Say the trailer is parked on a higher patch of land than we’re the the gate would lay down, if it goes to far would those bent springs not slip and get caught on the bottom of the trailer?
Micheal Bradford i think you have the springs around the wrong way. I would say the long arm of the spring is pre designed to take more load of the tailgate, as it comes down it slides up further thus taking less weight as it binds up. Which ironically reduces the force exerted on the spring as it binds up. Thoughts or am i wrong?
Thank you for the idea. We have enclosed trailers with ramp with the poorly designed torsion spring/cable system. Every 6 mo. or so I am repairing the system where someone runs into it with a piece of equipment. I am looking to either sell all the existing trailers and convert to the torsion spring trailers with the torsion springs at the hinge of the ramp door. Any ideas for converting? Any and all ideas welcome. Thx.
One design I really like but could not get to involves putting a leaf spring under the trailer that works with a roller on the outer edge of the gate. It's a tough looking setup, but has to be designed from the ground up. I never liked the cylinder/chain or cable either. There are heavier coil springs by the way that could do somewhat the same function as the leaf spring. I don't have another trailer to experiment with or I probably would be attempting something new. Good to hear from you and please be careful with springs.
The only thing that I don't like is the spring end sticking out even though it's rounded off. Kind of like the the hitch sticking out of the receiver on your pickup. Good video though.
I believe those were at horsetraileraccessory store all one word on the Internet. I can't put a url here since it's not allowed. There should be other sources. Oh yeah, the virus probably has curtailed production of things. Forgot about that. There are fewer supplies of things for now. I have nothing to sell or for sale. Look at trailer suppliers. Someone hopefully will get back to you.
At horsetraileraccessorystore Not sure of rating, but more than you could burn through, however. Be careful with any bending or alterations. Avoid heating.
The length is about six inches and will fit a 3/4" bolt. I'm unsure of the exact loading for distortion, but it must be fairly high. I'd estimate at least 300 lbs. These don't fail. Severe cooling could be not so good, however. That's when springs are the most challenged.
@@michaelbradford2816 Justin is correct. If you don't think you reduced the strength of the angle when you cut the notch for the spring in it then you don't understand engineering.
Neither of you saw the final result, so it is you who don't understand. It works well and I don't see any examples of your work either, by the way. Beyond that, I offer my experimental results to minds that profit from such. Simply put, if you can't appreciate actual results then it's probably results you didn't need, want or cared for. If you'd care to put on any of your actual work for evaluation some time, please know that the door is wide open for you on such a forum as this. I wish you well in whatever you attempt. Let's all look forward to your superior knowledge of engineering too. It'll be wonderful to behold I'm quite sure.
@@michaelbradford2816 you already destroyed the temper In that section when you over bent the thing. You must be an engineer with your tools and jig. Just heat it and bend it over. I do this kind of work everyday for 30 years now
Yes. However, I wanted something that isn't available or even discussed. That extra tail comes in handy for a heavy gate where space is at somewhat a premium. My work is usually overkill, so don't worry. It probably won't be repeated by anyone. One thing it does show, however, is that the spring may still be worked cold without damaging it. My gate is really too heavy, but now it won't slam to ground.
OMG.....just cut off the excess. It lends nothing to the function when left long. You just need enough to contact the angle iron well. And weld a solid piece of metal on the bracket where you presently have the spring end pressing against expanded metal.
That comment has come in before. However, I had a special need that the extended tail fulfilled. Not everything is always the same. I could have ordered a short tailed spring cheaper if that's all I had wanted.
Simple and works great!
Thank you for your comment today.
That’s amazing and will help with my drop gate on vintage horse trailer
Good to know. It's funny how a small change can be huge in the field especially when dealing with an 1100lb animal! Take care.
Great video! I'm going to use your design.
Thank you
Thank You for the informative and educational video. I see a lot of great ideas for improvements to utility trailers. Have A Great Day! 🛻
Thank you. Glad it helped you.
Great job.
Say the trailer is parked on a higher patch of land than we’re the the gate would lay down, if it goes to far would those bent springs not slip and get caught on the bottom of the trailer?
Micheal Bradford i think you have the springs around the wrong way. I would say the long arm of the spring is pre designed to take more load of the tailgate, as it comes down it slides up further thus taking less weight as it binds up. Which ironically reduces the force exerted on the spring as it binds up. Thoughts or am i wrong?
long arm lever two me, on dah load
Where did you purchase the springs? A very clean modification.
horsetraileraccessory store
Thank u
Where are you get ion your springs and how much?
Will you please send me a link where you about to torch the springs? I would love to do this to the lift gate
Thank you for the idea. We have enclosed trailers with ramp with the poorly designed torsion spring/cable system. Every 6 mo. or so I am repairing the system where someone runs into it with a piece of equipment. I am looking to either sell all the existing trailers and convert to the torsion spring trailers with the torsion springs at the hinge of the ramp door. Any ideas for converting? Any and all ideas welcome. Thx.
One design I really like but could not get to involves putting a leaf spring under the trailer that works with a roller on the outer edge of the gate. It's a tough looking setup, but has to be designed from the ground up. I never liked the cylinder/chain or cable either. There are heavier coil springs by the way that could do somewhat the same function as the leaf spring. I don't have another trailer to experiment with or I probably would be attempting something new. Good to hear from you and please be careful with springs.
Can u send me a link to purchase those springs please. Thank u
i cant fine dem springs
The only thing that I don't like is the spring end sticking out even though it's rounded off. Kind of like the the hitch sticking out of the receiver on your pickup. Good video though.
he solves that at the end of the vid. its most the vid
Where did you find the 3/4" shaft springs? I can't find them.
I believe those were at horsetraileraccessory store all one word on the Internet. I can't put a url here since it's not allowed. There should be other sources. Oh yeah, the virus probably has curtailed production of things. Forgot about that. There are fewer supplies of things for now. I have nothing to sell or for sale. Look at trailer suppliers. Someone hopefully will get back to you.
Where did you buy the spring at and what is its rating for pounds?
At horsetraileraccessorystore Not sure of rating, but more than you could burn through, however. Be careful with any bending or alterations. Avoid heating.
Please include links when you're showing us something you use we might want to get one too
Seriously ☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ please 🙏
Can you please also send me or post the link to buy these springs?
No links allowed here, but just Google it.
Where did you get the torson springs to do the ramp with?
horsetraileraccessorystore.com
what is the length of the spring and the lbs it will handle? Thanks for your reply.
The length is about six inches and will fit a 3/4" bolt. I'm unsure of the exact loading for distortion, but it must be fairly high. I'd estimate at least 300 lbs. These don't fail. Severe cooling could be not so good, however. That's when springs are the most challenged.
How'd you get the 2*4 off?
Broke it.
What is the brand name of these springs? Where can i buy them please? Thanx beau
No brand. Just Google it. I did.
You should put a bracket on the mesh to prevent the spring from ripping it.
It's pretty tough as is.
What item number are the springs and where did you get them. I cant find that type
horsetraileraccessorystore
Part Number:RASHM112
Why didn't you show how you got all the stuff off the spring end before you completed the bend ?
Hummm. Just got tired I guess?
where do you buy your springs?
horsetraileraccessorystore.com They don't know me. Maybe they should?
Where do I get those springs?????
horsetraileraccessorystore.com
Note: I don't do it for ad money. I get nothing.
Underpowered springs!
No
By cutting a slot for the spring, you lost most of the strength of the gate at that lateral
No. It's a heavy box.
@@michaelbradford2816 Justin is correct. If you don't think you reduced the strength of the angle when you cut the notch for the spring in it then you don't understand engineering.
Neither of you saw the final result, so it is you who don't understand. It works well and I don't see any examples of your work either, by the way. Beyond that, I offer my experimental results to minds that profit from such. Simply put, if you can't appreciate actual results then it's probably results you didn't need, want or cared for. If you'd care to put on any of your actual work for evaluation some time, please know that the door is wide open for you on such a forum as this. I wish you well in whatever you attempt. Let's all look forward to your superior knowledge of engineering too. It'll be wonderful to behold I'm quite sure.
heat it up until it's red . Bingo
Nope. Temper.
Torch???
Never. That would undo the tempering.
@@michaelbradford2816 you already destroyed the temper In that section when you over
bent the thing. You must be an engineer with your tools and jig. Just heat it and bend it over. I do this kind of work everyday for 30 years now
@@bradwatters1547 where can I order these springs in bulk? And stainless would be a plus
@@bretneyman5577 Try global industrial or McMaster Carr. Grainger has them , not sure about bulk
Looks like there could be another easier way with less time but thanks
Yes. However, I wanted something that isn't available or even discussed. That extra tail comes in handy for a heavy gate where space is at somewhat a premium. My work is usually overkill, so don't worry. It probably won't be repeated by anyone. One thing it does show, however, is that the spring may still be worked cold without damaging it. My gate is really too heavy, but now it won't slam to ground.
You just weaking the ramp with that slot
Not really.
Not real smart guy. I don't have a lathe setting around to make tools to bend a made product.
Why didn’t u just cut off excess material
The tails were important to me for this design. They provided push back I wanted.
OMG.....just cut off the excess. It lends nothing to the function when left long. You just need enough to contact the angle iron well. And weld a solid piece of metal on the bracket where you presently have the spring end pressing against expanded metal.
That comment has come in before. However, I had a special need that the extended tail fulfilled. Not everything is always the same. I could have ordered a short tailed spring cheaper if that's all I had wanted.
Should see me