Thanks so much for the feedback Dean!! I love this camera so much, and the lenses are a great value option for those who maybe don't have E Mount lenses yet :)
“If you’re thinking about buying the ronin 4D, I would probably recommend rent it, and then go take out a gym membership as well.” 😂 I love you! Obsessed with your work! And LOVE LUMIX!
Great video, thank you. Could you tell me which mount you have on your Ronin 4D? And what adapter did you use to fit those EF Samyang VDSLR MK2 lenses please? Thanks
If you're struggling with the weight You should try the smallrig dual camera strap, You just attach the straps to the handles and It Will help to carry the weight with the whole body. It helped me shoot a whole day and don't feel it on My back and arms the next day.
What impacts the weight the most is what is being attached to the camera module because of the fulcrum lever principle. The longer the distance an object is from your hand position, the heavier it will feel. So if you kept the lens weight down, removed the included counter weight, use an active lens to avoid mounting the focus motor and removed the lidar (so manual focus only), then the 4D will feel feather light.
Thanks! I since switched over to L-Mount primes from LUMIX once the L-Mount was released for the 4D; eliminated the need for the counterweight and they're also much lighter.
Geat video thanks - I have just taken delivery of the 8K Ronin 4D combo which includes the native DL zoom lens (17-28mm) and SSD - trying to learn how to use it so your videos are great!
I've not seen his setup, I'll have to take a look! I have a harness which is low profile; would love an easy rig but I worry for weddings it might be a bit too off-putting when trying to be discreet and such.
@@RussellKentNicholls I hear you, but you have to check Justin's TikTok, Insta and RUclips it's mind blowing. I know your typical UK wedding is very different to the US though for sure
Would love to see a video about calibrating manual lens for autofocus on the 4D. I don't feel like there's much out there on it from people who really use the system on shoots. Curious if you feel that the system works fairly consistently across all the manual lenses you've tried? Thanks for the great content.
Great to hear about your experience with the 4D brother, I've been watching all videos there are on youtube on this camera I think and I am still thinking because it is such a big investment! But wow, your footage looks incredible... I have one question, if I may: I heard some people say, that the customisation options with the gimbal are not that great. Is it possible to change the gimbal speed, smoothness and deadband to a point where it slowly stops instead of being pretty fast? Most of the footage, that I have seen is quite rapid. Much love!
Wonderful video! Do you need a counterweight with the 14 mm 2.8? Also a focus motor ? I hope to buy the 14mm for canon and the adapter you have so that this wide lens will work on my BMPCC 6K , as well as the 4D
Just got my Ronin 4D with e mount adaptor. Already have a set of sony primes... 20, 35, 85mm. Do cine lenses really give that much of a different look and are they worth the investment? Another question, the Rode videomic mounted to the side. Doesnt it pickup the gimball sounds? As I read alot of comments that you have to mount your mic at a standoff from the gimball. thx
Dji ronin 4d just got a big firmware update on 1/13/2022.this camera is pure magic. If you get the chance to to try this thing out you will feel like a kid again.
Thank you for your review Russell. These are both products I am seriously considering investing in. I currently have the S1H with a standard zoom lens, but I'm in a position where I can afford to upgrade to the Ronin-4D alongside these VDSLR MK2 lenses. I'm curious, as you also had the S1H, do you still think the Ronin 4D is still worth investing in. I specialise in more narrative and commercial projects, so for me, my interest is in the unique shots and innovation/technology behind the camera, regardless of your crew size. But I'm surprised that not many content creators are talking about it
Thank you so much! Appreciate you watching it. The Ronin 4D is definitely a unique set up, however, having used it for the past year and a half I really am in love with it. Now it supports Panasonic lenses via the interchangeable mount, I can use the same autofocus lenses on both the Panasonic and DJI cameras, which means that I only really need three or four lenses in my kit bag for what I do. I wonder if there will be a second version of this camera available at some point in the future-who knows. For me, the benefits outweigh the negatives, especially having just one battery for the entire system, built-in ND filters and stabilisation.
Great video and really want to try these lenses! For the weight issue I just put on a lightweight monopod. It weighs very little but allows me to set the camera down ( keeping hands on of course) to take some of the weight off between takes. Also attached a quick release if I want to remove the monopod quickly.
Thanks for this review Russel! Very informative 🤓! I have one question regarding the mk 1 version of the vdslr -> did you have to re-balance the gimbal (when you were using ronin) when you switch lenses? I am thinking of getting them with the adapter Ef-l mount 😊
Thanks!! So yes even with my other gimbal and original lenses I’d still need to rebalance a little just due to varying weight and sizes, same as they are now. Just don’t need to adjust the position of the follow focus as that’s always the same with the consistent gears so that’s one thing!
hi russel I have seen many ronin4d video, your work is fantastic! congratulations I will check your lut in your website! can you tell me please what is the counterweight you are using in your setup with samayang, is the dji official one? and what focus motor do you use in your setting, is the dji one or another one? thanks so much!
@@RussellKentNicholls I bought the Viltrox adaptor with the little OLED readout on top... I didn't stop to think that it might not fit the 4D's mount, and it doesn't.
For the weight problem, tDJI now have the extension kit for about $1000 so operators are now putting the bulk of the camera in a backpack and just holding the gimbal, sensor and lens.
not sure how im just seeing this but MAN I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS! and i hate to say it butttt i might be swapping my lens over to your current set up...
Forgive me if you mentioned it in the video...about to run out on a shoot myself, but how many ssds and batteries do you usually carry for a full day shoot?
Sorry for the late reply, I would go through 3/4 batteries in a day; I have 3 and always keep one on charge and rotate them. For a wedding shooting in H264, anything from 120-200GB footage by the end.
Hi, can you tell me what small mic that is on the ronin in the your talking head pieces to table? Just got a Ronin 4D and trying to figure out an onboard mic solution for atoms and 'Good enough' talking heads. I have a VideomicPro + that works great but it's huge. Great video. hope you can help.
Hi! It’s a VideoMicro - not amazing but good for ambient audio and most importantly for me, it’s tiny and requires no power 🙌 a slight upgrade from the internal microphone basically
Hello, great video! I also have these lenses with the Ronin 4D. However, I'm having trouble adjusting the LIDAR with these lenses. The focus is always a few centimeters in front of the subject, and it's never really sharp. Do you have any tips to help me out?
Hi! Thank you so much for your comment, I think it's to do with the calibration of the lenses. You might need to try again, it takes about 10 minutes per lens. I normally calibrate the infinity distance just as far as I can see in the distance, for example on some far away housing or something, and then do the closer distances in a large room, focusing on the same item over and over and making sure that it is sharp with the speaking. It's quite a tedious process but once you've done it once, it should be okay from there.
Hi Russell, I was wondering if your samyang VDSLR MK2 lens are Emount or if you use an adaptor? The Emounts were sold out so I got the RF mount and am using an adaptor..but I can't get the lens to calibrate...any suggestions?
I really hope someone can help me with the noise in the footage issue and especially shooting progress. LT I did so much banding in the sky and artifacts I literally almost feel like I made cost of a $10,000 mistake even though when using optimal lighting, the footage is amazing but when using natural why I’m getting crappy footage
Hi, are you using E-Mount? Others have mocked me in the Facebook group for suggesting this but after switching to L-Mount there’s zero noise for me now. Not sure if there’s some kind of digital interference going on or something but L-Mount fixed it!
Thank you for the informative video! I went to the Samyang website and they have a group called VDSLR II CINE and VDSLR MK2 CINE. Does the MK2 make a difference? Because I noticed with MK2 group there wasnt a 14mm but was available with the VDSLR II CINE group. Also the VDSLR II CINE lens were cheaper. Will they both work for the 4d?
Thanks for the info! Both will work on the 4D with the focus motor and the counterweight; I think MK2 is the all-black versions I'm using now, VDSLR II (or Mk1) are the one with the red ring design which are very very similar just less weather resistant (they're the original versions).
Yea I had to use an EF > E Mount adapter, I found a cheap one on Amazon for £30 but unfortunately I can’t remember the name - there’s no brand name on it more of just a black dummy ring mount.
Hello, im from spain and i want to buy one of this objetive for the ronin 4d-6k, but i dont have idea of what i need to adapt for example the "Samyang AF 35-150mm F2.0-2.8 FE for Sony E- All-in-one Zoom Lens with Focal Pair, Cinematic Video AF and Dolly Shot Zoom, Custom Switch, Weather Protection" to my camera ronin, could you help me with this please? thank you very much
Hi! I’m not sure if you need the counterweight with the 14mm since I have it attached permanently but if I were to guess, you wouldn’t need it as it’s the smallest and lightest (from memory). There’s no iris control as they’re all manual, and you will therefore need the focus motor too to operate it.
@@RussellKentNicholls calibrating it with the LiDAR. I add in like 10 different points and then after it’s complete I try to use autofocus and it stays out of focus
@@MegaLalalala23 hmm that’s weird, is it focusing at all? As in, is the focus motor moving? I found the best way to focus was by keeping the lens at T1.5, ND64, and pointing it out the window with the LiDAR covered to set infinity. Then using a magazine or something to to the close focus, 30cm, 50cm, 1m, 2m, 2.5m and so on.
I thought I read that there was a recent firmware update....that made it so you did not have to calibrate new lens..that the camera would do that automatically now.
Russel, I love your content mate. Your videos have inspired so many shooters! In all honesty, when I compare your Ronin footage to your previous S1h footage , the footage from the S1h looks better! I can’t quite describe it - but it definitely looks better!
Great to hear! Appreciate it :) Personally I think the Ronin footage looks better, maybe it could be a difference in colour science or gimbal movement that makes it look different.
what EF adopter your using please thanks for the informative video you are the best mate
Great video mate, you were a massive help for me when I purchased my 4D - I'm good for lenses but can't deny these lenses are great value for money.
Thanks so much for the feedback Dean!! I love this camera so much, and the lenses are a great value option for those who maybe don't have E Mount lenses yet :)
could you please share, what's your best pick in terms of lenses for Ronin 4D?
“If you’re thinking about buying the ronin 4D, I would probably recommend rent it, and then go take out a gym membership as well.” 😂 I love you! Obsessed with your work! And LOVE LUMIX!
Haha! Thank you! Typing this with aching arms 😅😅😅
Great video, thank you. Could you tell me which mount you have on your Ronin 4D? And what adapter did you use to fit those EF Samyang VDSLR MK2 lenses please? Thanks
Thank you!!! They were EF Mount lenses with an EF > E Mount on the Ronin, using a cheap Urth one 🙏
If you're struggling with the weight You should try the smallrig dual camera strap, You just attach the straps to the handles and It Will help to carry the weight with the whole body. It helped me shoot a whole day and don't feel it on My back and arms the next day.
Thanks for the tip! I actually just got a custom harness which is helping with the weight - I'm learning to trust it! Fingers crossed!!
What impacts the weight the most is what is being attached to the camera module because of the fulcrum lever principle. The longer the distance an object is from your hand position, the heavier it will feel. So if you kept the lens weight down, removed the included counter weight, use an active lens to avoid mounting the focus motor and removed the lidar (so manual focus only), then the 4D will feel feather light.
Thanks! I since switched over to L-Mount primes from LUMIX once the L-Mount was released for the 4D; eliminated the need for the counterweight and they're also much lighter.
Geat video thanks - I have just taken delivery of the 8K Ronin 4D combo which includes the native DL zoom lens (17-28mm) and SSD - trying to learn how to use it so your videos are great!
Thanks for sharing!! Very jealous of your 8K - I might have to upgrade!!
YESSSSS!! Been waiting for this video!! You rock, my man!
Hope you enjoyed it!
Would you ever use an easyrig? I reckon that combo would be awesome. Have you seen Justin Porter and his crazy set up?
I've not seen his setup, I'll have to take a look! I have a harness which is low profile; would love an easy rig but I worry for weddings it might be a bit too off-putting when trying to be discreet and such.
@@RussellKentNicholls I hear you, but you have to check Justin's TikTok, Insta and RUclips it's mind blowing. I know your typical UK wedding is very different to the US though for sure
Would love to see a video about calibrating manual lens for autofocus on the 4D. I don't feel like there's much out there on it from people who really use the system on shoots. Curious if you feel that the system works fairly consistently across all the manual lenses you've tried? Thanks for the great content.
Thanks!! Ahh there’s certainly a trick to it - although now I’m using the LUMIX L Mount lenses which means they’re electronic focus with the lidar.
Great to hear about your experience with the 4D brother, I've been watching all videos there are on youtube on this camera I think and I am still thinking because it is such a big investment!
But wow, your footage looks incredible...
I have one question, if I may: I heard some people say, that the customisation options with the gimbal are not that great. Is it possible to change the gimbal speed, smoothness and deadband to a point where it slowly stops instead of being pretty fast? Most of the footage, that I have seen is quite rapid.
Much love!
Hey!! Yes you can change it! Same as the RS series pretty much :)
@@RussellKentNicholls Thanks my man!
It really is an awesome bit of kit! Really interesting to see which lenses you are using.
One of the locations in the video looks familiar 😉
Oh my I've just found your channel, your work is incredible
Thank you so much!
At last! Thank you Russell! Definitely buy these lenses!❤
Glad you like them! Thanks so much!
Wonderful video!
Do you need a counterweight with the 14 mm 2.8? Also a focus motor ?
I hope to buy the 14mm for canon and the adapter you have so that this wide lens will work on my BMPCC 6K , as well as the 4D
Just got my Ronin 4D with e mount adaptor. Already have a set of sony primes... 20, 35, 85mm. Do cine lenses really give that much of a different look and are they worth the investment?
Another question, the Rode videomic mounted to the side. Doesnt it pickup the gimball sounds? As I read alot of comments that you have to mount your mic at a standoff from the gimball.
thx
Dji ronin 4d just got a big firmware update on 1/13/2022.this camera is pure magic. If you get the chance to to try this thing out you will feel like a kid again.
I’m really looking forward to updating mine, I think I’m going to recalibrate everything again!
Thank you for your review Russell. These are both products I am seriously considering investing in. I currently have the S1H with a standard zoom lens, but I'm in a position where I can afford to upgrade to the Ronin-4D alongside these VDSLR MK2 lenses. I'm curious, as you also had the S1H, do you still think the Ronin 4D is still worth investing in. I specialise in more narrative and commercial projects, so for me, my interest is in the unique shots and innovation/technology behind the camera, regardless of your crew size. But I'm surprised that not many content creators are talking about it
Thank you so much! Appreciate you watching it. The Ronin 4D is definitely a unique set up, however, having used it for the past year and a half I really am in love with it. Now it supports Panasonic lenses via the interchangeable mount, I can use the same autofocus lenses on both the Panasonic and DJI cameras, which means that I only really need three or four lenses in my kit bag for what I do. I wonder if there will be a second version of this camera available at some point in the future-who knows. For me, the benefits outweigh the negatives, especially having just one battery for the entire system, built-in ND filters and stabilisation.
Great video and really want to try these lenses! For the weight issue I just put on a lightweight monopod. It weighs very little but allows me to set the camera down ( keeping hands on of course) to take some of the weight off between takes. Also attached a quick release if I want to remove the monopod quickly.
Great video! When you add camera shake to your shots, is that in post or while shooting?
I think it’s whilst shooting with sport mode 🙌🙌
Thanks for this review Russel! Very informative 🤓! I have one question regarding the mk 1 version of the vdslr -> did you have to re-balance the gimbal (when you were using ronin) when you switch lenses? I am thinking of getting them with the adapter Ef-l mount 😊
Thanks!! So yes even with my other gimbal and original lenses I’d still need to rebalance a little just due to varying weight and sizes, same as they are now. Just don’t need to adjust the position of the follow focus as that’s always the same with the consistent gears so that’s one thing!
@@RussellKentNicholls thanks for your answer! Yes indeed that’s what I saw! I am eager to use my new lenses 🫣
hi russel I have seen many ronin4d video, your work is fantastic! congratulations I will check your lut in your website! can you tell me please what is the counterweight you are using in your setup with samayang, is the dji official one? and what focus motor do you use in your setting, is the dji one or another one? thanks so much!
Thanks so much!! I’m using the official counterweight & focus motor for the 4D :)
Great film. Nice images. Which EF-E mount are you using? Cheers
Thank you! This is the one I've been using: amzn.to/3xVoOjo
@@RussellKentNicholls I bought the Viltrox adaptor with the little OLED readout on top... I didn't stop to think that it might not fit the 4D's mount, and it doesn't.
@@chumpster69 ahh, that’s so annoying. The one I got was super cheap.
So, you dumped the Xeen CFs?
Legit makes my day when you post tbh.
Awww no way!! Thanks so much!
For the weight problem, tDJI now have the extension kit for about $1000 so operators are now putting the bulk of the camera in a backpack and just holding the gimbal, sensor and lens.
Ahh I knowwww but I don't wanna spend another £1000 and also I like the all-in-one form factor haha
Do an update video with your L mount glass!
You’re right, I do!!! No more focus motor or counterweight! 🙏
not sure how im just seeing this but MAN I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS! and i hate to say it butttt i might be swapping my lens over to your current set up...
It’s an amazingly cheap setup honestly!!
you should do small course online for this camera i will be first to buy it like settings editing behind the seance and so on
Forgive me if you mentioned it in the video...about to run out on a shoot myself, but how many ssds and batteries do you usually carry for a full day shoot?
Sorry for the late reply, I would go through 3/4 batteries in a day; I have 3 and always keep one on charge and rotate them. For a wedding shooting in H264, anything from 120-200GB footage by the end.
Hi, can you tell me what small mic that is on the ronin in the your talking head pieces to table? Just got a Ronin 4D and trying to figure out an onboard mic solution for atoms and 'Good enough' talking heads. I have a VideomicPro + that works great but it's huge. Great video. hope you can help.
Hi! It’s a VideoMicro - not amazing but good for ambient audio and most importantly for me, it’s tiny and requires no power 🙌 a slight upgrade from the internal microphone basically
Hello, great video! I also have these lenses with the Ronin 4D. However, I'm having trouble adjusting the LIDAR with these lenses. The focus is always a few centimeters in front of the subject, and it's never really sharp. Do you have any tips to help me out?
Hi! Thank you so much for your comment, I think it's to do with the calibration of the lenses. You might need to try again, it takes about 10 minutes per lens.
I normally calibrate the infinity distance just as far as I can see in the distance, for example on some far away housing or something, and then do the closer distances in a large room, focusing on the same item over and over and making sure that it is sharp with the speaking. It's quite a tedious process but once you've done it once, it should be okay from there.
Thank you for making this! I want the 4D so bad but can't commit haha
I too have camera commitment issues 😅😅
How do you adapt the lenses when they are ef mout? Or did they are e-mount?
These are EF! I adapted them EF > E using a cheap Urth adapter :)
Why cant i find anyone comparing DJI owns DL lenses to different lenses like the samyang VDSL lenses
Why don't you use lighter, e-mount manual primes?
I liked the original VDSLRs and wanted to test out the newer version
Hi Russell, I was wondering if your samyang VDSLR MK2 lens are Emount or if you use an adaptor? The Emounts were sold out so I got the RF mount and am using an adaptor..but I can't get the lens to calibrate...any suggestions?
I figured it out! I rewatched your video and saw that you mentioned.... manually calibrating the lens. I was using auto calibration.
Hey!! Well done glad you managed to make it work!
I really hope someone can help me with the noise in the footage issue and especially shooting progress. LT I did so much banding in the sky and artifacts I literally almost feel like I made cost of a $10,000 mistake even though when using optimal lighting, the footage is amazing but when using natural why I’m getting crappy footage
Hi, are you using E-Mount? Others have mocked me in the Facebook group for suggesting this but after switching to L-Mount there’s zero noise for me now. Not sure if there’s some kind of digital interference going on or something but L-Mount fixed it!
Hi Russel, what's the difference between the Samyang VDSLR MK2 and Samyang AS UMC II ? Thanks.
Hi! Oh, I am not sure - I do know there’s a MK1 and MK2 of the VDSLRs and they’re both quite similar :)
Very nice set up !!!
Thank you!!
Thank you for the informative video! I went to the Samyang website and they have a group called VDSLR II CINE and VDSLR MK2 CINE. Does the MK2 make a difference? Because I noticed with MK2 group there wasnt a 14mm but was available with the VDSLR II CINE group. Also the VDSLR II CINE lens were cheaper. Will they both work for the 4d?
Thanks for the info! Both will work on the 4D with the focus motor and the counterweight; I think MK2 is the all-black versions I'm using now, VDSLR II (or Mk1) are the one with the red ring design which are very very similar just less weather resistant (they're the original versions).
@@RussellKentNicholls Ahh ok I just ordered the 14 35 and 85. Super cheap for the originals. Thanks again!
@@RussellKentNicholls Did you have trouble balancing the pan axis with these lenses? Mine keeps leaning to the right no matter which way I adjust it
@@JTalentMusic yeah just because of the focus motor… I ignore it and it’s fine!
@@RussellKentNicholls Ok was I freaking out a bit, thank you!
Which EF lens mount did you use? Did you have to put it on the sony
Yea I had to use an EF > E Mount adapter, I found a cheap one on Amazon for £30 but unfortunately I can’t remember the name - there’s no brand name on it more of just a black dummy ring mount.
Hello, im from spain and i want to buy one of this objetive for the ronin 4d-6k, but i dont have idea of what i need to adapt for example the "Samyang AF 35-150mm F2.0-2.8 FE for Sony E- All-in-one Zoom Lens with Focal Pair, Cinematic Video AF and Dolly Shot Zoom, Custom Switch, Weather Protection" to my camera ronin, could you help me with this please? thank you very much
Hi! Thank you for your comment! I have this lens, unfortunately it is too large for the Ronin…
Samyang 35mm T1.5 VDSLR MK2 will fit and perform well in stability for Ronin 4D? How about Lens weight issue?
Lens weight is OK but needs the counterweight; I used the EF > E Mount and you’ll also need the focus motor of course :)
@@RussellKentNicholls I think cannot use counter weight and focus motor same time because focus motor and counter weight mount in same place right.
One other question.
Do you have full iris control of all of these lenses with the counterweight , focus motor and the Urth ef to e adapter ?
Thx
Hi! I’m not sure if you need the counterweight with the 14mm since I have it attached permanently but if I were to guess, you wouldn’t need it as it’s the smallest and lightest (from memory). There’s no iris control as they’re all manual, and you will therefore need the focus motor too to operate it.
I see so many times halation on your sample footages. Why don't you use a matte box?
On a gimbal it’s a bit overkill especially when needing to change lenses quickly; and I don’t mind a bit of imperfection:)
@@RussellKentNicholls ok, but possible to use a matte box for ronin 4D?
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How did you set up the Samyang 35 with LiDAR? I got this lens and the autofocus doesn’t calibrate correctly. Could you do a video on this?
Is it an AF lens or cine lens…? I found the AF lenses didn’t work for me on the Ronin 4D yet.
@@RussellKentNicholls it’s the vdslr mk2 samyang 35
@@MegaLalalala23 ahh okay; what issues are you having with it, can you describe it?
@@RussellKentNicholls calibrating it with the LiDAR. I add in like 10 different points and then after it’s complete I try to use autofocus and it stays out of focus
@@MegaLalalala23 hmm that’s weird, is it focusing at all? As in, is the focus motor moving? I found the best way to focus was by keeping the lens at T1.5, ND64, and pointing it out the window with the LiDAR covered to set infinity. Then using a magazine or something to to the close focus, 30cm, 50cm, 1m, 2m, 2.5m and so on.
I thought I read that there was a recent firmware update....that made it so you did not have to calibrate new lens..that the camera would do that automatically now.
Unfortunately not with these lenses as they are fully manual
Russel, I love your content mate. Your videos have inspired so many shooters!
In all honesty, when I compare your Ronin footage to your previous S1h footage , the footage from the S1h looks better! I can’t quite describe it - but it definitely looks better!
Disagree. Looks different but not better. Both look excellent though.
I think it looks better...!
Great to hear! Appreciate it :) Personally I think the Ronin footage looks better, maybe it could be a difference in colour science or gimbal movement that makes it look different.