*Eastern European Chris Pratt unboxing Russian military shell from nuclear warhead - 1944 (colorized, decolorized then colorized again for dramatic effect)*
I really liked the concept of this case. It could have been so good....but the Cooler Master did what they usually do - have a great idea and implement it poorly. Anyway, if you want a compact ATX case (and can't afford the Cerberus), do yourself a favor and get the Raijintek Thetis. It's even smaller (only 27L in volume), better built, prettier and has better cooling. Or a Silverstone Grandia if you prefer the horizontal type of case for something like a TV rack...
Also Deepcool Gamerstorm Baronkase Liquid is good(tho more expensive) alternative, but it comes with 120mm AIO included and RGB, so if you wanted AIO in the first place it's not a bad buy, exaust fan is terrible, just buy 3 pack rgb fans, 2 at bootom, 1 as exaust and keep the AIO as exaust up top
When I first look at this case, I immediately fall in love with it. But after I saw this video, I'm quiet dissapointed with it. We need more ATX case in MATX form factor
@@sayantanchatterjee3626 It did age well ty. The hockey team that he uses his logo from are not exactly well known. There is a reason, 1. They suck. 2. Nobody knows wtf they are looking at lol.
the most underated case of all time in youtube. there is no such case that can fit a full ATX motherboard in a mini itx case. i even fit a 280mm radiator and 2pcs 14cm fan at the top (depend on the motherboard alluminum heatsink can hinder the radiator, if ever just remove the heatsink). this can even fit a 14cm fan in any position except at the exhaust. the downside is just the acrylic panel. no more no less. YOU DID NOT EVEN INSTALLED 1 fan bellow the PSU and 2 FAN at the BOTTOM. complete the fan slot before you dictate and put a 14cm. and your PSU is wrongly positioned, if it can fit at the bottom side then put it there if it cant hinder the gpu. then put a 14cm fan above the psu so it can directly intake the cpu fan directly.
@@grenadeout562 i grabbed mine from amazon and its quite cool except the fact i had to take out big components when i wanted to swap anything even fans
I just built a gaming system with this case, it is amazing. Temps are great as well, I threw in 2 Deepcool RF120M fans at the top, one at the rear, 1 at the front, and 1 as a cpu cooler fan. System never gets higher than 30 degrees celcius. CPU at full load running Prime 95 hovers around 73 degrees celcius, but this is normal, I was running a 7600k. Did you stress test using 2.66 version of Prime 95? It works much better for the 7600k,7700k, 8600k and 8700k.
I bought this case for my cousin and I kinda like it. He had an matx pre-built and this is smaller than that case although it fits atx. The front mounted psu was an interesting concept as well. Gonna have to go back and bring him another fan and replace his stock heat sink but overall I'm happy with how light and small it is, and it's a simple design so it looks nice sitting in the corner of the desk. I think 40 or 50 usd would be a more appropriate price point though.
Well I've just transplanted my ryzen 7 and 5700xt system into the q500l from a Fractal Design r2 (one of the best older model cases around) I was filled with dread at the expected result but after purchasing a new entertainment unit for the lounge it was pretty much a necessity to fit in there. Case is placed horizontal, I've dropped a 120mm intake to the left of the GPU, a 140mm I take to the right of the cpu and kept the stock exhaust fan. Ryzen 1700 with a silentiumpc fortis 3 cooler - max temp under prime with avx - 52c Powerxolor Red Dragon 5700xt running oc bios - 62c maximum under furmark Running both simultaneously pushes another 2c or so on each. I'm not seeing a single issue cooling wise with this case if intake fans are added, it's on a par with my old R2 on temps. Its noisier and build quality isn't amazing , they're about the only negatives in opinion. Also drive wise I've managed 2 fit 2 x 4tb hdd, a 3tb hard drive, and a 1tb ssd (aswell as my nvme drive) All those hole perforations that the entire case is made of means you can adapt it to fit way more drives than it was designed to do originally.
I have the Q300L, and I actually quite like it considering the cost, though I got it for a secondary computer which doesn't create much heat in the first place. The modularity of the design is quite nice. I don't know how much worse the cooling is in the Q500L, but some fairly simple modifications would probably get it to work decently, as Dmitry suggested. It could still be a good value for someone who has a full ATX motherboard, though I'd recommend not bothering with a full ATX board anyway. You'd be much better off going with an mATX board, which will fit fine in the better design of the original Q300L.
I've had the q300l before. Only a basic setup, think i had 2x fans front, 1 x top 1x 120mm aio top and rear exhaust fan and never saw above 64c which i think is ok.
but the power supply would still block the front intake... make the rear fan an intake and top as exhaust might improve temps.. or top as intakes and rear as exhausts, the front almost serves no purpose helping out with temps...
I wish more cases would support horizontal mounting. Heavy air coolers and large video cards can put a lot of pressure on your motherboard, horizontal mounting solves a lot of problems with air cooling.
All this needs is 2 intake fans. One at the top and one at the bottom to feed the cpu and gpu. Then, 1 back exhaust fan + PSU exhaust in the front. With that set-up, I think this case would be jelly.
It's very interesting to see how they've redesigned this. I have the Q300L and I'm pretty happy with it. Temps are much better but only mATX motherboard. One downside for me is even with the extra space you can still only have one 3.5" HDD even though it seems like it should fit two. Lighting also doesn't look great because of the dust filter but mine is a minimalist black grey build.
@@DocteurMolotov Mine's probably the quietest it's ever been, magnetic levitation fans help, but I'm sure a full enclosure would be even better. Idle is 31 on my stock Ryzen 2600 which I think is fine.
I just built my new computer with the older q300l case. I drilled more holes and used better fans, and the cooling was a lot better. They should originally have made more perforations and it would be a lot better of a case. I used mine just because it fit on my desk better than any other case. Other wise I would never have spent time drilling all those holes! 😂
Wouldn't this case make more sense given its $60 price point to house a more budget oriented system rather than throwing in an air cooled overclocked and notoriously hot running i7 and 1080?
Yes it would make more sense but in terms of testing thermals consistently, no. He uses the same cpu cooler, noctua fans and gtx 1080 for each test to keep it consistent in testing and testing out the limits of the case. There are plenty of cases around this price point that do way better in terms of cooling than this, like the NZXT H500
@@RymeofDawn However, this is a $60 case and in terms of real world performance and practicality for actual builds this video misses the mark. Its like getting upset that the Porsche engine you frankensteined into a Nissan Altima runs poorly
@@ktxdgqtx That doesn't make sense since a similar testing method is done with any good case review. Just look at Gamers Nexus review on this case. It was hotter than the Walmart Gaming PC which is saying something. The same components are being used is ever one of those cases and there are plenty of cases in that price point that do way better. If every case review was based on what configuartion would be optimal for it, then every case would have good thermals which would be pointless. Also, about the car engine analogy; that is also wrong since you can put a 1000hp engine into an old car and still be fine. That's why they are called sleepers.
@@RymeofDawn Youre missing the point of my comments. Yes, for benchmarking purposes you are correct and everything should be uniform. But for people considering purchasing this case, overheating it with these high end components that are mismatched to what you would actually build in this is pointless and of no help to anyone.
@@ktxdgqtx Well then just understand that the components you should fit with this case like a mid tier ryzen or intel cpu and a mid-low tier amd or nvidia graphics card would do fine thermally and should not be worried over.
I'm considering this case still because I will be putting my budget Ryzen components in it and I don't believe I will have overheating issues. At least this tells me that high end components will not work in this system well without upgrading the fans.
Poor cooling AND an acrylic window. I'd accept one but not both. If you're determined to stay at this price range, consider cases like the Kolink Stronghold or the CoolerMaster MasterBox Lite 3.1 or the Fractal Design Focus G.
I have the same case, with 5 case fans (Arctic F12) and my 2200g is 70 C° Max when playing for 3+ hours, but I never thought of it, is the airflow really that bad? :(
Hey there. My temps are not bad on Q300l..but i will cut 2x 140mm halls at the front + ordered Silverstone dust filters. Temps should drop 5-10C... @@Mizra-dq3lj
Yes! I don't really understand why but when I would put my hand inside the case I don't feel a lot of air coming in, but infront of the case I would feel a bit of air going out on the edge of the fans, so some kind of air circle was being formed. Try taking out all the fans and leave only the exhaust, I suspect your temps will go down because that's how I was running for the first week and the temps were ok (I also have a 2200g). After getting the two front 140mm the temps started getting crazy, I could go to 65-68 while gaming. On the Ophion I can get to 60 after one hour of AC Origins, but usually it's in the mid 50s. On the Q300L I used an Arctic Freezer 33 for a while and it was much better, but still I'm not going back to the Q300L, the Ophion is half the size, and when my Big Shuriken 3 arrives the temps will probably drop like 20C lol
I know this thing isn't the best in airflow because all those vent holes are too small to flow air well. Still I like the size for a full ATX build. I'd be willing to drill out the holes larger in the area of my fans, add my own taller feet, and maybe even use an SFX PSU. If your willing to mod, and I am, this could be an interesting case. It inexpensive enough that I don't mid experimenting and modding. You could easily down size your current ATX build with just a little effort. A compact ATX build would be cool and that compactness (especially for ATX) is very appealing to me.
@Matthew Rodbourn the appeal here is a compact size in a ATX case. The H400 is a m-ATX case only, no? Also there something I like about the look of this case.
It's an interesting layout, the size looks to be about the same as my Enthoo Evolv ITX case but obviously this fits ATX mobos, but it doesn't look anywhere near as classy and kind of cheap.
My mini ITX case is roughly the same size. On the plus side it doesn't cook the case internals, takes more drives of any format than you have SATA ports on an mITX board AND has an additional hot swap bay, and it has absolutely no GPU clearance issues (takes a 14" card effortlessly). That being said I feel like the volume of the Q500L is criminally underutilized and still comes with a lot of compromises. It's still too large and has nothing to show for it.
I have the Q300l for a year now with 4×140mm + 120mm fans inside and the temperatures are amazing! 27-30°C on idle and on full load 65°C is the worst case scenario! The only bummer is the noise levels because of the case being practically open since it has holes everywhere, but for a 35€ case ist's pretty decent considering the compact size!
since most people have their cases next to them I am really curious if moving the power supply from the back to the front makes a noticeable audible difference
We have similar hopes/expectations form the CPU case manufacturers. What do you think about the fact that CPU cases don't have any way to accommodate IO from all Motherboard headers. Instead they usually have a few old ports. This is so outrageous to me. I wish there was a standard op panel on all cases (visible or hidden) and that its "front IO plate" would come with the motherboard, as well as all the header extension cables to mount into the IO panel. Still waiting for these huge problems to be addressed. Nice video btw. Have a nice day :)
I own the previous iteration of this case : it is a great value for a micro ATX system, with the power supply at the bottom. Mine hase a very good airflow, but yeah, it has no sound proofing.
This case along with the Q300L are cheap enough to where no one should feel bad about modifying the case for better performance. GN did a mod by drilling up the holes, which seems to have confused everyone. Just cut a freaking hole (or square) where your fans will be mounted! It does not "compromise structural integrity" enough to matter. I have six 4.5" holes cut in my Q300L, yeah it's fine.
Wooooooww.....that's really weird. The PSU has to be mounted to the inside of the front of the case? Why? The MasterBox Q300L MicroATX case has the PSU able to be mounted on the bottom of the case, which is normal at least from what I have seen. So you can install 2 intake fans in the Q300L case but not the Q500L case. Very strange if I'm getting that right.
I have 2 PCs in the house that use the Q300L. I love these cases. What value do you get for using ATX vs mATX these days? I'm tired of large ATX cases.
I imagine someone put a lot of work into that dust filter, and was excited to see this video, and the first thing Dimitri says is it doesn't look that good
Attention, this case is only suitable for people who are not too lazy to think. Attention, this case is only suitable for people who are not too lazy to think. Attention, this case is only suitable for people who are not too lazy to think.
Dunno but Cooler Master haven't released this case in many places, and they are really getting it checked by reviewers for feedback. They might actually improvise sometimes soon. Cause no Case maker would have balls to send it for so many reviewers after failing from the first one.
I have a question about this case : Let's say you don't use bottom PCIE slots on you motherboard, and don't plug anything in the bottom end of it, is it possible to relocate the PSU bracket to the bottom of the case?
Looks like a 120mm CPU cooler with the RAD mounted in the rear exhaust position and a blower style GPU would work best for this case. That way all heat is exhausted straight out of the case.
If top fans could be added to the outside with added cowlings to make them visually cool, then we could use the extra space inside as an option. K&N look nice
The case is cool. I have the q300l. The reason why his case is so hot is because he didnt give a fuck and just installed 1 fan in there. I have 3 fans. One in Front for intake. And 2 around cpu cooler for outtake. My cpu cooler is massive aswell. So i dont really have cooling issues
Can the PSU also be mounted at the normal spot (with some fiddling)? I´m thinking that if you´d use a smaller board, a liquid CPU cooler with a 240mm radiator at the top (out) and two 140mm fans at the front (in) you would get better thermals.
I got the Q300L because I liked the size and price (€40 microATX), however my 980ti is getting choked so during intense gaming I remove the side panel and my gpu temp drops 10C.. This case is not made for higher power usage hardware!
65 degrees under load is good result - why all YT-ers and "enthusiasts" think their PC will run 100% load all the time lol. This case is perfectly fine
A good fix would be to use a SFX PSU with a 140mm intake fan and swap out the rear ran for something better. That would be my plan :) All things considered looks like a nice case.
I took out the preinstalled fan from this case, and used the silverstone he02 heatsink. I got this case because it has a dust filter on the top to prevent dust from falling in.
Sean Wilson And how it’s been the temperature situation in your case since then? I really would like to get this case maybe it’s just a matter of adding the proper fans to keep it nice and warm and not hot
I have a q300l and picked it because of its weight. And yes I realize that's a bad qualifier but I had a specific place I wanted to put it. the best setup I could do is two 140mm static pressure fans in front and two 120mm exhaust fans (throw away the stock one) on back and top back. I didn't bother putting an exhaust on the bottom because my power supply is stupid big and the short legs. The gpu doesn't seem to get unreasonably hot like the cpu though The top one is a result of a weird hotspot on the top of the case so I'm hoping the exhaust helps the heat escape quicker so it doesn't become a problem Everything considered I still ended up undervolting my CPU so it doesn't go above 80 and make all my fans ramp up extremely quickly.
This is also my first ryzen so I'm not completely dismissing the possibility the motherboard drivers are causing this somehow but I only got real results after disabling the boost clock (something something overdrive) and going into ryzen master and undervolting. The processor is a 3600 and is more than what I need but definitely a bummer that it won't see it's full potential without becoming unbearably noisy
Looks like they tried to make a bigger q300l, but did it wrong. The lil buddy (which i have) is amazing, mesh looks clean and doesn't scream gamer as this one. Psu is located on the bottom and you have 5 total spots for fans ( 2 top ,2 front ,1 bottom close to the psu) and 1 good exaust fan.
I think if this case had taller feet and a better dust filter on the bottom it would allow for bottom intake and top exhaust. Two intake fans on the bottom and two exhaust fans on top. Maybe even rotating the cpu cooler 90 degrees to vent towards the top of the case might get better results. I like the compact size and overall look of the case. I think it has a lot of potential with a few small changes.
I don't have any issue with cooling in this case... I have an R9 390 in it, and it sits behind a TV. Fan set up is just some left over bitfenix fans I had: 2 fans out, rear and top rear, 2 intake fans both front. No fan on front top because then you are just blowing out the fresh air you just pulled into the case. before it gets to anything. Tower cooler is a cheap Akasa Stormforce thing I got off ebay, the fan is set to pull through the back of the cooler because there was not enough ram clearance. CPU is a Skylake i5 6600k - stays below body temp on idle, never goes above 50c Graphics is MSI R9 390 Idles at 50 - 65c no matter what I do in all cases I put it in, I think its just how it is. I just don't understand the "Bad Thermal Performance" shite people keep labeling this case and the Q300L with. Also why do you only have 1 fan pulling air out while complaining the thermals are bad. I agree on the bottom dust filter though, I yanked it off mine and bought an extra of the magnetic ones. my case lies flat so I don't need the feet.
I've been a year with the 300L version and it's not good. The motherboard position limits the space on the top so it was difficult for me to fit a 120 mm fan. Also the one included doesn't do much. The filters got wrinkled just by taking them off a couple of times to clean the dust. And the holes make anny rgb look terrible. It looks really ugly without the filters The acrilic panel is more scratched than my old blackberry to the poin of making the inside of the case look blurry The bottom dust filter is really fragile and every time I take off the plastic caps, it breaks a bit more
Hi can you compare this to the older q300l regarding temprature & cooling performance ? ... I am asking because there are some good deals about the q300L atm
And what about installing 2x140mm from the bottom side, 2 of them on the top side and 1 on the front. I guess, temperatures will be lower. Also you can turn CPU cooler to suck air from bottom to the top and try it. Idk exactly, but it can make the situation better.
I'm going to do that because right now I'm getting atrocious temps. I have some extra fans from an old case so I put 2 120mm fans in the bottom and the one that came stock bottom right. I have a 120mm radiator for my GPU and i'm about to receive a 240mm radiator for my CPU. I really hope it helps cause if it doesn't i'm down 60 bucks for this POS
I thought about using the q300l for a pc my brother is going to build, but i allready saw on gamers nexus an your yt channel, that can get very hot... Should i use the q300l for the matx build? 🤔
What if...hear me out, you rotated the CPU cooloer to blow exhaust air out the top of the cast. Then, install fans on the bottom of the case. Then use the exhaust as an intake. Furthermore, use an sfx power supply that faces outwards for it's own air source. After, install a 120mm or 92 mm fan as intake below the sfx PSU. Finally, rotate the whole case onto its side with the "glass" facing up.This configuration would then have four intake fans, forcing air out the top (ake the right side when laying flat), with the CPU cooler assisting with exhaust.
I see your point, yeah the thermals aren't great. But it might not be such a big deal if you're doing a more budget build with lower tdp parts. You know, because the case is kind of in that price point.
@@TheSickness It's bad, but somebody's gonna buy it. I'd prefer if they did so knowing half of a justification instead of just being an ignorant twathead.
nickolas474 a „justification“ for buying 💩, yup that sounds like full on twathead. So they released a max tdp rating for the case? 🤷♂️ They call themselves „Cooler Master“ that is false advertising, because twatheads will fall for that...
looks like a cheap moders case to me! replace feet and cut out front, bottom, and top grills for more airflow. add bracing where the fans mount and you'd have to replace plex with glass. great project case for the cheap! :)
It would make far more sense to have a top mounted aio with two intakes mounted in the bottom of the case. Move the psu down and have a front intake at the top.
*Eastern European Chris Pratt unboxing Russian military shell from nuclear warhead - 1944 (colorized, decolorized then colorized again for dramatic effect)*
''exploding'' Russian military shell from ''Live'' nuclear warhead
Lol
Cooler Master is a typo, it should read Cooker Master.
Yeah, a finger accidentally slipped to the L key. :D
*when Cooler Master isn't such a 'master' in cooling*
lol
Good one.
Cooler Master is very good in cooling... look at the H500. XD
Sad thing is when they started they were masters. Their HAF series was great. Then they decided to follow current trends.
Not in cooling , in design is not master. It's not the first time they fuck up a good PC case.
I really liked the concept of this case. It could have been so good....but the Cooler Master did what they usually do - have a great idea and implement it poorly.
Anyway, if you want a compact ATX case (and can't afford the Cerberus), do yourself a favor and get the Raijintek Thetis. It's even smaller (only 27L in volume), better built, prettier and has better cooling. Or a Silverstone Grandia if you prefer the horizontal type of case for something like a TV rack...
Also Deepcool Gamerstorm Baronkase Liquid is good(tho more expensive) alternative, but it comes with 120mm AIO included and RGB, so if you wanted AIO in the first place it's not a bad buy, exaust fan is terrible, just buy 3 pack rgb fans, 2 at bootom, 1 as exaust and keep the AIO as exaust up top
Holy crap thank you for this. I've been looking for a case just like this.
Raijintek seems to get NO coverage whatsoever for some reason
@@ChrisPBacon9 Maybe because they are OOS everywhere! Been looking for a Thetis in North America for a month with no luck.
When I first look at this case, I immediately fall in love with it. But after I saw this video, I'm quiet dissapointed with it. We need more ATX case in MATX form factor
That's why GN is doing a "little mod" to this case.
@@ianm1403 I saw him on twitter making those holes bigger
You know the drill.
You need a simple sleek version of your logo.
Anything you print a Fking beaver onto with red&white is gonna be rough I'd guess.
i like his classic icon
this comment aged well
@@sayantanchatterjee3626 It did age well ty.
The hockey team that he uses his logo from are not exactly well known.
There is a reason, 1. They suck. 2. Nobody knows wtf they are looking at lol.
He looks like quill from gaurdians of the galaxy
The name you're looking for is Chris Pratt
@@pieceofevil84 you are three years late
Dmitri advises to unbox the case from the bottom in an earlier video and then doesn't follow that himself!!😂😂😂
the most underated case of all time in youtube. there is no such case that can fit a full ATX motherboard in a mini itx case. i even fit a 280mm radiator and 2pcs 14cm fan at the top (depend on the motherboard alluminum heatsink can hinder the radiator, if ever just remove the heatsink). this can even fit a 14cm fan in any position except at the exhaust. the downside is just the acrylic panel. no more no less. YOU DID NOT EVEN INSTALLED 1 fan bellow the PSU and 2 FAN at the BOTTOM. complete the fan slot before you dictate and put a 14cm. and your PSU is wrongly positioned, if it can fit at the bottom side then put it there if it cant hinder the gpu. then put a 14cm fan above the psu so it can directly intake the cpu fan directly.
Why didn't you test it with more fans or rads?
because he's comparing same cooler as other cases. so it's balance
Just stick with the Q300L using a micro-ATX mobo , theres no point to block out the intake.
p/s. literally same dimension.
It has to be availabls in order for me to buy it
@@grenadeout562 i grabbed mine from amazon and its quite cool except the fact i had to take out big components when i wanted to swap anything even fans
@@menash8313 that's a bummer
Its still a terrible case. Horrid airflow, the front usb on my brother's failed, and the magnetic dust filters dont stick
@@ChrisPBacon9 What matx case would you recommend
Or you use it for some low power usage components? If you already have a ATX mainboard this seems the only cheap solution for a little box ?
I just built a gaming system with this case, it is amazing. Temps are great as well, I threw in 2 Deepcool RF120M fans at the top, one at the rear, 1 at the front, and 1 as a cpu cooler fan. System never gets higher than 30 degrees celcius. CPU at full load running Prime 95 hovers around 73 degrees celcius, but this is normal, I was running a 7600k. Did you stress test using 2.66 version of Prime 95? It works much better for the 7600k,7700k, 8600k and 8700k.
I bought this case for my cousin and I kinda like it. He had an matx pre-built and this is smaller than that case although it fits atx. The front mounted psu was an interesting concept as well. Gonna have to go back and bring him another fan and replace his stock heat sink but overall I'm happy with how light and small it is, and it's a simple design so it looks nice sitting in the corner of the desk. I think 40 or 50 usd would be a more appropriate price point though.
Well I've just transplanted my ryzen 7 and 5700xt system into the q500l from a Fractal Design r2 (one of the best older model cases around)
I was filled with dread at the expected result but after purchasing a new entertainment unit for the lounge it was pretty much a necessity to fit in there.
Case is placed horizontal, I've dropped a 120mm intake to the left of the GPU, a 140mm I take to the right of the cpu and kept the stock exhaust fan.
Ryzen 1700 with a silentiumpc fortis 3 cooler - max temp under prime with avx - 52c
Powerxolor Red Dragon 5700xt running oc bios - 62c maximum under furmark
Running both simultaneously pushes another 2c or so on each.
I'm not seeing a single issue cooling wise with this case if intake fans are added, it's on a par with my old R2 on temps.
Its noisier and build quality isn't amazing , they're about the only negatives in opinion.
Also drive wise I've managed 2 fit 2 x 4tb hdd, a 3tb hard drive, and a 1tb ssd (aswell as my nvme drive)
All those hole perforations that the entire case is made of means you can adapt it to fit way more drives than it was designed to do originally.
I have the Q300L, and I actually quite like it considering the cost, though I got it for a secondary computer which doesn't create much heat in the first place. The modularity of the design is quite nice. I don't know how much worse the cooling is in the Q500L, but some fairly simple modifications would probably get it to work decently, as Dmitry suggested.
It could still be a good value for someone who has a full ATX motherboard, though I'd recommend not bothering with a full ATX board anyway. You'd be much better off going with an mATX board, which will fit fine in the better design of the original Q300L.
I've had the q300l before. Only a basic setup, think i had 2x fans front, 1 x top 1x 120mm aio top and rear exhaust fan and never saw above 64c which i think is ok.
Take drill and enlarge those holes, let's see how much better it can get with a simple change of intake grill hole diameter.
Gamers Nexus is working on it, will probably be a video in a few days
Or just buy a decent case
@@greg2943 It's for science to see how just that diamater affects the performance
but the power supply would still block the front intake... make the rear fan an intake and top as exhaust might improve temps.. or top as intakes and rear as exhausts, the front almost serves no purpose helping out with temps...
Since when Chris Pratt does tech reviews?
I wish more cases would support horizontal mounting. Heavy air coolers and large video cards can put a lot of pressure on your motherboard, horizontal mounting solves a lot of problems with air cooling.
All this needs is 2 intake fans. One at the top and one at the bottom to feed the cpu and gpu. Then, 1 back exhaust fan + PSU exhaust in the front. With that set-up, I think this case would be jelly.
It's very interesting to see how they've redesigned this. I have the Q300L and I'm pretty happy with it. Temps are much better but only mATX motherboard. One downside for me is even with the extra space you can still only have one 3.5" HDD even though it seems like it should fit two.
Lighting also doesn't look great because of the dust filter but mine is a minimalist black grey build.
I hate my Q300L. Noisy AF and warm. I replaced it with Phanteks P300 and I my CPU lost 10°C at idle and 5 at full load.
@@DocteurMolotov Mine's probably the quietest it's ever been, magnetic levitation fans help, but I'm sure a full enclosure would be even better. Idle is 31 on my stock Ryzen 2600 which I think is fine.
Seems like a solid option for the price point! Also color seemed good? I'm not a specialist in that
1:08 sounded like Cantina Band.
I just built my new computer with the older q300l case. I drilled more holes and used better fans, and the cooling was a lot better. They should originally have made more perforations and it would be a lot better of a case. I used mine just because it fit on my desk better than any other case. Other wise I would never have spent time drilling all those holes! 😂
Most important part, it can be set as inverted case
Wouldn't this case make more sense given its $60 price point to house a more budget oriented system rather than throwing in an air cooled overclocked and notoriously hot running i7 and 1080?
Yes it would make more sense but in terms of testing thermals consistently, no. He uses the same cpu cooler, noctua fans and gtx 1080 for each test to keep it consistent in testing and testing out the limits of the case. There are plenty of cases around this price point that do way better in terms of cooling than this, like the NZXT H500
@@RymeofDawn However, this is a $60 case and in terms of real world performance and practicality for actual builds this video misses the mark. Its like getting upset that the Porsche engine you frankensteined into a Nissan Altima runs poorly
@@ktxdgqtx That doesn't make sense since a similar testing method is done with any good case review. Just look at Gamers Nexus review on this case. It was hotter than the Walmart Gaming PC which is saying something. The same components are being used is ever one of those cases and there are plenty of cases in that price point that do way better. If every case review was based on what configuartion would be optimal for it, then every case would have good thermals which would be pointless. Also, about the car engine analogy; that is also wrong since you can put a 1000hp engine into an old car and still be fine. That's why they are called sleepers.
@@RymeofDawn Youre missing the point of my comments. Yes, for benchmarking purposes you are correct and everything should be uniform. But for people considering purchasing this case, overheating it with these high end components that are mismatched to what you would actually build in this is pointless and of no help to anyone.
@@ktxdgqtx Well then just understand that the components you should fit with this case like a mid tier ryzen or intel cpu and a mid-low tier amd or nvidia graphics card would do fine thermally and should not be worried over.
I'm considering this case still because I will be putting my budget Ryzen components in it and I don't believe I will have overheating issues. At least this tells me that high end components will not work in this system well without upgrading the fans.
Poor cooling AND an acrylic window. I'd accept one but not both. If you're determined to stay at this price range, consider cases like the Kolink Stronghold or the CoolerMaster MasterBox Lite 3.1 or the Fractal Design Focus G.
I had a Q300L with 2, 140mm fans on the front, switched to a tiny Raijintek Ophion and my CPU temps dropped 10ºC...
I have the same case, with 5 case fans (Arctic F12) and my 2200g is 70 C° Max when playing for 3+ hours, but I never thought of it, is the airflow really that bad? :(
Hey there. My temps are not bad on Q300l..but i will cut 2x 140mm halls at the front + ordered Silverstone dust filters. Temps should drop 5-10C... @@Mizra-dq3lj
Yes! I don't really understand why but when I would put my hand inside the case I don't feel a lot of air coming in, but infront of the case I would feel a bit of air going out on the edge of the fans, so some kind of air circle was being formed. Try taking out all the fans and leave only the exhaust, I suspect your temps will go down because that's how I was running for the first week and the temps were ok (I also have a 2200g). After getting the two front 140mm the temps started getting crazy, I could go to 65-68 while gaming. On the Ophion I can get to 60 after one hour of AC Origins, but usually it's in the mid 50s. On the Q300L I used an Arctic Freezer 33 for a while and it was much better, but still I'm not going back to the Q300L, the Ophion is half the size, and when my Big Shuriken 3 arrives the temps will probably drop like 20C lol
The colors in this video is fantastic!
I know this thing isn't the best in airflow because all those vent holes are too small to flow air well. Still I like the size for a full ATX build.
I'd be willing to drill out the holes larger in the area of my fans, add my own taller feet, and maybe even use an SFX PSU. If your willing to mod, and I am, this could be an interesting case. It inexpensive enough that I don't mid experimenting and modding.
You could easily down size your current ATX build with just a little effort. A compact ATX build would be cool and that compactness (especially for ATX) is very appealing to me.
All that effort why not just buy a h400 and do a matx build
@Matthew Rodbourn the appeal here is a compact size in a ATX case. The H400 is a m-ATX case only, no?
Also there something I like about the look of this case.
My case is a Cooler Master Mastercase H500. With 3 200mm fans and a 120mm aio, my heavily overclocked system stays nice and cool.
1:08 Nice star wars cantina tappin' you got there.
It's an interesting layout, the size looks to be about the same as my Enthoo Evolv ITX case but obviously this fits ATX mobos, but it doesn't look anywhere near as classy and kind of cheap.
My mini ITX case is roughly the same size. On the plus side it doesn't cook the case internals, takes more drives of any format than you have SATA ports on an mITX board AND has an additional hot swap bay, and it has absolutely no GPU clearance issues (takes a 14" card effortlessly). That being said I feel like the volume of the Q500L is criminally underutilized and still comes with a lot of compromises. It's still too large and has nothing to show for it.
But, who wouldn't add fans to this case if using it?
I just ❤️ how Dimitri pronounce Input/Output abbreviation. He says AYOO👍😉
I have the Q300l for a year now with 4×140mm + 120mm fans inside and the temperatures are amazing! 27-30°C on idle and on full load 65°C is the worst case scenario! The only bummer is the noise levels because of the case being practically open since it has holes everywhere, but for a 35€ case ist's pretty decent considering the compact size!
since most people have their cases next to them I am really curious if moving the power supply from the back to the front makes a noticeable audible difference
the fact that how much the quality has gone up
We have similar hopes/expectations form the CPU case manufacturers.
What do you think about the fact that CPU cases don't have any way to accommodate IO from all Motherboard headers. Instead they usually have a few old ports.
This is so outrageous to me. I wish there was a standard op panel on all cases (visible or hidden) and that its "front IO plate" would come with the motherboard, as well as all the header extension cables to mount into the IO panel.
Still waiting for these huge problems to be addressed. Nice video btw. Have a nice day :)
I own the previous iteration of this case : it is a great value for a micro ATX system, with the power supply at the bottom. Mine hase a very good airflow, but yeah, it has no sound proofing.
This case along with the Q300L are cheap enough to where no one should feel bad about modifying the case for better performance. GN did a mod by drilling up the holes, which seems to have confused everyone. Just cut a freaking hole (or square) where your fans will be mounted! It does not "compromise structural integrity" enough to matter. I have six 4.5" holes cut in my Q300L, yeah it's fine.
Wooooooww.....that's really weird. The PSU has to be mounted to the inside of the front of the case? Why? The MasterBox Q300L MicroATX case has the PSU able to be mounted on the bottom of the case, which is normal at least from what I have seen. So you can install 2 intake fans in the Q300L case but not the Q500L case. Very strange if I'm getting that right.
Because he put a ATX board in there, no space at the bottom. If you use mitx you can put it at the bottom.
Best place for Cabinet reviews !
I have 2 PCs in the house that use the Q300L. I love these cases. What value do you get for using ATX vs mATX these days? I'm tired of large ATX cases.
I have a Q300L. No complains here. The 500 looks "improvised" tho.
I hate mine. Noisy AF (and warm). So I replaced it with a Phanteks P300
I imagine someone put a lot of work into that dust filter, and was excited to see this video, and the first thing Dimitri says is it doesn't look that good
So which one do you guys recommend instead of this one? For more or less the same price
Attention, this case is only suitable for people who are not too lazy to think.
Attention, this case is only suitable for people who are not too lazy to think.
Attention, this case is only suitable for people who are not too lazy to think.
Mini ITX for SFX-L ? Unknown brands dominate the market. Come on Cooler-Master !
yup I'm trying to find a small case but just can't seem to find a nice one anywhere
Dunno but Cooler Master haven't released this case in many places, and they are really getting it checked by reviewers for feedback. They might actually improvise sometimes soon.
Cause no Case maker would have balls to send it for so many reviewers after failing from the first one.
I have a question about this case : Let's say you don't use bottom PCIE slots on you motherboard, and don't plug anything in the bottom end of it, is it possible to relocate the PSU bracket to the bottom of the case?
The color on the video looked good! Don't mind the raw video.
Looks like a 120mm CPU cooler with the RAD mounted in the rear exhaust position and a blower style GPU would work best for this case. That way all heat is exhausted straight out of the case.
If you have money for Watercooling, buy a different case...
@@janaebert3059 120mm AIO water cooler from Corsair is $60.00 US.
@@The_Opinion_of_Matt my boxed cooler was $0
If top fans could be added to the outside with added cowlings to make them visually cool, then we could use the extra space inside as an option. K&N look nice
I think cooler master should mod this to dual chamber case. And i think that'll make this case better and good
This case is great in concept, maybe it will be better if they replaced the entire panels with mesh.
Mesh would be ideal because you can anodize it. Boom custom cases in multiple colors.
The case is cool. I have the q300l. The reason why his case is so hot is because he didnt give a fuck and just installed 1 fan in there. I have 3 fans. One in Front for intake. And 2 around cpu cooler for outtake. My cpu cooler is massive aswell. So i dont really have cooling issues
Can the PSU also be mounted at the normal spot (with some fiddling)? I´m thinking that if you´d use a smaller board, a liquid CPU cooler with a 240mm radiator at the top (out) and two 140mm fans at the front (in) you would get better thermals.
I got the Q300L because I liked the size and price (€40 microATX), however my 980ti is getting choked so during intense gaming I remove the side panel and my gpu temp drops 10C.. This case is not made for higher power usage hardware!
I fit a Radeon R9 290 in my Q300L with an inch or so to spare. Not sure if there's anything longer tbh. Card turns it into a real oven though.
Am I the only one who recognized the star wars cantina being tapped by Dimitry @ 1:08 ? 😂
Why isnt anyone setting this in vertical airflow?!?! Intake on bottom exhaust on top its not that hard
As he just told - feet are too short for "proper" intake.
@@Black3ternityhow would he know without trying?
he did try at 5:19 , putting an intake below helps cool down gpu temps.. but it only helps probably around 1-2 degree celsius overall
65 degrees under load is good result - why all YT-ers and "enthusiasts" think their PC will run 100% load all the time lol.
This case is perfectly fine
i have too agree with you it's not the best temps in the world but it looks good even though he only has one fan and you can add more.
The longevity of the PC relies on how well the PC disperses elements that can damage it. If it can be better for the components.
It woud have been nice to see how it performed if you put some more fans in there :o)
A good fix would be to use a SFX PSU with a 140mm intake fan and swap out the rear ran for something better. That would be my plan :)
All things considered looks like a nice case.
65 is toasty huh. My 2012 toshiba runs at 75 on my lap
About the color, your skin tones seems clearly better to me, more organic feel, 10bit?
Yes shooting Raw with the Pocket 4K camera ✌️
@@HardwareCanucks Not all RAWs are equal. =P
@@HardwareCanucks Btw on the BM site says that it is acctually 12bit.
Simple. Needs a rev 2.0 with 3x larger holes in the front. Get on it Cooler Master!
I took out the preinstalled fan from this case, and used the silverstone he02 heatsink. I got this case because it has a dust filter on the top to prevent dust from falling in.
Sean Wilson And how it’s been the temperature situation in your case since then? I really would like to get this case maybe it’s just a matter of adding the proper fans to keep it nice and warm and not hot
I have a q300l and picked it because of its weight. And yes I realize that's a bad qualifier but I had a specific place I wanted to put it.
the best setup I could do is two 140mm static pressure fans in front and two 120mm exhaust fans (throw away the stock one) on back and top back. I didn't bother putting an exhaust on the bottom because my power supply is stupid big and the short legs. The gpu doesn't seem to get unreasonably hot like the cpu though
The top one is a result of a weird hotspot on the top of the case so I'm hoping the exhaust helps the heat escape quicker so it doesn't become a problem
Everything considered I still ended up undervolting my CPU so it doesn't go above 80 and make all my fans ramp up extremely quickly.
This is also my first ryzen so I'm not completely dismissing the possibility the motherboard drivers are causing this somehow but I only got real results after disabling the boost clock (something something overdrive) and going into ryzen master and undervolting.
The processor is a 3600 and is more than what I need but definitely a bummer that it won't see it's full potential without becoming unbearably noisy
Would the case's troubled ventilation be enough for a PC with only IGP and no graphics card? and a non K Intel CPU?
Please let me know where I can get those custom dust filters! I would totally rock them on my case!
Looks like they tried to make a bigger q300l, but did it wrong. The lil buddy (which i have) is amazing, mesh looks clean and doesn't scream gamer as this one. Psu is located on the bottom and you have 5 total spots for fans ( 2 top ,2 front ,1 bottom close to the psu) and 1 good exaust fan.
I think if this case had taller feet and a better dust filter on the bottom it would allow for bottom intake and top exhaust.
Two intake fans on the bottom and two exhaust fans on top. Maybe even rotating the cpu cooler 90 degrees to vent towards the top of the case might get better results. I like the compact size and overall look of the case. I think it has a lot of potential with a few small changes.
Nobody show a picture with the SSD on the back actualy connected. I am guessing it is a pain to connect the at least one of the cables there
Would 300mm gpu and 160mm long modular psu fit there?
I don't have any issue with cooling in this case... I have an R9 390 in it, and it sits behind a TV.
Fan set up is just some left over bitfenix fans I had:
2 fans out, rear and top rear,
2 intake fans both front.
No fan on front top because then you are just blowing out the fresh air you just pulled into the case. before it gets to anything.
Tower cooler is a cheap Akasa Stormforce thing I got off ebay, the fan is set to pull through the back of the cooler because there was not enough ram clearance.
CPU is a Skylake i5 6600k - stays below body temp on idle, never goes above 50c
Graphics is MSI R9 390 Idles at 50 - 65c no matter what I do in all cases I put it in, I think its just how it is.
I just don't understand the "Bad Thermal Performance" shite people keep labeling this case and the Q300L with.
Also why do you only have 1 fan pulling air out while complaining the thermals are bad.
I agree on the bottom dust filter though, I yanked it off mine and bought an extra of the magnetic ones. my case lies flat so I don't need the feet.
Can I put the PSU on the bottom with a mATX board or does it have to be a mini ITX?
I just put a 3080 ok that case, and I just ordered 3 phantek t30 fans. Considering using it with an open configuration
Is good ?
I've been a year with the 300L version and it's not good. The motherboard position limits the space on the top so it was difficult for me to fit a 120 mm fan. Also the one included doesn't do much.
The filters got wrinkled just by taking them off a couple of times to clean the dust. And the holes make anny rgb look terrible. It looks really ugly without the filters
The acrilic panel is more scratched than my old blackberry to the poin of making the inside of the case look blurry
The bottom dust filter is really fragile and every time I take off the plastic caps, it breaks a bit more
Smaller cases fit larger hardware? Consult the porn industry. They got experience in that field.
I wish you had a SFX PSU in hand because i am curious of how the cooling for this system would of been with 2 fans on the bottom and 1 in the front.
Hi can you compare this to the older q300l regarding temprature & cooling performance ? ... I am asking because there are some good deals about the q300L atm
And what about installing 2x140mm from the bottom side, 2 of them on the top side and 1 on the front. I guess, temperatures will be lower. Also you can turn CPU cooler to suck air from bottom to the top and try it. Idk exactly, but it can make the situation better.
I'm going to do that because right now I'm getting atrocious temps. I have some extra fans from an old case so I put 2 120mm fans in the bottom and the one that came stock bottom right. I have a 120mm radiator for my GPU and i'm about to receive a 240mm radiator for my CPU. I really hope it helps cause if it doesn't i'm down 60 bucks for this POS
can my b450m ds3h (atx) fit in that case??
Please can you give some solutions to keep low temperature in this casing ?
I thought about using the q300l for a pc my brother is going to build, but i allready saw on gamers nexus an your yt channel, that can get very hot... Should i use the q300l for the matx build? 🤔
No. Don't. Get a Phanteks P300 m8
Lex4play if you have a Dremel or any other steel cutting tool, sure^^
@@Luke Z @TheSickness1234 @DocteurMolotov
Tanks for all the answers guys :) 👍
They should have made it a itx only case then the psu could be placed at the back and 2 rgb fans at the front.
Would you try out a cooltek umx4? Its a bit different but I think its fun to look at at least!
Finally, a case worthy of the 1650.
Blargh McBlarghson they’re both as crap as each other 😂
@@user-yd4rk4gv6k that's probably the whole point of it... lol
What if...hear me out, you rotated the CPU cooloer to blow exhaust air out the top of the cast. Then, install fans on the bottom of the case. Then use the exhaust as an intake. Furthermore, use an sfx power supply that faces outwards for it's own air source. After, install a 120mm or 92 mm fan as intake below the sfx PSU. Finally, rotate the whole case onto its side with the "glass" facing up.This configuration would then have four intake fans, forcing air out the top (ake the right side when laying flat), with the CPU cooler assisting with exhaust.
I see your point, yeah the thermals aren't great. But it might not be such a big deal if you're doing a more budget build with lower tdp parts. You know, because the case is kind of in that price point.
nickolas474 how do people always find excuses for 💩 designs and lack luster engineering? 🤦♂️
@@TheSickness It's bad, but somebody's gonna buy it. I'd prefer if they did so knowing half of a justification instead of just being an ignorant twathead.
nickolas474 a „justification“ for buying 💩, yup that sounds like full on twathead.
So they released a max tdp rating for the case? 🤷♂️
They call themselves „Cooler Master“ that is false advertising, because twatheads will fall for that...
Tha backside io shield of the case, can it be moved if i want to put the power supply to the bottom back.
looks like a cheap moders case to me! replace feet and cut out front, bottom, and top grills for more airflow. add bracing where the fans mount and you'd have to replace plex with glass. great project case for the cheap! :)
It would make far more sense to have a top mounted aio with two intakes mounted in the bottom of the case. Move the psu down and have a front intake at the top.
So can a 90mm fan fit in the back and the front ?
install two 120mm on the top?