Yes exactly, it’s sad she probably got excited to get her Mom back and had a completely different image in her mind about how the relationship was gonna be. Never thinking the “Mom” was gonna snatch her kids up for money … terrible!
@@KimberlyCasey-cy5fu I watched an old case with Wapner from the 80s. It involved a guy who hires himself out as a clown. I found him on FB and he's still doing clown work!
Grandma is PURELY in it for the money. She "couldn't afford" to fly the kids back to her daughter, but she could afford to fly the baby daddy to NY? Come on now!!
Mom's clean but still has crackhead mentality. The nerve of her dragging her daughter to court after what she put her through. Disgusting! My heart goes out to the young mother. Run and dont look back, baby girl. You got this
Don’t forget, she wants to party and open up her own bar as well. I don’t know many previous addicts that want to open up a bar and party. Something just doesn’t sit right with any of these folks.
The plaintiff is something else. She has the audacity to call her daughter a worthless parent, but she didn't raise any of her children. They were in foster care because she was on drugs.
I agree. She owes the daughter a lot not vice versa. The Judge mentioned a "sliding scale" option to pay the lawyer. The biggest obstacle is explaining the 4 month absence.
She wrote in her reply the have good income but spend their money frivolously. She is jealous her daughter's is doing better than she did as a young mother.
It's crazy how she telling them to get the kids but she keeps fighting them in court to keep the kids . The mom definitely just see them kids as a payday
The fact that the plaintiff walked off after getting no money in her judgement.....yea, she's after the money. Horrible individual. She's literally holding those kids for ransom. Wow.
Well she literally said at the end this about money and not family court lol Imagine not raising any of your 5 kids and then complaining you're paying half support for 2 grand kids hahahahaha. This is America to a tee..... The downfall society spiraling faster than we all can even imagine
Remember, in her complaint, she was like after the father got them back she stopped receiving aid from the government so therefore she was only there for the Money is clear
Who would know better than an ex addict? Plus, you would have to be on drugs or something to just casually lose custody of your children. How do you not show up to court for such an important matter?
@@KennuhWayne it was the last court hearing , the parents already had custody so the grandmother told the Daughter that she wouldn’t show up so the daughter thought it would just be over if neither party show up but instead the grandmother was using the kids as a money ticket and went to court after she told the daughter she wasn’t .. if you ask me, the grandmother need to just let parents raise their kid. She’s complaining about money well give them back their kids and she don’t have to do any of that stuff for them. The parents can.
@teairathomas663 That's a little too careless for me. No way in hell I'm missing a court date related to my children's custody. Claiming the grandmother is a liar on one hand, yet claiming you lost custody of your kids because you "trusted" her is just maniacal. Still not adding up to me. Your kids were supposed to be away for 2 weeks...how is it months/years later you're fighting for custody. Something isn't right, and blaming the grandmother is nothing more than a convenient excuse.
what the plaintiff is doing to her daughter is awful. On the flip side i don’t get how the defendants let 4 months go by without seeing/going to get their 2 and 3 year old children. Smh
The fact the plaintiff is really saying this issues is about money she’s owed speaks volumes. She doesn’t care about those kids. I hope the kids are back with their mother and father ❤️
EDIT: Also, why, if you are a recovering addict and sober for 10 years, you are opening a liquor store and you clearly state that you want to PARTY and HANG OUT, and that you don’t want to raise their kids. Pleaseeee. My head hurts after hearing them yell over each other and my heart hurts for those poor children 💔💔
I came here to say this-my head hurts. I’m a pretty mellow person but I was literally yelling on this one. All the grandma cares about is $-not her own daughter and not her grandkids. Not to mention I can’t imagine letting ANYONE take my 2 & 3yo for any length of time. And cam we not have a discussion without screaming?
The plaintiff screamed and yelled almost the entire time, bobbed her head, crossed her arms, took her shoes off. Omg that woman is insufferable. And so loud! I'm amazed that the judge only told her to stop yelling one time....then let her keep yelling. And something about the defendant didn't ring true. Too much "poor me I'm just an ignorant victim". Judge Milian was right. It's very likely they're all just milking the system, and those poor little innocent children are their cash cows.
That plaintiff is a piece of work. You had a 22 year addiction and now you’re a phD student but you choose to open up a liquor store??? And then she’s calling her daughter a crackhead and a bum. Not to mention she slid her pumps off in court 😂
I was thinking the same, like, why open a damn liquor store instead of your own practice? 🤔 my mom got her PhD after being an addict and is a chemical dependency counselor and facility director. Why not go into a business that supports recovering addicts instead of one that hinders them? I'm sure there's plenty enough liquor stores. Grandmomma is ratchet
I’m so glad the mom & dad reconciled & got back together, then to have to fight this woman for their own children is crazy. The grandmother kept bringing up money & assistance, judge even called it out when it’s what she talked about in the paperwork even…shameful. I hope they got them back 🙏
I would have paid whatever it cost to get my kids back home. No one would have had my babies. Edited: The daughter should have never trusted the mom and allowed her to take her kids for a visit let alone give her legal custody.
Rt... she definitely could've caught a cheap bus up to NY & back to Flo! Ppl have been catching busses to & fm for decades, h/e; they were busy using children to scam & just let shiit happen until it blew up in their faces
@@londynche😂. Funny when the defendant never denied that her mom was raising her children for the majority of their lives, while and was busy doing Nada. The defendants doesn't want her kids, she's only acting like this cuz her husband wants them.
Agreed but some people can’t afford attorneys. My custody case ended after four years because I couldn’t afford it anymore. 100k+. That didn’t include plane tickets back and forth to court and hotels (I was in the military). Maxed out credit cards, personal loans, family helping. My son’s grandparents had more money. My son is 21 now. The day he turned 18 was the day he moved back home with me.
The grandmother is a serious manipulator and emotional abuser. She probably caused her daughter to separate from her husband because the husband sees through her lies and her daughter is easier to manipulate because she’s still a little girl who just wants her mommy to love and care for her. I hope the children end up with their parents in the end 💕❤️
This mother is a real piece of work!!! She abused this daughter throughout her life & she is STILL abusing her! I would cut off ALL contact after I got my kids from her!
It feels like her mom is manipulating her but she also was foolish. She missed custody court cause she trusted her after all she did? I think both of their motives were dishonest and they all not telling the truth.
She definitely has no reason to be in contact with her mother. Her mother is a liar talking about PhDs. When did she earn a PhD when her kids kids were in foster care and she was on drugs? They are all scamming the government!
The mother still has crackish ways as Judge Mathis would say. This case was not about the love of her grandchildren, it was about her love of money. Shame on the mother, you are a disgraceful human being.
Exactly she don’t love that woman as her child because she never raised her so to the mom she just another btch on the streets and it shows cuz she going off and angry calling them crackheads when they don’t look it at all
Handed them over to a women who has a HISTORY of not being responsible as far as kids and they just met recently. They are both as idiot as each other just in different ways.
Yeaaa everybody is talking about the plaintiff but the defendants seem unfit as well. If the plaintiff was taking care of the children for that long she deserves to get the assistance she needs to raise them if the parents aren’t providing.
But a mom who lets her toddlers fly across the country to stay with someone they barely know for MONTHS probably doesn’t really care that much. Those poor kids 😢
@@LivingforJesusaGodisGood74 I wouldn’t doubt it. She cried genuine tears when talking about her mom. Maybe she thought she would get a real mom out of this too and ended up being screwed by her again.
@@MusicTennisThe last time I checked, the defendant waw the one who left her children on the plaintiff and completely neglected them. Seems to me the defendant didn't want Them, she only wants them now because the husband wants them.
What in the world did I just watch? I’m sending so many prayers for these kids because if they acted like this in court, they absolutely act like this in front of the kids. And she is getting a PHd to open a liquor store????
I think God every day I had a loving caring mother who would walk the ends of the Earth for my brothers and I. This case makes me so sad....the kids are the victims. 😭😭
Right. I’m so gat damn confused. The defendants couldn’t have possibly been able to take care of those children on their own, because it doesn’t make sense that they would NOT want the grandmother to have the children but they still leave them in New York with her for FOUR months, while still sending her money to take care of the same children. 🫤 It’s not making sense. It sounds like they need each other to take care of the children, and now they’re in court on separate sides of the room acting like they don’t.
Mommy & Daddy I love you so much ❤❤ I can’t imagine being in families like this.. I’m so thankful I was born into the family I have because the backstabbing and dysfunctional relations I see in so many families just hurts my heart..
Why would the courts give custody of the children to someone who lost custody of her own kids???? The defendant is not a complete victim. She gave her kids to that woman. And she still wants to party after partying while her children languished in foster care???
@mel...s I will have to agree to disagree. I'm an addict and I have seen many people throughout my experience Who have completely changed the person They are and would absolutely be fine to raise children after getting their life together. What u did in the past doesn't have to define who u are forever. Cps needs to be more diligent in making sure these houses are safe bc I know lots of instances where a person raised all their kids n fucked up everyone of their kids
@alyssahamlett congrats on your sobriety. My mother lost her kids to addiction. Although she's been clean for many years, she lacks empathy and is hardened by her experience as an addict.
@mel...s I'm sorry to hear that, not every woman Makes a good mom. I agree you Def need empathy and compassion with children but also life In general. I see life in shades of Grey nothing is ever blk/white so I can see where ur coming from
I've met people like this all of my life where DRAMA and chaos are their NORMAL EVERYDAY. They literally do not like peace. They will find a way to cause problems and conflict. I run when I meet people like that.
They're talking about how she abandoned her children for 4 months but don't realize she had no idea how to raise children. Parents set an example for how their children should treat others and her parents were absent, of course she didn't know it was wrong to leave her kids with her mom, she probably needed to learn how to care for her children without nobody to teach her or set an example for her.
@@youneedtostop That’s making excuses. There are plenty of resources out there. There are many children that come through the foster system that are outstanding parents. She ditched her children. When you love your kids, truly love them, you could never lose them for 4 months. That’s a natural instinct. And it sound like it wasn’t just 4 months, it was way more than that. It was 4 months THIS time.
It’s astonishing how addicts who were absent parents somehow feel vindicated when the get clean and shout all their achievements, all while bypassing how their choices affected their children. The anger and lack of empathy for her own daughter who was gracious enough to allow her room in her life…it just floored me. I watched this whole case in complete silence. I pray the daughter wrap those babies in love. To the grandma and her co-addict, honestly, nothing.
Oh that is so foolish, geesh, I love heels, I never did drugs, don't drink alcohol, never had a cigarette in my life, but if I slipped off my shoes for a moment you'd hold it against me, ok. lol
She also said the kids lived with her for 3 years when she said in the beginning it was a few months 😂 Lady is spinning everything, talking fast and loud because she knows she’s ridiculous.
I think the daughter was too excited to have her mother back in her life and wanted an instant familial bond. She trusted her to take the kids for a visit then trusted every lie that came afterwards. Even after everything she had been through she said after she got custody again, temporarily, her mother said “we’ll be a family” and there wouldn’t be any more custody battles. Having the daughter isolate herself from her own husband is another strategic move for emotional manipulation. She got played and because she’s in such an emotional state her mother is running circles around her.
I think JM nailed it. The grandma would get more money from the government since she had no job. The daughter didn’t really disagree, just said it was what “she wanted”. She being the grandma. Nobody said you had to go along with it. They were trying to scam and then ended up scammed by a master.
Her mother wants the money, she got kids because she wanted to redeem herself but instead she’s hurting her child all over again. I’m surprised she didn’t try and take them for child support.
She wasn’t trying to redeem herself she was trying to get some money. If anyone understands the pain of a parent not having custody of their children it should be her. Yet, she’s taking her grandchildren from her daughter. SMH
The plaintiff plotted to get those kids from the beginning for money. She has nerve calling someone an addict amd bad parent when she herself is one...and wants to open a liquor store. They better hurry up and get those kids before she's back off the wagon. She's already off her rocker.
Grandma is an absolute disgrace! Even if my child was indeed a bum and crackhead, would I be on national TV calling them that. I’d be doing everything in my power to get them the help they need. This whole case is triggering and heart breaking.
Listen, it's people that's been raised by their parents that would not leave their small children for months on end. They may be young parents, but what they did is extremely irresponsible.
I feel bad for those kids smh. You can tell what kind of lady the mother is. Clearly the daughter has issues too. How can you let your "mom" who couldn't even raise you take your 2 and 3 year old after just getting reconnected with her. I hope everyone gets help.
I think the grandmother keep the kids because of benefits but the daughter also didn’t mind her mom keeping the kids because she was going through a lot and didn’t mind not having the stress of the kids. The daughter love the kids but can’t manage to take care of them and the grandma wants the kids for benefits. POOR KIDS 🤦🏾♀️😔
I was a Children's Social Worker for child protective services for over 23yrs. Unfortunately, it's common for former foster youth to lean on the vary parent who abused and or neglected them for support because they do not have other connections/relationships with others who can help. That mother waited until after the hearing to all of a sudden call her daughter a "Crack head." If she believed that to be true, she would have stated that to Judge Milian." Sure sign that her intentions for keeping those children is not for the sake of their safety. Definitely other reasons.
Selena, I am sooooo proud of you and your husband for standing up to that adult toddler. You cannot choose your mother, but you can choose to be the best mother that you can be, and you are doing just fine without help from her. Move on with your life and leave this AND your mother in the past where she belongs. 😊❤
I wish my daughter thought that way. But NOOO. Went and had 2 kids with the reason she doesn't have her oldest two. Then she cries about not having her older two.
THANK YOU, LORD, FOR GIVING ME SUCH WONDERFUL PARENTS! Seeing that woman suing her daughter after she didn't even raise her because she was too busy doing drugs....and then at the end she walks off talking like that about her own child...MAKES ME SICK! You disgust me... absolutely disgust me. I pray those kids end up with people who love them and aren't just using them for welfare handouts. I've never been so upset watching one of these cases as I am today. I would die for my boys. That woman is a snake in the grass!!! These people need to stop playing the system.
Grandma evil! Tricked them out of their kids. She the only one that’s been on crack what a shame! I hope the parents get it all resolved and the kids don’t suffer from any of it. ❤
The mother convinced the daughter to “watch” the kids so she could keep them and get government assistance. Why would the daughter think she was a good person when she lost custody of all of her OWN 5 kids
She didn't really know her mother. When you're in that type of situation you are vulnerable and live in hope. The daughter was hoping that her mom was a trustworthy person and was probably glad to be back in her life and the mom took advantage.
No way i would send my children anywhere for that long. No way would my children go to my parent that had not even raised me because I was in foster care. These defendants are ridiculous too.
I have been having difficulties in my marriage. A marriage of 10 years is about to end and I don’t want her to leave because I love her so much and she is the mother of my kids.
She said she bout to open up her own liquor store 😂 I'm stuck on the 4 month thing she said no money for flight money but her husband said he sent thousands. Smh 🤦♂️
Imagine charging for watching your OWN grandchildren??!! Unbelievable. I have never, not even once. That's my blood and my heart. That "grandmother" is a horrible person.
Honestly that is some grandparents my mom wants me to pay her for a McDonald's Happy meal for her grandchildren it's narcissistic. One time she bought my oldest a hamburger from McDonald's when he was 2 and she made me write her a check for $2.25 because she needed her spending money for a vacation that was coming up
Never in a million years would I think grandparents would expect their children to repay them for spending time and doing things for their grandkids!? Being repaid for being "amazing grandparents"!? 😂Yeah, right! Yes, ma'am, you're certainly amazing, amazingly horrible!
My mom has damn near raised my nephews and she couldn't even FATHOM the idea of suing my brother or his girlfriend for the money she's spent. They have a bedroom in her house and my older nephew will sometimes go there and stay for an entire week at a time. She's never filed for custody or assistance and, no, she's not rolling in money. She just loves being a grandmother and she loves my brother and the mother of his kids. If you love family, money doesn't matter, you just make it work. This plaintiff sees her daughter and grandchildren in terms of money. It's awful.
Sounds like grandma kept the kids and had the daughter sign papers so she could file them on her taxes. Edit: also, she took her shoes off in the courtroom like she was going to fight her own daughter? I'd never speak to her again.
Ain’t no way I’d ever trust a parent who had me in the system since 5! Sending your kids with her for a “vacation” and they don’t come back for months. Ain’t no way. I think it all boils down to getting $ for the children.
I think the daughter got caught up in the moment having her mom back in her life and trusted her too much and too quickly 💔
Yes exactly, it’s sad she probably got excited to get her Mom back and had a completely different image in her mind about how the relationship was gonna be. Never thinking the “Mom” was gonna snatch her kids up for money … terrible!
First most realistic comment
@@nikki__gee yes unfortunately the Mom took advantage of her vulnerability.
@@gnelson9913 thank you❤️
Facts
I jus looked her up because I’m nosey and it looks like she did finally get her kids back!! 🙌🏾
Thanks for the update. I hope they went back to Florida and never spoke to the mother again.
Smart thinking, l never thought to look up the people involved in the cases to see how some end.😉
I wonder if it was resolved in family court. It's hard to believe they worked out on their own since it's so toxic.
@@KimberlyCasey-cy5fu I watched an old case with Wapner from the 80s. It involved a guy who hires himself out as a clown. I found him on FB and he's still doing clown work!
I was about to be nosey too!! Thanks for the update😊
Grandma is PURELY in it for the money. She "couldn't afford" to fly the kids back to her daughter, but she could afford to fly the baby daddy to NY? Come on now!!
Right
#Facts
And she was once a drug user, so she know what she need since she never raised her own children.
@@trekgirl65 Right! You'd think she'd be more understanding and helpful with her daughters struggles because of her own past
There's one problem called "selective hearing"... this one is called "selective finances!"
Mom's clean but still has crackhead mentality. The nerve of her dragging her daughter to court after what she put her through. Disgusting! My heart goes out to the young mother. Run and dont look back, baby girl. You got this
Should have been a Judge Mathis case....he would have exposed her crackish ways...
@@meicolar1724he would’ve for sure told her about herself
"I'm a PhD student and 'bout to open up a liquor store!" 😆🤦🏾♀️Girl BYE
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Right?😂😂😂😂😂😂
That was WILD! 😮😂😫😫
A drug addict for 22 years and she's going to open up a liquor store
@@ChristineMaradaI caught that, too.
22 year addiction but calling ppl bums and crack heads. Lost all 5 of her kids but calling ppl bad parents. She got some nerve
She's an Online PHD student.
@@Arimas-bx2rtexactly how you say that about an online phd student
@@Arimas-bx2rtthat's opening a liquor store..smh
😂😂😂😂
Don’t forget, she wants to party and open up her own bar as well. I don’t know many previous addicts that want to open up a bar and party. Something just doesn’t sit right with any of these folks.
It breaks my heart to think that some people only see kids as a check or a free ride. They are little humans not meal tickets 😢
Her husband looks like a stud
@@alfredawalker34Bffr
Only someone without a souls and are evil and selfish would ever do that to a kid !!
Knew a woman trying to steal 2 birth certificates to get fs and welfare.
*They are precious little angels*
The plaintiff is something else. She has the audacity to call her daughter a worthless parent, but she didn't raise any of her children. They were in foster care because she was on drugs.
And the fact she took her own daughter on tv just to humiliate her further is so nasty.
I agree. She owes the daughter a lot not vice versa. The Judge mentioned a "sliding scale" option to pay the lawyer. The biggest obstacle is explaining the 4 month absence.
yes. literally! Great observation by the way.
I thought the same thing. The government raised 5 of her own kids. Now she has a phD. 😂
@@reginamanzanares6726 too many people think their level of education outweighs their character
She wrote in her reply the have good income but spend their money frivolously. She is jealous her daughter's is doing better than she did as a young mother.
It's crazy how she telling them to get the kids but she keeps fighting them in court to keep the kids . The mom definitely just see them kids as a payday
The fact that the plaintiff walked off after getting no money in her judgement.....yea, she's after the money. Horrible individual. She's literally holding those kids for ransom. Wow.
Exactly. Just give them back. And then complaining about not getting money to care for them…give ‘em back than
@@Commentraider3 it's a no brainer.. if you give them back you won't have to spend any money on them. So it's obvious she's after money
Well she literally said at the end this about money and not family court lol
Imagine not raising any of your 5 kids and then complaining you're paying half support for 2 grand kids hahahahaha.
This is America to a tee..... The downfall society spiraling faster than we all can even imagine
I like how Judge Millian kept her voice raised so that “grandma” could still hear her
Remember, in her complaint, she was like after the father got them back she stopped receiving aid from the government so therefore she was only there for the Money is clear
'I am a PhD student and openning up my own liquor store' - I dunno why but that made me laugh.
Plus being a recovering addict herself, why would you open a liquor store??? Seems very odd to me.
It did to me too 😂
Douglas told the Judge "she took her shoes off" .... lol
@KimberlyCasey-cy5fu
It's so incongruent, I had to chuckle myself, lol
Who is paying for her education I wonder? The government? It takes a while to earn a PhD. She must be lying.
The grandmother had the nerve to say the mother and her husband are drug addicts after she had a 22 year old drug addiction
Who would know better than an ex addict? Plus, you would have to be on drugs or something to just casually lose custody of your children. How do you not show up to court for such an important matter?
@@KennuhWayne it was the last court hearing , the parents already had custody so the grandmother told the Daughter that she wouldn’t show up so the daughter thought it would just be over if neither party show up but instead the grandmother was using the kids as a money ticket and went to court after she told the daughter she wasn’t .. if you ask me, the grandmother need to just let parents raise their kid. She’s complaining about money well give them back their kids and she don’t have to do any of that stuff for them. The parents can.
Yeah she got some nerve 😒
@teairathomas663 That's a little too careless for me. No way in hell I'm missing a court date related to my children's custody. Claiming the grandmother is a liar on one hand, yet claiming you lost custody of your kids because you "trusted" her is just maniacal. Still not adding up to me. Your kids were supposed to be away for 2 weeks...how is it months/years later you're fighting for custody. Something isn't right, and blaming the grandmother is nothing more than a convenient excuse.
And raised NONE of her own kids!
what the plaintiff is doing to her daughter is awful. On the flip side i don’t get how the defendants let 4 months go by without seeing/going to get their 2 and 3 year old children. Smh
Yesss that’s my issue too‼️
The fact the plaintiff is really saying this issues is about money she’s owed speaks volumes. She doesn’t care about those kids. I hope the kids are back with their mother and father ❤️
They are
@@mscaligurl76good to hear. thank you 😊
EDIT: Also, why, if you are a recovering addict and sober for 10 years, you are opening a liquor store and you clearly state that you want to PARTY and HANG OUT, and that you don’t want to raise their kids. Pleaseeee.
My head hurts after hearing them yell over each other and my heart hurts for those poor children 💔💔
All I say is......THIS IS A MESS!!!!
So chaotic. Got my BP up. Praying for the kids.
I came here to say this-my head hurts. I’m a pretty mellow person but I was literally yelling on this one. All the grandma cares about is $-not her own daughter and not her grandkids. Not to mention I can’t imagine letting ANYONE take my 2 & 3yo for any length of time. And cam we not have a discussion without screaming?
Yeah this is how I felt while watching this🤨😲🤯🥴 so sad 😞
The plaintiff screamed and yelled almost the entire time, bobbed her head, crossed her arms, took her shoes off. Omg that woman is insufferable. And so loud!
I'm amazed that the judge only told her to stop yelling one time....then let her keep yelling.
And something about the defendant didn't ring true. Too much "poor me I'm just an ignorant victim".
Judge Milian was right. It's very likely they're all just milking the system, and those poor little innocent children are their cash cows.
Grandma used the kids to get money. End of story.
She's giving Tokyo Toni vybz
And the mother is trifling as well. U don't leave your 2 yr old for months if u are a great parent. Stop falling for those karen tears
@@jmar5127 I have a hard time leaving my 2 year old with anyone for any amount if time. 4 months?? Absolutely not. Definitely shows her priorities
Terrible grandmother 🙄🙄🙄
An parent’s are pathetic asf!!! 2&3 are babies!!!! Who leaves their babies that far away for 4months with a manipulator?!
That plaintiff is a piece of work. You had a 22 year addiction and now you’re a phD student but you choose to open up a liquor store??? And then she’s calling her daughter a crackhead and a bum. Not to mention she slid her pumps off in court 😂
Girl yes. You can totally tell this daughter is being honest. THAT GRAND MOTHER IS TRIFLING
RIGHT.
I was thinking the same, like, why open a damn liquor store instead of your own practice? 🤔 my mom got her PhD after being an addict and is a chemical dependency counselor and facility director. Why not go into a business that supports recovering addicts instead of one that hinders them? I'm sure there's plenty enough liquor stores. Grandmomma is ratchet
Man yeah I was thinking the same thing 😂😂😂😂
@@sobreezymimi7622The daughter is no saint. She sent her kids of to her mom and didn’t try to try to get them back at first
I’m so glad the mom & dad reconciled & got back together, then to have to fight this woman for their own children is crazy. The grandmother kept bringing up money & assistance, judge even called it out when it’s what she talked about in the paperwork even…shameful. I hope they got them back 🙏
This woman is trifling and dangerous! Young lady, keep this woman from your kids!!
She isn’t any better to me🤷🏽♀️
I would have paid whatever it cost to get my kids back home. No one would have had my babies. Edited: The daughter should have never trusted the mom and allowed her to take her kids for a visit let alone give her legal custody.
And definitely not a mother that didn't raise her own 5 kids that were in foster care. No ma'am
Rt... she definitely could've caught a cheap bus up to NY & back to Flo! Ppl have been catching busses to & fm for decades, h/e; they were busy using children to scam & just let shiit happen until it blew up in their faces
The mom is a FOO and that's it and I believe the defendants!!!!!!
@@londynche😂. Funny when the defendant never denied that her mom was raising her children for the majority of their lives, while and was busy doing Nada. The defendants doesn't want her kids, she's only acting like this cuz her husband wants them.
Agreed but some people can’t afford attorneys. My custody case ended after four years because I couldn’t afford it anymore. 100k+. That didn’t include plane tickets back and forth to court and hotels (I was in the military). Maxed out credit cards, personal loans, family helping. My son’s grandparents had more money. My son is 21 now. The day he turned 18 was the day he moved back home with me.
The grandmother is a serious manipulator and emotional abuser. She probably caused her daughter to separate from her husband because the husband sees through her lies and her daughter is easier to manipulate because she’s still a little girl who just wants her mommy to love and care for her. I hope the children end up with their parents in the end 💕❤️
💯Nailed it
Ditto
This mother is a real piece of work!!! She abused this daughter throughout her life & she is STILL abusing her! I would cut off ALL contact after I got my kids from her!
It feels like her mom is manipulating her but she also was foolish. She missed custody court cause she trusted her after all she did? I think both of their motives were dishonest and they all not telling the truth.
The daughter needs a baby sitter
The daughter also needs to stop having kids.
All of yall can't see the obvious. Mom is not the problem the daughter is on some bull
She definitely has no reason to be in contact with her mother. Her mother is a liar talking about PhDs. When did she earn a PhD when her kids kids were in foster care and she was on drugs? They are all scamming the government!
But my thing is … if the grandmother is sick of them not giving money to take care of their kids, why not just give the kids back to her
She deflecting, and guilty, she did all of that never took care of her own kids, and was on drugs
The mother still has crackish ways as Judge Mathis would say. This case was not about the love of her grandchildren, it was about her love of money. Shame on the mother, you are a disgraceful human being.
I wish they would’ve went on there or Judge Judy
Yes, first a couple minutes in, I said judge Mathis would've ate the grandmother up!
@@merno2040yup! And he’d have way more control over the courtroom.
Exactly she don’t love that woman as her child because she never raised her so to the mom she just another btch on the streets and it shows cuz she going off and angry calling them crackheads when they don’t look it at all
This case should've been handled by Mathis
That's disgusting.
I couldn't be away from my kid for 24 hours, let alone 4 months - at TWO and THREE????
Exactly the defendant is not some complete victim. She handed her babies over to that lady. She initiated this mess.
Handed them over to a women who has a HISTORY of not being responsible as far as kids and they just met recently. They are both as idiot as each other just in different ways.
That part!
Not your position to judge.
Yeaaa everybody is talking about the plaintiff but the defendants seem unfit as well. If the plaintiff was taking care of the children for that long she deserves to get the assistance she needs to raise them if the parents aren’t providing.
That mother should be ashamed of herself didn't raise her own 5 kids smh
If your mother didn't raise you then why did you leave your kids with her? 😂
Why? Nobody keeping my kid for 4 months!!! No way!!
Very good question? Mom up to no good
Cuz her and her husband don't wanna take care of them.
The daughter is very careless
Sounds like mama needed a break and she took the opportunity. Damn shame
I really pray this lady got her kids back 🙏🏽🙏🏽
No way on God's green earth would that woman have my kids. No one who feels as negative as she does about her daughter should have her grandchildren.
But a mom who lets her toddlers fly across the country to stay with someone they barely know for MONTHS probably doesn’t really care that much. Those poor kids 😢
@@learningtogetherhomeschool7208Exactly.
@@learningtogetherhomeschool7208I feel she never wanted the kids. She's only doing all this now cuz her husband wants the kids.
@@LivingforJesusaGodisGood74 I wouldn’t doubt it. She cried genuine tears when talking about her mom. Maybe she thought she would get a real mom out of this too and ended up being screwed by her again.
@@learningtogetherhomeschool7208 Okay.
So grandma never raised her kids but now she wants to raise her daughters kids?
She wants to get paid
$$$$
Sadly this will get resolved by lawyers and a judge in family court. The daughter will have to explain the 4 month absence.
Right. Somebody else took care of her kids but now she wants to raise somebody else’s kids. It’s all about money for her
@@MusicTennisThe last time I checked, the defendant waw the one who left her children on the plaintiff and completely neglected them. Seems to me the defendant didn't want Them, she only wants them now because the husband wants them.
What in the world did I just watch? I’m sending so many prayers for these kids because if they acted like this in court, they absolutely act like this in front of the kids.
And she is getting a PHd to open a liquor store????
This was years ago, they grown up now.
They are all scammers. He spent thousands of dollars but couldn't afford plane tickets.
I think God every day I had a loving caring mother who would walk the ends of the Earth for my brothers and I. This case makes me so sad....the kids are the victims. 😭😭
I remember seeing this years ago. It’s disgusting, and I just hope those kids are doing well now, because this is a mess.
How many esle
How many years
The mom wants the kids then complaining lol also her going to an online school that’s in Missouri and the father in Missouri means nothing
2017 or 2018. Years ago.
@@chuck9380😂😂😂Makes no sense at all.
The mom has a lot to say for someone who did not raise her FIVE kids. Wtf
I love how they are sending these kids back and forth like they are a package of some sort. 🙄
Right. I’m so gat damn confused. The defendants couldn’t have possibly been able to take care of those children on their own, because it doesn’t make sense that they would NOT want the grandmother to have the children but they still leave them in New York with her for FOUR months, while still sending her money to take care of the same children. 🫤 It’s not making sense. It sounds like they need each other to take care of the children, and now they’re in court on separate sides of the room acting like they don’t.
My heart goes out to this young lady! Everyone deserves a good mother.
Mommy & Daddy I love you so much ❤❤ I can’t imagine being in families like this.. I’m so thankful I was born into the family I have because the backstabbing and dysfunctional relations I see in so many families just hurts my heart..
"I'm about to open up my own liquor store"
Give those people their kids back!!
Why would the courts give custody of the children to someone who lost custody of her own kids????
The defendant is not a complete victim. She gave her kids to that woman.
And she still wants to party after partying while her children languished in foster care???
People change (not the plaintiff but other people can change)
@alyssahamlett true, but a woman whose failed 5 of her own children should've never been granted custody of any child
@mel...s I will have to agree to disagree. I'm an addict and I have seen many people throughout my experience Who have completely changed the person They are and would absolutely be fine to raise children after getting their life together. What u did in the past doesn't have to define who u are forever. Cps needs to be more diligent in making sure these houses are safe bc I know lots of instances where a person raised all their kids n fucked up everyone of their kids
@alyssahamlett congrats on your sobriety. My mother lost her kids to addiction. Although she's been clean for many years, she lacks empathy and is hardened by her experience as an addict.
@mel...s I'm sorry to hear that, not every woman Makes a good mom. I agree you Def need empathy and compassion with children but also life In general. I see life in shades of Grey nothing is ever blk/white so I can see where ur coming from
I've met people like this all of my life where DRAMA and chaos are their NORMAL EVERYDAY. They literally do not like peace. They will find a way to cause problems and conflict. I run when I meet people like that.
If the claim is the parents are “unfit,” why expect them to support in any way?? Ummmmm, I don’t think that’s how that works.
My parents would have to fight me because there’s no way I would’ve let this flow.
Ok!!! Would’ve found the cheapest way back to get my kids !!
I hope the daughter finds healing . You can tell she loves her children
I guess.. but she let those kids go for at least 4 months. I can’t even fathom that
I can’t, she just handed her kids over and was in no rush to get them back
They're talking about how she abandoned her children for 4 months but don't realize she had no idea how to raise children. Parents set an example for how their children should treat others and her parents were absent, of course she didn't know it was wrong to leave her kids with her mom, she probably needed to learn how to care for her children without nobody to teach her or set an example for her.
@@youneedtostop That’s making excuses. There are plenty of resources out there. There are many children that come through the foster system that are outstanding parents. She ditched her children. When you love your kids, truly love them, you could never lose them for 4 months. That’s a natural instinct. And it sound like it wasn’t just 4 months, it was way more than that. It was 4 months THIS time.
@@oldageisdumb1000% agree
Judge Mathis should have had this case 😂😂
My thoughts exactly
He would've asked both of them were they on drugs 😂😂😂
Nah, mate. Give this one to Judge Judy! She'd have untangled this mess in 20 seconds or less.
4 months!!! She never raised you but it’s okay to have your kids?! I guess everyone has their own terms 🤦🏾♀️
Woooo! That was a lot. I wish we could get an update on this!!!
Grandma being disrespectful by taking her shoes off in court tells me all I need to know about her....
It’s astonishing how addicts who were absent parents somehow feel vindicated when the get clean and shout all their achievements, all while bypassing how their choices affected their children. The anger and lack of empathy for her own daughter who was gracious enough to allow her room in her life…it just floored me. I watched this whole case in complete silence. I pray the daughter wrap those babies in love. To the grandma and her co-addict, honestly, nothing.
Oh that is so foolish, geesh, I love heels, I never did drugs, don't drink alcohol, never had a cigarette in my life, but if I slipped off my shoes for a moment you'd hold it against me, ok. lol
she really shouldn't have in court though.
@@marilynwillett804in court on national TV!
100%!
The grandmother is conniving and vindictive 💯💯💯💯
Give those ppl their kids back
When you keep toxic family members in your life, just because they related to you, it only gets worse and compounds
How was he eating out the trash at 6 weeks old? That lady a liar
She also said the kids lived with her for 3 years when she said in the beginning it was a few months 😂 Lady is spinning everything, talking fast and loud because she knows she’s ridiculous.
So sad for the kids. Mom or Dad could have driven to NY to pick up the kids. (Gas was affordable back then.)
How the hell did a 2 week trip for the kids turn into a custody battle? They both hiding something it isn't adding up
I think the daughter was too excited to have her mother back in her life and wanted an instant familial bond. She trusted her to take the kids for a visit then trusted every lie that came afterwards.
Even after everything she had been through she said after she got custody again, temporarily, her mother said “we’ll be a family” and there wouldn’t be any more custody battles.
Having the daughter isolate herself from her own husband is another strategic move for emotional manipulation. She got played and because she’s in such an emotional state her mother is running circles around her.
I think JM nailed it. The grandma would get more money from the government since she had no job.
The daughter didn’t really disagree, just said it was what “she wanted”. She being the grandma. Nobody said you had to go along with it.
They were trying to scam and then ended up scammed by a master.
Exactly, why did you leave them there for four months if they were only supposed to be there for two weeks?
Yup the mother lied for an opportunity to get a check.
Speculation
This case really broke my heart. I have to admit I shed some tears watching.
Me too
Her mother wants the money, she got kids because she wanted to redeem herself but instead she’s hurting her child all over again. I’m surprised she didn’t try and take them for child support.
Not yet that was gonna be her second plans.
She wasn’t trying to redeem herself she was trying to get some money. If anyone understands the pain of a parent not having custody of their children it should be her. Yet, she’s taking her grandchildren from her daughter. SMH
She wanted a consistent check from foster care, unfortunately it took 3 years which I’m sure she wasn’t happy about. She’s a crook. Period.
I pray that the children are doing well as well as their parents. This case was a lot 🙏🏽.
The plaintiff plotted to get those kids from the beginning for money. She has nerve calling someone an addict amd bad parent when she herself is one...and wants to open a liquor store. They better hurry up and get those kids before she's back off the wagon. She's already off her rocker.
PHD student,about to open up a liquor store!?! WTF!?!?!?
The PhD must be in assss hattery
2 and 3 she let them go to another state with their grandma for that long???? That's insane
Its not just men who do not want the kids they pop out. And there is no shame in that but DONT HAVE KIDS ARSEHOLE!
16:17 “I’m a PHD STUDENT!!! IM opening a LIQUOR store” 😂 wtf
Yeah I'm like wait what?! OK girl. Lol
16:17 "I'm a PhD student, I'm about to open up my own liquor store."
I don't think those two things are supposed to go in the same sentence.
It’s really hard to figure out what is really going on. If she was in foster care it makes no sense to even allow her mother to watch them.
Exactly. I wouldn’t trust her anywhere around my children. I don’t care how long she’s been “clean”. No thanks.
Grandma is an absolute disgrace! Even if my child was indeed a bum and crackhead, would I be on national TV calling them that. I’d be doing everything in my power to get them the help they need. This whole case is triggering and heart breaking.
No words but Amen to ur comment 🙏🏼
Mind u she never had her kids and was a drug addict herself
This is so heartbreaking
The grandmother is one piece of work. Prayerfully these kids are covered Jan love and the parents fight for them.
Listen, it's people that's been raised by their parents that would not leave their small children for months on end. They may be young parents, but what they did is extremely irresponsible.
Why is the judge allowing them to yell and interrupt eachother??
And taking off her shoes? Weird and GROSS. WTAF🤢
I feel bad for those kids smh. You can tell what kind of lady the mother is. Clearly the daughter has issues too. How can you let your "mom" who couldn't even raise you take your 2 and 3 year old after just getting reconnected with her. I hope everyone gets help.
I think the grandmother keep the kids because of benefits but the daughter also didn’t mind her mom keeping the kids because she was going through a lot and didn’t mind not having the stress of the kids. The daughter love the kids but can’t manage to take care of them and the grandma wants the kids for benefits. POOR KIDS 🤦🏾♀️😔
But the daughter has a husband to rely on at least to pay the bills so she can focus on the kids
@@JustBree716agree. the daughter got back on her feet. And she needs counseling and should not have anymore children.
I was a Children's Social Worker for child protective services for over 23yrs. Unfortunately, it's common for former foster youth to lean on the vary parent who abused and or neglected them for support because they do not have other connections/relationships with others who can help. That mother waited until after the hearing to all of a sudden call her daughter a "Crack head." If she believed that to be true, she would have stated that to Judge Milian." Sure sign that her intentions for keeping those children is not for the sake of their safety. Definitely other reasons.
Sad to see. My cousin aged out of foster care and was giving away all her benefits to the mother that abandoned her on the streets as a baby
Yup, for foster care money, and in my state you can get back pay so she’s not fooling anyone. 😕
Selena, I am sooooo proud of you and your husband for standing up to that adult toddler. You cannot choose your mother, but you can choose to be the best mother that you can be, and you are doing just fine without help from her. Move on with your life and leave this AND your mother in the past where she belongs. 😊❤
Judge is about that life!!! Grandma didn't take care of her own children.
I’m not judging but there’s no way I’d have a second kid if I don’t even have custody of my first.
the mother had five kids and didn't raise them so the apples don't fall far from the tree
I wish my daughter thought that way. But NOOO. Went and had 2 kids with the reason she doesn't have her oldest two. Then she cries about not having her older two.
@@Nevaeh1yeah that whole family needs some healing and to break cycles
I thank God every day my family isn't this dramatic
Same
THANK YOU, LORD, FOR GIVING ME SUCH WONDERFUL PARENTS! Seeing that woman suing her daughter after she didn't even raise her because she was too busy doing drugs....and then at the end she walks off talking like that about her own child...MAKES ME SICK! You disgust me... absolutely disgust me. I pray those kids end up with people who love them and aren't just using them for welfare handouts. I've never been so upset watching one of these cases as I am today. I would die for my boys. That woman is a snake in the grass!!! These people need to stop playing the system.
But they won't. They know it well.
I feel the same way. I’ve never watched one of these before that’s made me so angry that grandmother oh my freaking God.!
Grandma evil! Tricked them out of their kids. She the only one that’s been on crack what a shame! I hope the parents get it all resolved and the kids don’t suffer from any of it. ❤
That Mother has some got damn Audacity to have had her kids in foster care and now fighting her kid for her grandkids. Pure Audacity
If money is a issue 🗣THEN GIVE THE CHILDREN BACK TO THEIR PARENTS.
I feel so sorry for those kids
The Plaintiff is a recovering addict about to open a liquor store, thats wild
What kind of mother would even stoop that low? Not bums & crackheads.
Did she just say, "I'm a PHD. student about to open my "OWN" liquor store"....wonder what her degree is in?? Liquorology😅😅
The mother said 🗣️ I’m getting my PhD & opening up my own liquor store! I’m laughed sooo hard
Yes! 😂 If "wait, what?" was a person, she is IT!!
Yeah I was taken aback by that too.
When your in school she may not be working in that field yet, and may need money to further her education why is thar hard to understand.
The mother convinced the daughter to “watch” the kids so she could keep them and get government assistance. Why would the daughter think she was a good person when she lost custody of all of her OWN 5 kids
She didn't really know her mother. When you're in that type of situation you are vulnerable and live in hope. The daughter was hoping that her mom was a trustworthy person and was probably glad to be back in her life and the mom took advantage.
No way i would send my children anywhere for that long. No way would my children go to my parent that had not even raised me because I was in foster care. These defendants are ridiculous too.
I have been having difficulties in my marriage. A marriage of 10 years is about to end and I don’t want her to leave because I love her so much and she is the mother of my kids.
Wow, that’s nice. I can do anything right now to keep my family and I’m really serious about it.
Thank you very much for this, you are a lifesaver. I will get in touch with her very soon.
She said she bout to open up her own liquor store 😂 I'm stuck on the 4 month thing she said no money for flight money but her husband said he sent thousands. Smh 🤦♂️
Psa to everyone watching, dont let you parents medle in your parenting with your children. Set boundaries for you and your children
Imagine charging for watching your OWN grandchildren??!! Unbelievable. I have never, not even once. That's my blood and my heart. That "grandmother" is a horrible person.
Honestly that is some grandparents my mom wants me to pay her for a McDonald's Happy meal for her grandchildren it's narcissistic. One time she bought my oldest a hamburger from McDonald's when he was 2 and she made me write her a check for $2.25 because she needed her spending money for a vacation that was coming up
Only thing my mom ever asked for was money for diapers and food for a week like 30$ thank god I have a mother who loves her grandkids
Hot 😮ghetto mess I feel for this young lady - her supposedly wanna be mom is manipulative, greedy and selfish
Never in a million years would I think grandparents would expect their children to repay them for spending time and doing things for their grandkids!? Being repaid for being "amazing grandparents"!? 😂Yeah, right! Yes, ma'am, you're certainly amazing, amazingly horrible!
The plaintiff is EVIL and a SCAMMER! she states she is clean, BUT wants to open a liquor store?
My mom has damn near raised my nephews and she couldn't even FATHOM the idea of suing my brother or his girlfriend for the money she's spent. They have a bedroom in her house and my older nephew will sometimes go there and stay for an entire week at a time. She's never filed for custody or assistance and, no, she's not rolling in money. She just loves being a grandmother and she loves my brother and the mother of his kids. If you love family, money doesn't matter, you just make it work. This plaintiff sees her daughter and grandchildren in terms of money. It's awful.
Wow... I could never let my kids be gone so long. I would have to take out a payday loan if nothing else so I could come get them.
Sounds like grandma kept the kids and had the daughter sign papers so she could file them on her taxes.
Edit: also, she took her shoes off in the courtroom like she was going to fight her own daughter? I'd never speak to her again.
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As a mom of 2 little boys my heartbreaks for these kids. They are the true victims here!
Seeing the daughter cry actually made me cry. That was real pain. Some people are so evil. She doesn’t even need her mother in her life. That’s crazy.
Those tears illustrate a deeper wound....her heart is broken over the relationship with her mom....i feel her pain. 😢
Ain’t no way I’d ever trust a parent who had me in the system since 5! Sending your kids with her for a “vacation” and they don’t come back for months. Ain’t no way. I think it all boils down to getting $ for the children.