Why would they want to take back someone who plotted to take over Hybe/BigHit and destroy other artists careers? I've nothing against New Jeans at all, I wish them well but they need to realise they can go on without MHJ
@@chihuang422 Don’t know… but Hybe needs growth. They can’t keep relying on BTS. We shall see but Shareholders like to see growth… they do not like to see loss of revenues or negative growth
@@DxModel219stock only goes up when bts announces the release of music, wins huge awards, getting a billboard #1 meanwhile min heejins and her group are always causing stocks to plummet, one group has to keep saving hybe from financial losses while the other almost always brings drama to the label & makes stocks drop
They act like HYBEs stocks are the only ones down… they know nothing about the market. Besides the stock holders are not worried and know it’s going to rebound! Also how dumb can you be to even suggest allowing MHJ to stay within the company or “co” anything after all that she has done ?? What kind of trip are you on ?? Obviously a pity-party one because the sweet little girls may have come to their demise because of their FORMER CEO .. you know , the one that loves them so much she used them as shields to protect herself. Pfft 🤦🏻♀️
I wonder why all korean related media making reports in favor of Min Hee Jin. Only few independant korean reporters are reporting the related issues with facts and common sense. This just tells that this isn't just Min Hee Jin acting alone. I think something huge is backing up Min Hee Jin aside from Maccoll consulting.
Ikr. I think most SK medias are looking down on Hybe because it comes from underdog status. They will always watch at you in detail and ready to throw shit whenever something goes wrong. Besides, the chairman is not good looking, charming or even can communicate well either...visual image is very important in SK.
People can we please stop acting like HYBE has to do what NewJeans wants because they are making good money for the company. Do you know the old saying in the west, You cant let the inmates run the prison. If HYBE brought back MHJ as a Co-CEO they would have opened the flood gates of future problems with Idols that are not happy. BTS ARMY built HYBE so I think they have spoken on this situation they want MHJ gone for good. Plus J Hope is about to return in a few weeks then the other members are just months out.
This channel is anti-Hybe and the reporters are betting that MHJ will come out on top and think her favor will mean something. I hope she doesn’t, that would be a bad message and invite more crimes in the workplace. Do what she did within your own workplaces and see how your company would react.
Don’t be surprised, it’s a known fact Korean journalism isn’t real journalism, they can be bought and will always bring their bias, let’s not forget what they did to the parasite actor. They lied on his name and painted him as a bad guy and never owned up to their doings until someone passes
Panelist Bernie use of stock price valuation as ultimate measure is a very poor way of showing of what the shareholders view of Hybe-MHJ issue. There are diff variables that affect stock prices esp in post covid era when countries suffer high inflation and big major acts are in hiatus. all other k-entertainment companies, who doesnt even have a mhj -like issue, have suffered more decreases than Hybe. This Panelist also greatly missed why Hybe wanted MHJ out in the first place.with all the issues surrounding betrayal of trust, steps to takeover a sublabel, and leaking confidential company info for shamanistic management, not to mention her false accusations of plagiarisms towards ILLIT, obsessiveness to have nwjns first gg, and her attempts to bribe BTS accountant for financial info with burning desire to lock BTS in military and use BTS absence to poach what she doesnt own.. all those public defamations/slanders, her media play of BTS cult allegations and sajaegi to hit Hybe/BTS image... all of these and still you want Hybe to settle with her as Co-CEO of Ador??? no biz owner is crazy to put a snake as co-ceo after everything she put them through. and u also somehow missed the part where each Hybesub label, except for Ador, is already divided into two: management and production so you dont have to demand co ceos when the sublabel is already divided into 2 functional teams. it's only Ador, under MHJ, who has combined roles of ceo and producer. Even after she was fired as ceo, and was offered as producer with new terms, she still demands to be both Ceo and producer-and this was also demanded by newjeans to have both management and production combined. and u also want MHJ to serve as producer for a longer time and not until the rejected offer of until nov 1 2024?? if u were a biz owner, would u still want a snake to be associated with ur company for a longer time?? absolutely no. Bernie also said that Hybe should incentivize key people from day 1 by giving company shares as they are the ones who build the company while emphasizing that MHJ had to borrow money to buy Ador shares. this panelist again bumped his head and deliberately forget to also say that MHJs "borrowed money" is coming from the pockets of Hybes Chairman Bang Si Hyuk. so essentialy, MHJ got her Ador shares for free at no cost to her bcoz it was Bang Si Hyuk money in the first place. btw, that "borrowed money" needs to be done merely for accounting purposes bcoz shares needs to be purchased at an identifiable cost.. theres no such thing as free/-0- price/share on shareholder records. there should be a price per share. anyway, after everything, will Hybe in the future just give away a sublabel company share on day 1 or year 1 just like what they did to MHJ?? i dont think so anymore. what MHJ did against Hybe and its all sublabels/artists outweighs what genius creativity she may have. Integrity and trust in business always outweighs more than a cent profited. money can be earned and u can always find talent esp those who are waiting to be given a chance.. but trust once broken, its just an exit door from here.
yup, the big 3 stocks plunged too, but the Korean media mislead others to believe only happened to HYBE. People who have no clue about investment would believe the trash news throw at them.
She also reported the court's ruling incorrectly. The judge specifically stated that HYBE had plenty of evidence against mhj to prove what she had done, but since she had signed a contract, the whistle-blower had come forward before she had begun to set her plan in motion, and she hadn't harmed ADOR, the expiration of the contract either had to come first, or HYBE would have to pay the compensation amount in order to fire mhj. What she 'won' was a 2 month injunction that kept HYBE from voting their 80% shares of ADOR at the board meeting, in order to fire mhj. Which only gave HYBE'S lawyers the time to decide what they could legally do, so when the 2 months were up, HYBE was prepared... they replaced 2 of ADOR's Board of Directors (who were her cronie), placed a Co-CEO next to her, and made her the producer of New Jeans. Then, at the next ADOR shareholder's meeting, they voted her out, and since she was no longer a CEO of ADOR, she was no longer entitled to the 18% of shares that were a perk of the job, so she had to relinquish them. We thought that she had only been in it for the money, but gave her the benefit of the doubt and waited. If she had just gone on and done her job as producer, we would have thought, okay, she really does care about the girls, but she did not do her job. Instead, the girls did that live video, demanding that HYBE rehire mhj. This after mhj had been about to set in motion her 3 year old take-over plan, which means that she was still working at SM when she began making that plan. She was, in essence, found guilty with extenuating circumstances. There is, as far as we know, still an ongoing police investigation of mhj, as well as numerous lawsuits filed by HYBE, other businesses under HYBE'S umbrella, and the members of various other girl groups. AND, this is pretty much all we know as undeniable facts ATP. Does this woman still seem to be someone that you would trust enough to rehire? I'm sure that I left out some things, but I'm exhausted and need sleep. However, I agree that you should have not only done your research better, but that you should have found WAY MORE knowledgeable people to interview, and just a bit of free advice... invest in a good investigative reporter. Otherwise, have a hice day, sweetheart! 😊😊😊
@@ZoAnne-lm3tb thank you for your in-depth explanation of the court proceedings. I too took from the judge MHJ had harmed Hype but because of a technicality they Hype couldn't fire her, Ador had too. The courts are so slow and since her reprieve she and new jeans, and her producer friend have been causing havoc on every group in Hybe. I don't understand how the courts can stand by while all these malicious things are going on. Can the Hybe lawyers get a gag order on all parties to not speak publicly until the case is over. It's worth a try. I think the judge can do it.
@@lorainejones41 You're most welcome, and I do hope that I got everything right. As for your suggestion, I've been thinking the same thing, and it's definitely worth a try. But, since the girls were each given paperwork yesterday, perhaps they already did this. 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
@@lorainejones41because courts are objective. If you trust the media with information like this you will not know the whole story. The courts do things by the law not be feelings. Each side can present their own case and I assure you we the public are missing some stuff. New jeans even said on the Livestream we cannot tell you everything
It seems her main interest is not money, but a kinda self entitlement narsistic personality. It is quite scary to have such genius yet with such character employee.
I am disappointed to see that you are only reporting on one side of the controversy. New Jeans are too young to carry the blame, they are being used. The fact that Hybe would take on these optics, shows the seriousness of their intent to not allow a criminal to stay in their midst, poisoning the well and artists. Also, Hybe isn’t against Ador, just MHJ. Did you not read any of the documents? Sloppy reporting. Also, Billboard, shame on you for showing up in this way. What about the bullying of Illit and Le Sserafim? You should have sent Tetris. Hybe would support New Jeans without MHJ given the opportunity. All the groups at Hybe are making money, and the stock will bounce back. All the labels are learning a lesson now. No one will be offered what MHJ got again, she had it made but decided to steal, plain and simple. I expected more from this channel.
At this point New Jeans should just disband. They are not the only idol group under hybe, to demand something like that. They are extremely immature and unprofessional. Not only that they seem to overestimate themselves too much for their own good.
arirang, what a disappointment! your panelists are not even credible commenters on questions of law or investment. both cover the entertainment beat, and neither one is a lawyer nor an investment banker. and you expect them to give knowledgable answers on legal implications of contracts or matters of strategic business management or stock market forecasting & valuations? it's like asking a liz smith to answer questions meant for a warren buffet. also, both were obviously sympathetic to newjeans and min heejin pretending to be objective. arirang, you are supposed to be a professional news organization! such a shame when you could have done better to deliver a more analytical, intelligent, and rational discussion on the min heejin - hybe situation.
I share this opinion as well. This should have represented properly with qualifications on corporate law, policies n regulation in South Korea. If they want to represent some entertainment journalists, they should done more research on data for both sides.
Truth hurts. These guys still know that they are talking about. I think the debate about new jeans and min is part cultural. Western values vs Korean values. Remember new jeans members are not all Korean so don't expect them to act in the Korean way
Intl fans here seem to be way more intelligent and rational compared to some of NJ and MHJ fans with blind faith and that is doing a lot more harm than good in the long run to those girls
Unfortunately a really bad move... Now they've lost all the internacional support... but it will comeback as soon as they stop defending that woman. There are still hope for them.
Not one word about what Min HeeJin did to deserve to be removed as CEO of ADOR. She was outed attempting espionage and a take down of HYBE and to damage BTS, LeSserafim, ILLIT etc. just pretending it’s all evil HYBE this is so disingenuous and bad reporting. HYBE is just defending the company and consequences to MHJ are totally warranted and what ANY company would do.
Because these guys know that people shouldn't be judged by media propoganda. This is all about money so all decisions are likely going to be driven around that
Extremely disappointed in the total one-sided bias. Very poor and unbalanced reporting. Don't any of the Korean media bother to do research or any form of investigative journalism, except to copy from each other and spew so much nonsense? There appears to only be a few honest journalists willing to report in an unbiased form in Korea!! Why didn't you interview people who are actually knowledgeable in business and law?
These people are way more intelligent than this comment board. When millions are at stake the solution is never simple. If people knew anything about big business and stock prices they would realize what they are saying makes no sense. Even hybe knows they cannot easily replace a group responsible for about 14 percent of 2024 profits. Most people are quoting 2023 profits but that is not reflective of current reality
@@suzannebarry6337 when the media people quote 14-18 percent for 2024, they are given access to research reports by stock market analysts that work at investment banks. Normal people like you and I don't have this access. But media connected to financial folks can get this. The finance guys make projections and are usually pretty close. Part of why they are close is that they keep in close contact with management so not to be way off.
Looking to stocks is dumb as making money is first and foremost for traders. Hybe stock is also performing much better than the other big 3, proof that this drama is insignificant to Hybe. How about looking at New Jeans drop in Spotify streams and not charting on Hot 100 in 2024 as evidence how MHJ has hurt New Jeans.
Why would hybe want to reinstate a traitor thief and liar like MHJ? Why would they need to compromise? Neither of these guest considered facts or know anything- obviously 😂. And the group is not that special, entitled brats who should be expecting MHJ to buy their contracts since she ruined them. After two year I unsubscribed this channel - misleading information and biased media. 👋
They will be right, just wait and see. Courts will ignore all the silly brother sister type arguing between min and hybe. Just typical stuff when people fight which have nothing to do with how this will resolve
Maybe a co-ceo situation could work, but not with Min Hee Jin. She's an untrustworthy, manipulative, lying would be thief who got caught before she could execute her plan. She needs to go
New Jeans don't have faith for themself being artist. SOURCE MUSIC and PLEDIS ENT still ALIVE Even they change their OWNER/CEO Their CEO from HYBE now. SM ENT still going even without LEE SO MAN. So who is NEW JEANS ? MHJ TOYS ? SO WHAT ABOUT DANIEL WORDS ?
My Girlfriends back and we're gonna have a party, hey na hey na, my GIRLFRIENDs back. 🎶 Let's celebrate Girlfriends comeback. ❤ The stocks are up because Girlfriends coming back, this guy knows nothing.
Mjh should be out period. Why should people check on you mhj bro... 🙄 And whoever supporting mhj should also go out with her. Nj acting so spoilt, immature, unprofessional... 2 years in the game and being like this. Tch I hope nj pay and get out of this, if they can pay. (K media just don't like hybe, that's what I got to know. The media also want their own peice, if they can't or don't, than they hate.)
Thx Arirang, Bernie n Ben. Esp Ben for being unbiased in evaluating the Min vs Hybe battle. I hope more western journalist will get legit info from Mhj and her team directly instead of haters in social media planted by her adversary. As for the haters here questioning Bernie n Ben lack of expertise in legal, finance, mgt etc etc.. We DONT GIVE A DAMN. As long as we are of sound mind, we can talk all day just about everything under the sun. Ofc I welcome all relevant experts. Let us start with Facial Recognition disability. Then the financial strengths of Hybe to repay their loans. Next the impact of using VJ to boost streaming. I am jeongmal jeongmal excited going into this kind of uncharted waters/topics. It's kind of pre cursor to SK National Assembly QnA time. That itself is a worthy topic... the NA form that was recently submitted. Yummy!
Hybe stock increase now because one of bts member Jin hyung is already done with his military.. And it will keep on increasing because bts members will one by one coming done with their military service 💜💜💜 so i'd say mhnj and nj pls. Get out now of hybe .
Ariang news, you’ve lost me as a viewer. I will never watch this channel again. I don’t mind you reporting facts and being non bias, but your reporting is sloppy and one sided. Are you being paid by MHJ or someone else to take down Hybe? If I’m right, then Hybe is doing something right because they are feared amongst competitors or jealous ppl. So sad..
I think this is the best Hybe should let the go, why cause they're not happy ,they can't see yet what their MoM" was capable to make damaging not only for one band group, but the all company. Isn't blind side how HYBE works whit their kpop bands and they accept their rules why because efforts came whit success and great musicians. Respectfully they should let them go.
This comment is so unintelligent. This fight only happens because there is a lot to lose. Hybe just spent $25 mil to buy a PR firm to help them with this. You don't do any of this if it's not important. What people are saying on this message board makes no sense at all. New jeans is their second biggest money maker.
From now on? Who the hell has paid for everything these pampered princesses have had! They have been brainwashed into thinking they are the be all and end all.
NJ needs to pay to fee to break their contract and GET OUT!! Hybe stocks will rebound when BTS comes back. We don’t want or need CEOs that are trying to Sabotage Hybe and other KPOP groups. They are toxic and need to leave!
I think NJ has the courage to fight Goliath. I think thats a good thing. Where is the artist in a big company? They did their job they brought in the money. HYBE as the compsny just wanted to exoNd do much that they couldnt create a conducive atmosphere. And are actually failing the investors. They fail to handle the situation. That points to poor management on the part of HYBE. Any respect for HYBE has eroded greatly.
I think the commentators were good and tried to be fair and also you can see that there are guns to their heads from both Pro Hybe and the fans. Really refkects poorly on the state of entertainment industry particularly how controlled the discussion is.
Are you for real? It's so one sided. They also forgot to mention the big 3 stocks plunged more than HYBE. They are brainwashed you to believe one side because they didn't list all the context. They can only brainwashed people who have no knowledge how stocks are affected.
The point is that time is against mhj. Because bts returns is getting closer day by day and when they all comes back the stocks will insanelly rises, with ou without this mhj drama. So she needs to force a agrement asap, because if the legal battle gets a long time it will be too late for any agreement...
@@DxModel219If that's the case the big 3 are already in trouble because HYBE have other labels under them, and the big 3 don't. Why do you think HYBE acquired so many labels and investing in other stuffs? So they don't have to solely rely on BTS. The big 3 still exist after decades so HYBE will be fine.
@@Sasal99l unfortunatelly I expect a long hiatus due to a long legal battle and, in the end, after a few years, even if mhj won and they could keep the brand name and rights, people will had moved on to the next gg. The gg stans (mainly the international ones) always switch their favorites girlgroups in a few years. Until the end of the legal battle, they will already moved on to others new groups... At this point, the only way to mhj is making an agrement before 2025 june. After that, I agree with you, hybe will not have any reason to make an agrement. Cause hybe will be surfing on bts money again...
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Why would they want to take back someone who plotted to take over Hybe/BigHit and destroy other artists careers? I've nothing against New Jeans at all, I wish them well but they need to realise they can go on without MHJ
New jeans needs to leave Hybe and their last comeback underperformed globally anyway so I don’t know why they acting all mighty
Co-CEO?? No way, she had ill intentions toward Hybe since the beginning; she should never be anywhere near BTS by the time they are back.
Shareholders are far more important than BTS or the CEO. The stock has not been doing well since.
Agree! MHJ should never be anywhere near BTS. And she tanked the stocks on purpose in attempt to take over Adore. She needs to be out!
@@chihuang422 Don’t know… but Hybe needs growth. They can’t keep relying on BTS. We shall see but Shareholders like to see growth… they do not like to see loss of revenues or negative growth
@@DxModel219stock only goes up when bts announces the release of music, wins huge awards, getting a billboard #1 meanwhile min heejins and her group are always causing stocks to plummet, one group has to keep saving hybe from financial losses while the other almost always brings drama to the label & makes stocks drop
They act like HYBEs stocks are the only ones down… they know nothing about the market. Besides the stock holders are not worried and know it’s going to rebound! Also how dumb can you be to even suggest allowing MHJ to stay within the company or “co” anything after all that she has done ?? What kind of trip are you on ?? Obviously a pity-party one because the sweet little girls may have come to their demise because of their FORMER CEO .. you know , the one that loves them so much she used them as shields to protect herself. Pfft 🤦🏻♀️
Arenas? Bts sell out stadiums around the world babe. That Jeff dude is always weird towards them 🙄
Do these Koreans know how big BTS is in the global world???
SOLD OUT stadium concert tickets in less than 10min. during LYS Era n specifically an ex. was NYC-NJ state wen a day added to the Tour.
I wonder why all korean related media making reports in favor of Min Hee Jin. Only few independant korean reporters are reporting the related issues with facts and common sense. This just tells that this isn't just Min Hee Jin acting alone. I think something huge is backing up Min Hee Jin aside from Maccoll consulting.
Ikr. I think most SK medias are looking down on Hybe because it comes from underdog status. They will always watch at you in detail and ready to throw shit whenever something goes wrong. Besides, the chairman is not good looking, charming or even can communicate well either...visual image is very important in SK.
@@wildlotus4339 You almost got me. This is definitely not about the looks of Bang PD. 😂
@@coleslow5519 Maybe tho. We know how SK people are so obsessed with image, especially visual.
@@wildlotus4339 Don't believe anything internet people say.
@@wildlotus4339 That's the same lie as all americans have guns.😂
MHJ and NJ get out of hybe
People can we please stop acting like HYBE has to do what NewJeans wants because they are making good money for the company. Do you know the old saying in the west, You cant let the inmates run the prison. If HYBE brought back MHJ as a Co-CEO they would have opened the flood gates of future problems with Idols that are not happy. BTS ARMY built HYBE so I think they have spoken on this situation they want MHJ gone for good. Plus J Hope is about to return in a few weeks then the other members are just months out.
This channel is anti-Hybe and the reporters are betting that MHJ will come out on top and think her favor will mean something. I hope she doesn’t, that would be a bad message and invite more crimes in the workplace. Do what she did within your own workplaces and see how your company would react.
Thanks saving for my precious 23 minutes... All the guest kpop journalists invited are all SM journalists I mean pro SM which is also pro mhj...
Agree with you
Don’t be surprised, it’s a known fact Korean journalism isn’t real journalism, they can be bought and will always bring their bias, let’s not forget what they did to the parasite actor. They lied on his name and painted him as a bad guy and never owned up to their doings until someone passes
Panelist Bernie use of stock price valuation as ultimate measure is a very poor way of showing of what the shareholders view of Hybe-MHJ issue. There are diff variables that affect stock prices esp in post covid era when countries suffer high inflation and big major acts are in hiatus. all other k-entertainment companies, who doesnt even have a mhj -like issue, have suffered more decreases than Hybe.
This Panelist also greatly missed why Hybe wanted MHJ out in the first place.with all the issues surrounding betrayal of trust, steps to takeover a sublabel, and leaking confidential company info for shamanistic management, not to mention her false accusations of plagiarisms towards ILLIT, obsessiveness to have nwjns first gg, and her attempts to bribe BTS accountant for financial info with burning desire to lock BTS in military and use BTS absence to poach what she doesnt own.. all those public defamations/slanders, her media play of BTS cult allegations and sajaegi to hit Hybe/BTS image... all of these and still you want Hybe to settle with her as Co-CEO of Ador??? no biz owner is crazy to put a snake as co-ceo after everything she put them through. and u also somehow missed the part where each Hybesub label, except for Ador, is already divided into two: management and production so you dont have to demand co ceos when the sublabel is already divided into 2 functional teams. it's only Ador, under MHJ, who has combined roles of ceo and producer. Even after she was fired as ceo, and was offered as producer with new terms, she still demands to be both Ceo and producer-and this was also demanded by newjeans to have both management and production combined. and u also want MHJ to serve as producer for a longer time and not until the rejected offer of until nov 1 2024?? if u were a biz owner, would u still want a snake to be associated with ur company for a longer time?? absolutely no.
Bernie also said that Hybe should incentivize key people from day 1 by giving company shares as they are the ones who build the company while emphasizing that MHJ had to borrow money to buy Ador shares. this panelist again bumped his head and deliberately forget to also say that MHJs "borrowed money" is coming from the pockets of Hybes Chairman Bang Si Hyuk. so essentialy, MHJ got her Ador shares for free at no cost to her bcoz it was Bang Si Hyuk money in the first place. btw, that "borrowed money" needs to be done merely for accounting purposes bcoz shares needs to be purchased at an identifiable cost.. theres no such thing as free/-0- price/share on shareholder records. there should be a price per share. anyway, after everything, will Hybe in the future just give away a sublabel company share on day 1 or year 1 just like what they did to MHJ?? i dont think so anymore.
what MHJ did against Hybe and its all sublabels/artists outweighs what genius creativity she may have. Integrity and trust in business always outweighs more than a cent profited. money can be earned and u can always find talent esp those who are waiting to be given a chance.. but trust once broken, its just an exit door from here.
yup, the big 3 stocks plunged too, but the Korean media mislead others to believe only happened to HYBE. People who have no clue about investment would believe the trash news throw at them.
She also reported the court's ruling incorrectly. The judge specifically stated that HYBE had plenty of evidence against mhj to prove what she had done, but since she had signed a contract, the whistle-blower had come forward before she had begun to set her plan in motion, and she hadn't harmed ADOR, the expiration of the contract either had to come first, or HYBE would have to pay the compensation amount in order to fire mhj. What she 'won' was a 2 month injunction that kept HYBE from voting their 80% shares of ADOR at the board meeting, in order to fire mhj. Which only gave HYBE'S lawyers the time to decide what they could legally do, so when the 2 months were up, HYBE was prepared... they replaced 2 of ADOR's Board of Directors (who were her cronie), placed a Co-CEO next to her, and made her the producer of New Jeans. Then, at the next ADOR shareholder's meeting, they voted her out, and since she was no longer a CEO of ADOR, she was no longer entitled to the 18% of shares that were a perk of the job, so she had to relinquish them. We thought that she had only been in it for the money, but gave her the benefit of the doubt and waited. If she had just gone on and done her job as producer, we would have thought, okay, she really does care about the girls, but she did not do her job. Instead, the girls did that live video, demanding that HYBE rehire mhj. This after mhj had been about to set in motion her 3 year old take-over plan, which means that she was still working at SM when she began making that plan. She was, in essence, found guilty with extenuating circumstances. There is, as far as we know, still an ongoing police investigation of mhj, as well as numerous lawsuits filed by HYBE, other businesses under HYBE'S umbrella, and the members of various other girl groups. AND, this is pretty much all we know as undeniable facts ATP. Does this woman still seem to be someone that you would trust enough to rehire? I'm sure that I left out some things, but I'm exhausted and need sleep. However, I agree that you should have not only done your research better, but that you should have found WAY MORE knowledgeable people to interview, and just a bit of free advice... invest in a good investigative reporter. Otherwise, have a hice day, sweetheart! 😊😊😊
@@ZoAnne-lm3tb thank you for your in-depth explanation of the court proceedings. I too took from the judge MHJ had harmed Hype but because of a technicality they Hype couldn't fire her, Ador had too. The courts are so slow and since her reprieve she and new jeans, and her producer friend have been causing havoc on every group in Hybe. I don't understand how the courts can stand by while all these malicious things are going on. Can the Hybe lawyers get a gag order on all parties to not speak publicly until the case is over. It's worth a try. I think the judge can do it.
@@lorainejones41 You're most welcome, and I do hope that I got everything right. As for your suggestion, I've been thinking the same thing, and it's definitely worth a try. But, since the girls were each given paperwork yesterday, perhaps they already did this. 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
@@lorainejones41because courts are objective. If you trust the media with information like this you will not know the whole story. The courts do things by the law not be feelings. Each side can present their own case and I assure you we the public are missing some stuff. New jeans even said on the Livestream we cannot tell you everything
seems we have a MHJ apologist. MHJ's greed is the start of all this mess. SHe needs to go
It seems her main interest is not money, but a kinda self entitlement narsistic personality. It is quite scary to have such genius yet with such character employee.
It seems this host can't believe BTS is as big as Kate Perry, lol!! Hello, do u really know how big and popular BTS is in the global market??
I skimmed through? Is it the lady?
I am disappointed to see that you are only reporting on one side of the controversy. New Jeans are too young to carry the blame, they are being used. The fact that Hybe would take on these optics, shows the seriousness of their intent to not allow a criminal to stay in their midst, poisoning the well and artists. Also, Hybe isn’t against Ador, just MHJ. Did you not read any of the documents? Sloppy reporting. Also, Billboard, shame on you for showing up in this way. What about the bullying of Illit and Le Sserafim? You should have sent Tetris. Hybe would support New Jeans without MHJ given the opportunity. All the groups at Hybe are making money, and the stock will bounce back. All the labels are learning a lesson now. No one will be offered what MHJ got again, she had it made but decided to steal, plain and simple. I expected more from this channel.
Exactly
At this point New Jeans should just disband. They are not the only idol group under hybe, to demand something like that. They are extremely immature and unprofessional. Not only that they seem to overestimate themselves too much for their own good.
arirang, what a disappointment! your panelists are not even credible commenters on questions of law or investment. both cover the entertainment beat, and neither one is a lawyer nor an investment banker. and you expect them to give knowledgable answers on legal implications of contracts or matters of strategic business management or stock market forecasting & valuations? it's like asking a liz smith to answer questions meant for a warren buffet. also, both were obviously sympathetic to newjeans and min heejin pretending to be objective. arirang, you are supposed to be a professional news organization! such a shame when you could have done better to deliver a more analytical, intelligent, and rational discussion on the min heejin - hybe situation.
It's unbelievable they asked advice from entertainment journalists.
Yes. These are great points.
I share this opinion as well. This should have represented properly with qualifications on corporate law, policies n regulation in South Korea. If they want to represent some entertainment journalists, they should done more research on data for both sides.
@@Super_Chamchihe is/ was never on point earlier in his career.
Truth hurts. These guys still know that they are talking about. I think the debate about new jeans and min is part cultural. Western values vs Korean values. Remember new jeans members are not all Korean so don't expect them to act in the Korean way
It’s that Min Hee Jin who caused all of these! Made everything toxic and dirty all because of her greed! That is the bottom line!
Why no Co-CEO BECAUSE how can you put a snake back into the group. She is Very Untrustworthy.
I never trust Korean media. HYBE announced GFriend coming back in January 2025.💜👍💜👍
New Jeans need to go, please!!!
NJ should accept that Min is out of HYBE, that's the consequence of what she did.
Intl fans here seem to be way more intelligent and rational compared to some of NJ and MHJ fans with blind faith and that is doing a lot more harm than good in the long run to those girls
Unfortunately a really bad move... Now they've lost all the internacional support... but it will comeback as soon as they stop defending that woman. There are still hope for them.
Maybe
No, they have lost me as a fan.. permanently.
Not one word about what Min HeeJin did to deserve to be removed as CEO of ADOR. She was outed attempting espionage and a take down of HYBE and to damage BTS, LeSserafim, ILLIT etc. just pretending it’s all evil HYBE this is so disingenuous and bad reporting. HYBE is just defending the company and consequences to MHJ are totally warranted and what ANY company would do.
Because these guys know that people shouldn't be judged by media propoganda. This is all about money so all decisions are likely going to be driven around that
If new jeans wants to leave hybe, they need to be ready with 375 million US dollars ( termination of contract)
Extremely disappointed in the total one-sided bias. Very poor and unbalanced reporting. Don't any of the Korean media bother to do research or any form of investigative journalism, except to copy from each other and spew so much nonsense? There appears to only be a few honest journalists willing to report in an unbiased form in Korea!! Why didn't you interview people who are actually knowledgeable in business and law?
These people are way more intelligent than this comment board. When millions are at stake the solution is never simple. If people knew anything about big business and stock prices they would realize what they are saying makes no sense. Even hybe knows they cannot easily replace a group responsible for about 14 percent of 2024 profits. Most people are quoting 2023 profits but that is not reflective of current reality
@@Raydogscan you please explain where you have got your statistics from? What source? I would like to have a look too
@@suzannebarry6337 when the media people quote 14-18 percent for 2024, they are given access to research reports by stock market analysts that work at investment banks. Normal people like you and I don't have this access. But media connected to financial folks can get this. The finance guys make projections and are usually pretty close. Part of why they are close is that they keep in close contact with management so not to be way off.
@@Raydogs thanks for responding
So interesting how there is no mention of MHJ and the attacks on other artists. Biased reporting!
Exactly
Exactly the harrasments deadthreads and more they skip it. probably because it came from New Jeans and NCT /SM
Looking to stocks is dumb as making money is first and foremost for traders. Hybe stock is also performing much better than the other big 3, proof that this drama is insignificant to Hybe. How about looking at New Jeans drop in Spotify streams and not charting on Hot 100 in 2024 as evidence how MHJ has hurt New Jeans.
Let them leave. Hybe does not lose anything if they will be out ftom HYBE. MHJ and NJ are just making trouble to Hybe.
Why would hybe want to reinstate a traitor thief and liar like MHJ? Why would they need to compromise? Neither of these guest considered facts or know anything- obviously 😂. And the group is not that special, entitled brats who should be expecting MHJ to buy their contracts since she ruined them. After two year
I unsubscribed this channel - misleading information and biased media. 👋
NJ, total disrespect like they are the hottest KPop group in. They better handle the blow back.
Disappointing comments from this panel!
This interview said a lot of word salad of nothing. Waste of time listening to them. All their comments have ulterior motives.
They will be right, just wait and see. Courts will ignore all the silly brother sister type arguing between min and hybe. Just typical stuff when people fight which have nothing to do with how this will resolve
Корейские СМИ и корейские критики просто позорище. Что они несут это выглядит глупо. Только позорят свою страну. Им за это платят что-ли.
That was all because Hybe was all out backing them up! And that crazy b wants more
Maybe a co-ceo situation could work, but not with Min Hee Jin. She's an untrustworthy, manipulative, lying would be thief who got caught before she could execute her plan. She needs to go
New Jeans don't have faith for themself being artist. SOURCE MUSIC and PLEDIS ENT still ALIVE Even they change their OWNER/CEO Their CEO from HYBE now. SM ENT still going even without LEE SO MAN. So who is NEW JEANS ? MHJ TOYS ? SO WHAT ABOUT DANIEL WORDS ?
My Girlfriends back and we're gonna have a party, hey na hey na, my GIRLFRIENDs back. 🎶 Let's celebrate Girlfriends comeback. ❤ The stocks are up because Girlfriends coming back, this guy knows nothing.
That will be a great celebration. Time for good energy only
Why they didnt appreciate big solo jk is??
Mjh should be out period. Why should people check on you mhj bro... 🙄
And whoever supporting mhj should also go out with her.
Nj acting so spoilt, immature, unprofessional... 2 years in the game and being like this. Tch
I hope nj pay and get out of this, if they can pay.
(K media just don't like hybe, that's what I got to know. The media also want their own peice, if they can't or don't, than they hate.)
I’m not K-pop fan. Only I know care is bts. They changed my life
They can leave
Not excited for Jin? Not surprised!
The global ambassador
Thx Arirang, Bernie n Ben. Esp Ben for being unbiased in evaluating the Min vs Hybe battle. I hope more western journalist will get legit info from Mhj and her team directly instead of haters in social media planted by her adversary. As for the haters here questioning Bernie n Ben lack of expertise in legal, finance, mgt etc etc.. We DONT GIVE A DAMN. As long as we are of sound mind, we can talk all day just about everything under the sun. Ofc I welcome all relevant experts. Let us start with Facial Recognition disability. Then the financial strengths of Hybe to repay their loans. Next the impact of using VJ to boost streaming. I am jeongmal jeongmal excited going into this kind of uncharted waters/topics. It's kind of pre cursor to SK National Assembly QnA time. That itself is a worthy topic... the NA form that was recently submitted. Yummy!
No you start the conversation with #1 MHJ tried to remove ador without penalty please keep facts in line
Who care they can leave
Hybe stock increase now because one of bts member Jin hyung is already done with his military.. And it will keep on increasing because bts members will one by one coming done with their military service 💜💜💜 so i'd say mhnj and nj pls. Get out now of hybe .
Ariang news, you’ve lost me as a viewer. I will never watch this channel again. I don’t mind you reporting facts and being non bias, but your reporting is sloppy and one sided. Are you being paid by MHJ or someone else to take down Hybe? If I’m right, then Hybe is doing something right because they are feared amongst competitors or jealous ppl. So sad..
ARIRANG what a joke.. you're on MHJ payroll. one sided story. panelists? LOL. try harder. this can be a good comedy show.
What about Jin
Why is your description in Korean?
I think this is the best Hybe should let the go, why cause they're not happy ,they can't see yet what their MoM" was capable to make damaging not only for one band group, but the all company. Isn't blind side how HYBE works whit their kpop bands and they accept their rules why because efforts came whit success and great musicians. Respectfully they should let them go.
They need to go all of them
MHJ OUT!
I wonder why bighit still under hybe, when they can make sales bigger than hybe
Bighit is 100% independent of Hybe. So even if Hybe multi label system fails BH artists wont be affected.
HYBE has nothing to lose how you live under HYBE roof demanded HYBE to please you
This comment is so unintelligent. This fight only happens because there is a lot to lose. Hybe just spent $25 mil to buy a PR firm to help them with this. You don't do any of this if it's not important. What people are saying on this message board makes no sense at all. New jeans is their second biggest money maker.
NJ and MHJ OUT from HYBE
Min hee jin is out snd stuck up entitled princess Newjeans is gonna disband hurray 😊
Not Jeff Benjamin
Yes I’m looking forward to 2NE1 too
People talking here have no understanding of the issue at hand. That's what I see. 😑
So sad for mhj but i’ll support new jeans whatever it takes❤hybe please treat well new jeans from now on😢
From now on? Who the hell has paid for everything these pampered princesses have had! They have been brainwashed into thinking they are the be all and end all.
Kid, don't let MHJ brainwash you like she did to NJ.
Did hybe mistreat them? Hello,?
They used hybe/bts money.
NJ needs to pay to fee to break their contract and GET OUT!! Hybe stocks will rebound when BTS comes back. We don’t want or need CEOs that are trying to Sabotage Hybe and other KPOP groups. They are toxic and need to leave!
The comments on this video are why people think KPop fans are morons. Did any of you even watch it? LOL.
I think NJ has the courage to fight Goliath. I think thats a good thing. Where is the artist in a big company? They did their job they brought in the money. HYBE as the compsny just wanted to exoNd do much that they couldnt create a conducive atmosphere. And are actually failing the investors. They fail to handle the situation. That points to poor management on the part of HYBE. Any respect for HYBE has eroded greatly.
HYBE-MIN? What was that?
MIN HEE JIN NEW JEANS GET OUT IN HYBE
MHJ and NJ get OUT ftom HYBE.
MHJ and NJ get out of Hybe!!!
5:58 you know nothing old man
MHJ out
hahahaha new jean not that great and hybe just let go of adore company if new jean want there ceo back omg borining like always
I think the commentators were good and tried to be fair and also you can see that there are guns to their heads from both Pro Hybe and the fans. Really refkects poorly on the state of entertainment industry particularly how controlled the discussion is.
This is a very good reporting analysts news! I love the objective breakdown! And I agree the stock and shareholders will guide the company
Are you for real? It's so one sided. They also forgot to mention the big 3 stocks plunged more than HYBE. They are brainwashed you to believe one side because they didn't list all the context. They can only brainwashed people who have no knowledge how stocks are affected.
The point is that time is against mhj. Because bts returns is getting closer day by day and when they all comes back the stocks will insanelly rises, with ou without this mhj drama. So she needs to force a agrement asap, because if the legal battle gets a long time it will be too late for any agreement...
@@Sasal99l Shareholders look for growth and future product in the pipeline. If Hybe relies just on BTS they are in trouble
@@DxModel219If that's the case the big 3 are already in trouble because HYBE have other labels under them, and the big 3 don't. Why do you think HYBE acquired so many labels and investing in other stuffs? So they don't have to solely rely on BTS. The big 3 still exist after decades so HYBE will be fine.
@@Sasal99l unfortunatelly I expect a long hiatus due to a long legal battle and, in the end, after a few years, even if mhj won and they could keep the brand name and rights, people will had moved on to the next gg. The gg stans (mainly the international ones) always switch their favorites girlgroups in a few years. Until the end of the legal battle, they will already moved on to others new groups... At this point, the only way to mhj is making an agrement before 2025 june. After that, I agree with you, hybe will not have any reason to make an agrement. Cause hybe will be surfing on bts money again...
I think its good that she challenged the system. HYBE like any other business should be held accountable.
Remember, the girls of New Jeans are young. They don't know any better.
They are well instructed