After watching your earlier videos months ago I realized the Voices modulation was the key to so many organic sounds on the PB. It's great that Arturia tapped your expertise and we can get that sound much more easily now. Appreciate the additional info on the settings - these are the kind of details I wish Arturia would put into the manual.
20:55 The *unison* mode in the poly voice allocation menu isn’t just an ordinary unison but a dynamic one: 1 note played: 6 voices, 2 notes: 3 voices each, 3 notes: 2 voices each, 4 or more notes: 1 voice each. Very useful for left-hand octave drones (2x3) with right-hand chords coming later.
First reaction after testing those macros: “Wow, sounds much better than the Vintage Knob on my OB-6! Wonder what CS would say about it“. Now I know. Very smart move by Arturia to hire you.
Glad you're enjoying it! To be clear, Arturia didn't "hire" me or otherwise compensate me... they just asked me to join their Beta team, and I was happy to do so. None of the opinions or info in this video were paid for. Also, I will say I do still like the Vintage Knob on Seq instruments as well. It does use the same general methodology of curated, stable offsets, targeting the same general set of parameters... it's just the curation of values is a bit different. But, yeah, overall, I'm very happy that the hardware synth (and vst) industry is moving in this direction with vintage voice modeling options!
@@CreativeSpiral Whether they paid you (IMO they should!) or not: good that you were involved somehow. I know how the Seq. Vintage Knob works, but wasn‘t it you who said he would set the curated values differently in a previous video?
@@RayyMusik yeah, in my P6 vintage knob analysis video, I do mention that I would curate the value ranges a bit differently (more like how Arturia now has them)...But I still think the Sequential Vintage Knob is pretty good, even as-is... It uses the same methodology... just could be better with some value adjustments. Ultimately, I'm still gonna end up doing custom vintage modeling via mod matrix or other methods for a lot of my patch designs... just because you can dial in very specific values, to exactly which parameters you want. But the macro control approach is excellent for convenience and swiftness. I will use it as well, and I'm sure tons of others will use it as their primary vintage variance control.
Very cool research. Thanks 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 A tip for the voice: dont do that with the gate on the voice jumping in and out so fast. Better use a sidechain in when playing keys.
@@CreativeSpiral yeah, I love it! I was unaware of all of the changes that come with the different options for tuning like delay in envelopes and all so i really learned a lot from you. Very interesting!
Had no idea how much voice allocation affects the sound and feel of the synth. I had mine set to cycle, but now prefer reassign. It just feels more dynamic and organic to me. Thanks for the tip!
Huge fan your sound patches. I bought them the same day I unboxed my PolyBrute and have been loving them and talking them up to prospective Polybrute buyers ever since. The science of it all is quite the deep-dive but just hearing it and performing with it puts the hairs up on the back of my neck.
Jason, thank you very much for another great tutorial. You've done an amazing job (research) in this arena, not surprised that Arturia "recruited" you into their Beta program & team. Great job! What plugins (the 3 to the right of the Tuner plugin) are you using within Ableton with all the graphical representations? At my age/vision, a little hard to pick up from the video. Thanks!
Bought your soundsets the day I got my PB, and I suggest anyone reading this should as they are by far the best. So glad to hear you worked on this also, thanks.
Both the custom voice modeling and analog accuracy macros target the same general parameters. On my Fundamentals Soundset, I have all patches dialed in with the exact offsets I wanted for each section (oscillators, envelopes, filters, lfos, etc)... so no need to dial in additional analog accuracy on top of that. You could combine custom voice modeling (VCM) offsets with analog accuracy, though it would be a bit redundant. In the end, the VCM methods just provide you with more precise control over voice offsets, but it takes a bit more time to set up... the analog accuracy controls target *most of* the same basic parameters, with global macro style controls, which offset a bunch of elements together... so its easier to do, but you get less precise control over the voice offsets, if you're going for a specific classic sound/character.
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Really satisfying to see the results of your research and hard work being taken up and integrated into modern synthesizer designs. Thank you!
I'm glad they brought you on board to curate and lend your expertise to these modes.
After watching your earlier videos months ago I realized the Voices modulation was the key to so many organic sounds on the PB. It's great that Arturia tapped your expertise and we can get that sound much more easily now. Appreciate the additional info on the settings - these are the kind of details I wish Arturia would put into the manual.
Glad you found it useful! Yeah, certainly much easier to quickly dial in the vintage now.
20:55 The *unison* mode in the poly voice allocation menu isn’t just an ordinary unison but a dynamic one:
1 note played: 6 voices,
2 notes: 3 voices each,
3 notes: 2 voices each,
4 or more notes: 1 voice each.
Very useful for left-hand octave drones (2x3) with right-hand chords coming later.
First reaction after testing those macros: “Wow, sounds much better than the Vintage Knob on my OB-6! Wonder what CS would say about it“.
Now I know. Very smart move by Arturia to hire you.
Glad you're enjoying it! To be clear, Arturia didn't "hire" me or otherwise compensate me... they just asked me to join their Beta team, and I was happy to do so. None of the opinions or info in this video were paid for. Also, I will say I do still like the Vintage Knob on Seq instruments as well. It does use the same general methodology of curated, stable offsets, targeting the same general set of parameters... it's just the curation of values is a bit different. But, yeah, overall, I'm very happy that the hardware synth (and vst) industry is moving in this direction with vintage voice modeling options!
@@CreativeSpiral Whether they paid you (IMO they should!) or not: good that you were involved somehow.
I know how the Seq. Vintage Knob works, but wasn‘t it you who said he would set the curated values differently in a previous video?
@@RayyMusik yeah, in my P6 vintage knob analysis video, I do mention that I would curate the value ranges a bit differently (more like how Arturia now has them)...But I still think the Sequential Vintage Knob is pretty good, even as-is... It uses the same methodology... just could be better with some value adjustments.
Ultimately, I'm still gonna end up doing custom vintage modeling via mod matrix or other methods for a lot of my patch designs... just because you can dial in very specific values, to exactly which parameters you want. But the macro control approach is excellent for convenience and swiftness. I will use it as well, and I'm sure tons of others will use it as their primary vintage variance control.
Very cool research. Thanks 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
A tip for the voice: dont do that with the gate on the voice jumping in and out so fast. Better use a sidechain in when playing keys.
Thanks for this type of content! I always love learning more about the polybrute and how to modulate or how things are modulated
Thanks Joseph! Glad you enjoyed it, Polybrute is a very flexible synth!
@@CreativeSpiral yeah, I love it! I was unaware of all of the changes that come with the different options for tuning like delay in envelopes and all so i really learned a lot from you. Very interesting!
Had no idea how much voice allocation affects the sound and feel of the synth. I had mine set to cycle, but now prefer reassign. It just feels more dynamic and organic to me. Thanks for the tip!
Glad you found it useful!
Huge fan your sound patches. I bought them the same day I unboxed my PolyBrute and have been loving them and talking them up to prospective Polybrute buyers ever since. The science of it all is quite the deep-dive but just hearing it and performing with it puts the hairs up on the back of my neck.
Jason, thank you very much for another great tutorial. You've done an amazing job (research) in this arena, not surprised that Arturia "recruited" you into their Beta program & team. Great job! What plugins (the 3 to the right of the Tuner plugin) are you using within Ableton with all the graphical representations? At my age/vision, a little hard to pick up from the video. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it! The plug-ins are: jo.Oscilloscope (free M4L device), and then Spectrum and a Compressor (included in Ableton Live)
I’m excited about 2.0 I have struggled in the past trying to get vintage tones out of the brute but these new algorithms will help for sure
Bought your soundsets the day I got my PB, and I suggest anyone reading this should as they are by far the best. So glad to hear you worked on this also, thanks.
Cheers mate for all the useful infos ! :)
dang that intro !!
Hi. If one were using your fundamentals patches, or doing their own VCM, would it be better to turn off and not use any analog accuracy modes?
Both the custom voice modeling and analog accuracy macros target the same general parameters. On my Fundamentals Soundset, I have all patches dialed in with the exact offsets I wanted for each section (oscillators, envelopes, filters, lfos, etc)... so no need to dial in additional analog accuracy on top of that.
You could combine custom voice modeling (VCM) offsets with analog accuracy, though it would be a bit redundant. In the end, the VCM methods just provide you with more precise control over voice offsets, but it takes a bit more time to set up... the analog accuracy controls target *most of* the same basic parameters, with global macro style controls, which offset a bunch of elements together... so its easier to do, but you get less precise control over the voice offsets, if you're going for a specific classic sound/character.
@@CreativeSpiral that makes sense. Thx for your explanation :)
Do you sale this patches
Yes, I do have a soundset for Polybrute, available here: sounddesign.sellfy.store/p/polybrute-fundamentals-sound-set/