Sorry about that, I really enjoyed the old intro as well but it was a bit long. I think Liga has done a fantastic job on the new one. Really glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for supporting the channel 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure I totally get why you all revamped it. Both are very polished! I wouldn’t know where to start making something like that. I have so much respect for content creators like yourself. Thanks again.
I’m on my second pair of Inov8 trailflys . Incredibly comfy on stoney terrain and also on interlinking road sections. Hard wearing 750 miles out of my first pair. Yes a little heavy but I’ve tried Hokas and they are always a little too narrow for my foot shape. Price - Inov8 have managed discount reductions and paid about £140 - £150 - Higher price I think offset by the durability of the shoe.
I'm really glad you're enjoying your Trailfly ultras and that's great that you're getting good milage in them! Thanks for watching Michael it's appreciated 🙏😊
Yeah its a toughy. I've been in the SpeedGoat 5's now for a bit and completely agree with you on everything you've said. It's tolerable but could be a lot better in mid foot section. Also I enjoy the laces and padded tongue better in the Torrent 2's. Hack: I actually pulled the laces out of one of my old Torrents and using them on the SpeedGoats....They're longer and less strechy so feel like its giving me more support.
Great review. I’ve put 600 miles on my Trailfly’s and happy with their performance. Agree on the lack of padding with the tongue, weight is a little heavy and the price is just too high. I would take the Salomon Ultra Glide over all three of these. I’m on my third pair and have gotten 400+ miles out of my first two.
That's good to hear Nick! 👍 The Ultra Glide is one of my favourites to Nick, it's a great allrounder but I will go up half a size next time around. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Great Vs Loyd. So succinct and well explained for a novices like me. I've been putting too many long trail runs into the saucony peregrine 12s and I'm definitely going to be getting some of the SG5s to see how they compare. Thanks
Really glad you enjoyed the video Sam and you found it helpful! 👍 The SG5'S are very different to the Peregrine but it is a good shoe for distance. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Dear Loyd, thank you for this comparison. I run on Xodus Ultra’s and looking for a little more cushioning, without losing the fit and feel of that awesome Saucony, would the Trailfly G300 be the best of these three to try on? Greetings from the Netherlands, Maarten.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video. The SG's are a great trail shoe for distance, that's for sure! 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
I love the Trail fly but I noticed at around five miles the front started to suddenly ware down very fast, as if I were a top toe runner. To the point that a luck dislodged and split away. Strange as at first they seemed so impressively hardwaring.
Great video as always Loyd! I've enjoyed the inov8 but I agree I wish I'd gone up half a size. Looking forward to trying the speedgoat 5 at some point too. My go to for long distances is actually the inov8 g270 I find that so comfortable I've done a few 20 milers in it and had zero hot spots or blisters
Thanks Aaron 👍 That's great that you've found a shoe for your longer runs that causes you no issues. It's always good when you have one of those. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel mate 🙏😊
After getting on so well with my Hoka road shoes in a wide fit I decided to replace my Inov8 trail shoes with the wide fit Speed Goat 5. Unfortunately they had to go back as they absolutely crush my toes, not a wide fit at all
I definitely found some Altra foot shape shoes want to turn over on my foot when running off camber. An unstructured upper would make that a nightmare. Recon the review was bang on Loyd
Great video Loyd. I so wanted to love the Speedgoat 5’s but the toe box is so frustratingly narrow. Having use Altra’s for a while, it’s so difficult to give up that footshape toe box. I was put off by the mixed reviews of the Mont Blanc so I’ve just purchased the Timp 4’s and absolutely love them. The Ego Max midsole is the most comfortable midsole I’ve experienced so far. I just wish it came with a Vibram megagrip!
Thanks Anthony, glad you enjoyed the video. I totally agree, the Egomax midsole on the Timps is really good! It would definitely benifits from a better outsole but if Altra used Vibram Megagrip on it it would put the pice up quite a bit! 🤔 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Great review Lloyd think I’ll be going for the Salomon ultra glide for this summer if I can find a pair. I’d be very interested in how many miles you get out of the SG5 before they breakdown? Keep up the good and take care
Thanks Andrew, I'm glad you enjoyed the video 😊 The SG5'S are holding up well so far, I've got around 100 miles in them. When I get to around the 200-250 I'll film another review to let everyone know how the SG5's are holding up. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
A great head to head. As an Altra fan & ultra runner I was surprised you pitted the Mont Blanc & not the Olympus 4. I wondered how that w we would have faired. I’ve got the Ham to Lyme 100k coming up & like last year I’ll be wearing the Lone Peak 5👍
Thanks Paul, glad you enjoyed it. The Mont Blanc was so hyped I really wanted to try it, plus the Olympus 4 is an old shoe now and I'm waiting for the 5's 👍 Thanks for watching and good luck with your 100k 🙏😊
Thank you for this video. I was on the hunt for a good trail shoe for walking and speed walking my dogs on challenging terrain. My local 42 Degrees North store didn't have the Inov8 but they had the Hoka Speedgoat 5 and the Altra Mont Blanc so got to test them both out on their treadmill and I must say I'm NOT a fan of the Hoka Speedgoat 5. Can't tie them tight enough for my liking and I didn't like the feel of the midsole or the back of the shoe. The Altra may have that weird heel but it ties up nice and snug and once I started walking the treadmill with speed and incline I REALLY liked them. So I bought them and head straight home to get my dogs and off we went on some steep terrain and I must say I LOVE the Altra Mont Blanc. I noticed very minimal heel slip and that was only on a real steep climb but on the straights and downgrades no slippage what so ever in the heel. I had my heart set on some Inov8 Trail fly but none are in my area. I'm pleased with my new Altra Mont Blanc shoes...
The Ultra Glide is one of my favourites to Ian, great allrounder! I'm looking forward to the Xodus Ultra, looks like it could be a great shoe for distance 🤔 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Could you please review Asics Fuji Lyte, I loved it pretty much better than Speedgoat 5. Their grippy outsole is better than Vibram imo although I've not been in snow/slush only rain and mud and it performed very well completely no slip.
Do you think they will do it in a genuine wide? Normally a wide fit for Hoka just means more volume in the upper, which then just makes lock down hard and your feet still bulge over the side of the foam.
@@marccastle8249 it’s a funny one but I think with Hoka they actually do make the overall width wider but I found with others they just make more fabric/ upper… as you said. I might be wrong or could be a placebo trick on my brain! Think the good thing with the sg5 is that they have got rid of the plastic overlays that restrict any stretch
@@marccastle8249 all that said, I personally love my Altra Mont Blancs … I have worked the fit perfectly, so much so I may buy a second pair (in red) but this time go down 1/2
@@movemorenowjames I’ve watched your reviews and thoughts on the MB’s, and a lot of your other content good stuff 👍 I bought a pair of Clifton 8’s in wide and convinced they were not so bought a pair of standard width and the were the same a baggy upper does not make a wide fit! I raised the issue with Hoka who blanked me which was disappointing… I hope the SG5’s will be genuine wide fit, time will tell. My go to shoes for a while have been Terraultra g270’s loved em, but recently probably due to my running volume increase covering mountainous terrain my feet are hurting in them, like you pointed out with the SG 4’s I feel it’s to do with the plastic overlays Inov8 use causing hot spots. I have converted to Altra lone Peaks to help my feet recover but I cannot get a lock down good enough for technical terrain. I had high hopes for the Mont Blancs but feel I can’t take the risk. So I am in a difficult place on shoe choice with time running out! Black toes are looking likely !!
@@marccastle8249 have you tried topo? I agree with terra ultra points and yes, maybe you are right - the wide just isn’t any wider ! Bizarre Thanks for watching my content too!
Great video 😊 I was torn between the Trailfly and SG5 as my “comfort” option for the forthcoming Wild Horse 200. Have gone for the Trailfly mostly because I have wide feet but it was close! Planning to start the run in my trusty G270s though (still my favourite) and probably change around halfway for some extra cushioning.
Thanks Juliet 👍 The Trailfly definitely offers a bit more width and toe box room. Hope the shoe works well for you and best of luck with the Wildhorse 200! Thanks for watching 🙏😊
Agree with your thoughts on the ‘Trailfly’ and as a bit of an Inov-8 fan they are my current go to shoe for varied terrain in my Inov-8 ‘stable’. Having had them for 9mths now I can attest to their longevity with no appreciable wear, just a bit mucky!! Lol
Awesome comparison! Was wearing the speedgoat for a while and my first ultra (100k). On all my pair, I’ve sliced open the toe box for more room for my toes, but it lets in debris. Performance on most other aspects are brilliant. Wearing Altra Rivera 2 right now for road runs due to the zero drop and wide toe box and loving them. The Mont Blanc’s have intrigued me but haven’t tried them yet. Currently wearing the terrailtra g270’s (now Trailfly G270) for their zero drop and rugged outsole. Also enjoying the trail feel due to the lower stack height. Loving them currently. Not sure if they’ll do for 100k distances. Haven’t tried the Trailfly ultra G300 yet but want to stay zero drop. I’m in a pickle! For now I’ll stay with the terraultra’s and see how my body feels as mileage increases.
Thanks Christopher, I'm glad you enjoyed the video 😊 I liked the feel of the Terraultra but unfortunately the ankle collar dug into the top of my foot on longer runs and caused problems. I also like to have a slight heel off set for longer races for when I get fatigued. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Still keen to try some Salomon Ultra Glides but overall, I've had every iteration of the Speedgoat and multiple pairs of most. I do think the SG3 was the best but I didn't have any issues with the SG4 either really. The SG line is pretty hard for me to move away from, it's a bit of a 'banker' Having said that, I can only get any Hoka to work for me with a 3rd party insole, otherwise I get blisters. I've used Superfeet models and currently switched to Enertor but am keen to try the Inov8 Boomerang.
I always tend to find if you find something that works Ian you're always best off sticking with it "if it isn't broke, don't fix it" mentally 😊 Hope your well and thanks for watching 🙏
Cheers Loyd, seem to be on the mend thanks. One of the things I've found is that I need to be very selective in the type of S&C I do. On legged stuff, especially left leg, makes things much worse. Trial and error. I've had a 51km 3 wks ago in 5.52 and currently getting between ~80km a week in. Endure 24 in 4wks, eek!
I'm a big fan of the Salomon Ultra Glides and there's lots of content on the channel with the shoe. As far as the Xodus Ultra goes, it's not even out yet so that's impossible! As soon as the new Xodus is available I'll have a pair to review. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
From what you say I'm surprised the Terraultra G270 isn't your go to shoe for TDS, I was amazed how fresh my legs and feet felt after 30 miles up in Scotland and very tempted to use it for UTMB this year. It seems people have forgotten how good a shoe it is
Unfortunately the Terraultra G270 didn't work for me on longer runs Richard. The ankle collar dug into the top of my foot and caused irritation 😔 I also like to have some heel off set in the mountains. When you are going up hill for hours I think a bit of lift in the heel really helps, it allows you to get you heels on the ground so you don't over work your calfs 😊 Obviously shoe choice is super personal and if it works for you that's great. See you in Chamonix 😁
Have to say the Speed Goat 5 has been disappointing compared to the SG4. The 5 has lost durability due to lack of overlays and ripped out at 200 miles where the 4 is worn out but the uppers are still in great condition. I get that Hoka was trying to make the shoe lighter but I think it went too far and the 5 is also too narrow, even the wide version. Unless Hoka can address the width and add a bit more overlay back in the next version for durability I’m going to have to move on.
Hi I am 77 and just got back into running after 40 years. just found and enjoy your videos as I have found I prefer running on trails then pounding the pavements a bit like a boy running through the woods. would you please tell me the main differences between the New Balance fresh foam More trail V2 and the Hierro V7? as they look very similar, I have ordered the latter because they were in my size. Please tell me I have bought the right shoe. Thanks.
Hi Mike, I'm glad you're enjoying the channel and welcome to the world of trail running! 😊 They're both actually pretty similar deeply cushioned trail shoes. I prefer the Hierro myself, it's got a little bit less cushioning and it feels more stable on uneven ground 👍 Hope this helps and you enjoy your shoes 🏃♂️
Thanks, running along the hills and paths of Yeovil Park was so refreshing, better than the same old road route so had to buy the 'right' shoes. Your Videos convey the joy you experience running trails and is inspiring
Thanks for the battle, fair I would say. What about durability? SG5 pulled so tight for a good fit does scream upper durability... Never ran in an Inov-8, might give the G270 a try (from what I'm hearing and reading)
No problem Naim, glad you enjoyed the video. Only time will tell when it comes to durability but I totally agree when it comes to pulling a shoe so tight, it can have an impact on durability 🤔 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
It was a great trail shoe Christine! The 5's are pretty good but the 3's are still the best in my eyes 😊 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I bought the SpeedGoat 5, but ended up returning them. The rubber on top of the toe-box just kept hitting my big toe, especially on downhill, so I wish it was a bit wider/taller. It felt fine on the flat treadmill, bur not walking down my driveway! Half a size bigger got too roomy, so it seems it I’ll have to find another shoe. (Traded them in for Alphafly´s😂😂)
That's a shame Torkil but you're right it's not the deepest toe box on the SG5's, so I could see how this might happen for some 😔 Hope you find something that works well for you and thanks for watching 🙏😊
@@thirdculturemama 7 hours down hill! That must be some hill if you're running down it for 7hrs 😲 I think running down hill for that amount of time would hurt your toes no matter what shoes you where wearing? 🤔 What was the race?
@@Run4Adventure I meant an epic 7 hour race with a lot of downhill. More like 3200m downhill! It was the Ultra Tour du Môle. Haha, yeah 7 hours downhill would have broken my legs off...
That was a big line up. TBH I love my Gflys and they have been solid for me. I agree they are a little lumpy price wise but I have been impressed on how well they are built and have lasted. Am soooo tempted by the Hoka’s though 🤣 Great video as always sir
Thanks Mark, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I'm also glad the Trailfly ultras are working for you, it is a solid shoe! 😊 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Glad you enjoyed the video Alan. I'd definitely check out the Topo Athletic range, especially if you need some width in your shoes. What do you use at the moment, shoe wise? 🤔
@@Run4Adventure Mainly running on road at the moment after years away from running , using the pegasus 38 which im not loving so just bought some reebok floatride energy 4's which i am .Trail shoe wise I have none but being in the west of ireland I'll need something that can handle all types of terrain including road and mud .
Nice comparison video Loyd. As I mentioned to you before I didn't get on with my Trailflys, which was a shame considering the price. I can't wear Hoka's as I have wide feet and I don't like zero drop shoes, so Altra's are a no no. It would be nice to see what Inov8 do with the Trailfly in the next version, I am not sure the Graphine is worth the extra weight.
It's a shame the Trailfly didn't work for you. It can be tricky if you do have a bit of width to your footshape Rob? What shoes are you currently running in 🤔
@@Run4Adventure Saucony Xodus 11 Loyd. Very keen to get a pair of the Xodus Ultras due for launch next month, I think?!?. I have a bit of a dilemma though because I have the Salomon Serpent 100k on 2nd July and my current Xodus 11 are end of life, so I am either going to have to try and find another pair of Xodus 11 in my size, which is getting harder to do now with the stock being depleted online, or I wait for the Xodus Ultra to come out and hope they are comfortable out of the box, because I doubt I'll have much time to get miles in those shoes, depending on when Saucony actually release them. Not great timing...😒 Real world problems 😂
Have you tried Topo? Wide toe box and most models are not zero drop. SG does come in a wide fit, not tried it yet as my local shop didn't have them in stock so I'm waiting for them to get delivery, but that might also be an option.
@@trailsandbeers Yes, I use the Topo Athletic Mnt Racer 2 in my shoe rotation. Loyd did a review on this shoe as did I on my channel. If fact I just uploaded a 100 mile update on this shoe.
a minus on the Trailfly for me is the tongue. If I lace them down properly it curls up (due to being connected an both sides there is no place to go other than to curl up). Also the laces are quite long and there is no place to put them (doing a double knot helps however). Ill the if the weather is dry or not. If its dry I will run the next ultra probalby wearing my tried and trusted Asics novablast 2, if its muddy I will go for the Trailfly :)
I agree Jan is the tounge isn't the best, I'd like to see a bit more lenght and padding next time around. The laces are pretty long, you could almost lace both shoes with one laces 🤔 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment 🙏
I would recommend staying away from deeply cushioned trail running shoes if you have a habit of rolling your ankles! The lower you are to the ground the more connection and stability you'll have 👍 The Speedgoat is a deeply cushioned, high stacked trail shoe so maybe not the best option. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel Jonathan 🙏😊
Just ran for the first time in a SG, cant get away with the poor structure and often quality issues of Altra, I do love an Inov8 shoe but the price tag did put me off when they came out. Likely going to use the SG5 for UTMB this year and maybe see you in France in August.
I've been very disappointed with Altras build quality over the years. They really need to up their game when it comes to durability! I think I'll be rocking the SG5's in Chamonix this year. Hope you are looking forward to your UTMB experience Ian and hopefully see you There. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel its really appreciated 🙏😊
It’s a shame the Altra Olympus 5 hasn’t come out yet this year, as perhaps a better contender from Altra would have been the latest Olympus shoe which is pretty bulletproof in lock down, upper and grip?
I've been using Altra Superior 5 recently but have just ordered Terraultra/Trailfly G270s. For those already running G270s did you size up at all and if so by how much?
I sized up half a size in the Terraultras Darren, I have to do that in all the Inov8's I run in 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏
Thanks Nigel I'm glad you enjoyed the video. There's quite a few shoes I could choose to run that kind of distance. Definitely the Salomon Ultra Glide or the Parkclaw G 280. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
I love my TrailFlys but do find them slipping a bit on wet rocks and more than shoes with vibram rubber. Nevertheless I just did a 59k race in the TrailFlys and I just felt great
I think the Vibram Megagrip is a little bit better in the wet Mikkel but I haven't had an issue with the G-Grip. I'm glad you're enjoying the Trailfly ultras and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
No Chris, my Speedgoats in a UK10 are 305g and my Trailflys in a uk9.5 are 360g! So quite a bit heavier 👍 I wouldn't say the Trailflys run heavy but you do notice the weight difference. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure thank YOU! that’s interesting how different they are from what they post as the weights for a size 9 US. Online states 10.5oz for spg 5 and 10.6oz for trail fly. That’s misleading if reality weighs much heavier. Hmm.
@@chrisburke9721 I've mentioned it a few times on the channel, it so misleading! The the 300 in the Trailflys name is reference to the weight of the shoes but every size is a different weight? 🤔
@@Run4Adventure thanks! When you research weights online it appears they use a size 9 for eight quotes on hoka and for inov8. I have the last years Gfly ultra which I had to manual break on the toungue sidewall as it dug on a bit. Once broken in it’s been a great shoe especially on technical terrain. Just was watching your review to see if the trail fly would be good upgrade for long training with more cushion! I appreciate your channel!!
Love my speedgoat 5s! They have been awesome and very similar to my evo speedgoats which were the best! Much prefer them over the Salomon ultra glides that don’t suit my foot as well, and wear too fast with the lugs especially near the heel. Just got Hoka Tecton X and loved them! Light and fast. Did slip a little bit only some one run and it was very wet, steep and technical where I slipped a little. Wonder if I would have in SG5 with deeper lugs than the shallower lite base ones. Got a few 100km races coming up and think either SG5 or Tecton X will be great. One is more climbing and technical so will opt for SG5. Other on sand and varied surfaces but less technical and more fire trail type stuff where I think Tecton X will easily handle, so want to extra pop and lighter ride
Glad you're enjoying your SG5's Joel. The lack of grip on the Tecton X is a shame, I don't know why they didn't put a slightly deeper lug on the outsole? I think it would of made it a much better allrounder, rather than a trail shoe just for dry trails. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel its really appreciated 🙏😊
Good evenning Run4adventure and all the runners. Fabolous as ever Loyd. Here is my like. My vote goes to.....Altra Montblanc. A nice week for everyone. ⛰🏃♂️🌞
I don't have that issue in the Trailfly ultras but I have had it in other inov8 shoes 👍 Sorry to hear they're not working for you but thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏😊
Thanks and….Oh dear, I was just about to order one.(unfortunately none available locally to try). Remember I have the Inov8 TerraUltra G270 for difficult terrain. (Annoying now discontinued, but available at £99, maybe get a pair in for next year). The MB would be for easier stuff, but the hope is that it would be better for longer distance, 50k plus. Yes. Trailfly at £99 sounds a better deal, but I prefer a zero drop. Though I do wonder with a max cushion shoe whether you feel the drop so much, ie the heel is going to compress more than the mid foot. Cheers Mark
Well I went for them. From the reviews, they seem to be a bit of a Marmite shoe, but seemed to fit the bill for what I wanted. Looking for a shoe for longer easier terrain. Out of the box, in the house, they did feel weird, thick sole and pronounced toe rocker. And I could feel the looseness on the heel that worries a lot of reviewers. True to fit, the same as my old Escalantes. So out for my usual 14k run, over the Forth Road Bridge and round the headland. It includes a few K of trail, with some rough stones. So how were they. Though a max cushioning, the are actually very firm, so you don’t get that floating on air feel, which is perhaps good in the longevity of the midsole. Walking they do feel not quite right, but running they are fine. Pressure is definitely mid foot. You have to consciously press your toes down. They feel most in tune at, for me, quite a fast pace. Confortable straight away, though the tongue is an issue, too short, too thin. I did actually put some extra padding under the top, as suggested by others. The laces are actually quite good, grippy and don’t come undone, but do press into your foot, I will try others. Once tightened up, there is good mid foot retention and stability, and with the extra padding and a runners knot, the lose heel is minimal, for me not a worry. (Removing the insoles would help this) So do I get out the little black bottle to spice up my toast, yup, I really like them. Felt I got a good work out, though hit a few less used muscles. It will be interesting to see how they cope with more demanding terrain when I am back in the Highlands next week. I did get them at a very good discount from Start Fitness, especially with an introductory code. Time will tell how they fare longer term (I usually find, that for me, outside heel outsole wears quickly and the midsole packs down unevenly)
@@markthomasson5077 Running shoes are so personal and what doesn't work for me, might work for others. I've never been a fan of a runners knot but I did try it with the Mont Blanc. I found the tounge was to short and to under padded and laces hurt the top of my foot! I'm not sure the lug will be Deep enough for the Highlands in winter, might struggle with traction? I'm glad they're working out for you 👍
I went to my local shop to buy a pair of Salomons and left with the speedgoats. They are by some margin my favourite shoe to run in, I almost exclusively run trail now and I think that the shoes are a big part of that preference.
You helped me decide on the Hoka. Fantastic video. Cheers.
I miss your older longer intro 😭, but understand why you shortened it. Thanks for the great comparison video!
Sorry about that, I really enjoyed the old intro as well but it was a bit long. I think Liga has done a fantastic job on the new one. Really glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for supporting the channel 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure I totally get why you all revamped it. Both are very polished! I wouldn’t know where to start making something like that. I have so much respect for content creators like yourself. Thanks again.
@@eriktred
That's very kind, thank you 🙏
I’m on my second pair of Inov8 trailflys . Incredibly comfy on stoney terrain and also on interlinking road sections. Hard wearing 750 miles out of my first pair. Yes a little heavy but I’ve tried Hokas and they are always a little too narrow for my foot shape. Price - Inov8 have managed discount reductions and paid about £140 - £150 - Higher price I think offset by the durability of the shoe.
Have you tried the TerraUltra G270’s? Just started wearing these and loving them. Not sure if they’ll do for 100k though??
@@ckokomo808 sound good 👍
I'm really glad you're enjoying your Trailfly ultras and that's great that you're getting good milage in them! Thanks for watching Michael it's appreciated 🙏😊
Yeah its a toughy. I've been in the SpeedGoat 5's now for a bit and completely agree with you on everything you've said. It's tolerable but could be a lot better in mid foot section. Also I enjoy the laces and padded tongue better in the Torrent 2's. Hack: I actually pulled the laces out of one of my old Torrents and using them on the SpeedGoats....They're longer and less strechy so feel like its giving me more support.
Great review. I’ve put 600 miles on my Trailfly’s and happy with their performance. Agree on the lack of padding with the tongue, weight is a little heavy and the price is just too high. I would take the Salomon Ultra Glide over all three of these. I’m on my third pair and have gotten 400+ miles out of my first two.
That's good to hear Nick! 👍
The Ultra Glide is one of my favourites to Nick, it's a great allrounder but I will go up half a size next time around. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
I need to try the ultra glides
Good luck on TDS, and please come fresh to Bourg Maurice for that mega climb. Regards,
Thanjs very much, that's really appreciated 🙏😊
Good comparison, and you've just reminded me to go back and rewatch your South West Traverse video for research. 👍
A bit of research can never hurt mate! Hope you are feeling fit and ready to race 😊
See you at the weekend, thanks for watching 🙏
Great Vs Loyd. So succinct and well explained for a novices like me. I've been putting too many long trail runs into the saucony peregrine 12s and I'm definitely going to be getting some of the SG5s to see how they compare. Thanks
Let us know how you feel about them. I’m deciding between the two as well. Very difficult to choose indeed.
Really glad you enjoyed the video Sam and you found it helpful! 👍
The SG5'S are very different to the Peregrine but it is a good shoe for distance. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Dear Loyd, thank you for this comparison. I run on Xodus Ultra’s and looking for a little more cushioning, without losing the fit and feel of that awesome Saucony, would the Trailfly G300 be the best of these three to try on? Greetings from the Netherlands, Maarten.
Great comparison and video! Looks like your channel is growing well! Keep up the great work!!!
Thanks Chad, will do and thanks for the support 🙏😊
Great vid. Love my speedgoats can, and have, run all day in them!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video. The SG's are a great trail shoe for distance, that's for sure! 👍
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
I love the Trail fly but I noticed at around five miles the front started to suddenly ware down very fast, as if I were a top toe runner. To the point that a luck dislodged and split away. Strange as at first they seemed so impressively hardwaring.
Such a well produced video. Awesome job..
Thanks Jurgen, that's very kind. Really glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching 🙏😊
Great video as always Loyd! I've enjoyed the inov8 but I agree I wish I'd gone up half a size. Looking forward to trying the speedgoat 5 at some point too. My go to for long distances is actually the inov8 g270 I find that so comfortable I've done a few 20 milers in it and had zero hot spots or blisters
Thanks Aaron 👍
That's great that you've found a shoe for your longer runs that causes you no issues. It's always good when you have one of those. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel mate 🙏😊
After getting on so well with my Hoka road shoes in a wide fit I decided to replace my Inov8 trail shoes with the wide fit Speed Goat 5. Unfortunately they had to go back as they absolutely crush my toes, not a wide fit at all
I had to go with the Speedgoat 5 in the EE width, but go with the standard D width in every other shoe.
I definitely found some Altra foot shape shoes want to turn over on my foot when running off camber. An unstructured upper would make that a nightmare.
Recon the review was bang on Loyd
Cheers Dean, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Hope you are fit and well! Will you be at the Serpent trail this year 🤔
Thanks for watching 🙏
@@Run4Adventure certainly am mate. Hope to see you there
Great video Loyd. I so wanted to love the Speedgoat 5’s but the toe box is so frustratingly narrow. Having use Altra’s for a while, it’s so difficult to give up that footshape toe box. I was put off by the mixed reviews of the Mont Blanc so I’ve just purchased the Timp 4’s and absolutely love them. The Ego Max midsole is the most comfortable midsole I’ve experienced so far. I just wish it came with a Vibram megagrip!
Thanks Anthony, glad you enjoyed the video. I totally agree, the Egomax midsole on the Timps is really good! It would definitely benifits from a better outsole but if Altra used Vibram Megagrip on it it would put the pice up quite a bit! 🤔 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Really good comparison video, love the format, well done!
Thanks Johan, that's very kind! Really glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Great review Lloyd think I’ll be going for the Salomon ultra glide for this summer if I can find a pair. I’d be very interested in how many miles you get out of the SG5 before they breakdown? Keep up the good and take care
Thanks Andrew, I'm glad you enjoyed the video 😊
The SG5'S are holding up well so far, I've got around 100 miles in them. When I get to around the 200-250 I'll film another review to let everyone know how the SG5's are holding up. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
A great head to head. As an Altra fan & ultra runner I was surprised you pitted the Mont Blanc & not the Olympus 4. I wondered how that w we would have faired. I’ve got the Ham to Lyme 100k coming up & like last year I’ll be wearing the Lone Peak 5👍
Thanks Paul, glad you enjoyed it. The Mont Blanc was so hyped I really wanted to try it, plus the Olympus 4 is an old shoe now and I'm waiting for the 5's 👍
Thanks for watching and good luck with your 100k 🙏😊
Thank you for this video. I was on the hunt for a good trail shoe for walking and speed walking my dogs on challenging terrain.
My local 42 Degrees North store didn't have the Inov8 but they had the Hoka Speedgoat 5 and the Altra Mont Blanc so got to test them both out on their treadmill and I must say I'm NOT a fan of the Hoka Speedgoat 5. Can't tie them tight enough for my liking and I didn't like the feel of the midsole or the back of the shoe.
The Altra may have that weird heel but it ties up nice and snug and once I started walking the treadmill with speed and incline I REALLY liked them. So I bought them and head straight home to get my dogs and off we went on some steep terrain and I must say I LOVE the Altra Mont Blanc. I noticed very minimal heel slip and that was only on a real steep climb but on the straights and downgrades no slippage what so ever in the heel.
I had my heart set on some Inov8 Trail fly but none are in my area. I'm pleased with my new Altra Mont Blanc shoes...
Comparison videos are the best 🤩
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I think I will stick with my Ultra Glides. 500 miles and still good. Saucony EXODUS Ultra look interesting too.
The Ultra Glide is one of my favourites to Ian, great allrounder! I'm looking forward to the Xodus Ultra, looks like it could be a great shoe for distance 🤔
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Speed goat 5 all day long. I love mine. Great review Loyd. 👍
Cheers Mark and I'm glad you are enjoying your SG5'S, Thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏😊
I would like to hear how the Speedgoat 5 might compare to the New Balance More Trail V2.
I'll see what I can do 👍
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Could you please review Asics Fuji Lyte, I loved it pretty much better than Speedgoat 5. Their grippy outsole is better than Vibram imo although I've not been in snow/slush only rain and mud and it performed very well completely no slip.
I'll see what I can do Sue 👍
Thanks for watching 🙏
Great comparison , fair, detailed and honest stuff… I am looking forward to the sg5 in wide
Do you think they will do it in a genuine wide? Normally a wide fit for Hoka just means more volume in the upper, which then just makes lock down hard and your feet still bulge over the side of the foam.
@@marccastle8249 it’s a funny one but I think with Hoka they actually do make the overall width wider but I found with others they just make more fabric/ upper… as you said. I might be wrong or could be a placebo trick on my brain! Think the good thing with the sg5 is that they have got rid of the plastic overlays that restrict any stretch
@@marccastle8249 all that said, I personally love my Altra Mont Blancs … I have worked the fit perfectly, so much so I may buy a second pair (in red) but this time go down 1/2
@@movemorenowjames I’ve watched your reviews and thoughts on the MB’s, and a lot of your other content good stuff 👍
I bought a pair of Clifton 8’s in wide and convinced they were not so bought a pair of standard width and the were the same a baggy upper does not make a wide fit! I raised the issue with Hoka who blanked me which was disappointing… I hope the SG5’s will be genuine wide fit, time will tell.
My go to shoes for a while have been Terraultra g270’s loved em, but recently probably due to my running volume increase covering mountainous terrain my feet are hurting in them, like you pointed out with the SG 4’s I feel it’s to do with the plastic overlays Inov8 use causing hot spots.
I have converted to Altra lone Peaks to help my feet recover but I cannot get a lock down good enough for technical terrain.
I had high hopes for the Mont Blancs but feel I can’t take the risk.
So I am in a difficult place on shoe choice with time running out! Black toes are looking likely !!
@@marccastle8249 have you tried topo? I agree with terra ultra points and yes, maybe you are right - the wide just isn’t any wider ! Bizarre
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Epic long range shoe battle!!
Cheers Greg, I'm glad you thought so! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Great video 😊 I was torn between the Trailfly and SG5 as my “comfort” option for the forthcoming Wild Horse 200. Have gone for the Trailfly mostly because I have wide feet but it was close! Planning to start the run in my trusty G270s though (still my favourite) and probably change around halfway for some extra cushioning.
Thanks Juliet 👍
The Trailfly definitely offers a bit more width and toe box room. Hope the shoe works well for you and best of luck with the Wildhorse 200! Thanks for watching 🙏😊
Agree with your thoughts on the ‘Trailfly’ and as a bit of an Inov-8 fan they are my current go to shoe for varied terrain in my Inov-8 ‘stable’. Having had them for 9mths now I can attest to their longevity with no appreciable wear, just a bit mucky!! Lol
That's great to hear and I'm glad you're enjoying your Trailflys 👍
Thanks for watching 🙏
Trailfly or the new thundercross?
Awesome comparison! Was wearing the speedgoat for a while and my first ultra (100k). On all my pair, I’ve sliced open the toe box for more room for my toes, but it lets in debris. Performance on most other aspects are brilliant.
Wearing Altra Rivera 2 right now for road runs due to the zero drop and wide toe box and loving them. The Mont Blanc’s have intrigued me but haven’t tried them yet.
Currently wearing the terrailtra g270’s (now Trailfly G270) for their zero drop and rugged outsole. Also enjoying the trail feel due to the lower stack height. Loving them currently. Not sure if they’ll do for 100k distances. Haven’t tried the Trailfly ultra G300 yet but want to stay zero drop.
I’m in a pickle! For now I’ll stay with the terraultra’s and see how my body feels as mileage increases.
Thanks Christopher, I'm glad you enjoyed the video 😊
I liked the feel of the Terraultra but unfortunately the ankle collar dug into the top of my foot on longer runs and caused problems. I also like to have a slight heel off set for longer races for when I get fatigued. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Still keen to try some Salomon Ultra Glides but overall, I've had every iteration of the Speedgoat and multiple pairs of most. I do think the SG3 was the best but I didn't have any issues with the SG4 either really. The SG line is pretty hard for me to move away from, it's a bit of a 'banker'
Having said that, I can only get any Hoka to work for me with a 3rd party insole, otherwise I get blisters. I've used Superfeet models and currently switched to Enertor but am keen to try the Inov8 Boomerang.
Salomon Ultra Glides is awesome!Only concern is outsole durability, wears down faster then others.
I always tend to find if you find something that works Ian you're always best off sticking with it "if it isn't broke, don't fix it" mentally 😊
Hope your well and thanks for watching 🙏
Cheers Loyd, seem to be on the mend thanks. One of the things I've found is that I need to be very selective in the type of S&C I do. On legged stuff, especially left leg, makes things much worse. Trial and error.
I've had a 51km 3 wks ago in 5.52 and currently getting between ~80km a week in. Endure 24 in 4wks, eek!
Please please please add Salomon Ultra Glide and the new Saucony Xodus Ultra to the comparison. :)
I'm a big fan of the Salomon Ultra Glides and there's lots of content on the channel with the shoe. As far as the Xodus Ultra goes, it's not even out yet so that's impossible! As soon as the new Xodus is available I'll have a pair to review. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
From what you say I'm surprised the Terraultra G270 isn't your go to shoe for TDS, I was amazed how fresh my legs and feet felt after 30 miles up in Scotland and very tempted to use it for UTMB this year. It seems people have forgotten how good a shoe it is
I am with you. Going to be wearing the 270’s for CCC this year. Also you can get a new pair for crazy cheap prices online in the uk at the moment.
Unfortunately the Terraultra G270 didn't work for me on longer runs Richard. The ankle collar dug into the top of my foot and caused irritation 😔
I also like to have some heel off set in the mountains. When you are going up hill for hours I think a bit of lift in the heel really helps, it allows you to get you heels on the ground so you don't over work your calfs 😊 Obviously shoe choice is super personal and if it works for you that's great. See you in Chamonix 😁
Have to say the Speed Goat 5 has been disappointing compared to the SG4. The 5 has lost durability due to lack of overlays and ripped out at 200 miles where the 4 is worn out but the uppers are still in great condition. I get that Hoka was trying to make the shoe lighter but I think it went too far and the 5 is also too narrow, even the wide version. Unless Hoka can address the width and add a bit more overlay back in the next version for durability I’m going to have to move on.
Hi I am 77 and just got back into running after 40 years. just found and enjoy your videos as I have found I prefer running on trails then pounding the pavements a bit like a boy running through the woods. would you please tell me the main differences between the New Balance fresh foam More trail V2 and the Hierro V7? as they look very similar, I have ordered the latter because they were in my size. Please tell me I have bought the right shoe. Thanks.
Hi Mike, I'm glad you're enjoying the channel and welcome to the world of trail running! 😊
They're both actually pretty similar deeply cushioned trail shoes. I prefer the Hierro myself, it's got a little bit less cushioning and it feels more stable on uneven ground 👍
Hope this helps and you enjoy your shoes 🏃♂️
Thanks, running along the hills and paths of Yeovil Park was so refreshing, better than the same old road route so had to buy the 'right' shoes. Your Videos convey the joy you experience running trails and is inspiring
@@mikeharris7885 Awesome Mike 😁
Great video
Thanks Michalis, I'm really glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching 🙏😊
Thanks for the battle, fair I would say. What about durability? SG5 pulled so tight for a good fit does scream upper durability... Never ran in an Inov-8, might give the G270 a try (from what I'm hearing and reading)
No problem Naim, glad you enjoyed the video. Only time will tell when it comes to durability but I totally agree when it comes to pulling a shoe so tight, it can have an impact on durability 🤔
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Oh how I miss the Speedgoat 3 too.
It was a great trail shoe Christine! The 5's are pretty good but the 3's are still the best in my eyes 😊
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I bought the SpeedGoat 5, but ended up returning them. The rubber on top of the toe-box just kept hitting my big toe, especially on downhill, so I wish it was a bit wider/taller. It felt fine on the flat treadmill, bur not walking down my driveway! Half a size bigger got too roomy, so it seems it I’ll have to find another shoe. (Traded them in for Alphafly´s😂😂)
I had the same big toe blister issue on the downhill, such a bummer.
That's a shame Torkil but you're right it's not the deepest toe box on the SG5's, so I could see how this might happen for some 😔
Hope you find something that works well for you and thanks for watching 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure just ran a 7 hour downhill race and thought my toes were breaking off, don;t have particularly wide feet or long toes either!
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7 hours down hill! That must be some hill if you're running down it for 7hrs 😲
I think running down hill for that amount of time would hurt your toes no matter what shoes you where wearing? 🤔
What was the race?
@@Run4Adventure I meant an epic 7 hour race with a lot of downhill. More like 3200m downhill! It was the Ultra Tour du Môle. Haha, yeah 7 hours downhill would have broken my legs off...
That was a big line up. TBH I love my Gflys and they have been solid for me. I agree they are a little lumpy price wise but I have been impressed on how well they are built and have lasted. Am soooo tempted by the Hoka’s though 🤣 Great video as always sir
Thanks Mark, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I'm also glad the Trailfly ultras are working for you, it is a solid shoe! 😊
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Great video thanks , what would you recommend to a new trail runner who won't be doing over 30k runs for a long time ?. Also has a wide foot .
Something like the Topo mtn racer 2 might be the go. Lloyd reviewed it on the channel last year.
@@seanmac80 Thanks Sean watched the review seems a good shoe but like Lloyd the looks are a little bland for me .
Glad you enjoyed the video Alan. I'd definitely check out the Topo Athletic range, especially if you need some width in your shoes. What do you use at the moment, shoe wise? 🤔
@@Run4Adventure Mainly running on road at the moment after years away from running , using the pegasus 38 which im not loving so just bought some reebok floatride energy 4's which i am .Trail shoe wise I have none but being in the west of ireland I'll need something that can handle all types of terrain including road and mud .
Nice comparison video Loyd. As I mentioned to you before I didn't get on with my Trailflys, which was a shame considering the price. I can't wear Hoka's as I have wide feet and I don't like zero drop shoes, so Altra's are a no no. It would be nice to see what Inov8 do with the Trailfly in the next version, I am not sure the Graphine is worth the extra weight.
It's a shame the Trailfly didn't work for you. It can be tricky if you do have a bit of width to your footshape Rob? What shoes are you currently running in 🤔
@@Run4Adventure Saucony Xodus 11 Loyd. Very keen to get a pair of the Xodus Ultras due for launch next month, I think?!?. I have a bit of a dilemma though because I have the Salomon Serpent 100k on 2nd July and my current Xodus 11 are end of life, so I am either going to have to try and find another pair of Xodus 11 in my size, which is getting harder to do now with the stock being depleted online, or I wait for the Xodus Ultra to come out and hope they are comfortable out of the box, because I doubt I'll have much time to get miles in those shoes, depending on when Saucony actually release them. Not great timing...😒 Real world problems 😂
Have you tried Topo?
Wide toe box and most models are not zero drop.
SG does come in a wide fit, not tried it yet as my local shop didn't have them in stock so I'm waiting for them to get delivery, but that might also be an option.
@@trailsandbeers Yes, I use the Topo Athletic Mnt Racer 2 in my shoe rotation. Loyd did a review on this shoe as did I on my channel. If fact I just uploaded a 100 mile update on this shoe.
a minus on the Trailfly for me is the tongue. If I lace them down properly it curls up (due to being connected an both sides there is no place to go other than to curl up). Also the laces are quite long and there is no place to put them (doing a double knot helps however). Ill the if the weather is dry or not. If its dry I will run the next ultra probalby wearing my tried and trusted Asics novablast 2, if its muddy I will go for the Trailfly :)
I agree Jan is the tounge isn't the best, I'd like to see a bit more lenght and padding next time around. The laces are pretty long, you could almost lace both shoes with one laces 🤔
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment 🙏
I can roll my ankle on the rocky terrain, need a stable shoe. Which do you still recommend the speedgoat 5?
I would recommend staying away from deeply cushioned trail running shoes if you have a habit of rolling your ankles! The lower you are to the ground the more connection and stability you'll have 👍
The Speedgoat is a deeply cushioned, high stacked trail shoe so maybe not the best option. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel Jonathan 🙏😊
Torn between the Inov8 and the Speedgoat
Just ran for the first time in a SG, cant get away with the poor structure and often quality issues of Altra, I do love an Inov8 shoe but the price tag did put me off when they came out. Likely going to use the SG5 for UTMB this year and maybe see you in France in August.
I've been very disappointed with Altras build quality over the years. They really need to up their game when it comes to durability! I think I'll be rocking the SG5's in Chamonix this year. Hope you are looking forward to your UTMB experience Ian and hopefully see you There. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel its really appreciated 🙏😊
UltraGlide vs SG5 vs Saucony Xodus Ultra 🙏
I'll see what I can do Garth 👍
Thanks for watching 🙏
It’s a shame the Altra Olympus 5 hasn’t come out yet this year, as perhaps a better contender from Altra would have been the latest Olympus shoe which is pretty bulletproof in lock down, upper and grip?
It definitely can't be worse than the Mont Blanc when it comes to lock down and heal slip Phil! 😲
Thanks for watching, hope you're fit and well 😊
Sadly none of them have enough drop for me, i need minimum 8mm to avoid any issues.
I've been using Altra Superior 5 recently but have just ordered Terraultra/Trailfly G270s. For those already running G270s did you size up at all and if so by how much?
I sized up half a size in the Terraultras Darren, I have to do that in all the Inov8's I run in 👍
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Great reviews Loyd. Is there any other shoe you would consider doing a 50km trail ultra in ?
Thanks Nigel I'm glad you enjoyed the video. There's quite a few shoes I could choose to run that kind of distance. Definitely the Salomon Ultra Glide or the Parkclaw G 280. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
I love my TrailFlys but do find them slipping a bit on wet rocks and more than shoes with vibram rubber. Nevertheless I just did a 59k race in the TrailFlys and I just felt great
I think the Vibram Megagrip is a little bit better in the wet Mikkel but I haven't had an issue with the G-Grip. I'm glad you're enjoying the Trailfly ultras and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Speed goat is 292g vs 300 for trail fly. So pretty much the same weight, no?
No Chris, my Speedgoats in a UK10 are 305g and my Trailflys in a uk9.5 are 360g! So quite a bit heavier 👍
I wouldn't say the Trailflys run heavy but you do notice the weight difference. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure thank YOU! that’s interesting how different they are from what they post as the weights for a size 9 US. Online states 10.5oz for spg 5 and 10.6oz for trail fly. That’s misleading if reality weighs much heavier. Hmm.
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I've mentioned it a few times on the channel, it so misleading! The the 300 in the Trailflys name is reference to the weight of the shoes but every size is a different weight? 🤔
@@Run4Adventure thanks! When you research weights online it appears they use a size 9 for eight quotes on hoka and for inov8. I have the last years Gfly ultra which I had to manual break on the toungue sidewall as it dug on a bit. Once broken in it’s been a great shoe especially on technical terrain. Just was watching your review to see if the trail fly would be good upgrade for long training with more cushion! I appreciate your channel!!
I have the trailfly and don’t find any cushion one bit?
Wow, you don't find the Trailfly ultras cushioned! 🤔
What trail shoe did you use before you got the Trailfly?
Love my speedgoat 5s! They have been awesome and very similar to my evo speedgoats which were the best! Much prefer them over the Salomon ultra glides that don’t suit my foot as well, and wear too fast with the lugs especially near the heel. Just got Hoka Tecton X and loved them! Light and fast. Did slip a little bit only some one run and it was very wet, steep and technical where I slipped a little. Wonder if I would have in SG5 with deeper lugs than the shallower lite base ones. Got a few 100km races coming up and think either SG5 or Tecton X will be great. One is more climbing and technical so will opt for SG5. Other on sand and varied surfaces but less technical and more fire trail type stuff where I think Tecton X will easily handle, so want to extra pop and lighter ride
Glad you're enjoying your SG5's Joel. The lack of grip on the Tecton X is a shame, I don't know why they didn't put a slightly deeper lug on the outsole? I think it would of made it a much better allrounder, rather than a trail shoe just for dry trails. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel its really appreciated 🙏😊
Good evenning Run4adventure and all the runners. Fabolous as ever Loyd. Here is my like. My vote goes to.....Altra Montblanc. A nice week for everyone. ⛰🏃♂️🌞
Cheers Manuel 👍
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Good
My g300 have the worst lace bite ever, can’t wear them at all :(
I don't have that issue in the Trailfly ultras but I have had it in other inov8 shoes 👍
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These better the the Solomon ultra glide?
I'm a big fan of the Ultra Glides Tony and I'd say it's as good as the SG5's. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
I really enjoyed my first trail run with my Topo Ultraventure 2’s. It was only 9 miles but they were really comfortable….
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Present discount. Trailfly £99, Mont Blanc £115
I'd definitely give the Mont Blanc a miss Mark, it really isn't a great shoe! 😕
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Thanks and….Oh dear, I was just about to order one.(unfortunately none available locally to try). Remember I have the Inov8 TerraUltra G270 for difficult terrain. (Annoying now discontinued, but available at £99, maybe get a pair in for next year). The MB would be for easier stuff, but the hope is that it would be better for longer distance, 50k plus.
Yes. Trailfly at £99 sounds a better deal, but I prefer a zero drop. Though I do wonder with a max cushion shoe whether you feel the drop so much, ie the heel is going to compress more than the mid foot.
Cheers Mark
Well I went for them.
From the reviews, they seem to be a bit of a Marmite shoe, but seemed to fit the bill for what I wanted. Looking for a shoe for longer easier terrain.
Out of the box, in the house, they did feel weird, thick sole and pronounced toe rocker. And I could feel the looseness on the heel that worries a lot of reviewers. True to fit, the same as my old Escalantes.
So out for my usual 14k run, over the Forth Road Bridge and round the headland. It includes a few K of trail, with some rough stones. So how were they.
Though a max cushioning, the are actually very firm, so you don’t get that floating on air feel, which is perhaps good in the longevity of the midsole. Walking they do feel not quite right, but running they are fine. Pressure is definitely mid foot. You have to consciously press your toes down. They feel most in tune at, for me, quite a fast pace.
Confortable straight away, though the tongue is an issue, too short, too thin. I did actually put some extra padding under the top, as suggested by others. The laces are actually quite good, grippy and don’t come undone, but do press into your foot, I will try others.
Once tightened up, there is good mid foot retention and stability, and with the extra padding and a runners knot, the lose heel is minimal, for me not a worry. (Removing the insoles would help this)
So do I get out the little black bottle to spice up my toast, yup, I really like them. Felt I got a good work out, though hit a few less used muscles. It will be interesting to see how they cope with more demanding terrain when I am back in the Highlands next week.
I did get them at a very good discount from Start Fitness, especially with an introductory code. Time will tell how they fare longer term (I usually find, that for me, outside heel outsole wears quickly and the midsole packs down unevenly)
@@markthomasson5077 Running shoes are so personal and what doesn't work for me, might work for others. I've never been a fan of a runners knot but I did try it with the Mont Blanc. I found the tounge was to short and to under padded and laces hurt the top of my foot! I'm not sure the lug will be Deep enough for the Highlands in winter, might struggle with traction? I'm glad they're working out for you 👍
The Speedgoat 4 gets better and better.
Glad you're enjoying your SG4's, it just didn't work for me 😕
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I went to my local shop to buy a pair of Salomons and left with the speedgoats. They are by some margin my favourite shoe to run in, I almost exclusively run trail now and I think that the shoes are a big part of that preference.
That's great to hear and I'm glad you're enjoying your Speedgoat experience! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
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Shoes made in China for 300€+ you guys are crazy
€300+? There's no shoes in this video that cost that much? 🤔
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that altra looks rubbish
It's not the best shoe I've ever run in! It's got a lot of design issues that definitely need sorting out in the next version 👍
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