in a firefight .
@duanescot I always noted that handling had much to do with maneuverability. If that was the case here, I agree with them because the FAL is a long bloody rifle. And no, not the carbine version.
@discoder Exactly. I'd guess it to be a fair push, like a greeting from a close friend, I can't imagine why some people complain it hurts, although not many people have good posture maybe, but I'm a medium guy not super naturally built, though I try, and it's just a push (for rifles of similar caliber). Also the FAL has a buffer tube in the stock so should be less.
@damncritics actully i know alot i noted A/F rounds i am mastacen the ak fires a .303 round the FAL(SLR) fires a .308 round also G3's jam like hell and they fire a .223 or 5.56x something round as the G36C fires a 223 round the G3 G36k fire the same round as the Draganov
@brohan914 Oh an you can buy any military rifle aslong as its semi-auto so AKs, ARs, G3s, FAls, m14s exc.. are all legal to own . If you want short barreled rifles , full auto or silencers you gotta have a class 3 license and you have to be 21 for that an its a major pain in the ass to get, im happy with semi auto anyway.
@SuperCoDMasta: I don't shoot them, but I knew of it before COD. My dad once tried one in the army and preferred it to the SA80's the British use today. (My dad used to be an Irish Guardsman, and they apparently tested the SA80 before anyone else did. SA80 is only "okay"...Which from my experience means that he thinks it sucks, lol.)
That may be right Wildcat, but it is one thing to fire the fal on the range and another to use it on operations. There were faults. I used it in three very different war situation. Some of its problems from my aspect: It was not a particulaly accurate weapon for long range stuff. I speak as a Bisley team member. It was a overkill weapon for modern types of counter-insurgency ops. It did not like sandy conditions,you had to be on your toes for stopages. Frequent cleaning of gas assembly needed.
that was the squad automatic version is was semi/full auto but the version the other 90% of us grunts were using including canada Australia etc were semi auto only.
The twenty round mag makes it possible for a soldier to fire it laying prone. You can't fire the AK47 laying prone, not without raising the upper body or tilting the weapon on its side. I carried the 7.62mm SLR for years in the Australian Army and I loved it!
@duanescot i agree...and it has a somewhat slower cyclic rate for a full auto and is actually managable-actually more so than a full auto M14 and ive shot both
@boggypete0 i know what you mean. the only problem of the most guns today is that they dont have enaugh stopping power. so what i mean is if you should make an m16 shoot a bigger round it would be the ideal assault rifle (watch the m468) and 1 more problem is that it isn't really reliable (watch h&k416 or just the normal ak-47)
I have very fond memories of the SLR(British version of the FAL)my only complaint about it was the length,if they could have shortened it by 8 or 9 inches it would have been perfect.
@GoldNCase It is very reliable, my friend. The only issues I have ever had with mine were ammo & magazine related. Much easier to feild strip than the M1A(IMO), and quite easy to clean. Not as rugged as a good AK, but it is no prissy rifle either. I hope that this helped.
@eXowomb ah ok, i missunderstood something. than i'll take back my comment :) so germans imported the FAL, or how they called it G1 and used it for the bundeswehr?
@QBJ88 Yes. The forward looking British Army, did not want their people using full auto rifles. Using the well worn maxim, "aimed shots were a much better idea than full auto," thus ammo was conserved at one fell swoop! A slight mod to the trigger system with a file / small grinder, enables full auto to be obtained. However, that little mod ensures that the weapon only operates in full auto mode. One has to learn to "tap" with one's finger to obtain the desired result.::))
No gun expert, but this powerful rifle looks awesome, and if i start a collection, i'd like to have one. Still the cartridge capacity of only 20 rounds bothers me. US army had to up their m16 mags to 30 rounds to keep up in the cold war, and this rifle still only 20? I still like it, but doesn't it mean you have to reload more often than AK47 users? Unless there's drums or a 30 round clip available for the FAL...
They're most likely considering the full auto capability. Single fire, it has the inherent accuracy of a 7.62x51 Nato (along with the weapons platform) , with the inherent kick of the same round on full auto (given that the rifle was necesarily engineered to compensate for it). But i agree, when used properly it's a real marksman's rifle.
@13thmistral so no large caliber, autos, de milled rifles and pistols essentially? thats too bad, most of those here we get to enjoy, but they make you suffer em with the high prices.
Yes true it worked okay once they worked out the early problem. If I'm remembering right was improper barrel, type of metal used. Yes M16 Rifle & Ammo was lighter. I'm just very partial to a 7.62/.308, & the FAL such a nice Battle Rifle; still used to this day. I've read many times U.S. Vietnam Vets stating, they wished they would have had a Rifle that fired something that had more punch, penetration power, & that didn't deflect so easy (i.e. FAL or M14); & some Vets did use the M14 instead.
el fal era el fusil que usaba el frente nor oriental francisco sanchez en morazan departamento de el salvador a inicios de la decada de los 80'S este emblematico rifle de doble detonacion fue el estandarte del f.m.l.n. hasta 1986 luego ingresaron miles de kalasnikov Ak-47 para seguir con la lucha revolucionaria por parte de esta organizacion guerrillera. saludos desde El Salvador in the central america.
u gotta look at the whole design of the cartridge, no just the caliber. The P90 round is design for armor piercing and while it has low stopping power, in theory it is suppose to make up for it with multiple hit due to low recoil.
@willowrhayne well, quite simple i think for so far i know, .50 cal and higher calibers forbidden, automatic ones to, combat weapons to, penguns also and i think pistols also forbidden i thought the rest you can own i think
"The BAR has Selective fire, and it chambers a rifle round which makes it an assault rifle." 1. the BAR fires the 7.62x63 mm full-power cartridge. (assault rifles fires mid-power cartridges.) 2. the BAR's empty weight is approx. 9 kg. (assault rifles empty weight is less than 5 kg.)
This gun is still the main battle rifle of my country, Argentina ^^
We have models made in wood (Rigid stock, older ones) and in metal (Folding stock, newer ones)
We even have a modification called FAP (Fusil Automatico Pesado) that works as a cheap replacement for a support weapon like the FN MAG or the M249
Interesting. I saw this rifle in Fallout 2 today, and I never heard of it before. I never expected to see it in this 10 Ten List.Thanks for the upload.
The Falklands War was in 1982, not '83. Not off by much, but let's work harder on the research folks ;)
and no mention of it's use in the Bush war? Seriously when I think of the FAL I think Rhodesia and the Falklands not Vietnam.
The FNC as a semi-auto carbine is a great collectors item in the US right now because of a couple of unique laws and the supply of available full auto sears.
Approximately 4 or 5 years ago you could get a full auto FNC transferable for about 4k and some change. Now you can almost spend that amount for the semi-auto FNC.
"ALL soldiers like full-auto capability"
Man after my own heart \m/
As noted here, things seem to be going full circle. While the prevailing thought a while back was to move from 7.62 to 5.56 for a lighter, handier weapon which would let you carry more ammo. The higher velocity small rounds are at least as lethal to troops in the open. Unfortunately, actual combat lessons intervene and people suddenly realized they are missing a lot of penetrating power from the larger round when dealing with more entrenched positions. Sometimes, size does matter!
@StephenETavington Apples to apples. Both use a gas-piston, both are chambered in the 7.62x51, both weigh about the same. Personal ergonomics will dictate which one people like, how it feels in their hands. I like the top rolling Garand style bolt better on the M14, but I like the charging handle on the left side on the FAL. Both are effective.
five seven pistol, p90, slp semi auto shotgun, tps pump shotgun are some badass guns by F.N. love their products
@QBJ88 L1A1 SLR is the british liscence made version, it only fires semi automatic unless someone filed bits off here and there...
@Blago6actual British license pattern were inch pattern which made it slightly longer, metric was the standard template used by other forces.
@ARGX47 The Irish Army reserve were called the FCA when I was with them. I was a corporal with the 17th Infantry Battallion.
@Flyguy779 yea, but the fg-42 has some features that can be found in the m60 gpmg's i readed
but that doesnt mean its realy truely the same or even realy so much related
btw, every rifle is based on the experience and mechanics of a rifle before that one, much or less
@ Bren329
It is a remake of the G3, as they said in the video, the german sturmgewehr was the base of the FN FAL.
You rock, 7dc, keep the great video content coming!
@vadyrasty Depends... If you have a license for it you can have a semi-automatic rifle at home, or in your trunk to or fro the gun club. Not many people do tho, the license to own something in a caliber as large as this would probably cost more than the rifle itself...
Came into service in 1985,
but an early version was rejected in 1948 for the FN FAL,
SA80's were used during the falklands by the SF and RM Commando's.
No they weren't. SF used M16s.
Yes, the L1A1 is called the "inch" pattern FAL. Their parts are not always interchangeable due to different machines that they were made on, British using inches, and Belgian using metric.
@Howie262 g3 have feeding problems because they can only fire specific ammo because of the delayed blowback design, while the fal can fire all kinds of .308
@EddieTheFishReturns yeah, he's using a SUIT sight fitted to most british L1A1 SLRs (british FAL)
@esh325 it was origanally called the SLR (self loading rifle) which dates bak to the colld war and i think it was manufactured inbettween the World Wars
@funkyfenman
Appreciate the input. The objective to gain full auto mode is to ensure the sear doesn't lock, therefore, virtually anything which will enable it to 'ride over" the bent will do the trick. Not forgetting the idea is to have full auto mode, not cause a stoppage. LOL
It's one of those great weapons that will be seen for many years to come.
@zweb620
Yeah, SAS used to file down the safety mechanism so it could be switched to fully auto
@psychoattacx the g3 and fal may look similar externally but internally they are very different. the fal uses a falling breechlock while the g3 uses a delayed blowback design both of which are very different and makes the fal superior
The FN FAL/STG58/SAR 48 style rifles are highly sought out in the US. DS Arms bought the Austrian STG 58 inventory and production machinery and brought it here to the states where DS Arms still produces their American version of the FAL.
Being as the only firearm you ever saw was airsoft or in video game, I understand your confusion.
My Dad was qualified with the M1 Garand and the FN Fal. He told me that he barely noticed a difference in handling and aim with these rifles(Could be a personal opinion). He also said that these where the best rifles he had used.
@wtfronsson
I have seen an L1A1, S.L.R., used as a 'tack-driver" under field conditions. The lack of recoil,and unbelieveable accuracy, were amazing. Used standard Mag (15 rounds capacity to eliminate any feed problem), plus an LMG 30 round Mag to show that the out standing accuracy demonstrated, was consistent . There were no optical sights used. Standard sights only. Standardl positions,standing,kneeling and prone. Much consternation ensued when the targets were inspected!!!
@Sgtkillbot unfortunately yes, although they can do same things, automatic for one, ironically they both were in service for the same period of time lol :)
The halftrack was an American M3. The Iraeli's did use German Messerschmitt 109's for a short period of time.
handled one of these yesterday. It really does have a huge kick to it.
@stefanosalamoni
What weapons are you using? I think the M16, right?
Holland uses the Colt Canada C7 (but a new version) and a Glock-17
@SuperCoDMasta Shoot guns but never tried the FN, the G3A3 on the other hand. But it's virtually the same feel i guess.
@blueeyesseto AK fires 7.62x39mm, FAL fires 7.62x51mm, BIG difference. And the G3 is NOT a 223, it is a 7.62x51mm as well. And by tiny I meant the size of the weapon. AKs aren't really small, honestly but the FAL and G3 are much bigger in comparison.
I mean, they are BIG mean rifles.
Accurate rife. I used to carry one in the Canadian army. But it's heavy like they said. And the high powered round really beats the tar out of you after a while.
I think it's cool to see the FAL make No. 5, not that it means much coming from one of these shows on the History Channel. The FAL can be described as "underrated" but mainly because it's seldom discussed as often as the AK, M16, etc. The lack of controllability is greatly exaggerated here, although it's safe to say that it's not as controllable as a typical assault rifle. Considering it was never originally intended to handle such a round, I think the gun has given pretty good service.
It's got better than average accuracy (on semi-auto) not sure why anyone would even want to use it on full auto though. Hit your target once and it's gone! Anyway good to see that they are still making updated versions of the FAL & G3. On a side note:
the 417 and the SCAR are gonna be awesome btw.
@PatrioticGuru nice, quick question, how did u get the AKs into the country? I thought it was difficult/impossible to import foreign assault weapons.
@GoldNCase Yes and No. While they are extreemly similar, there are certain rifles that will only work with either one or the other. As I am sure you are aware, 7.62x51 is military stock, whie .308 is civilian. The FAL I use (all FALs from what I am told) will merrily eat both, and that is where the gas adjust REALLY shines. Bad casings and crumby powder are more a threat to the FAL, and every rifle. Keep in mind, I am NO expert, just trying to help. Good luck with your choice.
@ Ironlion27
G3 is a FAL copy... with some minor changes.
the FAL is a grate tactical and presition rifle i love the thikness of the hand gards and the stoping power/acuricy gaind by thwe 7.62x51 roundis astronomical it is a fun gun all around.
Which rifle would your guys with first hand experience prefer, the FN FAL or the M14? To be honest I don't know more about them than I have read, but a comparison seems legit to me... they both fire the 7.62 caliber cartridge, they carry the same ammount of ammo in the mag, and the age difference between the two rifles is not very big. Plus they are both mostly used in semi-automatic mode.
Im just a little courious, cause I only know these rifles from what I have read, and from video games :)
@666rogue666 it is way more related to a Garand. Just because it looks like an stg-44 doesnt mean it functions like one.
The SLR L1A1 looks long but isn't really when your holding it. As well as it's hitting power 7.62 the extra reach you have with the bayonet fixed is a major plus in close combat when the sh*t hits the fan.
the AUG is a Battle Rifle also, but the guns are not meant to be compared, and yes, the gun wasd not durable and had EXTREME recoil, but it is not meant to be fired on full auto, it was an added bonus for CQC
@willowrhayne exualy thats french
though it is from belgium, where they also speak dutch, fn herstal lays in the french speaking part of belgium
@Master7770 How many Black Ops videos will I find on your channel?
The "right arm of the free world".
Pretty much says it all. A serious, reliable hitter.
have u ever shot one, they are incredible... shot my first yesterday, so smooth
These guns are badass! I need to get one of these!
At the end of the day the FN FAL (SLR to us brits) was an elephant stopper, but due to a mixture of NATO saying that were to change to the 5.56 round and a case of that most most close quarter battle (CQB) happens between 0-300 metres it was understandable that the weapon was changed with the L85A1(2) (not meaning to get into a pitched battle with the sa80)
@duanescot you probably mean the newerly designed FN FNC? that one's has got very low recoil and good accuracy, though i don't rly know the FN FAL...
@hedonismrocks
Well actually the M14 is made directly from the M1 Garand, which was designed in the late 30's. So even tho the FAL was made before the M14, the overall design of the M14 was first cause of the M1.
Anyone whos fired the fal should know that gas plug settings below 3 will give you arthritis when your retired.
I was amazed to see this weapon in the hands of civilians here on youtube. Glad to see they are still around. The FN could bring down an Elephant Makeing it the perfect hunting riffle.
@skinnymason There are carbine versions of it, with folding stocks also =)
The FAL is a chunky beast, but I love the charging handle placement.
I used a Fal and a British SLR for 15 months frontline . I wish I could have either one back . Our squad never had full auto but the rifle worked out well for us . A lot of ammo is wasted on full auto .Though Full auto will definitely keep heads down in a firefight .
in terms of a zombie apocalypse, would you go for the FAL, the AK, the H&K G3, or another type of assault/battle rifle? Vote.
yea,they used to use the old vehicles from WWII including the M4 sherman but they gave it an upgrade
@skinnymason There are carabine versions of it, with folding stocks also =)
@siggibiggy FN FAL ROUND: 7.62, H&K G3 ROUND: 7.62
FN FAL ACTION : GAS OPERATED, H&K G3 ACTION:RD-B,
FN FAL RANGE: 200-60M, G3 RANGE: 100-400M
FAL VELOCITY: 2,756 FPS, G3 VELOCITY 2,625.
FAL BARREL LENGTH: 533MM, G3 BARREL LENGTH: 450MM
so yeah there basically the same thing.
@RedNekCoasters i agree it's just like the argue between the AK47 and M16 rocoil is often the the primary argument
@duanescot I always noted that handling had much to do with maneuverability. If that was the case here, I agree with them because the FAL is a long bloody rifle. And no, not the carbine version.
the FN was the first rifle i was trained on , now we use the styer AUG, good rifle , but for a long time it felt like a bit of a toy.
@LordWellington15 it started in 82, that doesn't mean it wasn't still happening in 83.
I joined the Canadian army After they stopped using this beauty.... wish I had the chance to tote this Rifle. Thanks for the vid :)
damn that was a very old rifle,and it still kicks ass today
@TheSilentPenguin12 you wont find much on the wa2000 only like under 500,000 were ever produced. i wish i could buy one.
@discoder Exactly. I'd guess it to be a fair push, like a greeting from a close friend, I can't imagine why some people complain it hurts, although not many people have good posture maybe, but I'm a medium guy not super naturally built, though I try, and it's just a push (for rifles of similar caliber). Also the FAL has a buffer tube in the stock so should be less.
@damncritics actully i know alot i noted A/F rounds i am mastacen the ak fires a .303 round the FAL(SLR) fires a .308 round also G3's jam like hell and they fire a .223 or 5.56x something round as the G36C fires a 223 round the G3 G36k fire the same round as the Draganov
@brohan914 Oh an you can buy any military rifle aslong as its semi-auto so AKs, ARs, G3s, FAls, m14s exc.. are all legal to own . If you want short barreled rifles , full auto or silencers you gotta have a class 3 license and you have to be 21 for that an its a major pain in the ass to get, im happy with semi auto anyway.
@SuperCoDMasta: I don't shoot them, but I knew of it before COD. My dad once tried one in the army and preferred it to the SA80's the British use today. (My dad used to be an Irish Guardsman, and they apparently tested the SA80 before anyone else did. SA80 is only "okay"...Which from my experience means that he thinks it sucks, lol.)
That may be right Wildcat, but it is one thing to fire the fal on the range and another to use it on operations. There were faults. I used it in three very different war situation. Some of its problems from my aspect: It was not a particulaly accurate weapon for long range stuff. I speak as a Bisley team member. It was a overkill weapon for modern types of counter-insurgency ops. It did not like sandy conditions,you had to be on your toes for stopages. Frequent cleaning of gas assembly needed.
@juongjaejong The British licence built SLR variant was only semi auto, but the real FAL is select fire.
stamped receiver, gas operated short-stroke(not long-stroke like the STGW-44), tilting breechblock
that was the squad automatic version is was semi/full auto but the version the other 90% of us grunts were using including canada Australia etc were semi auto only.
LOL at 2:33 it says "in 1983" referring to Malvinas/Falklands war... which actually took place one year before.
The twenty round mag makes it possible for a soldier to fire it laying prone. You can't fire the AK47 laying prone, not without raising the upper body or tilting the weapon on its side. I carried the 7.62mm SLR for years in the Australian Army and I loved it!
@Flyguy779 wasnt that like the ak-47 more ?
M1 Garand is a Main Battle Rifle, similar to the semi auto versions of the FNFAL, G3/C.E.T.M.E. and semi M14.
@duanescot i agree...and it has a somewhat slower cyclic rate for a full auto and is actually managable-actually more so than a full auto M14 and ive shot both
@boggypete0 i know what you mean. the only problem of the most guns today is that they dont have enaugh stopping power. so what i mean is if you should make an m16 shoot a bigger round it would be the ideal assault rifle (watch the m468) and 1 more problem is that it isn't really reliable (watch h&k416 or just the normal ak-47)
I have very fond memories of the SLR(British version of the FAL)my only complaint about it was the length,if they could have shortened it by 8 or 9 inches it would have been perfect.
@GoldNCase It is very reliable, my friend. The only issues I have ever had with mine were ammo & magazine related. Much easier to feild strip than the M1A(IMO), and quite easy to clean. Not as rugged as a good AK, but it is no prissy rifle either. I hope that this helped.
@eXowomb ah ok, i missunderstood something.
than i'll take back my comment :)
so germans imported the FAL, or how they called it G1 and used it for the bundeswehr?
is it practical to use it as a sniper rifle? Also without firing either it seems similar to an hk g3, would you say that's true?
@QBJ88
Yes. The forward looking British Army, did not want their people using full auto rifles. Using the well worn maxim, "aimed shots were a much better idea than full auto," thus ammo was conserved at one fell swoop! A slight mod to the trigger system with a file / small grinder, enables full auto to be obtained. However, that little mod ensures that the weapon only operates in full auto mode. One has to learn to "tap" with one's finger to obtain the desired result.::))
Thanks for the service. I hope to join soon myself. How were you allowed to carry an FAL? I would have been jealous.
No gun expert, but this powerful rifle looks awesome, and if i start a collection, i'd like to have one. Still the cartridge capacity of only 20 rounds bothers me. US army had to up their m16 mags to 30 rounds to keep up in the cold war, and this rifle still only 20? I still like it, but doesn't it mean you have to reload more often than AK47 users? Unless there's drums or a 30 round clip available for the FAL...
They're most likely considering the full auto capability. Single fire, it has the inherent accuracy of a 7.62x51 Nato (along with the weapons platform) , with the inherent kick of the same round on full auto (given that the rifle was necesarily engineered to compensate for it). But i agree, when used properly it's a real marksman's rifle.
@13thmistral so no large caliber, autos, de milled rifles and pistols essentially? thats too bad, most of those here we get to enjoy, but they make you suffer em with the high prices.
@13thmistral FN FAL is the result of the researches made on the stg 44! they took the stg 44 to make a new rifle based on the same mechanism moreless
Yes true it worked okay once they worked out the early problem. If I'm remembering right was improper barrel, type of metal used. Yes M16 Rifle & Ammo was lighter. I'm just very partial to a 7.62/.308, & the FAL such a nice Battle Rifle; still used to this day. I've read many times U.S. Vietnam Vets stating, they wished they would have had a Rifle that fired something that had more punch, penetration power, & that didn't deflect so easy (i.e. FAL or M14); & some Vets did use the M14 instead.
@drumdust And thanks to you guys for taking it outside to play!
@TheLegend474 well the c1 was a semi only version of the FAL, but also 20* better
el fal era el fusil que usaba el frente nor oriental francisco sanchez en morazan departamento de el salvador a inicios de la decada de los 80'S este emblematico rifle de doble detonacion fue el estandarte del f.m.l.n. hasta 1986 luego ingresaron miles de kalasnikov Ak-47 para seguir con la lucha revolucionaria por parte de esta organizacion guerrillera. saludos desde El Salvador in the central america.
u gotta look at the whole design of the cartridge, no just the caliber. The P90 round is design for armor piercing and while it has low stopping power, in theory it is suppose to make up for it with multiple hit due to low recoil.
@georgesouv
Nothing to tell except he didn't come up with the AK out of thin air. He had influences and they mostly came from the Stg / MP44
not over the internet or on paper, but I'll say that my most recently bought is a FAL from DSA, the cheaper STG in 21"
@willowrhayne well, quite simple i think
for so far i know, .50 cal and higher calibers forbidden, automatic ones to, combat weapons to, penguns also and i think pistols also forbidden i thought
the rest you can own i think
"The BAR has Selective fire, and it chambers a rifle round which makes it an assault rifle."
1. the BAR fires the 7.62x63 mm full-power cartridge. (assault rifles fires mid-power cartridges.)
2. the BAR's empty weight is approx. 9 kg. (assault rifles empty weight is less than 5 kg.)