There's actually _another_ Mario Metroidvania hack in existence, this one called Extra Mario Bros (a hack of the original SMB). While the game does have checkpoints, and even a Lap 2 run, it does not have native save functionality... so either you're using savestates, or doing it in one run.
There's also one made for new Super Mario Bros. DS called Super Mario Endless Earth. I have not played it, so I cannot tell you if it's any good, much less if it's as good as these hacks.
I don't even think rom hack difficulty really comes from a lack of design or polish that is afforded to big company games. I think these games are implicitly not designed in a vacuum. Anyone willing to make a hack like this and put in all the effort is naturally inclined to make it harder as the base game is exceptionally easy for them, and they are a part of the community. I would argue that has more to do with difficulty, and it's why things like Kaizo hacks are so prevalent. While smw was designed for first-timers and veterans alike, new players are far less likely to play a rom hack if they have no familiarity with the game it's based on.
Given that Samus literally need control over herself or else she becomes just a humanoid Metroid creature, there is a probable future where Samus does lose control for some reason and you have to find the next best option. This person pretty much only has technology and a stiff body for some reason so that you can gate progress for technological purposes and crawling because for some reason it is that painful for the person to get down on their belly from a standing position. That justifies the set up for villain Samus in a Metroidvania quite well.
@@drdca8263Actually what happened is that by absorbing the X parasite that ate Quiet Robe’s corpse she had assimilated thoha DNA and thus gained the ability to control her metroid half due to the thoha being the only chozo that can control metroids due to their distrust of the mawkin that Samus had the DNA of in the first place. TL;DR Samus ate the evil jelly that gave her the ability to toggle Metroid life force sucking on and off
hell run hard mode (evil) seriously, though, i actually find blood stained sanctuary really fun. the timer makes you feel like you HAVE to go really fast, but if you take a little bit of time, its actually pretty doable
This mod is called Super Mario Expedition and it was created by domokun007. I shouldn't have to go to the end of the video and see the creator in the credits to google their name to find their game. Respect mod authors. Their name and the name of their mods should be on full display in your description and highlighted in the very beginning of your video. Especially when you're making money off of it and they're not.
6:50 to be honest... it really is. if youre fighting for your life, in danger of drowning, and you see the floating dead body of someone floating right next to you, who obviously failed in the same situation... its not exactly inspiring any confidence of "im gonna live"
@@megaman37456 And Mario is a Donkey Kong character, does that make Super Mario Sunshine a Donkey Kong game? No. The games are built very differently and their design identities should be respected.
@@Skooch YOU CAN SPINJUMP ON THE GIANT SPINY CANT YOU (srsly could you have spinjumped at that point cause that would have made the spiny fight easier, if they took that from you i would cry)
Just chiming in to say i love the type of videos where you put random characters in somewhat similar games, you should do peppino in fucking Alan Wake or something next
Really fun video, the commentary was really fun, I started playing league for the first time a few months ago and I've been watching your older league videos, nice to see you're still posting high quality videos now
It's funny you even ask the what if question about Mario metroidvanias, since the inspiration behind Metroid to begin with (besides the Alien franchise) was combining the platforming of Mario with the exploration of LoZ.
Finally someone's talking about what I wished for all the time. I would even expand the idea and suggest 3D Mario to get the Metroidvania-Treatment aswell.
Not gone hold you fam, not even 10 secs in and I'm already liking the vid. I know I'm about to be laughing my ass off while loving video games. Keep it up bruh 😂🤣😂🙏🏽✊🏽
I think a Mario metrovania type game would be interesting and something I believe Nintendo would actually try it, maybe the main character would be Toad or some other side character.
The MARIO franchise has been a really interesting one. in basically every game your fully capable to do everything Mario is known for being able to do. i'd like to think this is why they made Super Mario RPG the way they did so you actually had to learn how to play it unlike most any other game like Mario 64 and Odyssey where your fully capable with only needing to know how to perform each move Mario is capable of where taking control of certain enemies and using certain things are purely location based "power ups" instead of the traditional power up where many an RPG maker player attempted to create a metroidvania style level requiring the player to need certain power ups to unlock and acquire other powerups and items. The way i see it, if someone is going to make a Mario Metroidvania it would have to allow Mario to change abilities as needed from whichever abilities he managed to unlock/acquire as a permanent thing he can make use of but only be able to use one at a time. Think Wario in disguise, normally a separate IP is made use of to test or make use of questionable things. Just ask the Animaniacs. But that's just a theory... a comment theory.
i have never seen a thumbnail and title change between reloading a page like in this video, the windows media control still showing the first one i clicked cool
The alien fight is weird, but I'm just glad to see a final boss fight that isn't just Bowser in his freaking koopa copter again. I swear every rom hack ever uses that exact fight as the final boss every single time with maybe a new attack or a model change or something at best.
I had a previous comment but I though it sucked so I re-wrote it to be better. Mario starts in his small form and has his moveset from SMB1. First power up is the Mushroom which makes him bigger, lets him break overhead blocks, crouch and every mushroom found going forth is a Max HP Up. After a mini-boss with a Giant Bat Mario gets the Power Jewel. This just gives him the P speed bar mechanic from SMB3. I called it the 'Power Jewel' bc 'P Jewel' or 'Jewel of P' sounds stupid. After a boss fight with 2 mega-hammer bros Mario gains his equivalent to a whip or sword, the hammer. Letting him swing it in an arc when stood on the ground to break blocks and attack enemies from the side. Next let's really start the party with something crazy. The Blue Shell will be the first power up to make use of Mario new found speed. When at full speed by crouching Mario will enter the shell and it'll function identically to how it does in New SMB for DS. It goes through 1 block gaps so it's a slide. It's really fast. And crosses over spikes. For some air mobility Mario will fight a big ghost with a lantern, and upon defeat the lantern will break to reveal the Silver Luma from the Galaxy duology to give you Mario's Spin. Which is the same has it is in Galaxy but also enables spin jumping and mid-air twirls from the New SMB series. Spin jumping can hit spiked enemies btw. Next up after defeating a giant Vulture that turns into Slogra, Mario will gain the cap feather. Giving him a P speed version of gravity boots, psuedo flight and extending the range of his spin attacks. It'll even slow your fall like the flying armor soul from aria/dawn of sorrow. Next is the Metal Cap. Mario can now ground pound, this damages enemies, breaks blocks, is cancelable with a twirl, You can even do the homing ground pound from galaxy as well. While I wanted to use the Fire and Ice flowers, the Hammer feels under powered. So let's fix that with the Fire Drive and Ice Smash Badges! Mario can now through a flaming hammer like the Axe subweapon to light fires and melt ice. While the Ice smash is a horizontal spin that freezes things around Mario and extinguishes fires. Mario's kit is looking pretty cracked rn, but let's round it out some more with proper flight. The Red Star will fall from the heavens upon beating death and grant Mario a true equivalent to Alucard's 'soul of bat' and it'll function identically to it's appearance in Galaxy 1. For a miscellanious power up, the Frog Suit gives Mario the ability to properly swim. Now being fast enough to make it past jet streams. I wanted to use the wing cap for something, so let's give Mario his long jump, double and triple jump from the 3D entries. Note this isn't leap stone type double jump, it's just the extra height jumps from mario 64 and onwards. Mario can also find the Spike shield, Ice power, Fire power ans Zap Tap badges to be able to jump on the enemies that the badge correlates to. If you really want form of mist just put down a switch for the invisible cap so invis. cap blocks appear across the castle.
This was neat! amother Mario Metroidvania in smw that I immediately think of is "Mushroom Kingdom: Under Crimson Skies". You should give that one a go!
balan wonderworld kind of tried it whit their one trick transformations to access some collectables, in other hand kirby's adventure featured some rooms that required abilities outside the levels, but replay those levels whit the new abilities where a completely different experience and had the added challenge of not being hit.
11:57 I have seen a boss with this EXACT pattern in a smw Castlevania Rom hack. This attack pattern is bit for bit identical to the one in the grim reaper fight.
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Skooch went from the "League of Legends" guy to a "im gonna stick random characters in different game types" guy
Not a bad story ark
He did League?
He went from suffering to suffering (fun)
Greatest character arc in history
Upgrade tbh
ok but "the only thing worse than the fear of drowning is seeing somebody who already did" is an AMAZING LINE
fr, it reminds me of that one part in i hate you where mario sees all his dead selves
That's the subject of In The Air Tonight by Phil Collins
There's actually _another_ Mario Metroidvania hack in existence, this one called Extra Mario Bros (a hack of the original SMB). While the game does have checkpoints, and even a Lap 2 run, it does not have native save functionality... so either you're using savestates, or doing it in one run.
Was about to reference that. Phenomenal hack. I consider it the B3313 of nes mario hacks.
I mean, if you're not using safe states in general, what are you doing? Wasting your time having to go back every time you miss a jump.
There's also one made for new Super Mario Bros. DS called Super Mario Endless Earth. I have not played it, so I cannot tell you if it's any good, much less if it's as good as these hacks.
Almost like classic NES Metroid
@@MrGamelover23 If you're undoing every single failed jump what even is the point in playing
And they say that Toad is still waiting for Mario to find his key so he can finally get to his fridge.
Damn
No idea what Ur on about but lol
Oh now I get it
@@YouGoBoomYoget That happened 2 minutes into the video, no shit comments talking about a video you haven't watched are going to be confusing.
Lol
The dev saw your last video on making core abilities cost money and went "Write that down"
Hopefully more devs can hop on board 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@SkoochMoneybags face ahh mechanic. XD I personally don't like it.
I don't even think rom hack difficulty really comes from a lack of design or polish that is afforded to big company games. I think these games are implicitly not designed in a vacuum.
Anyone willing to make a hack like this and put in all the effort is naturally inclined to make it harder as the base game is exceptionally easy for them, and they are a part of the community. I would argue that has more to do with difficulty, and it's why things like Kaizo hacks are so prevalent.
While smw was designed for first-timers and veterans alike, new players are far less likely to play a rom hack if they have no familiarity with the game it's based on.
It's called developer bias. Devs become blind to difficulty.
You raise a good point. A vampiric Samus would be an awesome final boss for a Metroidvania.
Given that Samus literally need control over herself or else she becomes just a humanoid Metroid creature, there is a probable future where Samus does lose control for some reason and you have to find the next best option. This person pretty much only has technology and a stiff body for some reason so that you can gate progress for technological purposes and crawling because for some reason it is that painful for the person to get down on their belly from a standing position. That justifies the set up for villain Samus in a Metroidvania quite well.
SA-X, Dark Samus
@@iantaakalla8180 She was cured of the partial Metroid DNA thing at the end of Dread. She's back to being pure human now.
@@WaffletigercatYou mean by the thing taking the form of that one Chozo? How do we know it was removed rather than just made dormant again?
@@drdca8263Actually what happened is that by absorbing the X parasite that ate Quiet Robe’s corpse she had assimilated thoha DNA and thus gained the ability to control her metroid half due to the thoha being the only chozo that can control metroids due to their distrust of the mawkin that Samus had the DNA of in the first place.
TL;DR
Samus ate the evil jelly that gave her the ability to toggle Metroid life force sucking on and off
With Skooch tackling that space ship I wanna see him go through the Hell run at the end of the true ending to Cave Story.
hell run hard mode (evil)
seriously, though, i actually find blood stained sanctuary really fun. the timer makes you feel like you HAVE to go really fast, but if you take a little bit of time, its actually pretty doable
@@elizathegamer413Fun fact: the timer is optional
Happy Birthday, Cake
Happy b day
Happy day birth
Why are you replying to me thats what Mr. Skooch said to comment-
I thought we could just get a long chain of happy birthdays in the replies for Mr. Cake
@@panix6 ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh, Happy Birthday again, Cake
This mod is called Super Mario Expedition and it was created by domokun007. I shouldn't have to go to the end of the video and see the creator in the credits to google their name to find their game. Respect mod authors. Their name and the name of their mods should be on full display in your description and highlighted in the very beginning of your video. Especially when you're making money off of it and they're not.
Great video! Chasm is pronounced with a hard K sound.
Oh, thanks. Kchasm.
@@noway9267 You're kwelcome
I thought it was a joke to make it an alliteration with "Chomp"
@ColossalM Komp’s Kasm
My brother in heaven and christ....warioland 3 is right around the corner.
this is exactly what I was thinking lol
6:50 to be honest... it really is. if youre fighting for your life, in danger of drowning, and you see the floating dead body of someone floating right next to you, who obviously failed in the same situation... its not exactly inspiring any confidence of "im gonna live"
Oh boy them Cha-zams... I can't get over them.
Here comes Skooch once again breaking the meta on the daily. Dang this man cooks harder than anyone
Video Title: What would a Mario Metroidvania look like?
Me: Ever play Wario Land 3?
Technically that's a Wario metroidvania, different design philosophy.
@@Phaeton635 Wario is still a mario character.
@@megaman37456 And Mario is a Donkey Kong character, does that make Super Mario Sunshine a Donkey Kong game? No. The games are built very differently and their design identities should be respected.
@Trayen100 Yes it does. Super Mario Sunshine is a shitty Donkey Kong game.
@@orsonzedd Wanna go further? Donkey Kong was originally a Popeye game. So... Super Mario Sunshine is a Popeye game.
i dont know if standalone fangames count, but the plumber thing by hempuli (yes, THAT hempuli) is another great "mario" metroidvania.
Happy birthday Cake!!!! 🎉
12:00 Nice to see you noticed Undine from Secret of Mana
I think it's called "quick sand" because that's just how the states of matter work.
Skooch, make a video about you learning how to swim.
*drowns instead*
@@Skooch YOU CAN SPINJUMP ON THE GIANT SPINY CANT YOU
(srsly could you have spinjumped at that point cause that would have made the spiny fight easier, if they took that from you i would cry)
That castle boss looked like one of those helper spirit thingies from the Mana games.
Undine, the Mana Spirit of Water, to be exact.
Well, we got Mario hollow knight BEFORE gta6
Before silksong
@@Helldragon789thats what I was gonna say
Just a massive version of mario vs donkey kong with a bunch of upgrades scattered around a single map
Just chiming in to say i love the type of videos where you put random characters in somewhat similar games, you should do peppino in fucking Alan Wake or something next
Randomly seeing Undine from Secret of Mana was wild.
That's no mere Chill Bully. That's Chief Chilly from 64DS!
It would look a lot like Kirby and The Amazing Mirror.
I've wanted a cyberpunk aesthetic gritty metroidvania starring princess daisy for a decade
HAPPY BIRTHDAY CAKE!!
Really fun video, the commentary was really fun, I started playing league for the first time a few months ago and I've been watching your older league videos, nice to see you're still posting high quality videos now
2:13 that Chespirito reference ❤
The randomizing games/characters videos are here to stay baby! YESSIR!!!
It's funny you even ask the what if question about Mario metroidvanias, since the inspiration behind Metroid to begin with (besides the Alien franchise) was combining the platforming of Mario with the exploration of LoZ.
I’ve always wanted Mario metroidvania starring Dimentio after the events of SPM trying to escape the underworld
11:40 That's Undine from Secret of Mana.
12:32
I was definitely not expecting Undine from Secret of Mana to appear just to be a boss fight in Mariovania.
happy birthday cake!!
oh yeah and these videos have been really good skooch, keep it up and all that
It's amazing how much of the stream was dedicated to the stupid code and it just ended up rewarding extra hearts.
Also happy birthday, Cake.
That boss at 11:52 is from Secret of Mana. In that game it was an elemental ally.
There's an open-world-style 2D Mario romhack on the DS.
New Super Mario Bros. Endless Earth
It's quite intricate.
13:06 why is he throwing molotovs?
If you want a Sonic Metroidvania, there is a fangame called Sonic Chronos
Finally someone's talking about what I wished for all the time. I would even expand the idea and suggest 3D Mario to get the Metroidvania-Treatment aswell.
Not gone hold you fam, not even 10 secs in and I'm already liking the vid. I know I'm about to be laughing my ass off while loving video games. Keep it up bruh 😂🤣😂🙏🏽✊🏽
Classic "A winner is you" ending
I know it’s not quite a Mario game, but Wario Land 3 is a Metroidvania
You kind sir, gained my respect after that New Jersey diss lol
Certified skooch banger
Happy Belated Birthday EpicCake.
Princess should have said "I'm sorry but your princess is in another castle" then given him another level even harder
I think a Mario metrovania type game would be interesting and something I believe Nintendo would actually try it, maybe the main character would be Toad or some other side character.
Skooch there is a Super Mario Metroidvania
It’s called Wario Land
You should try them
11:45 That's the undine (water elemental spirit) from "Secret of Mana."
Honestly seeing Skooch upload is a pure highlight on any day.
0:42 Nobody tell him about kaizo
Happy bday!
Ah, yes. Big Hunka Tunka Bunka Dunk. My favorite boss fight.
Undine was upgraded to princess of Hyrule. I like that. :D
1:08 That’s the name of a location in Miitopia
The MARIO franchise has been a really interesting one. in basically every game your fully capable to do everything Mario is known for being able to do. i'd like to think this is why they made Super Mario RPG the way they did so you actually had to learn how to play it unlike most any other game like Mario 64 and Odyssey where your fully capable with only needing to know how to perform each move Mario is capable of where taking control of certain enemies and using certain things are purely location based "power ups" instead of the traditional power up where many an RPG maker player attempted to create a metroidvania style level requiring the player to need certain power ups to unlock and acquire other powerups and items.
The way i see it, if someone is going to make a Mario Metroidvania it would have to allow Mario to change abilities as needed from whichever abilities he managed to unlock/acquire as a permanent thing he can make use of but only be able to use one at a time. Think Wario in disguise, normally a separate IP is made use of to test or make use of questionable things. Just ask the Animaniacs.
But that's just a theory... a comment theory.
The oks at 10:16 were a perfect rammus moment, i can't believe you missed it.
oh I played this romhack. It was pretty good.
It took a couple of hours for me to get used to the controls, but once I did, it was very fun.
i have never seen a thumbnail and title change between reloading a page like in this video, the windows media control still showing the first one i clicked
cool
i think the castle area used the sprites from hollow knight's white palace ran through a pixel reducer lol, some of those look REALLY familiar
Skooch once again showing us that hes a god among gamers
P.S. Happy Birthday Cake🎂🎉
HAPPY BIRTHDAY CAKE
You had me at Movie Magic. Maybe it's a 1% joke, but I am that 1%.
No joke, when I was playing Mario Wonder earlier this year I was thinking a Mario Metroidvania would be really cool.
The alien fight is weird, but I'm just glad to see a final boss fight that isn't just Bowser in his freaking koopa copter again. I swear every rom hack ever uses that exact fight as the final boss every single time with maybe a new attack or a model change or something at best.
Happy birthday cake, I think that would be very wholesome and awesome :)
They way he pronounces chasm brings me joy
Happy one month ago, cake, you are super epic(pun intended)
You should also check out Mariovania! It's basically Mario + Castlevania and is really fun! It's a lot like Ponyvania!
Open world 2D mario platform game sounds amazing
I had a previous comment but I though it sucked so I re-wrote it to be better.
Mario starts in his small form and has his moveset from SMB1.
First power up is the Mushroom which makes him bigger, lets him break overhead blocks, crouch and every mushroom found going forth is a Max HP Up.
After a mini-boss with a Giant Bat Mario gets the Power Jewel. This just gives him the P speed bar mechanic from SMB3. I called it the 'Power Jewel' bc 'P Jewel' or 'Jewel of P' sounds stupid.
After a boss fight with 2 mega-hammer bros Mario gains his equivalent to a whip or sword, the hammer. Letting him swing it in an arc when stood on the ground to break blocks and attack enemies from the side.
Next let's really start the party with something crazy. The Blue Shell will be the first power up to make use of Mario new found speed. When at full speed by crouching Mario will enter the shell and it'll function identically to how it does in New SMB for DS. It goes through 1 block gaps so it's a slide. It's really fast. And crosses over spikes.
For some air mobility Mario will fight a big ghost with a lantern, and upon defeat the lantern will break to reveal the Silver Luma from the Galaxy duology to give you Mario's Spin. Which is the same has it is in Galaxy but also enables spin jumping and mid-air twirls from the New SMB series. Spin jumping can hit spiked enemies btw.
Next up after defeating a giant Vulture that turns into Slogra, Mario will gain the cap feather. Giving him a P speed version of gravity boots, psuedo flight and extending the range of his spin attacks. It'll even slow your fall like the flying armor soul from aria/dawn of sorrow.
Next is the Metal Cap. Mario can now ground pound, this damages enemies, breaks blocks, is cancelable with a twirl, You can even do the homing ground pound from galaxy as well.
While I wanted to use the Fire and Ice flowers, the Hammer feels under powered. So let's fix that with the Fire Drive and Ice Smash Badges! Mario can now through a flaming hammer like the Axe subweapon to light fires and melt ice. While the Ice smash is a horizontal spin that freezes things around Mario and extinguishes fires.
Mario's kit is looking pretty cracked rn, but let's round it out some more with proper flight. The Red Star will fall from the heavens upon beating death and grant Mario a true equivalent to Alucard's 'soul of bat' and it'll function identically to it's appearance in Galaxy 1.
For a miscellanious power up, the Frog Suit gives Mario the ability to properly swim. Now being fast enough to make it past jet streams.
I wanted to use the wing cap for something, so let's give Mario his long jump, double and triple jump from the 3D entries. Note this isn't leap stone type double jump, it's just the extra height jumps from mario 64 and onwards.
Mario can also find the Spike shield, Ice power, Fire power ans Zap Tap badges to be able to jump on the enemies that the badge correlates to.
If you really want form of mist just put down a switch for the invisible cap so invis. cap blocks appear across the castle.
3:43 SONIC REFERENCE
Happy Birthday, Cake!
I'm really enjoying this vid btw
"she said here twice"
This guy writes
First time watching your content, pretty epic! not gonna lie, rlly wacky and goofy! Juts became a fan just by this vid alone
5:02 I didnt watch any of this video, but I was skipping around on it and just heard him pronounce chasm like that and felt the need to point it out
This was neat! amother Mario Metroidvania in smw that I immediately think of is "Mushroom Kingdom: Under Crimson Skies". You should give that one a go!
balan wonderworld kind of tried it whit their one trick transformations to access some collectables, in other hand kirby's adventure featured some rooms that required abilities outside the levels, but replay those levels whit the new abilities where a completely different experience and had the added challenge of not being hit.
That is the Water Spirit/Undine form Sercret of Mana at 11:47
Happy birthday, RandomEpicCake! Also, great video, Skooch.
I'm having flashbacks to the mole crickets hole because of that map
Now try Super Mario: Endless Earth by MarioFanatic64
It's also a Metroidvania style romhack
Happy birthday, Cake!
I now want an official mario metroidvania. ❤
Happy birthday to you, Cake!
Thanks Skooch for the quality uploads
Play Mario XP. It's classic mario mixed with classic Castlevania. It's an old Click & Create game, but still really good.
That was Undine from Secret of Mana btw.
When I plays Mario Wonder I thought it would translate well to a Metroidvania
That getting over it section would have been way less frustrating if you used save states.
Like I've said before: With you narrating a video, I'm definitely watching.
11:57
I have seen a boss with this EXACT pattern in a smw Castlevania Rom hack. This attack pattern is bit for bit identical to the one in the grim reaper fight.
Another banger, good shit🔥
“UMMM ACTUALLY ITS CALLED A ROM HACK 🤓☝️”
it would be funny if mario was actually in super metroid