FPP Episode 321 (Video) - Ilford ULF + Special Film Order 2024
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- Опубликовано: 30 апр 2024
- Ordering is now open for the ILFORD Ultra Large Format (ULF) special order program. This annual campaign gives photographers the opportunity to order non-standard sizes of ILFORD sheet film and other specialty products without the constraints of the usual minimum order quantity.
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When to order:
Order between April 25th through June 1, 2024
All great news
ohhh cool, I can order the weird smaller sheet sizes. Thanks guys.
It's great that FPP is now a ULF dealer! My pie-in-the-sky request would be FP4+ in 46mm roll. 127 size cameras keep following me home and other available options have spotty quality issues. I'll pick up a spool of HP5+ and be careful with the backing papers I've got. 400 is a bit fast for these old cameras, especially if the shutters run a little slow.
Related question: What's a good way to accurately cut film in the dark at home? Sheet film needs to be very close to true size. It's tough to get a truly square cut with a paper chopper and those can't shave off small slivers of mistakes. A Rotatrim (tm) makes a nice, accurate cut and can shave off tiny re-cut but I'd worry about scratching the emulsion with the plastic cover rail that makes it work so well. Or is most emulsion tougher than that?
Infrared goggles? Anyone have intel on using them to cut film in the dark? - Mike
FPP sticking up for us 127 guys. Agree a slower speed would be great. Shutters are slow in the older cameras. How many standard sized rolls in 50ft of film?
I love you guys and I love Ilford and the ULF but ...
I've been getting into 127 by slicing down 120. I thought it would be great to order 50ft of 46mm HP5. That would be 25 hand rolls for £154 or £6.16 per roll. HP5 120 is typically £7. My last batch I got for £6.50 a roll. So there is hardly any incentive to buy a bulk load, especially as I don't have to commit to 25 rolls up front, can have it now and get backing paper to repurpose or can even just shoot it as 120 if I fancy. This is not a dig at FPP. £154 is the cheapest I've seen a 50ft roll quoted.
I've found Ilford pricing usually maps pretty closely to film area at about £7 for 80 square inches (an 8x10).
120 is £7 as finished film
36exp 35mm is £7 as finished film
4 sheets of 4x5 is £6.50,
8x10 is £5.50 bargain!
ULF order of 8x20 is £13.56 a sheet or £6.78 for an 8x10 area. Same kind of price for special orders.
Continuing this logic 50ft of 46mm is 1,080 square inches or 13.5 8x10 equivalents @ £7 should cost £94.
It is odd that in this case it is cheaper to buy more emulsion area in as fully finished and packaged film and throw most of that away rather than buy in bulk. It is always worth buying 35mm in bulk to save a couple of quid a roll. Do they hate 127 shooters? What have we done to them :) If it had been, say, £110 free shipping from a UK dealer I'd have snapped up a roll.
Anyhow a totally first world probably! I'm off to stop moaning and get a life.
Answering my own question here. I actually wrote to Ilford and asked the dumb question as to why 46mm was more expensive than other materials and they politely replied that it is about using factory lines to make a lower volume product. Putting it into my own words it is two things
1) Tooling i.e. setting up a line to produce a product has a fixed cost in time and materials no matter how much product is produced. c.f. injection moulding costs thousands for the first piece to be made then fractions of a penny for each subsequent piece.
2) Opportunity cost. To switch a line from slicing 120 at 61mm to 46mm takes time and then it takes time to switch it back, never mind the brief period it is actually slicing 46mm. All that time it could have been running flat out slicing 120 that would sell like hot cakes.
Bottom line: I'm asking dumb questions from the point of view of someone who writes software not someone who runs a factory. Having thought about it I remember lessons from my father many years ago who ran a cardboard factor. I should engage brain more!
Hey Mike, if they end up distributing backing paper would that be included in the order already made or a separate charge? And, would it be numbered for the format (example the 46 mm for 127)?
Eagerly awaiting a response from the Ilford folks. If we can get backing paper, the FPP will look into spool options.
so no ilford delta 3200?
I'd buy 50 sheets in a heartbeat maybe even 100
@@markquiram9012 i was planning more in direction of 500 in 4x5