Should use the fixed tv camera to mark the position of the white ball. Snooker needs to use the technology otherwise these farcical situations ruin the game.
That is what they do for matches like these. It is how the ref was getting instruction from the sidelines on what direction to move the ball. Even with the tech, it's not an exact science so errors can still be made.
Like Doug said, they literally do, officials have a screen that shows them exactly where it should go. It who they actually talk to when looking up and asking where it needs to go.
@@douglochery8641 Its why they need a laser system. And when asked to put the ball back, project a red laser onto the table. Obviously the laser needs to be calibrated before each match.
Time Hunter even if he's wrong Sullivan does his best to disrespect refs.Its ignorant behaviour sure he's a class player but often no class when dealing with people.
@@johndean4765 I mean he does have the skills to back up his arrogance, like when he won a match against another professional, can’t remember who, using his non dominant hand
If they want to invest the money into it, it wouldn't be difficult to have a camera or sets of cameras recording from above the table and then projecting the last position of the balls if needed onto the table to replace the balls with. Would just need investing into the technology.
@@SparJar I don’t watch snooker much anymore, but I’ve seen them do exactly that in the past. Overlaid the last position of the balls before on a screen and the ref places the ball back in exactly the same position. God knows why they didn’t do that here.
Compare the video at 2:27 with 0:12, it's quite clearly in a different place. I have seen a frame many years ago where the TV guy did help the referee to get the ball in exactly the same position.
Both Ronnie and the ref should have behaved better. Jud was a total gent. Annoyed but expressed it simply and when it was over he moved on without aggressive atmosphere. Exemplary!
@@TheScouseassassin sorry I meant no offence. I get a lot of spellings wrong, I scan things badly. I'm dyslexic and try to correct myself as best I can. You are quite right and I can see why you are quite so angry! Once again accept my appologies 😊👍
I thought that Olivier would come up and cut this Sullivan with one blow, but apparently I regretted it the first time, but the second time Ronnie will not have such a chance, because Olivier has a Black Belt in karate
They should implement like a pointer that is above the whole table so that the pointer (before the shot) localize exactly the centre of the cue ball and then, after the shot (in case it’s needed to be replaced in the same spot), use the pointer and put the centre of the cue ball in there
I’ve said this for years. Surly it isn’t beyond the realm of imagination to have an above table camera that scans where all the balls are before and after shot then have that connected to laser pointers to show where every ball was! I’d design the thing myself, only I can’t do that and that is why I am commenting on RUclips videos 😂🙈
@@albino5995 It isn't nearly as complex as it looks, with like a single store bought camera and a couple of markers around the table to calibrate, it can be as accurate as a 0.01mm deviation from original
Can simplify even more with some cheap laser pointers manually placed on each side so crosshairs are dead center of ball.... only upon request to keep the game flow.
O Sullivan for me, the greatest player of all time, love to watch him, and like him, but the truth is, he can be an arse sometimes. He is childish when he loses, and bullies referees, knowing their intimidated by his reputation and knowledge of the game. However no one’s perfect, I still love him!
Absolutely agree. When the ref was trying to communicate with him to figure this shit out and he just turned his back to him without saying a word, I really wish the ref would slap him in the face with that white glove
Olivier messed up badly twice. I’d be pissed too. First him and the camera ref couldn’t get the cueball back to its position and then Olivier likely thought Ronnie air cueing his cue stick looked like he was jacking it off or some bs. Olivier honestly was in the wrong and I think he’s had it out for Ronnie for quite a while actually. It almost looks like Olivier was searching for something here after being told he misspotted the first thin safety. So imo Ronnie was absolutely warranted to be an ass to him. I would’ve done the same thing in his shoes.
I've lost count of the times Ronnie has clashed with Olivier. Feels like a never ending grudge, but to be fair, the way Ron conducts himself with a referee at times is really disrespectful and rude and he should be disciplined for it. When he acts up like that, in that manner, it causes a really horrible atmosphere and undoubtedly hampers the play of the other player which is very unfair. Jud the consummate professional as ever and he deserved to win that.
So if the referee makes a stupid mistake, putting Ronny at a disadvantage, the atmosphere is more important then Truth and justice? That is BS. That referee shouldn't be a referee if he can't do his job!
@@TonyEnglandUK the concept of VAR is brilliant, but it is applied absolutely uselessly by idiots in the office who havent a clue. lost count of how many times VAR referees have got simple calls wrong this season. arsenal brentford springs to mind
Im rly happy that i knew the name Judd Trump some years before Donald Trump became President. Just because Snooker comes into my mind first when hearing Trump instead of stupidity :D
Ronnie is undoubtedly the greatest ever, and one of the most dominant sportsmen in his own sport ever. But... Also one of the most petulant, rude and distasteful sportsmen too. Like a man child
With all the computer and camera techonology in the world today, we still can't accurately tell where the ball was... From aerial view, a simpe grid can be drawn via computer and the square in which the ball previously was, easily be marked and guided to the ref via ear piece to where exactly to put the ball.
I thought the referee was very obliging and polite and willing to work with both Trump and O’Sullivan to set the ball correctly and in the process paid them the greatest complement by recognising that neither had it them to cheat.
Maybe satellite images could put the cue ball on the right position. Maybe the military could help. Maybe they could activate CERN and travel in time to see where the cue ball really was. Meu caralho...!!
Everyone knew Ronnie was the Great natural talent in snooker history, and now everyone knows he is also the GOAT of snooker history. No dispute anymore, even Hendry n Davis have said it! 😮
And osullivan said hendry was the all time greatest 🙈 hendry was untouchable if he hadnt stepped away theres zero doubt he would have dominated for another decade .. Hendry has won 72 professional titles putting him second on the all-time list, behind Steve Davis. However, Hendry is the record holder for the number of ranking titles won, with 36. In addition, he has won four team titles as well as several amateur titles. It took osullivan until 2022 to do what hendy done in 9 years and win 7 world titles .. 7 world titles in 9 years is also a world record stephen hendry was the greatest without a doubt thats why they all hated his guts 😂😂
I dont how u can say theres no dispute lmao hendry literally dominated the sport while he was in it no one could touch him specially not osullivan lmao guy literally walked off while getting a 4-1 spanking n said he couldnt take it anymore 😂😂😂 bro ur comment is dumb dumb ronnie been out here an extra 20 odd years to try match what hendry done n still aint close 🤦🏻♂️ and lets not forget hendry done it in a world of greats davis higgins osullivan.. ronnies out here playing against bums nowadays compared to the calibre of players back then 😅😅
Guys listen, If ronnie was wrong their than trump also would have not complained to refree. Both players did not like refrees gesture there and also when players are playing they are in their zone so they do not want any type of disturbance
Judd wasn't complaining because he thought Ronnie didn't do anything wrong, but because he would rather the referee had waited until he'd finished his break.
I find it funny at the comments suggesting if technology was used to spot the balls.... that Ronnie O'Sullivan wouldn't need to correct the ref. No sir. Ronnie will never be happy. He will always complain and make something out of nothing.
If he misses then surely the aponent can play on from where the ball is. Or make the player play the ball from where it is.putting the ball back is stupid..
Just shows how much pressure RoS was under with trying to win his 7th. When you’re trying to be perfect in every way and absolute conscious of your actions to not break any rules , as soon as someone says you have …hence RoS reaction.
ImMrrk You don't even know how to type his name correctly. Capitalise the "S" in "Sullivan" and use an apostrophe (') to separate the "O" from the rest of the surname. Hence: O'Sullivan.
Tbh I actually don’t blame Ronnie here one bit If you watch the opening 90 seconds of this clip Ronnie politely asks the referee to have a look as he is going for a very thin nick off the red but it’s very easy to miss it Olivier Martell was being arsy and not looking at it and saying it’s his shot and he’s seen the situation That’s why he asked Judd to come and have a look and then we go through this whole commotion Ronnie was actually using common sense Olivier Martell does like to be the centre of attention as he’s done things like this before
Oh piss off, you don't know him so don't pretend you do. The thing is, Ronnie did a Ronnie and just became extremely difficult for the sake of being difficult. Nothing more. Nothing but my respect for Olivier MARTEEL (Not Martell you bellend) who tried to be as accomodating to both players as he could and remained professional despite the disrespect Ronnie showed. And for the record, ronnie apologised afterwards. So he knew he was in the wrong there.
No he's right to make the referee make sure he respots it accurately, before taking the shot he asked the referee to check the position of the balls Incase he had to reposition them. The referee didn't know why Ronnie's was saying that. Clueless ref. To referee in snooker, the referee should have some level of playing experience, at least semi amateur level.
@@scouserdan3 the referee didn't understand why he was asking him to check where the ball placement was, before taking the shot. They need referees who have a bit of game experience to know what's happening in game time.
it can never be in the exact same spot. in the end the ball was placed to ronnies advantage. but notice ronnie didnt complain that now the spot is too good.
I never used to hear refs talk to players. They only time I heard them was saying the score or telling the crowd to pipe down. It seems more through the years refs are being thrown into the spotlight unfairly
I think he Ronnie loves the sport but he doesn't like the other side dealing with refs and if u watched one interview he was asked directly a question about his life and he said can we just talk about snooker that's what I'm here for.
It's time to play the music It's time to light the lights It's time to meet our Ronnie on the Ronnie Show tonight It's time to put on make up It's time to dress up right It's time to raise the curtain on the Ronnie Show tonight
This video is so obviously edited by an AI. it's hard for me to watch because of the completely unnatural flow, the abrupt changes, cutting things off too early, etc
if he can see a fraction of the red, he has to go for it. if he can't then he's snookered and can try a different shot. This is why at some point he asks if he could try another shot
That is very disrespectful towards the ref.. just shows you that nowadays they have no respect and are taking them selves way to seriously.. the Seriousness if you are watching Ronne and Judd is the front lines where Soldiers are fighting for all our freedoms right now as we we speak..... Ronnie if i was you i would oppologize to the Ref and get on with it.. looks like the pressure is getting to you and you seem very unhappy in your own life .
You can’t replace the cue ball exactly to its original spot In science it’s referred to as corrupting the field This marquis of queensbury rule needs to be changed. Afterall Boxing and snooker are not that different. lololol It’s stupid I’ve watched games where there were too many balls moved from one shot that it was impossible to respot them to their previous position. With the digital accuracy we have today it might be possible.
As much as I love Ronnie the snooker player ,.but..some of his antics , make me squirm , and the disrespect he shows referees and the game itself at times , are out of order,...I suppose its the flawed genius in him,...an extraordinary talent, but with demons.....
This whole business of replacing the cue ball BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL SPOT is rubbish and nearly impossible. This rule MUST BE CHANGED. ln scientific terms you are contaminating the field. In physics..YOU CAN NEVER STEP INTO the SAME RIVER TWICE.
I'm wondering that as well. I'm trying to read the rules a little over on Wiki, but from what I've gathered, on the first shot, the first player must a red ball first, but he may hit any of them. Unless he pockets any red balls in the holes on the first shot (the break?), then the red ball that was hit is "on", which means that ball must be put in a pocket hole first. and it seems that red ball must be able to be seen by the cue (white) ball and hit without any walls used.
O'Sullivan is getting too big for his boots, he is the best snooker player ever but for me boring to watch, why? because I want to watch a snooker match, not an exhibition of a player potting balls. He is on a different level to anyone else in the game but I switch off when he is playing, you just know who the winner will be 95% of the time. On occasions he behaves like a spoilt child and I will be glad to see the back of him.
Ronnie was correct about that red, ive looked at it several times! But, its also bery difficult fr the ref to that exactly spot on, you are talking about millimetres! And Ronnie shud know whrn he was pretty far in front, like most sports, you have to just take ebb n flow of the refs decisions sometimes.....but he's a maverick bonafide genuis! I thought the Ref cud have kept his composure a little better....Ronnie started out making light of the situation, but instead of joking about it, rhe Ref seemed to take a bit of offense n went a bit Authoritarian Attitude on Ronnie a bit, which is the worst thing fr Ronnie! As we know hes had many battles with the Snooker Authorities over the years! If the Greatest of All time tells u the white is not in the correct spot, then u know hes right! The Ref didn't want to keep moving the ball millimetres.... which was unprofessional for The GOATs level of exactly genius! Refs have to understand the personality of the key players in any sport, snooker, football, boxing, cricket, watever, in order the red that sport to the best of theur abilities.... their are rhe rules of the sport, and the human factors of the players involved. Rugby Union n Rugby League are the best refs in World sport in understanding this! But also the very hard men in those two games just crack on with watever the ref says.🙏
We could easily have a second camera where the cup is and use telemetry data or even say 6 cameras over pockets in roof, or even inside the actual pockets it give better angle of vision on each ball.
I believe that the ref thinks he saw Ronnie make a rude gesture with his hand, and went over to reprimand him about it. Regardless of whether Ronnie did it or not, the ref should have waited until after the frame to have a word with him as he upset the mood of the frame and disrupted Judd's concentration.
I don't know the rules of this game, what is going on here ? Could O'Sullivan hit any of the other red balls or try to use the border of the table to hit the red ?
Yes he could of hit the other reds but the idea is you don't want to "open the reds up" that is, you don't want to hit into a pack of reds IF you're not going to be able to pot one. If you were to hit hard into that pack of reds, you'd open them up and then give your opponent loads of chases to pot a red when they come to the table. So he wanted to go for the already open one to be "safe".
@@mmaphilosophy no he wasnt. he got an advantage from it. if you can find the real game footage they show shots of before and after and in the end ronnies angle is considerably easier than it was originally.
Nice video mate. Sullivan is goat 🐐
Snookers not a sport it's a game of skill control and timing nothing more plus there's no trainer's
O sullivan an emotion factory
Nah it's Trump now... Your O'Sullivan is hitting the sheets crying like a baby just like how he did in the tournament
@@amateurartist23 And in conclusion, the person who won the championship must lie down and cry?
@@kraipontaweesuk7813 He lost. Trump won. End of story
Should use the fixed tv camera to mark the position of the white ball. Snooker needs to use the technology otherwise these farcical situations ruin the game.
That is what they do for matches like these. It is how the ref was getting instruction from the sidelines on what direction to move the ball. Even with the tech, it's not an exact science so errors can still be made.
Like Doug said, they literally do, officials have a screen that shows them exactly where it should go. It who they actually talk to when looking up and asking where it needs to go.
@@douglochery8641 Its why they need a laser system. And when asked to put the ball back, project a red laser onto the table. Obviously the laser needs to be calibrated before each match.
My favourite part when I watched this live was Ronnie offering the ref his cue 🤣
Time Hunter even if he's wrong Sullivan does his best to disrespect refs.Its ignorant behaviour sure he's a class player but often no class when dealing with people.
@@johndean4765 I mean he does have the skills to back up his arrogance, like when he won a match against another professional, can’t remember who, using his non dominant hand
Cool story bro
@@dothething2892 it was v a professional women
You're telling me that with all of the technology we have now, we can't accurately measure where the balls are on a snooker table?
I know, it's totally ridiculous. 👍🏻
A simple graph like they use on spot the ball competitions
If they want to invest the money into it, it wouldn't be difficult to have a camera or sets of cameras recording from above the table and then projecting the last position of the balls if needed onto the table to replace the balls with. Would just need investing into the technology.
@@SparJar I don’t watch snooker much anymore, but I’ve seen them do exactly that in the past. Overlaid the last position of the balls before on a screen and the ref places the ball back in exactly the same position. God knows why they didn’t do that here.
@@SparJarSpot on!!!! I have Said this many times!
Compare the video at 2:27 with 0:12, it's quite clearly in a different place. I have seen a frame many years ago where the TV guy did help the referee to get the ball in exactly the same position.
Both Ronnie and the ref should have behaved better. Jud was a total gent. Annoyed but expressed it simply and when it was over he moved on without aggressive atmosphere. Exemplary!
His name is Judd, why is that so fucking hard to get right?, it's four letters!
@@TheScouseassassin sorry I meant no offence. I get a lot of spellings wrong, I scan things badly. I'm dyslexic and try to correct myself as best I can. You are quite right and I can see why you are quite so angry! Once again accept my appologies 😊👍
I thought that Olivier would come up and cut this Sullivan with one blow, but apparently I regretted it the first time, but the second time Ronnie will not have such a chance, because Olivier has a Black Belt in karate
99.99% of people don't care how you spell things. Most important is how to conduct yourself in public. Thanks for your interesting comment.
@@TheScouseassassin big hard keyboard warrior!!
This is what I love about the game! The accuracy that these guys have is phenomenal!
They should implement like a pointer that is above the whole table so that the pointer (before the shot) localize exactly the centre of the cue ball and then, after the shot (in case it’s needed to be replaced in the same spot), use the pointer and put the centre of the cue ball in there
I’ve said this for years. Surly it isn’t beyond the realm of imagination to have an above table camera that scans where all the balls are before and after shot then have that connected to laser pointers to show where every ball was!
I’d design the thing myself, only I can’t do that and that is why I am commenting on RUclips videos 😂🙈
@@albino5995 Snooker is in the dark ages compared to other sports in term of tech I think. They don't like to spend money!
@@albino5995 It isn't nearly as complex as it looks, with like a single store bought camera and a couple of markers around the table to calibrate, it can be as accurate as a 0.01mm deviation from original
Yea like Hawkeye in tennis
Can simplify even more with some cheap laser pointers manually placed on each side so crosshairs are dead center of ball.... only upon request to keep the game flow.
O Sullivan for me, the greatest player of all time, love to watch him, and like him, but the truth is, he can be an arse sometimes. He is childish when he loses, and bullies referees, knowing their intimidated by his reputation and knowledge of the game. However no one’s perfect, I still love him!
Alex Higgins is the greatest of all time, his power play was phenomenal his whole body often powering through the shot.
Absolutely agree. When the ref was trying to communicate with him to figure this shit out and he just turned his back to him without saying a word, I really wish the ref would slap him in the face with that white glove
its often the case when you reach those kind of levels in any game... the elites always seem to act like dicks
Olivier messed up badly twice. I’d be pissed too. First him and the camera ref couldn’t get the cueball back to its position and then Olivier likely thought Ronnie air cueing his cue stick looked like he was jacking it off or some bs. Olivier honestly was in the wrong and I think he’s had it out for Ronnie for quite a while actually. It almost looks like Olivier was searching for something here after being told he misspotted the first thin safety. So imo Ronnie was absolutely warranted to be an ass to him. I would’ve done the same thing in his shoes.
@@GLMusic12 he’s not allowed to tell the ref where to put it they’re supposed to get it right
To be honest Ronnie 'used' to get Cocky but not anymore and clearly I couldn't see any 'Rude' gesture here for the referee to point out
Allegedly, he stuck his middle finger up his nose and wiped it on table.
@@sp-pz8uc Bullshit !
@@sp-pz8uc no he never
Turning his back to him, going to his seat, and shaking his head without communicating anything. I think that's rude, no?
@@melvillefletcher4332 Not at all
He is just upset and it's absolutely Normal
These two guys. What a treat this is.
I've lost count of the times Ronnie has clashed with Olivier. Feels like a never ending grudge, but to be fair, the way Ron conducts himself with a referee at times is really disrespectful and rude and he should be disciplined for it. When he acts up like that, in that manner, it causes a really horrible atmosphere and undoubtedly hampers the play of the other player which is very unfair. Jud the consummate professional as ever and he deserved to win that.
a game of honesty and etiquette, like golf or they're nothing.
Referees a gimp.
Bit of a bully our Ronnie. Won't see him treat big man Jan verhaas like this
So if the referee makes a stupid mistake, putting Ronny at a disadvantage, the atmosphere is more important then Truth and justice? That is BS. That referee shouldn't be a referee if he can't do his job!
What was the 2nd issue towards the end of the video?
I can't help thinking that no game should rely on the manual replacing of balls in exact positions.
Snooker needs VAR.
no no we need the contraversy. video in football ruined it.
@@kylemenos Of course it didn't ruin it, stop being so reactionary. It took away as much silly controversy and guesswork as possible.
@@TonyEnglandUK the concept of VAR is brilliant, but it is applied absolutely uselessly by idiots in the office who havent a clue. lost count of how many times VAR referees have got simple calls wrong this season. arsenal brentford springs to mind
@@harveycooper5098 I'm sure that's true but you know there are 5,000 bad human referee calls without VAR that overcompensate for that
Im rly happy that i knew the name Judd Trump some years before Donald Trump became President. Just because Snooker comes into my mind first when hearing Trump instead of stupidity :D
What happens in the last bit can someone explain where the ref went over to ron
The ref is as good as the video editor of this pile of confusion!
OMG.. That ball is taking way too long to roll.. Gaaah, the ref is taking too long to walk arou... *SNIP*
Ronnie is undoubtedly the greatest ever, and one of the most dominant sportsmen in his own sport ever. But... Also one of the most petulant, rude and distasteful sportsmen too. Like a man child
Orw I totally agree with you sullivan has an awesome talent but this is no excuse for his at times ignorant disrespectful behaviour.
@futurememories1660 Imo Michael Phelps is the greatest sportsman in their field ever. How ever he's not rude or anything
The video description is a little over the top. This was most certainly not the most important game of their careers.
With all the computer and camera techonology in the world today, we still can't accurately tell where the ball was... From aerial view, a simpe grid can be drawn via computer and the square in which the ball previously was, easily be marked and guided to the ref via ear piece to where exactly to put the ball.
I thought the referee was very obliging and polite and willing to work with both Trump and O’Sullivan to set the ball correctly and in the process paid them the greatest complement by recognising that neither had it them to cheat.
Tell us you didn't watch the whole video without telling us you didn't watch the whole video
@@michaelbarrella3043 What?
@@michaelbarrella3043what happened in the end? i dont get it. What did the referee "see" for him to say that to Ronnie "i saw that"
Maybe satellite images could put the cue ball on the right position. Maybe the military could help. Maybe they could activate CERN and travel in time to see where the cue ball really was. Meu caralho...!!
Everyone knew Ronnie was the Great natural talent in snooker history, and now everyone knows he is also the GOAT of snooker history. No dispute anymore, even Hendry n Davis have said it! 😮
all that said he is a bit of a knob
And osullivan said hendry was the all time greatest 🙈 hendry was untouchable if he hadnt stepped away theres zero doubt he would have dominated for another decade .. Hendry has won 72 professional titles putting him second on the all-time list, behind Steve Davis. However, Hendry is the record holder for the number of ranking titles won, with 36. In addition, he has won four team titles as well as several amateur titles. It took osullivan until 2022 to do what hendy done in 9 years and win 7 world titles .. 7 world titles in 9 years is also a world record stephen hendry was the greatest without a doubt thats why they all hated his guts 😂😂
I dont how u can say theres no dispute lmao hendry literally dominated the sport while he was in it no one could touch him specially not osullivan lmao guy literally walked off while getting a 4-1 spanking n said he couldnt take it anymore 😂😂😂 bro ur comment is dumb dumb ronnie been out here an extra 20 odd years to try match what hendry done n still aint close 🤦🏻♂️ and lets not forget hendry done it in a world of greats davis higgins osullivan.. ronnies out here playing against bums nowadays compared to the calibre of players back then 😅😅
Ronnie sure lets himself down at times which is a pity!
Could watch these 2 play snooker all day
Not at all
Guys listen,
If ronnie was wrong their than trump also would have not complained to refree. Both players did not like refrees gesture there and also when players are playing they are in their zone so they do not want any type of disturbance
Shojahat Jhangeer.
I think the referees should only put balls back on the table after the shot is taken.
Judd wasn't complaining because he thought Ronnie didn't do anything wrong, but because he would rather the referee had waited until he'd finished his break.
I find it funny at the comments suggesting if technology was used to spot the balls.... that Ronnie O'Sullivan wouldn't need to correct the ref. No sir. Ronnie will never be happy. He will always complain and make something out of nothing.
Except when (cough) his nose is full. 😉
@@TonyEnglandUKHe sniffed the baulk line up.....😂
@@memphistube lol
Ronnie was right, the ref kept putting the white in the wrong place. Watch the full video of it.
Ronnie is a brilliant player , he doesn't need to do this fooling around
If he misses then surely the aponent can play on from where the ball is. Or make the player play the ball from where it is.putting the ball back is stupid..
Jud was Cueing very well, Just unfortunate misses.
Misses aren't unfortunate, you either pot the ball (good shot) or you miss it (bad shot).
That's a contradiction; if he's missing shots, then how can he be cueing well?
In any case at least Luca Brecel put Ronnie O'Sullivan in his place during the last tournament, Ronnie must stop playing the outraged Princess
Just shows how much pressure RoS was under with trying to win his 7th. When you’re trying to be perfect in every way and absolute conscious of your actions to not break any rules , as soon as someone says you have …hence RoS reaction.
he’s not a fucking raid boss what’s with the RoS 💀💀💀
O sullivan one of the best players of all time and certainly my favorite
ImMrrk
You don't even know how to type his name correctly. Capitalise the "S" in "Sullivan" and use an apostrophe (') to separate the "O" from the rest of the surname. Hence: O'Sullivan.
missed the point mate. O Dear
@@andrewhillphotosvideos2909
You don't have a point to make!
@@redblade8160bet you made mommy real proud with that comment.
@@mic300391 Mummy*
Tbh I actually don’t blame Ronnie here one bit
If you watch the opening 90 seconds of this clip Ronnie politely asks the referee to have a look as he is going for a very thin nick off the red but it’s very easy to miss it
Olivier Martell was being arsy and not looking at it and saying it’s his shot and he’s seen the situation
That’s why he asked Judd to come and have a look and then we go through this whole commotion
Ronnie was actually using common sense
Olivier Martell does like to be the centre of attention as he’s done things like this before
Oh piss off, you don't know him so don't pretend you do.
The thing is, Ronnie did a Ronnie and just became extremely difficult for the sake of being difficult. Nothing more.
Nothing but my respect for Olivier MARTEEL (Not Martell you bellend) who tried to be as accomodating to both players as he could and remained professional despite the disrespect Ronnie showed.
And for the record, ronnie apologised afterwards. So he knew he was in the wrong there.
why did the ref say that to ronnie in the end? what did he "see"
No he's right to make the referee make sure he respots it accurately, before taking the shot he asked the referee to check the position of the balls Incase he had to reposition them.
The referee didn't know why Ronnie's was saying that. Clueless ref.
To referee in snooker, the referee should have some level of playing experience, at least semi amateur level.
Ofcourse he has a player can question a referees decision
@@scouserdan3 the referee didn't understand why he was asking him to check where the ball placement was, before taking the shot.
They need referees who have a bit of game experience to know what's happening in game time.
it can never be in the exact same spot. in the end the ball was placed to ronnies advantage. but notice ronnie didnt complain that now the spot is too good.
I dont know any thing about this game
Thank you
That reposition was bs the ball was in the right spot first time
They’ve got overhead shots, can’t they superimpose where it was for the referee to reposition?
i wish rogan would get into snooker, and have Ronnie and Reyes both play 3 out of 5 in Snooker and Pool.
"You do it" 😂
Ronnie is a great player but a big baby. Trump a class act.
1:45 best moment😂
0:17 1:43 referee totally wrong here
I never used to hear refs talk to players. They only time I heard them was saying the score or telling the crowd to pipe down. It seems more through the years refs are being thrown into the spotlight unfairly
I think he Ronnie loves the sport but he doesn't like the other side dealing with refs and if u watched one interview he was asked directly a question about his life and he said can we just talk about snooker that's what I'm here for.
He is a very arrogant person by nature. Of course he loves the sport but here it's his arrogance speaking
lea.
O'Sullivan mistakenly thought that the interviewer wanted to talk about his "wife", not "life".
It's time to play the music
It's time to light the lights
It's time to meet our Ronnie on the Ronnie Show tonight
It's time to put on make up
It's time to dress up right
It's time to raise the curtain on the Ronnie Show tonight
👍 👏
What was the discussion about?
What did the ref see? Does anyone know?
He's had a number of clashes with this referee now.
Indeed.
This video is so obviously edited by an AI. it's hard for me to watch because of the completely unnatural flow, the abrupt changes, cutting things off too early, etc
Non snooker player here. Can someone explain what they are doing? What does that mean if he can see the edge of the red?
if he can see a fraction of the red, he has to go for it. if he can't then he's snookered and can try a different shot.
This is why at some point he asks if he could try another shot
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I'm not sure either of them reserved to win that! An unusually scrappy frame from these two top players.
I still didn't know Mr Bean was good at snooker
That is very disrespectful towards the ref.. just shows you that nowadays they have no respect and are taking them selves way to seriously.. the Seriousness if you are watching Ronne and Judd is the front lines where Soldiers are fighting for all our freedoms right now as we we speak..... Ronnie if i was you i would oppologize to the Ref and get on with it.. looks like the pressure is getting to you and you seem very unhappy in your own life .
Sullivan would never apologise to a ref even if when he's wrong.
Ok. Tq bro ❤❤❤
How do you play this game
Its high time to introduce technology in snooker for ball positions
How did he to that with the cueball at 6:47
Right spin makes cue ball go right when hitting the cushion
Just right hand side, it's very easy with a snooker que. In American pool it's called 'English' lol.
You can’t replace the cue ball exactly to its original spot
In science it’s referred to as corrupting the field
This marquis of queensbury rule needs to be changed. Afterall Boxing and snooker are not that different. lololol
It’s stupid
I’ve watched games where there were too many balls moved from one shot that it was impossible to respot them to their previous position.
With the digital accuracy we have today it might be possible.
Is there no foul towards the unruly referee? This one has been an issue too many times. Remove him please.
Ronnie knew what he was doing. He got Judd involved cos he knew he idolises him so would say anything… Ronnie - sharp practice
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Can someone explain?
As much as I love Ronnie the snooker player ,.but..some of his antics , make me squirm , and the disrespect he shows referees and the game itself at times , are out of order,...I suppose its the flawed genius in him,...an extraordinary talent, but with demons.....
This whole business of replacing the cue ball BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL SPOT is rubbish and nearly impossible. This rule MUST BE CHANGED. ln scientific terms you are contaminating the field. In physics..YOU CAN NEVER STEP INTO the SAME RIVER TWICE.
They say no player is bigger than the game but I think Ronnie is an exception
So much ceremony from Ronnie O'Sullivan for absolutely nothing
I don't understand. Why were they moving the ball manually? Honest question.
I'm wondering that as well. I'm trying to read the rules a little over on Wiki, but from what I've gathered, on the first shot, the first player must a red ball first, but he may hit any of them. Unless he pockets any red balls in the holes on the first shot (the break?), then the red ball that was hit is "on", which means that ball must be put in a pocket hole first. and it seems that red ball must be able to be seen by the cue (white) ball and hit without any walls used.
The goat,absolute master of his craft,but also an absolute bellend
Agreed
Mike Hunt a classy player yes.Certainly NOT a classy person.
O'Sullivan is getting too big for his boots, he is the best snooker player ever but for me boring to watch, why? because I want to watch a snooker match, not an exhibition of a player potting balls. He is on a different level to anyone else in the game but I switch off when he is playing, you just know who the winner will be 95% of the time. On occasions he behaves like a spoilt child and I will be glad to see the back of him.
Exactly, apply technology, do away with human error
Ronnie's the GOAT, but loves picking on this referee. You won't see him treating Jan verhaas like this
I don't know the rules, so excuse an ignorant question: why MUST he target that red ball? Because it was the first one hit?
I gasped at the final shot of that respotted black
Ronnie was correct about that red, ive looked at it several times! But, its also bery difficult fr the ref to that exactly spot on, you are talking about millimetres! And Ronnie shud know whrn he was pretty far in front, like most sports, you have to just take ebb n flow of the refs decisions sometimes.....but he's a maverick bonafide genuis! I thought the Ref cud have kept his composure a little better....Ronnie started out making light of the situation, but instead of joking about it, rhe Ref seemed to take a bit of offense n went a bit Authoritarian Attitude on Ronnie a bit, which is the worst thing fr Ronnie! As we know hes had many battles with the Snooker Authorities over the years! If the Greatest of All time tells u the white is not in the correct spot, then u know hes right! The Ref didn't want to keep moving the ball millimetres.... which was unprofessional for The GOATs level of exactly genius! Refs have to understand the personality of the key players in any sport, snooker, football, boxing, cricket, watever, in order the red that sport to the best of theur abilities.... their are rhe rules of the sport, and the human factors of the players involved. Rugby Union n Rugby League are the best refs in World sport in understanding this! But also the very hard men in those two games just crack on with watever the ref says.🙏
We could easily have a second camera where the cup is and use telemetry data or even say 6 cameras over pockets in roof, or even inside the actual pockets it give better angle of vision on each ball.
Surely they could have a projector above the table that shows the exact spot of the ball on the table when needed. It can't be that hard in 2024
What was the problem with the shot
Sullivan is the best, no doubt. But his spoilt brat attitude is awkward to watch.
times when Ronnie turns KNOB
No shortage of them 🙄
He doesn't like this ref.. Has had a few run ins with him
Good advert for betfred 😬
Ronnie doesn't like Marteil, but he absolutely hates Marcel Eckhardt
A shame because without Marteel, that wanker at the WSC from "stop oil" would've glued herself onto the second table. Yes, it's him.
The slightest of massés would’ve made the first shot nearly impossible to miss I wonder why he didn’t just go for that?
Positioning most likely
Typical Ronnie, when he has another reality in the head, he acts like a child which wants the toy of another child.
Anyone know what Ronnie was upset about?
Everything fvrt Ronnie O'Sullivan
Don’t start! 🤣
This game the officiators and the top players in the world even have to debate the rules.
Ronnie is an emotion factory easily distracted by minor things too tho his game is great.
Probably, his game is great for the exact reason that he is an emotional perfectionist of a genius 👌🏻
what did the referee "see" in the end? why did he say that to ronnie?
What are the rules if the referee is being an arse. Can the players abandon the match
9:09 What got up Ronnie's nose there that he was bitching at the ref about, please?
I believe that the ref thinks he saw Ronnie make a rude gesture with his hand, and went over to reprimand him about it. Regardless of whether Ronnie did it or not, the ref should have waited until after the frame to have a word with him as he upset the mood of the frame and disrupted Judd's concentration.
I wonder if Ronnie made an official complaint regarding the referees conduct?
That was a proper frame
What did the referee say to Ronnie, does anyone know?
I don't know the rules of this game, what is going on here ? Could O'Sullivan hit any of the other red balls or try to use the border of the table to hit the red ?
Yes he could of hit the other reds but the idea is you don't want to "open the reds up" that is, you don't want to hit into a pack of reds IF you're not going to be able to pot one. If you were to hit hard into that pack of reds, you'd open them up and then give your opponent loads of chases to pot a red when they come to the table. So he wanted to go for the already open one to be "safe".
Why did he get 3 points for that brown on a free ball? Also wasn't free ball rule available only before the last red was potted?
"u try" Ronnie said hahahahahaha
Ah hahahahahahahahaaaaa... Thanks for letting us know what he said or we would all be confused because we're a bunch of fucking idiots!
I think you'll find he said "you try".
@@TheScouseassassin Correct
That ref made FAR to many mistakes 🤦♂️ no wonder why O’Sullivan was genuinely pissed off.
Ronnie can be such a baby
But he was in the right though
@@mmaphilosophy no he wasnt. he got an advantage from it. if you can find the real game footage they show shots of before and after and in the end ronnies angle is considerably easier than it was originally.
what was the problem?