Darkel - GTA's Most Disturbing Cut Character

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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024

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  • @mattguy1773
    @mattguy1773 2 года назад +1016

    The cut character looks like some dude you would find in a dark alleyway

    • @latewizard301
      @latewizard301 2 года назад +62

      Looks like 60% of the guys at my local pub.

    • @shrimpfry8657
      @shrimpfry8657 2 года назад +22

      exactly what they were going for

    • @sw8467
      @sw8467 2 года назад +52

      Or in that underground tunnel where the Molotov’s are. Theres like 10 of them dudes😂

    • @ajaxmaxbitch
      @ajaxmaxbitch 2 года назад +15

      @@sw8467 isn't that where he was originally gonna be?

    • @sw8467
      @sw8467 2 года назад +5

      @@ajaxmaxbitch yeah i got ahead of myself my bad lol

  • @marcst3199
    @marcst3199 2 года назад +554

    Darkel = average Player after quicksaving

    • @anotherrandomguy8871
      @anotherrandomguy8871 2 года назад +26

      I alway think it’s kinda funny how we always see messed up characters in these games and we always have a “wtf? That’s sick” type of reaction, and then go on to murder a bunch of innocent NPCs in the game. It’s not a big deal since it’s a game, but it’s just funny.

    • @flaskanbottle9250
      @flaskanbottle9250 2 года назад

      Can you quicksave in gta3?

    • @justsealy
      @justsealy 2 года назад +3

      @@flaskanbottle9250 no. There is a autosave in the mobile and definitive editon tho but it isnt the same as quicksaving. You can only save in safehouses in gta 3 (also for other 3d games)

  • @jamesjjameson1632
    @jamesjjameson1632 2 года назад +730

    He looks like the main villain in a 90's drug PSA

  • @IDHLEB
    @IDHLEB 2 года назад +3640

    As with the most cases of lost media, the real thing is probably way less disturbing and dramatic than people make it out to be. Especially RUclipsrs, they love being overdramatic.

    • @dreamsprayanimation
      @dreamsprayanimation 2 года назад +225

      Drama gets clicks

    • @sandwichpony8071
      @sandwichpony8071 2 года назад +397

      I like lost media youtubers because they always make the video so unsettling and dark like the topic is a disturbing mystery unearthed when in reality it’s just a missing episode of spongebob lol

    • @rymle
      @rymle 2 года назад +8

      Lmfao yeah

    • @NaniJapaneseForWhat
      @NaniJapaneseForWhat 2 года назад +29

      SPONGEBOB BETRAYED US

    • @ghostpeyton
      @ghostpeyton 2 года назад +82

      This is 100% true, he was just a hobo mission giver no different from Salvatore or Toni cipriani

  • @LamarINH
    @LamarINH 2 года назад +2271

    This character certainly isn’t disturbing as the rumors make it.

    • @TheSoCalledZoner1
      @TheSoCalledZoner1 2 года назад +22

      he could have done disgusting with something

    • @dark_hood7
      @dark_hood7 2 года назад +220

      there's a much more disturbing character in GTA IV, Eddie Low, and he made it into the final game

    • @jakel5801
      @jakel5801 2 года назад +126

      Eddie Low was the most fucked up NPC I’ve ever encountered

    • @Chonkems
      @Chonkems 2 года назад +48

      In a world where games like SWAT 4: TSS and Ready Or Not exist, it's not really as big a deal as people make it out to be. SWAT 4 had a mission with several dead kids buried in a room. RoN is literally the most realistic SWAT game in years.

    • @coreycasciano3255
      @coreycasciano3255 2 года назад +3

      @@Chonkems eh that’s not that bad in my opinion, but Swat 4 and RON look like a ton of fun

  • @puffpuffpassmako
    @puffpuffpassmako 2 года назад +871

    Tbh I thought Darkel was going to be a child predator you unknowingly did missions for. Considering a good chunk of his missions involve kids and school buildings, I automatically thought he was a predator that lies to Claude into doing creepy stuff for him. Such as stealing an ice cream truck and delivering it to him for reasons he won't elaborate. Asking you to destroy a bus full of kids cause some of them are his victims that he fears may rat him out. Then in the final Darkel mission, Claude will catch on and rig Darkels ice cream truck to explode since he's so disgusted by him. Darkel will get in and be be killed by the truck exploding

    • @phobosanomaly5383
      @phobosanomaly5383 2 года назад +203

      That would probably have been really good way to redeem Claude for the past missions

    • @brandendierker5873
      @brandendierker5873 2 года назад +38

      That would be awesome

    • @Ghostfacekillah29
      @Ghostfacekillah29 2 года назад +65

      @@astolfothelyfer369 🤨📸

    • @malletUsergaming
      @malletUsergaming 2 года назад +23

      @@astolfothelyfer369 you really live up to your name

    • @mickmundy6687
      @mickmundy6687 2 года назад

      Those Tramps Were A Reference To the Terrorists Who Flew Into The World Trade Center, The Molotov Cocktails Are Probably Representing The 1993 Bombing, If My Theory Is True Then The Love Media Building Originally Had 2 Towers As Rockstar Employees Once Said That They ‘Removed Any Buildings That Looked Like The World Trade Center’
      Childs Play And That Mission When You Had To Blow Up A High School Building Were Probably Going To Be Reported As Terrorist Attacks In The Liberty Tree

  • @abulbatron5397
    @abulbatron5397 2 года назад +341

    This character would fit perfectly into the setting of the Manhunt

    • @TheDrugFreeThrasher
      @TheDrugFreeThrasher 2 года назад +44

      He definitely reminds me of the mission where you have to lead the tramp around and hide him in the dark. Graveyard shift I think it’s called

    • @Roderickthegray
      @Roderickthegray 2 года назад +10

      My thoughts exactly

    • @FriedmannKaiser
      @FriedmannKaiser 2 года назад +11

      @@TheDrugFreeThrasher Actually it's Drunk Driving.

    • @dannytorres8070
      @dannytorres8070 2 года назад +16

      What if darkel is that homeless guy you got to lead in manhunt 1?

    • @Cloaker86
      @Cloaker86 Год назад +2

      tbh he wouldve made sense in GTASA

  • @bigblue344
    @bigblue344 2 года назад +3455

    Let me get this right, players eliminating innocents NPC's is ok and is 80% of the fun in GTA but having a mission to do it is "too dark"?

    • @vietnamsemonky4082
      @vietnamsemonky4082 2 года назад

      Sadly some politicians of the time would have hammered gta even harder than they already tried to, guarantee there would have been more fake outrage, especially after 9/11

    • @tafua_a
      @tafua_a 2 года назад +767

      I guess allowing the players to do something is different from actually telling them to do it.

    • @Vesperfelis
      @Vesperfelis 2 года назад +570

      I think it’s more of the fact that yes: everyone in GTA kills innocent people, but the game never forces you to, so the “guilt” (I don’t know what other word to use) lies on the player and not Rockstar. But if there is a mission that specifically rewards the player for killing innocent people, then it’s sort of on Rockstar.

    • @nabilbudiman271
      @nabilbudiman271 2 года назад +325

      Darkel's mission was definitely too disturbing at that time. GTA III was released months after 9/11 and set in Liberty City, which based on NYC, and people still suffered after 9/11

    • @Aj-me8mo
      @Aj-me8mo 2 года назад +1

      @@Vesperfelis it's a damn videogame tho. I would happily kill children and innocent people in videogames and wouldn't bat an eye because it's a videogame and not real!

  • @magnaillusion6085
    @magnaillusion6085 2 года назад +75

    Would have been hilarious if the last Darkel mission was actual charity work.

  • @jarvindriftwood
    @jarvindriftwood 2 года назад +524

    The bus mission doesn't sound all that out of place in theory. In GTA 2 there was "Hot Dog Homicide!" a mission where you take a bus and pick up pedestrians (replaced with Hare Krishna on Playstation), then drop them off at a meat processing plant. They're ground into hot dogs and then you drive the hot dog truck to a diner.
    Also there's still some debate over the ties between GTA 2 and 3 since in 2 you play as Claude Speed and in 3 you play as Claude. Rockstar said in the one interview where they talked about Darkel that 3's Claude may or may not have the last name Speed.
    All that said, I don't buy them having kids or a high school in any of those missions. The game would've been banned from most stores and some countries had that been in it. Especially after Columbine.

    • @southofheck
      @southofheck 2 года назад +44

      I’m pretty sure GTA 3 was intended to have school busses driving around alongside the regular roster of cars, so I don’t think it’s THAT far fetched. It would make sense why they cut it, considering not even Manhunt tried to tackle mass child homicide.

    • @jarlboof
      @jarlboof 2 года назад +27

      @@starless267 yeah the marty chonks mission, surprised noone talks about those where you actually turn people that we have no idea they were innocent or not (probably innocent) for money but freak out about a bum telling you to blow up an ice cream truck on some people, something that i probably done as a kid

    • @BNK2442
      @BNK2442 2 года назад +10

      @@starless267 I always kill the debt collector and take his shoot gun after I end the last mission. It is as great way to have a shoot gun very earlier on and very cheap, as all those missions, if you remove their context, are basicaly 'taxi' missions.

    • @Cloaker86
      @Cloaker86 Год назад

      they legit replaced it with that on PlayStation??? thats fucking hillarious

    • @michaelhunt6920
      @michaelhunt6920 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@Cloaker86something the og commenter forgot. The PC version has them completely nude.

  • @koolandblue
    @koolandblue 2 года назад +350

    I remember discussions on online forums back in 2002 or so with topics about Darkel and how you could supposedly unlock him. He was alleged to be an antisocial homeless guy that generally hated people and society. He would have you do things like load up a bus full of people then walk away and blow it up. He would then pay you on weapons rather than money. I must have spent hours looking for him back in those days. Fun times.

    • @KristijanDimovski
      @KristijanDimovski 2 года назад +26

      fellow oldlad

    • @Abdullah.996
      @Abdullah.996 10 месяцев назад +3

      Okay gramps

    • @morganfreeman2102
      @morganfreeman2102 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@Abdullah.996you’re asking for it with that name buddy

    • @Abdullah.996
      @Abdullah.996 8 месяцев назад

      @@morganfreeman2102 asking for what exactly

    • @Assassineditsx
      @Assassineditsx 3 месяца назад

      @@morganfreeman2102 What's wrong with his name

  • @Amahankage2004
    @Amahankage2004 2 года назад +704

    Darkel was always so interesting, i still remember when i used to watch tons of videos be it theories, tops etc of GTA in like 2013 and he always had his little spot mostly when it came to videos about oddities of the games.
    Anyways great video, i quickly became a fan of your content due to your iceberg, keep the good work your videos are at almost the tier of nexpo, blameitonjorge etc.

    • @tylerwilliams33
      @tylerwilliams33 2 года назад +9

      What a fun time in GTA myths and legends, it was like '08 again.

    • @Amahankage2004
      @Amahankage2004 2 года назад +5

      @@tylerwilliams33 Yeah, for me it was later but im from south america so pretty much any sort of content always comes late so like 2012-14 still the nostalgia hits hard, GTA mostly SA was great for youtube.

    • @tylerwilliams33
      @tylerwilliams33 2 года назад +2

      @@Amahankage2004 I've always loved that SA was so popular down there so many awesome Spanish mods and content creators from over the years from there that keep that community breathing and constantly innovating along side the modern stuff like the GTA v RP servers that are popular today, that stuff pretty much started the myth community we all know and love, very nostalgic

    • @Amahankage2004
      @Amahankage2004 2 года назад +3

      @@tylerwilliams33 Gotta agree, i dont know why but SA became extremely popular and even to this day they still make content, some of the older youtubers left but there is always new guys coming in.
      Expanding on the reason i do have a guess, the PS2 was EXTREMELY popular in latin america like almost any kid had a PS2 because it was cheap and super easy to hack so anyone could have tons of pirated games since they were like cheap asf im talking like cents in the US (back then in the 2010's) and GTA was obviously popular so almost everyone had a copy.

    • @tylerwilliams33
      @tylerwilliams33 2 года назад +2

      @@Amahankage2004 truly nostalgic times, good to see it hasn't gone away.

  • @GreshOfficialYT
    @GreshOfficialYT 2 года назад +135

    it just hit me, they described him as “dark and evil” put the two words together “darkel”

    • @poweroffriendship2.0
      @poweroffriendship2.0 Год назад +27

      Plus, Darkel is named after the actual word "darkle" which means "to become clouded or gloomy".

    • @BasedMigz
      @BasedMigz 6 месяцев назад +2

      ⁠@@poweroffriendship2.0which rhymes with “sparkle”, the opposite

    • @SolidGeddoe
      @SolidGeddoe 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@BasedMigz which rhymes with Mirkwood,Lord of the rings is behind this

  • @XJustSomerandomGuyX
    @XJustSomerandomGuyX 2 года назад +207

    Damn i remember back when i was in 6th grade i would watch videos about darkel lol. Cant believe its been that long.

  • @swazaaa
    @swazaaa 2 года назад +42

    dude who came up with Darkel probably the same dude who pitched Manhunt. what a savage, great game too.

  • @seriousnorbo3838
    @seriousnorbo3838 2 года назад +245

    "GTA 3 has some darker elements"
    Or you could say... DARKEL elements

    • @blyat8832
      @blyat8832 2 года назад +12

      damn bro you got the whole squad laughing

    • @kidfromtownwithnoname3595
      @kidfromtownwithnoname3595 2 года назад +13

      😐👉🚪

    • @mysteryman765
      @mysteryman765 2 года назад +8

      Out.

    • @maxb4210
      @maxb4210 2 года назад +1

      Teeheeheheehe

    • @exttiint
      @exttiint 2 года назад

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  • @ToonCrate
    @ToonCrate 2 года назад +52

    Between Darkel's cut from GTA 3 and Scarecrow's cut from Manhunt, it's weird that Rockstar keeps creating violent vagrant characters only to drop them later in development

    • @VitZ9
      @VitZ9 2 года назад +10

      I remember back in the day when Manhunt came out, and wondering why they cut Scarecrow. He seemed like a great boss character, and he could have been used mid-game, where the game gets a bit repetitive. I'd have preferred that to guiding the tramp, but I guess they wanted an easier guide/follow mission before the reporters one in the end game.
      That said, I like the theory online that the tramp you have to guide around is Scarecrow, but if so, it was a wasted opportunity to not have him turn on you.
      My personal theory is it seemed like there was a point during the games design, that R* were going to have a boss for every gang, which they eventually dropped, and Scarecrow was a casualty of that. Also, based on being an ex leader of the Smileys, he might have been replaced by Ramirez. Maybe R* figured it was more satisfying to get revenge on Rameriz, as he is the one messing with you through the game and moving you from locations. Or maybe Scarecrow didn't really fit with the direction the narrative takes at the point of the game? He could have gone in the level with reporter perhaps, but maybe that made the level too difficult with the cops?
      But at the end of the day, I guess we will never know. 😞

    • @malletUsergaming
      @malletUsergaming 2 года назад +1

      @@VitZ9 yes it's sad that we will never know

  • @JR7noir
    @JR7noir 10 месяцев назад +16

    Disturbing is Claude saying ok to these Darkel's quests.

    • @Jareb_Delgado
      @Jareb_Delgado 5 месяцев назад +1

      he will do anything for a reward

  • @bezolsmate
    @bezolsmate 2 года назад +29

    The missions were cut, but the model for Darkel himself is still active. He’s actually UNDER the alleyway with all the tramps out of bounds. Like Rockstar just moved him out of bounds right before the game came out.

    • @PeeBurps-gk7cu
      @PeeBurps-gk7cu 9 месяцев назад

      Hobos/ or homeless bums you mean?

  • @MultiRman
    @MultiRman 2 года назад +203

    I actually can see why this would be cut from a dev perspective. That Rockstar quote was right. tonally it's VERY out of place. Claude may be a psycho but he's not a terrorist. Also they could've been afraid it would make liking Claude harder. when a player plays an optional rampage mission that's not mentioned or canon to the story or runs over a group of civilians that's the player doing that not the protagonist. But when you're given a story mission from an NPC that requires you to do it then it's the progtaganist doing that. And if the protaganist is doing some especially heinous shit then his likeability may suffer.

    • @errorcluckstv
      @errorcluckstv 2 года назад +18

      I think it also has to do with the 9/11 tragedy as GTA3 was released in 2001. It would make sense to scrap a character whose missions involve bombs or crashing planes into towers

    • @bigdick4090ti
      @bigdick4090ti 2 года назад +26

      @@errorcluckstv Yeah, it's moreso due to 9/11 rather than likability. They cut stuff because of that attack.

    • @Zmeeed01
      @Zmeeed01 2 года назад +14

      Considering that Claude was made mute to make it easier for players to manifest themselves as him, this makes sense

    • @rxcolee248
      @rxcolee248 2 года назад +2

      @@Zmeeed01 that’s not why claude didn’t have a voice actor

    • @TheKillerEmcee
      @TheKillerEmcee 2 года назад +5

      To like or dislike a character is totally personal choice. Rockstar doesn't have much or really any say in regards to that matter

  • @PapaCopperpot
    @PapaCopperpot 2 года назад +18

    “GTA’s most disturbing cut character is Darkel, gta’s most disturbing cut character”

  • @darkel1269
    @darkel1269 2 года назад +137

    Finally some recognition

    • @shetto
      @shetto 2 года назад +32

      the man, the myth, the legend!

    • @bearman2232
      @bearman2232 2 года назад +9

      @@shetto dude.ain't a myth he's right there

  • @zach8483
    @zach8483 2 года назад +81

    I think people are forgetting that all the player actions outside of the main missions are simply not canon, if we were to take into consideration all the senseless murder you can do in any of the GTA games it would make many elements in it's story nonsensical and pointless.
    Making that missing canon would have required some level of story and real consequences outside of a 2 minute wanted level.

  • @TheFoxEssence
    @TheFoxEssence Год назад +40

    I’ve always loved the lore of the classic GTA universe.
    It was also a time when things were a lot more ambitious and tongue and cheek.
    The darkness of the classic games is truly why I love them. It’s a huge vibe.

  • @woopoganntnt7379
    @woopoganntnt7379 Год назад +8

    can we agree how dramatic sourcebrew is? he’s always like this in every fucking video

  • @dositless9554
    @dositless9554 2 года назад +58

    Been waiting on this ever since you mentioned it in the iceberg lol.

  • @planescaped
    @planescaped 2 года назад +19

    "There may be more to it than Rockstar is telling us"
    It wouldn't surprise me that he was cut because he was too much manhunt for GTA. And I don't believe the PR guy doing the Q&A for a moment about 9/11 not factoring into them removing content. People might have forgotten now, but after it happened, the world became psychotically puritanical for a time. There was massive outrage over Lord of the Rings The Two Towers and demand that they change the name. -__-
    Heck, it also wouldn't surprise me if Darkel led to the creation of Manhunt eventually. Dark drimy murder with colorful gangs and a lot of hobo aesthetics?

  • @RileyDobbs
    @RileyDobbs Год назад +14

    Not only that Darkel is the most disturbing cut character, but also the most interesting cut character

  • @TheBestVirginian
    @TheBestVirginian 2 года назад +60

    I think the best way to try and figure out what these missions could've been is to look at other missions, voice lines, and references to see if there are any that refer to the homeless problem or bootlegging in GTA 3. For a game with as much in it as GTA 3 if they just removed Darkel's missions there should still be some bits and pieces left behind in other parts of the game

  • @Vrunge90
    @Vrunge90 10 месяцев назад +9

    Hey man, loving the use of 'Graveyard Shift' from the Manhunt OST. I love both games and I think the OST of Manhunt fits the gritty and gloomy vibe of GTA III's rendition of Liberty City perfectly. Loving your channel!

  • @TBRACKET
    @TBRACKET 2 года назад +67

    A School Bus, you mean a Federal Monitoring Truck?
    Kids on a Bus, you mean Federal Midget agents?

    • @why-nv5ms
      @why-nv5ms 2 года назад

      hey dude could u link me that banner u have

    • @BNK2442
      @BNK2442 2 года назад +6

      I am pretty sure they didn't even made any model for children in GTA because they knew the hot potato this would end up being.

  • @schwups5580
    @schwups5580 2 года назад +19

    intro: there was a really dark character in the grand theft auto series. a really dark and disturbing character. so dark and disturbing he was removed from the grand theft auto series. this is the story of this disturbing character from the grand theft auto series. the chracter that was so scary, grim, evil, dark, disturbing character that was so scary it was removed from the grand theft auto series.

  • @Barbozo89
    @Barbozo89 2 года назад +53

    Damn GTA 3 was about to be a pure terrorist simulator, if it wasnt for 9/11 a lot more controversy would've probably still been made possibly ending the series here

    • @Jws20
      @Jws20 2 года назад +12

      Rockstar said barely anything was changed, the game was 1% different. The only things that were mentioned by the devs were small things like the police cars went from blue to black and changing a planes flight pattern to fly further away from city buildings. The biggest change was making it so planes at the airport couldn’t be blown up

    • @EonServoXA
      @EonServoXA 2 года назад +1

      @@Jws20 They said that they removed some missions that were related to terrorism

    • @Jws20
      @Jws20 2 года назад +5

      @@EonServoXA no, they said they removed a mission that had the line terrorist in it because it was either easier than replacing the line or it was too obvious what the people in the mission may have been. The other thing they did was replace the caption, “spanked up suicide bombers” to “spanked up madmen”

  • @DetectiveJones
    @DetectiveJones 2 года назад +10

    I always love learning about things that were cut from a game especially if theres a story or reason behind it rather than just didnt have time to finish it or something wasnt working

  • @comettamer
    @comettamer 2 года назад +16

    Love how they managed to tie Boomshine into the game in such a crazy way.

    • @Zmeeed01
      @Zmeeed01 2 года назад +13

      And that was before Boomshine was canonically implemented later in Vice City. They didn't forget.

    • @comettamer
      @comettamer 2 года назад +2

      @@Zmeeed01 No they didnt

  • @AonGamerChannel
    @AonGamerChannel 2 года назад +59

    When Rockstar said that Darkel missions didn't fit into the storyline then i think there were trying to say that his missions were optional as well as, in GTA 3 Every character follows a introduction in the storyline, like this:
    8-Ball meets Claude in Give Me Liberty
    8-Ball introduces Claude to Luigi Gotterelli
    Luigi introduces Claude to Misty
    Misty introduces Claude to Joey
    Joey introduces Claude to Toni Cipriani and Salvatore Leone
    Salvatore Leone introduces Claude to Maria
    Then Maria is the last person who introduces Claude to Asuka in Portland
    The Question is that who would've introduced Darkel to Claude in GTA 3❓
    There has to be someone who would've introduced Darkel to Claude in GTA 3 if he was really in the game.

    • @AeridesEntertainment
      @AeridesEntertainment 2 года назад +19

      Nobody introduced Claude to El Burro except El Burro himself, iirc.

    • @AonGamerChannel
      @AonGamerChannel 2 года назад +19

      @@AeridesEntertainment I think that El Burro missions were originally given to Darkel but later they got replaced.
      My Theory: Also, Have you ever noticed that the mission ''Messing With The Man'' serve no big purpose in Vice City Storyline. Mitch Baker just advices Tommy to kill everyone in Vice City.
      Messing With The Man mission objective is to fill chaos meter by killing npc's in limited amount of time, that's the same thing which Darkel wanted from Claude in GTA 3 if he would've added in GTA 3.

    • @TheBlockerNator
      @TheBlockerNator 2 года назад +5

      It could've been a pager message like the payphone bosses. Or an easter egg, like Marty Chonks.

    • @AonGamerChannel
      @AonGamerChannel 2 года назад +4

      @@TheBlockerNator In the final version, Marty Chonks Mission Location is not visible on the GTA 3 Map and this thing was not explained by Rockstar Games in their Q@A in 2011 in regards to GTA 3 10th Anniversary.

    • @Zmeeed01
      @Zmeeed01 2 года назад +3

      Now I wonder, what purpose do El Burro, King Courtney, Kenji's missions and D-Ice even serve in the final plot? Do they exist because Rockstar couldn't implement all of their ideas into the main storyline so they created optional characters who would give you missions based on these ideas so that they don't go to waste?

  • @mrs-chief
    @mrs-chief 2 года назад +103

    I'mma say this as lovingly as I can, as a game developer on a big, famous FPS series with many controversial moments, the audience needs to stop reaching so much for these things. He's just a cut character. It happens 10000000000 times a day. It isn't a dark conspiracy, it isn't "haunted", or etc. It's just cut content.

    • @engihere5434
      @engihere5434 2 года назад +5

      Lol we know

    • @shastealyomeal
      @shastealyomeal 2 года назад +8

      Can you tell us the franchise you're involved in

    • @TheKillerEmcee
      @TheKillerEmcee 2 года назад +5

      @@engihere5434 well some don't. Don't speak for everyone

    • @pyroparagon8945
      @pyroparagon8945 2 года назад +1

      What franchise?

    • @weepingblade
      @weepingblade 2 года назад +2

      @@shastealyomeal Look on their channel they have a Playlist called " Call Of Duty Music to make Call Of Duty to." Yup totally a battlefield dev (jk)

  • @SeanStrife
    @SeanStrife Год назад +13

    I have a very vivid memory of playing the game as a kid and bumping into the vagrants and... sure enough, I heard a line from one of them referencing Darkel. So yeah, I'm pretty sure we can confirm they were going to be Darkel's gang before Darkel got cut.

  • @EmmettXIV
    @EmmettXIV Год назад +6

    Darkel's character lives on through all the payphone missions and rampages. Marty Chonks, El Burro, King Courtney, and D-Ice. These missions were more disturbing than the main story missions. Kingdom Come by King Courtney is a really messed up mission. The spanked up suicidal madmen want you dead and keep coming out of those vans. It could be difficult if you don't know what you're doing. Marty Chonks and his meat factory was creepy too.

  • @averykevin47
    @averykevin47 2 года назад +10

    They're actually were a couple reasons as to why the release date was pushed back for GTA III back in 2001 and it did have a lot to do with the 9/11 terrorist attacks. For one they had the change the color of the police cars because at the time they resembled how the NYPD please cars looked. And for that Rockstar has claimed that day did change the color of them from Blue to Black in the game to where they didn't resemble the NYPD police cars. Also GTA III was the very first Grand theft Auto game to feature planes taking off and landing and so they had to change up the flight patterns for the planes to make it look like they couldn't fly anywhere near the tall buildings. Also allegedly there were two skyscrapers in the games that did resemble the twin towers but I don't know how true that is but apparently they were removed after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Now as it pertains to school buses to my knowledge the only time the school buses appeared in the Grand theft Auto series we're only in the very first game and then Rockstar has claimed that the reason why school buses were removed because they didn't like the idea of putting children in danger. And so for that the only time you really do see school buses in any GTA game are in junkyard portions where they're non-accessible and unusable for that matter. And police officers some of them originally had mustaches, the American release of Grand theft Auto III the box art cover had a different design and the reason why it was changed was because they deemed it as two graphic. And apparently originally players were given the option to actually blow up airplanes with a rocket launcher and that was another thing that was removed from the game because of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. And also as it pertains to the kill frenzy rampage missions you can still earn points even if you shoot pedestrians instead of gang members. I think that was a bug that was left in the game that Rockstar never fixed.

    • @BangEmUp1994
      @BangEmUp1994 Год назад +4

      I would love to see this game in original form and Uncut Collector's edition for all 4 games gta 1-4

  • @allan-ls9zo
    @allan-ls9zo 2 года назад +22

    man i love manhunt's ost, can't wait for more rockstar videos from you bro

  • @oodie6284
    @oodie6284 2 года назад +7

    I haven't heard about Darkel since SomeOrdinaryGamers first brought it up. What a blast from the past.

  • @williambertels8257
    @williambertels8257 2 года назад +16

    Bro I just discovered your content I love it

  • @miaellenbecker
    @miaellenbecker 2 года назад +1

    darkel kind of looks like the hobos found in the alleyways in bully

  • @christopher.saint.christopher
    @christopher.saint.christopher 2 года назад +6

    I played GTA 3 when it came out waaaay back when, but I don't think I'd ever heard of Darkel until within the past year. I think the little snippets of info we have are fascinating in their many possible implications.

  • @rlds654
    @rlds654 2 года назад +16

    Grand Theft Auto III was my first GTA game. And after all this years it is still my favorite GTA. It always feels so dark, melancholic, creepy and I would even say mythical. It differs from other games in the series. And I believe it absolutely still has some unsolved secrets that, one day, will be found.
    I'm so glad that there are people who still make a content about GTA III and I always love to see it.

    • @memetarion6191
      @memetarion6191 2 года назад

      Other than dipping your toes in two inches of water would start killing you

    • @TheDaeFluent
      @TheDaeFluent 2 года назад +2

      GTA 4 was the darkest/creepiest to me

    • @Ethan-ee8rv
      @Ethan-ee8rv 2 года назад +3

      @@TheDaeFluent Oh yeah, remember that Easter egg where you could go into an abandoned apartment and find a bloody pillow with a bullet hole and rap music playing in the background? Creeped me out as a kid

  • @saltsalted1528
    @saltsalted1528 2 года назад +37

    My mans really put "scary" music and a deep voice for a video of GTA character that isn't even disturbing this shit is funny as hell.

  • @sandorbence2067
    @sandorbence2067 8 месяцев назад +2

    I miss the dark, creepy side of early GTAs, elements that would fit more inot Manhunt games. Especially GTA 3 had a really unique atmosphere, you could feel that something is wrong with th whole city. And then there was the Kingdom Come mission burned into my mind wen I played it as a kid. It would be nice to see some of this in GTA VI.

  • @dylives7667
    @dylives7667 2 года назад +3

    It was fate that Rockstar removing Darkel and his gang of psychos.
    As those missions would had already added more fuel to the fire, because of the game being released in 2001.
    The government was already hellbent on taking down Rockstar. And that character alone could had put an end to the company as his missions were the very definition of domestic terrorism.

  • @DaviXRemixer
    @DaviXRemixer 2 года назад +3

    I began to watch this video with a bit of scepticism since I knew about most of the Darkel things before for years and I thought this would be just another video oversensationalising the role of that cut caracther. But you still caught my attention with that Liberty Tree article which mentions "Boomshine". Although it's a seemingly minor thing compared to the others it's in my opinion one of the most important clues that R* actually had in mind a much bigger role for those weird hobos than most people think. Though I did knew about the Liberty Tree site, it never caught my attention before that it mentions "Boomshine". You see in general gameplay the first time we hear about "Boomshine" is in Vice City released a year after III in Phil Cassidy's misssions, but there indirectly it plays a quite important role as it is revealed that Phil lost his arm due to messing with that. So even though R* always tried to downplay on Darkels original role in the game, it seems like they thought about the lore of the crazy tramps and their weird poisonous homemade cocktails early and long enough that they brought it back in one way or another in VC.

  • @cnsmooth
    @cnsmooth 2 года назад +34

    There was nothing really disturbing about this character despite the spooky music used in the video. Everything suggested his mission would be are totally in line with the GTA universe. If they though he was too disturbing then they would have also changed about 90 per cent of the game.

  • @Toxtom828
    @Toxtom828 2 года назад +1

    "Boomshine", considering they carry around molotov cocktails it's pretty funny.

  • @user5325
    @user5325 2 года назад +4

    If rockstar actually add characters like this one and missions like this in story the game would be really interesting

  • @_MaxNeon_
    @_MaxNeon_ Год назад +4

    Even if Claude sticks to killing bad guys, he's still evil. Doing missions to kill random innocent civilians would make it worse.

  • @MsDboyy
    @MsDboyy 2 года назад +9

    Oh shit you made this video sooner than I thought you would lol 😅💯

  • @jasonhansen8035
    @jasonhansen8035 2 года назад +3

    but i mean a crazy a hobo that control a gang of other hobos do sound kinda cool

  • @dingusbingus3558
    @dingusbingus3558 2 года назад +10

    darkel sounds like the name of an evil clone of urkel

  • @latewizard301
    @latewizard301 2 года назад +6

    I've been looking forward to this.

  • @conversationtosaurusrex
    @conversationtosaurusrex 2 года назад +39

    Compared to some of the characters we got, he really isn't all that dark. I mean Niko Bellic told a story of how he witnessed 50 children, all sitting neatly in a row, against a church wall, each with their throats cut and their hands chopped off. That by itself, makes Niko's backstory one of, if not thee darkest GTA Character backstory. Don't get me started on Eddie Low from GTA IV who was a sadistic serial killer who had no remorse for his actions. Or even Trevor Philips from GTA V.
    Thats the thing about Trevor, people don't realize how much of a horrible person Trevor is in the game. It is stated he would mutilate bodies, rape people, even kidnap them and give them off to a bunch of cannibals; shown to have manipulated Ron and Wade in order to make them entirely dependent on Trevor. Honestly its like Rockstar grabbed the worst qualities of all the GTA Protagonists and Antagonists and put them all together into Trevor.

    • @gvd72
      @gvd72 2 года назад +1

      You never see those things though. In this game you (supposedly) would’ve performed those actions yourself.
      Imagine if there were missions where you killed children as Niko in the way he witnessed or if you played Trevor and raped someone. It’s bad taste.

    • @BioshockDrill
      @BioshockDrill 2 года назад +1

      @@gvd72 good way to put it.

    • @Mraggourakigames
      @Mraggourakigames 10 месяцев назад +3

      When was it ever stated that Trevor rapes people? The altruistic cult missions are most likely non canon and even then they literally backstab Trevor. It pisses me off how people view Trevor as this sadistic psychopath who kills people in his spare time for the fun times. He kills people who piss him off or try to screw him over. Let me get one thing straight he ain't no psychopath, sure he is insane. However, psychopaths are people who care about nobody other than themselves. Trevor loves certain people such as Patricia Madrazo, Michael's family, Lamar, Franklin, yes he does abuse Floyd but he still cares about him, he cares enough about Ron and Wade (Correct me if I'm wrong but Ron does mention that his married life was an absolute joke), he even bonds with Michael even after what he did to him and Brad. So if anything he's more of a sociopath who doesn't give a shit about the rules. To sum up, Trevor may push you around but he's definitely not going to betray you. He will only kill you if you try to screw him over or if you piss him off such as calling him a motherfucker or making fun of his Canadian accent.

    • @AsymmetricalCrimes
      @AsymmetricalCrimes 9 месяцев назад +1

      There's a difference between a dark backstory and actually doing those actions yourself.

  • @werlder
    @werlder 2 года назад +18

    7:06 “all of these alleged missions were fabricated” and yet here’s my 12 minute speculation implying otherwise.

  • @miguelpasamano4995
    @miguelpasamano4995 Год назад +2

    RockStar's denials of the deletions of certain missions should be taken with a grain of salt specially after they were caught lying about never intending for Claude to talk.

  • @James.chalmers
    @James.chalmers Год назад +6

    Rockstars excuse is clearly fake, not as good or interesting as the rest of the game? The characters in this game are all pretty lame except for Salvatore, Catalina and Donald love, darkole would have been a good character in the game, also 9/11 definitely changed the game that’s why the love disappearance mission is in the game and you can’t fly the dodo probably

  • @MarshallMathersthe7th
    @MarshallMathersthe7th Год назад +2

    I like to imagine that atleast some of the Darkel missions where changed into what we now know as rampages in the game.

  • @Pure-ck9vk
    @Pure-ck9vk 2 года назад +1

    Darkel looks like the guy in a dark alley who is trying to sell watches that he hides in his jacket

  • @Desu.mp3
    @Desu.mp3 2 года назад +2

    I instantly liked the video when I heard the manhunt music. Very good video!

  • @pugachevskobra5636
    @pugachevskobra5636 2 года назад +14

    I have never played GTA III ever but it’s kinda funny how the newspaper article on the tramps in Liberty City ties in so well with the urban legend of Darkel. In the urban legend the character of Darkel is accused of orchestrating insane levels of violence and terrorism, so much so that Rockstar was forced to cut his character completely from the release version and all associated missions were removed as well. This is nearly word for word the picture the newspaper tries to paint of the homeless in Liberty City; violent murderous maniacs who can’t be reasoned with whatsoever. But reality tells us that this urban legend is a massive hoax mostly; completely imaginary and at odds with the actual character of Darkel, and the same goes for the homeless people who inhabit Liberty City. A ton of sensationalism and nothingness concocted by a headline grabbing clout chasing newspaper; aka the same exact phenomenon behind the legend of Darkel.

    • @pugachevskobra5636
      @pugachevskobra5636 2 года назад +3

      Sorry for the paragraph; I just found this really cool. Rockstar didn’t get enough credit for their world building and story development for their first few titles unlike the next gen releases of RDR1, RDR2, GTA IV and V. So now I’m forced to fork over more money for Liberty City and San Andreas, which I’ve also never played much at all. Even though I had swore off funding their murder of RDR2 and RDO…. 😂

  • @iennefaLsh
    @iennefaLsh 2 года назад +3

    That thumbnail makes him look rather funny, if anything.

  • @Journey_to_who_knows
    @Journey_to_who_knows 10 месяцев назад +2

    This character has been so mythologised over 20 years that without some dedicated research it’s almost impossible to figure out what trivia about this character on the internet is true aside from that he existed. It’s like a modern Pythagoras.

  • @OrigenalDarkMew
    @OrigenalDarkMew 2 года назад +15

    I remember learning about this, imagine the negative press GTA would get today for doing something like this. Honestly i wouldn't care, they thrive off of controversy

  • @NhBleker
    @NhBleker 2 года назад +3

    I wonder if Darkle was the true mastermind behind 'No Russian'

  • @Anonymous-73
    @Anonymous-73 2 года назад +3

    Honestly, if Darkel wasn’t cut everyone would just kill him anyway

  • @nullbyt
    @nullbyt 2 года назад +5

    Long awaited :)

  • @Swordslinger-hb1ns
    @Swordslinger-hb1ns 10 месяцев назад +2

    No doubt the horrific events of September 11, 2001 played a critical role in Darkel getting cut completely considering the mission he gives Claude involve evil terrorism including bombing Francis International Airport. Though it’s interesting to think what could have been in the game if 9/11 never happened……

  • @davidtodic9946
    @davidtodic9946 2 года назад +2

    1 were there suppose to be children characters in the game and 2. In Red dead Redemption 2 there is a blind guy with a walking stik and when you give him a coin He will tell you somthing about the future.

  • @buff9267
    @buff9267 2 года назад +1

    You know a video is serious when it has a vhs filter

  • @braekvitravn7511
    @braekvitravn7511 2 года назад +1

    I really don't see how creepy it is

  • @yima3628
    @yima3628 2 года назад +2

    No wonder why there were 4 bums in a tunnel holding molotovs, I thought they were helding a "drunk ritual" holding beer bottles until I ran over them, it was molotov and not beers.

  • @Marinerthekod
    @Marinerthekod 2 года назад +5

    Santa has changed.

  • @masterseal0418
    @masterseal0418 2 года назад +6

    There's still more scrapped gaming content to discuss in separate videos, so keep at it!

  • @leoorduna2199
    @leoorduna2199 10 месяцев назад +1

    With times changing in all, I think it's safe to reintroduce Darkel into the next GTA game set before or after Part 6.

  • @EuanWhitehead
    @EuanWhitehead 2 года назад +5

    When you realise there are people irl who are worse than this supposed character.

  • @johnpatrickadem6294
    @johnpatrickadem6294 2 года назад +5

    if darkel is the most "disturbing" character, then blowing up a dozen people with a bazooka doesn't look that bad _[killing them that way causes dismemberment of body parts]_
    also in fastman92 limit adjuster for san andreas at line 492 _(might be wrong),_ there's a mention of "darkel" there, like *'CDarkel::RegisteredKills'* found at it's ini file

  • @commanderblack5045
    @commanderblack5045 4 месяца назад +1

    Darkel looks like a giant Garden gnome 😂

  • @nenedubs1723
    @nenedubs1723 2 года назад +1

    Darkel sounds like the name of the guy niko was looking for

  • @TordaiJenoArthurJenci
    @TordaiJenoArthurJenci Год назад +2

    the tramps are darkels gang the 4 tramps with molotovs in the tunnel which is his hideout

  • @attackofthecopyrightbots
    @attackofthecopyrightbots Год назад +1

    says a lot that everyone thought it was just "kill kids"

  • @Weekendwavves
    @Weekendwavves 2 года назад +4

    I disagree. The most disturbing character in GTA was Donald Love. Those morgue parties, his cannibalism, and how many people his properly development plans killed in Fort Stauton that made him a billion are way more disturbing than a fake rumor mission Rockstar debunked a few years ago.

  • @TimSlee1
    @TimSlee1 2 года назад +2

    People often forget about the disturbing un-cut characters who demand you provide them with money for snuff films. Hell, you even work for serial killers and mass murderering cannibals. Donald Love has to be the most extreme example I can find.

  • @EViLGrEEn42090
    @EViLGrEEn42090 10 месяцев назад +1

    Lol The pedestrian running around saying... My mothers my sister. lmao I'll never forget it on GTA3.

  • @aaronomahony
    @aaronomahony 10 месяцев назад +1

    They should have left him in, he was more on par with the psychopaths you'd come across in Max Payne 1.

  • @CollectorReaper
    @CollectorReaper 8 месяцев назад +3

    i mean his name is Dark-el

  • @nikobello101
    @nikobello101 2 года назад +1

    I love this video there's nothing else on RUclips right now that has a cool feel to it keep making more vids like this man

    • @jaycuthbert245
      @jaycuthbert245 2 года назад +1

      It's all bollocks and overreacting and far fetched speculation. Not cool at all. It's like me uploading a video and speculating about something that wasn't real. Or me making up some bulls##t story to keep you entertained. Don't believe what everyone tells You, dude

    • @nikobello101
      @nikobello101 2 года назад

      @@jaycuthbert245 bruh there's multiple videos plus darkal is on the GTA wiki wat r u being so superstitious about
      Besides darkal isn't the only scary npc GTASA has a couple of scary guys on there too

  • @narczilla
    @narczilla 2 года назад +1

    Number 15: Burger King Foot Lettuce. The last thing you'd want in your Burger King burger is someone's foot fungus. But as it turns out, that might be what you get.

  • @dankcaillou
    @dankcaillou 2 года назад +3

    Another good video source

  • @yima3628
    @yima3628 2 года назад +2

    Love your narration man ❤👍

  • @VazPlayz
    @VazPlayz 2 года назад +1

    4:22 , now it makes sense because there was a misson "loves disappearance" (which donald love disappears) which shows a box and then gives us 45,000$.

    • @Endgame707
      @Endgame707 2 года назад +1

      Darkel is Portuguese 🇵🇹

  • @terrorsquadlith
    @terrorsquadlith 9 месяцев назад +2

    lol, oh nooo not the random civilians .. As if all players dont just drive over them when regularly playing the game

  • @AonGamerChannel
    @AonGamerChannel 2 года назад +7

    Darkel = Dark Hell

  • @amaruqlonewolf3350
    @amaruqlonewolf3350 2 года назад +5

    I've honestly never understood on why Darkel was ever made such a big deal out of, both by the media articles covering it at the time of the development, the fans, and Rockstar themselves. I mean, this is the same series where you're tasked to butcher a person because your mother thinks he's better than you, try to kill a helpless man tied in a plaster cast, murder a entire construction firm and bury their foreman under the cement alive because they just dissed your sister, etc.
    Darkel's missions, even those which the fans have theorized are actually 'less' darker than what the series actually has. Because I don't know, butchering someone and then selling him as meat at his own deli is far more darker than ramming a plane into a building.

    • @malletUsergaming
      @malletUsergaming Год назад

      FYI that "helpless man" in a plaster cast was a scumbag plus you have no choice

  • @catcrimes80
    @catcrimes80 2 года назад +2

    He looks like a Legend of Zelda Ocarina of time character