Last season and this season there were no teams in the east playoffs under .50. Overall last year the east actually the better conference. If they manage the teams right they can easily surpass the west because they are starting to get older
As a conference, the Western playoff teams, won 44 more games than the East. Every team in the west, except the 8th seed (who tied), had a better record than their Eastern Counterpart... That doesn't equate to better in my book.
Sure, but championships matter. In the '10s the East and West split evenly the championships. Sure you can say it was Lebron going to the finals every single year, but it's not like Boston in '11 and the Pacers in '12-'13 were bad. You could turn around and point at the Lakers and Spurs who won all the West championships in the '00s. In fact, if Boston hadn't been robbed of that game 6 against Miami (flagrant foul against Rondo was a no-call) they probably would have beaten that dysfunctional Thunder team.
Deonta B relook 😂some of the top eastern players went to the west and west has Lakers TrailBlazers Kings Suns both looking like future contenders east is just bad cause most of there cities aren't pulling free agent cause no one wants to live in Charlotte or live in big city like New York anymore
ComaAlpha like Orlando, Miami lol ? The city of New York (Knicks, Nets), big franchise like Boston, Bulls, Philadelphia... or again excited cities like Atlanta... yeah warmer climate is a first reason...
I hate that it is like this. At least be like what the East was from 2008-2014. Im not asking for both conferences to be exact equals, but at least be somewhat competitive like before. Seeing Butler and PG get traded to the West made it ever worse. It seems like LeGM is the only GM in the East that can build championship teams lmao.
Celtics, Magic, Bulls, Cavaliers, Heat, Knicks and Pacers all were good teams. Like I said, I'm not asking for it to be an all out battle, but let the playoffs be exciting at least. Seeing the Cavs sweep away all the teams ain't fun. The Heat had some tough series before reaching the Finals, Cavs don't.
Jay 2014 was one of the most imbalanced seasons in recent memory. The two seeded heat (who won the conference) had the same record as the 5 seed Blazers, despite the Blazers having much harder competition. The Pacers and Heat were the only two good teams and the Pacers choked in the playoffs.
5:10 “at least lebron is still in the east so they’ll have at least one contender for the foreseeable future *cuts to Giannis” and they have some great young talent” Man this hasn’t aged well
zach Horvitz also the west and east in the 90s was pretty even.you can arguethat outside the bulls the west might have been a little better.. rockets with hakeem and their cre, Utah with Malone and skocton hornacek, Seattle with Payton Kemp schrempf, phx with kj Barkley marlje, San Antonio with David Robinson, etc...
@@1vaultdweller The EC was loaded during MJ's era. It was more top heavy in the 80's with the Celtics especially. Also the Sixers in the early part of the decade and Pistons later. But in the 90's you had a deeper pool of talent. It was incredible to watch.
@@lainiwakura4678 No it wasnt. From 90 and 98 between 40 All-NBA first selections only 5 of them played for East besides Bulls players. From 90 and 97 the league average points per game went down by -10. The talent pool was so bad NBA had to take steps and shorten the 3 point line.
@@1vaultdweller They shortened the 3 pt. line hoping it would create more offense. That's what the league has been trying to promote for a long time now, to its detriment imo. But you act as if the game was in a bad place. In fact it was booming like never before in the 90's and grown into a global sport. Magic & Larry saved the league from bankruptcy and then Mike blew the lid off. And oh btw they moved the line back the next season as it proved to be a failed experiment. The 2nd half of the decade the talent did dilute, and then got worse in the 2000's. Now that was a weak era. The OG's from the 80's and 90's left and imaginative basketball went with them. And devolved into iso "hero ball" by a new generation of athlete, like AI. The same type of ball they played in the 70's when the league was dying. The best era was 80-93, after the Dream Team and MJ's first 3peat. And the EC was clearly better, deeper, and were dominating the rings for a reason. 1st team selections is a very myopic criteria to judge by. It was obvious to anyone alive to see it for themselves what the better Conference was.
The East was the better, stronger conference as a whole overall compared to the West during the '80s & '90s. But, since MJ retired , the East has been the weaker overall conference compared to the West the past 15 -18 years.
Jordan made the East competitive because they had to draft and sign players to atleast compete w the Bulls dynasty but once he retired they lost that fire 🔥
Dzonikola it is right.. OKC also have that problem.. It just compensate with their GMs great pick ups.. Its hard to compete with the big Markets.. Boston and Miami are the only teams who can make an offer..
@@robertolebron2296 Chicago? Yes. Big market. Detroit? No, mid-small market. Big markets in the East are NY, Brooklyn, Philly, Miami, Chicago, Washington, Boston, Toronto. Pretty much the entire Atlantic Division and then a few from the other Eastern Divisions. In the West. The Big markets are LA Lakers/Clips, Houston, Dallas. That's it. The other ones are mid-small markets.
The west has also has some pretty great luck with the draft. Somehow they always sneak into the 1-spot when a franchise talent like Anthony Davis, KAT, Blake Griffin, Durant/Oden or Zion comes along. Then the East has it's power house teams lose it's star players to knee injuries like KG and Rose.
The East is gonna dominate the next 15 years. All the young talent is in the East now. Look at Philly, Knicks, Bucks, Bulls, Wizards, Celtics, and the Cavs just got younger and may add a lottery pick.
East is now pretty good now with guys like Giannis, Irving, Siakam, Butler, Walker, Embid and soon Durant running the show not to mention guys like Simmons, Brown, Tatum, Young, Lowry, Olodipo, Sabonis, Vucivèic, Dinwidde, Lavine, Vanvleet, Drummond, Capela, Graham, Beal, Wall, Rose, Griffin, Randle, Middleton & Adebayo
with Magic the thing was: Penny Hardaway suffering injuries, Nick Anderson have a horrible game that ruin his carrer, the Magic dont give Shaquille O'neal the contract he deserve back then (ok, they do gave the contract, but it was too late, the Lakers offering him what he wants and so.. he's gone to LA) and Horace Grant was already old
@Vitor Hara 1995 Orlando Magic: Shaquile O"Neal ( age 23 ), Penny Hardaway ( age 23 ). MJ returned after an almost two-year break, the Bulls had a terrible record: 34-31, he did not have chemistry with the new players on the team. 2014 Nba Finals. Kawhi Leonard ( age 22 ) - FMVP . Kawhi was not even a star in 2014, unlike Shaquille O"Neal, who was already a superstar in 1995. Derrick Rose ( age 22 ) - 1x MVP ( 2011 ) 2018 ECF: Rookie Jason Tatum ( age 19 ) vs Lebron James. Still needed 7 games to beat the Celtics.
The .500 teams in the west that didn't make the playoffs get lottery picks. The .500 teams in the East makes the playoffs, and don't get a lot of lottery picks.
@@charlescooks9360 Yup. Similar to what happened back in the '80s and '90s. When it was the other way around. East teams with winning seasons missing the playoffs. While the West had teams with losing seasons making the playoffs. Until the shift changed in the 2000s. Also, most of the West franchises front office is better run compared to the East since then. The Spurs drafted well during their down yrs/lottery tho (mid-late '80s and '97). They almost always do.
60's - EAST (West didn't win one time all through 1960 - 70) 70's - DRAW (from 1970 - 80 each conference got 5 chips) 80's - EAST (1980-1990 Celtics x3, Sixers, Pistons x2) 90's - EAST (Bulls 6 championships) 00's - WEST (Lakers x4, Spurs 3x ) 10's - WEST (Warriors x2, Spurs, Mavericks)
This is pretty simple when you think about it. In the 90s all the good players left the east so they didn't have to face MJ. Then they started coming back slowly, then Lebron showed up so everyone started leaving again. And if a guy like Ben Simmons, Giannis, Michael Porter, Markelle Fultz, etc becomes the next dominant player everyone avoids ends up in the east will get even worst.
Rasuke11 foh the east was ass. The bulls was the most stacked team in that era. If you say the Knicks and Pacers were good enough to beat them then you played yourself
Highschool LBJ better than Overrated MJ The fuck are you talking about 90's basketball? Clearly you are like 13 years old. And yes, the East was as good as the west in the 90s. Jordan was just that good.
Exactly! Sleep walk through the lame East and get totally slapped in the Finals. Making that adjustment from playing the top team in the East to playing the best in the West was just too much to ask.
I always feel western conference does better as they are more attractive in free agency. When I was an exchange student in the US I prefer the west coast compared to the east coast, of course my comparison was Auburn vs Santa Barbara but in general west coast seems more lively and dynamic with more diverse group of people whereas East coast just seems so industrious, if we use it as reference more eastern executive just use hype as the guide to scout whereas in the west, they find the one who is a right fit for the organization which eventually draw top free agents. And for the players, the environment in the west coast I describe would be more preferable as these guys are millionaires and would wanna spend their money
From 2008 to ~2015 the east and west were somewhat balanced, at various times the celtics, cavs, bulls, pacers, heat, and even magic were title contenders. The east then dropped off when the celtics and magic traded their stars, the pacers and bulls fell off, which just leaves lebron's team.
The east is getting better. Toronto Boston milwaukee and Philadelphia can match up with any teams in the west. They may not win the title but they can be competitive.
It goes in cycles. Back in the day the east was much better. Dr J - 3 titles. Larry Bird 3. Isaiah Thomas -2. Michael Jordan -6. The East was way better than the West. The Showtime Lakers had absolutely no competition in the West during this era. Similar to LeBron's Cavs.
How can you not bring up the Celtics when talking about the future of the east? I mean, they're nothing more than a team that just made the conference finals, added a top 3 draft pick AND signed an all star. No big big deal? Huh.
Fast forward to years later since 2019, the Eastern Conference has shown drastic improvement thanks largely to former Western Conference All-Stars Kevin Durant and James Harden among others.
I’ve also watched docs where NBA players, former and current, explained that the owners in the West treat players better and run their organizations better. And oh yeah, the weather plays a huge factor as well. Warm weather year round in the West? Or cold winters smaller cities in the East? Players always choose the West. Sucks because I live in the East so I understand the aggravations of watching the West win every year. And with the West still loaded? You probably should do another video soon doesn’t look like a change is coming anytime soon🤷🏾♂️😂😂
Alan Leon Yet they want him to go West because its easier in the East,but it really wasnt that easy.Lets see if they complain when the Warriors make the finals every year,they swept through the whole west
Alan Leon I would have given you hard time about Kyrie Irving and the celtics, but since this post was almost 6 months ago I will cut you some slack lol
To be fair, historically the East has always been the stronger conference. The 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s was all Eastern, they were the stronger side with the better teams and stronger fan base. Then from 1999 till now, the West just started to take over, the Lakers dynasty, the Spurs dynasty and the Warriors Dynasty was all in the West. This was all following the rise of the Internet, basketball in Europe, the digital age in general, so as more global eyes were on the product, the West capitalised on that perfectly, they had 2 dynasties in the early 00s vying for donation of the league, that made for exciting TV. Then you had the Warriors Dub City dynasty. You couple all that up with smart phones and social media, made it so the West just became more commercially viable.
Dude. I haven’t been much of an NBA guy since the Bulls and MJ. I’m a huge Carolina guy. I do watch a bit of the playoffs. But love your videos man. Keep up the great work sir.
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Let’s not forget.. in the west you have teams like Dallas, Houston, Los angles, Bay Area, Portland, Denver, Utah are the cities these teams play at. In the East Chicago, New York, Boston &Miami (Orlando I guesssss) are the only cities people ACTUALLY live. So the fan base is naturally going to be smaller in the East
Smh Honesty It makes sense though the 2000-2001 season / 2001-2002 season / 2002-2003 season. Nba counts the season from which it started so the lakers won in 2000, 2001 and 2002. Just like how the warriors won in 2014 season. Even though the playoffs were during 2015.
Martha B. well we know that. the warriors example would be 14-15 not 15-16. so the Lakers would be 00-01, 01-02 and 02-03, so it should be 2000-2003. first won in 2000 and last won in 2003 or the 2003 season
those two points are yes, not obvious but has good and solid foundations. maybe, the market in the west and reputation it built as tough and winning conference are other things. EXCELLENT JOB!
The east has sucked for approx. 10 years. Back in Jordan's day, the east was tough with the Bulls, Pistons, Knicks, Pacers and Cavaliers. But today, the east is awful and it got worse with George leaving.
Stunt King #NBA and then they compete with the warriors, spurs, and rockets and others?? umm no youd have a better chance beating lebron than doing that
+NIM KOVAK OK listen Kyrie can't win without his dad LeBron judging by his inability to win when LeBron wasn't on the court (4-20) it would honestly be surprising if they even make it past the first round. We all know the Warriors and Cavs are bound for another finals match up no one else has a chance.
+NIM KOVAK Im not sure you realize but LeBron averaged more PPG on a more efficient shooting percentage then Kyrie in the 4th quarter of the 2016 and 17 finals so him not showing up in 4th quarters outside of 2011 is a myth Westbrook isn't better then anyone he broke the record for the highest usage rate in history and stat padding it's insane.
But look at the standings lets just say the kings a almost 500 team in the west but arent making the playing but the pistons have the same record and are tied and could be tied with 3 teams in the heat and magic
Basically, it all boils down to the big man and style of play. Going back before the league was dominated by point guards, it was a big mans game. The west had all the big men while the east had all the guards(look at 2001 NBA Allstar game for reference). It's easier to build a contending team around a big than a guard. As far as style of play, the west was historically a "run and gun", finesse, offensive type of style, while the east was rugged, hard nose, defensive minded. Because of this, teams from both conferences reflected that. Eastern teams felt if they had a guard and defense, they had a shot. But once that guard gets hurt or leaves, the team suffers. A great example of this is the 2001 NBA Finals. The Lakers had not only Kobe but Shaq and a great team around him. The East had AI and that's it. It's been like that ever since. Nowadays, the west with an already better team are adding one or two superstars from the east, not only making them seem impossible to beat, but they're killing a conference in doing so. The remaining superstars left in the east feel either A: join a loaded team or B: team up with other superstars and create one.
jipeon All I want to say is that you are correct. In the 90's, the conferences were different in those terms..West: Offensive minded, run-n-gun, 100-120 points games, track meet style, hardly any defense. East: Defensive minded, slow tempo, Under 100-80 point games..sometimes 80-60, use all 24 sec to get a shot off plus make em play 24 sec of defense.
The East already have John Wall Dwight Howard Bradley Beal Isaiah Thomas Gordon Hayward Hassan Whiteside Carmelo Anthony kristaps porzingis Kevin Love Kyrie Irving Kyle Lowry DeMar DeRozan Giannis antetokounmpo markelle fultz Joel embiid D'Angelo Russell LeBron James The East still has a upgraded Washington Wizards Boston Celtics a slightly worse Cavaliers raptors they have teams that are contenders and they have the the Bucks on the rise so I say they are still pretty good
Pretty sure in about 4-5 years the East will be the best again. The Celtics are super young and are very good when they have all their pieces and the 76ers are very young as well with two of the best young players in the league, the Bucks with one of the top 10 players in the league at a very young age who will easily draw star power to the team and last but not least the Knicks with Kristaps Porzingis and Frank Ntilikina. The best young player in the West is Donovan Mitchell by far but his supporting cast is older so we'll see what happens with him. The best hope the West has is the Suns get lucky with draft picks and trades and build around Devin Booker or the Lakers become much better.
Let's be real...When was the last time the West was truly impressive? Outside of the Warriors, we've had an aging Spurs team, 2 teams known for choking (Clippers and Rockets) and some relatively weak teams like the Jazz and Blazers. I'm tired of this "East is weak" talk. How about the whole NBA has been weak outside of 2 teams? Hopefully the Thunder, Rockets and Celtics made the moves to make things better, but somehow I doubt it.
Deric Gregory Been saying the same thing. They look at records the teams have in the west and say the east should win near the same amount of games as those west teams. And they swear the west has like 4 contenders when in reality it's only 3 teams spurs, warriors,cavs
Not really chocking, the Clippers and OKC had the talent to win it all, but injuries played a huge part. In the last 5 years, Spurs, OKC, Clippers, etc.. They were all considered contenders. The Warriors took over the league and the Spurs somehow remained relevant. Compared to the east, even the pitiful hawks managed to have a decent record, even the celtics last season had the best record.. And both teams are pathetic, a healthy clippers could easily defeat them, imagine GSW and Spurs? Imagine the Hawks facing a healthy OKC? That's the key point here, even the strongest eastern team can't win agains the third best team in the west. Even LeBron with his cowardice, seeking shortcuts and etc.. Even his superficial teams were not capable to beat the west.
The whole chocking concept proves how strong the west is. If you put the clippers and rockets in the east they'll dominate it automatically. That's just how bad the east is. The Jazz and Blazers are relatively weak if compared to the Warriors, Spurs, Rockets but they're not weak teams. They have a solid systematic culture in place. The same can't be said of a Charlotte or a Philly, or a Knicks, or a Nets, and even Milawaukee
Fast forward to 2023 the wet western conference is inferior, it is ludicrous that the nuggets only needed to finish 53-29 to get home court advantage throughout the playoffs for the first time in franchise history. The Suns only needed an abysmal 45-37 record just to be a top 4 seed.
actually with this you can also say lebron is better than kobe because he won mvps and championships despite being in teams with average to crap management
@andyhoops this video was pointless I can't believe u made a video like that I thought there would be a reason like people want to live in California and not Boston PS u just ended my 5 month streak of not disliking a video
West has 15 chips since 1999 and only two went 7 games. Numerous sweeps and gentlemen sweeps as well. Head to head the West has been dominant and has won every year except one (21 of the last 22 years). First team all NBA selections also go to the West and so do MVPs. Didn’t the West have a 50 win team be an eighth seed with the Nuggets, crazy. The West has been the dominant conference, the East this coming year is probably going to be the best that I have seen in a long time so they might catch up in a couple of years. But since 1999, the West.
Avrami Barasch the east can't even contend with the cavs who got their ass kicked by the warriors. There's arguably three teams in the west better than every east team
um think again buddy there has been at least ONE eastern conference team in the finals for the last 30 years soooo
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Kawhi was drafted by the Pacers but was traded to San Antonio for George Hill. Another trade that turned out to be one-sided in favour of San Antonio
spurs,masters of snatch draft picks.
It’s actually not one sided because the pacers needed a PG and G hill helped them tremendously brother.
welp they on the same team now lol
@@kvngcjgaming5559 drafted guy that was a long term help vs traded for the guy for a short term help.. Big difference buddy, big difference
@@chickenponpon3651 now he's on the Clippers
It gets ridiculous when west teams above .500 don't make it to the playoffs and east teams under .500 do
Last season and this season there were no teams in the east playoffs under .50. Overall last year the east actually the better conference. If they manage the teams right they can easily surpass the west because they are starting to get older
As a conference, the Western playoff teams, won 44 more games than the East. Every team in the west, except the 8th seed (who tied), had a better record than their Eastern Counterpart... That doesn't equate to better in my book.
Sure, but championships matter. In the '10s the East and West split evenly the championships. Sure you can say it was Lebron going to the finals every single year, but it's not like Boston in '11 and the Pacers in '12-'13 were bad. You could turn around and point at the Lakers and Spurs who won all the West championships in the '00s.
In fact, if Boston hadn't been robbed of that game 6 against Miami (flagrant foul against Rondo was a no-call) they probably would have beaten that dysfunctional Thunder team.
Deonta B relook 😂some of the top eastern players went to the west and west has Lakers TrailBlazers Kings Suns both looking like future contenders east is just bad cause most of there cities aren't pulling free agent cause no one wants to live in Charlotte or live in big city like New York anymore
Bob Saget 2020 true, but instead of 16 teams i want it 14 teams giving the top 2 with a bye on the first round(owners disagree of course).
Short answer: if you have the option to live in warmer climate, you will.
ComaAlpha like Orlando, Miami lol ? The city of New York (Knicks, Nets), big franchise like Boston, Bulls, Philadelphia... or again excited cities like Atlanta... yeah warmer climate is a first reason...
@@Cosmic_Cretin as a Canadian I agree with the guy that said heat was better
@@Cosmic_Cretin How many Canadians play basketball? The conferences shape up different in Hockey.
Cosmic Cretin as a Canadian i hate the cold
Short answer 2: Cold is better than hot
I hate that it is like this. At least be like what the East was from 2008-2014. Im not asking for both conferences to be exact equals, but at least be somewhat competitive like before. Seeing Butler and PG get traded to the West made it ever worse. It seems like LeGM is the only GM in the East that can build championship teams lmao.
08-14 wasn't even competitive. Yes there were contenders but there wasn't any real danger to the west aside from big 4 boston and LeBron's teams.
Celtics, Magic, Bulls, Cavaliers, Heat, Knicks and Pacers all were good teams. Like I said, I'm not asking for it to be an all out battle, but let the playoffs be exciting at least. Seeing the Cavs sweep away all the teams ain't fun. The Heat had some tough series before reaching the Finals, Cavs don't.
I see what you're saying. It's just ridiculous that most of my life the West has been shitting all over the East.
Jay 2014 was one of the most imbalanced seasons in recent memory. The two seeded heat (who won the conference) had the same record as the 5 seed Blazers, despite the Blazers having much harder competition. The Pacers and Heat were the only two good teams and the Pacers choked in the playoffs.
Lrod Shrek pacers were good by East standards.
5:10 “at least lebron is still in the east so they’ll have at least one contender for the foreseeable future *cuts to Giannis” and they have some great young talent”
Man this hasn’t aged well
@Your friendly neighbor that eats KFC LeBron be like fuck this
😂this made me die
LeBron is in the west...
@@chickenponpon3651 you are very very intelligent
Lebron literally held down the east for the past decade
question: why the west is great?
answer: coz the best players are drafted or traded to the west.
you dont say
To add to shame, the NY and Chicago might be the 2 largest markets in the East and are the ones with the worst GMs
Chi-town's got it going on, and don't get me start on the Big Apple.. they never sleep.
60's-East
70's-Tie
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80's was not a tie lmao, the West was terrible
Right, the Lakers was like the Cavs today!
Jay facts, the west only had the lakers and maybe you could argue the rockets
zach Horvitz also the west and east in the 90s was pretty even.you can arguethat outside the bulls the west might have been a little better.. rockets with hakeem and their cre, Utah with Malone and skocton hornacek, Seattle with Payton Kemp schrempf, phx with kj Barkley marlje, San Antonio with David Robinson, etc...
Josh R but the East won 7 rings in the 90's to the West's 3
When Jordan retired that’s when it went down
Dexter Blackwood Nah MJ played in a weak east too. It's the 80s when east was better
Kenneth Donnelly no he didn’t lol
@@1vaultdweller The EC was loaded during MJ's era. It was more top heavy in the 80's with the Celtics especially. Also the Sixers in the early part of the decade and Pistons later. But in the 90's you had a deeper pool of talent. It was incredible to watch.
@@lainiwakura4678 No it wasnt. From 90 and 98 between 40 All-NBA first selections only 5 of them played for East besides Bulls players. From 90 and 97 the league average points per game went down by -10. The talent pool was so bad NBA had to take steps and shorten the 3 point line.
@@1vaultdweller They shortened the 3 pt. line hoping it would create more offense. That's what the league has been trying to promote for a long time now, to its detriment imo. But you act as if the game was in a bad place. In fact it was booming like never before in the 90's and grown into a global sport. Magic & Larry saved the league from bankruptcy and then Mike blew the lid off. And oh btw they moved the line back the next season as it proved to be a failed experiment.
The 2nd half of the decade the talent did dilute, and then got worse in the 2000's. Now that was a weak era. The OG's from the 80's and 90's left and imaginative basketball went with them. And devolved into iso "hero ball" by a new generation of athlete, like AI. The same type of ball they played in the 70's when the league was dying.
The best era was 80-93, after the Dream Team and MJ's first 3peat. And the EC was clearly better, deeper, and were dominating the rings for a reason. 1st team selections is a very myopic criteria to judge by. It was obvious to anyone alive to see it for themselves what the better Conference was.
It seems like the west always get the best front office personnel
yo they may have had pop (goat) but the east has nick nurse and masai ujiri
Who the hell is the second person. Nick nurse ain’t no pop/kerr
“Atleast Lebron is still in the East!”
*Lakers enter the chat*
Fast forward 2019 raptors win the championship
But the east is trash
AKG927 because all the warriors players got injured they still trash if even klay didn’t get injected they still would of won all they needed was klay
HYDRO Fann see how it feels??
The East was the better, stronger conference as a whole overall compared to the West during the '80s & '90s.
But, since MJ retired , the East has been the weaker overall conference compared to the West the past 15 -18 years.
Even with Jordan and a young Shaq the east would still lose in the All-Star game.
All Star gm? Who cares lol
Jordan made the East competitive because they had to draft and sign players to atleast compete w the Bulls dynasty but once he retired they lost that fire 🔥
@@MrEOM41 This is very true.
Easy answer: better franchises in the west
Adam Tizani nope
Dzonikola it is right..
OKC also have that problem.. It just compensate with their GMs great pick ups..
Its hard to compete with the big Markets..
Boston and Miami are the only teams who can make an offer..
tiismuna is Detroit and Chicago considered big markets?
@@robertolebron2296 Chicago? Yes. Big market. Detroit? No, mid-small market.
Big markets in the East are NY, Brooklyn, Philly, Miami, Chicago, Washington, Boston, Toronto. Pretty much the entire Atlantic Division and then a few from the other Eastern Divisions.
In the West. The Big markets are LA Lakers/Clips, Houston, Dallas. That's it. The other ones are mid-small markets.
joe smith ok. Thanks for the info. But what about San Antonio? It's a big city and won 5 Championships
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The west has also has some pretty great luck with the draft. Somehow they always sneak into the 1-spot when a franchise talent like Anthony Davis, KAT, Blake Griffin, Durant/Oden or Zion comes along. Then the East has it's power house teams lose it's star players to knee injuries like KG and Rose.
Welp East has better Playoff matchups
Sixers vs Raptors
Bucks vs Celtics
Is better than
Warriors vs Rockets
Nuggets vs Blazers
Imagine thinking that nuggets vs blazers is a shit matchup
Rafael Dizon Lakers vs clippers
Toni Magz I’ll get you banned from RUclips
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I think it’s safe to say at this point, the East is getting closer to the West.
West is still more talented but the gap is getting closer.
The East is gonna dominate the next 15 years. All the young talent is in the East now. Look at Philly, Knicks, Bucks, Bulls, Wizards, Celtics, and the Cavs just got younger and may add a lottery pick.
East is now pretty good now with guys like Giannis, Irving, Siakam, Butler, Walker, Embid and soon Durant running the show not to mention guys like Simmons, Brown, Tatum, Young, Lowry, Olodipo, Sabonis, Vucivèic, Dinwidde, Lavine, Vanvleet, Drummond, Capela, Graham, Beal, Wall, Rose, Griffin, Randle, Middleton & Adebayo
And the west has the warriors, Lakers, clippers, rockets.
I agree with you the east has the future of the NBA on their side players that will take over after Lebron retires
This didn’t age well Simmons is poop
The east has been a joke since the GOAT mj retired
I Feel Like Yeezus literally the only one you know from that era
with Magic the thing was: Penny Hardaway suffering injuries, Nick Anderson have a horrible game that ruin his carrer, the Magic dont give Shaquille O'neal the contract he deserve back then (ok, they do gave the contract, but it was too late, the Lakers offering him what he wants and so.. he's gone to LA) and Horace Grant was already old
@Vitor Hara
1995 Orlando Magic:
Shaquile O"Neal ( age 23 ), Penny Hardaway ( age 23 ).
MJ returned after an almost two-year break, the Bulls had a terrible record: 34-31, he did not have chemistry with the new players on the team.
2014 Nba Finals.
Kawhi Leonard ( age 22 ) - FMVP .
Kawhi was not even a star in 2014, unlike Shaquille O"Neal, who was already a superstar in 1995.
Derrick Rose ( age 22 ) - 1x MVP ( 2011 )
2018 ECF:
Rookie Jason Tatum ( age 19 ) vs Lebron James.
Still needed 7 games to beat the Celtics.
East is a lot better this year. Raptors, Bucks, Sixers, Celtics
Pacers, Nets
The .500 teams in the west that didn't make the playoffs get lottery picks. The .500 teams in the East makes the playoffs, and don't get a lot of lottery picks.
this is a good point
@@charlescooks9360 Yup. Similar to what happened back in the '80s and '90s. When it was the other way around. East teams with winning seasons missing the playoffs. While the West had teams with losing seasons making the playoffs. Until the shift changed in the 2000s. Also, most of the West franchises front office is better run compared to the East since then.
The Spurs drafted well during their down yrs/lottery tho (mid-late '80s and '97). They almost always do.
And now LeBron went to the west. . .
NOW LEbron in the west
The east was god in the 80's
the pacers got olaldipo to build around Myles turner
ouch
james harden the bearded that's horrible 😂
They should’ve been aggressive when they had Paul George but Larry Bird was content with the team being mediocre
Rj Gamboa not horrible at all
And now it's they got Victor Oladipo in an absolute steal and they're building around him primarily and NOT Myles Turner.
2019 and 2020 the bucks have the best record in the nba
@just tell me santino chill Celtics and Heat are very good
@@re1ive456 right on the money
And they didn't make it passed the 2nd round
The era of MJ on eastern was the beast day! After MJ retirement they all gone...
I’m glad the East improved a LOT this year. So much more fun to watch
The east still needs a lot of help.
Sounds like bad moves by GMs
60's - EAST (West didn't win one time all through 1960 - 70)
70's - DRAW (from 1970 - 80 each conference got 5 chips)
80's - EAST (1980-1990 Celtics x3, Sixers, Pistons x2)
90's - EAST (Bulls 6 championships)
00's - WEST (Lakers x4, Spurs 3x )
10's - WEST (Warriors x2, Spurs, Mavericks)
Pre 1976 or whatever was not the NBA, just a heads up. There were only 2 rounds in the playoffs
3 rounds
didn't Celtics lose once in the 60's?
Lakers won in 1969 bro
Kevin M and 2010
East about to dominate soon tho, embiid, Simmons, porzingas, giannis, Kyrie, Tatum, etc
Tony Phan I agree with you.
Tony Phan We're going to see it soon.
Kevin Knox, Mitchell Robinson, Porzingis, Ntilikina
We have a lot of young talent, so do the Celtics, 76ers, and Bucks lol
that's true the east need to organize their teams
Man this video has aged well but hasn’t aged well at the same time😂😂😂😂
This is pretty simple when you think about it. In the 90s all the good players left the east so they didn't have to face MJ. Then they started coming back slowly, then Lebron showed up so everyone started leaving again. And if a guy like Ben Simmons, Giannis, Michael Porter, Markelle Fultz, etc becomes the next dominant player everyone avoids ends up in the east will get even worst.
Lebron is 3-5 the west is killing him wouldn't it make sense you rather play against Lebron because the west beats him more there not running from him
Rasuke11 foh the east was ass. The bulls was the most stacked team in that era. If you say the Knicks and Pacers were good enough to beat them then you played yourself
Andrew Ortiz 3-4 2007 don't count. Nor 2015 so 3-3
who left east to avoid jordan exactly? name one good player that went from east west
Highschool LBJ better than Overrated MJ The fuck are you talking about 90's basketball? Clearly you are like 13 years old. And yes, the East was as good as the west in the 90s. Jordan was just that good.
This is the main reason why Lebron has so many Finals appearances and Finals losses.
Exactly! Sleep walk through the lame East and get totally slapped in the Finals. Making that adjustment from playing the top team in the East to playing the best in the West was just too much to ask.
@@gdiggedy9 Yeah
Funny how of the 6 current superstars in the league, 5 are in the west. Kawhi, curry, KD, Westbrook, and harden while only lebron is in the east
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Bb Boy, so eastern conference teams are overpaying for shit players? LOL. Players in Texas seem to make the most with taxes n such
You're forgetting Antetokounmpo and (if he can stay healthy) Embiid. Also poor Porzingis (hah, pun) who has to play as the lone wolf on the Knicks.
Funny how half of them were playing together for OKC Thunder once
Watching heaps of these and they're great. Smash the sub button
I always feel western conference does better as they are more attractive in free agency. When I was an exchange student in the US I prefer the west coast compared to the east coast, of course my comparison was Auburn vs Santa Barbara but in general west coast seems more lively and dynamic with more diverse group of people whereas East coast just seems so industrious, if we use it as reference more eastern executive just use hype as the guide to scout whereas in the west, they find the one who is a right fit for the organization which eventually draw top free agents. And for the players, the environment in the west coast I describe would be more preferable as these guys are millionaires and would wanna spend their money
This video hasn’t aged.
it did aged well
ok do you want to fight
From 2008 to ~2015 the east and west were somewhat balanced, at various times the celtics, cavs, bulls, pacers, heat, and even magic were title contenders. The east then dropped off when the celtics and magic traded their stars, the pacers and bulls fell off, which just leaves lebron's team.
The east is getting better. Toronto Boston milwaukee and Philadelphia can match up with any teams in the west. They may not win the title but they can be competitive.
Bro the east is always great a eastern team is usually always in the finals
90's was probably the best decade for the East ...almost everyone can compete even with or w/o Jordan
Looking back at this the east is really good a lot of great young players and the east is led by Giannis Antetokounmpo
It goes in cycles. Back in the day the east was much better. Dr J - 3 titles. Larry Bird 3. Isaiah Thomas -2. Michael Jordan -6. The East was way better than the West. The Showtime Lakers had absolutely no competition in the West during this era. Similar to LeBron's Cavs.
The east is great now (2018-2019 season) Milwaukee Bucks might be champs
*Raptors
esast is ass
*2021 champions
My dads friend is the magic GM. ☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️ he said they were badly managed 😭😭
Skip Bayless lmao
Skip Bayless
Savage
Fred vs Kevin no shit my guy
How can you not bring up the Celtics when talking about the future of the east? I mean, they're nothing more than a team that just made the conference finals, added a top 3 draft pick AND signed an all star. No big big deal? Huh.
Roberta Cucinotti lmao Celtics are trash
Fast forward to years later since 2019, the Eastern Conference has shown drastic improvement thanks largely to former Western Conference All-Stars Kevin Durant and James Harden among others.
I saw this video, so I pressed it immediately.
I’ve also watched docs where NBA players, former and current, explained that the owners in the West treat players better and run their organizations better. And oh yeah, the weather plays a huge factor as well. Warm weather year round in the West? Or cold winters smaller cities in the East? Players always choose the West. Sucks because I live in the East so I understand the aggravations of watching the West win every year. And with the West still loaded? You probably should do another video soon doesn’t look like a change is coming anytime soon🤷🏾♂️😂😂
What a load
Celtics are doing well...
3 years later, the 8th seeded Spurs, have a better record than the 4th seeded hornets...
@andy hoops : why the east suck
Raptors in 2019: hold our beer
kawhi was never in the west he was on pacer but got traded to spurs
Hi ' Duke is shit
That's true, but the Spurs told the Pacers to pick Kawhi because they already had the deal in place to send them Hill for him
Alfonzo Jackson the spurs are in the west dumbass.
Hi ' Just like your dignity
Alfonzo Jackson spurs are a western confernece team dipshit
celtics bruh really. they goin be great this season hayward from the west went to the east.
Chris Miller yeah that was the only good move tho. Celtics will be really fun to watch tho
Yikes
NBA Needs to make National and American league/Conference like NFL & MLB
why? its the same thing just different names
also with out LeBron the east wouldn't win nada
Alan Leon Yet they want him to go West because its easier in the East,but it really wasnt that easy.Lets see if they complain when the Warriors make the finals every year,they swept through the whole west
Alan Leon I would have given you hard time about Kyrie Irving and the celtics, but since this post was almost 6 months ago I will cut you some slack lol
The East got way better. I wouldn’t say they are perfectly even with the West.
To be fair, historically the East has always been the stronger conference. The 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s was all Eastern, they were the stronger side with the better teams and stronger fan base.
Then from 1999 till now, the West just started to take over, the Lakers dynasty, the Spurs dynasty and the Warriors Dynasty was all in the West.
This was all following the rise of the Internet, basketball in Europe, the digital age in general, so as more global eyes were on the product, the West capitalised on that perfectly, they had 2 dynasties in the early 00s vying for donation of the league, that made for exciting TV. Then you had the Warriors Dub City dynasty.
You couple all that up with smart phones and social media, made it so the West just became more commercially viable.
If the east is weak why don’t players go to the east
Because they suck
Well the Raptors didn't suck once they got Kwahi Leonard
And now hes gone
“At least Lebron is in the east”😂😂😂
We need to fire the fuck out of GarPax
They don't suck
But the west is better
How about we make ONE big conference, 58 game regular season, then every game is important. Nr. 1 seed duels with Nr. 16, Nr. 2 with Nr. 15.
How is Bradley Beal not even an all star he averages more than 20 ppg he is THE most underrated in the east in my opinion
Dude. I haven’t been much of an NBA guy since the Bulls and MJ. I’m a huge Carolina guy. I do watch a bit of the playoffs. But love your videos man. Keep up the great work sir.
No one cared
“LeBron is still in the East,” 😂😂😂
At least the Chicago Bulls have a VERY promising young core though:
Kris Dunn, Zach LaVine, Lauri Markkanen plus the 8th Pick in this year's NBA Draft could be nice to build around!
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still most of the top greatest players came from the east like kobe from PA and LeBron from Ohio.
Also jordan
chris king wtf so? What matters is the team not where they were born. lol typical pathetic comment.
Ali A I'm just saying that the east breeds the best competition you butt hurt ugly 10 inch thigh gapped bitch.
chris king oh someone is mad cute. Also DUH. The east has a larger population than the west but that should be common sense.
Ali A Then why did you try to argue in the first place?
Let’s not forget.. in the west you have teams like Dallas, Houston, Los angles, Bay Area, Portland, Denver, Utah are the cities these teams play at. In the East Chicago, New York, Boston &Miami (Orlando I guesssss) are the only cities people ACTUALLY live. So the fan base is naturally going to be smaller in the East
3 championships to 2000-2002 oh I see
Smh Honesty lol I was tripping too when he said that
Smh Honesty It makes sense though the 2000-2001 season / 2001-2002 season / 2002-2003 season. Nba counts the season from which it started so the lakers won in 2000, 2001 and 2002. Just like how the warriors won in 2014 season. Even though the playoffs were during 2015.
Martha B. well we know that. the warriors example would be 14-15 not 15-16. so the Lakers would be 00-01, 01-02 and 02-03, so it should be 2000-2003. first won in 2000 and last won in 2003 or the 2003 season
+Neothetruth but it was 1999-2000, 2000-2001, and 2001-2002 when the Lakers won.
Martha B. Bruh spurs won in 2014 brons last yr in Miami. Warriors 15', cavs 16', dubs this yr
those two points are yes, not obvious but has good and solid foundations.
maybe, the market in the west and reputation it built as tough and winning conference are other things.
EXCELLENT JOB!
You forgot Boston bud
The east has sucked for approx. 10 years. Back in Jordan's day, the east was tough with the Bulls, Pistons, Knicks, Pacers and Cavaliers. But today, the east is awful and it got worse with George leaving.
It sucks because lebron so good
Stunt King #NBA and then they compete with the warriors, spurs, and rockets and others?? umm no youd have a better chance beating lebron than doing that
+NIM KOVAK Kyrie obviously can't close without LeBron either
+NIM KOVAK OK listen Kyrie can't win without his dad LeBron judging by his inability to win when LeBron wasn't on the court (4-20) it would honestly be surprising if they even make it past the first round. We all know the Warriors and Cavs are bound for another finals match up no one else has a chance.
+NIM KOVAK Im not sure you realize but LeBron averaged more PPG on a more efficient shooting percentage then Kyrie in the 4th quarter of the 2016 and 17 finals so him not showing up in 4th quarters outside of 2011 is a myth Westbrook isn't better then anyone he broke the record for the highest usage rate in history and stat padding it's insane.
Nope. Easy Was historically weak for much of James's career there. When it got a bit better, he made a super team.
Andy: East Sucks
Bucks: We have the best record in the NBA...
But look at the standings lets just say the kings a almost 500 team in the west but arent making the playing but the pistons have the same record and are tied and could be tied with 3 teams in the heat and magic
your team was 1st because its the east
Basically, it all boils down to the big man and style of play. Going back before the league was dominated by point guards, it was a big mans game. The west had all the big men while the east had all the guards(look at 2001 NBA Allstar game for reference). It's easier to build a contending team around a big than a guard. As far as style of play, the west was historically a "run and gun", finesse, offensive type of style, while the east was rugged, hard nose, defensive minded. Because of this, teams from both conferences reflected that. Eastern teams felt if they had a guard and defense, they had a shot. But once that guard gets hurt or leaves, the team suffers. A great example of this is the 2001 NBA Finals. The Lakers had not only Kobe but Shaq and a great team around him. The East had AI and that's it.
It's been like that ever since. Nowadays, the west with an already better team are adding one or two superstars from the east, not only making them seem impossible to beat, but they're killing a conference in doing so. The remaining superstars left in the east feel either A: join a loaded team or B: team up with other superstars and create one.
jipeon great insight. This is a deeper understanding than the obvious which is stated in the video.
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jipeon All I want to say is that you are correct. In the 90's, the conferences were different in those terms..West: Offensive minded, run-n-gun, 100-120 points games, track meet style, hardly any defense. East: Defensive minded, slow tempo, Under 100-80 point games..sometimes 80-60, use all 24 sec to get a shot off plus make em play 24 sec of defense.
The East already have
John Wall
Dwight Howard
Bradley Beal
Isaiah Thomas
Gordon Hayward
Hassan Whiteside
Carmelo Anthony
kristaps porzingis
Kevin Love
Kyrie Irving
Kyle Lowry
DeMar DeRozan
Giannis antetokounmpo
markelle fultz
Joel embiid
D'Angelo Russell
LeBron James
The East still has a upgraded
Washington Wizards Boston Celtics a slightly worse Cavaliers raptors they have teams that are contenders and they have the the Bucks on the rise so I say they are still pretty good
BEAR 22 bradley Beal?Dwight Howard ? Kevin love?they wouldn't even be considered good in the west...
jermaine petit love and Beal would tf
BEAR 22 Markelle fultz???? maybe in the future but fuck no right now
Pretty sure in about 4-5 years the East will be the best again. The Celtics are super young and are very good when they have all their pieces and the 76ers are very young as well with two of the best young players in the league, the Bucks with one of the top 10 players in the league at a very young age who will easily draw star power to the team and last but not least the Knicks with Kristaps Porzingis and Frank Ntilikina. The best young player in the West is Donovan Mitchell by far but his supporting cast is older so we'll see what happens with him. The best hope the West has is the Suns get lucky with draft picks and trades and build around Devin Booker or the Lakers become much better.
It's so Lebrick can go to the finals every year. $$$
It's sucks since 1999
Let's be real...When was the last time the West was truly impressive? Outside of the Warriors, we've had an aging Spurs team, 2 teams known for choking (Clippers and Rockets) and some relatively weak teams like the Jazz and Blazers. I'm tired of this "East is weak" talk. How about the whole NBA has been weak outside of 2 teams? Hopefully the Thunder, Rockets and Celtics made the moves to make things better, but somehow I doubt it.
Deric Gregory Been saying the same thing. They look at records the teams have in the west and say the east should win near the same amount of games as those west teams. And they swear the west has like 4 contenders when in reality it's only 3 teams spurs, warriors,cavs
In 2016 the western conference playoffs was amazing and in 2015 too
Not really chocking, the Clippers and OKC had the talent to win it all, but injuries played a huge part. In the last 5 years, Spurs, OKC, Clippers, etc.. They were all considered contenders. The Warriors took over the league and the Spurs somehow remained relevant. Compared to the east, even the pitiful hawks managed to have a decent record, even the celtics last season had the best record.. And both teams are pathetic, a healthy clippers could easily defeat them, imagine GSW and Spurs? Imagine the Hawks facing a healthy OKC? That's the key point here, even the strongest eastern team can't win agains the third best team in the west. Even LeBron with his cowardice, seeking shortcuts and etc.. Even his superficial teams were not capable to beat the west.
At least you still have the "again Spurs team" and "choking Rockets". In the East, besides the Cavs, you have... no one.
The whole chocking concept proves how strong the west is. If you put the clippers and rockets in the east they'll dominate it automatically. That's just how bad the east is. The Jazz and Blazers are relatively weak if compared to the Warriors, Spurs, Rockets but they're not weak teams. They have a solid systematic culture in place. The same can't be said of a Charlotte or a Philly, or a Knicks, or a Nets, and even Milawaukee
Fast forward to 2023 the wet western conference is inferior, it is ludicrous that the nuggets only needed to finish 53-29 to get home court advantage throughout the playoffs for the first time in franchise history. The Suns only needed an abysmal 45-37 record just to be a top 4 seed.
No wonder LeBron plays there
naif abdul khader it’s because it’s his home city.
lucan lucan
That should go without saying but some people are just bandwagonners and don't know anything about players
Actually the east is doing well this year. Bucks, Celtics, Raptors, Pacers, 76ers, all doing well
This is why lebron is the most overrated player of all time. Also why Kobe is better than lebron
Michael Papamarkou stop it L
Sean Chowdhury solid list!
Mine is
1. Wilt
2. Jordan
3. Magic
4. Bird
5. Kareem
6. LeBron
7. Hakeem
8. Shaq
9. Oscar
10. Stockton
actually with this you can also say lebron is better than kobe because he won mvps and championships despite being in teams with average to crap management
No, hold this L
According to this logic, Duncan must be GOAT not Kobe lol
@andyhoops this video was pointless I can't believe u made a video like that I thought there would be a reason like people want to live in California and not Boston
PS u just ended my 5 month streak of not disliking a video
cause the west coast is the best coast
Fuck the west coast, to hot
West has 15 chips since 1999 and only two went 7 games. Numerous sweeps and gentlemen sweeps as well. Head to head the West has been dominant and has won every year except one (21 of the last 22 years). First team all NBA selections also go to the West and so do MVPs. Didn’t the West have a 50 win team be an eighth seed with the Nuggets, crazy. The West has been the dominant conference, the East this coming year is probably going to be the best that I have seen in a long time so they might catch up in a couple of years. But since 1999, the West.
Horrible video filled with common sense.
Honestly I always saw the WEST more physical than the east, the WEST to me had that tough attitude.
but the east got a legit contender in Boston now that they got Hayward so in a away the east is better this year
Avrami Barasch the east can't even contend with the cavs who got their ass kicked by the warriors. There's arguably three teams in the west better than every east team
The East was dryed out by Michael Jordan then didn't have enough time to rebuild then LeBron comes around to dominate
I’m a bulls fan and they have such a bad office. Hopefully they don’t trade lauri markanean