I think what wouldve been a helpful takeaway here for many people is that mono: both channels playing exactly the same signal stereo: both channels playing a different signal By delaying the left channel slightly it plays a slightly different signal compared to the right one, and this creates the illusion of width. However, you dont necessarily need a delay to make things sound wider (as is kind of implied here) - virtually any L/R processing (subtle distortion, EQ, etcetera) will generate differences between the L and R channel creating width. Whats more, I find that using delays to widen sounds actually has drawbacks; e.g. if you collapse a sound treated with the Haass effect to mono you''ll reveal the effect's chorus-y nature and while that can be interesting, it doesnt sound terribly transparent. What I've started doing recently is using an EQ to make sounds wider. You take an EQ8, put it on LR mode and then cut out small notches at a range of different frequencies on the L channel. Then copy these notches to the R channel (right mouse button on EQ8 for this option) and ever so slightly move all of them to the right or left of their original positions. The idea is that frequency-wise both L and R are slightly different, but not to a point where it becomes noticeable. In addition, because both channels are EQed to the same extent as far as +- in volume goes, you don't get a result that's skewed to the right or the left (cutting out notches by definition makes things less loud, so if you would only cut out notchs on the L channel but not the right, you would get a somewhat stereo result but it would also be skewed/ "panned" to the right) but rather a result that is stereo but also in the center of your mix panning-wise.
You Suck at Producing maybe you can talk about it in a future video e.g. when doubling synths you can use different EQ and reverb settings on both L and R to not only make things sound wider but also much more complex and interesting. apart from that it was still a nice video :)
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bro I don't know what to say. your first little delay tip just saved my life man.. thanks a ton. hitting that little like button is not enough at all.. what all I can say is a big thank you for making up these great videos :) keep up the great work
only thing i would mention is that if you create the stereo image with delay, the side you hear first will always appear louder, because the brain hears it first it will hear it as dominant, something to keep in mind with the mix
What I like to do is get two sounds that are very similar and play then together panned left and right. Creates a nice width while also adding some very nice texture.
my mind is confused, on one side I hear this guy's super valuable lessons, on the other side, I feel how massively sarcastic he constantly sounds, but 10ms delayed on the right so my mind perceives it as one and its all very confusing
1. Layer 2. Pan one more left and pan one more right 3. Add effects how you please. It'll give a much more full effect than any of his options, they aren't balanced enough.
Honestly bro, you pack so much knowledge into such a short time span it's pretty nuts... how did you learn all this? I mean of course you studied and experimented and dug deep but did you have any mentors or teachers?
'Hi, I'm underbelly and today were going to clone, cut in half, and then genetically modify children before proceeding to pan and flange them on their play ground.'
Roger was clipping all the way through due to his resonant low middle THICCness. Joking aside, that's why I fricking hate PIANOS and RHODES, and working with them to be more specific. You may have them all EQed and compressed like a pro, but all of a sudden it just POPS UP with the most disgusting fart of a sound imaginable, and it leaves you wondering what the heck could I have done wrong. At the same time you can't just avoid using these luscious instruments, just listen to how melodic they sound. Damn I got carried away, PEACE OUT, love your videos. (ツ)
Denis Borisov Yeah, just have to limit the scale or avoid that one note with a sectional silence so the brain fills in a fantasized version of what that tone should have been. P.S. tone and note have the same letters 😮
To be honest, if you treat a Roger with the haas effect (The short name for the delay trick in this video) and try to squish him back into mono, he’s not gonna have the best time. So the haas effect it’s really not the ideal way to create stereo width, it does kind of screw with mono compatibility. However, it seems that doing subtle effects on one of the channels, like a subtle distortion or EQ, can achieve similar with with less phase issues.
Second question: StudioOneArtist does not support the outside VTS plugings, is there any pluggin in StudioOne Artist that can give an effect of Ozone Imager2 (widening the sound, phase)? First question: StudioOne Artist, the volume of an acoustic guitar recording through microphone is very low (compared to previously recorded tracks of acoustic guitars with pickups), the knob on interface is at the maximum, tracks out level -12db, the amplitude of the signal wave is low to normal, still the sound is hardly hearable even when i pop up the buss' level to +4db. Why? What can i do?
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Hey, I really like the vidéo ! I have a question though, is there a way to doo all these timming effects without causing phase issue when the track is played in mono?
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I think what wouldve been a helpful takeaway here for many people is that
mono: both channels playing exactly the same signal
stereo: both channels playing a different signal
By delaying the left channel slightly it plays a slightly different signal compared to the right one, and this creates the illusion of width. However, you dont necessarily need a delay to make things sound wider (as is kind of implied here) - virtually any L/R processing (subtle distortion, EQ, etcetera) will generate differences between the L and R channel creating width. Whats more, I find that using delays to widen sounds actually has drawbacks; e.g. if you collapse a sound treated with the Haass effect to mono you''ll reveal the effect's chorus-y nature and while that can be interesting, it doesnt sound terribly transparent.
What I've started doing recently is using an EQ to make sounds wider. You take an EQ8, put it on LR mode and then cut out small notches at a range of different frequencies on the L channel. Then copy these notches to the R channel (right mouse button on EQ8 for this option) and ever so slightly move all of them to the right or left of their original positions. The idea is that frequency-wise both L and R are slightly different, but not to a point where it becomes noticeable. In addition, because both channels are EQed to the same extent as far as +- in volume goes, you don't get a result that's skewed to the right or the left (cutting out notches by definition makes things less loud, so if you would only cut out notchs on the L channel but not the right, you would get a somewhat stereo result but it would also be skewed/ "panned" to the right) but rather a result that is stereo but also in the center of your mix panning-wise.
great advice here. Width can be achieved in a number of ways - not just a delay.
You Suck at Producing maybe you can talk about it in a future video e.g. when doubling synths you can use different EQ and reverb settings on both L and R to not only make things sound wider but also much more complex and interesting. apart from that it was still a nice video :)
F'n genius! You hecking named the intruments names that include the first letter in the instrument.
this is correct, thank you for noticing
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For sure, 100%, without a doubt, Underbelly is the best music production teacher on RUclips. So glad I found your channel dude. Thx for the help and entertainment. Keep at it
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bro I don't know what to say. your first little delay tip just saved my life man.. thanks a ton. hitting that little like button is not enough at all.. what all I can say is a big thank you for making up these great videos :) keep up the great work
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woah i like that lfo synced to the time in the delay trick, like making a phaser from scratch
thats the idea yes
only thing i would mention is that if you create the stereo image with delay, the side you hear first will always appear louder, because the brain hears it first it will hear it as dominant, something to keep in mind with the mix
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You look like you're being held hostage and told to do something you'd do anyways but like not while they stare uwuwu
Sounds like it too
What I like to do is get two sounds that are very similar and play then together panned left and right. Creates a nice width while also adding some very nice texture.
your vibe in the intro had me smiling huge. its funny cause I DO suck at producing.
This channel is a gem
To achieve the nicest sounds, I like to mono my master channel
sounds a bit too skinny for my tastes
You mean for reference right?
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Thanks again Underbelly, this is exactly what my track needed
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my mind is confused, on one side I hear this guy's super valuable lessons, on the other side, I feel how massively sarcastic he constantly sounds, but 10ms delayed on the right so my mind perceives it as one and its all very confusing
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1. Layer
2. Pan one more left and pan one more right
3. Add effects how you please.
It'll give a much more full effect than any of his options, they aren't balanced enough.
not a bad tip, any effects that allow for subtle differentiation all contribute to feelings of width
I have needed this video for so long!!
Great and simple and to the point thanks man, I’m now just a little better at producing
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Roger likes to step outside of his boundaries. (it's clipping)
if you don't want to duplicate the track, you can put in the filter delay. making one channel's delay time longer will make the track wider
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Most entertaining tutorials out here
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lmaooo when it zooms in on your face at the beginning and end it looks like you're trying pretty hard not to bust up laughing at your own persona
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Stereo Width has always been a tricky bastard for me, I don't know why. Looks like I really do suck at producing!
yeah, hard to achieve without phasing issues
Thought you might have made fart sounds have more stereo width at this point. Lmao great video, I keep learning more everyday.
damn should've thought of that
When you become professional and you have to tell people from where you learned to produce... You show this, wowzers will be the reaction
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Honestly bro, you pack so much knowledge into such a short time span it's pretty nuts... how did you learn all this? I mean of course you studied and experimented and dug deep but did you have any mentors or teachers?
These tutorials are strangely useful...
weird right
that shit song is still super smooth ✌️
ay thanks dawg
ableton 10 looking fresh
nachobarro as apple juice?
grapefruit
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Thank u for informations i gotcha and ur diction is awesome im impressed such a nice video
Shout out to Roger!
'Hi, I'm underbelly and today were going to clone, cut in half, and then genetically modify children before proceeding to pan and flange them on their play ground.'
Awesome trick! Thanks for the choad tip.
Roger was clipping all the way through due to his resonant low middle THICCness. Joking aside, that's why I fricking hate PIANOS and RHODES, and working with them to be more specific. You may have them all EQed and compressed like a pro, but all of a sudden it just POPS UP with the most disgusting fart of a sound imaginable, and it leaves you wondering what the heck could I have done wrong. At the same time you can't just avoid using these luscious instruments, just listen to how melodic they sound. Damn I got carried away, PEACE OUT, love your videos. (ツ)
Denis Borisov Yeah, just have to limit the scale or avoid that one note with a sectional silence so the brain fills in a fantasized version of what that tone should have been.
P.S. tone and note have the same letters 😮
yes, choose your chode notes wisely
Hmm, I've never thought of that. I tend to sort of overlook multiband compression as an unknown beast. Thanks, will try it out!
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Great vid man... can you tell that how it affects the child in a mono field?
no difference in mono. polio on the other hand...
To be honest, if you treat a Roger with the haas effect (The short name for the delay trick in this video) and try to squish him back into mono, he’s not gonna have the best time. So the haas effect it’s really not the ideal way to create stereo width, it does kind of screw with mono compatibility. However, it seems that doing subtle effects on one of the channels, like a subtle distortion or EQ, can achieve similar with with less phase issues.
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Really cool. I like the way you explain it.
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I wanna see all the outtakes of you cracking up delivering some of these lines.
Second question: StudioOneArtist does not support the outside VTS plugings, is there any pluggin in StudioOne Artist that can give an effect of Ozone Imager2 (widening the sound, phase)?
First question: StudioOne Artist, the volume of an acoustic guitar recording through microphone is very low (compared to previously recorded tracks of acoustic guitars with pickups), the knob on interface is at the maximum, tracks out level -12db, the amplitude of the signal wave is low to normal, still the sound is hardly hearable even when i pop up the buss' level to +4db. Why? What can i do?
Upload the final mix.
nah a wide shitsong is still a shitsong
Haha, got good laughs and learned something. Time to make the kids wobble.
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any video coming soon on phasing? what it is? how to hear for it? how to fix it???
I know man... but frig every few days you just drive that home ....
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With this technic i cant get phase issues right?
No you definitely can get phase issues lol
yeah definitely.
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but is the panning being stereo? or just like not panning at all
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does linking a delay to a lfo make the signal actually speed up and slow down following the lfo ?
What we used to do with guitars 🤗
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Underbelly, am I crazy or do I hear more mic hiss than usual? D: I’ll pay for a new preamp!
yeah my bad i need a new xlr cable
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I cant believe u didnt mention the MS technique
Rogers like a big fucking choad here lmao
great vid
fuck i want these maxforlive LFO that you can just put on everything...
Are there any similar plugins I could use instead?
Hey, I really like the vidéo ! I have a question though, is there a way to doo all these timming effects without causing phase issue when the track is played in mono?
useful
im glad you think so francesco