Titan Reloading out of Wisconsin I believe usually has the cheapest prices and they give you a loyalty discount after you buy from them a few times. I ordered that kit from them. Works nicely.
I finally ordered one of these update kits myself. Midway had a Lee press sale and I finally bought a 4 turret deluxe press and added the Autodrum update to the order. I have long wanted to try their 4 hole turret out. So I went looking for your video about the update kit. Thanks for all you do Vieho! I like the new clear jar for sizing projectiles on my APP but not as a powder hopper.
Hiya Patriot. Thanks for stopping by. I use my Lee 4-hole turret press quite a bit. They’ve just come out with a new one with 5 holes, but I’m not going to get one (yet) 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
That's a nice upgrade, and the old style hopper was always better than the new style bottle, wish they made it in smoke or clear. I may eventually get one and put it on my Auto Drum, but I have several risers that serve the purpose right now. On a side note, I've been using the translucent 1 lb. bottles that Eastwood PC come in, used the bottle adapters that came on the new style bottle and had my brother 3D print me a couple of the valves.
Thanks for the vid. You speak with confidence and are no-nonsense in your presentation. I really appreciate these and other things that are your signature...keep up the good works and RAWK 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
I just ordered a second old style hopper and an assortment of O-rings from Lee. I ordered a new Lee Auto Drum from Midsouth. They have some really good prices. Did not opt for the upgrade kit, which they do carry. I'm not having any issues with the older style locking ring. I've had pretty good success with the Lee Auto Drum and can usually hold about +/- 0.10 gn per throw. For load development, I still stick to my large or small cylinder RCBS Uniflo with the micrometer adjustment. I can hold 0.10 gn repeatability and document my grain throw settings for future loads with a particular propellant. Love Lee products though!
@@macoppoc7560 hiya, Mac. Thanks so much for stopping by. In many ways we fish in the same pond. I love my Uniflows. I also have calibrated my micro’s for various powders and have video on how to do that if you haven’t seen it. My Uni’s are my go-to for small-batch or even load development where I throw-low and trickle up on a beam scale. I get about the same resolution as you with the AutoDrum. I have several on Lee turret tool heads. Mine see the most use on that Lee Classic 4-hole turret press. All fine for range, trigger-time ammo. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
I have a drum powder measurer, and the metal body weakened and stretched at the base where the gap is. I switch back to the old disk powder measurer. I also had issues with consistent measurements with some powders
Mine stretched at the base. I used a c clamp to resqueeze it. No problems since. I find it very consisent, even with Unique powder. However, really fine powder like H110 does tend to leak on the bench a bt.
Thanks for the information. I've always used the riser extensions with the autodrum. It solves the crowding problem, but this will improve the issue of tightening. I do like the old hopper better.
That's awesome, Walter. I wish they would do something about how those measures leak with our really fine powders, like H110. That fix seems to be to try other drum inserts until you fine the one that leaks the least.😅🤠😎Thanks for showing this to us. I'm sure most of us will be buying these soon.
Watch "The Fix it Channel" video addressing this. Basically smooth out the drums resulting in a better fit. Have not had any powder leaks since I polished up all of mine.
Have loved these powder measures for bulk loading. Have alwaus hated that tiny little knurled nut for adjusting though. Really cool upgrade will be upgrading all of 4 of mine with this new kit
Thanks for stopping by, Draque. I currently have autodrums on all my turrets. The new nut makes it so easy to remove the powder measure, I'm thinking of taking them all off, just leaving the die on the turret sand moving the same powder measure from turret to turret as needed. That would simplify my storage somewhat.
Thanks for posting this update video. I have the kit ordered from Titan. It will be nice to have the new hopper on top. Loading 300 blackout, the powder goes fast. :( I just finished loading 300 rds of 380 Auto with the original setup, and the reverse indexing rod and kicker from Inline Fab. Made the work easy.
@@viejo2aIt was delivered today. Even though the instructions are good, your video helped me get the update kit installed and ready for service. Thanks again.
@Yukon4545 thanks for watching. If you watch the whole video, I gave the part number ( 92084 ) for the kit near the beginning of the video. The part number near the end ( AP1646] was, as I stated, the number for the hopper alone. Those numbers do bring up the correct parts on Titan. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
I so need to get this when I get extra money. My knurled part is about wore smooth from using pliers on it from being hard to get with my hands. Thanks for the video Walter 👊🇺🇸
Looks a lot better than using those risers they had. Had to use 2 to clear the dies, and it got real wobbly, not to mention, with 4 turrets, I had to have 8 risers.
Nice video. But here’s a heads up. I like the old powder hopper too. However, I had one of the tabs that hold the body of the measure to the adapter break off while charging a case. It flew off my press like a rocket, spewing powder all over the place. With the newer hopper most of the powder would have been contained. I will never use the auto drum powder measure without the new style hopper again.
No. The actual main metal body of the powder measure. There are the two tabs that you insert the new red swivel adapter thru. One of those actually snapped off.
@@viejo2a Walter, I been reloading rifle ammo since 2010. But I recent started loading for pistol ammo. I have zero issues when loading 40 cal. But I keep on getting the “coke bottle” effect with 9mm. Any advice on what I’m doing wrong?
@@williemoreno7801hi, Willie. The 9mm case is tapered from the base up to the mouth. If a full-length sizing die is used, the case mouth will be narrower than lower regions. When the bullet is inserted, particularly cast bullets at .356 or more, the top of the case will be wider than the middle and base. It is a common occurrence, and generally is not considered a problem as long as your cartridges chamber appropriately. The issue is sometimes mitigated with a different sizer die. The Lee carbide sizer is reputed to resolve the effect. Beside the sizer die, some other culprits are oversized bullets, too much pressure at the crimp die, and certain brands of brass. Personally, I only notice it when I use my Redding FL sizer, and don’t regard it as a problem. It’s doubtful that you are doing anything wrong. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
I like the idea of that charging die. I don’t much care for the powder thru expander. And would prefer to bell with a different die. Can you tell me where I can find that no expanding powder thru die?
Hi, Travis. That is the Hornady Lock-n-load AP powder funnel die. It’s available from most online reloading retailers such as Midway. I did a short review of it some time ago. ruclips.net/video/LX8jdzbjY-w/видео.htmlfeature=shared
...I b0ought a Pro 4000 and am thinking of setting each die up initially in the no 1 station to make accessing the set up easier than doing it in the successive stations...any comments, criticisms etc??? I would think that since all the dies index off the shell holder it shouldn't make any difference...am I wrong??? And why??? Thanx...
Hello, Mohammed, and thanks for stopping by. While I don’t have a Pro 4000, I’m not sure what you are saying here. If you are talking about, for example, adjusting your seating depth with the die in station 1, then moving the die to its proper station, then no. I would not do that. The tool heads are not all that precise (and neither are the breech lock bushings), there is the possibility of a die lock ring getting moved, and the shell plate will flex differently with just one die in place than it will with the plate full. For best precision and consistency, your seating depth and crimp need to be set with the shell plate full, and the dies in their proper respective locations on the tool head. I hope this is helpful.
...I should have mentioned that I'll be using the breech lock system, that would, at least theoretically, allow me to change the dies between stations (and presses, mebbe???) I started reloading 50 years ago on an RCBS Rockchucker that I bought at the post Rod & Gun club in Germany - I have an RL550B that I'm fixin' to use for rifle cartridges and this 4000 for pistol cartridges and thought it might make adjusting the individual dies easier to do at station #1...thanks, my friend...@@viejo2a
Hi, James. That might be too high? I’m thinking that might make the measure swing a lot as the turret rotates? Would have to try to see. As it is, it clears my dies so maybe no point? 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Thanks for stopping by, Mike. I think that the answer to your question is somewhat complicated. With presses where the die stations are farther apart then you probably won’t need the riser. Also, there are some seating dies with micrometers that may need more room. I think you would have to test it with your own scenario to make sure. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Actually a lot of folks use the powder containers. Then use the empty plastic jar to put the waste powder in until you’re done reloading. Drop it back in the container. Wal la!
Hi Raider. Thanks for watching and taking time to leave a comment. I’m sure that there are some people who use the black powder bottles, but not me. I tried it and didn’t like it at all. I find the ‘old school” red bottles a better fit for me. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Glad to see Lee is making the old style powder hoppers again👍🏻
Hi GaBoy. Me too. The other baby-bottle type suck! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Titan Reloading out of Wisconsin I believe usually has the cheapest prices and they give you a loyalty discount after you buy from them a few times. I ordered that kit from them. Works nicely.
Thanks! I use Titan occasionally too. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
I finally ordered one of these update kits myself. Midway had a Lee press sale and I finally bought a 4 turret deluxe press and added the Autodrum update to the order. I have long wanted to try their 4 hole turret out. So I went looking for your video about the update kit. Thanks for all you do Vieho! I like the new clear jar for sizing projectiles on my APP but not as a powder hopper.
Hiya Patriot. Thanks for stopping by. I use my Lee 4-hole turret press quite a bit. They’ve just come out with a new one with 5 holes, but I’m not going to get one (yet) 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
I had no idea Lee even had this out! Thanks!
It’s pretty new, Papa. Thanks for watching! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Good evening, Walter ... this is great news 😉 thanks for sharing, Brother 👊👍🇺🇸
Hi Jerr! Thanks for stopping by. Its always good to hear from you. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
That's a nice upgrade, and the old style hopper was always better than the new style bottle, wish they made it in smoke or clear. I may eventually get one and put it on my Auto Drum, but I have several risers that serve the purpose right now. On a side note, I've been using the translucent 1 lb. bottles that Eastwood PC come in, used the bottle adapters that came on the new style bottle and had my brother 3D print me a couple of the valves.
Hi 7sixtwo. Good to hear from you. Thanks! Great idea on the Eastwood bottles. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Thanks for the vid. You speak with confidence and are no-nonsense in your presentation. I really appreciate these and other things that are your signature...keep up the good works and RAWK 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
Thanks, DJ. You humble me! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
I just ordered a second old style hopper and an assortment of O-rings from Lee. I ordered a new Lee Auto Drum from Midsouth. They have some really good prices. Did not opt for the upgrade kit, which they do carry. I'm not having any issues with the older style locking ring. I've had pretty good success with the Lee Auto Drum and can usually hold about +/- 0.10 gn per throw. For load development, I still stick to my large or small cylinder RCBS Uniflo with the micrometer adjustment. I can hold 0.10 gn repeatability and document my grain throw settings for future loads with a particular propellant. Love Lee products though!
@@macoppoc7560 hiya, Mac. Thanks so much for stopping by. In many ways we fish in the same pond. I love my Uniflows. I also have calibrated my micro’s for various powders and have video on how to do that if you haven’t seen it. My Uni’s are my go-to for small-batch or even load development where I throw-low and trickle up on a beam scale. I get about the same resolution as you with the AutoDrum. I have several on Lee turret tool heads. Mine see the most use on that Lee Classic 4-hole turret press. All fine for range, trigger-time ammo. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Thanks for the heads up, may have to give this a try !
Hi Len. I’ll probably do a follow up review after using it for a while. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Great video Walter nice little upgrade
Thanks Mac! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
I have a drum powder measurer, and the metal body weakened and stretched at the base where the gap is. I switch back to the old disk powder measurer. I also had issues with consistent measurements with some powders
Hi, Robert. Thanks for dropping by. There are some powders that the autodrum does not do well, for sure. I won’t use mine with Unique, for example.
Mine stretched at the base. I used a c clamp to resqueeze it. No problems since. I find it very consisent, even with Unique powder. However, really fine powder like H110 does tend to leak on the bench a bt.
@@slotcarfan ditto with H110🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
I rig a plastic bowl between the die and powder measure to catch the leaking H110 grains.
Thanks for the info. I'll stick with the disk powder measurer. I have fewer issues with them.
Great video Mr B I don’t own any lee equipment at the moment. But I appreciate the detail in the assembly of the upgrade that’s for sure.
I appreciate that, Johnny! Thanks! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Heard you mentioned it Friday night. Very interesting I will check it out. Thanks for sharing 👍🇺🇸
Thanks for watching, Dwayne. I always appreciate hearing from you! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Thanks for the information. I've always used the riser extensions with the autodrum. It solves the crowding problem, but this will improve the issue of tightening. I do like the old hopper better.
Thanks for watching, Grassy. This will eliminate the need for the riser, but it does work ( I have a couple). 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
That's awesome, Walter. I wish they would do something about how those measures leak with our really fine powders, like H110. That fix seems to be to try other drum inserts until you fine the one that leaks the least.😅🤠😎Thanks for showing this to us. I'm sure most of us will be buying these soon.
Hi Jamie. Agreed..a fix for powder leakage would be great! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Watch "The Fix it Channel" video addressing this. Basically smooth out the drums resulting in a better fit. Have not had any powder leaks since I polished up all of mine.
👍🤠🇺🇲 Hope this works with the auto disk too.
Thanks, Six. I don’t know if it works with the auto-drum! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Great video, Walter! I only have one, and I just use the riser. This would give me one of the coveted old hoppers! I'll be looking to order soon!
Hi, Marc! Thanks for stopping by the bench! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Hi Walter great video much better improvement thanks for sharing
Hiya, Julio! Great to hear from you! I hope you are feeling OK today! 🤛🏻🙏🏻🇺🇸
Have loved these powder measures for bulk loading. Have alwaus hated that tiny little knurled nut for adjusting though. Really cool upgrade will be upgrading all of 4 of mine with this new kit
Thanks for stopping by, Draque. I currently have autodrums on all my turrets. The new nut makes it so easy to remove the powder measure, I'm thinking of taking them all off, just leaving the die on the turret sand moving the same powder measure from turret to turret as needed. That would simplify my storage somewhat.
Thanks for posting this update video. I have the kit ordered from Titan. It will be nice to have the new hopper on top. Loading 300 blackout, the powder goes fast. :( I just finished loading 300 rds of 380 Auto with the original setup, and the reverse indexing rod and kicker from Inline Fab. Made the work easy.
Thanks for stopping by the bench and taking time to leave a valuable comment, Michael! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
@@viejo2aIt was delivered today. Even though the instructions are good, your video helped me get the update kit installed and ready for service. Thanks again.
@@michaelhenderson5098 yay! I ultimately ordered a couple more. I’m glad you found my video useful 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
That part number on Titans website is for the hopper only.
Same on FS Reloading.
@Yukon4545 thanks for watching. If you watch the whole video, I gave the part number ( 92084 ) for the kit near the beginning of the video. The part number near the end ( AP1646] was, as I stated, the number for the hopper alone. Those numbers do bring up the correct parts on Titan. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
I so need to get this when I get extra money. My knurled part is about wore smooth from using pliers on it from being hard to get with my hands. Thanks for the video Walter 👊🇺🇸
Thanks for watching Jesse! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
@@viejo2a sucks it’s not on eBay. Probably flying off the shelves.
@@jesseboutdoorsreloading gads. Yeah, I just checked the guy I bought mine from..he’s out. Titan Reloading has it on sale right now🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
@@viejo2a I’ll keep that in mind when I get the money for it. I definitely need one lol.
Looks a lot better than using those risers they had. Had to use 2 to clear the dies, and it got real wobbly, not to mention, with 4 turrets, I had to have 8 risers.
Thanks, John. So far it’s working well. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Nice video. But here’s a heads up. I like the old powder hopper too. However, I had one of the tabs that hold the body of the measure to the adapter break off while charging a case. It flew off my press like a rocket, spewing powder all over the place. With the newer hopper most of the powder would have been contained. I will never use the auto drum powder measure without the new style hopper again.
Gene..are you talking about the part of the ‘red hopper’ that connects to the black valve? You know..the twist one way to open, the other to close?
No. The actual main metal body of the powder measure. There are the two tabs that you insert the new red swivel adapter thru. One of those actually snapped off.
@@geneo4444 wow..thanks for getting back to me. That’s not good news about that tab breaking off. I’ll now keep my eyes open. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
awesome upgrade!
Thanks, Kyle. Good to see you. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Nice upgrade from Lee 👊😎🇺🇸
It looks good, Tony. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Awesome piece.... great video Walter...
Thanks, Michael. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
That should make life easier
Thanks! Yes..I like this much better. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Lee stuff is always so finnicky
Hi Scotsman. Some of their stuff is for sure. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Thanks for passing on knowledge. 👍
My pleasure! Thanks for watching Willie! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
@@viejo2a Walter, I been reloading rifle ammo since 2010. But I recent started loading for pistol ammo. I have zero issues when loading 40 cal. But I keep on getting the “coke bottle” effect with 9mm. Any advice on what I’m doing wrong?
@@williemoreno7801hi, Willie. The 9mm case is tapered from the base up to the mouth. If a full-length sizing die is used, the case mouth will be narrower than lower regions. When the bullet is inserted, particularly cast bullets at .356 or more, the top of the case will be wider than the middle and base. It is a common occurrence, and generally is not considered a problem as long as your cartridges chamber appropriately. The issue is sometimes mitigated with a different sizer die. The Lee carbide sizer is reputed to resolve the effect. Beside the sizer die, some other culprits are oversized bullets, too much pressure at the crimp die, and certain brands of brass. Personally, I only notice it when I use my Redding FL sizer, and don’t regard it as a problem. It’s doubtful that you are doing anything wrong. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Nice modification 👍
Thanks, Mok! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
I like the idea of that charging die. I don’t much care for the powder thru expander. And would prefer to bell with a different die. Can you tell me where I can find that no expanding powder thru die?
Hi, Travis. That is the Hornady Lock-n-load AP powder funnel die. It’s available from most online reloading retailers such as Midway. I did a short review of it some time ago. ruclips.net/video/LX8jdzbjY-w/видео.htmlfeature=shared
great work brother
Thanks, my friend! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Good upgrade 👌 👍 walter
Thanks James. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
...I b0ought a Pro 4000 and am thinking of setting each die up initially in the no 1 station to make accessing the set up easier than doing it in the successive stations...any comments, criticisms etc??? I would think that since all the dies index off the shell holder it shouldn't make any difference...am I wrong??? And why??? Thanx...
Hello, Mohammed, and thanks for stopping by. While I don’t have a Pro 4000, I’m not sure what you are saying here. If you are talking about, for example, adjusting your seating depth with the die in station 1, then moving the die to its proper station, then no. I would not do that. The tool heads are not all that precise (and neither are the breech lock bushings), there is the possibility of a die lock ring getting moved, and the shell plate will flex differently with just one die in place than it will with the plate full. For best precision and consistency, your seating depth and crimp need to be set with the shell plate full, and the dies in their proper respective locations on the tool head. I hope this is helpful.
...I should have mentioned that I'll be using the breech lock system, that would, at least theoretically, allow me to change the dies between stations (and presses, mebbe???) I started reloading 50 years ago on an RCBS Rockchucker that I bought at the post Rod & Gun club in Germany - I have an RL550B that I'm fixin' to use for rifle cartridges and this 4000 for pistol cartridges and thought it might make adjusting the individual dies easier to do at station #1...thanks, my friend...@@viejo2a
You acted on that quickly - I had already forgotten about it after we discussed it in the live stream!
Hiya, Curtis! I had already ordered it at that time..took a while to get here 😀🔫🇺🇸
It may be even better with the standard Lee riser kit in combination with the kit you installed ?
Hi, James. That might be too high? I’m thinking that might make the measure swing a lot as the turret rotates? Would have to try to see. As it is, it clears my dies so maybe no point? 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
I wonder if this adapter will stop the popping in the thrower?? It looks like it will have less wobble in the whole measure?
Hi, Tomme. Of the 7 of these measures I have, none ever displayed the popping issue..so I can’t help you there. Thanks for watching! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Mine sometimes pops unless I use my finger to hold the case back into the shelk holder to line it up properly.
The instructions read .(point)78(seven eight) not 7/8 (seven eights). Good videos basically. Thanks.
Thanks for watching. About 10 seconds beyond where I said “7/8” I did correct myself and clarified to “.78” 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
$25.29 on MidwayUSA.
17.99 at titanreloading right now.
Do you still need a riser for rifles dies
Thanks for stopping by, Mike. I think that the answer to your question is somewhat complicated. With presses where the die stations are farther apart then you probably won’t need the riser. Also, there are some seating dies with micrometers that may need more room. I think you would have to test it with your own scenario to make sure. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
What form of Sorcery is this?
It’s the spawn of the wicked red witch of the NorthEast 😂🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Actually a lot of folks use the powder containers. Then use the empty plastic jar to put the waste powder in until you’re done reloading. Drop it back in the container. Wal la!
Hi Raider. Thanks for watching and taking time to leave a comment. I’m sure that there are some people who use the black powder bottles, but not me. I tried it and didn’t like it at all. I find the ‘old school” red bottles a better fit for me. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Nice, now I gotta spend more money 😂 👉💨
@Reloading from the hot pot Hi, Gene! Thanks. They’re cheap. On sale right now at Titan Reloading
I like the hat
Thanks, Bernie. It belonged to my father. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
👍😁🦶🪶
Thanks, Walks. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸