It is relevant on two levels: - Khazars can't accuse everyone of being "antisemitic", including Arabs who ARE Semites, when they themselves are not. - The claim about a legendary "land of the fathers" becomes even more ridiculous when none of your ancestors were from there or ever lived there.
The root word Semite is like Caucasian. It means people who speak a similar language and live in the same area. All white people aren't from the Caucasus mountains, and the ones who are didn't travel about Eurasia like just about everyone else. Anti-Semitism is a deliberate inversion, it referrers to mostly Europeans.
A Japanese fellow converts to Islam, and 100 years later, his grandchildren claim to have roots in Arabia. Really? It dient change their faith, but they are Japanese not Arabs. Why is this complicated.
because european colonizers intentionally try to MAKE it complicated in order to hide the truth that the natives they are wiping out are probably much closer relatives to the ancient Hebrews than they will ever be
Funny I’m Palestinian and I did a DNA test and it’s 98% Levantine 2% Arabian peninsula. I can trace my lineage in falasteen 1600 years back. We are the indigenous PERIOD whether they like it or not
OK, but what if another Palestinian, who, unlike yourself, can trace their lineage in Falasteen only 200 years back, does a DNA test and the result shows that they are 70% Turkish and 10% Kurdish and 10% Albanian and 9% Bosnian and 1% from the Arabian peninsula, and the vast majority of their ancestors arrived in Falasteen during the Ottoman period? Would you then say that that person is less Palestinian than you are? Would you say that that person has less right to live in Falasteen than you have?
Palestinians and Ashkenazi Jews are ultimately Greek descent. One by way of the Mediterranean to Syria and Turkey. The other by way Mediterranean to Western Europe and Nordic Europe. Same DNA. Jewish, Islam and Arab isnt a race. Its a religion and culture.
@@markmarshall5234 That's just a guess, nothing real. Have you found a single Palestinian with that genetic makeup?. What happens to the “israelis” who neither have roots in the Middle East nor in Falasteen and their DNA takes them back to Europe 2000 years because they are Europeans converted to judaism 1000 years ago.
It does matter when people are using their claimed ancestory to claim the right to a land which you colonise & remove people who have inhabited the place for millennia, it very certainly matters!
They weren't required to leave, they rejected the partition plan and allied with the Arabs who told them to evacuate so they could conquer the region. But they lost, FAFO.
This is such a stupid argument. Consumer DNA tests don't measure ancient ancestry, they measure genetic relation to modern reference populations - when Ashkenazim take a consumer DNA test, it just identifies their DNA as Ashkenazi. It doesn't say anything about this issue. In any case actual DNA studies have long debunked the Khazarian hypothesis.
He's essentially saying it's true, but doesn't matter. Except that it does when making a historical claim to the land of Palestine. Khazar's were simply not there 2000 years ago and have no claim, regardless of "culture".
Even if it was true that they left 1.5 to 2 millennia ago, it's absurd to claim that you have an ancestral right when other people have been living continuously in the region since then. Chomsky has said the same thing before.
that also doesn't matter because you trying to say who lived there first owns the place. ALL those arguments are essentially irrelevant, as no one has produced a receipt signed by GOD for any land on this GLOBE all arguments are mute. Sure many books n stuff, but non of the books have actually been penned by God from cover to cover-either, sure many HUMAN assertion about receiving the "word" of God, funny always in THEIR favour mmm curious that one. No one has a RIGHT to any LAND, least over anyone else. End of discussion. The rest is a HUMAN construction, a loose legal framework, created to "make-it-so". Force does not equal right that is important here. BUT men are simple beings and very very very immature, the ego feeds possession, and they need a tribe to wave a flag. What can I say...its all CRAP, and MAN has made it so. Solution = all nations are illegal, all armies illegal, all weapons illegal, now try and live in peace. BUT BUT BUT...I can't explain how bored I am with HUMANS unbelievably simple retards.
He isnt claiming its true, he is sayig it doesnt matter, because throuout history dna changes in & out of a nation. also most Israelies arnt from Europe but from the Islamic world.
makes even bigger sense when you consider Zionism's roots is not in the bible, but in European colonialism of the 19th century. Palestine wasn't even their first choice, they were considering Uganda before. They didn't care about the bible and religion and DNA roots and anything like that, they were secular settlers from Poland, Germany, Belarus etc. coming to Palestine to claim the land off the indigenous population. pretty simple. This is the material reality we need to focus on, not made up stories and idealistic pretentions
100%!!!! I say they are colonizing liars. Who stole the land from the REAL Jews... And furthermore the original Hebrews are actually from the Americas and are copper colored.
@@xxxmikeyjockI was also thinking about Madagascar and how it probably would have been far more preferable to Uganda. That could have been a potentially beneficial situaiton for the Ashkenazi Jews and the world. Too bad it didn't work out.
@mattmacintosh4678. Good points and also the parallels between Zionism and Nazism are similar. There’s the shared theory of racial superiority and both groups had a vested interest is displacing Jews outside of Germany; Poland, Russia and other Eastern European countries. Nazis were occultists while many Zionist were and still are atheists. They shared the common goal of securing a “Jewish state “for the Jews. This is not synonymous with a homeland.
“ it’s not antisemitic. It’s just a question of fact “. Very powerful line that needs to be used A LOT more considering the games that are being played while Izzreal commits genocide
Even if they really are the original settlers of the land. It was their great9 grandparents who settled there. If my grandmother is originally from Germany & she move to America at some point. I should have no rights to go to Germany & confiscate other people's property. Millions of Americans with German ancestry should not have the right to steal German lands. The argument that they were the original settler shouldn't even be brought up at the first place because it's irrelevant.
Amazingly, you don't know German history-Hitler called upon all German emigres to return to the fatherland for war - their fundamental duty as a member of the Germanic tribes.@@secrets.295
@@Cbevly I know. But even if hypothetically speaking they are the descendants of the settlers of the land. That still doesn't give them the right to steal land & private properties.
So if there's no ancestral connection to the children of Israel what is the basis for claiming land occupied by others with ancestral connection hundreds or even thousands of years old. I agree with Dr Chomsky if the issue is cultural identity or religion but if your claim is ancestral, and it is, the claim is baseless without the ancestry.
The basis of zionist claim on the land is just money & power, then comes the lies after them, they created a lie and forced it on the world, there's no way Jerusalem and Nazareth were empty for thousands of years, this land always had her people and I don't think they looked like Netanyahu, jews belong to whatever country they came from to Palestine in the 20s century
•European colonialism continues.. this time they steal your land with fairytale history and fake archeology. •The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairytales, are European colonialism.
•1492, European colonialism: We discovered Atlantica (America). •1916, European colonialism: We are liberating the Holy land. •The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairytales, are European colonialism..
Listen I'm an arab but I advice not to be fool 1920s is totally different with nowadays poisnes you jew are way civilised and intellectual and our tyrants brainwashed us with this backward shit Islam and they live with their families in the western countries so in order to keep us prisoners of our own minds they build a lots of mosques and religious schools
Every human on earth shares over 99.9% of their DNA. It’s a dumb point to make. It’s cultures that define us and Palestine is just as guilty if not more so of demanding genocide as Israel. “From river to sea” as they say… if Arabs won in 1966 Jews would have been driven into the sea. Just as Turkey how that works.
Zionists abuse the science of genetics to serve their settler colonial agenda (See Nadia Abu El Haj, The Genealogical Science: The Search for Jewish Origins and the Politics of Epistemology). Today's Jews are converts and are not the decendants of the ancient Hebrews. The evidence is overwhelming (See The invention of the Jewish People by Shlomo Sand & The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler). Also, you can simply look at Jews faces, Ashkenazi look White, Mizrahi look Middle Eastern, Beta look Black, Morrocan Jews look Morrocan etc.
the zionists are supremacist colinisers hell-bent on power they don' really care about peace and coexistence they want absolute control and domination over land, air and sea in this territory and will not even tolerate the existence of Palestinians in their own homes and land
Professor Dean Phillip Bell, who is dean and professor of Jewish history at Spertus Institute of Jewish Studies in Chicago: “Jews under medieval Islam never suffered from the same general negative perception as in the Christian West. Despite regional variations and high medieval political instability, in medieval Islam multicultural environments, combined with active engagement in sciences and literature, led to something of an Islamic golden age for the Jews, at least according to most historical accounts. It has been primarily in the context of recent political developments that the once assumed positive views of Jewish life under medieval Islam have been seriously questioned.” Dean Phillip Bell, Jews in the Early Modern World. New York, 2008, p. 25.
It Matters a lot! When there are millions of people claiming that a land belongs to them because their ancestors lived there 1000s of years ago. Then we need to investigate if they are really the people, they claim they are. Otherwise, these fanatics will take the world into another world war.
If they are Khazars or not wont change those in power now that want to push their expansionist agenda. I doubt evidence with change their present plans. But perhaps evidence can help convince many others, especially the growing Israeli population that is against the apartheid and expansionism. I can see his point here. Not that it doesnt matter to claims. But that it has been 75 years and whether they are actually descendant from ancient Judah or not will not affect the reality of a present occupier group being present that wont be leaving anytime soon.
Lol he knows Ashkenazi have nothing to do with the original Jews and tries to play it off like it doesn’t matter when in fact it’s an extremely important detail.
GOOD All these intellectual fakes do is obfuscate facts, I'm talking about Chomsky, Harris, Peterson and all the rest (every single one of them). I say good because, I see too many people here getting wet for his intellect and it's the same thing elsewhere. People depend on the words of a wise men like they're in middle ages, like they cant read and research in this age.
And we really cannot have you or you're sort of people glossing over what's going on now in the present looking back to the bible bla bla is not working.
@@YvetteWilliams-dx2kk Yvette, nobody said anything about the Bible. We're talking documented history and genealogy. Many things in the history of the state of Palestine are public record and it fully supports our position. So I have no idea what you're on about. It sounds like you're going off pure emotion. Facts do not care about your emotions and whoever made you that emotional (Mainstream Media) None of you people can ever come up with any intellectual coherent position on why you're right, are you trying to keep it a secret or something?
@@YvetteWilliams-dx2kk What exactly are we glossing over? How does anyone talking about historical facts mean that we're glossing over anything? If you really thought that, then you should've pointed out exactly what we're "glossing over". If you can't say exactly what, then it's you who is glossing over and therefore you're just projecting your bullshit onto us
There is no Palestine, so there are no Palestinians. There was a Palestine, and the Palestinians were the Jews who lived there. Being "Palestinian" is not a race, ethnic, nor religious group, it is merely a geographic designation. The Jews of Palestine were the only people who regularly referred to themselves as Palestinians, and when people outside of Palestine referred to Palestinians they only meant the Jews/Hebrews. Those "Palestinians" changed the name of their bordered region to Israel in 1948, when they declared independence, so now they are Israelis.
The people who are now referred to as "Palestinians" may be arab; so fine, I agree they are arabs, If you want to call them something, call them NIMAs (non-Israeli muslim arabs). But they are not Palestinians. The adoption of the term "Palestinian" by the non-Israeli arabs who live in Gaza or the west bank cities was purely a public relations stunt to try and pretend that they have some claim to the land that exists west of the Jordan River. They have no ancestral or racial connection to the people who co-existed on that land with the Hebrews of Judea and ancient Israel, but that’s a separate anthropological issue (which is easily proven by any study of Middle East genetic anthropology).
If you don’t want to believe me, believe the muslim arab people themselves: "There is no such country as Palestine. Palestine is a term the Zionists invented. . . . Our country was for centuries part of Syria. Palestine is alien to us..." (Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937) "There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not." (Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian to Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, 1946) "It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria." (Delegate of Saudi Arabia to the United Nations Security Council, 1956) “Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel...” (Zuheir Muhsin, late Military Department head of the PLO and member of its Executive Council, Dutch daily Trouw, March 1977) In February 2014, Sheikh Ahmad Adwan, a Muslim scholar who lives in Jordan, recognized Israel’s historic right to live in the Holy Land on his personal facebook page. He wrote: “I say to those who distort their Lord’s book, the Koran: From where did you bring the name Palestine, you liars, you accursed, when Allah has already named it ‘The Holy Land’ and bequeathed it to the Children of Israel until the Day of Judgment,” the Sheikh stated.” Sheik Adwan continued, “There is no such thing as 'Palestine' in the Koran. Your demand for the Land of Israel is a falsehood and it constitutes an attack on the Koran, on the Jews and their land. Therefore you won’t succeed, and Allah will fail you and humiliate you, because Allah is the one who will protect them (i.e. the Jews).” I'm a native-American because I was born in America, but that doesn't mean that I can make a legitimate claim to belonging to the Sioux or Cherokee or Maidu tribes. To claim an ancestral right to land in New York so I can open a native-American gambling casino would be a fraud. If and when the non-Israeli muslim arabs ever finally decide to create one or two independent nation-states out of Gaza and the non-Israeli west bank cities, the people will most likely not even use the term "Palestine" in their permanent country name(s). Palestine is an English word based upon a Latin word used by the Romans to demean the conquered Judeans (the Jews). The Gazans and west bank arabs will ultimately do what the muslims of India did when their two nations were declared independent - they became Pakistan and Bangladesh. Although the people are Indians they didn't call their respective countries West India and East-Western India. They chose national names that are relevant to their personal real or imagined heritage. Ceylon and Burma are two good examples of non-muslim countries that followed this naming principal: They changed the names of their countries to Sri Lanka and Myanmar, respectively, and became Sri Lankans and Myanmese.
For muslim arabs to call themselves by a humiliating name selected by ‘European infidels’ to demean Jews should, and would, be an embarrassment to them.
Noam Chomsky is correct that human beings create cultural histories of themselves which can in no way diminish their rights as human beings. So too with the Khazar story. It does not matter whether it is historically accurate or not. However, when a people use a cultural history to produce a God-given right to displace another people from their homeland in order to realize a state of their cultural creation then that cultural invention does need to be exposed - not as an anti-Semitic enterprise but as a protection of the rights of innocent Palestinians who have had nothing to do with Jewish experience, history, and identity. Israeli contempt for the humanity of the Palestinians has become the essence of contemporary evil and Netanyahu has become the face of that evil. There are so many noble voices in Israel who know and protest against it. But their voices are drowned out and the US which sees itself as the pre-eminent moral voice of the world has chosen to be complicit in drowning out these voices. Chomsky's voice can still redeem the US if it chooses to listen to him.
The irony is it's the Palestinians who are the descendants of the ancient Jews. Their ancestors converted to Christianity under the Romans and then to Islam under the Arabs.
Not sure what point you are making here. Are you saying the Khazar question is important because: If modern Jews are descended from Khazars then modern Israel is a cultural invention, not a god-given right and it needs to be exposed to protect the rights of Palestinians; but If modern Jews are descended from ancient Israelites, then modern Israel is a god-given right , not a cultural invention and there is no need to protect the rights of Palestinians. This is different from what Chomsky is saying, which is "We should protect the rights of Palestinians, regardless of who modern Jews are descended from, so the Khazar question is irrelevant".
I don't think the US ruling class concerns itself with morality at all. (Which it wouldn't know anyway.) As warmonger Kissinger said, "We have only interests." Any talk of morality is mere justification for the exploits of empire.
@@wmyst1797 Israel a God given right? 🤣 That is jewish propaganda...we are all equal in God's eyes. Isn't it the jews that had Jesus Christ crucified? You all killed his son and Israels' god given right is eternal hatred.
@@wmyst1797orthodox Jewish people all over the world protest for the rights of Palestinians. They believe that God expelled them from that land and there is no right of return. The Zionist movement has nothing at all to do with religion - it’s a land grab and is now geared up for ethnic cleansing and genocide
AWARE THAT ITS ANTI-ISRAEL PROPAGANDA? THE FACT ITS A LIE AND HAS BEEN DISPROVEN COUNTLESS TIMES IN MODERN DNA TESTS IS EVERYWHERE ON THE INTERNET, GO READ SOMETHING.
Arthur Koestler wrote the book The Thirteenth Tribe. Surely the argument they have a right to the land cannot be maintained if they have no dna connection to Judah. Otherwise anybody could claim to be Jewish and have a right to it. We have so many whites claiming aboriginal heritage Iin Australia with its financial benefits.
Some DNA evidence does not put Ashkenazi in the Levant. Anybody can cook up DNA evidence. Some racist even claim Ancient Egyptians were not black African despite tons of eye-witness evidence from the Ancient Greeks who actually saw them. People will twist facts to suit their own political agendas. The racist apartheid system in South Africa argued that the white settlers landed in the region same as the blacks. It is a game!
•European colonialism continues.. this time they steal your land with fairytale history and fake archeology. •The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairytales, are European colonialism.
This is a wonderful admission that their DNA originates from Khazaria and does not indicate a “historical right to the land of Israel”. Thus, they must share the land with its original inhabitants. What a wonderful step toward peace!
@AlMaksiki The Mizrahi Jews have lived in the Levant and adjacent areas for thousands of years and about 50 percent of the Israeli Jewish population are Mizrahi Jews ✡️ and its obvious that you don't know the history of the Jews that that lived in Poland and Russia.
I'm not sure I understand what your point is here. But I hope you are not suggesting that the "admission that their DNA originates from Khazaria" confers on any contemporary Jews a "historical right to the land of Khazaria". Chomsky's whole point in the clip above is that biological descent from people who lived in a certain place hundreds or thousands of years ago is utterly irrelevant to any discussion about territorial rights today, in the 21st century. Either in Palestine-Israel or in the Russian and Ukrainian lands that comprise what was Khazaria over a thousand years ago.
@user-si4nt5gt9b my self I believe that , you can take the Magyar people who moved to Europe and founded Hungary, Magyars were parts of Khazaria , in nowadays lot of Jews among theme, Sarkozy ex French president as example, a Magyar jew
Between the 1100's and 1300's many Ashkenazi Jews moved to Poland and there are two reasons for this one was the increase in Pogroms which includes blood libel and putting poison in the wells even though they drank the same water and between the 1100's and 1300's various polish Kings inacted laws favorable to Jews and Casimir the great reinforced these existing laws and Jews had a safe haven in Poland.
I first got introduced to Noam Chomsky back in the 80's. It was an hour long programme on channel 4 in the UK, highlighting excerpts from some of his talks where he describes the structures and mechanisms of injustice. I had never heard anything like it before and I was literally entranced by him. The way he could calmly and rationally disassemble all of the accepted beliefs and assumptions of how the world was run and unassailably turn it all on it's head. Such an intellect and such a good man. In the end, all he does is fight for what's right. I love him.
Well you should learn about him a little more. He is a genocide denialist twice - first instance is a famous one and regards to Khmer Rouge genocide. The second one is not common knowledge - he questioned genoside in Srebrenica. Furthermore he lectured East European Countries why it was so wrong to get rid off Soviet Rule. On a footnote Marxist as Chomsky are very good in pointing out the misdeeds of capitalist society they will however turn a blind Eye to every atrocity which they will find justifiable on grounds on their PHILOSOPHIE. So I would not discourage you from listening to Chomsky but find a little bit more about him. On RUclips there is one hour long inquiry titled “ why Chomsky is Garbage “ made by PhD from Austria. You will find disturbing footage with Chomsky denying Srebrnica genocide.
I feel like the underlying point is that it doesn't matter. Having distant Levantine DNA from 1000+ years ago doesn't give you the right to return and displace a group of people that also are indigenous to the area. If I discover my DNA is Yoruba or Akan, that doesn't give me the right to come to Ghana or Nigeria and forcibly displace the people living there. Even when I am only a few centuries removed from that ancestry in the Americas (compared to 1000 years after Ashkenazi Jews left Levantine). I have to immigrate through legal channels like everyone else. Also DNA claims from 1000 years ago is useless, especially when you consider the dynamic immigration patterns of people over the centuries.
The silly part is, only a few olive growers were there to begin with. But freebies from the UN enticed tons of people to go and declare themselves 'Palestinians'. So most who are there just hopped in for the ride.
@@RawOlympiaAbsolutely flat out misinformation bullshit, but thanks for your contributions in spreading propaganda for a fascistic apartheid ethno-state.
@@Corc-Duibhne I have no skin in the game, just odd that it was all started by the ultra liberal United Nations and pushed for by progressives and now they bellyache about what indeed they pushed on the world. Not sure where you get your info, that nutty marxist prof or what, but it's true, grifters flooded in for the freebies.ruclips.net/video/LwryDZvNeK4/видео.html sadly, both nations are in the top ten for inbreds, so, glad to not be part of it.
750,000 palestinian refugees (the largest refugee crisis in recorded history) and their over 400 demolished palestinian towns prove you are a fool @@RawOlympia
@@RawOlympia Why do you claim to be a researcher and talk about conspiracies when you support these conspirators? Such as Satanists and those in charge of the mind control project They are behind the establishment of Israel and you are like them
I will never understand how Jewish people are a separate race. A separate culture and religious beliefs, though, just like any other group of people. They call themselves the Chosen People. I think that pisses many people off because it sets others up as less than them. They think of themselves as a superior human being. I see no difference in anyone else. Not all of them think that way, but it’s there. And it draws in a lot of hate and resentment from others. I am hearing many of them referring to Palestinians as rats who deserve death. Then when they are called out, they play the victim. The same goes for the anti-Semitism card they throw around to ward off criticism. Everybody is afraid to say anything because of that card being played. Now that most of the world is supporting Palestinians, they are crying victim again. It’s just bizarre.
It is not a race. It is a culture and a religion. They want to believe they are a race as "God's chosen people." And at the same time, many people will deny that Jews are not a race for their agenda. Fact is that the Jewish race is a complete myth.
You should start by separating the facts from the fiction for yourself. First being that the Jewish people are not their own race, they are Europeans. Religion and culture is also questionable because as said before they are Europeans, most Jewish people are either coverts to Judaism or descendants of coverts. And it goes on and on that every narrative of their origin falls apart with even a little scrutiny. Which is why they throw around the antisemitism slur to shut down debates and put the critics on the defensive.
"chosen people" is just a fairytale - they murdered, pillaged, destroyed, razed cities, killed livestock, stole & raped all in the name of their god and claim to be "holy" and "chosen" - and by descent aren't even genetically semitic - now we can add lying to the list...
All good except when people in power attempt to use the 5000 Year old BS that it was their land so get out...thats where the line is crossed and we should send them to the nuthouse, not $$$$
•1492, European colonialism: We discovered Atlantica (America). •1916, European colonialism: We are liberating the Holy land. •The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairytales, are European colonialism..
@@Ishi79 Hey, did you know your ancestors were in LAS VEGAS 8000 years ago. That means, it belongs to you and you can now get the police to go help you kick out the owners and take over CAESARS PALACE on the Strip! Really... apparentely, that's the new logic for the 21st Century
The bottom line is the imposters occupying the Holly land are not the Chosen People of the Bible but they are referred to in the scriptures revelation 2:9 and 3:9
They were not referred to in any so called scripture. They're mostly slavs. This was a well orchestrated plot by Europeans to control asia. Napoleon wanted palestine to become part of france.
I remember not so long ago you could not say that on YT with out getting a strike or flagged..Now that they exposed themselves to the world I guess they cant police the speech now.
Read acts 7:43 lol… it tells you whom they are there. 6 points 6 triangles 6 sided hexagon = ✡️ aka the “star of Remphan” their god molek. They stoned Stephen for revealing them then. And crucified Isho for revealing who they were while He walked among us. The “tares among His wheat”.
It makes a big difference. The Israelis claim the right of return to the land that God gave to the "seed" of the biblical patriarch Abram ; from whom they claim descent. The Ashkenazis are descended from Mongolian/Turkish Khazars, thus have no relation to Abram and no biblical claim to the land of Palestine. They are the people described in Revelation 2:9, "those who say they are Jews and are not, ...".
The problem with ancestral theory is that it does not answer the ancestry of say the Yemeni Jews or Beta Israel (Ethiopian Jews). The Ethiopian Jews are clearly Africa. Interestingly, they practice the Judaism we know in the bible.
It is scientifically and genetically not proven that the Jews descend from the Khazars. And concerning your quote from the Christian Bible: here are the real origins of 2000 years antisemitism starting with John. ( probably written in 200 AC).
•European colonialism continues.. this time they steal your land with fairytale history and fake archeology. •The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairytales, are European colonialism.
The reason the question of whether they are descended from a Turkic people is important is simply because it cuts through the bullshit that Jews are a Race AND a religion. It also deals with the deep-seated myth that God gave Jews Palestine which allows a New York Jew whose origin is Khazaria to claim he or she is returning to a land God gave him or her. In other words, it's the height of Chutzpah to claim the status of both. In other words, as Chomsky says, a Jew is a Jew is a Jew - but it has nothing to do with the so-called 12 Tribes of Israel, and the imbecilic claim that Israel is a 'race' and a religion. You don't, for example, have Muslims or Catholics claiming they are a Race and a people - they understand they comprise multiple ethnicities and therefore have no claim of or right to found a country in which only Catholics or Muslims can live at the expense of the original inhabitants. Only Israel - in this crazy world we live in - tries to impose its Fantasyland on the world, and most of all, the Palestinians.
I remember the first time someone tried to claim to me that Jewish people were a race. Race is enough of an abstract concept but to claim it based on belief in fairytales is ludicrous.
It seems to me that designating oneself as a separate race is exactly the sort of thing that real anti-semites (i.e., Nz's) can latch onto to exterminate a self-described group of people. If you're only a religion, you can convert -- or pretend to -- as some Jews did in Spain during the Inquisition. It seems self-destructive to want to be seen in racial terms.
@@MrDesmondPot But it is based on fairytales of a sort. What makes a Jewish person a Jew? Somebody who participates in the culture of Judaism. But here's the problem that dieter and I have.. If I came to your home and said "God made a promise to my family and this is MY HOUSE"... would you just say "Okay"? Because that's the reason why Israel is located where it is. Because in their religious text, that has talking snakes and magical angels and demons, and magic spells and divine intervention by some god, and they have other gods btw, they lay claim to that territory. Isn't that something that would be thought of as insane but for the fact that so many of us came from a Judeo-Christian background so we normalized it. I'll put it into context. The Americans claimed some manifest destiny ownership claims on the north american continent. Committed various crimes against humanity as well as genocide. Now, we have an entity called the USA. But was that correct? Did the americans actually have some god given claim to that land? Did the Belgians? The French? The Brits? And if so, does Russia have a right to Ukraine? And to all the other countries that were part of the USSR? I don't know where you're from, but I bet I can find a prior claim and then, what will you do? Will you just accept some highly dubious claim over your lived experience? You may think that it's silly to conflate race and ethnicity. But that's what the Israeli government is doing. They import Russian Jews (aka white people) but they deny other groups who claim Jewish heritage. Oh.. by the way, the other group has darker skin. I've come to the realization that Israel is a white ethnostate. It should not be supported until it starts getting a little more humane. (look up how Israelis treat asylum seekers who aren't white. I hate racists. I won't give the state of Israel a pass just because they had a holocaust. Loads of people have suffered. Look up what happened in the Belgium Congo as an example. Look at what happened in the US. That's what happens when you let racists flourish.) Get back to me when you can explain why I should respect a text that has talking snakes, magical aliens, ludicrous magical acts such as frogs, and a host of other nonsense. Also, explain why I can't hold the current Israel nation, that claims this text as their foundational reason, liable for the genocide of the original Caananite inhabitants? If they want to be held by that book, I have no problem throwing that book right at them. I'd like to see them make atonement to the victims of that ancient genocide. Fair's fair.
There is DNA evidence to link Jewish people back to the Middle East. The diaspora shows us this as well. It’s not fairytales based on the Bible, it’s history.
@@jenniferhunter4074 Easy...that book made the West. Stuff that isn't up for debate: one day the Emperor of Rome decided if he won this battle he'd convert, and he won so he did. He then allowed his empire to. Magically even though their own culture was very war like and very successful at doing that they for some reason did. This lead to that culture flourishing over everyone else and allowing them to dominate the world. In their domination they uplifted everyone and drug the entire planet into the modern era. Then doubt began to creep in and the West is falling apart. Either way you can go down the science path to explain this whole phenomenon like Darwin and the eugenicists did and claim it's because the white man is superior or you can go down the religious path. Either way the entire world's history is some sort of group who generally is associated with that book in some way ends up dominating the world. If it was a movie you'd say "it's probably that book" but because that means you'd have to follow what that book says you won't. As for the Canaanites and their relatives the Carthaginians just remember it wasn't just the God of the Hebrews who hated them, it was the Greeks, and the Romans. Hard to like people who sacrifice their kids to gods but what do you expect they worshipped a goddess? I cry for their extermination about as much as a I do for the Nazis, Aztecs, Soviets, etc. I know archaeologist try to claim when they find their burial sites that clearly are filled with ash and children's bones that it couldn't have possibly be what 3 different races/religions said it was but mind you all 3 of those groups fought each other as well so it seems odd they'd all work together to lie about child sacrifice. So you'd want to hold modern jews libel for the minor part in what the Romans mostly did and what most people to this day are OK with having occurred.
Before I begin, I am neither Arab nor Isrealis. I lament for the civilians on both sides who have been killed and / or injured. Especially the children on both sides, and the women and children who are left as widows and orphans on both sides. I've arrived at the same conclusion in my 30's. The Isrealites are "A" lost people, and today, we do not know who they truly are, neither do they know they are. (Possibly, an ethic group of black/dark skinned people. However, no one truly knows.) These people who call themselves Isrealis are people who are assuming an identity that is not theirs, yet most of them don't know that. (Except for a few who have studied the past and are honest with themselves. As well as a few of those who have a vested interest to continue to deceive all of their people into believing otherwise." Continuing on, sometime, in the distant past, Isrealite "missionaries" ventured into the Caucasus region and came across a group of people who were open-minded to be taught and emulate a new culture. Thereafter, they accepted Judaism: the traditions, rituals, practices, religion, etc. as their own. Later, as those "missionaries" died out: a new generation born afterward mistakenly believed they were the people of the Torah/Bible, as the Isrealite "missionaries" were long forgotten by then. Abraham and Sarah are from the eastern Middle East of what is today called Iraq (Babylon). Issac's wife, Rebekah, is from where Abraham and Sarah originated from. Jacob's wives, Rachel (his favorite), Leah, and his 2 concubines (the handmaidens to the sisters) are from where Abraham and Sarah originated from. Today, the people of Iraq are a lighter shade of brown due to back and forth conquests between Minor Asia, Africa, and Mediterranean Europe. However, back in Abraham and Sarah's day, these people were a darker skin shade of brown. The people who are assuming an identity that is not theirs, who identify as Isrealis: to our common sense of sight, are obviously of European descent!!!
None of the patriarchs were darker Skin. They were of the Aryan race which migrated into Europe. The Dead Sea Scrolls tell you what Sarah looked like!Brown people are the invaders of the Israelites. Jews are of Esau and not Jacob.
I disagree with you about the color theory ... look at the map of the world: Fo you think really that white people are just and were just from Europ??!! Also, the Civilizations in Iraq and Syria back to thousands of years BC and land of indigenous and immigrations from different places
The late president of Egypt Jamal Abdul Nasser, once taunted them saying, 'They were dark skinned 2000 years ago, when the Romans drove them out, and now, they have come back white'.
I have Jewish ancestry via my maternal grandmother's family. They were all fair skinned and with red hair. Not really a physical attribute you'd likely see in anyone from the Middle East or Mediterranean.
Wow, you also picked up on that quote? Good for you! Here’s why he said that: He’s right:”what happened in the Bible is NOT going to help”. Because these jew(ish)/ashkenazi/khazars/amalekites/edomites/Esau’s descendants know that they are NOT the chosen people of the book. Furthermore, the future judgement(s) awaiting them: Obadiah 1-21; Isaiah 14:1-2, 21; Ezekiel chapters 34, 35 & 36; Malachi 1:1-5; Romans 9:11-13; Hebrews 12:16-17; Revelation 2:9, 3:9, 13:10; etc.
“You will never be able to live here in peace, because you left here black and came back white” Gamal Abdel(1952) 2nd President of Egypt Gamal Nasser (Quote about fake jews currently in Israel) Gamal Nasser was the leader of Egypt from 1954 until his death in 1970.
I have always greatly admired Noam for his intellegence, rational coherence, and not least for his undiminished defence of the underdog. Having said that, I believe that in this particular case he is somehow off the mark. It is factual that we live in world of cultural and sometimes mythical constructs and that we usually just go along without making a fuss about them or even paying much attention because they seldom have noticeable repercussions in the real world, not to say tragic repercussions as in this case. The thing is that in this specific situation we are facing a different beast because it is precisely this cultural-mythical construct of jewishness that is being weaponised to legitimise a criminal settler colonial society as some sort of historical correction. The brutally criminal treatment of palestinians (as Noam has aknowledged and fought against throughout his life) has to be dismantled at every level of its construct be it cultural, historical or mythical. The jewish peolple, whatever that means for whoever, can "identify" as jewish, because some cultural tradition, as long as they want - even when they are openly outright atheist. But their "right to return to their historical land" is a scam even if they feel, because of the mythical world they identify with, it is not. The fact of the matter remains that "jews" are for the most part non-semitic peoples converted to judaism at different moments in time. Bringing to the forefront the falsehood on which the state of Israel has been built is of paramount importance to defend the right of palestinians to their whole land at both a historical and a practical demension.
@@mikev4621 I disagree with Noam when he is too ready to dismiss the visibilisation of the foundational scam of Israel, namely the right of jews to return to the lands from which they were supposedly expelled 2000 years ago as irrelevant to the present state of affairs. It is clearly pretty relevant when it is used by most defenders of Israel as one of the main arguments to justify the stealing of palestinian land (state of Israel) and the brutal ordeal of its people (Israel has the right to defend itself). Everywhere else I agree with Noam.
❤️Chomsky: ‘Israel is sharp discrimination against the Palestinians, illegal settlements in the West Bank, and killing the people of Gaza. Talking about what happened in the Bible is not going to help.’
Khazar Turks; It was a community of people who were science-loving, humane, interested in religious matters, and tolerant. DNA doesn't matter. If current Ashkenazi people have these features, they are Turkish. Otherwise, they have lost their Turkishness.
He doesn’t deny that it could be true. He merely says it’s irrelevant. This is like Chomsky when asked about Israeli Mossad involvement in 9.11. He doesn’t deny it, he just says it’s irrelevant. Whether you think he is right or wrong is up to you.
Chomsky is mistaken by one thing DNA matters very much as they claim to be an ethnicity not a culture, so DNA matters the most here and they are not semits I.E not real jews.
An ethno-religious group to be more precise. Look up the DNA studies... there is European admixture in some Ashkenazim, but also a clear and distinct connection to all other Jewish populations. Avail yourself of the science.
@edwardkantowicz4707 provide the study, if you are referring to a less than 1% heritage that all humans share then you are as all other zionists cherrypicking, it's a well know fact ashkinazy jews have no semite DNA, at best they have some khazar relations, and even the khazar are not semites macking them fake jews too, so i would ask you to avail yourself of the science little lying zionist.
Caucasians are from the Caucus mountains. White people aren’t from Israel. When attacked by the Romans, the Israelites fled into Africa. The actual Africans sold then into slavery. And there’s still a lot of them in west Africa, Nigeria, Igbo tribe.
Spoken like a true constructivist... Just that constructivism is the epitome of self-centered thought. While you can recognize the inevitability of having your own perspective being created from your experiences, constructivists take it to a whole new level where they willfully accept fantasy as fact. It makes a huge difference if Askenazi are not descendants of the biblical Jews. Not for me. Not for the Askenazi Jew with his "identity" - maybe. But for the American Evangelical apologists who believes he has to aid God's own people. That that makes a huge difference in terms of world politics.
Summarizing something usually means you need to understand what the person is saying first. You clearly don't so maybe you should watch the video again and pay attention this time
In his latest speech aimed at convincing the Israeli public of the necessity of war, netanyahu refers to the Bible, specifically the war against Amalek. If not as a call for the genocide of the Palestinian people, what does this appeal mean?
I am Israeli Jew and my DNA is 88% Levantine and 12% Iran/Persia... most arabs who claim to be "Palestinians" generally have Arabian/ middle eastern genetics mixed with north african genetics and jewish genetics. we dont base who can live in our country based on genetics. no country does.
You’re Arabic Persian and Jewish. Shalom azizam kossher nagoo digeh 😘 No need to mix the illegal settlements colony of whyte supremacy in this. You’re Arab Persian and Jewish. You may moved to occupied Palestine but believe me the whole world sees you as a Arab Persian not even as a jew except you walk around with religious clothing’s 😂
Professor Chomsky overlooks one very important fact :: The Jews who occupied Palestine in 1948 are from Eastern Europe. They lived in Europe for millenia and were oppressed by those Europeans for an equal number of millenia. They imposed themselves on Palestine and attached themselves to the history of that region ; claiming "god promised them that land". Eastern European Jews (Europe more generally), are related to the Khazars of the Caucasus/Caspian Sea areas. The Khazars moved to Eastern Europe and no matter how they were oppressed by Europeans, for all of those millenia, they were Jewish _Europeans._ Secondly :: Did "god" tell them that Uganda was also an option ? The responsibility of finding a Homeland for the European Jews, is Germany's responsibility which is much larger than Palestine.
I'm confused. There were no Arabs on that land until the Arab invasions started in the 7th century. You can correct me if I am wrong, but the Arabs came up from their Arabian peninsula and basically destroyed other people and cultures and imposed their own.
Canaanites? 🤣 you mean of one of the four sons of Ham? 😂🤣🤣 Ham, and his sons, according to the Pirke de Rabbi Eleazar Hyrcanus and its divisions of mankind, HAM and his 4 sons were blessed DARK LIKE THE RAVEN, and as an inheritance they were given the coasts of the sea.. Q. Are Ravens pale??????? Ofcourse not. Also, According to the least revised Zondervan Bible Dictionary, HAM became the PROGENITOR of the DARK RACES; -NOT- THE NEGRO, who are the true Semites of Sem/Shem, but of Ham's four sons: The Aethiopians ✔️ The Egyptians ✔️ The Libyans and, ✔️ The Canaanites.. ✔️ 👉🏾All of the sons of Noe are melanated smooth-skinned peoples, it is true! So, how many usurper IMPOSTOR tribes/nations are really over in that land? Many. Not just 1!
@@melaninrichblessdhighlyfavored I don't believe in Bible superstitions. Call them what you will, Palestinians carry the genes of the indigenous people of that region in the Stone Age
Oh look, it’s the old dude who said me and my family should be banished from society, left to die because we didn’t take an experimental drug. No respect for this hack after that display.
DNA analyses of both Jewish and Palestinian populations show a direct genetic heritage going back thousands of years to the original inhabitants of the Levant. They are basically the same people, separated by accidents of history. It is most likely that today's Palestinians were Jews, Jewish descent Christians, or Samaritans who converted to Islam after the Arab conquest. Ashkenazi Jews show some ancestral intermarriage with central Europeans, Mizrahi and Sephardic Jews maintained a purer connection, while a portion of today's Palestinians have a slight connection to Arabs through intermarriage. This small piece of land is the ancestral home to both Jews and Palestinians.
@@cysmcaleb8411 By DNA evidence, Jews and Palestinians are the same people, divided by accidents of history. Forced diasporas and conversions to Islam.
@@stephenbailey9969 Science can be bought and paid for. In fact, more often than not, it is, especially when there are political issues at stake. There have been multiple reports on the matter. Some done by Israelis themselves, that are contrary to the nonsense you're spewing out in a feeble attempt to lay claim to something that doesn't belong to you and never did.
Okay I caught this right away with Moses comment. He is saying whatever the truth may be they have made a dual truth to support who they claim to be. There can be an historical Moses (if he ever existed) and they have made their own Moses. Amazing, they will live and die with this type of thinking, knowing they have been called out for their obvious lie. Astonishing!
Exodus (God) didn't give them that homeland. The Balfour agreement did (man). They're converts and they're lying. Thankfully they didn't get Uganda, then they'd say they're straight African not polish, Germanic, etc. and would be warring with them. Just wow.
this is the logical answer for a person who has no problem with reason, but this doesn't concern today's zionist jews who have mixed two totally opposite theses that normally can't be associated and they seem to have no problem about it. Of course they have, and it leads them to lots of delusional problems and their need to use terrorism when they are confronted to the utter non-sense of their theories, in order to crush the controversies they cannot give a logical answer to.
So when you have a religious group that tends to intermarry within themselves and were largely segregated from the surrounding population, it becomes a lot easier to understand. Of course anyone who knows anything would already know this. You don't know this, but you feel comfortable acting like an authority on the subject. Why is that?
I can understand the TRUTH will be unsettling for many of you, especially those who were kept closeted, almost guarded from it, but you can only shelter the ears so much from REALITY. Its emergence is inevitable, even in your own heart is inevitable. It is only a matter of Time. As the saying goes, “Lies take the elevator, but the TRUTH takes the stairs…..”
@@naeemahmed5236 I've been down the academic and intellectual road for some 50 years and am thoroughly familiar with Chomsky. I suppose he appeals to a particular group of people with a specific persuasion, but it has nothing to do with "truth." He speaks of the "manufacture of consent" but he's an expert at the "manufacture of persuasive gullibility." It's impossible to be an expert in all areas, but he pretends to do so and pontificates from his chair of ironclad infallibility on all imaginable topics.
@@jade7602 My dear, with all due respect to you, this is not a question of possessing a certain expertise in a certain field to see what is clearly evident in PLAIN SIGHT. Mr Chomsky simply stated it as it is, knowing that to do otherwise would undermine his own credibility, and he wasn’t prepared to do that.
One of the few times I find myself disagreeing with Chomsky. In fact, I find it quite perplexing that he thinks that it's irrelevant and inconsequential. It's like, sure, you can still identify with the Jewish religion, and the culture, and the language, and the Biblical narratives, but the fact of the matter is that ethnically; you are technically not a descendant of any of the twelve Israelite tribes. Your ancestors weren't Jewish. Their Kingdom accepted Judaism as the state religion, and adopted the Jewish tradition and culture. Over time, they then moved North into Russia, and from there they went into Europe. After the wars, they moved to Palestina, and these are the same folks who now appeal to the Bible, claiming that they are God's elect people, and that this is the land that God promised them. But if there's a disconnect from the bloodlines, then the Ashkenazi claim is moot and void. They can't say this is antisemitic, because they're not ethnically Semitic themselves. I mean, they could've intermarried, so it's possible that some may have bloodties to Jews, but still; the appeal to the Bible now seems preposterous. What's even more ridiculous now is the fact that these people themselves are antisemites, because of their racial discrimination towards the Arabs. It would be irrelevant, if there wasn't a claim being made, based on what the Bible says. They are claiming to be a people they're not. Culturally, religiously, socially; it's all fine, but as soon as they're saying "this land is ours, because God gave it to us", well then now there's a problem.
The Khazars did not convert to Judaism, historian finds Taken together, Stampfer says, these sources offer a cacophony of distortions, contradictions, vested interests, and anomalies in some areas, and nothing but silence in others. A careful examination of the sources shows that some are falsely attributed to their alleged authors, and others are of questionable reliability and not convincing. Many of the most reliable contemporary texts, such as the detailed report of Sallam the Interpreter, who was sent by Caliph al-Wathiq in 842 to search for the mythical Alexander’s wall; and a letter of the patriarch of Constantinople, Nicholas, written around 914 that mentions the Khazars, say nothing about their conversion Citing the lack of any reliable source for the conversion story, and the lack of credible explanations for sources that suggest otherwise or are inexplicably silent, Stampfer concludes that the simplest and most convincing answer is that the Khazar conversion is a legend with no factual basis. There never was a conversion of a Khazar king or of the Khazar elite, he says.
Ashkenazi Jews are NOT Khazars Nine skeletons dating to the 7th-9th centuries excavated from elite military burial mounds of the Khazar Khaganate (in the modern Rostov region) were analyzed in two genetic studies (from 2019 and 2021). According to the 2019 study, the results "confirm the Turkic roots of the Khazars, but also highlight their ethnic diversity and some integration of conquered populations". The samples did not show a genetic connection to Ashkenazi Jews, and the results do not support the hypothesis of Ashkenazi Jews being descendants of the Khazars.
One of the great Faqih and Islamic Scholars Nuh b. Sâib el-Esedî and Abdurrahman b. Fulan al-Havlani made great contributions to the conversion of Khazar Khan's close circle to Islam. These were the people who were sent to spread the religion of Islam among the Khazar lands and the Khazar Turks, upon the special request of the Khazar Khan. As a matter of fact, Ibn Asem al-Kûfi, pointing to these auspicious developments, says: "Not only Hakan, the Khazar ruler became Muslim, but also thousands and tens of thousands of people from the city (Etil city) became Muslims, along with his family, close circle, and Khazar aristocrats." (Ibn Asem al-Kufi, III. p.255). The Khazars had the honor of establishing the first Turkish Islamic State in history. Jewish Manipulators and many historians could not accept the Khazar Khan and the Khazars' conversion to Islam, they put forward some unfounded views and therefore left the Khazars' Islam to the mercy of some Jewish ambitions, which is an unforgivable historical misery. The number of these Jews in the Khazar society mentioned in the main Islamic sources is around three thousand. Because of their religious beliefs, they were expelled from Byzantium and took refuge in the Khazar Turkish khanate. In the main sources, there is no narration about the conversion of a single Khazar Turk to Judaism in the presence of these Jewish Rabbis or about religious ceremonies held in this regard. Again, in these basic sources, no information is given about the Khazar Turks, who, unlike Muslims and Christians, accepted Judaism and became a society. Even more ridiculous than that, not a single synagogue was built in the Caspian homelands for these Khazar Turks, whose supposed numbers are expressed in thousands and hundreds of thousands. The Jewish minority has already paid special attention to this, and this feature of Judaism, that is, it is a national religion exclusive to Jews, has always been preserved. they wanted. To claim that the Khazar Turks became Judaized and to carry out so-called scientific research is to deny historical truths. A farce and hubris that Jewish Manipulators can do is to substitute the Science of History for a perjury.
He showed his true colors, as did many, during the scamdemic. I've had little respect this this dude for a long time but that was it as far as I'm concerned. This is what happens to intellectuals when they have a life of praise over their study discipline, in his case linguistics, they suddenly think they are the final authority in all things and all topics. AND his vocal drone affectation that effects ALL academics, but him especially, is on the far side of annoying.
Mans a scumbag that advocated for segregated the non vaxxed & I quote him "Like we do prisoners" & then said "Well thats on them" when it was pointed out that prisoners need feeding.
Chomsky, an anarchist, counsels people to vote Democrat in every US presidential election. This is bad advice for a lot of reasons...but so what? Chomsky is human and makes mistakes and sometimes he's even a hypocrite. FWIW I didn't agree with his position on Covid and there are other instances where I don't see eye to eye with him. But he almost single handedly red-pilled, as the kids say, an entire generation of people on US foreign policy and Israel's crimes against the Palestinians and taught them the importance of thinking "outside the box" and challenging conventional wisdom and the propaganda used to sell it. His eloquent and succinct defense of free speech ("If you’re really in favor of free speech, then you’re in favor of freedom of speech for precisely the views you despise. Otherwise, you’re not in favor of free speech") from the Manufacturing Consent film is priceless and sounds almost subversive in today's paranoid and authoritarian political climate. I really dislike the "with us or against us" attitude that prevails, where if a person says one thing I disagree with or is wrong about something...this makes them a fool, a dupe etc. and I should cast everything they have ever said or written into the trash bin. It's anti-intellectual and a kind of self-imposed cancel culture of the mind. It is also just plain silly...if I only read or respected the words and ideas of writers and thinkers I 100% agree with all the time on every issue, that would be a very short reading list indeed.
It matters when said people consider themselves "chosen by God" to "return" to "Is-Ra-El". One can't exactly return to some place they've never been. Furthermore, just look at the Israeli government, they are 99% Ashkenazi.
I think of the quote from the Wako guy David Karesh. Something to the effect of, "when the people find out how long they have been lied to, they will revolt with blood running in the streets."
Yes the Black Palestinians have a right to be there. Those who can trace their history back to the past Roman occupation of Palestine. The remainder of the population are the descendants of Arabs immigrants,Greeks ,and other nationalities. So if the people in Israel can’t trace their ancestors back to the ancient Israelites then maybe we should ask the true black Palestinians who the real Israelites are ?
With full respect to Dr. Chomsky, I disagree on the importance of DNA. If Ashkenazi Jews are of Khazar descent, they can keep being *culturally* Jews but in no way they are Semites. Therefore, they have to look for a land in the Caucasus and not in Palestine. Or even better, in the Central Asian steppes they origin from.
Yes, but, in case you didn't know, Ashkenazi Jews do, in fact have semitic DNA. There is no evidence, genetic or otherwise, that Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of Khazars.
Or the international community (Not only the West) could unite and together find an adequate piece of land in order to create a new Jewish state. There is plenty of land available in Australia, The USA, Argentina, Brazil, Canada, New Zealand etc.
Yes, you are correct. This is what I believe Chomsky is saying too. Strange and bizarre reasoning! But why and what does he not want to admit about the "Jews"?
pretty sure it's not been debunked by anyone credible. but yes, i don't think it's that important. except maybe to the actual sons of jacob who had their history stolen from them. but maybe even then it's not. @@Philoglossos
Wow. DNA doesn’t matter as long as there narratives does. Isn’t there something wrong about that? Huh 🤔. I guess we should thru out the biblical story too.
The hardest question you so-called White people have to ask yourself is are so-called Black people the Genealogical Descendants of the Biblical Israelites? And if so what does this mean for the world powers that has to this very day oppressed and held them in the lands of captivity that there Ancestors we’re either forcibly taken to or oppressed in? ☝🏾🤴🏾
@@davehughesfarm7983 I don’t know who you are first of all. And the most important way to identify the Hebrews in not by DNA but by the curses of Deuteronomy 28: 15-68 which the Most High said would be a “Sign” upon his chosen people (The Bloodline Israelites) forever (until the Messiah returns) Deuteronomy 28:48 “ 46And they shall be upon thee for a [sign] and for a wonder, and (upon thy seed for ever).” Understand that! ☝🏾🤴🏾
I'm amazed with the degree of _lucidity_ on complex subjects & articulation in Chomsky's arguments even this age! 👍 This was a great debate & full marks to his opponent for being respectful & polite! 👍
Don't overestimate Noam Chomsky neither. It's easy to repeat the same few memorized formulas all life long. You never ever forget them again. Even when you actually have no idea about what you're talking.
@@energiasrenovablesdevenezu6919 I think you're wrong. I've heard him speak multiple times and he's very clear in his thinking. It is the responsibility of the interviewer to probe or question if the response isn't satisfactory. One can disagree with Chomsky on things like climate change, Democrats, gun culture etc but on the whole his views on US foreign policy, foreign wars, militarism, civil rights, linguistic philosophy are impeccable.
@@V12F1Demon He is clear in his thinking, but not necessarily as bright as his image. At least, he's one of those, who prey water and drink wine, as his fatal relation with the Venezuelan regime, between 2010 and 2017, has clearly proven. Where he helped to establish a model that destroyed a complete society, caused millions of migrants, tens of thousands of death by repression, insecurity and missing medical aid. I was there, I know who he is, and that he's not that media figure I admired too, once ago.
Ashkenazi Jews are NOT Khazars Nine skeletons dating to the 7th-9th centuries excavated from elite military burial mounds of the Khazar Khaganate (in the modern Rostov region) were analyzed in two genetic studies (from 2019 and 2021). According to the 2019 study, the results "confirm the Turkic roots of the Khazars, but also highlight their ethnic diversity and some integration of conquered populations". The samples did not show a genetic connection to Ashkenazi Jews, and the results do not support the hypothesis of Ashkenazi Jews being descendants of the Khazars.
One of the great Faqih and Islamic Scholars Nuh b. Sâib el-Esedî and Abdurrahman b. Fulan al-Havlani made great contributions to the conversion of Khazar Khan's close circle to Islam. These were the people who were sent to spread the religion of Islam among the Khazar lands and the Khazar Turks, upon the special request of the Khazar Khan. As a matter of fact, Ibn Asem al-Kûfi, pointing to these auspicious developments, says: "Not only Hakan, the Khazar ruler became Muslim, but also thousands and tens of thousands of people from the city (Etil city) became Muslims, along with his family, close circle, and Khazar aristocrats." (Ibn Asem al-Kufi, III. p.255). The Khazars had the honor of establishing the first Turkish Islamic State in history. Jewish Manipulators and many historians could not accept the Khazar Khan and the Khazars' conversion to Islam, they put forward some unfounded views and therefore left the Khazars' Islam to the mercy of some Jewish ambitions, which is an unforgivable historical misery. The number of these Jews in the Khazar society mentioned in the main Islamic sources is around three thousand. Because of their religious beliefs, they were expelled from Byzantium and took refuge in the Khazar Turkish khanate. In the main sources, there is no narration about the conversion of a single Khazar Turk to Judaism in the presence of these Jewish Rabbis or about religious ceremonies held in this regard. Again, in these basic sources, no information is given about the Khazar Turks, who, unlike Muslims and Christians, accepted Judaism and became a society. Even more ridiculous than that, not a single synagogue was built in the Caspian homelands for these Khazar Turks, whose supposed numbers are expressed in thousands and hundreds of thousands. The Jewish minority has already paid special attention to this, and this feature of Judaism, that is, it is a national religion exclusive to Jews, has always been preserved. they wanted. To claim that the Khazar Turks became Judaized and to carry out so-called scientific research is to deny historical truths. A farce and hubris that Jewish Manipulators can do is to substitute the Science of History for a perjury.
The Khazars did not convert to Judaism, historian finds Taken together, Stampfer says, these sources offer a cacophony of distortions, contradictions, vested interests, and anomalies in some areas, and nothing but silence in others. A careful examination of the sources shows that some are falsely attributed to their alleged authors, and others are of questionable reliability and not convincing. Many of the most reliable contemporary texts, such as the detailed report of Sallam the Interpreter, who was sent by Caliph al-Wathiq in 842 to search for the mythical Alexander’s wall; and a letter of the patriarch of Constantinople, Nicholas, written around 914 that mentions the Khazars, say nothing about their conversion Citing the lack of any reliable source for the conversion story, and the lack of credible explanations for sources that suggest otherwise or are inexplicably silent, Stampfer concludes that the simplest and most convincing answer is that the Khazar conversion is a legend with no factual basis. There never was a conversion of a Khazar king or of the Khazar elite, he says.
It only matters when people try to claim other people's land, based on the idea that their ancestors actually originated there, and therefore they have some claim to it. I may say that I view myself as part of your family culturally, but that don't mean that I can take your house.
What's wrong with so many people, Noam Chomsky once again didn't say anything amazing or even true. The boys on this debate weremore accurate and even updated than him and are speaking from the historical and scientific point of view, facts not a personal or a religious opinion-believe. Chomsky is overated, he can fart that people would always say he is a genius. On this debate he kept repeating biased and wrong premises, I am afraid that he was aware of it but kept pushing his classic rhetoric no matter what. Also a bit classless to interrupt the other person considering his age, status, experience and cultural background. I really think most people are blinded by his intellectual Aura.
Instead of using history (biblical or otherwise) which can be refuted, how about we turn to science: genetics! Genetics can signify history, geography, ethnicity and even culture! This holy land in the Middle East, belongs to the peoples of the Middle East: Mizrahi Jews (Middle Eastern Jews -- some of whom were Palestinians themselves), Palestinian Christians & Palestinian Muslims {ordered by religious timeline} Ashkenazi Jews are not genetically from these lands in the Middle East; in fact, *they do not* come from the region at all, being primarily European -- and Eastern European more specifically! Though they share the same religion as Mizrahi Jews, Ashkenazi Jews have no more right to claim the land as _their_ homeland than Indonesian Muslims have the right to claim Mecca, and thus Saudia Arabia as _their_ homeland, or Irish Catholics have the right to claim the Vatican City, thus Rome, as _their_ homeland!! This is not to say that the Jews of the world do not deserve a homeland -- they do; but it does not give them the right to displace and occupy (let alone oppress and torment!) the indigenous Palestinians in their own homeland! Had the Middle Eastern Mizrahi Jews (Palestinian or otherwise) who are *at least* from the region, wished to separate and form a Jewish state, enclave, autonomous province, etc, of their own, then that would be different. They would have *a right to* on their shared land that would then have to be divided and shared with their *genetic* kin! *_If then,_* these Mizrahi Jews decided to invite their Ashkenazi (brothers? cousins??) to join them in this Jewish state on _their_ land, then that would have to be fine! But definitely *not* the way the Zionists have turned it out, where a Ukranian Jew, an American Jew, an Australian Jew and a South African Jew has *_"the right to return" (???!!)_* & own land when a Palestinian does not! As for "anti-semetism", it's definition and meaning has been trite and misused. Only peoples _from this region_ who have spoken the semetic languages _of this region_ can technically be called "Semites". Hence, you can call a Palestinian Muslim a semite, but not a Pakistani Muslim. Likewise a Mizrahi Jew is a semite, whereas an Ashkenazi Jew is not! Anti-semitism includes being racists to Arabs and Jews (especially the Semetic Arabs and Jews of the Levant or Shem lands). People hijack terms and then band them about freely and carelessly until their original meanings become morphed and twisted! We should aim at being wiser and more prudent about such things.
I am an Israelite but I respect the honesty of Noam Chomsky! He was right, in this world he was Jewish. His ancestors most likely converted to Judaism ages ago. He did not falsely claimed to be a descendant of the Ancient Israelites. The land was taken from us and It won't be returned till the end of this world. Esau is the end of the world and Jacob is the beginning of the world that comes after!
The important thing is human rights and that we ALL are supposed to have the same rights, regardless of ethnicity among other things. I’m ready for my Nobel Peace Prize now…
Agree! Have a look at this: www.קנאביס.com/wp-content/PDF/EARLY-DIFFUSION-AND-FOLK-USES-OF-HEMP-SULA-BENET.pdf I use this for an argument over which Bible translation to trust. Have anybody been upset over the receipt for Holy Oil being changed?
When you'll understand that "human rights" are their own inventions, through revolutions and the fabric of republic and "democracy", "liberty" and "freedom of speech" and all the BS we are fed with day and night, and that these rights have been invented to crush the moral duties conveyed by the very religions that were overthrown by these revolutions, you'll understand that we have fallen into a pit, coming from a very high level a moral duty to a pity of rights, everyone fighting for his own rights that is fighting for himself instead of working for the good of everybody.
I lost all my respect for him when I found out he’s against BDS movement and when he said unvaccinated people needed to be isolated from society for refusing to be jabbed. WTF! He’s a double agent
He was absolutely right about unvaccinated people. They had no right to endanger everyone else because of their stupidity. A person's rights end when they use them to endanger other people.
If the Khazar theory is correct, then Ashkenazi’s cannot claim to have ancestral ties to Palestine. That is the problem. It would be a false claim. And the Hebrews of the Bible are not the Ashkenazi group dominant in Israel today. Now, Sephardic, Mizrahi , Beta Israel and others may in fact be able to claim ancestral ties to the geographical area we now call Palestine or Judaea. It makes a difference because Ashkenazie Zionists have claimed a “return” to the land, when they were never there. This is one reason why Palestine is so hotly contested and bcuz the Arabs from the region are well aware of this when most of the West is not.
There are problems with your analysis, including (1) Ashkenazim are not the majority Jewish population in Israel anymore. They are outnumbered by Sephardic Jews & Mizrahi Jews. (2) Ashkenazim, Sephardim, and Mizrahim share some of the same genetic lineages of Middle Eastern origin.
It's the oil, the Khazarian Fake Jews want to rule the world, they need to control the oil to do so, it's an amazing coincidence that the majority of the oil just happens to be located near to the origin of their religion.
Of course it wouldn't matter if not for the fact that millions of 'Jewish' people are claiming their historic homeland is Israel, and that they have a divine right to return. I mean if a bunch of Mormons claim to be the lost tribe of Israel, don't think they'd get a passport to the Holy land Same as Rastafarians claimed to have a divine right to return to Ethiopia for example, when it was obviously pointed out that their claim to be of Ethiopian extraction had no basis in reality. From a religious point of view of course it doesn't matter as religions are by their nature fantastical, but when religious rights begin to cross over into the very real world of political rights, such tendentious claims take on a greater significance, Does it matter? I dare say it matters to the Palestinians being currently forced from their homes to make way for the alleged pale-faced children of Abraham. Which is not to say that Jews with little genetic connection to the Middle East should suffer persecution or not even be granted a homeland as protection from future genocidal attacks, after all, even if their Judaism is a later construct or revival, it's at least as old as Islam, but perhaps that homeland can be located somewhere that isn't in the heart of the middle east. Perhaps only Jews with a large Semitic DNA profile should have the right to stay in Palestine.
If I understand Chomsky correctly, he establishes the concept of Culture as a primary way to identify groups of people. It's not DNA, but Culture. Aren't the vast majority of Jews - including possibly Chomsky - adamant at maintaining the belief that Judaism must prevail, for all time? Isn't this the basis for the Jewish State? Isn't that maniacal drive - i.e., to maintain the survival of a Culture - what's really behind all the killing that has occured in the last hundred years in the Jew/Arab conflict? We thus must ask, why should the Jewish Culture survive above all else? The world doesn't need the The Jewish Culture, and in reality even Jews don't need the Tribe. Who other than Jews maintain such a demand, that their Culture survive above all? In all other Cultures, members inter marry and have children and enhance the the melting pot of the human race. The USA is made up of immigrants from many different nations and regions and religions and the like - broadly speaking, Cultures. Is there any other Cultural member so obsessed with maintaining their Culture, other than the vast majority of Jews? Do German Americans, Italian Americans, Amish Americans, Muslim Americans, Black Americans, or any other definable group of people that might have an inkling of political concern or intent, possess such an obstinate drive for survival of their Culture? Is not all this killing because of that drive? If so, can we not call it an unreasonable, or even insane, drive?
Only a few were actually living in Palestine. That is why it was chosen. But UN freebies caused greedy people to flock there and declare themselves as Palestinian. So rude to the OG Palestinian, you have this whole grifter population from other nations.
It is relevant on two levels:
- Khazars can't accuse everyone of being "antisemitic", including Arabs who ARE Semites, when they themselves are not.
- The claim about a legendary "land of the fathers" becomes even more ridiculous when none of your ancestors were from there or ever lived there.
This man is the ultimate scholarly gaslighter. I am truly floored by his educated nonsense. One day they will be forced to admit the truth.
The root word Semite is like Caucasian. It means people who speak a similar language and live in the same area. All white people aren't from the Caucasus mountains, and the ones who are didn't travel about Eurasia like just about everyone else. Anti-Semitism is a deliberate inversion, it referrers to mostly Europeans.
Today "antisemitic" means just "antijew". Yep it's a confusing term.
@@marianohernangutierrez2525because they Jewish appropriated that word as something about race
DNA doesn’t lie. Noam Chomsky does
A Japanese fellow converts to Islam, and 100 years later, his grandchildren claim to have roots in Arabia. Really? It dient change their faith, but they are Japanese not Arabs. Why is this complicated.
because european colonizers intentionally try to MAKE it complicated in order to hide the truth that the natives they are wiping out are probably much closer relatives to the ancient Hebrews than they will ever be
NO! They become Arabs by cultural tradition or a tradition they have adopted, thus in terms of they are Arabs. 🎻
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You don't make sense. Adopting a culture does not change your DNA.
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No they don't : Arab is an ethnicity : Muslem is NOT @@-o-light8863
Funny I’m Palestinian and I did a DNA test and it’s 98% Levantine 2% Arabian peninsula. I can trace my lineage in falasteen 1600 years back. We are the indigenous PERIOD whether they like it or not
Your ancestors were Jewish and forced to convert or be murdered by Muslims. Yes that is what happened inshallah
Say the fucking truth
OK, but what if another Palestinian, who, unlike yourself, can trace their lineage in Falasteen only 200 years back, does a DNA test and the result shows that they are 70% Turkish and 10% Kurdish and 10% Albanian and 9% Bosnian and 1% from the Arabian peninsula, and the vast majority of their ancestors arrived in Falasteen during the Ottoman period? Would you then say that that person is less Palestinian than you are? Would you say that that person has less right to live in Falasteen than you have?
Palestinians and Ashkenazi Jews are ultimately Greek descent. One by way of the Mediterranean to Syria and Turkey. The other by way Mediterranean to Western Europe and Nordic Europe. Same DNA. Jewish, Islam and Arab isnt a race. Its a religion and culture.
Free the hostages now philistine
@@markmarshall5234 That's just a guess, nothing real. Have you found a single Palestinian with that genetic makeup?.
What happens to the “israelis” who neither have roots in the Middle East nor in Falasteen and their DNA takes them back to Europe 2000 years because they are Europeans converted to judaism 1000 years ago.
It does matter when people are using their claimed ancestory to claim the right to a land which you colonise & remove people who have inhabited the place for millennia, it very certainly matters!
They weren't required to leave, they rejected the partition plan and allied with the Arabs who told them to evacuate so they could conquer the region. But they lost, FAFO.
I agree, now I am antisemetic, great
Bingo
Not sure that God was really into this "private property" thing-whether of land, money or anything else. Wasn't he more about "sharing things"?.
What about the peoples decendants that were driven Out of palestine by the hebrews claiming their god Had promised it to only them?
Its not a coincidence that DNA tests are not allowed in Israel.
It's no coincidence that somebody's brain is still lodged up his mom's...
@@MG-dj7jvinsulting doesn't make you right, it just makes you irrelevant
MyHeritage is an Israeli company ammiritte?
This is such a stupid argument. Consumer DNA tests don't measure ancient ancestry, they measure genetic relation to modern reference populations - when Ashkenazim take a consumer DNA test, it just identifies their DNA as Ashkenazi. It doesn't say anything about this issue. In any case actual DNA studies have long debunked the Khazarian hypothesis.
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He's essentially saying it's true, but doesn't matter. Except that it does when making a historical claim to the land of Palestine. Khazar's were simply not there 2000 years ago and have no claim, regardless of "culture".
Which is why the Zionists cling so heavily to being "semites" so they can claim the land! They are Not!
Israel does not care about DNA, only religion. The Palestinians' ancestors were there 2000 years ago.
Even if it was true that they left 1.5 to 2 millennia ago, it's absurd to claim that you have an ancestral right when other people have been living continuously in the region since then. Chomsky has said the same thing before.
exactly
that also doesn't matter because you trying to say who lived there first owns the place. ALL those arguments are essentially irrelevant, as no one has produced a receipt signed by GOD for any land on this GLOBE all arguments are mute. Sure many books n stuff, but non of the books have actually been penned by God from cover to cover-either, sure many HUMAN assertion about receiving the "word" of God, funny always in THEIR favour mmm curious that one.
No one has a RIGHT to any LAND, least over anyone else. End of discussion. The rest is a HUMAN construction, a loose legal framework, created to "make-it-so".
Force does not equal right that is important here.
BUT men are simple beings and very very very immature, the ego feeds possession, and they need a tribe to wave a flag.
What can I say...its all CRAP, and MAN has made it so.
Solution = all nations are illegal, all armies illegal, all weapons illegal, now try and live in peace. BUT BUT BUT...I can't explain how bored I am with HUMANS unbelievably simple retards.
'I have an ancestral right to this land, even though NONE of my ancestors ever came from this land!'
That scholar said its true but it doesnt matter
Or you say ‘I have might so I have all the right to occupy this land (of my fathers’s land).HELL WITH YOUR LAW.)
He isnt claiming its true, he is sayig it doesnt matter, because throuout history dna changes in & out of a nation. also most Israelies arnt from Europe but from the Islamic world.
Didn’t have to use that to invade Australia
@@MelaninMagdalene Every inhabited continent had Europeans trying to conquer it. Why single out Australia?
A lie is a lie, no matter how long you believe the lie. Truth matters.
100% agree
So what's the lie?
"no matter how tender, how exquisite... A lie will remain a lie... Young Hollow, knowing this, do you still desire peace?"
makes even bigger sense when you consider Zionism's roots is not in the bible, but in European colonialism of the 19th century. Palestine wasn't even their first choice, they were considering Uganda before. They didn't care about the bible and religion and DNA roots and anything like that, they were secular settlers from Poland, Germany, Belarus etc. coming to Palestine to claim the land off the indigenous population. pretty simple. This is the material reality we need to focus on, not made up stories and idealistic pretentions
100%!!!! I say they are colonizing liars. Who stole the land from the REAL Jews... And furthermore the original Hebrews are actually from the Americas and are copper colored.
They are the AntiChrist. Rev 2:9 they just using the Star of David as a prop and terrorize Christians and real Jews
Madagascar was also on the table. probably the best choice for the world
@@xxxmikeyjockI was also thinking about Madagascar and how it probably would have been far more preferable to Uganda. That could have been a potentially beneficial situaiton for the Ashkenazi Jews and the world. Too bad it didn't work out.
@mattmacintosh4678. Good points and also the parallels between Zionism and Nazism are similar. There’s the shared theory of racial superiority and both groups had a vested interest is displacing Jews outside of Germany; Poland, Russia and other Eastern European countries. Nazis were occultists while many Zionist were and still are atheists. They shared the common goal of securing a “Jewish state “for the Jews. This is not synonymous with a homeland.
“ it’s not antisemitic. It’s just a question of fact “. Very powerful line that needs to be used A LOT more considering the games that are being played while Izzreal commits genocide
Even if they really are the original settlers of the land. It was their great9 grandparents who settled there. If my grandmother is originally from Germany & she move to America at some point. I should have no rights to go to Germany & confiscate other people's property. Millions of Americans with German ancestry should not have the right to steal German lands. The argument that they were the original settler shouldn't even be brought up at the first place because it's irrelevant.
Amazingly, you don't know German history-Hitler called upon all German emigres to return to the fatherland for war - their fundamental duty as a member of the Germanic tribes.@@secrets.295
@@secrets.295they are not the settlers of the land! That’s why he answered the way he answered
@@Cbevly I know. But even if hypothetically speaking they are the descendants of the settlers of the land. That still doesn't give them the right to steal land & private properties.
Ignore the science...... follow the magic made-up book 😂... Pure ignorance
So if there's no ancestral connection to the children of Israel what is the basis for claiming land occupied by others with ancestral connection hundreds or even thousands of years old. I agree with Dr Chomsky if the issue is cultural identity or religion but if your claim is ancestral, and it is, the claim is baseless without the ancestry.
The basis of zionist claim on the land is just money & power, then comes the lies after them, they created a lie and forced it on the world, there's no way Jerusalem and Nazareth were empty for thousands of years, this land always had her people and I don't think they looked like Netanyahu, jews belong to whatever country they came from to Palestine in the 20s century
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazar_hypothesis_of_Ashkenazi_ancestry?wprov=sfti1#1806%E2%80%931918
_"what is the basis for claiming land occupied by others with ancestral connection hundreds or even thousand years old"_ - _GREED_
•European colonialism continues.. this time they steal your land with fairytale history and fake archeology.
•The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairytales, are European colonialism.
•1492, European colonialism: We discovered Atlantica (America).
•1916, European colonialism: We are liberating the Holy land.
•The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairytales, are European colonialism..
It actually matters greatly when you are trying to reclaim a land that doesn’t belong to you
So here the probleme is not the reason, as there is no, but the motivation that is at stake.
Muslims and Jews of Palestine share DNA. Jew. We must love one another. Living together like they did in 1920. Palestine was beautiful and peaceful.❣️
Listen I'm an arab but I advice not to be fool 1920s is totally different with nowadays poisnes you jew are way civilised and intellectual and our tyrants brainwashed us with this backward shit Islam and they live with their families in the western countries so in order to keep us prisoners of our own minds they build a lots of mosques and religious schools
Every human on earth shares over 99.9% of their DNA. It’s a dumb point to make. It’s cultures that define us and Palestine is just as guilty if not more so of demanding genocide as Israel. “From river to sea” as they say… if Arabs won in 1966 Jews would have been driven into the sea. Just as Turkey how that works.
Zionists abuse the science of genetics to serve their settler colonial agenda (See Nadia Abu El Haj, The Genealogical Science: The Search for Jewish Origins and the Politics of Epistemology). Today's Jews are converts and are not the decendants of the ancient Hebrews. The evidence is overwhelming (See The invention of the Jewish People by Shlomo Sand & The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler). Also, you can simply look at Jews faces, Ashkenazi look White, Mizrahi look Middle Eastern, Beta look Black, Morrocan Jews look Morrocan etc.
the zionists are supremacist colinisers hell-bent on power they don' really care about peace and coexistence they want absolute control and domination over land, air and sea in this territory and will not even tolerate the existence of Palestinians in their own homes and land
Professor Dean Phillip Bell, who is dean and professor of Jewish history at Spertus Institute of Jewish Studies in Chicago: “Jews under medieval Islam never suffered from the same general negative perception as in the Christian West. Despite regional variations and high medieval political instability, in medieval Islam multicultural environments, combined with active engagement in sciences and literature, led to something of an Islamic golden age for the Jews, at least according to most historical accounts. It has been primarily in the context of recent political developments that the once assumed positive views of Jewish life under medieval Islam have been seriously questioned.”
Dean Phillip Bell, Jews in the Early Modern World. New York, 2008, p. 25.
It Matters a lot! When there are millions of people claiming that a land belongs to them because their ancestors lived there 1000s of years ago. Then we need to investigate if they are really the people, they claim they are. Otherwise, these fanatics will take the world into another world war.
No need to "investigate." We can say: claims of ancient dwelling are irrelevant to who dwells where, in our era.
@@KCW-NYC And that is the way of the World. Why the the Juices of the Americas give their property to the American Indians???
@@user-ns3pr6hh9dnot going to happen
If they are Khazars or not wont change those in power now that want to push their expansionist agenda. I doubt evidence with change their present plans.
But perhaps evidence can help convince many others, especially the growing Israeli population that is against the apartheid and expansionism.
I can see his point here. Not that it doesnt matter to claims. But that it has been 75 years and whether they are actually descendant from ancient Judah or not will not affect the reality of a present occupier group being present that wont be leaving anytime soon.
@@KCW-NYC💯
Lol he knows Ashkenazi have nothing to do with the original Jews and tries to play it off like it doesn’t matter when in fact it’s an extremely important detail.
Exactly 💯
We can't allow these people to gloss over history and pretend that it's not relevant.
GOOD
All these intellectual fakes do is obfuscate facts, I'm talking about Chomsky, Harris, Peterson and all the rest (every single one of them).
I say good because, I see too many people here getting wet for his intellect and it's the same thing elsewhere. People depend on the words of a wise men like they're in middle ages, like they cant read and research in this age.
And we really cannot have you or you're sort of people glossing over what's going on now in the present looking back to the bible bla bla is not working.
@@YvetteWilliams-dx2kk Yvette, nobody said anything about the Bible. We're talking documented history and genealogy. Many things in the history of the state of Palestine are public record and it fully supports our position. So I have no idea what you're on about. It sounds like you're going off pure emotion. Facts do not care about your emotions and whoever made you that emotional
(Mainstream Media)
None of you people can ever come up with any intellectual coherent position on why you're right, are you trying to keep it a secret or something?
@@YvetteWilliams-dx2kk What exactly are we glossing over? How does anyone talking about historical facts mean that we're glossing over anything? If you really thought that, then you should've pointed out exactly what we're "glossing over". If you can't say exactly what, then it's you who is glossing over and therefore you're just projecting your bullshit onto us
It matters to the Palestinians. They are the true children of Israel.
There is no Palestine, so there are no Palestinians. There was a Palestine, and the Palestinians were the Jews who lived there. Being "Palestinian" is not a race, ethnic, nor religious group, it is merely a geographic designation. The Jews of Palestine were the only people who regularly referred to themselves as Palestinians, and when people outside of Palestine referred to Palestinians they only meant the Jews/Hebrews. Those "Palestinians" changed the name of their bordered region to Israel in 1948, when they declared independence, so now they are Israelis.
The people who are now referred to as "Palestinians" may be arab; so fine, I agree they are arabs, If you want to call them something, call them NIMAs (non-Israeli muslim arabs). But they are not Palestinians.
The adoption of the term "Palestinian" by the non-Israeli arabs who live in Gaza or the west bank cities was purely a public relations stunt to try and pretend that they have some claim to the land that exists west of the Jordan River. They have no ancestral or racial connection to the people who co-existed on that land with the Hebrews of Judea and ancient Israel, but that’s a separate anthropological issue (which is easily proven by any study of Middle East genetic anthropology).
If you don’t want to believe me, believe the muslim arab people themselves:
"There is no such country as Palestine. Palestine is a term the Zionists invented. . . . Our country was for centuries part of Syria. Palestine is alien to us..." (Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937)
"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not." (Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian to Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, 1946)
"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria." (Delegate of Saudi Arabia to the United Nations Security Council, 1956)
“Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel...” (Zuheir Muhsin, late Military Department head of the PLO and member of its Executive Council, Dutch daily Trouw, March 1977)
In February 2014, Sheikh Ahmad Adwan, a Muslim scholar who lives in Jordan, recognized Israel’s historic right to live in the Holy Land on his personal facebook page. He wrote: “I say to those who distort their Lord’s book, the Koran: From where did you bring the name Palestine, you liars, you accursed, when Allah has already named it ‘The Holy Land’ and bequeathed it to the Children of Israel until the Day of Judgment,” the Sheikh stated.”
Sheik Adwan continued, “There is no such thing as 'Palestine' in the Koran. Your demand for the Land of Israel is a falsehood and it constitutes an attack on the Koran, on the Jews and their land. Therefore you won’t succeed, and Allah will fail you and humiliate you, because Allah is the one who will protect them (i.e. the Jews).”
I'm a native-American because I was born in America, but that doesn't mean that I can make a legitimate claim to belonging to the Sioux or Cherokee or Maidu tribes. To claim an ancestral right to land in New York so I can open a native-American gambling casino would be a fraud.
If and when the non-Israeli muslim arabs ever finally decide to create one or two independent nation-states out of Gaza and the non-Israeli west bank cities, the people will most likely not even use the term "Palestine" in their permanent country name(s). Palestine is an English word based upon a Latin word used by the Romans to demean the conquered Judeans (the Jews). The Gazans and west bank arabs will ultimately do what the muslims of India did when their two nations were declared independent - they became Pakistan and Bangladesh. Although the people are Indians they didn't call their respective countries West India and East-Western India. They chose national names that are relevant to their personal real or imagined heritage. Ceylon and Burma are two good examples of non-muslim countries that followed this naming principal: They changed the names of their countries to Sri Lanka and Myanmar, respectively, and became Sri Lankans and Myanmese.
For muslim arabs to call themselves by a humiliating name selected by ‘European infidels’ to demean Jews should, and would, be an embarrassment to them.
@@marcrauch8213 White Jews didn’t come from the region now known as Israel. Their claim to that land was baseless.
Noam Chomsky is correct that human beings create cultural histories of themselves which can in no way diminish their rights as human beings. So too with the Khazar story. It does not matter whether it is historically accurate or not. However, when a people use a cultural history to produce a God-given right to displace another people from their homeland in order to realize a state of their cultural creation then that cultural invention does need to be exposed - not as an anti-Semitic enterprise but as a protection of the rights of innocent Palestinians who have had nothing to do with Jewish experience, history, and identity. Israeli contempt for the humanity of the Palestinians has become the essence of contemporary evil and Netanyahu has become the face of that evil. There are so many noble voices in Israel who know and protest against it. But their voices are drowned out and the US which sees itself as the pre-eminent moral voice of the world has chosen to be complicit in drowning out these voices. Chomsky's voice can still redeem the US if it chooses to listen to him.
The irony is it's the Palestinians who are the descendants of the ancient Jews. Their ancestors converted to Christianity under the Romans and then to Islam under the Arabs.
Not sure what point you are making here. Are you saying the Khazar question is important because:
If modern Jews are descended from Khazars then modern Israel is a cultural invention, not a god-given right and it needs to be exposed to protect the rights of Palestinians;
but
If modern Jews are descended from ancient Israelites, then modern Israel is a god-given right , not a cultural invention and there is no need to protect the rights of Palestinians.
This is different from what Chomsky is saying, which is "We should protect the rights of Palestinians, regardless of who modern Jews are descended from, so the Khazar question is irrelevant".
I don't think the US ruling class concerns itself with morality at all. (Which it wouldn't know anyway.) As warmonger Kissinger said, "We have only interests." Any talk of morality is mere justification for the exploits of empire.
@@wmyst1797 Israel a God given right? 🤣 That is jewish propaganda...we are all equal in God's eyes. Isn't it the jews that had Jesus Christ crucified? You all killed his son and Israels' god given right is eternal hatred.
@@wmyst1797orthodox Jewish people all over the world protest for the rights of Palestinians. They believe that God expelled them from that land and there is no right of return. The Zionist movement has nothing at all to do with religion - it’s a land grab and is now geared up for ethnic cleansing and genocide
I love the fact that many are becoming aware of this scam!
AWARE THAT ITS ANTI-ISRAEL PROPAGANDA? THE FACT ITS A LIE AND HAS BEEN DISPROVEN COUNTLESS TIMES IN MODERN DNA TESTS IS EVERYWHERE ON THE INTERNET, GO READ SOMETHING.
I’ve always thought Choam Nomsky was a scam, what did he do at the island , with Jeffery?
Yes...
@@michaelscrivani2721ask mossad
Sad it so loooong!
Arthur Koestler wrote the book The Thirteenth Tribe. Surely the argument they have a right to the land cannot be maintained if they have no dna connection to Judah. Otherwise anybody could claim to be Jewish and have a right to it. We have so many whites claiming aboriginal heritage Iin Australia with its financial benefits.
Some DNA evidence does not put Ashkenazi in the Levant. Anybody can cook up DNA evidence. Some racist even claim Ancient Egyptians were not black African despite tons of eye-witness evidence from the Ancient Greeks who actually saw them. People will twist facts to suit their own political agendas. The racist apartheid system in South Africa argued that the white settlers landed in the region same as the blacks. It is a game!
This is the point. It’s the Jewish State. Crazy man stuff
Judaism is a _religion_
jewish DNA - that is but an other name for the jewish race theorie of NAZI Germany
•European colonialism continues.. this time they steal your land with fairytale history and fake archeology.
•The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairytales, are European colonialism.
@@maxmustermann95871930: We are the perfect race.
2023: We are God's chosen race.
.. they are the same, just have changed names.
Jews by faith but Khazar by DNA. SIMPLES!!!
This is a wonderful admission that their DNA originates from Khazaria and does not indicate a “historical right to the land of Israel”. Thus, they must share the land with its original inhabitants. What a wonderful step toward peace!
Kevin alan brook who studied the Khazars for 30 years stated that 1-2 percent of the Khazar converted to Judaism.
you didn't look at Khazar using Google Maps in satellite view....hahahahaha
Maybe it could easier to attain peace if everyone goes back to the homeland of their grandparents: Russia, Germany, Poland, or Palestine.
@AlMaksiki The Mizrahi Jews have lived in the Levant and adjacent areas for thousands of years and about 50 percent of the Israeli Jewish population are Mizrahi Jews ✡️ and its obvious that you don't know the history of the Jews that that lived in Poland and Russia.
I'm not sure I understand what your point is here. But I hope you are not suggesting that the "admission that their DNA originates from Khazaria" confers on any contemporary Jews a "historical right to the land of Khazaria". Chomsky's whole point in the clip above is that biological descent from people who lived in a certain place hundreds or thousands of years ago is utterly irrelevant to any discussion about territorial rights today, in the 21st century. Either in Palestine-Israel or in the Russian and Ukrainian lands that comprise what was Khazaria over a thousand years ago.
The khazar are Turkic people converted to Judaism, after the fall of khazaria they moved to Europe and mixed with Slavs and Germans
They also have significant Iranian DNA.@user-si4nt5gt9b
@user-si4nt5gt9b my self I believe that , you can take the Magyar people who moved to Europe and founded Hungary, Magyars were parts of Khazaria , in nowadays lot of Jews among theme, Sarkozy ex French president as example, a Magyar jew
No its not true they didnt mix they became Kazakhs and other turkic people
No it is lies its not true - they stayed in Central Asia and became Kazakhs
Between the 1100's and 1300's many Ashkenazi Jews moved to Poland and there are two reasons for this one was the increase in Pogroms which includes blood libel and putting poison in the wells even though they drank the same water and between the 1100's and 1300's various polish Kings inacted laws favorable to Jews and Casimir the great reinforced these existing laws and Jews had a safe haven in Poland.
I first got introduced to Noam Chomsky back in the 80's. It was an hour long programme on channel 4 in the UK, highlighting excerpts from some of his talks where he describes the structures and mechanisms of injustice. I had never heard anything like it before and I was literally entranced by him. The way he could calmly and rationally disassemble all of the accepted beliefs and assumptions of how the world was run and unassailably turn it all on it's head. Such an intellect and such a good man. In the end, all he does is fight for what's right. I love him.
I would love to watch that
Though the idiots running the world don't listen to him, I still dread thinking of a world without his sage voice - wish he could live forever
He is a true Saint...Common sense and truth as it should be. He understands how hate works. We are all from the same source
We used to use his books and theories at university in the 70s. The horror!
Well you should learn about him a little more. He is a genocide denialist twice - first instance is a famous one and regards to Khmer Rouge genocide. The second one is not common knowledge - he questioned genoside in Srebrenica. Furthermore he lectured East European Countries why it was so wrong to get rid off Soviet Rule. On a footnote Marxist as Chomsky are very good in pointing out the misdeeds of capitalist society they will however turn a blind Eye to every atrocity which they will find justifiable on grounds on their PHILOSOPHIE. So I would not discourage you from listening to Chomsky but find a little bit more about him. On RUclips there is one hour long inquiry titled “ why Chomsky is Garbage “ made by PhD from Austria. You will find disturbing footage with Chomsky denying Srebrnica genocide.
Noam says he's of the tribe of Judah but his DNA says he's not.
He's full of bs
1. You don't have test results of his DNA.
2. Like he said, it doesn't matter, being Jewish has nothing to do with your DNA.
@@fafolaw😂
Bro, Jews are a race too.
I feel like the underlying point is that it doesn't matter. Having distant Levantine DNA from 1000+ years ago doesn't give you the right to return and displace a group of people that also are indigenous to the area. If I discover my DNA is Yoruba or Akan, that doesn't give me the right to come to Ghana or Nigeria and forcibly displace the people living there. Even when I am only a few centuries removed from that ancestry in the Americas (compared to 1000 years after Ashkenazi Jews left Levantine). I have to immigrate through legal channels like everyone else. Also DNA claims from 1000 years ago is useless, especially when you consider the dynamic immigration patterns of people over the centuries.
The silly part is, only a few olive growers were there to begin with. But freebies from the UN enticed tons of people to go and declare themselves 'Palestinians'. So most who are there just hopped in for the ride.
@@RawOlympiaAbsolutely flat out misinformation bullshit, but thanks for your contributions in spreading propaganda for a fascistic apartheid ethno-state.
@@Corc-Duibhne I have no skin in the game, just odd that it was all started by the ultra liberal United Nations and pushed for by progressives and now they bellyache about what indeed they pushed on the world. Not sure where you get your info, that nutty marxist prof or what, but it's true, grifters flooded in for the freebies.ruclips.net/video/LwryDZvNeK4/видео.html sadly, both nations are in the top ten for inbreds, so, glad to not be part of it.
750,000 palestinian refugees (the largest refugee crisis in recorded history) and their over 400 demolished palestinian towns prove you are a fool @@RawOlympia
@@RawOlympia Why do you claim to be a researcher and talk about conspiracies when you support these conspirators? Such as Satanists and those in charge of the mind control project
They are behind the establishment of Israel and you are like them
I will never understand how Jewish people are a separate race. A separate culture and religious beliefs, though, just like any other group of people. They call themselves the Chosen People. I think that pisses many people off because it sets others up as less than them. They think of themselves as a superior human being. I see no difference in anyone else. Not all of them think that way, but it’s there. And it draws in a lot of hate and resentment from others. I am hearing many of them referring to Palestinians as rats who deserve death. Then when they are called out, they play the victim. The same goes for the anti-Semitism card they throw around to ward off criticism. Everybody is afraid to say anything because of that card being played. Now that most of the world is supporting Palestinians, they are crying victim again. It’s just bizarre.
It is not a race. It is a culture and a religion. They want to believe they are a race as "God's chosen people." And at the same time, many people will deny that Jews are not a race for their agenda. Fact is that the Jewish race is a complete myth.
You should start by separating the facts from the fiction for yourself. First being that the Jewish people are not their own race, they are Europeans. Religion and culture is also questionable because as said before they are Europeans, most Jewish people are either coverts to Judaism or descendants of coverts. And it goes on and on that every narrative of their origin falls apart with even a little scrutiny. Which is why they throw around the antisemitism slur to shut down debates and put the critics on the defensive.
You know nothing
Project your own failings much.@@marylamb3194
"chosen people" is just a fairytale - they murdered, pillaged, destroyed, razed cities, killed livestock, stole & raped all in the name of their god and claim to be "holy" and "chosen" - and by descent aren't even genetically semitic - now we can add lying to the list...
All good except when people in power attempt to use the 5000 Year old BS that it was their land so get out...thats where the line is crossed and we should send them to the nuthouse, not $$$$
I can buy 5000 year old carbon-14 dated papers and write fairy tales on it, it doesn't mean this is 5000 years old history.
•1492, European colonialism: We discovered Atlantica (America).
•1916, European colonialism: We are liberating the Holy land.
•The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairytales, are European colonialism..
@@Ishi79 Hey, did you know your ancestors were in LAS VEGAS 8000 years ago. That means, it belongs to you and you can now get the police to go help you kick out the owners and take over CAESARS PALACE on the Strip! Really... apparentely, that's the new logic for the 21st Century
I’m so glad you guys get it! But they also want to fulfill the rest and worse of their biblical fantasies.
@@Ishi79 EXACTLY!!!!
The bottom line is the imposters occupying the Holly land are not the Chosen People of the Bible but they are referred to in the scriptures revelation 2:9 and 3:9
fact
The synagogue of Satan is wha they are called in the Revelations.
They were not referred to in any so called scripture. They're mostly slavs. This was a well orchestrated plot by Europeans to control asia. Napoleon wanted palestine to become part of france.
I remember not so long ago you could not say that on YT with out getting a strike or flagged..Now that they exposed themselves to the world I guess they cant police the speech now.
Read acts 7:43 lol… it tells you whom they are there. 6 points 6 triangles 6 sided hexagon = ✡️ aka the “star of Remphan” their god molek. They stoned Stephen for revealing them then. And crucified Isho for revealing who they were while He walked among us. The “tares among His wheat”.
It makes a big difference. The Israelis claim the right of return to the land that God gave to the "seed" of the biblical patriarch Abram ; from whom they claim descent. The Ashkenazis are descended from Mongolian/Turkish Khazars, thus have no relation to Abram and no biblical claim to the land of Palestine. They are the people described in Revelation 2:9, "those who say they are Jews and are not, ...".
The problem with ancestral theory is that it does not answer the ancestry of say the Yemeni Jews or Beta Israel (Ethiopian Jews). The Ethiopian Jews are clearly Africa. Interestingly, they practice the Judaism we know in the bible.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazar_hypothesis_of_Ashkenazi_ancestry?wprov=sfti1#1806%E2%80%931918
It is scientifically and genetically not proven that the Jews descend from the Khazars. And concerning your quote from the Christian Bible: here are the real origins of 2000 years antisemitism starting with John. ( probably written in 200 AC).
Judaism is a _religion_
jewish DNA - that is but an other name for the jewish race theorie of NAZI Germany
•European colonialism continues.. this time they steal your land with fairytale history and fake archeology.
•The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairytales, are European colonialism.
The reason the question of whether they are descended from a Turkic people is important is simply because it cuts through the bullshit that Jews are a Race AND a religion. It also deals with the deep-seated myth that God gave Jews Palestine which allows a New York Jew whose origin is Khazaria to claim he or she is returning to a land God gave him or her. In other words, it's the height of Chutzpah to claim the status of both. In other words, as Chomsky says, a Jew is a Jew is a Jew - but it has nothing to do with the so-called 12 Tribes of Israel, and the imbecilic claim that Israel is a 'race' and a religion. You don't, for example, have Muslims or Catholics claiming they are a Race and a people - they understand they comprise multiple ethnicities and therefore have no claim of or right to found a country in which only Catholics or Muslims can live at the expense of the original inhabitants. Only Israel - in this crazy world we live in - tries to impose its Fantasyland on the world, and most of all, the Palestinians.
I remember the first time someone tried to claim to me that Jewish people were a race. Race is enough of an abstract concept but to claim it based on belief in fairytales is ludicrous.
It seems to me that designating oneself as a separate race is exactly the sort of thing that real anti-semites (i.e., Nz's) can latch onto to exterminate a self-described group of people. If you're only a religion, you can convert -- or pretend to -- as some Jews did in Spain during the Inquisition. It seems self-destructive to want to be seen in racial terms.
@@MrDesmondPot But it is based on fairytales of a sort. What makes a Jewish person a Jew? Somebody who participates in the culture of Judaism. But here's the problem that dieter and I have.. If I came to your home and said "God made a promise to my family and this is MY HOUSE"... would you just say "Okay"? Because that's the reason why Israel is located where it is. Because in their religious text, that has talking snakes and magical angels and demons, and magic spells and divine intervention by some god, and they have other gods btw, they lay claim to that territory. Isn't that something that would be thought of as insane but for the fact that so many of us came from a Judeo-Christian background so we normalized it.
I'll put it into context. The Americans claimed some manifest destiny ownership claims on the north american continent. Committed various crimes against humanity as well as genocide. Now, we have an entity called the USA. But was that correct? Did the americans actually have some god given claim to that land? Did the Belgians? The French? The Brits?
And if so, does Russia have a right to Ukraine? And to all the other countries that were part of the USSR?
I don't know where you're from, but I bet I can find a prior claim and then, what will you do? Will you just accept some highly dubious claim over your lived experience?
You may think that it's silly to conflate race and ethnicity. But that's what the Israeli government is doing. They import Russian Jews (aka white people) but they deny other groups who claim Jewish heritage. Oh.. by the way, the other group has darker skin.
I've come to the realization that Israel is a white ethnostate. It should not be supported until it starts getting a little more humane. (look up how Israelis treat asylum seekers who aren't white. I hate racists. I won't give the state of Israel a pass just because they had a holocaust. Loads of people have suffered. Look up what happened in the Belgium Congo as an example. Look at what happened in the US. That's what happens when you let racists flourish.)
Get back to me when you can explain why I should respect a text that has talking snakes, magical aliens, ludicrous magical acts such as frogs, and a host of other nonsense. Also, explain why I can't hold the current Israel nation, that claims this text as their foundational reason, liable for the genocide of the original Caananite inhabitants? If they want to be held by that book, I have no problem throwing that book right at them. I'd like to see them make atonement to the victims of that ancient genocide. Fair's fair.
There is DNA evidence to link Jewish people back to the Middle East. The diaspora shows us this as well. It’s not fairytales based on the Bible, it’s history.
@@jenniferhunter4074 Easy...that book made the West.
Stuff that isn't up for debate: one day the Emperor of Rome decided if he won this battle he'd convert, and he won so he did. He then allowed his empire to. Magically even though their own culture was very war like and very successful at doing that they for some reason did. This lead to that culture flourishing over everyone else and allowing them to dominate the world. In their domination they uplifted everyone and drug the entire planet into the modern era. Then doubt began to creep in and the West is falling apart. Either way you can go down the science path to explain this whole phenomenon like Darwin and the eugenicists did and claim it's because the white man is superior or you can go down the religious path. Either way the entire world's history is some sort of group who generally is associated with that book in some way ends up dominating the world. If it was a movie you'd say "it's probably that book" but because that means you'd have to follow what that book says you won't.
As for the Canaanites and their relatives the Carthaginians just remember it wasn't just the God of the Hebrews who hated them, it was the Greeks, and the Romans. Hard to like people who sacrifice their kids to gods but what do you expect they worshipped a goddess? I cry for their extermination about as much as a I do for the Nazis, Aztecs, Soviets, etc. I know archaeologist try to claim when they find their burial sites that clearly are filled with ash and children's bones that it couldn't have possibly be what 3 different races/religions said it was but mind you all 3 of those groups fought each other as well so it seems odd they'd all work together to lie about child sacrifice.
So you'd want to hold modern jews libel for the minor part in what the Romans mostly did and what most people to this day are OK with having occurred.
Before I begin, I am neither Arab nor Isrealis. I lament for the civilians on both sides who have been killed and / or injured. Especially the children on both sides, and the women and children who are left as widows and orphans on both sides.
I've arrived at the same conclusion in my 30's. The Isrealites are "A" lost people, and today, we do not know who they truly are, neither do they know they are. (Possibly, an ethic group of black/dark skinned people. However, no one truly knows.) These people who call themselves Isrealis are people who are assuming an identity that is not theirs, yet most of them don't know that. (Except for a few who have studied the past and are honest with themselves. As well as a few of those who have a vested interest to continue to deceive all of their people into believing otherwise."
Continuing on, sometime, in the distant past, Isrealite "missionaries" ventured into the Caucasus region and came across a group of people who were open-minded to be taught and emulate a new culture. Thereafter, they accepted Judaism: the traditions, rituals, practices, religion, etc. as their own. Later, as those "missionaries" died out: a new generation born afterward mistakenly believed they were the people of the Torah/Bible, as the Isrealite "missionaries" were long forgotten by then.
Abraham and Sarah are from the eastern Middle East of what is today called Iraq (Babylon). Issac's wife, Rebekah, is from where Abraham and Sarah originated from. Jacob's wives, Rachel (his favorite), Leah, and his 2 concubines (the handmaidens to the sisters) are from where Abraham and Sarah originated from. Today, the people of Iraq are a lighter shade of brown due to back and forth conquests between Minor Asia, Africa, and Mediterranean Europe. However, back in Abraham and Sarah's day, these people were a darker skin shade of brown.
The people who are assuming an identity that is not theirs, who identify as Isrealis: to our common sense of sight, are obviously of European descent!!!
None of the patriarchs were darker Skin. They were of the Aryan race which migrated into Europe. The Dead Sea Scrolls tell you what Sarah looked like!Brown people are the invaders of the Israelites. Jews are of Esau and not Jacob.
I disagree with you about the color theory ... look at the map of the world: Fo you think really that white people are just and were just from Europ??!! Also, the Civilizations in Iraq and Syria back to thousands of years BC and land of indigenous and immigrations from different places
The late president of Egypt Jamal Abdul Nasser, once taunted them saying, 'They were dark skinned 2000 years ago, when the Romans drove them out, and now, they have come back white'.
I have Jewish ancestry via my maternal grandmother's family. They were all fair skinned and with red hair. Not really a physical attribute you'd likely see in anyone from the Middle East or Mediterranean.
We Have the same in North Africa with Muslim Berbers thinking they're Arabs...
Actually, the comments are more interesting than Chomsky's.
I agree 100%!!!
"and talking about what happened in the bible is not going to help"
Noam Chomsky
Wow, you also picked up on that quote? Good for you! Here’s why he said that:
He’s right:”what happened in the Bible is NOT going to help”. Because these jew(ish)/ashkenazi/khazars/amalekites/edomites/Esau’s descendants know that they are NOT the chosen people of the book. Furthermore, the future judgement(s) awaiting them: Obadiah 1-21; Isaiah 14:1-2, 21; Ezekiel chapters 34, 35 & 36; Malachi 1:1-5; Romans 9:11-13; Hebrews 12:16-17; Revelation 2:9, 3:9, 13:10; etc.
@@DGtheLevite
@@HuHWhat-yi8cp all praises and glory to the Most High Yah, our Power!
“You will never be able to live here in peace, because you left here black and came back white” Gamal Abdel(1952) 2nd President of Egypt Gamal Nasser (Quote about fake jews currently in Israel) Gamal Nasser was the leader of Egypt from 1954 until his death in 1970.
I have always greatly admired Noam for his intellegence, rational coherence, and not least for his undiminished defence of the underdog. Having said that, I believe that in this particular case he is somehow off the mark.
It is factual that we live in world of cultural and sometimes mythical constructs and that we usually just go along without making a fuss about them or even paying much attention because they seldom have noticeable repercussions in the real world, not to say tragic repercussions as in this case.
The thing is that in this specific situation we are facing a different beast because it is precisely this cultural-mythical construct of jewishness that is being weaponised to legitimise a criminal settler colonial society as some sort of historical correction.
The brutally criminal treatment of palestinians (as Noam has aknowledged and fought against throughout his life) has to be dismantled at every level of its construct be it cultural, historical or mythical.
The jewish peolple, whatever that means for whoever, can "identify" as jewish, because some cultural tradition, as long as they want - even when they are openly outright atheist. But their "right to return to their historical land" is a scam even if they feel, because of the mythical world they identify with, it is not.
The fact of the matter remains that "jews" are for the most part non-semitic peoples converted to judaism at different moments in time.
Bringing to the forefront the falsehood on which the state of Israel has been built is of paramount importance to defend the right of palestinians to their whole land at both a historical and a practical demension.
I cant see where you disagree with NC
@@mikev4621
Same here.
💯%agree and very very well said!!👍
You just basically agreed on everything Noam said.
@@mikev4621 I disagree with Noam when he is too ready to dismiss the visibilisation of the foundational scam of Israel, namely the right of jews to return to the lands from which they were supposedly expelled 2000 years ago as irrelevant to the present state of affairs.
It is clearly pretty relevant when it is used by most defenders of Israel as one of the main arguments to justify the stealing of palestinian land (state of Israel) and the brutal ordeal of its people (Israel has the right to defend itself).
Everywhere else I agree with Noam.
❤️Chomsky: ‘Israel is sharp discrimination against the Palestinians, illegal settlements in the West Bank, and killing the people of Gaza. Talking about what happened in the Bible is not going to help.’
Khazar Turks; It was a community of people who were science-loving, humane, interested in religious matters, and tolerant. DNA doesn't matter. If current Ashkenazi people have these features, they are Turkish. Otherwise, they have lost their Turkishness.
He doesn’t deny that it could be true. He merely says it’s irrelevant. This is like Chomsky when asked about Israeli Mossad involvement in 9.11. He doesn’t deny it, he just says it’s irrelevant.
Whether you think he is right or wrong is up to you.
Chomsky, a Ukrainian Khazar. DNA denier Chomsky. Laughable.
Their entire basis is that it's the land of their ancestors when it isn't, how on earth is that irrelevant ?
Facts don't matter to Noam. Believing the lie is what matters.
After how many P@|€$+****** were deleted, fled to other nations, jailed and so on?!
It is all very, very relevant, I believe.
Its the crazy christian evangelistists that need to be told this😂😂
The fact remains that modern Jew have no claim to historical Palestine.
Chomsky is mistaken by one thing DNA matters very much as they claim to be an ethnicity not a culture, so DNA matters the most here and they are not semits I.E not real jews.
An ethno-religious group to be more precise. Look up the DNA studies... there is European admixture in some Ashkenazim, but also a clear and distinct connection to all other Jewish populations. Avail yourself of the science.
@edwardkantowicz4707 provide the study, if you are referring to a less than 1% heritage that all humans share then you are as all other zionists cherrypicking, it's a well know fact ashkinazy jews have no semite DNA, at best they have some khazar relations, and even the khazar are not semites macking them fake jews too, so i would ask you to avail yourself of the science little lying zionist.
You didn't understand the point he was making. You should watch the video again and pay attention this time
Territorially, theologically, culturally, even biologically, the Israelis have little claim to Palestine.
Caucasians are from the Caucus mountains. White people aren’t from Israel. When attacked by the Romans, the Israelites fled into Africa. The actual Africans sold then into slavery. And there’s still a lot of them in west Africa, Nigeria, Igbo tribe.
Thank you!!!
Spoken like a true constructivist... Just that constructivism is the epitome of self-centered thought. While you can recognize the inevitability of having your own perspective being created from your experiences, constructivists take it to a whole new level where they willfully accept fantasy as fact. It makes a huge difference if Askenazi are not descendants of the biblical Jews. Not for me. Not for the Askenazi Jew with his "identity" - maybe. But for the American Evangelical apologists who believes he has to aid God's own people. That that makes a huge difference in terms of world politics.
Absolutely.
A Liberian convert to Judaism, descendent of freed American black slaves, wanting to return to his father’s forelands in Judea. Imagine that.
Fun fact: all Israeli PMs were of white european slavic ancestry.
No Khazaris are Turkic not Slavic
Fun fact: you don't know that
@AmaanKhan-kc8ty Fun fact: it is not.
Did you do a DNA test on the prime ministers of Israel?
To sum up this and the other times he's addressed it, his primary response to Khazar theory is "Who give's a f***?"
That statement is an absolute deflection.
It's also exactly what Isaac Asimov said about his heritage.
Summarizing something usually means you need to understand what the person is saying first. You clearly don't so maybe you should watch the video again and pay attention this time
In his latest speech aimed at convincing the Israeli public of the necessity of war, netanyahu refers to the Bible, specifically the war against Amalek. If not as a call for the genocide of the Palestinian people, what does this appeal mean?
achbar solem moehammuslarryandcurly
The joke of Netanyahu's statement is that the so called Jewish people are the Amalekites.
I heard the man is an atheist that is quoting the Torah to justify Zionist war crimes which goes to the absurd ideology of Zionism!
I am Israeli Jew and my DNA is 88% Levantine and 12% Iran/Persia... most arabs who claim to be "Palestinians" generally have Arabian/ middle eastern genetics mixed with north african genetics and jewish genetics. we dont base who can live in our country based on genetics. no country does.
You’re Arabic Persian and Jewish. Shalom azizam kossher nagoo digeh 😘 No need to mix the illegal settlements colony of whyte supremacy in this. You’re Arab Persian and Jewish. You may moved to occupied Palestine but believe me the whole world sees you as a Arab Persian not even as a jew except you walk around with religious clothing’s 😂
With all due respect are you Mizrahi Jewish?
"we dont base who can live in our country based on genetics."
Yes, you do.
Vocês não têm nada a ver com os hebreus originais. São, na verdade, uma babel que vive num apartheid...
Professor Chomsky overlooks one very important fact ::
The Jews who occupied Palestine in 1948 are from Eastern Europe. They lived in Europe for millenia and were oppressed by those Europeans for an equal number of millenia.
They imposed themselves on Palestine and attached themselves to the history of that region ; claiming "god promised them that land".
Eastern European Jews (Europe more generally), are related to the Khazars of the Caucasus/Caspian Sea areas. The Khazars moved to Eastern Europe and no matter how they were oppressed by Europeans, for all of those millenia, they were Jewish _Europeans._
Secondly ::
Did "god" tell them that Uganda was also an option ?
The responsibility of finding a Homeland for the European Jews, is Germany's responsibility which is much larger than Palestine.
*Thank God they didn't choose Uganda.*
@@freedomlandz :: Imagine how Ugandans feel !!
I'm confused. There were no Arabs on that land until the Arab invasions started in the 7th century. You can correct me if I am wrong, but the Arabs came up from their Arabian peninsula and basically destroyed other people and cultures and imposed their own.
when facts don't care about your feelings...
I am grateful for elders that speak sence into the world.
The Palestinians are the indigenous people because they are the descendants of the Canaanites
Canaanites? 🤣 you mean of one of the four sons of Ham? 😂🤣🤣
Ham, and his sons, according to the Pirke de Rabbi Eleazar Hyrcanus and its divisions of mankind, HAM and his 4 sons were blessed DARK LIKE THE RAVEN, and as an inheritance they were given the coasts of the sea..
Q.
Are Ravens pale??????? Ofcourse not.
Also,
According to the least revised Zondervan Bible Dictionary,
HAM became the PROGENITOR of the DARK RACES; -NOT- THE NEGRO, who are the true Semites of Sem/Shem,
but of Ham's four sons:
The Aethiopians ✔️
The Egyptians ✔️
The Libyans and, ✔️
The Canaanites.. ✔️
👉🏾All of the sons of Noe are melanated smooth-skinned peoples, it is true!
So, how many usurper IMPOSTOR tribes/nations are really over in that land?
Many. Not just 1!
@@melaninrichblessdhighlyfavored
I don't believe in Bible superstitions. Call them what you will, Palestinians carry the genes of the indigenous people of that region in the Stone Age
Oh look, it’s the old dude who said me and my family should be banished from society, left to die because we didn’t take an experimental drug. No respect for this hack after that display.
What are you talking about?
DNA analyses of both Jewish and Palestinian populations show a direct genetic heritage going back thousands of years to the original inhabitants of the Levant.
They are basically the same people, separated by accidents of history.
It is most likely that today's Palestinians were Jews, Jewish descent Christians, or Samaritans who converted to Islam after the Arab conquest. Ashkenazi Jews show some ancestral intermarriage with central Europeans, Mizrahi and Sephardic Jews maintained a purer connection, while a portion of today's Palestinians have a slight connection to Arabs through intermarriage.
This small piece of land is the ancestral home to both Jews and Palestinians.
They are caphtor (Jeremiah 47:4, Amos 9:7)
@@cysmcaleb8411 By DNA evidence, Jews and Palestinians are the same people, divided by accidents of history. Forced diasporas and conversions to Islam.
No, they are not.
@@piscesman54 A person can choose to deny the science. But it is still the science.
@@stephenbailey9969 Science can be bought and paid for. In fact, more often than not, it is, especially when there are political issues at stake. There have been multiple reports on the matter. Some done by Israelis themselves, that are contrary to the nonsense you're spewing out in a feeble attempt to lay claim to something that doesn't belong to you and never did.
Chomsky on covid: Listen to the science
Chomsky on jews: Don't listen to the science
He wasn't listening to the science on covid either.
IS it true Israel does not allow DNA Tests?
Okay I caught this right away with Moses comment. He is saying whatever the truth may be they have made a dual truth to support who they claim to be. There can be an historical Moses (if he ever existed) and they have made their own Moses. Amazing, they will live and die with this type of thinking, knowing they have been called out for their obvious lie. Astonishing!
how about the fake jesus ?
True.
@@loupasternakOur redeemer real name is Yashua who the world calls Jesus Christ...
It's applicable when AshkeNAZI claim the right to the land, based on their assertion that it once belonged to their ancestors.
Indeed
Exodus (God) didn't give them that homeland. The Balfour agreement did (man). They're converts and they're lying. Thankfully they didn't get Uganda, then they'd say they're straight African not polish, Germanic, etc. and would be warring with them. Just wow.
I am baffled as to how DNA could be linked to any religion? 🤯
This is a history of people they were scattered in captivity and a group of people who are not them claiming to be them!
this is the logical answer for a person who has no problem with reason, but this doesn't concern today's zionist jews who have mixed two totally opposite theses that normally can't be associated and they seem to have no problem about it. Of course they have, and it leads them to lots of delusional problems and their need to use terrorism when they are confronted to the utter non-sense of their theories, in order to crush the controversies they cannot give a logical answer to.
Religion isn’t Hebrew… Hebrew are a people. That’s exactly the point….
So when you have a religious group that tends to intermarry within themselves and were largely segregated from the surrounding population, it becomes a lot easier to understand. Of course anyone who knows anything would already know this. You don't know this, but you feel comfortable acting like an authority on the subject. Why is that?
Great 👍😃 to hear from you,Noam 👍👌👏, humanitarian ceasefire needs to be started now ☮️☮️
calling for a ceasefire became antisemitic and repugnant now
This man ventures into areas far beyond his competence.
I can understand the TRUTH will be unsettling for many of you, especially those who were kept closeted, almost guarded from it, but you can only shelter the ears so much from REALITY. Its emergence is inevitable, even in your own heart is inevitable. It is only a matter of Time. As the saying goes, “Lies take the elevator, but the TRUTH takes the stairs…..”
@@naeemahmed5236
I've been down the academic and intellectual road for some 50 years and am thoroughly familiar with Chomsky. I suppose he appeals to a particular group of people with a specific persuasion, but it has nothing to do with "truth." He speaks of the "manufacture of consent" but he's an expert at the "manufacture of persuasive gullibility." It's impossible to be an expert in all areas, but he pretends to do so and pontificates from his chair of ironclad infallibility on all imaginable topics.
@@jade7602 My dear, with all due respect to you, this is not a question of possessing a certain expertise in a certain field to see what is clearly evident in PLAIN SIGHT. Mr Chomsky simply stated it as it is, knowing that to do otherwise would undermine his own credibility, and he wasn’t prepared to do that.
@@naeemahmed5236
Thank you for that enlightening response. And my name isn't "dear."
One of the few times I find myself disagreeing with Chomsky. In fact, I find it quite perplexing that he thinks that it's irrelevant and inconsequential. It's like, sure, you can still identify with the Jewish religion, and the culture, and the language, and the Biblical narratives, but the fact of the matter is that ethnically; you are technically not a descendant of any of the twelve Israelite tribes. Your ancestors weren't Jewish. Their Kingdom accepted Judaism as the state religion, and adopted the Jewish tradition and culture. Over time, they then moved North into Russia, and from there they went into Europe. After the wars, they moved to Palestina, and these are the same folks who now appeal to the Bible, claiming that they are God's elect people, and that this is the land that God promised them. But if there's a disconnect from the bloodlines, then the Ashkenazi claim is moot and void. They can't say this is antisemitic, because they're not ethnically Semitic themselves. I mean, they could've intermarried, so it's possible that some may have bloodties to Jews, but still; the appeal to the Bible now seems preposterous. What's even more ridiculous now is the fact that these people themselves are antisemites, because of their racial discrimination towards the Arabs. It would be irrelevant, if there wasn't a claim being made, based on what the Bible says. They are claiming to be a people they're not. Culturally, religiously, socially; it's all fine, but as soon as they're saying "this land is ours, because God gave it to us", well then now there's a problem.
The Khazars did not convert to Judaism, historian finds
Taken together, Stampfer says, these sources offer a cacophony of distortions, contradictions, vested interests, and anomalies in some areas, and nothing but silence in others. A careful examination of the sources shows that some are falsely attributed to their alleged authors, and others are of questionable reliability and not convincing. Many of the most reliable contemporary texts, such as the detailed report of Sallam the Interpreter, who was sent by Caliph al-Wathiq in 842 to search for the mythical Alexander’s wall; and a letter of the patriarch of Constantinople, Nicholas, written around 914 that mentions the Khazars, say nothing about their conversion
Citing the lack of any reliable source for the conversion story, and the lack of credible explanations for sources that suggest otherwise or are inexplicably silent, Stampfer concludes that the simplest and most convincing answer is that the Khazar conversion is a legend with no factual basis. There never was a conversion of a Khazar king or of the Khazar elite, he says.
Ashkenazi Jews are NOT Khazars
Nine skeletons dating to the 7th-9th centuries excavated from elite military burial mounds of the Khazar Khaganate (in the modern Rostov region) were analyzed in two genetic studies (from 2019 and 2021). According to the 2019 study, the results "confirm the Turkic roots of the Khazars, but also highlight their ethnic diversity and some integration of conquered populations". The samples did not show a genetic connection to Ashkenazi Jews, and the results do not support the hypothesis of Ashkenazi Jews being descendants of the Khazars.
One of the great Faqih and Islamic Scholars Nuh b. Sâib el-Esedî and Abdurrahman b. Fulan al-Havlani made great contributions to the conversion of Khazar Khan's close circle to Islam. These were the people who were sent to spread the religion of Islam among the Khazar lands and the Khazar Turks, upon the special request of the Khazar Khan. As a matter of fact, Ibn Asem al-Kûfi, pointing to these auspicious developments, says: "Not only Hakan, the Khazar ruler became Muslim, but also thousands and tens of thousands of people from the city (Etil city) became Muslims, along with his family, close circle, and Khazar aristocrats." (Ibn Asem al-Kufi, III. p.255). The Khazars had the honor of establishing the first Turkish Islamic State in history.
Jewish Manipulators and many historians could not accept the Khazar Khan and the Khazars' conversion to Islam, they put forward some unfounded views and therefore left the Khazars' Islam to the mercy of some Jewish ambitions, which is an unforgivable historical misery.
The number of these Jews in the Khazar society mentioned in the main Islamic sources is around three thousand. Because of their religious beliefs, they were expelled from Byzantium and took refuge in the Khazar Turkish khanate. In the main sources, there is no narration about the conversion of a single Khazar Turk to Judaism in the presence of these Jewish Rabbis or about religious ceremonies held in this regard. Again, in these basic sources, no information is given about the Khazar Turks, who, unlike Muslims and Christians, accepted Judaism and became a society. Even more ridiculous than that, not a single synagogue was built in the Caspian homelands for these Khazar Turks, whose supposed numbers are expressed in thousands and hundreds of thousands. The Jewish minority has already paid special attention to this, and this feature of Judaism, that is, it is a national religion exclusive to Jews, has always been preserved. they wanted.
To claim that the Khazar Turks became Judaized and to carry out so-called scientific research is to deny historical truths. A farce and hubris that Jewish Manipulators can do is to substitute the Science of History for a perjury.
He really dropped the ball on ethics during the pandemic... I dont trust him though he says a lot of interesting, well thought out stuff.
He showed his true colors, as did many, during the scamdemic. I've had little respect this this dude for a long time but that was it as far as I'm concerned. This is what happens to intellectuals when they have a life of praise over their study discipline, in his case linguistics, they suddenly think they are the final authority in all things and all topics.
AND his vocal drone affectation that effects ALL academics, but him especially, is on the far side of annoying.
Mans a scumbag that advocated for segregated the non vaxxed & I quote him "Like we do prisoners" & then said "Well thats on them" when it was pointed out that prisoners need feeding.
He's being completely ignorant to this very important question too.
Chomsky, an anarchist, counsels people to vote Democrat in every US presidential election. This is bad advice for a lot of reasons...but so what? Chomsky is human and makes mistakes and sometimes he's even a hypocrite. FWIW I didn't agree with his position on Covid and there are other instances where I don't see eye to eye with him. But he almost single handedly red-pilled, as the kids say, an entire generation of people on US foreign policy and Israel's crimes against the Palestinians and taught them the importance of thinking "outside the box" and challenging conventional wisdom and the propaganda used to sell it. His eloquent and succinct defense of free speech ("If you’re really in favor of free speech, then you’re in favor of freedom of speech for precisely the views you despise. Otherwise, you’re not in favor of free speech") from the Manufacturing Consent film is priceless and sounds almost subversive in today's paranoid and authoritarian political climate.
I really dislike the "with us or against us" attitude that prevails, where if a person says one thing I disagree with or is wrong about something...this makes them a fool, a dupe etc. and I should cast everything they have ever said or written into the trash bin. It's anti-intellectual and a kind of self-imposed cancel culture of the mind. It is also just plain silly...if I only read or respected the words and ideas of writers and thinkers I 100% agree with all the time on every issue, that would be a very short reading list indeed.
The power of words can create that which does not exist. ABRACADABRA!!!!!
Dna is the only thing that matters. If you're not something then you're not.
True
Chomsky has lost the plot: he needs to stop talking nonsense. His views on Covid were unacceptable.
It matters when said people consider themselves "chosen by God" to "return" to "Is-Ra-El".
One can't exactly return to some place they've never been. Furthermore, just look at the Israeli government, they are 99% Ashkenazi.
I think of the quote from the Wako guy David Karesh.
Something to the effect of, "when the people find out how long they have been lied to, they will revolt with blood running in the streets."
God thank you for your truth coming out ‼️👌🏾😭🤣 REVELATIONS 3:9 ‼️
Mr.Chomsky has aged!
Long live to the wise man! 🇯🇵
A wise man indeed!
It's really absurd when the Ashskenazi Jews talk about antisemitism, when they don't have anything to do with semitism.
Modern Palestinians are closest related living people to the Biblical Israelites.
Exactly. The Israelites converted to Christianity under the Romans and then, largely, to Islam under the Arabs and the Turks.
Palestinians, Lebanese,Druze, Samaritans and some jews not all.
False
Yes the Black Palestinians have a right to be there. Those who can trace their history back to the past Roman occupation of Palestine. The remainder of the population are the descendants of Arabs immigrants,Greeks ,and other nationalities. So if the people in Israel can’t trace their ancestors back to the ancient Israelites then maybe we should ask the true black Palestinians who the real Israelites are ?
With full respect to Dr. Chomsky, I disagree on the importance of DNA.
If Ashkenazi Jews are of Khazar descent, they can keep being *culturally* Jews but in no way they are Semites.
Therefore, they have to look for a land in the Caucasus and not in Palestine.
Or even better, in the Central Asian steppes they origin from.
Yes, but, in case you didn't know, Ashkenazi Jews do, in fact have semitic DNA.
There is no evidence, genetic or otherwise, that Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of Khazars.
Or the international community (Not only the West) could unite and together find an adequate piece of land in order to create a new Jewish state. There is plenty of land available in Australia, The USA, Argentina, Brazil, Canada, New Zealand etc.
Remember when Chumpsky said it’s “none of our business” what his relationship with epstein was?
So, did a DNA test show that Chomsky and Epstein are related?
It makes a huge difference since Christians base Israel claim to Holy Land is based on promise God made to Abrahams descendants..
So if your grandparents taught you that you are of British descent you are, even if your DNA is 100% Navajo ?
And that’s relevant how?
Yeah, and you can claim that England belongs to you and your family. You know, as long as you identify culturally as British.
Yes, you are correct. This is what I believe Chomsky is saying too. Strange and bizarre reasoning! But why and what does he not want to admit about the "Jews"?
@@simulacrum.ad.nauseam totally relevant to chomsky dismissing the fact the khazars have zero claim on israel
@@Jimi_Lee 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
Born in England, Culturally im British, history says im Caribbean. My Ancestry is African… can i become Anglo-Saxon??
You Jews are all alike. 😉
It’s not antisemitic it’s a fact. Omg he just said the same!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
It's not a fact, it's completely false and has been debunked for decades. What he's saying, which is correct, is that it doesn't matter either way.
pretty sure it's not been debunked by anyone credible. but yes, i don't think it's that important. except maybe to the actual sons of jacob who had their history stolen from them. but maybe even then it's not.
@@Philoglossos
@@Ishtarthemoon you can think what you want but fact is that there is no proof for the khazar hypothesis.
delusional. there's a ton of evidence, including DNA analysis.@@freneticjigsaw6007
"their history stolen from them" lmfao. obvious Christian or pagan brainlet.@@Ishtarthemoon
His knowledge and intelligence do not prevent him from sometimes saying something stupid and staying alive .
The truth hurts, huh??? Get therapy to deal with the realities of life.
Wow. DNA doesn’t matter as long as there narratives does. Isn’t there something wrong about that? Huh 🤔. I guess we should thru out the biblical story too.
he's correct. DNA doesn't matter, thinking it does is PURE fascism and nativism. Invalid, immoral, and unacceptable.
He's strayed into the field of mythology. Paging Joseph Campbell! They literally have a Luciferian symbol on their flag.
DNA tests are outlawed in Israel this tells a lot about the scam
The hardest question you so-called White people have to ask yourself is are so-called Black people the Genealogical Descendants of the Biblical Israelites?
And if so what does this mean for the world powers that has to this very day oppressed and held them in the lands of captivity that there Ancestors we’re either forcibly taken to or oppressed in? ☝🏾🤴🏾
The white black thing is a Khazar trick for control. Khazars are not white.
You very well could have Hebrew DNA but that dont mean that I dont. Understand this.
@@davehughesfarm7983 I don’t know who you are first of all. And the most important way to identify the Hebrews in not by DNA but by the curses of Deuteronomy 28: 15-68 which the Most High said would be a “Sign” upon his chosen people (The Bloodline Israelites) forever (until the Messiah returns)
Deuteronomy 28:48 “ 46And they shall be upon thee for a [sign] and for a wonder, and (upon thy seed for ever).”
Understand that! ☝🏾🤴🏾
I'm amazed with the degree of _lucidity_ on complex subjects & articulation in Chomsky's arguments even this age! 👍 This was a great debate & full marks to his opponent for being respectful & polite! 👍
Don't overestimate Noam Chomsky neither. It's easy to repeat the same few memorized formulas all life long. You never ever forget them again. Even when you actually have no idea about what you're talking.
@@energiasrenovablesdevenezu6919 I think you're wrong. I've heard him speak multiple times and he's very clear in his thinking. It is the responsibility of the interviewer to probe or question if the response isn't satisfactory. One can disagree with Chomsky on things like climate change, Democrats, gun culture etc but on the whole his views on US foreign policy, foreign wars, militarism, civil rights, linguistic philosophy are impeccable.
@@V12F1Demon He is clear in his thinking, but not necessarily as bright as his image. At least, he's one of those, who prey water and drink wine, as his fatal relation with the Venezuelan regime, between 2010 and 2017, has clearly proven. Where he helped to establish a model that destroyed a complete society, caused millions of migrants, tens of thousands of death by repression, insecurity and missing medical aid. I was there, I know who he is, and that he's not that media figure I admired too, once ago.
Ashkenazi Jews are NOT Khazars
Nine skeletons dating to the 7th-9th centuries excavated from elite military burial mounds of the Khazar Khaganate (in the modern Rostov region) were analyzed in two genetic studies (from 2019 and 2021). According to the 2019 study, the results "confirm the Turkic roots of the Khazars, but also highlight their ethnic diversity and some integration of conquered populations". The samples did not show a genetic connection to Ashkenazi Jews, and the results do not support the hypothesis of Ashkenazi Jews being descendants of the Khazars.
One of the great Faqih and Islamic Scholars Nuh b. Sâib el-Esedî and Abdurrahman b. Fulan al-Havlani made great contributions to the conversion of Khazar Khan's close circle to Islam. These were the people who were sent to spread the religion of Islam among the Khazar lands and the Khazar Turks, upon the special request of the Khazar Khan. As a matter of fact, Ibn Asem al-Kûfi, pointing to these auspicious developments, says: "Not only Hakan, the Khazar ruler became Muslim, but also thousands and tens of thousands of people from the city (Etil city) became Muslims, along with his family, close circle, and Khazar aristocrats." (Ibn Asem al-Kufi, III. p.255). The Khazars had the honor of establishing the first Turkish Islamic State in history.
Jewish Manipulators and many historians could not accept the Khazar Khan and the Khazars' conversion to Islam, they put forward some unfounded views and therefore left the Khazars' Islam to the mercy of some Jewish ambitions, which is an unforgivable historical misery.
The number of these Jews in the Khazar society mentioned in the main Islamic sources is around three thousand. Because of their religious beliefs, they were expelled from Byzantium and took refuge in the Khazar Turkish khanate. In the main sources, there is no narration about the conversion of a single Khazar Turk to Judaism in the presence of these Jewish Rabbis or about religious ceremonies held in this regard. Again, in these basic sources, no information is given about the Khazar Turks, who, unlike Muslims and Christians, accepted Judaism and became a society. Even more ridiculous than that, not a single synagogue was built in the Caspian homelands for these Khazar Turks, whose supposed numbers are expressed in thousands and hundreds of thousands. The Jewish minority has already paid special attention to this, and this feature of Judaism, that is, it is a national religion exclusive to Jews, has always been preserved. they wanted.
To claim that the Khazar Turks became Judaized and to carry out so-called scientific research is to deny historical truths. A farce and hubris that Jewish Manipulators can do is to substitute the Science of History for a perjury.
The Khazars did not convert to Judaism, historian finds
Taken together, Stampfer says, these sources offer a cacophony of distortions, contradictions, vested interests, and anomalies in some areas, and nothing but silence in others. A careful examination of the sources shows that some are falsely attributed to their alleged authors, and others are of questionable reliability and not convincing. Many of the most reliable contemporary texts, such as the detailed report of Sallam the Interpreter, who was sent by Caliph al-Wathiq in 842 to search for the mythical Alexander’s wall; and a letter of the patriarch of Constantinople, Nicholas, written around 914 that mentions the Khazars, say nothing about their conversion
Citing the lack of any reliable source for the conversion story, and the lack of credible explanations for sources that suggest otherwise or are inexplicably silent, Stampfer concludes that the simplest and most convincing answer is that the Khazar conversion is a legend with no factual basis. There never was a conversion of a Khazar king or of the Khazar elite, he says.
It only matters when people try to claim other people's land, based on the idea that their ancestors actually originated there, and therefore they have some claim to it. I may say that I view myself as part of your family culturally, but that don't mean that I can take your house.
If it takes an acknowledged and respected individual to state the childishly obvious, then so be it!
What's wrong with so many people, Noam Chomsky once again didn't say anything amazing or even true. The boys on this debate weremore accurate and even updated than him and are speaking from the historical and scientific point of view, facts not a personal or a religious opinion-believe. Chomsky is overated, he can fart that people would always say he is a genius. On this debate he kept repeating biased and wrong premises, I am afraid that he was aware of it but kept pushing his classic rhetoric no matter what. Also a bit classless to interrupt the other person considering his age, status, experience and cultural background. I really think most people are blinded by his intellectual Aura.
Instead of using history (biblical or otherwise) which can be refuted, how about we turn to science: genetics!
Genetics can signify history, geography, ethnicity and even culture!
This holy land in the Middle East, belongs to the peoples of the Middle East: Mizrahi Jews (Middle Eastern Jews -- some of whom were Palestinians themselves), Palestinian Christians & Palestinian Muslims
{ordered by religious timeline}
Ashkenazi Jews are not genetically from these lands in the Middle East; in fact, *they do not* come from the region at all, being primarily European -- and Eastern European more specifically!
Though they share the same religion as Mizrahi Jews, Ashkenazi Jews have no more right to claim the land as _their_ homeland than Indonesian Muslims have the right to claim Mecca, and thus Saudia Arabia as _their_ homeland, or Irish Catholics have the right to claim the Vatican City, thus Rome, as _their_ homeland!!
This is not to say that the Jews of the world do not deserve a homeland -- they do; but it does not give them the right to displace and occupy (let alone oppress and torment!) the indigenous Palestinians in their own homeland!
Had the Middle Eastern Mizrahi Jews (Palestinian or otherwise) who are *at least* from the region, wished to separate and form a Jewish state, enclave, autonomous province, etc, of their own, then that would be different. They would have *a right to* on their shared land that would then have to be divided and shared with their *genetic* kin! *_If then,_* these Mizrahi Jews decided to invite their Ashkenazi (brothers? cousins??) to join them in this Jewish state on _their_ land, then that would have to be fine!
But definitely *not* the way the Zionists have turned it out, where a Ukranian Jew, an American Jew, an Australian Jew and a South African Jew has *_"the right to return" (???!!)_* & own land when a Palestinian does not!
As for "anti-semetism", it's definition and meaning has been trite and misused. Only peoples _from this region_ who have spoken the semetic languages _of this region_ can technically be called "Semites".
Hence, you can call a Palestinian Muslim a semite, but not a Pakistani Muslim. Likewise a Mizrahi Jew is a semite, whereas an Ashkenazi Jew is not!
Anti-semitism includes being racists to Arabs and Jews (especially the Semetic Arabs and Jews of the Levant or Shem lands).
People hijack terms and then band them about freely and carelessly until their original meanings become morphed and twisted! We should aim at being wiser and more prudent about such things.
ashkenazi and misrahi have 47% of the same dna and originate from the same paternal lineage and you try to divide us?
@@whatyouknowboutme no.. they dont.
@@-zeina-8008 yes they do? 💀
You ate and left no crumbs 👁️👄👁️
@@whatyouknowboutmeNo they don't
Basically, he admits the theory is right by not answering this question. Those people have no more claim to Palestine than another other Russians.
Chomsky is talking pure nonsense here and he knows it!
If my great, great, great... grandfather lived in a house in London, does that give me the right to go claim that house now?
Excelent example my friend! 🇵🇸💚❤️
I am an Israelite but I respect the honesty of Noam Chomsky! He was right, in this world he was Jewish. His ancestors most likely converted to Judaism ages ago. He did not falsely claimed to be a descendant of the Ancient Israelites. The land was taken from us and It won't be returned till the end of this world. Esau is the end of the world and Jacob is the beginning of the world that comes after!
The important thing is human rights and that we ALL are supposed to have the same rights, regardless of ethnicity among other things. I’m ready for my Nobel Peace Prize now…
Agree! Have a look at this: www.קנאביס.com/wp-content/PDF/EARLY-DIFFUSION-AND-FOLK-USES-OF-HEMP-SULA-BENET.pdf
I use this for an argument over which Bible translation to trust. Have anybody been upset over the receipt for Holy Oil being changed?
When you'll understand that "human rights" are their own inventions, through revolutions and the fabric of republic and "democracy", "liberty" and "freedom of speech" and all the BS we are fed with day and night, and that these rights have been invented to crush the moral duties conveyed by the very religions that were overthrown by these revolutions, you'll understand that we have fallen into a pit, coming from a very high level a moral duty to a pity of rights, everyone fighting for his own rights that is fighting for himself instead of working for the good of everybody.
Is he saying he doesn't care about the truth then? Logic and facts no longer matters? A no longer needs to equal A?
A person can be talented in one area, but be a complete ass in another...
I lost all my respect for him when I found out he’s against BDS movement and when he said unvaccinated people needed to be isolated from society for refusing to be jabbed. WTF! He’s a double agent
👍Thumbs up.
He was absolutely right about unvaccinated people. They had no right to endanger everyone else because of their stupidity. A person's rights end when they use them to endanger other people.
Let’s take a moment to mourn over this loss. I’ll inform Noam to join us as well.
If the Khazar theory is correct, then Ashkenazi’s cannot claim to have ancestral ties to Palestine. That is the problem. It would be a false claim. And the Hebrews of the Bible are not the Ashkenazi group dominant in Israel today. Now, Sephardic, Mizrahi , Beta Israel and others may in fact be able to claim ancestral ties to the geographical area we now call Palestine or Judaea. It makes a difference because Ashkenazie Zionists have claimed a “return” to the land, when they were never there. This is one reason why Palestine is so hotly contested and bcuz the Arabs from the region are well aware of this when most of the West is not.
There are problems with your analysis, including (1) Ashkenazim are not the majority Jewish population in Israel anymore. They are outnumbered by Sephardic Jews & Mizrahi Jews. (2) Ashkenazim, Sephardim, and Mizrahim share some of the same genetic lineages of Middle Eastern origin.
What would Khazarians want with Palestine if that’s not their homeland? I’m confused.
who cares? it's too long ago to matter anyway
@@ChannelMath
Why are you deflecting?
Black Americans are the Israelites. It's in our DNA and the bible.
It's the oil, the Khazarian Fake Jews want to rule the world, they need to control the oil to do so, it's an amazing coincidence that the majority of the oil just happens to be located near to the origin of their religion.
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It matters when they say they are God’s chosen people by Moses’ decree. Yes, it matters very much then.
Of course it wouldn't matter if not for the fact that millions of 'Jewish' people are claiming their historic homeland is Israel, and that they have a divine right to return.
I mean if a bunch of Mormons claim to be the lost tribe of Israel, don't think they'd get a passport to the Holy land
Same as Rastafarians claimed to have a divine right to return to Ethiopia for example, when it was obviously pointed out that their claim to be of Ethiopian extraction had no basis in reality.
From a religious point of view of course it doesn't matter as religions are by their nature fantastical, but when religious rights begin to cross over into the very real world of political rights, such tendentious claims take on a greater significance,
Does it matter? I dare say it matters to the Palestinians being currently forced from their homes to make way for the alleged pale-faced children of Abraham.
Which is not to say that Jews with little genetic connection to the Middle East should suffer persecution or not even be granted a homeland as protection from future genocidal attacks,
after all, even if their Judaism is a later construct or revival, it's at least as old as Islam, but perhaps that homeland can be located somewhere that isn't in the heart of the middle east.
Perhaps only Jews with a large Semitic DNA profile should have the right to stay in Palestine.
The Mormons do have a Holy land,,Its in Missouri,,,,And they are showing up fro Utah.
If I understand Chomsky correctly, he establishes the concept of Culture as a primary way to identify groups of people. It's not DNA, but Culture.
Aren't the vast majority of Jews - including possibly Chomsky - adamant at maintaining the belief that Judaism must prevail, for all time? Isn't this the basis for the Jewish State?
Isn't that maniacal drive - i.e., to maintain the survival of a Culture - what's really behind all the killing that has occured in the last hundred years in the Jew/Arab conflict?
We thus must ask, why should the Jewish Culture survive above all else? The world doesn't need the The Jewish Culture, and in reality even Jews don't need the Tribe. Who other than Jews maintain such a demand, that their Culture survive above all? In all other Cultures, members inter marry and have children and enhance the the melting pot of the human race.
The USA is made up of immigrants from many different nations and regions and religions and the like - broadly speaking, Cultures. Is there any other Cultural member so obsessed with maintaining their Culture, other than the vast majority of Jews? Do German Americans, Italian Americans, Amish Americans, Muslim Americans, Black Americans, or any other definable group of people that might have an inkling of political concern or intent, possess such an obstinate drive for survival of their Culture? Is not all this killing because of that drive? If so, can we not call it an unreasonable, or even insane, drive?
Amen. As a genetic scientist, one sees how this man's height greatly exceeds the trivialization that is done ignorantly based on genetics.
If you are a genetic scientist then you're an outright liar.
All genetic studies show Levantine ancestry for Ashkenazi Jews
Genetic scientist my ass you're so full of it lmfao
@@MG-dj7jv I have British ancestry, so does that mean I have some divine right to UK citizenship and British land???
Only a few were actually living in Palestine. That is why it was chosen. But UN freebies caused greedy people to flock there and declare themselves as Palestinian. So rude to the OG Palestinian, you have this whole grifter population from other nations.
What are you saying? Who understands you?What is "Levantine" for God's sake? You have zero idea in anything about genetics/culture, and no-respect?. 😾