Stage one of the Melbourne Renewable Energy Hub (MREH) is nearing completion; check out their progress in such a short construction period. Phase 1: 600 MW / 1600 MWh capacity consisting of two batteries with 200 MW/400 MWh capacity (2-hour storage) and then 200 MW/800 MWh capacity (4-hour storage). This will be energised in 2025. Phase 2: Planned capacity of 600 MW / 1200 MWh making it one of the world's largest grid battery.
The funny thing here is that this project shows just about every other form of electrical storage is a waste of time. Moving water from one place to another requires a mega project in most cases which costs billions more for the same storage potential.
To be fair though, pumped hydro provides much longer term generation. This is great for maybe getting through an aircon peak in summer but a right sized pumped hydro could power a city overnight
@ possibly yes. I haven’t really done the figures. My comment is off the cuff somewhat but in reality if this installation last 15 years before it gets replaced / refurbished and the batteries are then recycled to 95% of raw materials which is then used to create more batteries I think I would be happier with that solution. This installation cost 1 billion aud then in 15 years say it cost another 1 billion of todays dollars to refurbish and recycle the old batteries the economics look wildly better in my eyes than a massive mega structure which cost 30 billion to produce but lasted 100 years. Just the disturbance to the natural landscape alone is for me the pumped hydro loses. Also there is a lot of maintaining required with pumped hydro which batteries just will never have. The output figures for batteries are very easily understood whereas the output figures for a pumped hydro system are not as easily measured. Again this is high level thinking. I would need to see and understand real data to make a real informed decision.
@@tigertoo01 15 years is a bit short of timeline try more like 40 years , but also would not be $1 billion be more like $650m but with more power than this 1. also repay the cost in like 6 years so expect a expansion within 10 years i say 5 years
@@RayJohnson1980 Snowy 2.0 is coming close to $12 billion (and rising) with no storage available until 2028 IF everything goes well... which it has NOT done so far. Is Florence still stuck in the hole?
@@RayJohnson1980nar I don’t think a battery will last 40 years if that’s what you meant. Maybe 20. But the time frame doesn’t really matter. What matters is the cost of installation and then what happens on decommissioning. As long as there is a path to recycling the batteries and new one put in place then the cycle can continue indefinitely.
@@djsUltra Looks like I cant post comments with a link, but this did catch on fire on 30th July 2021. The ABC has a report and coverage of it burning away
Yeah I think possibly you’re right but a great investment for the next 10 years or so. It will take this long before 1. There are enough evs to support something like this and 2. Government and auto makers gets their act together to allow bi directional charging a standard thing in evs.
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Stage one of the Melbourne Renewable Energy Hub (MREH) is nearing completion; check out their progress in such a short construction period.
Phase 1:
600 MW / 1600 MWh capacity consisting of two batteries with 200 MW/400 MWh capacity (2-hour storage) and then 200 MW/800 MWh capacity (4-hour storage). This will be energised in 2025.
Phase 2:
Planned capacity of 600 MW / 1200 MWh making it one of the world's largest grid battery.
Great video mate, really enjoyed it
Thank you for sharing!!! This gives hope that we are actually trying to go green!!!
We have a long way to go, but this is a fantastic step in the right direction!
Batteries are not green. Filthy.
Batteries need to be charged.
@@HeavenGuy Solar... Wind... might by the very thing to charge such a battery. Or have they built it as an art installation?
@@StorytimewithDeadline - I think it is mainly a grid stabilizer.
oh wow nice one and thanks for the video Chris you are a legend
Cheers, mate. Glad you enjoyed it.
Thanks for the update Chris, we are getting there
Wow, thanks for that video - so uplifting.
excellent
Was wondering when I'd see this video ❤️
Where is this project located?
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Is there an SEC association Chris ?.
www.secvictoria.com.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0014/1391/Melbourne_Renewable_Energy_Hub_information_sheet_Nov2023.pdf
Correct 💯
The funny thing here is that this project shows just about every other form of electrical storage is a waste of time. Moving water from one place to another requires a mega project in most cases which costs billions more for the same storage potential.
To be fair though, pumped hydro provides much longer term generation. This is great for maybe getting through an aircon peak in summer but a right sized pumped hydro could power a city overnight
@ possibly yes. I haven’t really done the figures. My comment is off the cuff somewhat but in reality if this installation last 15 years before it gets replaced / refurbished and the batteries are then recycled to 95% of raw materials which is then used to create more batteries I think I would be happier with that solution. This installation cost 1 billion aud then in 15 years say it cost another 1 billion of todays dollars to refurbish and recycle the old batteries the economics look wildly better in my eyes than a massive mega structure which cost 30 billion to produce but lasted 100 years. Just the disturbance to the natural landscape alone is for me the pumped hydro loses. Also there is a lot of maintaining required with pumped hydro which batteries just will never have. The output figures for batteries are very easily understood whereas the output figures for a pumped hydro system are not as easily measured. Again this is high level thinking. I would need to see and understand real data to make a real informed decision.
@@tigertoo01 15 years is a bit short of timeline try more like 40 years , but also would not be $1 billion be more like $650m but with more power than this 1. also repay the cost in like 6 years so expect a expansion within 10 years i say 5 years
@@RayJohnson1980 Snowy 2.0 is coming close to $12 billion (and rising) with no storage available until 2028 IF everything goes well... which it has NOT done so far. Is Florence still stuck in the hole?
@@RayJohnson1980nar I don’t think a battery will last 40 years if that’s what you meant. Maybe 20. But the time frame doesn’t really matter. What matters is the cost of installation and then what happens on decommissioning. As long as there is a path to recycling the batteries and new one put in place then the cycle can continue indefinitely.
Is this the one that already caught fire once?
No that was in SA. Even though there was a fire, it was considered a huge success.
@@djsUltra Looks like I cant post comments with a link, but this did catch on fire on 30th July 2021. The ABC has a report and coverage of it burning away
@@CRCinAU Actually you're right, that was this one. Sorry for that.
Batteries don't create energy. Seems foolish to charge Batteries from Batteries. Just use EV Batteries to buffer the grid instead. First principles?
Yeah I think possibly you’re right but a great investment for the next 10 years or so. It will take this long before 1. There are enough evs to support something like this and 2. Government and auto makers gets their act together to allow bi directional charging a standard thing in evs.
Maybe you should give the energy sector experts a call and let em know.
all that space for 4 hours ....what a joke