Selling Arcade Gannon To Caesar's Legion - Three Unique Endings
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
- Selling Your Companion Arcade Gannon To Legion with Different Hidden
Outcomes & Dialogue In Fallout New Vegas
Intro 0:00
Selling Arcade To Caesar 0:07
Selling Arcade To Lucius 2:17
Independent New Vegas Ending 3:43 
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I like how Caesar actually liked Arcade and mourned him
Caesar probably doesn’t get many chances to exercise his brain by speaking with a very well read individual, while there’s no way of knowing I would assume that those conversations would be some of the most tolerable moments for Arcade as well
Funny how Caesar's ideal society made it impossible for him to speak with any educated people but Arcade regularly
@@vulpes7079 The current Legion is not his ideal society, it is a tool he uses to create his actual ideal society once he conquers the NCR
@@illyrian9976 sorry but I'm not sure that justifies slavery, crucifixions, and all that shit
@@illyrian9976 besides that, the Legion openly shuns all technology that doesn't directly help Caesar, like the Auto Doc in his tent and the Power Fists his Praetorians use
Arcade is super chill about the whole thing. He'll ream you out for blowing up HELIOS One and killing Anderson, but sell him into slavery and he'll just be _vastly_ disappointed in you.
I think that just shows how selfless he is. He sees great personal harm in being a slave to Caesar, but he sees greater public harm in power being directed to the orbital weapon, rather then communities in need.
It is heartbreaking that you can do such terrible things to him.
Not like he can even do much about it.
@@whoareyoutoaccuseme6588 Well he did off himself
He isn't angry, he's just disappointed
That's why I like him, although I prefer Cass and rex vastly, he's definitely one of the more moral characters
Fun fact-Arcade’s end in the first ending is based on Cato the Younger. When Caesar defeated Pompey in the Roman civil war, Cato refused to be pardoned by Caesar and instead disemboweled himself with a sword. Caesar apparently wept for weeks.
it's so fucking funny to me that Arcade chose to go out all poetic like that
Hard to believe that he wept for Cato, I can see why he wouldve for Pompey, but Cato was just a massive douche, who was one of the major reasons why the pompeyans even lost the war. And all that running away to greece and africa, opposing caesar time after time, Im pretty sure he wasnt happy about the suicide because he couldnt spare him and show that he was the better man
Didn't he weep when he was presented the head of Pompey
I don't think he would do so for the incarnation of sweaty balls and fanatical conservatism
@@astrofornaught common Arcade W
best comment and responses 🔥
When the Courier says, "The world needs Caesar more than it needs you", Arcade responds with a quote from Lucan's _Pharsalia_ , "the winning cause pleased the gods, but the lost cause pleased Cato"
Could you explain what this means
@@jamesserrano5619 It's a pretty common lament picked up from the poem - basically glorifies Cato going down with the side he believed in ("republicanism") even though he knew it would fail, rather than betraying his principles to side with the caesarian faction and win. I'm pretty sure it gets used on some american civil war monuments in the south, but its basically an ode to last stands.
I just think it’s funny that phrase is somehow the most pleasant thing he says to you after you sell him to ceasar
@@cormacdonnelly365 Republicanism as it should be, instead of the one we have now, where the party has a Caesar-like ruler (ironically with brain problems), and the laws they made to control childbirth.
@@korhol2065 he says it was such defeat in his voice.
“Victrix causa deis placuit sed victa catoni” - "The victorious cause pleased the gods, but the conquered cause pleased Cato" A quote from Pharsalia, a poem written written by Lucan during the time of the Roman civil war between Caesar and Pompey. One that describes both sides of the conflict as equally wrong, if for different reasons. In said poem Cato the Younger, a stoic man, realizes the Caesar, there depicted as a vicious power hungry monster, has won the war. He knows he will be offered pardon, offered a life under new rule. Cato instead chooses to take his life, by eviscerating himself, to die with dignity and honor.
From the very start of his slavery under Caesar, from the moment he exchanged last words with the courier, Gannon knew he will take his life in the exact same way. It was no spur of moment - he lived with that thought for years.
“After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one.”
See, stuff like this is why I'm never going to sell Arcade into slavery. Plus I love him to bits.
thank you for sharing that was very interesting
Holy moly I guess this game's lore is hella lot more deeper than I know rn
I feel so bad for enslaving him now goddammit. I would've just gotten the auto doc parts but I didn't know about them I must've missed the dialog. And my medicine skill was too low to save Caesar
I think it's fucking hilarious that arcade got so fed up with having to be ceasers debate partner that he would rather kill himself than be part of one more debate with a hegelian cancer patient
caesar: "well according to hegel..."
arcade: "that's it i'm fuckin doing it"
completely understandable action.
@patrick leduc im pretty sure it's intentional, fallout is satirical after all. The kind of "i read philosophy once, now i know how world should be organized" -types of people.
@patrick leduc That's not Caesar goal. You're also considering that progression will always be better from our current moral perception, when it can and many times have been in a totally different direction from what people use to believe was good. Caesar also explain that he is only using the roman symbolism, not that he wanted to rebuild the Roman empire politically like it was.
If thing were different they might have been friends
I didn't even know you could do this, Pretty sad ending for Arcade, He has worse luck than Benny
Ummmm, favourite slave or hung on a cross? I’ll take slavery thank you.
@@john-paulsilke893
You forget how he cut himself open with a surgical scalpel, taking your own life is pretty tragic
Yeah, Benny was unlucky enough to shoot the main character of all people. You know how easy it would’ve been if he shot someone else? Vegas would’ve been his in a month
@@handleonafridge6828 Benny would never succeed lmao
Yea, arcade definitely has a lot of bad endings. Wether that be being killed, imprisoned, slavery, or suicide
Damn 18 months they made this game and they still surprise me with the detail they still had time to put in
And I always forget they got Danny Trejo to voice Raul. He quips are just fantastic
This game wasn't built from the ground up. It's literally an expansion of Fallout 3. All they had to do was focus on the details. So this shouldn't be a surprise.
@@cechzc1u they did Improve on the engine tho
Also they had a smaller team than F3
@@cechzc1u still impressive even though it's buggy as hell
They had a complete engine. Bethesda worked for months before the dev cycle started working on modyfing the AI for Obsidian.
Arcade and Caesar in ending 1 mimic the real life Cato and Caesar. Cato, being unskilled in weaponry, died after recovering from a suicide attempt and pulling his own guts out with his hands. Caesar, even in conflict respecting Cato, mourned his death. That’s some great work by someone at obsidian.
Arcade is such a nice guy I could never betray him. It makes me so sad the way he says “goodbye courier”
Same, that line made me change my view on him, he is annoying as fuck with his morality sometimes but I can't hate him
I really like that guy....He is calm and...always cool...
@@EnigmaJenkins Well that's out of pocket to be honest but go you I guess.
i hate him, hes hypocrite prick
I never understood why you can't pose as Caesar's agent and just having Arcade "accidently" botch his brain surgery.
He’s too morally uptight and frowns upon a lot of stuff but never does anything to change it
Because he believes in “do no harm” arcade is a very moral man
He wouldn’t go against then even for someone he is so opposed to.
There's a lot that could've been, if Bethesda had given Obsidian another year, or even years to refine such an epic title.
@@basedsneedclave175 Well in the video he even says he'll make an exception for Caesar because of the slavery in the legion.
Because then the legion would give him a slow and painful death. Why would Arcade go for this suicide mission?
I did it, on my full Legion playthrough, doing all what it and could be good for the Legion, pretty sad ending for him, but it was done in the name of science.
In the name of greater good
@@enclavesoldier5842 ..."The Greater Good"
@@MegaDuckmonster Yes.
Ave, true to Ceasar
Ave, true to Caesar
The zoom-out shot of Arcade dead in a ditch at the end is hilarious and I don't know why
"Why don't you make like Odysseus and get loss!"
One of my favorites
get loss!
Oh no... He read a book and is making references literally 99,9999999% people wont get.. And even in pre war world.
Maybe instead of reading useless literature, he should learn how to make stimpacks or at least healing powder.
@@foreignfat6009
Shakespeare and Greek Mythology isn't that uncommon.
@@Nutsaur I am one the wierd minority which actually reads this kind of literature. I read Odyssey around 5 times, but I never met anybody who read that book. And now imagine if I make references to it. Fecking nobody would know what the I am talking about and now imagine in post-apocalypse... Where most books were burnt in atomic fire or for campfire.
I understand some latin, but everybody would hate me if I start saying quotes in LATIN.
It would be incredibly pretentious.
Gannon was with followers for years, he had prior Enclave knownlage and education. But he accomplished nothing. He cant even make anything useful or otherwise.
Meanwhile Mobius can create better robots than anybody pre war (assaultron and military grade sentry bot might be better)
from SPARE PART and he wasn't even expert in robotics, unlike 0.
These two supposedly should have same inteligence.
X
@@foreignfat6009
Snuffles' intelligence is higher than Caesar.
Once I'vee played and bonded with all the companions and learning their story it makes it almost impossible for me to do an evil playthrough and do any harm to them in any way lol
That's one of the beautiful things about this game, you can get so easily emotionally attached to the companions once you discover their personal stories
That's why you turn off your emotions during an evil playthrough, or at least find the humor in your despicable actios.
@@whoareyoutoaccuseme6588 like assassinating Kimball with Archimedes II
That's why to this day I have not killed doc Mitchell or rex or Raul once. I will admit I killed arcade before, but for a justified reason.
He had some sick power armor I couldn't get because I didn't pass a speech check so I just killed him for it 🙂
The only companions i gave a shit abput were raul lily and rex soo, gues i know what im doing in my next legion playthrough
Fun fact. The pissed off Enclave intern you crank call in fallout 2 is Arcade's dad.
holy shit really?
I don’t think that’s confirmed
_Enclave here. Why isn't your video feed working?_
@@DrWeaselJenkins its confirmed in my heart 😔
source: i made it the fuck up
I love how even after being sold into slavery by his good friend and now has to serve the man he hates more than anything, Arcade is still sarcastic and passive aggressive towards you.
Best companion.
To think, only if they had more time to develop this game. A greater masterpiece it would have been.
Yeah this game sucks
@@calvin6314 wtf no
@@calvin6314 LMAO
@@calvin6314 lol
This is literally an expansion of Fallout 3. All the hard work was already done. So yeah, they had plenty of time.
Love that Caesar literally cried because he lost the only guy he can talk with intellectually. Now he's just going to spend the rest of his life talking to his cult followers. XD
I can imagine Ceasar having to stop every time Arcade disagrees with him to stop some Preatorian from killing Arcade for 'defiance'.
Ceasar: No no, I WANT him to disagree with me. His differing veiw helps identify any problems in my plans to improve.
Imteresring thing too, as mentioned above the Latin phrase Arcade mentions at the start translates to " The victorious cause pleased the gods, but the vanquished cause pleaded Cato." And it was also said that Arcade disemboweled himself with a scalpel and his bare hands. After Cato the Younger, a roman Senator, lost the battle of Thapsus against Caeser in the Roman Civil war, he committed suicide the exact same way. With a knife and his bare hands. The writing of this game astounds me sometimes.
Yeah and Julius Caesar wept over Cato’s death. Cato would’ve been pardoned but wanted to die with the revolution before he’d accept Caesar
As my favorite companion, it's kinda sad knowing he has more than just one bad ending.
Right? I think the only companion that has it worse than Arcade is Lily, because none of her endings are really good. At least with Arcade there are a few "things turned out alright."
It sucks that Raul and Lily aren’t even very developed companions. I mean Rex has more content than them put together. At least I have Veronica (even though half the time I play NV, she gets a sad ending)
Only the post-Enclave Reunion Yes-Man endings are good for him; ironic considering that ending is arguably the worst for everyone else.
Arcade having poor endings is a critique of idealistic thinking in the Post-apocalyptic Dystopia of the Fallout Universe.
@@Jade0603 There should have been an option to convince the Brotherhood to just go away from the Mojave somehow.
@@whitegoose2017 There was a cut option for House's route where you infiltrate the Brotherhood and convince them to stay in lockdown or leave the Mojave. There were even voicelines recorded for House's reaction to it, but ultimately the option was cut because it would have made House's route too compelling and it was out of character for House to change his mind on the BoS
I didn't know you could sell him after Caesar is dead anyway, or that there was a unique ending for doing so. All these years, and I'm STILL learning new things about this game!
Arcade killing himself is doubly devastating because he picked one of the most agonizing and complicated ways to go. It must have been about sending a message to his slavers.
Not really. He chose one of the more painful ways to kill himself as a smug "gotcha" to the only other guy on that side of the Colorado who probably understood that reference. It's actually laughably pathetic and petty.
@@FriendlyDarkwraith Was the point lol
On my next playthrough i'll sell him to caesar.
@@sadih3130 he's just a business guy doing business.
I can't believe there is an ending to this game where you can crucify Arcade Gannon
Don't you get 3rd unique ending so long as you sell Arcade AND choose any one besides Legion?
I thought the ending also triggers if you go Mr. House or NCR route
You can't sell him and then do house cause Caesars tumors only occur after the kill house quest. I'm unsure of how it works with NCR, but that might work as I don't think you're locked out at that point for the NCR
@@ryankasch5561 The NCR route isn't possible either, because the NCR will declare you a terrorist before you get this far with the legion.
@@koenekekoen491 yes man
@@koenekekoen491 "it's about fucking time"
This game never cases to amaze
It's really interesting to know after so many years you replayed the game over and over, there are still things you're yet to discover.
Never seen these endings because in over 900 hours that i played this game no once i have used Arcade as a companion and i don't see myself using him for another 900.
based
Waste
Its worth it for the enclave mission.
Based
imagine liking the enclave
Good stuff, I didn!t know that, thanks!
very informative overview
I had no idea this was an option, thank you.
Arcade is such a sweetie. I couldn't do that to him.
I love Gannon, man. I could never do him like this.
I had no idea you could do any of this!
So you're telling me, Arcade is too morally lawful that he wouldn't stoop so low to kill Ceasar during surgery, yet was short sighted enough to kill himself?
He was in the perfect position to slowly influence the mind of Ceasar. For such a smart man, he seems pretty quick to tap out.
Arcade probably knew specifics about the Legions use of torture, and was rightfully scared of killing Caesar
Coulve killed Ceasar and then kimself. But the Hippopotamus Oath or whatever. Lmao
@VoltDenatsu "You dont become a doctor without a strict moral code," ahaahahah
That was kind of Arcade though. He probably could've had a larger role in the Enclave as well, but if an organization didn't align with his principles, he didn't stick around and didn't want to.
You don't influence a mind like Caesars. He knew there would be no point in even trying to change Caesar's mind.
Wow. Imma have to check that out on my next playthrough
Holy crap, I can't believe I hadn't heard of these before!
That first arcade ending is inspired by the actual death of Cato
This game just keeps on giving!
Arcade is like if Johnny Test had his sisters intelligence but with no personality
I think Arcade is pretty charismatic. My second favorite companion personality after Veronica.
Idk about Charisma, but he's interesting fella.
Way more than real life Ancoms.
@@jehehehedias5881 no he's boring af, he look like a random leftist with a phd paid by his dad who never truly work in his life and always talk shit like book are real life when he could'nt survive two hours without mom's money (even if it's not the case lore wise, i only talk about feeling), and i'm leftist, scientist and a worm book too lmao
@@elbarone9749 k
@@elbarone9749 "worm book"
4 minutes and 17 seconds of making me sad, Arcade is my favorite companion in any game. You are big meany for doing all this to him :P
"Victrix causa deis placuit sed victa catoni" - "the winning cause pleased the gods, but the lost cause pleased Cato". This is a reference to Caesar's civil war, in which Cato was a major opponent of Caesar. Cato would ultimately kill himself by ripping out his own organs, a knife not being available.
Before the civil war, Cato was also known to spar verbally with Cato in the senate, the two being leaders of the opposing factions of the time. Arcade's death is a reference to this in the first ending is a reference to this.
I’ve played this game 30 times I had no idea about these endings
Yoo how are u all not talking about this man taking his own damn guts out with a scalpel and his hands
I thinks it’s a reference to the historical death of Cato where after his defeat at the hands of Julius Caesar he disemboweled himself in a similar manner.
Caesar really loved arcade.
Can we please get your mod list and load order for new vegas? Your game looks awsome
wow i’m still learning stuff years later
My favorite hobby in fallout NV: Selling Arcade to the Caesar...
based run = int 1, luck 10, rush the strip, won shit ton of money in casino, get arcane, kill the computer boi and the cool jacket fucker, go to caesar fuckhouse, sell the redditard
Wow Caesar and Arcade becoming "friends" i feel like those two would be like a old married couple
Ah, yes, they were friends. Such good friends Arcade disembowelled himself
@@vulpes7079 thanks for this comment
I feel like it would be like llamas in hats, “caesaaaar, you can’t use Hegelian dialectics to justify genocide”
@@juliusrobertoppenheimer9104 fuck you, now I need to write a parody of first four episodes replacing Llamas with Gannon and Caesar"
"Uhhhh, Caesar, why is there a dead human in our house?"
"Hegelian dialectics told me that he was the antithesis, and I was thesis, so I created the synthesis of making him die"
"Caesaaaaaaaar, that kills people!"
What kind of sweet old lady rips her own guts out when her husband isn’t looking
1:10- That means “The cause was decided by the victorious gods, but Cato was conquered”
2022 and New Vegas is STILL getting videos!
I've never expected the last one 🤯
Good ending for him I’m going to do this next play through
RUclips reccomended me this while doing arcade's quest lol
Pretty sure that Archade would enjoy his time in the legion since as we know, plenty in the legion mount their male slaves and each other.
Honestly I nearly forgot that Arcade existed. I had more fun running around with the other characters, so after my first playthrough I wandered around with other people instead.
They got some pretty big celebs for voices, i keep forgetting Danny Trejo voiced Raul.
Probably my favorite side quests come from Arcade Gannon, Enclave for lifeee
I do this every playthrough, even in my slaughter legion playthrough - where his voice lines don't change at all
I didn't know about this endings!
I wish we could've got n ending where arcade changes Caesar mind about being a slave.
Ave,
True to Caesar.
What a game man
I never saw any of these, since Arcade never survived any of my playthroughs.
Surprised to find out no one actually uses all companions
I don't. There are some that just don't interest me, or who I find uninteresting or insufferable so I don't use them. I play a game to enjoy it, not find out every nuance there is to know about every possible thing that can be done with every possible combination of things, person, or group. (I never did a "Legion playthrough" because I hate the Legion and what they do, as another example) No slam on those who do, by any means, but there are probably a lot of people out there like myself.
@@TheDoctor1225 sure but it's fun to roleplzy
I use most of the companions when I'm doing a good karma run. In good karma runs I never use Lily because no meds makes her a dangerous mutant and always taking meds makes Lily a depressing drone. I personally believe Lily doing half doses is the best ending for her.
@TheDoctor1225 fallout 4 and NC have great side stories with their companions sorry u play games to suck at them
bro talks about sucking at games and he plays fallout, lmao, the irony
What ENB do you use!? Please tell me! Looks better than Arizona ENB!
I wish there was an ending where you could sacrifice yourself, saving Arcade from slavery like the ending of Breaking Bad.
This isn't that FO3 bullshit. Martyrdom is overrated.
Bro you can just not sell him at all, that's even better
@@gavaudan2131 Then he either gets killed by the Legion or gets arrested by the NCR.
the courier thinks theyre walter white
What happens if you sell Arcade then save him later on?
I don't think that's a possibility. You'd've been marked a terrorist and have killed House by now so I don't think there's a slide for that.
@@SkeweredGlaive We won't know unless we try! This is why New Vegas is such a great game. So many possibilities!
@@beiberns There's always a point of no return. Pretty sure the moment you make it to Caesar's tumor problems and try to diagnose it, you'rr already a terrorist to the NCR and the only other ending you can get if you opt in killing the Legion to save Arcade is the Yes Man ending
@@SkeweredGlaive But what if you sell him to Caesar and then kill everyone at the camp? Does he just sit there and act like hes still imprisioned?
@@AfterAttackTV I think so
Is it possible to get the enclave remnants to side with caesar and sell arcade?
Im curious what happens if you sell Arcade but then kill Caesar and everyone else in the tent, does he become a follower again?
Probably still the Legate ending. I don't think the game detects when you've killed everyone in the camp, just Caesar.
1:23 This line is made just a little bit better by the fact that the Latin name for Odysseus is Ulysses - a Courier who got so lost he ended up in a DLC.
I sort of wished their was a Unique good ending for Arcade when sold to Caesar.
Like Caesar learned to respect and trust Arcade more. To the point where Arcade was no longer considered a slave but instead as a friend.
A bit of a stretch but maybe even giving Caesar some closure in the sense that he am pulls back on this Legion Domnating the wasteland so he can make a utopia plan and sort of goes Back to the Followers
Damn dude that would be pretty cool!
I meant to do that in my legion playthrough, but I was too far in and he didn't want to hang out with me
I can imagine Lanius getting really annoyed with Arcade to the point where one day he’s just like, “Will you just SHUT.UP!!! You know what? Crucify this guy! Why is he even in our camp?”
It's pretty nuts how evil the game will let you be. You can also feed all your human companions to the cannibals at the ultra luxe as well.
Ooh, that's also a good ending for Arcade! Do they get their own ending slides?
@@gratefulguy4130 Probably just gives them the default "that guy died" slide.
"Et tumor BROOT"
lmao
So if you sell Arcade to the legion then attack the Fort kill Caesar etc can you take him back ???
You sold the guy into slavery
He isn’t trusting you for a fucking second
why would you take him back lmao, he's good where he is
(Speech 85) Arcade you really thought I sold you into slavery huh ?!
@@lie5196 need a 10 Charisma, idolized by the followers, and some part of his side quest done before doing any of that
Arcade seems to have a lot of not very great endings, but this one definitely is one of the worse endings
The legion allowing Arcade to keep a weapon on him once enslaved seems like a safety oversight
probably after a year or so they came to trust him with medical instruments in the tent
@@bookwermofthefandoms Think they're noting the plasma defender on his hip. That's probably just cause the game doesn't bother with details of eqipment.
This is the only reasonable thing to do with Arcade.
"Intelluctuals like you belong in my tent" - Caesar
Always hated Arcade's smarmy Reddit attitude, i sell him every time
The guy like the voice actor of arcade sounds a lot like Chuck
That's what Arcade gets for speaking all smart at me
Legion is just means to destroy the ncr and most likely revive the enclave, since Ceasar was a part of it
Arcade the only man in the wasteland Caesar cares about that is some accomplishment
I'm trying for an alternate ending with siding with the Legion. But then betraying them at Hoover Dam with Yes Man.
It would be cool if one ending had Caesar becoming a close friend of Arcade, making Arcade not longer a slave but rather staying in the Legion with an important role.
Maybe Arcade could have been the nee Caesar.
Arcade would never agree to that
@@marciegalo Over the course of eight years, people's minds can change.
@@trouslinabone I think one of arcades main things are his firmly held beliefs. If anyone was gonna flip flop he’d be the last person, and based off of his ending with the legion it’s clear even with time his opinions didn’t change
Everybody in the Legion except Caesar himself is a slave, technically speaking.
I try to kill Caesar after giving Arcade to see if you can free him but Arcade would actually defend Caesar if you attack him, even if you kill everyone but him he will keeps attacking you.
what if you rescue him after selling?
i didnt know cause out of all the play throughs i have done i never used him as a companion
Why would Arcade decide to brutally disembowel himself instead of something more quick and painless? Lol
These three ending and choices are more impactful/meaningful than the entirety of F4 and F3
The thing is that both Caesar and Arcade belonged to the Followers: thats why Caesar mourned him, he almost saw himself reflected in Arcade. His younger self.
I'm doing my first legion playthrough playing an evil character and I'm on a predicament about what to do with Arcade, on one hand I want to have him enslaved by the legion, on the other I'd like to progress his quest gathering the remnants and have them aid the legion. I wonder which should I chose, and I wonder if just maybe both are posible, I wonder if you could get his quest, advance it all the way were you can visit the remnants bunker and before talkin to them to decide who you want them to help, you go to Caesar and get to the point were you give him Gannon and then return to the bunker, then just maybe both could be possible, but I don't know if that would work or the moment the legion takes Gannon the remnants' bunker will become inaccessible.
The second you do anything positive for the Legion the quest Auld Lang syne fails automatically, if I remember correctly.
The moment you convince the Remnants to help Caesar, Arcade quits being your companion and leaves for good
To think his voice actor is now Shazam wow
Shazam, and Flynn Rider from Tangled, and Chuck from Chuck
I didn't know about the 3rd ending.
The arcade is at the boardwalk
I wish a well skilled Courier could become Caesar's personal physician.
Especially if you playing a female Courier ^^