Extreme vocals пение на гране возможностей c (with) Franco Tenelli

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  • Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024

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  • @TenelliVoiceGuru
    @TenelliVoiceGuru  11 лет назад +3

    a.
    Mechanical movement of appoggio is well known:Low abs create a push from below up, if diaphragm is totally passive the only opposition is created by vocal chords impedance(resistance). In this case to sing chiaro scuro(big projective voice) is very dangerous.Chiaro-scuro is possible at least when diaphragm has some opposition to low push but it's not appoggio yet, because appoggio implies active and strong opposition of the D.
    This opposition is developed through phonation not separately tbc

  • @myrtomusic1559
    @myrtomusic1559 9 лет назад +4

    Amazing .Thank you so much !

  • @zuraiashvili8106
    @zuraiashvili8106 11 лет назад +2

    Thank you very much for all your time and wonderful responses! thank you!

  • @sinkeo789phommachack9
    @sinkeo789phommachack9 Год назад

    Thanks 🙏 for teaching how to sing high head voice

  • @TenelliVoiceGuru
    @TenelliVoiceGuru  13 лет назад +2

    @124235 1. "if you can sing opera you can sing anything". :) it is true in case when the student knows other styles. Most opera singers, though, are unfortunatly limited to opera only.
    After "D" I can't connect chest and head resonance anymore, I can continue in falsetto, but that's a different tone.
    Low larinx makes a voice more powerful and darker. You can achieve high notes without low larinx(It's even easier) but they will be diconnected from the low body. Singing with the mike changes...

  • @TenelliVoiceGuru
    @TenelliVoiceGuru  15 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the comment.
    I believe in stable larinx, that's not just my believe but science of singing supports that as the most advance way to maintain integrity in voice in classical singing.
    The power is partly nature, partly technique. I use lower then usual larinx position that suits my nature well.
    High notes depend on good support and in many ways on psycology.
    One must defeat the notion to be scared and enjoy high notes as much as the middle register

  • @steakopera
    @steakopera 15 лет назад

    Thank you, your advise and your video have help me. I just sang some Bb and it's much better now. One of my problem is I tend to forget to support and tried to make quick fix without having any patience. If you don't mind I would like to share some of my recordings in the future. Thank you again.

  • @sofiamolina9853
    @sofiamolina9853 2 года назад

    Bella technique. Dai Lezioni?

  • @PDXVoiceTeacher
    @PDXVoiceTeacher 12 лет назад

    wonderful demonstration Maestro Tenelli!

  • @TenelliVoiceGuru
    @TenelliVoiceGuru  11 лет назад +10

    if you want to be a solo singer, sure,
    of course I'd suggest to move out of choir to all wanna be solo singers as you. Choir suppresses confidence of an individuality and develops mass oriented mentality

    • @bradleymonroe6443
      @bradleymonroe6443 5 лет назад

      I am working on being a solo singer for sure.

    • @Бриндулэн
      @Бриндулэн 3 года назад

      Здравствуйте!!!!
      Хочу у Вас учиться пению!!!
      Научите меня петь, пожалуйста!!!!!
      Я тенор,проучился 9 лет
      4 года в училище и 5 лет в консерватории,но полного диапазона так и нет, си бемоль уже с трудом, а си и до уже в мечтах.
      Так же нет выносливости допеть до конца арию.😭
      А ведь пение, это смысл моей жизни

  • @TotalSinging
    @TotalSinging 14 лет назад

    @Arythmnmaker1 - "otherwise" refers to other contemporary vocal programs out there for modern singer NOT anything to do with classical training.

  • @marhomist
    @marhomist 14 лет назад

    Bravisimo!Maestro!

  • @WMP777
    @WMP777 11 лет назад

    Wonderful demonstration.

  • @TenelliVoiceGuru
    @TenelliVoiceGuru  14 лет назад

    @flaze3 show me where exactly(minites/seconds). I don't believe one should open more. One should keep a consistant space, determined by position of the larinx, and accoustic ambiance determined by low, unchanged position of the larinx.
    This position placed not by forsing larinx down, but relaxed yawn and strong supportive muscules:Low abdomenals and diaphragm.

  • @steakopera
    @steakopera 15 лет назад +1

    Thank you for your reply. I believe your description or your theory is well-intergrated with your actual demonstrations. Another question I have is that I am a tenor and my high Bb is not stable. My B and C is easier. I feel there is another shift or passagio on Bb. If you have experience similarities, could you give an advise. Thank You again.

  • @zuraiashvili8106
    @zuraiashvili8106 11 лет назад +1

    Thank you so much for such a quick response! I understand what you mean now maestro. I have a naturally big voice and if i support it fully then it becomes too damn loud as chords close fully. Thats why private teachers classified me as a tenor because my voice is much tenorish in timbre. What do you suggest for my case maestro, do i continue singing as a bass in choir? because they ask me to sing with my head down in order to gain throat resonance and sound bassish, which is not comfortable.

  • @TenelliVoiceGuru
    @TenelliVoiceGuru  13 лет назад

    @primohomme In fact almost evry tenor thinks the same about "Celeste Aida" but only before he actualy tries it.
    It's dificult not because of the range, but because of the tessitura and ranged passages getting right on passagio notes and sustained Bb. Another difficulty this aria creates for Radames, that without warm up he tackles a major aria.

  • @TenelliVoiceGuru
    @TenelliVoiceGuru  11 лет назад

    if you watched my last videos on how timbre and strength effect your Opera FACH, you will understand that in order to find your FACH & Stile( they are very much connected) you have to have all the components taken into a consideration(Color, strength, range)
    If I fool around pretending I'm an amator singer and audition for a choir I will be excepted as a baritone or even bass but never as a tenor(because as a tenor I will be too loud for choir needs)
    Choir category is always misleading

  • @TenelliVoiceGuru
    @TenelliVoiceGuru  11 лет назад

    b.
    Appoggio is very physical on the body and takes time to ease tension in it but immidiatly can take unnecessarily pressures from the vocal folds(chords).
    Appoggio singer feels tension in the chords and immediately fixes with counter pressure of the diaphragm. Experienced singer does it almost automatically except for extreme notes of his range.
    Real appoggio singer even with a big voice never forces it.
    As for how question: there are 2 ways:1.finding a good teacher or 2.experimentation

  • @flaze3
    @flaze3 14 лет назад +1

    I notice when you cross the 'passagio area', there is a definite shift in timbre. It is perfectly acceptable of course, and you sound excellent. But in order to get those higher notes, it seems to me that you open your throat more, and the larynx pivots. No?

  • @steakopera
    @steakopera 15 лет назад +1

    Boy that really is an "extreme vocals". If I may ask you, when you sing 2 octave excercises, how do you sustain the high notes? What do you do with your larynx? and how do you make it sound so strong and solid? Not everyone has innate talent as you have. I'll be honored to discuss it with you.

  • @arbussantoro4889
    @arbussantoro4889 11 лет назад

    Very impressive!

  • @evandrofreitas8736
    @evandrofreitas8736 6 лет назад

    Amazing voice

  • @TenelliVoiceGuru
    @TenelliVoiceGuru  13 лет назад

    @Arfat yes, it does:) but only upto "d" not higher

  • @cici2288
    @cici2288 14 лет назад

    madlobaaaaa,gaixare.ufali gfaravdes

  • @RadogastBrown
    @RadogastBrown 10 лет назад

    Добрый день господин Тенелли!) Вы написали, ниже,что ИСПОЛЬЗУЕТЕ ПОЛОЖЕНИЕ Larynx БОЛЕЕ НИЗКОЕ ЧЕМ,ЧЕМ ПРИРОДНОЕ,ЧТО ПОДХОДИТ К ВАШЕМУ ТИПУ ГОЛОСА. А вот для Full Lyric тенора надо делать то же самое ?? Или другая техника? спасибо)

  • @ArfooHuroo
    @ArfooHuroo 13 лет назад

    does that all feel like chest voice on the top notes?

  • @TotalSinging
    @TotalSinging 14 лет назад

    @Arythmnmaker1 - I did buy a house with the money I made. But the car is the only thing I still own.

  • @TenelliVoiceGuru
    @TenelliVoiceGuru  15 лет назад +1

    Nado poniat' chto vneshnie dvijenie jivota ne obiazatel'ny. Mnogo uchitelej sovetuiut podtianut' jivot, zadaite prostoj vopros? pochemu?
    Objektivnue issledovania pokazuvaiut chto pri khoroshem vocal'nom dykhanii dejsvuiut dve sily.
    1. Sjimaet legkie(myshzy jivota)
    2.Ballansiruet(Diafragma)
    Moi lichnye oshushenia: dvijenia vniz kak pri vdokhe.
    Chem vyshe nota tem nije oshiushenia
    Starye uchitelia govorili "peite zvuk", eto metafora no ona obiasniaet chto oni toje dumali o dvijenii vniz

  • @TenelliVoiceGuru
    @TenelliVoiceGuru  13 лет назад +1

    @sallpario Все гласые образуются в области маски и рта поэтому они сами по себе не могут ни открытыми ни закрытыми. Если певец не меняет низкой позиции гортани во время пения и при этом правильно держит звук-это открытая глотка. Гласная "А" у неопытных певцов при пении переходных задирает глотку.

  • @TotalSinging
    @TotalSinging 14 лет назад

    @Arythmnmaker1 - No this is called "The Science of Singing" not "science of opera singing". Franco is also a contemporary singer having done covers by Led Zeppelin. Its your snobbery that only see things in an opera point of view. I am coming from a vocal technique perspective NOT a this or that genre POV. Thats your bag.

  • @TotalSinging
    @TotalSinging 14 лет назад

    @Arythmnmaker1 - fine but where is that "power" now. What did you do with it. I at least proved my skills one a daily basis in front of thousands of people.

  • @TenelliVoiceGuru
    @TenelliVoiceGuru  11 лет назад +1

    d.
    It's useless to describe appoggio just in words. Images are doing the better job but also not always working:"Think low when you sing higher" "Goin to bathroom", "Filling up the balloon in the belly area" etc...
    but these are individual sensations of the singers that proposed that and you will never feel exactly the same, though it can be close to described images

  • @steakopera
    @steakopera 15 лет назад

    You are right I mess with it alot on Bb because I feel the resonance on A natural and lose it on Bb, it's only half step. Even when I establish Bb, it sounds and feels straight, bit without natural vibrato and it seems not loud enough and cannot sustain it long enough. I hope I am not bothering you too much. =)

  • @flaze3
    @flaze3 14 лет назад

    @TenelliVoiceGuru Well at 1:02, you prepare and then soar into the high note. At 1:17, again. 2:08, 2:18-19, 2:35, 2:37, 3_06 et. etc. --and all to different degrees, naturally. As for low, strong support, I don't disagree. However, though one can argue endlessly about internal sensations, I'm not talking about 'forcing' the larynx. I'm talking about its pivot. It's not a new idea...

  • @KirbyPooh
    @KirbyPooh 12 лет назад

    is there any way that i can take lessons from you via skype?? i really want to learn to high notes. one of my high tenor role models is david phelps. and i want to be able to sing properly, with freedom and no strain nor break between my registers. My problem is that i dont know what the right technique is suppose to feel like.

  • @hanj31
    @hanj31 10 лет назад

    how do I develop the full range that you have, I cannot sing low notes very well, I can only sing higher notes! I want to have the range that you have!

    • @Safesaxjosh
      @Safesaxjosh 10 лет назад

      Natia Qetsbaia thank you! that helped! I got one extra note Bb2. Surprisingly getting that low note made my high notes above Eb5 sound a bit better!

  • @romaldinho7
    @romaldinho7 11 лет назад +2

    tenor-profondo )

  • @garanss
    @garanss 15 лет назад

    Correction: from G to c2.

  • @hfdbhg
    @hfdbhg 10 лет назад +1

    куда пропал маэстро? уже год нет движения в его аккаунте

    • @tenellifranco
      @tenellifranco 9 лет назад

      дмитрий гарбовский Что то случилось с моим паролем, не могу заити на него уже 2 года, открыл другой, но на нем очень мало уроков, в основном, мои концерты, композиции, песни и.т.д

  • @TenelliVoiceGuru
    @TenelliVoiceGuru  15 лет назад +1

    I heard you singing, beautiful timbre.
    I think, on Bb you mess with placement. If you think of supporting it better, placement will correct itself. It could be also your accoustical dead spots, when you don't hear yourself well and voice gets disballanced. Of course that just guessing, true analysis an be done upon live sound only:)

  • @TotalSinging
    @TotalSinging 14 лет назад

    @Arythmnmaker1 - I've been singing in bands since I was 17 - so thats over 20 years. I've only been coaching the last couple of years. I had 2 CDs out on Capital Records and have toured throughout Asia and Europe with my bands. Check out my Facebook page for photos from my professional live career in the late 80's and 90's.
    I also have a RUclips channel for my cover band RadiostarNYC with some rehearsal clips of me singing.

  • @TenelliVoiceGuru
    @TenelliVoiceGuru  13 лет назад

    @TenelliVoiceGuru changes the whole thing.

  • @zgs12212012
    @zgs12212012 11 лет назад

    Maestro, can a male sing pop music healthily using appoggio up to Soprano High C in full voice?

  • @TotalSinging
    @TotalSinging 14 лет назад +1

    @Arythmnmaker1 - "Other" contemporary vocal approaches available are usually based off Bel Canto such as "Singing Success". In my opinion they demean true Bel Canto because they do not teach breath support nor projection.
    What you are confusing is opera directed training with vocal technique that applies to EVERY singer no matter their genre. For some reason who believe because someone is not an opera singer they cannot comment on a channel from an opera singer. That's absurd and obnoxious.

  • @romaldinho7
    @romaldinho7 10 лет назад +1

    И вообще, удивительно, у вас внизу ми как и у меня, хотя я баритон, а вы тенор, а говорят, что голоса на терцию отличаются

  • @zuraiashvili8106
    @zuraiashvili8106 11 лет назад

    Maestro, you are hitting high D and then low E right? i have never heard of any tenor who can sing that low they usually sing as low as A, what is the key to this? You also said that ability to sing certain notes is not most important. I can sing from low E to high B-flat. Some teachers tell me i am tenor but my choir director makes me sing as a base. This confuses me a lot, can you share your experience please about this issue? thank you for your time and attention.

    • @livrowland171
      @livrowland171 Год назад

      I'm replying to a very old comment here but... anyway, I had a tenor teacher once who demonstrated to me warm-ups with a strong voice in the same range, around top D and down to a low E, so no it's not unheard of.

  • @quintus1164
    @quintus1164 3 года назад

    How can I contact you?

    • @quintus1164
      @quintus1164 3 года назад

      I’d love to ask you about online lessons and such

  • @TenelliVoiceGuru
    @TenelliVoiceGuru  11 лет назад

    First type of appoggio, sure

  • @TenelliVoiceGuru
    @TenelliVoiceGuru  12 лет назад

    sure, you are using a passive diapgragm support that allows you to pruduce chiaro scuro sound but without it's total control. It seems that you are not applying appoggio yet. Learn how consciensly control your diaphragm, how to lean upon it in singing

  • @TenelliVoiceGuru
    @TenelliVoiceGuru  14 лет назад

    e flat, an octave below tenor's range

  • @TenelliVoiceGuru
    @TenelliVoiceGuru  13 лет назад

    @sallpario Странно но не гласная "А" есть путь к открытию глотки а гласная "У". Если перевести немножко запутанный термин "открытая глотка" на чистую физиологию то это позиция гортани на зевке, т.е. опущеная позиция.

  • @TotalSinging
    @TotalSinging 14 лет назад

    wow the D5 is BIG. I have a powerful D5 but its not as full as that. I'm a baritone and my sound gets thinner past the A4 than it does for Tenors. Would love to have a C5 that full and wide sounding. C5 isn't a problem for me as I can go to C6 in full voice buts nowhere near as "full" sounding. Would that be because I'm a baritone or for some other reason like placement or throat/mouth resonance. Or does it simply need more support to compress the cords and thicken them?

  • @garanss
    @garanss 15 лет назад

    OK,
    very impressive but the best range lies from G to b1, IMHO.

  • @KarolisKasiuba
    @KarolisKasiuba 7 лет назад

    it was high c falseto, not high d!!!!

  • @romaldinho7
    @romaldinho7 10 лет назад

    Вы могли бы исполнить "Как молоды мы были" лучше Градского

    • @romaldinho7
      @romaldinho7 10 лет назад

      там ведь ре на верху

  • @TotalSinging
    @TotalSinging 14 лет назад

    @Arythmnmaker1 - watch?v=2wPCKC7Y7tI

  • @TotalSinging
    @TotalSinging 14 лет назад

    @Arythmnmaker1 - I've been making my living in the music business for 20 years - therefore I am professional. What you said is an insult. One you are not qualified to make. Maestro Tenelli is a professional in a different field of music and singing but he also has a contemporary background. He likes what I do and how I teach - he has said so publicly. You come off sounding like just another opera snob. All this from someone with ZERO channel activity. Where are your singing videos? Hmm???

  • @zuraiashvili8106
    @zuraiashvili8106 11 лет назад

    Maestro, I have heard a lot of suggestions for finding appoggio like, focus your breath in your navel area, lean on diaphragm, lean your larynx against steam of breath, push down with diaphragm, sing as if you were in bathroom and all that kind of stuff but it is all very confusing. Could you please explain what should be done physically to find and maintain appoggio like opening up your ribs while inhaling, contracting some group of muscles that we really feel(I don't feel diaphragm at all).

  • @TotalSinging
    @TotalSinging 14 лет назад

    @Arythmnmaker1 - dude I listened to your singing clips. That is NOT singing at a professional level. Amateur / Karaoke level performances at best.
    I do not teach an Classical/Opera style of singing. Where did you get this idea? I teach contemporary singing. BUT there are certain principles of singing technique that cross all genres. Techniques I am learned in. And THAT is what I an qualified to comment on.
    I don't want to bash on Franco's channel but c'mon dude.

  • @TotalSinging
    @TotalSinging 14 лет назад

    @Arythmnmaker1 - mine clips are rehearsals in a rehearsal studio while we're auditioning prospective band members. They are 100% times better than what you're doing in yours. I'm connected, singing and belting in mix, singing on pitch and not straining at all. You lack all of those qualities in your clips.
    yes I block messages from non-friends or subscribers. Saves time answering dumb questions.
    Dude I sang in front of 15,000 people in Seoul, Korea, put out 2 CDs on Capitol - and you've done?

  • @imPathogenic
    @imPathogenic 13 лет назад

    LOL- if you think is celeste aida is easy i envy you.

  • @TotalSinging
    @TotalSinging 14 лет назад

    @Arythmnmaker1 - I "hang" around this site because I am a student of voice. Or hadn't that thought crossed your closed mind? Only a fool would think he can't learn from all types of singers or techniques.
    Your POV is obnoxious and absurd. I sang classical pieces in my 20's during my training with a Tenor who had performed at the Met here in NYC. Just because I choose to not sing Arias today does not make me incapable of doing so. This from a guy who sings Blood Sweat & Tears - badly.

  • @викторвокс
    @викторвокс 6 лет назад

    наличие вокального комплекса и техническая оснащенность недостаточны для выдающегося пения-необходим обертонально теплый и богатый тембр -часто анатомирование голоса приводит в цирк или к психиатруP.S. ПОЮЩИХ МНОГО-ИЗБРАННЫХ МАЛОP.P.S. Со всем уважением к осознанному пению автора

  • @TotalSinging
    @TotalSinging 14 лет назад

    @Arythmnmaker1 - jealusy does not become you. I did it - isn't that enough? I got signed to a label, toured and played to thousands - and you have done?
    Its easy for someone who's accomplished nothing to try to knock down someone who has. It says a lot about you as a person.
    True we were opening for the main act but you don't get on the bill if you suck. How many units? Enough to buy a $75,000 car. How about you?

  • @giorgi19250
    @giorgi19250 10 лет назад

    zaalishvili nu mariajob shechemisa -- maglebs rom igeb trakshi kuili gepareba maestromac ver gagiketa sagi tavisupali maglebi--- vis aboleb she kvero