“Israel Needed War” Slavoj Žižek Meets Yanis Varoufakis (Part 3)

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  • Опубликовано: 15 дек 2024

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  • @sekounk
    @sekounk 6 дней назад +99

    no one snitch, we're not supposed to be here 🤫

    • @TheRealBeeBzZ
      @TheRealBeeBzZ День назад +2

      Lucky duck 🦆

    • @AudioPervert1
      @AudioPervert1 12 часов назад +1

      Slavoj Žiźek, reknowned cultural theorist and public intellectual. His bizarre and often meaningless propositions aside, he mirrors the same euro-centric chauvinism of Samuel Huntington, viz a viz a ‘clash of civilizations’ when he declared that “it is a simple fact that most of the refugees come from a culture that is incompatible and hostile with Western European notions of human rights.” Torchbearer of the European bourgeois cultural apparatus, all be it Slavoj is “Discursive Sausage for the Uneducated” (Gabriel Rockhill). Of all the ‘Hegelian Hogwash’ that Žiźek has come to symbolize, he can never utter a word about the CIA, about Samuel Huntington’s long involvement with the US Govt in framing globalist imperial policies. The disasters of which, are visible from Iran to Nicaragua to Indonesia. For this reason, Žiźek is an outstanding example of devotion to imperialism and the current world order.

    • @cybergeek9152
      @cybergeek9152 3 часа назад +1

      🤫

  • @johnsontunu4071
    @johnsontunu4071 День назад +13

    Zizek may have been benefiting immensely from his almost incessant gesticulation in speech. It's a sort of fitness club activity for his organism. He seems hearty and healthy for his age (75).

    • @ginemginem
      @ginemginem 11 часов назад

      I wholeheartedly agree. Look up NEAT (non-exercise activity thermogenesis) if you didn't hear of it before. The man is a NEAT machine. Also the constant and unrelenting avalanche of brain activity doesn't hurt either :)

    • @User-g2c7t
      @User-g2c7t 8 часов назад

      😂😂

  • @nickzick2372
    @nickzick2372 День назад +15

    First of all, I could listen to these 2 for hours if not days on end. Second of all, because of dyslexia I have not managed to read many books in my short life so far (mid twenties) but I enjoy and succumb to such discussions and analysis on youtube which is content more befitting to my less than optimal brain. I just want to say briefly, my own theory, based on deductions from around the start of pandemic onwards. I was sitting much more indoors, I was also apolitical at the time, but like many chose to waste a lot of time on pop trends, videos and silly discussions. Among other trends I witnessed the rise of figures such as Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson as a following or a sequel to a very abrupt rise and showcase of "extreme" progressivism such as the woke movement which at the time they equally left a bad taste in my mouth but maybe more the side with less humor and self satire (as displayed between Yanis and Slavoj) which happened to be the left. This whole ordeal has felt almost orchestrated in front of my eyes with the employment of the algorithms and the platforms themselves, as almost a chaotic test run on if some western political power behind it could pull off mass online hysteria and dichotomy between the more conservative spectrum and the more progressive one. Of course I could be completely wrong, but this notion, this feeling has stuck in my mind ever since and I cannot seem to shake it. To append some more, I'm sure there are distinctions between conservatives and progressives but when you see people normally in the streets or their everyday lives you don't see this insane gap or chasm that seemingly took place in the pandemic when everyone was on their phone and maybe propagandised or manipulated or brainwashed en masse, I include myself of course. Most people, if not all, seem to agree when it boils down to basic needs. And as a different subject entirely, but as a comment and a bleak thought, I always had in the back of my mind that if leaders and technofeudalists wanted to actively (or more actively) employ and weaponise their algorithms they would disconnect each nation or country from each platform, or maybe ban internet access entirely and then immediately arm and fire through conventional media a dystopian but untrue narrative of something along the lines of extreme nationalism. Basically armament of fear, which always seems to work surprisingly well on populations or groups. Even another example would be that the constituents of failed states such as Israel or Russia now, if soldiers simply, had like a military union among themselves and agreed to not pickup arms or follow orders, leaders and more importantly their image therefore power would fold like a house made of cards. People, the majority, always will have the last word and the highest power no matter the wealth or political power they are up against. Something I would like and hope for everyone to keep in mind for years, centuries and millenia to come.

    • @kostas7143
      @kostas7143 4 часа назад

      For a person with dyslexia, you write very well.

  • @ArchOrigin
    @ArchOrigin День назад +4

    10:25 There is no comparison to be made between Singapore, which lays on a major maritime intersection and thus serves as a hub for trade and finance, and Congo, which is landlocked and has no navigable rivers to the ocean. Congo without mineral resources would be more comparable to Siberia in terms of its economy, a place outsiders can only reach by plane or one single train track either to fell trees in some outpost or shoot travel/nature documentaries.

  • @ldjkfg
    @ldjkfg 7 дней назад +15

    19:50
    isn't this in a way just the same dynamic as any old wage labor
    the idea that anyone can have any kind of job instead of inheriting a defined caste and line of work is not just "apparently" liberating. it really is, but then wage labor is the formula of new kinds of alienation and exploitation all the same.
    i don't see why you can't say the same thing about precarious work. the freedom that you gain is not necessarily "fake," but it's nothing in comparison to the more advanced forms of alienation and exploitation (greater obfuscation of class relations, constant self marketing, self-surveillance/policing etc.) that come with it.
    leisure time goes from a bracketed section of the day of phony relaxation and diversion, which ultimately only contributes to the maintenance of one's ability to continue to sell their labor power, to something that is infused into work time or vice versa. it is a way to go back to 12+ hour work days by having leisure and work bleed into each other, and while expanding the "rights" of more and more people to exploit themselves. even kids have online "side hustles" in spaces where labor laws cannot yet apply.

    • @kevinfairbanks6983
      @kevinfairbanks6983 5 дней назад

      Not sure labor laws will ever apply here. As capitalism breaks, interstices open for more and more absurd versions of the relationship to labor. These two seem giddy to grasp the true nature of it. My question to you is, why describe the obsurd so as to grasp it's true nature. It is obsurd. The human caught in the vortex will hardly grasp the contradictions, rather vote to protect the arena. Post capitalism is nonsensical and might as well have theme music if millions weren't dying in the tide pools of it receding. It will destroy itself, despite liberal defensive action. It is in the end defeatist. Why act at all? I think our peculiar project at this time is to keep each other from going mad with the contradictions. Arguing over the definition will inevitably distract from the sunrise, flowers, childlike wonder. I ramble. Stay optimistic!

  • @MrMaltasar
    @MrMaltasar 5 дней назад +19

    Video is unlisted. Fix it!

  • @lucianorivas1331
    @lucianorivas1331 2 дня назад +21

    How can you not love zizek, such a character

  • @forughsemadeni8517
    @forughsemadeni8517 18 часов назад +2

    When the product is free, you are the price.

  • @the-trusteeship
    @the-trusteeship День назад +1

    Yes, we should be paid to report well! We can be enlightened by the process of writing the URI because we can transcend (or respond) to what was written and the fate that results.

  • @cubleathetrailerporchmonol7739
    @cubleathetrailerporchmonol7739 10 дней назад +7

    Anybody know who this Elaine (sp?) Kazupancic is and what the title of the book Slavoj references here at about 23:00 is called? Anyone Slavoj cops to being smarter than him is someone I want to find out about.

  • @amargamentedoce
    @amargamentedoce День назад +4

    What would Zizek tell us about #LuigiMangione ?

  • @pjaworek6793
    @pjaworek6793 День назад +1

    Bonus section!! Most fun presenters!

  • @Nyghl0
    @Nyghl0 11 часов назад +1

    That's a really good point that closes this video, that bringing a subject out into public discourse can dilute any sense of urgency about it.
    Talking too much about important issues drives people to dismiss them in the form of a soundbite, meme, joke or cliché because it no longer carries that pent up frustration of being silenced, so it isn't exciting anymore.
    By direct contrast, all the pent up frustration of not being supposed to talk about politically incorrect positions was released by the US president elect. Kamala didn't satisfy the same kind of urge latent in the left, where someone like Bernie may have done better.
    In fact, UHC Luigi has harnessed the libidinal urge of the left so successfully that he's even captured the support of most of the right too.

  • @cybergeek9152
    @cybergeek9152 3 часа назад +1

    ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @SquidofCubes
    @SquidofCubes День назад +2

    The problem with a capital gains system is that all growth trends are exponential. i.e. the goal is to "snowball" your wealth as much as possible. It's the same as the force of gravity. Large sums of money bring others into their orbit and eventually absorb them. In a static space these systems always tend toward a single black hole. (Luckily for physics, the space time is expanding, so not all black holes merge, they just get increasingly powerful and isolated. But more unfortunately for economics, the space of capital opportunity on earth is finite, limited by the earth's natural resources. So a "free market" system naturally, inevitably, tends toward a single person owning all the money. )

    • @farrider3339
      @farrider3339 13 часов назад

      Cool hypothesis. However space expanding to nirvana is an agreed upon assumption so far. We only have the red shift observation. For the rest of all this cosmic doing we cannot even say why galaxies do not flung apart.

  • @Moribus_Artibus
    @Moribus_Artibus День назад +2

    14:49 "you're a bourgeois liberal secretly" 😂

  • @AverySuzuki
    @AverySuzuki 10 часов назад

    Does anyone know what video vatoufakis is talking about where Netanyahu talks about supporting Hamas

  • @DanielKornitzer-v7k
    @DanielKornitzer-v7k 8 часов назад +1

    Anyone who says that Gaza was like a concentration camp to justify that the Gazans had the right to storm the border with Israel isn't representing reality, but is just describing his fantasy world, where Palestinians have no agency and are like children at the mercy of the evil Israelis.
    The reality is that 180000 Gazans traveled each year out of Gaza to go shopping in Cairo or Istanbul - or to go train with Hezbollah in Lebanon. Gaza had a higher per capita income than Egypt. It had a water park (until Hamas closed it for religious reasons) and a Mercedes dealership. It had neighborhoods as nice as Israeli middle-class neighborhoods. That was the reality. And now it is all gone. Not because of Israel, or of Netanyahyu. But because of their own leadership. Palestinians are not children. They had a choice, and that is what they choose.

  • @mabdullah9496
    @mabdullah9496 День назад +5

    no wonder the video was censored; great one!

  • @knivgaffelskje
    @knivgaffelskje 3 дня назад +4

    Does anyone have a link to the video of Netanyahu that Varoufakis talked about, where he is saying Israel funded Hamas and need it to prevent a two party solution? I tried to find it but am not able to.

    • @alexdanila7454
      @alexdanila7454 2 дня назад +1

      Part 2 of this series: ruclips.net/video/UEf3a2FAB28/видео.html There's some mistake with linking them.

  • @jjjccc728
    @jjjccc728 12 часов назад

    Overall, the speaker’s monologue and responses to questions paint a bleak picture of a world dominated by techno-feudalism, resurgent warlordism, and a pervasive sense of alienation and exploitation. He sees these trends reflected in a variety of contemporary conflicts and political phenomena, from the Israel-Hamas conflict to the rise of Donald Trump.

  • @mariettestabel275
    @mariettestabel275 11 часов назад

    Crazy World...

  • @jkabrams341
    @jkabrams341 День назад +1

    I don't know if it's part of his tick or not but god Slavoj needs to get to the point and share a discussion from time to time. It's frustrating.

  • @ArchimedesWoo
    @ArchimedesWoo День назад +2

    🔥✊🏼🔥

  • @woodandwandco
    @woodandwandco 5 дней назад +3

    Global algorithmic enlightenment is the solution to our cognitive dissonance, and human will is the only obstacle.

    • @mArs0x0h
      @mArs0x0h 3 дня назад +1

      Haha nice one

  • @anshak2
    @anshak2 6 часов назад

    Technofeudalism: 'big corporations and so on'

  • @hartyewh1
    @hartyewh1 День назад +8

    I have massive respect and appreciation for Slavoj and like Yanis as well, but his Israel-Palestine views seem simplistic and Slavoj seems to accept them at face value without expressing them himself. Open-air prison, apartheid, almost always resistance are things that I have never heard said without any depth or nuance on the topic and Yannis doesn't seem to aim to be the first to do so.

    • @thomaskloos6409
      @thomaskloos6409 12 часов назад

      I think it's the other way around. I have never heard Zizek express his views on Palestine in-depth. But, yes, something to look out for!

  • @emafink3018
    @emafink3018 День назад +1

    zkarie

  • @InternalStryke
    @InternalStryke 7 дней назад

    16:37

  • @heyons2808
    @heyons2808 16 часов назад

    Slavoj is getting old

  • @GnosisMan50
    @GnosisMan50 8 часов назад

    I find it tiring listening to Žižek. He thinks faster than he speaks hence he can't get the words out fast enough. It's like he's in a complustive hurry to make his point but what's the hurry? His accent, nervous ticks, and speech impediment does not help either. If I had these setbacks, rest assured I'd find a way to rise above them. Looks like Žižek would care less about them. Fine, but I'm sure many people lose interest in what he has to say because his manner of speaking is too distracting and even annoying.

  • @AudioPervert1
    @AudioPervert1 12 часов назад

    Slavoj Žiźek, reknowned cultural theorist and public intellectual. His bizarre and often meaningless propositions aside, he mirrors the same euro-centric chauvinism of Samuel Huntington, viz a viz a ‘clash of civilizations’ when he declared that “it is a simple fact that most of the refugees come from a culture that is incompatible and hostile with Western European notions of human rights.” Torchbearer of the European bourgeois cultural apparatus, all be it Slavoj is “Discursive Sausage for the Uneducated” (Gabriel Rockhill). Of all the ‘Hegelian Hogwash’ that Žiźek has come to symbolize, he can never utter a word about the CIA, about Samuel Huntington’s long involvement with the US Govt in framing globalist imperial policies. The disasters of which, are visible from Iran to Nicaragua to Indonesia. For this reason, Žiźek is an outstanding example of devotion to imperialism and the current world order.