Why I choose the YFZ450R over the raptor 700
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- Опубликовано: 26 фев 2023
- Why I would purchase a 2023 YFZ450R over a raptor 700 any day of the week brand new 2023 YFZ450R with full blacked out HMF exhaust with HMF optimizer factory 43 front bumper.. Why you shouldn't buy a raptor 700 why you shouldn't buy a raptor 660..
Turns 90 degrees going 30 with amazing grip and not leaning pobably will make you tip over
And in soft terrain grabbing the tires
The Raptor 700R definitely isnt TOP heavy. The Raptor 700R is more an *All Around sport quad* . The YFZ450R is a race ready quad. Thats why its stronger built for jumping etc. I own BOTH & love em. The Raptor 700R isnt a putt putt machine. I get it you LOVE your YFZ450R as do i ..but both are well built to withstand abuse. #MaximaOils #F150Raptor
Thanks for the explanation about the difference, I already have a 2019 raptor and I am planning to get a new quad thanks to your video I definitely want a yfc450
That's awesome man you're gonna love it it's nothing but the best it's the top of the line you won't regret it thank you for your comment and thank you for watching my videos.😁
You already have a Raptor 700 it's likely a lot cheaper to toss a wider set of Houser a-arms and a Dominator II axle to improve corning and stability. The Raptor is a powerhouse once uncorked. I love my old YFZ450R but with a few mods the Raptor is an awesome open class contender.
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Thank you for the recommendation, that’s exactly what I have in mind. Any brands you recommend???
@@kbmotorsportsonline where do i buy these parts from
You made the right choice I have 3 450's never would I get a raptor I have a 06 yfz and a 2016 yfz 450r and a 08 kfx 450r love them
They are all excellent. Own both YFZ450 & Raptor 700R-SE. Love em . Btw, Raptor 700R is drag race king.
The YFZ450R are more expensive at the dealer and to modify.
You'll need the Vortex to smooth out the choppy throttle, decrease bog, and flame outs at low speed. The upper a-arms need to be swapped out to utilized the caster bracket for sharper turns going slow and less twitchiness going fast. Several YFZ450R owners believe it's required to resort back to the 09 style clutch basket for durability, and those who ride aggressively will end up buying a lower main subframe.
The Raptor is least expensive at the dealer but it needs shocks and a-arms to decrease the center of gravity to decrease tipsiness. Suspension upgrades typically start at 2500 and quickly go north depending on the brand. The Raptor does not need the Vortex to run properly at trail speeds, flame outs, or for quick burst of throttle from idle. No one has reported a clutch basket failure in the Raptor even though it's the same basket minus the slipper clutch. I do recall seeing bent a-arms but that happens on both models, but I don't recall the frame being a common failure point on the Raptor. A camshaft, FCI, full exhaust easily carries the Raptor over the 50HP mark with a generic port job and a higher compression pump gas piston you're entering 60hp without diminishing durability.
I personally like the YFZ450R for hill climbing. However, both machines when properly modified will get the job done.
Thank you for the information very knowledgeable and very helpful thank you
Just got a 22 YFZ 450R and love it. It's still in stock form but so far my impression is that it has very good power, especially in the upper rpms (almost hits like a 2 stroke). Very good suspension but definitely on the stiff side as delivered. The steering is quick and it feels very planted. I also have an LTR and KTM 505sx--which are also excellent machines. I also have a Raptor 660--which I think looks better than the 700s. I would agree in stock form they are tippy, but widen them, add a pipe, etc. and they are a lot more fun. The only thing I don't like about the Raptors is they don't rev out like the 450s.
In my opinion it's the best quad out there the most power the most torque reliable dependable racing quad
I am 49 years old and I have also been riding almost my entire life. I’ve owned both quads and I believe the raptor 700 is all around better for the weekend warrior. We primarily ride the deserts here in Arizona and the Glamis sand dunes. The raptor is the faster and more powerful quad in every situation
Yes Sir, but what about cornering, drifting, stability, agility?
@@all_out_of_bubble_gum Both excellent but YFZ450R is slightly better for aggressive riding. I own both. -NW Ohio
@@all_out_of_bubble_gumchange the a arms & axle bingo
"The raptor is the faster and more powerful quad in every situation". Lol. Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh harder 😂😂🤣🤣. Seriously, though, the only time and place that a Raptor is faster than a YFZ is in a perfectly straight line, and even then, it'll take several seconds for the Raptor to catch the YFZ. I feel like some of you silly little boys say things without even putting them to the test. My YFZ will SMOKE any Raptor and it won't even be close.
@@sbz666_crack kills 😂
What's up with the subframes on the yfz 450's
I own both of these beautiful machines and I will admit i enjoy both of them for different reasons. Yfz in trails and tracks. Raptor for open riding likes dunes or fields and drag racing.
Valid points. Though mod for mod for the raptor is usually quite known, atleast potential wise generally among the atv community, besides being kind of factory "laidback" alongside turbo install as a common utilization, yet utterly unlikely that it would keep up with the yfz in pure riding nonetheless, rider gap or not, handling shouldn't be comparable and the yfz design really outshines most, won't see alot of raptors killing duels if they haven't gotten into gearing etc, casing the short trail-suited gears from factory. Great warrior despite their differences, guess alot of people really appreciate the seat position on the rappy, less maintenance not everyone handles the agressive way of riding.
I agree with you very true
I got the 2019 yfz450r se in red...love it thing is a beast
Definitely 💯
To do crazy 450 is the way to go easy 👍🏼👍🏼 the stock new raptor is just like a 400 I try a 2020 and I prefer 1000 times my ltr 450
I bent my axle to on a yfz450r its an 09 but i got hit by a can am 4 door razor and it was just bearly slightly bent but i swaped it for another oem and I’ve jumped a good 20 feet in the air and land flat and the axle has not bent on me so they do bend but they need to be hit super hard
I’m looking to get one of these quad bikes to build a cross cart out of and I did notice the raptor sits pretty high, but seeing as I’m going to lengthen it and put a seat down I’m wondering if it’s still would be top-heavy looking at the front of your 450 it does have a wider stance and you bringing up the tubing thickness, so now I’m considering getting a 450 is it no aluminum or a steel frame do you know?
What if your 6 foot 1 is either quad good
what front bumper is that?
I'll take a yfz but I think the biggest benefit of the raptor is the engine durability for recreational use if you live out in the country and just wanna ride the hell out of it constantly. I'd still get a raptor. It's a good beater
Yea I agree
I love my yfz450 best ride PERIOD!!
Definitely 😁
I use to ride a R1 Le from 2010 and boy did it produce heat between my legs. I've heard these things do the same compared to RAPTORS.
450 > 700! The 450s are just more comfortable and quicker! And they look better (IMO)
Definitely 💯
Both are awesome machines. For me the raptor is the better choice...and knowing how to actually ride the raptor...it is very capable. I've xc raced many raptors over the years, and have beat many 450s
Big air requires Walsh subframe
Yea the thing is ur turning that raptor in some dunes where’s there’s deep tracks and the raptor is wayyyy better for wheelies and longer rides I have a raptor and it’s great I love it I also love a yfz I still wanna buy one but over all I prefer a raptor I can ramp that thing perfectly but yea this is just my opinion I still love the yfz and I’m making a lot wider so it’s as wide as a yfz
Your experience is yours, and more than I have tbh. Some of issues you had with 700, tbf, seem inherent to the design, being a narrower quad, which could be better for tight trails. And the front bumper/a arms/axle, hitting a tree is alot of force, there is no suspension absorbing the impact. Better for the arm/axle to bend than the frame to bend or start cracking. The front bumper mounting may be better on the yfz, havent compared in person. The front bumper design may be a factor too, it is desirable to have the front bumper bend/deform to avoid overstressing the frame, like a crumple zone. I think it comes down to use and preference, many say the 700 lasts longer, as far as engine life/no rebuilds, which is appealing to recreational riders, and the softer suspension works better at lower speeds you go on trail, vs the track. Again, it depends. I'm in the northeast, so the trails are often tighter, rocky, lots of roots. Reverse is nice to have. Somewhere with more open trails, reverse wouldnt be an issue, and higher speeds would favor yfz stiffness/wideness. I may get a 700 in the future, see how I like it stock, maybe make it wider eventually. Heck, maybe buy both!😂 A yfz450 chassis with a long lasting/durable 700 engine would be interesting, I'm guessing the 700 engine wouldn't fit though.
All the reason you beat rafters off the line is caused that y of z is lighter
I LITERLY change my 2023 raptor for that same yfz 450r it look mutch better🔥& can u drop me down the link of the hmf exhaust and the hmf optimizer so I can purchase it🔥🔥
That's awesome bro good for you and Hey just go to eBay you can get anything you need for your bike including the full blacked out HMF exhausts with the hmf optimizer..
@@rodneyyfz450r hey I’m askin bc everytime I look it don’t pop up is shows only the 2022 no 2023 and I wanna know the correct optimizer bc ik it bring the correct setting for the atv
@@GloAngell_ 2009-2023 YFZ450R models take the same exhaust and fuel controller. However, you'd be better off with a Vortex ECU if off idle throttle response and ease of use is important to you.
Someone who weighs 260 be able (without damaging anything) to ride a yfz? What’s your take?
I know guys that are over 400 pounds that ride on A YFZ450R
@@rodneyyfz450r thanks bro I think you solidified my choice.
What bumper do you have, I like it
Factory 43
About to buy my first yamaha i will get the yfz
And the raptor was the one that got me into atv because of the looks but the yfz beats it by engineering
I own a raptor 700 it has more power and torque and it is definitely faster then the yfz. I also don’t really get what your saying about a raptor being made poorly basically dogging it lol it’s just as well made as the yfz 100% there a reason why it’s called the king it’s the best selling sports quad of all time! That’s a fact too. There only one thing the yfz does better and that’s take a turn that’s it the rest is better in the raptor or pretty much on par with the yfz maybe jumping is better after a certain height on the yfz but not noticeable especially on the trail. Conquer bigger dunes and bigger hills on the raptor. One other thing everyone probably already knows and that’s that the raptor will last longer then a 450 in general. With less maintenance
Yeah I guess it's just a matter of opinion trust me ... I've done my research I've been riding my whole life trust me all I want is the best of the best the most work the most power I've wrote all kinds of different raptors I don't feel the power I don't feel the torque top heavy just so many complaints.. You couldn't give me a raptor for a $1000 lol You go to a quad waiting event you will never see a raptor on the track there's a reason for that period...
Trust me the 1st time I got on a raptor 700 0 my gosh 700 CC I'd better hold on there must be a lot of power here and I was sadly Disappointed in the power and the torque top heavy I couldn't hit a corner without almost going over couldn't even sling it into a donut... Anybody that I write with that has a raptor nothing but problems they can't hit a tree at 10 miles an hour without causing $1000 in damage.. But I guess it all boils down to it's all in a matter of opinion..
The reverse, and add a cam on the 700 with an exhaust and the raptor will dust the 450. I have both. the 450 is more nimble but the added torque of the 700 is way better. They are not the same torque . Ive ridden the 700 very rough, not sure what your talking about bending axles and arms? Its ok to have an opinion but this is a stretch at the very least lol.. . If you hit a tree on any quad something is going to bend .. the 700 can be lowered easily and widen it if you're scared about tipping. and finally...., you turn any quad that quick at that speed in loose sand without leaning and you WILL tip any quad . Stop hitting trees, this isn't a bullldozer
YFZ450 all day everyday boys!
Definitely 💯
450 is better for racing 700 is better for trail riding
Exactly 💯 But I do a lot of trail riding and it's still an amazing machine even trail riding 😁
@@rodneyyfz450r if I ever buy a 450 will be a yz
But having reverse gear is a must for me but yeah they both have their pros and cons
Raptor all day unless you race
I XC race a Raptor 700 and love it. I chose the Raptor over YFZ (I bought a brand new quad) and there's a lot to like about it for a woods racer.
I haven't bent all the things you've seen get bent. Im also good enough to not run into the trees lol. It's a quality quad for sure.
Bro I can’t find the 2023 exhaust 😕can u send me a link😕
I wish I knew how to do that I don't I'm sorry bro
They're the same as 2022 models.
@@kbmotorsportsonline ty Ty so mutch for that answer that help me alot
@@kbmotorsportsonline oh ok ty quick question if I only put the pope would it sound load too or I’ll need the optimizer? I just want my bike to be load some good load pipe
What's the difference between the r and not r
Did u find something out ??
🎉 we all know the 450s are the best
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A yfz doesnt beat a stock for stock raptor in a drag race, you beat the rider lol.
7 yfz450's in 3 years.... that says alot about the yfz450😂
I think the YFZ deserves the 700 engine better than the rator 700
Shots Firrreddd!!!!! 😆
😜🤪😝😝🤪🤪
Both are great but totally different machines with different purpose! But I will take my banshee over both of them give me that 350 twin 2-stroke music that’s where it’s at kids 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
The Raptor isn't even close to $1,000 cheaper unless you're talking about the base model with pogo suspension. Comparing apples-to-apples, the Raptor is $100 cheaper when it comes to the SE models of each and $300 cheaper when comparing the R models.
The Raptor 700r cases out if you hit a jump with any height. Ankle breaker
You soind like a person that made a bad desison and trying to convince themselves 😂😂😂
No I've never purchased a raptor ever LOL
They don't have
Ain’t nothing a little $50 lowering kit that can’t take care of that top heaviness and stance on the 700r
When that 450 engine eats crap that 700 will still be running
The raptor 700 is a sweet machine and they do take a beating!!! The raptor and yfz are both animals and they lead the pack. But you are comparing a trail quad to a straight up race quad!!!! The raptor sits higher because of the ground clearance for trail riding. People don't rev the raptor 700 off the line because they don't want to wheelie so your yfz beats them off the line!!! If you put the body English in to that raptor like you do your yfz it would not of tipped on you like it did don't blame the machine. But the raptor being a trail quad still eats 450r.If yamaha designed the raptor 700 as a straight up race quad like the 450r no 450 would come close!!!!!!? Thair is no replacement for displacement!!!!!!!!
The 700 is faster and cheaper. Yes a 450r will get the jump but shift past 2nd and the 450r is a recent memory. Widen the suspension and the 450 has zero chance. Plus the 700 is less maintenance.
Exactly
Facts
Thats right drop knowledge bro.
I was thinking cant people get the raptor and widen the a arms and rear axles the same width as the yfz or even wider? That way you can ride aggressively on turns swing your leg over the seat lean over without worrying about tipping over
@@Legalizeranch420 Exactly what I did
Had a 450 and it is nice. The raptor is a better choice regardless of the $1k.
Your hyperventilating and sound kinda worked up.its is more like slander then a opinion.it will be ok people will choose what they want.its all about the joy of riding brother
shut up
Also when yout 6 foot 215 pounds like I am that 450 feels like your on a raptor 90. 😂
The yfz450 does not have more torque or horsepower then the raptor 700 the yfz450 produces 28 pound feet of torque and the raptor 700 produces 36 pound feet of torque the YFZ450 may feel faster and quicker because of its lightweight frame and its high revving engine but the raptor is made for raw power and honestly i like both but if I had to choose I’ll go with the raptor with a few suspension mods you’ll have the handling and the responsive power the perfect combination but that yfz450 is still fire🔥🔥and in my opinion it’s the best 450 quad in its class
Trust me I tried to get into the raptor 700 because I was like wow 700 CC this thing must be a beast it must be the top of the line when it comes to a quad and I was terribly mistaken very disappointed I will always go with the YFZ450R over the raptor 700 any day of the week.. But I guess everybody has their preference and their riding style🙂
Are you inbread or something?
you need to cam it , it will become an entirely different motor trust me , night and day difference between a cam and exhaust. @@rodneyyfz450r
I'll take a properly set up Raptor over any 450 because they're easier and cheaper to live with. SOCH instead of DOCH, lower compression ratio (which makes good pump gas ok), lower revving (adding to longevity), more power especially low to midrange, etc., AND reverse. For starters, the Raptor needs the 4.5 inches of extra width that you can get from Houser A-arms along with long travel Stage 5 Elkas. My 450 fix comes from my YZ450F (2 wheels) which makes a lot more power than a YFZ450.
Gee wiz! You got a scratch on your new bike! What a bunch of sorry excuses 😂
No you must be mistaken LOL there still isn't a scratch on my bike after 90 hours LOL
Take that to the trails and Try and keep up with a raptor 700r will never happen. Those 450s run hot as hell if you don't run them hard. Not made for trail ridding
Sorry but I disagree I ride with a guy that has the 700 are and he has problems and a lot of trouble keeping up with us LOL