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Making a 'lay flat' River for tabletop wargaming
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- Опубликовано: 24 фев 2021
- I've never been a big fan of terrain that sits 'on top' of the table, when it is suppose to be 'in' or 'under' the level of the gaming table. Obviously that is difficult to model when you have a solid surface to game on, so I think this method for making some simple rivers is pretty effective.
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I really like this technique. I agree that most rivers with their banks are always high above the table. This looks more like a river than a raised canal!
That is one of the reasons I love this technique ... you avoid that look of the river "sitting on top" of the table
I LOVE THIS'!!! Regards from Kuala Lumpur
Thank you very much!
Brilliant stuff! That has more of a river look than 95% of the river pieces one normally sees on a table. I think this may be the answer to how I can best/most easily make a "river" in the Underhive. My terrain tiles will be the banks. Now to get some plastic. Cheers!
Have fun! I'm looking forward to doing a few different ones to fit different tables and setups.
You can use sand and woodland scenics scatter terrain for the banks. We’ve done something similar, but not as nice for years.
Gonna do this for puddles and oil slicks for Gaslands. Thanks!
Oh man, the ideal use of this technique!!
So good to have you back making content like this!
I'm really feeling very good at the moment! I've got lots of ideas for things moving forward. I've got regular videos scheduled every Friday and will start a regular live stream shortly.
It shows man, you look... content.
Nice work on the rivers. I may try this out plus add side terrain to the river piece itself with silicone caulk and sand mixture with flock added on top.
Would love to see how it turns out! There is a link in the video description to the community group, if you use Facebook post some pictures there so I can see!
Thanks mate. Has to be the best looking do it yourself River I've ever seen. Cheers
Thanks 👍
I really like how this came out, rivers are so hard to really make and I think this is a great way to get something real
It's certainly very simple to do, yet effective as well!
@@KnightsOfDice I think if refined can really help add more water terrain to so many games
O M F G that is what youtube is for.. I have been racking my brains as to how to get a long section of river.............. woo hoo fantastic video mate, I'm off to see where to get plastic from and will give it a go. thank you so much for sharing
Very nice! This gives me ideas for sure. We've used some blue tinted plastic on some batreps. It has worked ok. But this is a much better technique. We might even have some suitable plastic. Need some scatter for the edges.
The advantage is that all that extra scatter you need to make the banks can be used in other games as just general scatter too!
So simple, yet so effective. I had to watch the beginning of the video again because was sure I thought it was some kind of tricky thin resin pour at first!
Definitely the way I will do my rivers from now on :)
It definitely makes things easier! I'm one of those gamers that just needs a "representation" of what is on the table, it doesn't need to be 'realistic' so this works very well for me.
Thicker material I think would be the go. This method would be great for canals and other man-made water sources, where you could have a house right up against the water, like you see in Venice or parts of Tokyo. Thanks so much Viv, for sharing this great idea. Thanks too for sharing the bits that didn't work out right, so we can all avoid making the same mistakes!
I'm very keen to have a play with the thicker material! I'm also going to be doing some videos on our Pacific Hut range of MDF model kits that would be great overhanging the water. Those models are on stilts so I think they would look awesome on the river bank with the front stilts in the water
@@KnightsOfDice Oh that's brilliant! They're great kits, and having them overhanging the water would look great. That would also make for some great boards to play on too. A jungle board where you treat the rivers as shallow, clear terrain would be a great way to control line of sight, and have a real visual appeal
Wow the trial and error payed off. Nice depth you got in the river! Well done.
Haha, it came up good in the end! if I had read actually read the tutorial on Facebook though (as opposed to "oh, that looks cool. I can do that" I could have skipped the trial and error! :)
I like this better than any other river solution I've seen. Thanks!
A great idea, Viv. I made a river using vinyl floor tiles with brown caulk and flock for the banks. It looks good but there is the problem with joins in the sections. I like this solution much better.
Yeah, aside from the issue with river sections 'sitting on top' of the table, one of the biggest draw backs for me has always been the join between sections!
Dudes taken inspiration from the Brisbane River 😂 Looks amazing man!
I'm so excited to have you show me how to make terrain again!!!
Well I'm excited to be making new videos, even though I haven't done any recently about the products we actually make and sell! Hahaha
So happy to have found this. I need a 1 to 1 1/2 foot wide river for a scenario. This will be great.
Next time keep a spray bottle with water in it handy to slow the drying time and it should help out with blending the paint as well 😉 cheers mate!
Hahaha, you know what's funny ... I had a spray bottle there but didn't use it once!! :)
I also had a little bowl of water (which you see me knock over) that I only used once :)
Best river technique I've seen so far, thanks for sharing it.
HOLY SMOKES! This is a great idea! So simple and cheap! Friggin brilliant. I want to try this asap, I need to go for a cartoony blue. This could make beaches too!
It would make GREAT beaches!!
this looks great
So cool mate. Over a year old and only now i just get to see this trick. Very handy and i will definitely do that. Thanks man
Very impressive! Love the simplicity! Great!
Thanks, it means I can have lots of different types of rivers and layouts by simply changing the banks ... that's versatility!
Looks nice!
Such a cool idea. That oily streak one might be good for Neceomunda or dystopia games.
Indeed! My brother was in the studio when I was doing that and he said it looked awesome, but if it was green it would be amazing for toxic sludge.
Looks great. Another impressive idea.
Well, it wasn't my idea ... just a technique I saw on Facebook (link in the description) that I wanted to try out!
Just what I'm lookin for. Looks really good. Good Technique
Glad you like it!
Nice.
Not something many would think of.
Great end product. 👍
This blew my mind. The biggest pro is that this takes little storage space!!!
Very nice alternative to the typical river sections. Will have to give it a go some time. Thanks 🙏
If you do, jump on the KoD Community Group on Facebook (if you use it) and share some pics, I'd love to see them!
Very awesome! I hope to see your further experiments with the thicker plastic
It's a quick and effective method, I'm very keen to dry out making some pieces for canals, and a sludgy toxic greenish mess for a 40k/Necromunda table!
Looks like a good way to make rivers for big maps. Gonna have to try it when I have some free time!
Thanks for sharing this method! 😄
This is great. I needed a technique that tackles the issue of the "floating river". I tried using old CD covers to make small ponds before, but that still wasn't flat enough, just using straight up pieces of foil never occurred to me.
It's such a nice method .. quick, easy but effective!
WOW!!! This is brilliant!! I have made resin rivers and repainted Pegasus river sections adding clear silicone over the top which look good but this looks waaaay better. Plus it will take one one hundredth the time I spent on those other methods. I have to try this. Thanks for the video.
Glad you found it useful ... it's certainly not as detailed as a nice resin river but it's super quick and easy to do whilst still looking the part!
Awesome idea, I'll definitely be trying this.
Love this idea. Will need to try this out myself
Share your results on the KoD Community Group on Facebook ... I'd love to see what other people do!
Great tutorial thank you!
This looks very interesting indeed .
It's a wonderful technique!
I think if I were gaming at home or even a dedicated 4x6 gaming table, I would definitely use this. I'd go for flock along the edges as opposed to scatter terrain.
I would still use the plasticard method for all other needs, just because it comes with its own banks and less mess.
I'm going to have to give this a try. Thanks!
Very happy with the process ... will make adding more to the terrain collection very easy
I think I may be very glad I saved the plastic my foam board came in!
Best rivers I've that weren't cut into the terrain (like a real river)
Looks great and love the fact it sits flat 👍🏻🇬🇧
Indeed! And being able to roll up and shoved into a postage tube makes storage very easy!
That is super cool. I will deffinately have to try that some time.
Wow, minimalist and effective!
As a future suggestion if the curling only occurs at the edges it make most sense to paint the squared plastic first. Then cut out the uncurled bit as you river.
Thanks for this.
Brilliant method. Going to try it this weekend. Thanks for sharing bud.
Really interesting and useful video. I've always found doing rivers a nightmare- so am going to give this method a shot.
This video is very insightful and informative thank u for making this u just got ur self another subscriber 👍🏼
Thanks for the sub!
Super interesting! Thank you!
You're very welcome, glad you found it useful!
It looks okay and I may try this one day!
I'm really happy with it. Not super realistic like you'd get with resin rivers etc, but It makes storing rivers VERY easy.
Thank you what a great idea. I think I will have a try to.
Give it a crack! Share it on the KoD Community Group on Facebook if you do (and use Facebook!)
That a good idea thanks for sharing it
You're very welcome!
Luke sent me, great vid, good channel. Thank you 👍
Thanks for joining me! I appreciate the time you took to pop over and leave a comment too! Cheers
What are the two types of plastic? Do you use standard acrylics or household paint?
They are 'table protectors' that you can buy 'by the metre'. I only use regular household paints that you buy from the hardware store in the paint section
Thanks for sharing this is great!
I love this method, wonder if you have tried the thicker plastic and how it went? :D
Really cool and cheap too.
I mean I haven't tried it yet, but I sure as shit want to now! It kinda defeats the point of having it be portable and be "crunchable" but I'm wondering if you make a river bend, how well you could decorate the UNPAINTED side of your river to make it look like a sand-bank or gravel bed. I also wonder about layering some ink gradients with an airbrush along the edges instead of making it opaque to have the painted table/mat show through to make it look like water gently ebbing ontop of the existing design. THERE WILL BE EXPERIMENTS
Really interesting thoughts! There is certainly scope for experiments, and with this material costing only $9 per metre it makes it cheap to have a play around!
Thanks for the idea Sir
This is a great idea :)
I'm really happy with how things worked out!
looks pretty great! I'm going to give it a go - I think I will try painting it then cutting out the shape. What do you think? I'm not a FB person - so I appreciate you showing the process : )
The only thing I can think of with that method is that you need to keep in mind where your centre line will be after you cut it, so that you have the darker colour in the middle.
What about doing a sand and PVA on the top side a the banks so that you have less need to cover the banks with scatter terrain?
Could a bank be created by painting the edges of the other side of the plastic with a slightly textured paint and then putting some static grass on it?
It's a good idea, worthy a try at least! Maybe even a thin'ish layer of a flexible acrylic caulking ...
Viv, this is dope, but could you perhaps link to the original post or something?
It's in the description. I thought I had mentioned it in the video but that must have been a different edit. I usually link anything I mention in the description
Honestly I think it looked best unpainted!
9/5/23, how has the plastic held up?
It's been rolled up for sometime now, just sitting around with so many other things. Good time to pull it out and see how it has aged!
Can you share what they were from bunnings if you recall? I want to go get some 🤣
So how did the thicker plastic work out?
Just regular acrylic paint?
Nice. How has the plastic help up since you made it?
I was going put epoxy resin on then I see your idea.. Can it be glue on xps foam instead of me putting the epoxy resin in.. I have the river bed but no water...what paint did you use.. Thank you
I just used regular acrylic house paints. I figure any kind of paint would work really. I don't see why you couldn't glue it to some xps, which glue though ... hrmm, I'd try some contact adhesive on a little piece first.
@@KnightsOfDice thank you so much for the help. ❤️🙏😊
What type of paint held up to that?
Bunnings you say? Where abouts in bunnings can you find this stuff?
It's usually near the flooring section, in the isle over from the tiles.... on large rolls, they'll cut off what you need.
@@KnightsOfDice Great thank you very much, did you settle with the 0.3 thickness in the end?
@@squallgoku777 yeah, I just stuck with the 0.3
Based and river-pilled
What kind of paint did you use? Acrylics?
I assume they are acrylic. They are just regular water based paints that you get from the hardware store.
Great video. Tell me what colors are better to choose so that the river looks less muddy and more like clear rivers? I am collecting terrain for a medieval game and I wanted a more blue river.
I couldn't give you exact paints to use as they'd be called different things depending on where you are, but look for at least 2 different blues you like and go for it! I only use regular household paints when painting terrain (and some specialty spray cans from time to time), so I just go for a wander in the paint department and pick various colour swatches I like and get little sample pots.
@@KnightsOfDice Thank you. Apparently it's time to experiment
Only water I’ve ever seen that was blue was the sea in a tropical or semi-tropical climate. Small watercourses tend to be muddy, greenish or transparent, in the last case you see the colour of the banks or rocks beneath, which are never blue.
just buy a thin sheet of Plexi glass or something similar. No edge curling issues and more durable.
It's a good option but it doesn't have the nice "ripple" the plastic has though
What exactly is the plastic stuff you bought called?
From Bunnings here in Australia it is called "Crystal Clear 1.0 x 1370mm Wide Vinyl Tablecloth" ... hope that helps!
@@KnightsOfDice Oh it's a tablecloth, good to know!
Heat guns might be required
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