Vibrato as part of technique and style and it's types (Correct/Wobble/Tremolo=Caprino)
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- Learn how to understand and control vibrato in different vocal styles of music.
Theory and demonstrations by Franco Tenelli.
If one truly masters appoggio technique (s)he can use different types of vibratos at will.
Every 3 months I come back and watch this video again it's so good
you're a master. Been looking at videos all day you are the first one to SING what is going on instead of just using words.
Thank you.
Exactly!
Started out with no vibrato, and quickly developed what I thought was vibrato, which turned out to be Caprino. Sounded like a clinically insane goat.
Broke that habit when I started taking vocal lessons, sang straight tone. Developed what I thought was natural vibrato after about 2 months of working on technique.
Turns out this time it's vocal wobble. Sounds a lot like vibrato, but it's much too slow.
Back to straight tone, and back to the drawing board. Hope to learn it right this time.
Good luck Andy, just seeing this now.
you're probably a Vibrato pro by now, best wishes!
I think jessie j uses ,caprino and I'm in love with it
Your explanation and demonstration of vibrato is just brilliant. My admiration not only for the talented demonstration,but the intellectual curiosity to spend the time to figure out and find truth.
Ian Kaye
This video and the channel needs a lot more attention!!!!
Just found you by random RUclips recommendation not I’m glad I did!
excellent video, with very musical and pedagogical examples and teachings. A great singer , able to perform in different genres and techniques!
A very informative video! After reading about vibrato (I was worried about how difficult I find it to sing straight for songs that require it stylistically) I learned that wobble was a thing and it's been haunting me since. Now I don't have to worry about that anymore, thank goodness!
As always, excellent video with great examples. This is just the type of videos we need to keep this art of our alive, thank you Tenelli for sharing!
Thanks for the video! My current theory is that all of the best pop singers wield a dynamic vibrato. But like you said, it's rare!
Thank you "maestro". I now understand a lot of things that I do wrong.
You are a great teacher!!! I wish you were here to take singing classes with you.These videos are so helpfull. You are generous sharing your noledge.
Greetings From Argentina
I agree!
Thank you.
Wobble is a slow vibrato used in a negative sense(too slow) however vibrato is always unique and may suit the style or not, especially in classical genres like opera.
Any vibrato is coordination of support(breathing) and vocal chords(folds) closure and it can be consciously controlled by mind.
Again, I wouldn't use the expression:
" Is there a technique or a practice to use the wobble easily?"
because practicing wobble is baad:)
Franco
You have a lovely, resonant voice! :) ...Wow! I tried what you suggested- to straiten out my tone. The back of my tongue wants to help support- which is of course the last thing I want! I've been working hard on developing muscle memory for appoggio breathing. When I tried to sing strait tone, I actually had a natural vibrato! It worked, to release my tongue tension! Thank you so much!
why would you like to control what is already beautiful? The best vibrato is natural vibrato, controlled vibrato is trill.
So you are the one who decides what is beautiful or not. I see. Very open minded.
@@cesar4729 it’s called an opinion, and if you don’t care for his opinion then why even watch his videos?
@@leemccloskey Beauty is subjective. This is fact, not opinion. No one can decide for another that sound or appearance should seem beautiful to him.
He is asserting from a didactic and academic stance, not as a casual opinion.
Another common mistake is saying "it's an opinion" in defense, rather than arguing. Since ... if you think, I also think. So why does only your opinion count? Can you give your opinion but not tolerate someone offering their opinion? "It's an opinion" is self-contradictory, banal, since you try to validate one's freedom of opinion by rejecting the freedom of opinion of another.
Instead, try to refute my arguments.
@@cesar4729 "If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man as it is, infinite.
"For man has closed himself up till he sees all things thro' the narrow chinks of his cavern."
Therefore according to William Blake who writes in "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell" - beauty is reality - reality is infinite - infinite is not subjective because in order to perceive it man must get rid of his assumptions.
@@pugh.joseph I give up. I don't know what to answer to someone who tries to pose that seriously.
"Vesti la Giubba" done with all sorts of different vibrato - very entertaining and informative. Vibrato is best controlled!
I always like singing when I was a child and had a clear voice in the alto line, when I got 16 I was taken to soprano 1 and suddenly I got vibrato 😂 and since I like classical singing I never tried different... then once I tried singing popular music.... CANNOT sing without vibrato 🤣 it’s just too natural to fight it. But I will practice your appogio excercises. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
I'd love to be able to sing like that. Your vibrato is so rich and warm
Wow you have a wonderful voice and controls and amazing vibrato. I wonder why you are not a popular or legendary singer today 💔
@n3v3rd1e No, using appoggio doesn't change the voice alone. Placement or position of the larinx and appoggio together make one's voice sound different. Higher larinx makes brighter and lighter voices in general and lower larinx makes it darker, but not necessarily more powerful if it's not a natural placement and just supressing larinx down. With lower larinx one needs more phisical appoggio in opera otherwise voice it will be supressed and sound woofy
i just started taking voice lessons witha classically trained singer and he is very good. only thing is he speaks solely in korean and its kind of hard to understand the way he explains sometimes. love your videos!
In Italian they call it Caprino(Fast vibrato). Not easy to ballance but possible through correct breathing/support.
there are different ways to produce vibrati via lips or tongue wobble but the healthy way is always "Natural" as interaction between diaphragm and larinx
Your Caprino Vibrato was amazing. I actually really like the caprino vibrato and singers who had it. Like Fernando De Lucia, Giacomo Lauri Volpi, Hipolito Lazaro, Conchita Supervia, Dolgor, Hairlaarai Erdenetungalag, Michael Kiske, Demis Roussos. I would actually like to have a Caprino Vibrato. It would be so cool if you ever sang la donna e mobile or Recondita armonia using your Caprino vibrato. To me there's something really beautiful and powerful about that sound.
Is it just me, or does Tenelli have the same speech-cadence and tone as Christopher Walken? If I close my eyes and imagine Walken using a slight Italian accent, it works! :D
Very interesting video. I used to have that wobble too. And it was because of lack of support . But it is gone since i fixed my support and start to limited my vibrato. Bravo Franco!!! Waiting forward for more videos!!!!.
@n3v3rd1e Appoggio is a ballanced support technique through the range and style one is using.
If one support it's voice throughout needed range without forsing it and without change of a timbre-(s)he is an appoggio singer. Of course a singer needs to develope muscles for it.
Try to move smoothly your jaw and tongue while sustaining the long notes, that will release some tension. Later just imagine the movement
Thanks to your wonderful voice you're really one of the few teachers who can clearly instruct what they're saying through convincing examples.
By the way, that "Something" was great! Would you care to record it in full and post it?
This is all very well explained. An excellent video.
@n3v3rd1e Anybody who sings beautifuly, without forsing and with the consistant timbre is a appoggio singer regarless to the style.
The question is if the opera singer's appoggio is different from , let's say a jazz singer?
The answere is yes
Tenors that want a checkpoint on excessive use of vibrato might want to check Martin Muehle who has quite a pronounced vibrato...almost bordering on a wobble. The younger Muehle had more vibrato...now, I see, more recently he tries to disguise his tendencies by shortening phrases and other similar tricks...plus..a lot of nasal sound. He has a nice, strong tenor voice...a considerable contrast to a lyric tenor like Jörg Schneider...whose voice of late, in my opinion, is unfortunately being somewhat limited by his considerable physique...which is a real shame...he may be the best lyric German tenor since the great Fritz Wunderlich.
I greatly enjoy these fine videos on singing, Maestro Tenelli!
sure, but if you realy want to produce a good chiaro scuro sound, try to stop thinking in terms of registers(Chest, head). Chest voice without squillo will sound woofy. Listen to great masters of appoggio:Caruso, Gigli, Giacomini, Pavarotti. They don't have separation of registers and if they did it was only in their minds:)
I read Eddie Vedder uses caprino vibrato... He's definitely a great example. And I do find it beautiful.. with him anyway. lo. . Wanted to know what it was. Thks!!
@DinDanMee as I see from your comment, you are not a pro singer or teacher:) The term "trapped inside" translates as 'woofy" and you also names great singers with absolutly different schoold of singing like Lemeshev and Caruso. Talking to you will be precise if you identify yourself(your first name and what you do in life) otherwise talking to a voice student who dosn't have any real experience but speaks if he were a pro is timewaisting rediculous thing.
Your posts are so precious to me! Very interesting and very didactic. Grazie!
Thank you for explaining these ideas and terminologies!
still 2020, learning from the teacher 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌 saludos desde argentina !
That's actually a really nice voice
Great teaching, great singing, thanks very much
@bobslove look over Caruso's excercises I posted. Excercises themselves don't help you unsless they are done properly. Try to sing more in the chest and learn how to support it
I read that ideal vibrato is around 5 to 8 vibrations per second...so 4 per second(or, heaven forbid, fewer than that!) constitutes the less attractive wobble, and then 9 or more per sec is a tremolo type...too fast for the best sound. Fortunately, most singers fall within the normal range.
Im actually a 33 years old singer, im a coloratura soprano, but with lack of technique and singing wrong repertoire I developed a wobble, and is awful everytime I heard myself, I feel ashamed of me, because 2 years ago my voice was pretty well... Anyway, I dont understand English spoken very well, so the advice to correct tremolo, caprino and wobble is to sing without vibrato and work in the appogio and the connection of your whole instrument? I unfortunately I dont have cash to pay singing lessons, but I record my voice after singing a phrase to correct the wobble little by little. Well. I will suscribe to your channel. Regards
Oh well, I'm actually gonna ask you a question if that's not a problem. What does vibrato feel like as in sensation? Do you feel pulsing in your larynx or it's more like diaphgram? Do you focus on doing it?
Charles aznavoir vibrato was caprino? It was fast but realllly great
Hello, thank you very much for your videos, they are helpful. I wanted to ask a question about unsteady vibrato, is it due to unsteady air flow? I tryed out singing longer notes without vibrato and have noticed that it is somewhat unsteady as well.
Можно получить эффект "вибрато" контролем положения гортани. Но это не то. Но работает.
There are a couple of factors that I've yet to hear mentioned. That is: does the vibrato start downward or upward in pitch? Does one 'straddle' the given note or stay completely sharp (or flat) during the vibrato?
IMHO 'sharp-going' (sorry, I don't know the Italian term :)) vibratos are the most ANNOYING. To wit: Whitney Houston, Eddie Fisher :)
(Caprino is *definitely* sharp-going!)
U have a wonderful voice!
just wonder gigli when he sing mezza voce ,he used a lot of sul ffiato ,he also change the position of the larynges a lot and also when you used mezza voce you got less vibrato too right?
I think caprino can be quite beautiful when singers are familiar with it!
I am very new to singing and am eager to learn. Trying to start to learn the basics such as proper breathing techniques and etc. How does one develop a vocal vibrato and how do I know that I'm doing it correctly?
Is Semmis Roussos vibrato Caprino? I like his voice but his vibrato is verry fast. I like that.
In Opera singing, Do you think you can use vibrato to "diagnose" poor technique or a "bad day voice"? it happens to me when I hear that someone does not have the vibrato I think (in my opinion), should have naturally, I always end up realizing that those singers have a problem in the uniformity of the voice, dynamics, trills, etc.. An example of this is the great singer Maria Aleida, singing Olympia's Aria watch?v=3dlGDNoliH0
Theoretical answers have little value. Your question is too general
you've got a fast vibrato called caprino. Come to Montreal and I will teach you special breathing tricks to change it
@TenelliVoiceGuru So it's not possible to willingly change timbre of the voice using appoggio? I mean those metal like high pitched screams, which are much thinner.
Also, if you would be able to do appoggio (perfectly balanced support, if i understand it correctly) right away without any previous training, would you be able to go for high C's without change of timbre or would you need some of your muscles to develope to be able to do it?
Thank you for posting this! This is really interesting. :)
Really interesting, thank you !
Hi Franco. My favorite vibrato is how Elvis did it, going from straight tone to vibrato. My last teacher told me it should come natural, but Elvis had vibrato like a switch; off and on. Can i just practice building speed and control between half steps? It seems to be working, but I want to make sure im not damaging myself.
Só tem músicas dos Beatles.
Maestro,
Nice video, very informative.
I'm pretty new with singing and I have a few questions.
Is a throat vibrato healthy?
Can you explain the science of a throat vibrato?
Last question set:
Is resonance in your diaphragm area when you sing a kind of vibration?
Is resonance the same as vibrato?
Does your stomach/diaphragm area actually vibrate when vibrato sound is produced? and if so what is the vibration supposed to feel like?
Thanks in advance maestro!
Hi, intressant video. I have "problem" with a wobbling voice ( cause of my vocal atrophy ? ) Im fond of my normal vibrato. Is there a scale how fast a vibrato is ? What is the normal vibrato like, slow or faster ?
nice lesson
I want to learn caprino just so i can sing "If i were king of the forest!"
I have a question, not about vibrato...if you are using appoggio, can you sing with it some other styles than opera? I mean for example this guy
/watch?v=LjDSAaYSfXk&feature=feedlik sounds really amazing, now question is, can you sound like this using appoggio? and if yes, what is he using...thanks for answering
Franco I think "caprino" is the best vibrato when it happens naturally, which is usually in lighter tneor voices. Why do you think vibrato speed has slowed down with time? If you listen to Caruso, Bjorling, Corelli, and specially Francesco Tamagno (Search for Tamagno's Esultate), and compare them to modern tenors, the modern tenors have like half the speed! Tell me your opinion on why this occurs. I don't like this, I prefer the fast vibrato a lot, that's why I like Tamagno's esultate so much.
Why i never had to work on my vibrato ? I worked on appogio , lowering the larynx and singing in the hung position but i never had a straight tone since i started
Does vibrato occur when you sing normally ?
Dear Mr Tenelli, what is your response to the growing opinion among musicologists that continuous vibrato was a 19th century development? Eg Richard Bethell's research at the University of York, UK.
I am really interested as I am doing my PhD on opera performance history.
Thanks!
Dear Mr. Tenelli, thank you for your helpful video. I would like to hear more about how to fix a "diaphragmatic vibrato." I am a former flute player, and people who play wind instruments learn how to create a vibrato using the diaphragm. I noticed one day when reviewing one of my voice recordings that all amplitudes were "jumping" on one of my high notes and the vibrato did not sound right even though it was not too fast like a tremolo, nor too slow like a wobble. I found another source online that talked about diaphragmatic vibrato and realized yeah, on that high note I was manufacturing it through varying my velocity of breath. I realized from looking at a few of your other videos that I was forcing it because I did not use the proper appogio support for the high note. Would you say that it's mainly the appogio that can resolve the diaphragmatic vibrato?
Tania S. Smith from my experience, there's surprisingly little physical difference between perfect natural vibrato and diaphragm vibrato. What I mean is it's a surprisingly fine line between performing the two, however, the end result is light years away. One is perfect and healthy and the other is harsh on the cords and not beautiful or good.
As natural vibrato is created by the dynamic opposition of the support or inhale and the leaning or exhale or appoggio, and the subsequent freedom in the voice that creates the natural unforced muscular tremor in the larynx, it would make sense that diaphragm vibrato, though horrible and wrong, is not so off the correct road. My theory is diaphragm vibrato occurs from too weak muscles of the support, therefore the support/appoggio balance tips too heavily towards the diaphragm; the diaphragm lacks equal resistance against it, and our mind still wants the vibrato, leading to a pulsing in and out of the exhale muscles, creating the diaphragm vibrato. It can also "creep in" even once developed correct natural vibrato, if you still lack support strength or endurance
Corelli no tuvo vibrano caprino, ese es el tipico vibrato de los tenores spintos porque al usar la fuerza normalmente el vibrato sale disparado.
Observation: romance music without vibrato sounds a bit like flamenco.
I do like me some flamenco.
Personally I mostly sing (and listen to) early and baroque music(excluding modern music I listen to). I only use some vibrato infrequently, for ornamentation, and have a bit of a hate for extreme amounts of it.
Especially sopranos with their high pitched vibrato. My skull literally resonates and it actually hurts to listen to. But it certainly still has its place.
You explained it really well and could muster some excellent examples. Great job.
I would love to take voice lessons as I love to sing, but I'm too shy to sing in front of anyone. I guess it'll never happen.
Sir, you're amazing! I don't have a problem with my vibrato but my wobble seemed to blend with my vibrato. Is that bad? How can I emphasize my wobble without using a vibrato when I am singing? Is there a technique or a practice to use the wobble easily?
tqvm..you are great
I don't thinks so, but you should look to what you've been doing before it happened:That's called an Art of knowing yourself, in that nobody can help you, just point at it
btw. i am learning how to connect my throat/laranyx/vocal chord area better with stomach support since I have been singing with my throat until the present (more pop music style?) are there excercises I can do to better connect for a more fuller and supported sound?
thanks!
it's amazing what you do!but is it normal if when i raise my voice, the vibrato becomes slower, or turns into an uncertain beautyful vibrato that i can't control properly????
if you understand what i mean!
Thank you!)
why do you keep teleporting around?
This video is good and helpful. Your singing is really beautiful, I like it.
By the way, I have a question: Sometimes I see singers have to move and vibrate their lips when they produce vibrato. What is it for and is it really necessary? When I produce vibrato my lips do not move like them. Is it a problem? Thanks so much.
fobt90 lips, tongue, and jaw should all be relaxed and not moving during vibrato. So you are doing it right!
What is the name for the thing that a lot of pop singers do where a single word kind of goes up and down. It can't really be described as a vibrato because it's slower than that, it's more like a slightly wobbly sound. One example would be in Green Day - Time of Your Life... in the chorus it can be heard on the word 'time'. Or a more extreme example is in Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston's way of singing (though I find that too unsubtle). I feel like it should be simple to do and yet it evades me! Can you tell me what it's called? And do you have any videos on that?
Holly Whitbread riffs and runs
hi, I recently joined my college's acapella but I dont have any prior experience with vocal training. They said that I have a strong voice & good pitch. The problem Im trying to fix is my fast vibrato. When I was younger, I tried forcing it and now I'm stuck with it. Right now im tryingto 'slow' it down. I was wondering if you have any particular advice regarding my specific problem? Can you suggest good examples of male singers/tenors that i can learn from(both classical and non-classical)? =)
Very helpful! you're voice is beautiful! Are you italian?
tenellivoiceguru should my diaphragm move during vibrato?
When he tries to sing without vibrato he can't do it.... lol
Me neither and I used to have non.
@@philbertchow5425 how did you fix that?
@@operasingersstorehouse5311 for me it just naturally “crept” into my voice the more I listened to opera and tried to emulate the greats.
I think from a technical perspective it’s about the balance of air pressure above and below the vocal cords though.
11:24 the Baptist Music Leader Vibrato
God, your Canio is beautiful.
You are an amazing teacher.. I have problems with my vibrato.. it's caprino and not tremolo.. I have to work on that..
Hello! You are AMAZING!
I don't know how to make vibrato :(. I sound like a goat :(
May you help me please ? : '(
I'm nor familiar with the research but it's likely to be the truth
Goat vibrato is untrained vibrato and wide vibrato takes more skill. I know because I'm trying to sing heavy metal but my vibrato is too close together you have to develope wider vibrato.
Play the George Harrison song in full.
@righttofeelsafe thanx:)
You can come sing to me anytime!!
I'm from Venezuela :(
hi5!!!
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11:22 - I'm sorry, but that wobble sounds like someone with severe stomach pains! :)