Martin, to quote a saying my Dad used often... "You're as handy as a pocket on a shirt"! So knowledgeable and easily understandable, thank you for ALL your helpful tips!!
Sooooo happy to see someone who understands the importance of details!! One more thing... $10 per guy plus coffee and donuts BEFORE they begin the job is not only a nice gesture, it usually means a better job.
R V street is without question the best with respect to presentation and intelligent information..I never ceases to learn from you guys.. keep up the good work
bloody hell, Ive learnt so much about tyres that i never knew existed, and i was in the recovery business for a couple of years. every day is a school day. FANTASTIC
Thanks for all the info, picking up our new 2023 Forest River XLR Boost 21XLRX tomorrow. I am a retired truck driver of close to 25 years and the #1 cost is fuel and the 2nd biggest expense are tires. I owned several trucks in my career and the biggest thing I learned was to get yourself into a routine of checking your rig daily. Check your tires and your oil every time you get fuel and when you do stop for any reason always do a walk around, and unlike driving a big rig where you are on a schedule my RV days will be at a much slower pace. Thanks again.
A little more detail… The rubber grommets I showed to hold the extensions firmly in place are hard to find. BUT....I finally have them in my Amazon Store in the "Tire, Engine & Chassis Care" category. And I highly recommend installing Dill Stainless Stems and Extensions that you can get from the tire shop. They'll size them to the exact length you need. These grommets in my store are a little pricey but well worth the money. They also come with a pair of extensions that will probably be the wrong size for your needs. Just don’t use them. Simply press these tough rubber grommets into the holes on your outside dually’s rim, the extension goes through them, then attach your TPMS sensor. Don’t put any type of lubricant on the grommets before you press them in. You want them to press in tight. They’ll keep your extensions & TPMS sensor solid. www.amazon.com/shop/rvstreet Our front Michelin tires were approaching to dating out with age and our rear Toyo tires were already 4.5yrs. old and getting older every day. Even though I could have gotten more life out of the tires, being a full timer, I need good tires that I can rely on going forward in the future. I depend on my tires every day. I wanted to change them out now while I still could. With inflation now on rise and supply chains already stressed, I didn’t want to wait another 6 months to a year and then deal with getting new tires, even if I could find them. I’m already seeing and hearing reports from many RVer’s around the country, that many brands of tires are getting hard to find, back ordered for weeks/months and that’s if you can find them at all. And from what I’m seeing, it’s only going to get worse and prices going higher. So being the proactive guy that I am, I acted now. With my past experience with Toyo tires, I decided to go with M122's all the way around. They are a wider tire than the Michelin 235 x 80R22.5 XRV tires that comes standard on many Class A motorhomes or even the M154 Toyo that some Class A owners go with for a Michelin replacement. Even though the M154 are a little wider, I like the M122 because they’re even a little more wider. I like more meat on the road. And even though there are wider than the above two tires, they still allow enough clearance between the dually’s to keep the tires cool. You can install to thick of tires on the dually’s that will prevent proper cooling, but these Toyo’s are not one of them. In the past 4.5 years with my rear Toyo’s, my TPMS always showed those tires running right around 105º or so, and that’s in the summer with 90psi. They’re a terrific tire IMO. It took Southern Tire 3wks. to get these tires and they also installed Dill Stainless Stems and Extensions. If you're not going to Road Force Balance your tires OR run Centramatic Rings then the standard position for your stems on the rear dually's is 180º opposite of each other. Not side-by-side like I did mine. There is no one part number for Centramatic Rings. The ones you need will depend on the type of hubs you have, bolt pattern and the year and model of your RV. There are literally dozens of different configurations. Contact Centramatic sales and they'll get you the right ones for your RV. www.centramatic.com/
Thank you Martin. I appreciate all the fine details you provide in your videos. Many times it's a lack of details that can make a project much more difficult. Your easy step by step videos along with honest and detailed information makes your videos so good!!
Nice video and explanation. Had a Goodyear 670 blow out on the rear inner recently. TIre was only 4.5 years old. RV is garage kept, tires taken care of, pressure set correctly. Get Toyo or Michelin, I went with the Toyo M143. Stay far far away from Goodyear 670 or now the 647. We were on a smooth road, didn't hit anything. The temp outside was low 80s and the sidewall just decided to split.
Great video! I bought Toyo M154 2 yrs ago, they are great! I've read nothing but good stuff about them. When first shopping, I priced them online to be delivered but not one place would guarantee the date to be newer than 2 years! Unacceptable! So I called around local and found a tire shop that called their warehouse to get me dates that put the tires at 5-6 months old and they weren't much more money than online. Like you, I'd rather pay a little more and know what I'm getting. I do wish I bought those balancing plates (I will next time), not sure that these little beads do anything at all but I don't have shaking issues. If I need to replace one tire the balancing beads in the old tire are tossed away with the tire, it was my first time buying tires for my RV so I'll chalk it up to live and learn. Love the Toyo ride and price. So much cheaper than Michelin.
I will watch every single video. Because I know every question I have will be answered. Thank you, ❤🎉🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉Martin. Your tire video probably saved a lot of lives.
Martin thanks for the new tire video. Discovered your channel about 18 months ago because of your MH. I also have a Vista 35F, though a 2013 bought used in 2017. It was time to re-tire my coach, so changed the Michelins to 6 new M154 Toyos just last Monday. Left on our winter trip Thursday, and I'm very satisfied with the handling very well. Thanks so much for this and all of your videos, I can relate so well as we've the same model!
Hello to both of you. it is amazing to me how much I learned and now understand from watching your instructional videos. Thank you so much for making these videos. You have a gift for teaching, as you are making these invaluable information easy to understand and follow.
Thank you very much Martin. I was a bit concerned friday when you gave us a hint at this week's topic thinking... 'what? He already did 2 videos on tires and tpms'. Well, I'm glad to have been wrong. You gave use great heads up info. Thanks.
Thank you so much for this video. I am finally ready to buy 6 new tires for my 2001 class C. I have completely devoured this video. I've taken screenshots of everything , I have taken handwritten notes and I am now feeling confident about my new tire purchase and installation. I will be going to your amazon store for a lot of the stuff I will need except the tires. I can't say enough how greatful I am for your RVstreet video channel.... Keep up the good the work....... You are very much appreciated.
Laura...what can I say but thank you and you are appreciated too by taking the time to comment 😍 Everything you saw in this video I take to heart as I share and practice religiously. I'm always trying to inform and share to other RVer's on how to proceed forward, take the best action possible to keep their motorhome in the best running condition and be safe. I'm so glad you took notes and screen shots and took this video seriously. It will be to your benefit FOR SURE. 🔧
Wow, did I learn a lot. My wife and I are looking for 6 new RV tires now. We live in central California, on Monday we are starting our search for a tire store to buy and mount the new tires on new rims. We just bought 4 new 22.5 rims also, that we are going to have the new tires mounted on... Thank You....
I’m getting TOYO tires installed Monday. I had watched your video previously and I remembered that tool you were talking about for the lug caps. My front wheels are solid, but my back duallys had the dummy covers. Thanks for your informative video. I honestly didn’t know what that tool was for. It’s been in the kitchen drawer in the RV since 2016. Bought it new in 2016 37TB Thor Challenger
Very informative. Thanks. I've been on the fence about putting new tires on the class A since they are only 5 years old. I really love the TOYOs on our Class C and all of our vehicles. I'll start the hunt for the Winnie. I think the spare is the original 2003 tire.
Hi Tito 👍 Ya, for me...6 years is tops. I know others try to go longer but I'd be a nervous wreck running on that age of tires. If anything went wrong I'd never forgive myself 😭
On our last trip to south Carolina we noticed when walking around the campground how many trailers had blown out tires on their spare tire carriers. After seeing this my wife was very happy that we use a trailer TPMS when towing.
MARTIN, you and your channel are EXCELLENT, thank you so much for sharing. I feel lke you are excellent at your demonstration and explanation. I have a 2014 Winnebago sightseer 33c so I am so glade I found your channel as we both have very similar units and it makes so much sense. Great job sir. Thomas
Very good video. I use a tire shop in my home town that I have been doing business with for over 30 years. It pays to do business a local owned and operated business. You have less problems in the long run.
Not a lot of them out there at this time. As you were talking about in your other video. Supply problems. I’ll keep looking. Again thank you so much. I love watching your videos. We have a 2009 Monaco Monarch 33. It has 35,000 on it. Bought it 2 years ago. We love it.
Victor and I were planning to replace our tires in the future, but we had the same concerns as you with inflation and shortages. We went ahead and replaced ours a couple weeks ago on the Arctic Fox fifth wheel. Thank you for the tire replacement list - it helps me to know and understand what a good job is so I can be informed instead of taken advantage of.
Hey guys Vinnie & Joni from Florida! News on our RV. Supposedly we're going to get it back this week! 6 new tires and all the repairs are going to be finished this week. Plus a roof check. . . Now we'll get to use all the updates and upgrades we did before we went to the keys earlier this yr. The tires we went with are "E" rated Firestones. More than enough for our rig. One thing I'd like to add to your video. When I had my blowout. The closest tire place was a Firestone store. They had 2 tires that were what I wanted. BUT, they couldn't lift the RV. So, we had to run down to a semi truck shop. They could lift it, BUT, they weren't equipped to mount the tires. . . So, I had to buy the tires at Firestone, then, run down to the semi shop and have them take my rims off and run me and my tires and rims back to Firestone to have them mounted. Then run back to the semi truck shop and have them remount the wheels back on the RV. What a cluster F. . . Good thing is I will now know the history of these new tires. My tires were about 2 yrs out from being to old. But I had 1 bad tire. And just thought it was out of balance. I was wrong. I had a bad tire. Thank God the blowout didn't do any body damage. The blowout took out my black water tank and mud flap bracket and mud flap. It also took off the tailpipe. As well as damaging a plastic fender flare. No body damage. Slam jam took my tire out. Shortly after I hit a joint going through a large city. I noticed my RV developed a slight shake. Within seconds it shook hard a few times and blew up. It was very loud and luckily it was a inside rear. So it was easy to control. And I could still drive it. So that's my story. We can't wait to get it back. Great video again!! Take care talk to ya soon Vinnie & Joni J
Excellent information. I have a metal extension on my dual tires and I can't get a TMPS sensor to hold air on that extension. just on one side. I don't know why, I addressed it with the tire shop and they couldn't figure it out either so I just left one of the TPMS sensors off and I just manually check it.
Thanks for thank great video. I have a 1994 fleetwood Coronado. I think I’m going to go with the toyo tires. Going to run me 374.00 a tire 60.00 a piece , 45.00 for balance. Down here in South Carolina. PS I have to put a new fuel tank sending unit in and the tank is full. At least Tony’s garage and towing in Newport South Carolina. Super nice people down here. Thanks to Frank Easton for all the information of these company’s. He owns the storage space we rent from. Thanks again for the great information.
Great information Martin! I have a 2015 Vista with original tires at 46K I’m planning on replacing mine at about 50K.Good to hear Toyo tires are good quality. DOT dates - 👍
Great video Martin!! As a former mechanic I have to agree with everything you have on your list. And I appreciate the way you talked with your tire shop about doing the job a specific way. Kudos to you sir.
answered asks, "Why?", again. Unfortunately, I have a little too much time on my hands, my RV is in the shop getting Kingpin bushings replaced, should have it back this week. Of course, it is now too cold for me to do many of the great projects outlined in Martin's videos. I do still have things that I need to do on the inside so that should keep me busy for a bit. Thank you for all the great information I wish you had been around when I got my first motorhome., My 2018 Thor ACE came with the braided Stainless-steel extensions that attach to the center hub on the rear wheels. This arrangement certainly makes checking the tire inflation easy. When I do replace the tires, I should replace these extensions. The question in my mind is whether I should keep this same sort of extension when I do get new tires. I know some people simply do not like this type of extension. And, Years ago I have had an issue with one of these leaking that caused a tire failure. The problem was caused by overtightening the connection to the tire valve stem causing the o ring to be pushed out of place. That could also happen with a rigid extension as well.
Ya it could happen BUT it shouldn't with an experienced tire guy. Those extension should be hand tightened first and then about a 1/3 turn with a wrench. No more.
Thanks for the video. I have 2 Toyo's on the front of my MH and I like them. They are nearing the end of their life. On the rear I have 3 Goodyear and 1 Yokohama. I have learned that many tire stores do not handle 22.5" tires! So I have had problems finding tires to fit. But recently I found a tire shop near my house that stocks Toyos so I will probably go there when its time to buy tires.
First time I have watched your channel. I thought you did a good job on this video. I see you are down in the Conroe area. We have done that area for rally's several times mostly out at the Conroe KOA. You should come up when we have a rally. Lets go camping.
When is your rally? If you'd like, check out my PLAYLISTS page. I think you'll like those too. Some really good stuff in there. ruclips.net/user/RVstreetplaylists
@@RVstreet Lets try again. I tried to post a reply but now can't see it. Ok we are mostly through with rally's till next year. We just had one at Buckhorn Lake Resort out side of Kerrville. We are not full time but just before the Buckhorn Lake Resort rally we were on a road trip for 97 days. Mostly North east.
Unfortunately they already had that on earlier this year. Waiting on the new schedule to come out. I bet they go back there next year. Where do you plann on traveling next year?
@@WILDEBILL308 Have no idea right now what next years travel plans are. But we are usually in the Conroe area around early to mid Oct.to 1st part of Nov. before we head south for the winter.
Before I hit the road full time May 20th 2021, I had 7 new tires put on " that included my spare ". Have you replaced the spare? It will be outdated and dried out also. Thanks again for all you guys do for us out there with you. Always, Steve Robinson
Hello guys, thank you so much for sharing. I’m writing to you about the Amazon store. I don’t know if you know how many of your followers are from Canada but, unless is something difficult to do, like many others have done, please consider also having a link to a Amazon Canada so you can benefit from our purchases as well. It is not convenient to buy from Amazon USA from Canada even though they ship to Canada. It’s just not the same experience. Thank you for considering a link to Amazon Canada. Have a wonderful day!
This video hit me real close to home! Our 2016 Bago Adventurer 38Q is in need of 4 rear tires now. I've run the dickens out of the original Michelins, they have 60k miles on them- still not worn but definitely aging out. I'm getting really spooked about using the rig until I get new ones as I approach 7 yrs(2015 stamped from factory). I looked at Toyo 122's but there was about a 4 mile speed difference which is a bit much for me. I am going through much of the same issues you identify. Last yr I put 2 new Toyo 154's on the front and I love them. So I want to put 4 Toyo 154's on the rear. I have used Southern also and they do good work. My big issue is going to be extensions on the inner duallies. The rig came from the factory with flex extensions which I absolutely hate! They are difficult to check pressure and one is leaking. I want to go with a solid metal extension set up when I change. I have had very good experience with bead balance and have had no problems with the TPMs sensors. An excellent video. Thanks Martin. (PS notice that notorious sweet aroma LOL provided by Toyo??? We get a good laugh each time we go by the rig)
Ya know, I've heard some people mention about this so called "smell" of new Toyo tires. I've owned several sets on other vehicles and now 2 sets on our coach and have NEVER experienced this smell. EDIT: I forgot to address your speed difference comment. Ya mine is off 2mph but I just don't worry about it. Joanie is always monitoring my speed on the GPS and I'm watching my speedometer. If I want to run at 65mph I read 67 on the both the GPS and on my dash. As I decrease speed to say 35 or 40mph it drops to 1mph. To me it's just not a big deal. When I had my Ford Truck, I raised it up, put gig Toyo's and rims on it and there was about 6mph difference. That was a bit much. So I bought a-similar unit to 5 Star tune-and upload a speed fix according to the size tires I had. It cost me I think about $100 or so. But that ended up changing the code in my PCM and that became a problem when I had to take it to Ford for some recall stuff. Then I wish I hadn't done that. So not doing that ever again.
Martin, you should have asked for your old tires back. That, or ask them how much they will credit you for each one. I'll bet they got $200.00 a piece for them. Just saying.👍👍
Ya, I could of done that but then what am I going to do with 5yr. old tires when I'm in Willis, Tx for another week before I head south for the winter? I have no way to transport them, no way to store them, no way to move them to sell, or hassle with posting ads and it's just to big of a hassle IMO. I did ask them about a credit. Not only this time but back when I got my 4 rear Toyo's back when. They don't take them in on credit. And they're not going to resell them at $200 a piece when brand new ones only cost about $79 bucks or so more. MAYBE $50 a piece at this age on a good day. I know some tire companies do a credit thing sometimes, but not these guys. I think it's a sign of the times and these current conditions. They might sell them again to maybe a farmer, a local friend or somebody else but in reality...since they said they don't do that....I don't care. I've got better things to do with my time. thx Joe 👍
One thing you don’t know is the fact that the tire shop always overtighen the lug nuts, they use that monster air wrench and over due it. Then they check with the torque wrench which in most cases is useless because it’s too tight,very dangerous because now you stretch the lugs and increase the chance of breakage. Tip from all my days of trucking, heads up folks
INSTANT SUBSCRIBER! Love your style. From one anal to another, I can relate. However, I always feel like I'm asking "too much" out there whenever I do pretty much anything having to do with retail, medical, my doctor, you name it. Glad to see someone else out there who thinks and stresses the same way I do. And wow, some great info in this very first video I've seen from you. Looking forward to your future videos as well as seeing what you've already posted over the years. Thank you
I am sad to say that Martin has passed away but I will continue to keep the videos up,I am glad they are helpful to you. Martin loved helping people and he would be glad he has helped you.
Martin, do you use the same brand of tire for your spare? I have an all wheel drive VW Passat 4 motion so I can't use different sized tires and as such have a full size spare that I had to buy because one didn't come with the car when I purchased it used so I took the very best tire that was already on the car when I bought new tires and put it on the spare wheel. I'm going to be replacing it with the same type tire as all the rest when I get enough money but what sucks is the tires I bought are directional, Hankook Kinergy 4S2's.
@@RVstreet Thank you Martin and Joanie, I watched you latest cancer video last night and cried my eyes out. I'm so sorry! My prayers are with you both.
My concern with the tires on my 1981 c class. The seller (of the RV) said the tires are new and they look new, but the dates are about 10 years old. I asked a local tire shop about this and he said he would take a look at them for me.
He lied. No point in having a tire guy look at them. You're already on borrowed time. If the tire guy said he'd look at them, you need a different tire guy. Doesn't matter how they look. They're 10yrs. old and need to be replaced. PERIOD.
I put toyos on s 35 Damon last summer they were $2700 total I thought that was too much $ but tires were getting hard to find . I took off Michelins I drove better before . I did lower psi to 100 and 90 and they are better now . My neighbor was mad because I didn't keep the old ones ,he wanted them for the cheater axels on his dump truck .
Martin. Excellent video and a lot of great ideas. One thing about Michelin’s .... you can have side wall cracking, front tires that are not wearing well do to alignment issues, a rear inside tire flat and still go down the road without having a blowout. I’m curious if Michelin & Toyo were the same price what would you buy? Thanks guys, have a great week!
Thanks Abby 😍 Toyo's for sure because of what you mentioned. Lots of cases out there about side wall cracking on Mich's. I was going to mention that but decided not to because then the video would of became a tire review video and could start a comment war concerning those who own Mich's. This was not a tire review but simply my choice of tires and all what to look for and to do when installing new tires. 👍
The tires were eleven years old and beat up but still getting me down the road in 40 ft RV. Looking back it was dumb but I was young, dumb and thought I new it all. 😂 In closing I never had a blow out with that particular set or all the sets we’ve had RVing for 53 years something no one wants to experience. From that point on I was Michelin man for life. Today we take care of our tires and run them for seven years with no cracking, dry rot or any issues. There’s a few things you mentioned that we will incorporate on the next set. Thanks for that 👍🏼
It depends on the type of hubs you have, bolt pattern and the year and model of your RV. There are literally dozens of different configurations. Contact Centramatic sales and they'll get you the right ones for your RV. www.centramatic.com/
Thank you, great info, btw, what do you recommend to condition tires when you detail to keep the rubber fresh and looking good but also add UV protection to make them last.
Great information. Could you please give more information about the centramatic rings, and how they help with balancing. Or did I misunderstand what the rings do.
Centramatic rings keep your tires balanced all the time even as they wear over time. You buy them once. They automatically balance an unbalanced tire while underway and kick in at about 30-35mph. www.centramatic.com/balancers.rhtml?gclid=a42e0edc903b194633006f408762cbac&gclsrc=3p.ds
Just came across this older video. Well done. Quick question Martin. Any thought on keeping one those tires as a spare and carry below in the MH basement? I think my 2012 Winnebago has room, but I haven't yet done that. We hit the road to Texas this Fall. Thanks!
I don't carry a spare and most people who have big rigs don't either. To heavy, to big, takes up to much of your CCC and you're still going to need all the tools and jacks to change it. Those rims are torqued to 450' lbs. Just get a good road side service plan. I use Coachnet.
RV's usually do NOT need tire rotation simply b/c the tires will usually date out before that's needed. However, if you see uneven tire wear that's a sign that perhaps you're running the wrong PSI in your tires OR you have an alignment issue or worn out suspension parts....etc. In that case, you have to determine what parts need to be replaced, replace them, then do a full ALL TIRE alignment. Watching you tire wear every few thousand miles is a great way to monitor these items. But again, if your alignment is within spec, your running the correct PSI in your tires, you grease the front end once a year AND have centramatic rings you should never have to rotate tires during the life you have them.
@@RVstreet I am so very sorry for your loss! 💔 I feel like I lost my friend and mentor. I have watched so many of his videos. My deepest condolences to you and your loved ones.
Martin, I went to your Amazon Store and the rubber grommet was not in stock and they do not know if they ever will be available. Could you check with your store a find out what can be done as I need to replace my tires in the future? Thank you.
Ya as I have been saying for quite awhile now parts are becoming harder to find....BUT just book mark my store and check back weekly and as soon as they're available ORDER. They'll be back in stock. Just be patient. 👍
I did not know about buying stuff unrelated RV helps you. I buy a lot of bits and pieces, I def remember that in the future . Are you still using the EEZTire-TPMS6ATC model or do you have another one you use ?
Absolutely I still use it for both the coach and the toad. It's the best. Accurate, no interference from other devices, easy to read, I also installed a booster in the back of the coach. Wouldn't be without it. Video on this: ruclips.net/video/2kCXRbvtoYA/видео.html In my Amazon Store: www.amazon.com/shop/rvstreet/list/1FUC3YMUOK6RD
Martin, another well done video. F/U with regards to mileage ratings. Not being a full timer, what sort of mileage rating should be considered? Knowing replacements recommended at 5yrs, and say one only puts about 12K miles on over about 2.5yrs, what would be recommendation. Told wife other day that I had been thinking about looking for new tires as ours is about 4yrs in on DOT. We have the stock wheels on our 18 WB Vista 29VE, so the wheel covers are aluminum w/chrome finish, and the holes are those large oblong shape. Extenders that are on wheels, since we bought the MH used in 19, are those flexible reinforced stainless. The valve stems are solid though. Thank goodness, and knock on wood, they haven’t leaked yet. Our coach also has the Michelins, and suspect we’ll be looking for Toyo’s as well; used Toyo tires many years ago when I was a teenager riding motorcycles. I digressed🙂. Like to hear from you about mileage rating, as you know that too could be a factor for some of us who don’t get out as much as others. Thanks again.
Mileage rating doesn't count. Sort of. The more you run your tires the better it is for them. The constant heating and cooling of the tires while driving and sitting helps them stay healthy. Tires that aren't used often isn't good. That's why mileage doesn't really count. You could put 6K miles on it in 6 months and then it sits for 6 months. If you put low mileage every year, that usually means it sits a lot. Tires don't like that. Tires on a MH will almost always date out before they even begin to look like they need replacing. But there are so many other things that contribute to good tire health. Like proper balancing, front end alignment, proper PSI according to your weight, road conditions, keeping them out of the sun and so on. So IMO without knowing how you care for your tires, in your case with 12K miles in about 2.5yrs is below normal use for most MH's. Or at least full timing MH's. If you just use your MH periodically, then your tires are getting used even less than normal. So my recommendation would be-with all other things I mentioned above being in good working order-you should be able to go 5 probably 6 years on those tires then change them out. I know some folks go longer than that but I would not. Better to be safe then sorry.
@@RVstreet Thanks Martin. I use tire covers to protect from UV. I do need to do as you suggested in another video and drive coach every couple of weeks or so to help avoid flat spotting, and cracking. The thing I was trying to get across, was assuming there’s a significant disparity between say a 35K and 65K mile tire, wouldn’t it be prudent to consider the lower mileage tires for folks that don’t put a lot of miles on coach each year? Assume one isn’t giving up quality. That was question I was trying to pose. Thanks again.
Hi Martin, where did you purchase your (conical) tapered seat lug nuts? I called Dorman Mfg. and they only recommend the factory 2 piece lug nuts stating that the rim would also have to be machined to match the lug nut taper. Mark
When I replaced my rear dually's in June of 2017, I had Southern Tire purchase and install self centering lug nuts on all 4 rims for a total of 12 @ $10.ea., so I don't know where they got them nor the Mfg. There was no machining the rims. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Hi Martin, I am under the impression that rv's need ten ply tires from what you said it sounds like 6 ply. What is the difference in tires plyes and is there a difference between class A and class C rv tires? I get a lot of misinformation and I trust yours which is why I'm asking
My tires are 16ply not 6. There's not much difference on Class A's and Class C's other than Class C's don't carry as much weight and they usually have 19.5" rims therefore a smaller tire. Class A's like mine are 22.5" rims therefore bigger tires. Class A DP's have even larger rims and tires and carry more weight. I have a friend that just replaced his tires on his Class A, DP and those tires were nearly $8K.
Thanks Martin for another very informative video. I'd never heard of Centromatic rings before, where do I get them? Will any tire shop install them for me. I will be repalcing my six factory installed Michelin tires this spring as they will be aged out. I'm planning on having the shop install Toyo 122 tires. Thanks again for your videos.
I'm so sorry Joni for your loss. I wasn't aware that Martin had passed. I'm so sorry. I will continue to watch his information filled posts and shop at your Amazon store to support you. I wish you the very best in the future. Take care
I do not like my wheel covers, similar to yours but all lnuts are dummies (came with SUNSEEKER Class C). I don’t put them on because tpms valves do not extend enough to easily check tire pressure which always reads differently then manual check. Guess that’s in another video lol. Thanks for putting this out there, good info.
Re the centramatics -wouldn’t you do road force balance OR centramatics -but why both? wouldn’t the centramatics try to counter the balance weights? Thx. Love your videos. I buy through your store!
Yes you can do either or. In the video I explained I just like to do both b/c I like to start at Zero as much as possible. But you don't have to. Just a personal preference of mine. And no, the centramatics don not counter the balanced weights. And...thank you so much Trav for supporting us using my Amazon Store. You fans are the best 🙏
Martin, thank you for all your work on this channel. I just asked the Centramatic person on the phone about using their balancer on my Airstream Atlas motor coach with the 16x5.5 Alcoa wheels. He said that you can't use them because there is not enough clearance for the calipers. I said that I had seen someone (you) place the balancer between the two wheels in the dualies and he said he hasn't heard of doing that. Am I confused, or is this guy (from the company) misinformed. I also wondered how you get the stem across the balancer, since there aren't any extra slots in the balancer, just the 6 holes for the lugs.. Is the diameter of the balancer smaller than where the stems come out of the tires? Right now I am confused. Do you have any thoughts on this?
Either you asked wrong, maybe it's b/c of the size of your rims you can't put them in between the dually's OR I think he totally misunderstood what you're wanting to do. The balancers ALWAYS go in between the dually's.This is right from their website in the FAQ section: Simply remove the wheel, use the bolt holes as guides and reinstall the wheel. Steer axle balancers mount between the hub and wheel, while balancers for the duals mount between the dual wheels. Ask for Ricky Jordan. He's been their for years and knows what's going on. This is not rocket science. They just need to find the right ones for your rig b/c there are A LOT of different configurations. As far as the extension stem across the balancer, you can clearly see here ruclips.net/video/zjVeal3qzb8/видео.html ....at 11:01 in the time line how the stem extension comes from the inside dually, thru the balancer, then out the outside rim. Where did you come up with there's only 6 holes in the balancer for lugs? Do you not see those two large oblong areas in the balancers where the stems are: ruclips.net/video/zjVeal3qzb8/видео.html 19:10 in the time line? Hopefully this will help
My Thor citation came with metal extensions. Which rubbled against the simulators until they cut thru on the inside rear tire extensions and of course went flat. Tire guy said 90 percent of all rvs that had flat tires were caused by the same problem I had. So I removed them. Problem solved. I plan on watching all of your videos. I live in Willis so I will be looking for your motorhome.
The extensions were obviously not installed correctly so they'd be centered in the holes. A rubber grommet like I showed to hold the extension firmly would of also prevented this. thx Stan 👍
@@RVstreet I do respect your opinion and advice. The inside extensions that were on the wheels were long and made of I believe brass and therefore kind of soft. I think they wiggled as the wheel rotated causing the rubbing and cutting. The simulators are thin sharp and cut right into the stems. I don't have the rubber grommets that may have prevented the problem. The cut stem as you concluded was touching the simulator. Another stem was considerably worn but was not touching the simulator while It was stationary. I am not real impressed the quality of the simulators. They may have rotated on the wheel. Anyhow I think It would be a good Idea to let your readers know that this is a potential problem.
I found the rubber valve stem stabilizers on amazon. I agree that should do the trick. I just wish I knew about them before I threw away the extensions. Thanks for the information.
@@stanglenn1332 I hope you found the right grommets. The ones I showed in the video are tapered at an angle. Other ones that are available don't fit right. Trust me. I bought 2 different sets. Finding the right ones was very difficult but I finally found them. The ones that fit correctly are in my Amazon Store if you have the same rims as I do. www.amazon.com/shop/rvstreet
@@RVstreet Thanks. The Mercedes wheels have 1.5" holes and the simulators have 1" holes that don't line up. I can buy the 1.5" stabilizers ($35.00 per pair) that would fit the wheel but it would still leave at least half of the length of the extension going through the 1" hole unsupported. It might work and it might not. I am looking for 1" stabilizers. I may just go with the air pressure monitors and crawl under the chassis when the tires need air. I have read reviews that stated that the system was inaccurate. Are you satisfied with yours? Thanks for sharing your experience with us newbies.
Hey Martin, I came back to this video to watch again, and make sure I was buying the right tire brand, and also to ask a question I don't think I ever heard you address, and that is, after washing my tire, and I want the luster back ? What do you recommend, some say poteolem based, others say water based, I even had some say to use pledge! Could you please steer me in the right direction... Thanks Lonny
Martin always said never use anything petroleum based on the tires. I'm sorry I don't have a better answer for you but Martin passed away a few months ago and he was the answer man. I'm trying my best but not very good at answers.
@@RVstreet My CONDOLENCES, I'M SO SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 HE WILL BE MISSED IN MY HOUSEHOLD, WE ALL LEARNED A GREAT DEAL FROM HIM. HE MADE US THE CAMPERS WE ARE TODAY. HIS LEGACY WILL LIVE ON, WE REWATCH HIS VIDEOS ALL THE TIME, TO REFRESH WHAT HE TAUGHT US !!!!
There's a lot of info on the web about the difference between the two. Even though I have Centramatic Balancing Rings, as I said in the video...I want to start off as perfect as possible and spend the extra few bucks for Road Force Balancing. Not all will want to or be willing to do as I do...but that's ok. Keeping all of my front end suspension, bearings, king pins and tires in perfect form and condition is more important to me than saving a few bucks. thx for your question Mehmet 🔧
Marvin. I currently have Michelin 235/80/22.5. Xrv. The Toyo M122 fit the same rim you had before. I’d like to try these in place of the Michelins I have. You stated you liked the tire. Is the ride pretty good compared to the Michelins you did have.
Yes they ride even better and more rubber on the road cause they're a bit wider. That's why I bought 6 of them. I love these new tires all the way around.
Hey Martin sorry to bother you but what kind of tire would you suggest for my class C Winnebago spirit RV 225/R75/16 I look at Toyo but not sure. Hope everything is getting better with you me and my family are preying for you 🤗🙏🙏❣️❣️ Thanks for everything you do for us In rving
@@RVstreet I'm want to get these tires but I thought you might have a suggestion on a class C. I have hankook tires now. I'm still checking around. Hope everything is going well 🙏🤗❤️🩹 with you and Jony. Look up alkalize or die book . This is a good book because it tells you how to stay alkalize. Because Cancer can't grow in a alkalize body just saying. Me and my family are preying for you 🤗🙏🙏 Martin. Go to RUclips and watch Grase for purpose thanks for getting back to me 🤗🙏
Martin, to quote a saying my Dad used often... "You're as handy as a pocket on a shirt"!
So knowledgeable and easily understandable, thank you for ALL your helpful tips!!
Martin feels like the RV dad I never had. I swear, I learn more every day from this man than I ever learned from my own father. Lol.
Sooooo happy to see someone who understands the importance of details!! One more thing... $10 per guy plus coffee and donuts BEFORE they begin the job is not only a nice gesture, it usually means a better job.
Wow! As a noob, I can't thank you enough for the quality of this video, Bravo!
R V street is without question the best with respect to presentation and intelligent information..I never ceases to learn from you guys.. keep up the good work
bloody hell, Ive learnt so much about tyres that i never knew existed, and i was in the recovery business for a couple of years. every day is a school day. FANTASTIC
Martin, you think like I do. Preventive, preventive, preventive. Love it! Thank you!
Thanks for all the info, picking up our new 2023 Forest River XLR Boost 21XLRX tomorrow. I am a retired truck driver of close to 25 years and the #1 cost is fuel and the 2nd biggest expense are tires. I owned several trucks in my career and the biggest thing I learned was to get yourself into a routine of checking your rig daily. Check your tires and your oil every time you get fuel and when you do stop for any reason always do a walk around, and unlike driving a big rig where you are on a schedule my RV days will be at a much slower pace. Thanks again.
A little more detail…
The rubber grommets I showed to hold the extensions firmly in place are hard to find. BUT....I finally have them in my Amazon Store in the "Tire, Engine & Chassis Care" category. And I highly recommend installing Dill Stainless Stems and Extensions that you can get from the tire shop. They'll size them to the exact length you need.
These grommets in my store are a little pricey but well worth the money. They also come with a pair of extensions that will probably be the wrong size for your needs. Just don’t use them. Simply press these tough rubber grommets into the holes on your outside dually’s rim, the extension goes through them, then attach your TPMS sensor. Don’t put any type of lubricant on the grommets before you press them in. You want them to press in tight. They’ll keep your extensions & TPMS sensor solid.
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Our front Michelin tires were approaching to dating out with age and our rear Toyo tires were already 4.5yrs. old and getting older every day. Even though I could have gotten more life out of the tires, being a full timer, I need good tires that I can rely on going forward in the future. I depend on my tires every day. I wanted to change them out now while I still could. With inflation now on rise and supply chains already stressed, I didn’t want to wait another 6 months to a year and then deal with getting new tires, even if I could find them. I’m already seeing and hearing reports from many RVer’s around the country, that many brands of tires are getting hard to find, back ordered for weeks/months and that’s if you can find them at all. And from what I’m seeing, it’s only going to get worse and prices going higher. So being the proactive guy that I am, I acted now.
With my past experience with Toyo tires, I decided to go with M122's all the way around. They are a wider tire than the Michelin 235 x 80R22.5 XRV tires that comes standard on many Class A motorhomes or even the M154 Toyo that some Class A owners go with for a Michelin replacement. Even though the M154 are a little wider, I like the M122 because they’re even a little more wider. I like more meat on the road. And even though there are wider than the above two tires, they still allow enough clearance between the dually’s to keep the tires cool. You can install to thick of tires on the dually’s that will prevent proper cooling, but these Toyo’s are not one of them. In the past 4.5 years with my rear Toyo’s, my TPMS always showed those tires running right around 105º or so, and that’s in the summer with 90psi. They’re a terrific tire IMO.
It took Southern Tire 3wks. to get these tires and they also installed Dill Stainless Stems and Extensions.
If you're not going to Road Force Balance your tires OR run Centramatic Rings then the standard position for your stems on the rear dually's is 180º opposite of each other. Not side-by-side like I did mine.
There is no one part number for Centramatic Rings. The ones you need will depend on the type of hubs you have, bolt pattern and the year and model of your RV. There are literally dozens of different configurations. Contact Centramatic sales and they'll get you the right ones for your RV.
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Thank you Martin. I appreciate all the fine details you provide in your videos. Many times it's a lack of details that can make a project much more difficult. Your easy step by step videos along with honest and detailed information makes your videos so good!!
Nice video and explanation. Had a Goodyear 670 blow out on the rear inner recently. TIre was only 4.5 years old. RV is garage kept, tires taken care of, pressure set correctly. Get Toyo or Michelin, I went with the Toyo M143. Stay far far away from Goodyear 670 or now the 647. We were on a smooth road, didn't hit anything. The temp outside was low 80s and the sidewall just decided to split.
Great video! I bought Toyo M154 2 yrs ago, they are great! I've read nothing but good stuff about them.
When first shopping, I priced them online to be delivered but not one place would guarantee the date to be newer than 2 years! Unacceptable!
So I called around local and found a tire shop that called their warehouse to get me dates that put the tires at 5-6 months old and they weren't much more money than online. Like you, I'd rather pay a little more and know what I'm getting.
I do wish I bought those balancing plates (I will next time), not sure that these little beads do anything at all but I don't have shaking issues. If I need to replace one tire the balancing beads in the old tire are tossed away with the tire, it was my first time buying tires for my RV so I'll chalk it up to live and learn.
Love the Toyo ride and price. So much cheaper than Michelin.
I will watch every single video. Because I know every question I have will be answered. Thank you, ❤🎉🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉Martin. Your tire video probably saved a lot of lives.
Martin thanks for the new tire video. Discovered your channel about 18 months ago because of your MH. I also have a Vista 35F, though a 2013 bought used in 2017. It was time to re-tire my coach, so changed the Michelins to 6 new M154 Toyos just last Monday. Left on our winter trip Thursday, and I'm very satisfied with the handling very well. Thanks so much for this and all of your videos, I can relate so well as we've the same model!
Hello to both of you. it is amazing to me how much I learned and now understand from watching your instructional videos. Thank you so much for making these videos. You have a gift for teaching, as you are making these invaluable information easy to understand and follow.
Thanks Martin. Full of great information
Thank you very much Martin. I was a bit concerned friday when you gave us a hint at this week's topic thinking... 'what? He already did 2 videos on tires and tpms'. Well, I'm glad to have been wrong. You gave use great heads up info. Thanks.
Thank you so much for this video. I am finally ready to buy 6 new tires for my 2001 class C. I have completely devoured this video. I've taken screenshots of everything , I have taken handwritten notes and I am now feeling confident about my new tire purchase and installation. I will be going to your amazon store for a lot of the stuff I will need except the tires. I can't say enough how greatful I am for your RVstreet video channel.... Keep up the good the work....... You are very much appreciated.
Laura...what can I say but thank you and you are appreciated too by taking the time to comment 😍
Everything you saw in this video I take to heart as I share and practice religiously. I'm always trying to inform and share to other RVer's on how to proceed forward, take the best action possible to keep their motorhome in the best running condition and be safe. I'm so glad you took notes and screen shots and took this video seriously. It will be to your benefit FOR SURE. 🔧
Some excellent advice. Thanks Martin.
I loved the Toyo Ties I had on my Datson Pickup, I made into a camper, years ago. You brought back some nice memories! Gail- from Michigan
Wow, did I learn a lot. My wife and I are looking for 6 new RV tires now. We live in central California, on Monday we are starting our search for a tire store to buy and mount the new tires on new rims. We just bought 4 new 22.5 rims also, that we are going to have the new tires mounted on... Thank You....
Martin, newbie here to rv life, love your down to earth, common sense approach!
I’m getting TOYO tires installed Monday. I had watched your video previously and I remembered that tool you were talking about for the lug caps. My front wheels are solid, but my back duallys had the dummy covers.
Thanks for your informative video. I honestly didn’t know what that tool was for. It’s been in the kitchen drawer in the RV since 2016.
Bought it new in 2016
37TB Thor Challenger
Glad I could help
Very informative. Thanks. I've been on the fence about putting new tires on the class A since they are only 5 years old. I really love the TOYOs on our Class C and all of our vehicles. I'll start the hunt for the Winnie. I think the spare is the original 2003 tire.
Hi Tito 👍
Ya, for me...6 years is tops. I know others try to go longer but I'd be a nervous wreck running on that age of tires. If anything went wrong I'd never forgive myself 😭
On our last trip to south Carolina we noticed when walking around the campground how many trailers had blown out tires on their spare tire carriers. After seeing this my wife was very happy that we use a trailer TPMS when towing.
MARTIN, you and your channel are EXCELLENT, thank you so much for sharing. I feel lke you are excellent at your demonstration and explanation. I have a 2014 Winnebago sightseer 33c so I am so glade I found your channel as we both have very similar units and it makes so much sense. Great job sir. Thomas
Very good video. I use a tire shop in my home town that I have been doing business with for over 30 years. It pays to do business a local owned and operated business. You have less problems in the long run.
Great video.... fantastic advice. Love following you. Happy travels!
Loved the video you two! Pilar and I are still huge fans of your channel. Thanks for being such wonderful people.
Thanks Martin for your advice. The grommets are a great idea
Thank you Martin. For the response.
Not a lot of them out there at this time. As you were talking about in your other video. Supply problems. I’ll keep looking. Again thank you so much. I love watching your videos. We have a 2009 Monaco Monarch 33. It has 35,000 on it. Bought it 2 years ago. We love it.
For added protection and a little cold, get a foot of 3/8 or 1/2 inch fuel hose, cut to fit and sliced in half and zip tie
Victor and I were planning to replace our tires in the future, but we had the same concerns as you with inflation and shortages. We went ahead and replaced ours a couple weeks ago on the Arctic Fox fifth wheel. Thank you for the tire replacement list - it helps me to know and understand what a good job is so I can be informed instead of taken advantage of.
Hey guys Vinnie & Joni from Florida! News on our RV. Supposedly we're going to get it back this week! 6 new tires and all the repairs are going to be finished this week. Plus a roof check. . . Now we'll get to use all the updates and upgrades we did before we went to the keys earlier this yr.
The tires we went with are "E" rated Firestones. More than enough for our rig.
One thing I'd like to add to your video. When I had my blowout. The closest tire place was a Firestone store. They had 2 tires that were what I wanted. BUT, they couldn't lift the RV. So, we had to run down to a semi truck shop. They could lift it, BUT, they weren't equipped to mount the tires. . . So, I had to buy the tires at Firestone, then, run down to the semi shop and have them take my rims off and run me and my tires and rims back to Firestone to have them mounted. Then run back to the semi truck shop and have them remount the wheels back on the RV. What a cluster F. . . Good thing is I will now know the history of these new tires. My tires were about 2 yrs out from being to old. But I had 1 bad tire. And just thought it was out of balance. I was wrong. I had a bad tire.
Thank God the blowout didn't do any body damage. The blowout took out my black water tank and mud flap bracket and mud flap. It also took off the tailpipe. As well as damaging a plastic fender flare. No body damage.
Slam jam took my tire out. Shortly after I hit a joint going through a large city. I noticed my RV developed a slight shake. Within seconds it shook hard a few times and blew up. It was very loud and luckily it was a inside rear. So it was easy to control. And I could still drive it.
So that's my story. We can't wait to get it back. Great video again!! Take care talk to ya soon
Vinnie & Joni J
What a cluster F. . . INDEED. What a hassle.
Ya, I'll bet your excited to get back on the road.
Yes sir we are.
Thanks Brotha you are a great teacher🙏 Just bought a one owner 2016 THORE A.C.E. and the tires are original tires and now I’m gonna buy NEW tires🏆
SMART. Hope you can find your size with all this stuff going on these days.
Informative and helpful. Wishing you both a Happy Thanksgiving.
Yes! Very informative video. Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!👍
Excellent information. I have a metal extension on my dual tires and I can't get a TMPS sensor to hold air on that extension. just on one side. I don't know why, I addressed it with the tire shop and they couldn't figure it out either so I just left one of the TPMS sensors off and I just manually check it.
Thanks for thank great video. I have a 1994 fleetwood Coronado. I think I’m going to go with the toyo tires. Going to run me 374.00 a tire 60.00 a piece , 45.00 for balance. Down here in South Carolina. PS I have to put a new fuel tank sending unit in and the tank is full. At least Tony’s garage and towing in Newport South Carolina. Super nice people down here. Thanks to Frank Easton for all the information of these company’s. He owns the storage space we rent from. Thanks again for the great information.
Great information Martin! I have a 2015 Vista with original tires at 46K I’m planning on replacing mine at about 50K.Good to hear Toyo tires are good quality. DOT dates - 👍
Great video Martin Thank you!
Great video. Very informative. Thanks for all your efforts
Martin this video is very helpful. thanks!
Glad to hear it!
Great video Martin!! As a former mechanic I have to agree with everything you have on your list. And I appreciate the way you talked with your tire shop about doing the job a specific way. Kudos to you sir.
Good Video again, I like the Toyo brand.
Thanks for all the excellent info my friend I'm a newbie to all this I just me my first motor home today.
Welcome aboard and safe travels to you
Thanks for the info. Blessings always
answered asks, "Why?", again. Unfortunately, I have a little too much time on my hands, my RV is in the shop getting Kingpin bushings replaced, should have it back this week. Of course, it is now too cold for me to do many of the great projects outlined in Martin's videos. I do still have things that I need to do on the inside so that should keep me busy for a bit. Thank you for all the great information I wish you had been around when I got my first motorhome.,
My 2018 Thor ACE came with the braided Stainless-steel extensions that attach to the center hub on the rear wheels. This arrangement certainly makes checking the tire inflation easy. When I do replace the tires, I should replace these extensions. The question in my mind is whether I should keep this same sort of extension when I do get new tires.
I know some people simply do not like this type of extension. And, Years ago I have had an issue with one of these leaking that caused a tire failure. The problem was caused by overtightening the connection to the tire valve stem causing the o ring to be pushed out of place. That could also happen with a rigid extension as well.
Ya it could happen BUT it shouldn't with an experienced tire guy. Those extension should be hand tightened first and then about a 1/3 turn with a wrench. No more.
thanks for sharing your experience glad you guys came out safe..and thnks for great tips
Thanks for the video. I have 2 Toyo's on the front of my MH and I like them. They are nearing the end of their life. On the rear I have 3 Goodyear and 1 Yokohama. I have learned that many tire stores do not handle 22.5" tires! So I have had problems finding tires to fit. But recently I found a tire shop near my house that stocks Toyos so I will probably go there when its time to buy tires.
Great video!
First time I have watched your channel. I thought you did a good job on this video. I see you are down in the Conroe area. We have done that area for rally's several times mostly out at the Conroe KOA. You should come up when we have a rally. Lets go camping.
When is your rally?
If you'd like, check out my PLAYLISTS page. I think you'll like those too. Some really good stuff in there.
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@@RVstreet Lets try again. I tried to post a reply but now can't see it. Ok we are mostly through with rally's till next year. We just had one at Buckhorn Lake Resort out side of Kerrville. We are not full time but just before the Buckhorn Lake Resort rally we were on a road trip for 97 days. Mostly North east.
@@WILDEBILL308 I was talking about the rally that you have at the KOA @ Conroe that you mentioned. When do have that?
Unfortunately they already had that on earlier this year. Waiting on the new schedule to come out. I bet they go back there next year. Where do you plann on traveling next year?
@@WILDEBILL308 Have no idea right now what next years travel plans are. But we are usually in the Conroe area around early to mid Oct.to 1st part of Nov. before we head south for the winter.
Hi. Great video. I think I would have shown where to find the Dot date.
Wish You Well
Good call!
Great information ! From an old road force Hunter man
Excellent as usual!!
We live in Lake Wales Florida. If your ever in the area let us know. Love to meet you.
Before I hit the road full time May 20th 2021, I had 7 new tires put on " that included my spare ". Have you replaced the spare? It will be outdated and dried out also. Thanks again for all you guys do for us out there with you. Always, Steve Robinson
thx Steve. I don't carry a spare.
Hi Martin and Joanie Great video I'm curious about your headband maybe be you said but I missed it
Hello guys, thank you so much for sharing. I’m writing to you about the Amazon store. I don’t know if you know how many of your followers are from Canada but, unless is something difficult to do, like many others have done, please consider also having a link to a Amazon Canada so you can benefit from our purchases as well. It is not convenient to buy from Amazon USA from Canada even though they ship to Canada. It’s just not the same experience. Thank you for considering a link to Amazon Canada. Have a wonderful day!
I'm not sure I can do that but I'll contact Amazon sometime in the future and ask them if that's an option for me.
Admire your mojo and way of thinking
Wealth of info….thanks
This video hit me real close to home! Our 2016 Bago Adventurer 38Q is in need of 4 rear tires now. I've run the dickens out of the original Michelins, they have 60k miles on them- still not worn but definitely aging out. I'm getting really spooked about using the rig until I get new ones as I approach 7 yrs(2015 stamped from factory). I looked at Toyo 122's but there was about a 4 mile speed difference which is a bit much for me. I am going through much of the same issues you identify. Last yr I put 2 new Toyo 154's on the front and I love them. So I want to put 4 Toyo 154's on the rear. I have used Southern also and they do good work. My big issue is going to be extensions on the inner duallies. The rig came from the factory with flex extensions which I absolutely hate! They are difficult to check pressure and one is leaking. I want to go with a solid metal extension set up when I change. I have had very good experience with bead balance and have had no problems with the TPMs sensors. An excellent video. Thanks Martin. (PS notice that notorious sweet aroma LOL provided by Toyo??? We get a good laugh each time we go by the rig)
Ya know, I've heard some people mention about this so called "smell" of new Toyo tires. I've owned several sets on other vehicles and now 2 sets on our coach and have NEVER experienced this smell.
EDIT: I forgot to address your speed difference comment. Ya mine is off 2mph but I just don't worry about it. Joanie is always monitoring my speed on the GPS and I'm watching my speedometer. If I want to run at 65mph I read 67 on the both the GPS and on my dash. As I decrease speed to say 35 or 40mph it drops to 1mph. To me it's just not a big deal.
When I had my Ford Truck, I raised it up, put gig Toyo's and rims on it and there was about 6mph difference. That was a bit much. So I bought a-similar unit to 5 Star tune-and upload a speed fix according to the size tires I had. It cost me I think about $100 or so. But that ended up changing the code in my PCM and that became a problem when I had to take it to Ford for some recall stuff. Then I wish I hadn't done that. So not doing that ever again.
Martin, you should have asked for your old tires back. That, or ask them how much they will credit you for each one.
I'll bet they got $200.00 a piece for them. Just saying.👍👍
Ya, I could of done that but then what am I going to do with 5yr. old tires when I'm in Willis, Tx for another week before I head south for the winter? I have no way to transport them, no way to store them, no way to move them to sell, or hassle with posting ads and it's just to big of a hassle IMO. I did ask them about a credit. Not only this time but back when I got my 4 rear Toyo's back when. They don't take them in on credit. And they're not going to resell them at $200 a piece when brand new ones only cost about $79 bucks or so more. MAYBE $50 a piece at this age on a good day. I know some tire companies do a credit thing sometimes, but not these guys. I think it's a sign of the times and these current conditions. They might sell them again to maybe a farmer, a local friend or somebody else but in reality...since they said they don't do that....I don't care. I've got better things to do with my time.
thx Joe 👍
I have been to your Amazon store and have not found those rubber groumets for the extenstion of the rear tandom wheels, can you provide more infor
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One thing you don’t know is the fact that the tire shop always overtighen the lug nuts, they use that monster air wrench and over due it.
Then they check with the torque wrench which in most cases is useless because it’s too tight,very dangerous because now you stretch the lugs and increase the chance of breakage.
Tip from all my days of trucking, heads up folks
INSTANT SUBSCRIBER! Love your style. From one anal to another, I can relate. However, I always feel like I'm asking "too much" out there whenever I do pretty much anything having to do with retail, medical, my doctor, you name it. Glad to see someone else out there who thinks and stresses the same way I do. And wow, some great info in this very first video I've seen from you. Looking forward to your future videos as well as seeing what you've already posted over the years. Thank you
I am sad to say that Martin has passed away but I will continue to keep the videos up,I am glad they are helpful to you. Martin loved helping people and he would be glad he has helped you.
@@RVstreet Now this makes me very sad but thank you for responding.
Good information! Thanks
Martin, do you use the same brand of tire for your spare? I have an all wheel drive VW Passat 4 motion so I can't use different sized tires and as such have a full size spare that I had to buy because one didn't come with the car when I purchased it used so I took the very best tire that was already on the car when I bought new tires and put it on the spare wheel. I'm going to be replacing it with the same type tire as all the rest when I get enough money but what sucks is the tires I bought are directional, Hankook Kinergy 4S2's.
For the car spare it doesn't have to be the same brand but should be the same size.
@@RVstreet Thank you Martin and Joanie, I watched you latest cancer video last night and cried my eyes out. I'm so sorry! My prayers are with you both.
My concern with the tires on my 1981 c class. The seller (of the RV) said the tires are new and they look new, but the dates are about 10 years old. I asked a local tire shop about this and he said he would take a look at them for me.
He lied. No point in having a tire guy look at them. You're already on borrowed time. If the tire guy said he'd look at them, you need a different tire guy. Doesn't matter how they look. They're 10yrs. old and need to be replaced. PERIOD.
I put toyos on s 35 Damon last summer they were $2700 total I thought that was too much $ but tires were getting hard to find . I took off Michelins I drove better before . I did lower psi to 100 and 90 and they are better now . My neighbor was mad because I didn't keep the old ones ,he wanted them for the cheater axels on his dump truck .
Great video.
Martin. Excellent video and a lot of great ideas. One thing about Michelin’s .... you can have side wall cracking, front tires that are not wearing well do to alignment issues, a rear inside tire flat and still go down the road without having a blowout. I’m curious if Michelin & Toyo were the same price what would you buy? Thanks guys, have a great week!
Thanks Abby 😍
Toyo's for sure because of what you mentioned. Lots of cases out there about side wall cracking on Mich's. I was going to mention that but decided not to because then the video would of became a tire review video and could start a comment war concerning those who own Mich's. This was not a tire review but simply my choice of tires and all what to look for and to do when installing new tires. 👍
The tires were eleven years old and beat up but still getting me down the road in 40 ft RV. Looking back it was dumb but I was young, dumb and thought I new it all. 😂 In closing I never had a blow out with that particular set or all the sets we’ve had RVing for 53 years something no one wants to experience. From that point on I was Michelin man for life.
Today we take care of our tires and run them for seven years with no cracking, dry rot or any issues. There’s a few things you mentioned that we will incorporate on the next set. Thanks for that 👍🏼
What are the part numbers for the centromatic front and back
It depends on the type of hubs you have, bolt pattern and the year and model of your RV. There are literally dozens of different configurations. Contact Centramatic sales and they'll get you the right ones for your RV.
www.centramatic.com/
@@RVstreet thanks for your help
Thank you, great info, btw, what do you recommend to condition tires when you detail to keep the rubber fresh and looking good but also add UV protection to make them last.
There is a product called 303 protectant, it will give your tires a nice shine and protect them from UV rays.
Great information. Could you please give more information about the centramatic rings, and how they help with balancing. Or did I misunderstand what the rings do.
Centramatic rings keep your tires balanced all the time even as they wear over time. You buy them once. They automatically balance an unbalanced tire while underway and kick in at about 30-35mph.
www.centramatic.com/balancers.rhtml?gclid=a42e0edc903b194633006f408762cbac&gclsrc=3p.ds
Just came across this older video. Well done. Quick question Martin. Any thought on keeping one those tires as a spare and carry below in the MH basement? I think my 2012 Winnebago has room, but I haven't yet done that. We hit the road to Texas this Fall. Thanks!
I don't carry a spare and most people who have big rigs don't either. To heavy, to big, takes up to much of your CCC and you're still going to need all the tools and jacks to change it. Those rims are torqued to 450' lbs. Just get a good road side service plan. I use Coachnet.
Thx dude
Valve stems are supposed to be oriented 180 degrees apart on dually tires, otherwise the tire will be out of balance.
Hello Martin 👋
RV tire rotation too?
Someone said we needed.
RV's usually do NOT need tire rotation simply b/c the tires will usually date out before that's needed. However, if you see uneven tire wear that's a sign that perhaps you're running the wrong PSI in your tires OR you have an alignment issue or worn out suspension parts....etc. In that case, you have to determine what parts need to be replaced, replace them, then do a full ALL TIRE alignment. Watching you tire wear every few thousand miles is a great way to monitor these items. But again, if your alignment is within spec, your running the correct PSI in your tires, you grease the front end once a year AND have centramatic rings you should never have to rotate tires during the life you have them.
Hello Martin thank you so much.
I am so grateful that you learned a lot about Rv.
Hi Martin, that T-handle wrench you used to remove your chrome lug caps... What is it called? Where can I find one?
I'm sad to say that Martin has passed away and I don't have the answer to your question.. Sorry
@@RVstreet I am so very sorry for your loss! 💔 I feel like I lost my friend and mentor. I have watched so many of his videos. My deepest condolences to you and your loved ones.
Martin, I went to your Amazon Store and the rubber grommet was not in stock and they do not know if they ever will be available. Could you check with your store a find out what can be done as I need to replace my tires in the future? Thank you.
Ya as I have been saying for quite awhile now parts are becoming harder to find....BUT just book mark my store and check back weekly and as soon as they're available ORDER. They'll be back in stock. Just be patient. 👍
I did not know about buying stuff unrelated RV helps you. I buy a lot of bits and pieces, I def remember that in the future . Are you still using the EEZTire-TPMS6ATC model or do you have another one you use ?
Absolutely I still use it for both the coach and the toad. It's the best. Accurate, no interference from other devices, easy to read, I also installed a booster in the back of the coach. Wouldn't be without it.
Video on this: ruclips.net/video/2kCXRbvtoYA/видео.html
In my Amazon Store: www.amazon.com/shop/rvstreet/list/1FUC3YMUOK6RD
I paid more than that for 5 tires for a 32 ft 5th wheel in Ca a month ago.
Martin, another well done video. F/U with regards to mileage ratings. Not being a full timer, what sort of mileage rating should be considered? Knowing replacements recommended at 5yrs, and say one only puts about 12K miles on over about 2.5yrs, what would be recommendation. Told wife other day that I had been thinking about looking for new tires as ours is about 4yrs in on DOT. We have the stock wheels on our 18 WB Vista 29VE, so the wheel covers are aluminum w/chrome finish, and the holes are those large oblong shape. Extenders that are on wheels, since we bought the MH used in 19, are those flexible reinforced stainless. The valve stems are solid though. Thank goodness, and knock on wood, they haven’t leaked yet. Our coach also has the Michelins, and suspect we’ll be looking for Toyo’s as well; used Toyo tires many years ago when I was a teenager riding motorcycles. I digressed🙂. Like to hear from you about mileage rating, as you know that too could be a factor for some of us who don’t get out as much as others. Thanks again.
Mileage rating doesn't count. Sort of. The more you run your tires the better it is for them. The constant heating and cooling of the tires while driving and sitting helps them stay healthy. Tires that aren't used often isn't good. That's why mileage doesn't really count. You could put 6K miles on it in 6 months and then it sits for 6 months. If you put low mileage every year, that usually means it sits a lot. Tires don't like that. Tires on a MH will almost always date out before they even begin to look like they need replacing. But there are so many other things that contribute to good tire health. Like proper balancing, front end alignment, proper PSI according to your weight, road conditions, keeping them out of the sun and so on. So IMO without knowing how you care for your tires, in your case with 12K miles in about 2.5yrs is below normal use for most MH's. Or at least full timing MH's. If you just use your MH periodically, then your tires are getting used even less than normal. So my recommendation would be-with all other things I mentioned above being in good working order-you should be able to go 5 probably 6 years on those tires then change them out. I know some folks go longer than that but I would not. Better to be safe then sorry.
@@RVstreet Thanks Martin. I use tire covers to protect from UV. I do need to do as you suggested in another video and drive coach every couple of weeks or so to help avoid flat spotting, and cracking. The thing I was trying to get across, was assuming there’s a significant disparity between say a 35K and 65K mile tire, wouldn’t it be prudent to consider the lower mileage tires for folks that don’t put a lot of miles on coach each year? Assume one isn’t giving up quality. That was question I was trying to pose. Thanks again.
Hi Martin, where did you purchase your (conical) tapered seat lug nuts? I called Dorman Mfg.
and they only recommend the factory 2 piece lug nuts stating that the rim would also have to be machined to match the lug nut taper.
Mark
When I replaced my rear dually's in June of 2017, I had Southern Tire purchase and install self centering lug nuts on all 4 rims for a total of 12 @ $10.ea., so I don't know where they got them nor the Mfg. There was no machining the rims. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Hi Martin, I am under the impression that rv's need ten ply tires from what you said it sounds like 6 ply. What is the difference in tires plyes and is there a difference between class A and class C rv tires? I get a lot of misinformation and I trust yours which is why I'm asking
My tires are 16ply not 6. There's not much difference on Class A's and Class C's other than Class C's don't carry as much weight and they usually have 19.5" rims therefore a smaller tire. Class A's like mine are 22.5" rims therefore bigger tires. Class A DP's have even larger rims and tires and carry more weight. I have a friend that just replaced his tires on his Class A, DP and those tires were nearly $8K.
Thanks Martin for another very informative video. I'd never heard of Centromatic rings before, where do I get them? Will any tire shop install them for me. I will be repalcing my six factory installed Michelin tires this spring as they will be aged out. I'm planning on having the shop install Toyo 122 tires. Thanks again for your videos.
With a heavy heart I have to tell you that Martin has passed away and I don't have the answer to your question. Sorry
I'm so sorry Joni for your loss. I wasn't aware that Martin had passed. I'm so sorry. I will continue to watch his information filled posts and shop at your Amazon store to support you.
I wish you the very best in the future. Take care
Hi
Martin,
Do
You have a
TPMS
Video?
Here's all my videos I've done so far: ruclips.net/user/RVstreetplaylists
Here's the one on my TPMS: ruclips.net/video/2kCXRbvtoYA/видео.html
I do not like my wheel covers, similar to yours but all lnuts are dummies (came with SUNSEEKER Class C). I don’t put them on because tpms valves do not extend enough to easily check tire pressure which always reads differently then manual check. Guess that’s in another video lol. Thanks for putting this out there, good info.
With a sad heart I have to tell you that Martin has passed away and I don't have the answer to your question.
Omg I’m so sorry to hear of Martin’s passing. 😢My sincerest condolences-he will be greatly missed.😊
curious question. what did it cost to replace all 6? thank for the great video
haha should of just watched to the end. saw it thank you
Re the centramatics -wouldn’t you do road force balance OR centramatics -but why both? wouldn’t the centramatics try to counter the balance weights? Thx. Love your videos. I buy through your store!
Yes you can do either or. In the video I explained I just like to do both b/c I like to start at Zero as much as possible. But you don't have to. Just a personal preference of mine. And no, the centramatics don not counter the balanced weights.
And...thank you so much Trav for supporting us using my Amazon Store. You fans are the best 🙏
Martin, thank you for all your work on this channel. I just asked the Centramatic person on the phone about using their balancer on my Airstream Atlas motor coach with the 16x5.5 Alcoa wheels. He said that you can't use them because there is not enough clearance for the calipers. I said that I had seen someone (you) place the balancer between the two wheels in the dualies and he said he hasn't heard of doing that. Am I confused, or is this guy (from the company) misinformed. I also wondered how you get the stem across the balancer, since there aren't any extra slots in the balancer, just the 6 holes for the lugs.. Is the diameter of the balancer smaller than where the stems come out of the tires? Right now I am confused. Do you have any thoughts on this?
Either you asked wrong, maybe it's b/c of the size of your rims you can't put them in between the dually's OR I think he totally misunderstood what you're wanting to do. The balancers ALWAYS go in between the dually's.This is right from their website in the FAQ section:
Simply remove the wheel, use the bolt holes as guides and reinstall the wheel. Steer axle balancers mount between the hub and wheel, while balancers for the duals mount between the dual wheels.
Ask for Ricky Jordan. He's been their for years and knows what's going on. This is not rocket science. They just need to find the right ones for your rig b/c there are A LOT of different configurations.
As far as the extension stem across the balancer, you can clearly see here ruclips.net/video/zjVeal3qzb8/видео.html ....at 11:01 in the time line how the stem extension comes from the inside dually, thru the balancer, then out the outside rim. Where did you come up with there's only 6 holes in the balancer for lugs? Do you not see those two large oblong areas in the balancers where the stems are: ruclips.net/video/zjVeal3qzb8/видео.html 19:10 in the time line?
Hopefully this will help
My Thor citation came with metal extensions. Which rubbled against the simulators until they cut thru on the inside rear tire extensions and of course went flat. Tire guy said 90 percent of all rvs that had flat tires were caused by the same problem I had. So I removed them. Problem solved. I plan on watching all of your videos. I live in Willis so I will be looking for your motorhome.
The extensions were obviously not installed correctly so they'd be centered in the holes. A rubber grommet like I showed to hold the extension firmly would of also prevented this.
thx Stan 👍
@@RVstreet I do respect your opinion and advice. The inside extensions that were on the wheels were long and made of I believe brass and therefore kind of soft. I think they wiggled as the wheel rotated causing the rubbing and cutting. The simulators are thin sharp and cut right into the stems. I don't have the rubber grommets that may have prevented the problem. The cut stem as you concluded was touching the simulator. Another stem was considerably worn but was not touching the simulator while It was stationary. I am not real impressed the quality of the simulators. They may have rotated on the wheel. Anyhow I think It would be a good Idea to let your readers know that this is a potential problem.
I found the rubber valve stem stabilizers on amazon. I agree that should do the trick. I just wish I knew about them before I threw away the extensions. Thanks for the information.
@@stanglenn1332 I hope you found the right grommets. The ones I showed in the video are tapered at an angle. Other ones that are available don't fit right. Trust me. I bought 2 different sets. Finding the right ones was very difficult but I finally found them. The ones that fit correctly are in my Amazon Store if you have the same rims as I do.
www.amazon.com/shop/rvstreet
@@RVstreet Thanks.
The Mercedes wheels have 1.5" holes and the simulators have 1" holes that don't line up. I can buy the 1.5" stabilizers ($35.00 per pair) that would fit the wheel but it would still leave at least half of the length of the extension going through the 1" hole unsupported. It might work and it might not. I am looking for 1" stabilizers. I may just go with the air pressure monitors and crawl under the chassis when the tires need air. I have read reviews that
stated that the system was inaccurate. Are you satisfied with yours? Thanks for sharing your experience with us newbies.
Hey Martin,
I came back to this video to watch again, and make sure I was buying the right tire brand, and also to ask a question I don't think I ever heard you address, and that is, after washing my tire, and I want the luster back ? What do you recommend, some say poteolem based, others say water based, I even had some say to use pledge!
Could you please steer me in the right direction...
Thanks
Lonny
Martin always said never use anything petroleum based on the tires. I'm sorry I don't have a better answer for you but Martin passed away a few months ago and he was the answer man. I'm trying my best but not very good at answers.
@@RVstreet
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what is the difference btw spin balance and road force balance? and since you have the center matic, why not just do the spin balance?
There's a lot of info on the web about the difference between the two.
Even though I have Centramatic Balancing Rings, as I said in the video...I want to start off as perfect as possible and spend the extra few bucks for Road Force Balancing. Not all will want to or be willing to do as I do...but that's ok. Keeping all of my front end suspension, bearings, king pins and tires in perfect form and condition is more important to me than saving a few bucks.
thx for your question Mehmet 🔧
Part number or dimensions of the gromets would have been nice?!
I'm sad to say that Martin has passed away and I don't have the part numbers. Sorry
Marvin. I currently have Michelin 235/80/22.5. Xrv. The Toyo M122 fit the same rim you had before. I’d like to try these in place of the Michelins I have. You stated you liked the tire. Is the ride pretty good compared to the Michelins you did have.
Yes they ride even better and more rubber on the road cause they're a bit wider. That's why I bought 6 of them. I love these new tires all the way around.
Hey Martin sorry to bother you but what kind of tire would you suggest for my class C Winnebago spirit RV 225/R75/16 I look at Toyo but not sure. Hope everything is getting better with you me and my family are preying for you 🤗🙏🙏❣️❣️ Thanks for everything you do for us In rving
Why aren't you sure about Toyos?
@@RVstreet I'm want to get these tires but I thought you might have a suggestion on a class C. I have hankook tires now. I'm still checking around. Hope everything is going well 🙏🤗❤️🩹 with you and Jony. Look up alkalize or die book . This is a good book because it tells you how to stay alkalize. Because Cancer can't grow in a alkalize body just saying. Me and my family are preying for you 🤗🙏🙏 Martin. Go to RUclips and watch Grase for purpose thanks for getting back to me 🤗🙏