golden rule + red trail has a bug for sure, years ago i was playing flicker striker slayer with self bleed (dont remenber exactly the mechanics of the buid ) and some times i has just navigating areas with no mobs and i jump on some boxes or chests that we can open on the ground, and my character just MELTED like if a character with -60 fire res turned ON righteous fire, i did not undestant what happened, basically a inflicted bleed on a chest in the ground and reflected back to me but i cannot leech from boxes so i killed myself, happened several times exactlly like that, sad to see shit like this STILL happens in the game
Was thinking of swapping to tainted pact now that i got the required uniques (ssf), would it work if I just don't use invuln or something else to fix this issue?
I have a problem with random packs of mobs that can't have their health stolen. Due to the poison being applied, I die in 0.1 seconds even without the poison gem at 0% chaos damage resistance. How can I fix this?
Use Writhing Jar instead of a normal life flask to spawn worms whenever you haven't hit anything in a while to refresh your leech, that will prevent that from happening
My question is how in the first place Golden Rule doesn't reflect bleed like it is stated ? Cause it seems that you get bleed whenever you have a "chance to get bleed" on your character. But if your poisons reflect, why bleed doesn't with only Golden Rule ? (I don't know the indepth of the whole build sorry)
After some testing, I figured the "tech". So it is assumed that Bleed from Vulnerability hits doesn't reflect with golden rule ? Because to me it should reflect.
Maybe it's because *enemy* has 25% chance to bleed from hits and you don't have chance to inflict bleeding even though it says otherwise in the tooltip
What I don't understand, is the bleed (reflected or not) shouldn't affect you while you're leeching as you're a slayer, right ? Because in your Elderslayer invitation footage you are clearly still leeching when you bleed to death, that means that reflect bug bypasses the Endless Hunger node. That's rough. Also, regarding weird interactions, I recently learnt the hard way that even if you have corpse removal (with the axe mastery for example), beyond bosses' corpses aren't removed because of their special death animation. As their corpse can be detonated, I got killed by a rare mob next to him that had the detonate archnem modifier, which detonated the beyond boss corpse the frame after its death animation was over. That's something most of you probably know already, but I didn't until it happened. In that game, even when you think you're safe, there's always an interaction you didn't think about that will get you killed.
@@Ada-jn5ms Yes. He says it's due to the combination of his boots (The Red Trail) and Vulnerability, which caused bleed to apply to him. But with Endless Hunger you won't be affected by bleed so long as you are leeching. He didn't mention wether he's using Endless Hunger nor why bleed should not affect him normally. There's also no PoB, so instead I ask the question here.
@@voswouter87 it's not that bleed shouldn't affect him, but more so him being able to generally outheal it. it's the bleed getting reflected that killed him, because the damage is much higher than what bleeds normally do
he didn't have endless hunger on this setup, usually he does. kind of silly to say slayer isn't suitable for HC when carn has already killed all ubers on it SSFHC. even jugg's regen will drop off if you're not hitting things, difference is slayer hits 2 worms and is leeching like 4khp per second for the next 8 seconds, jugg drops regen the second your trauma falls off.@@voswouter87
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golden rule + red trail has a bug for sure, years ago i was playing flicker striker slayer with self bleed (dont remenber exactly the mechanics of the buid ) and some times i has just navigating areas with no mobs and i jump on some boxes or chests that we can open on the ground, and my character just MELTED like if a character with -60 fire res turned ON righteous fire, i did not undestant what happened, basically a inflicted bleed on a chest in the ground and reflected back to me but i cannot leech from boxes so i killed myself, happened several times exactlly like that, sad to see shit like this STILL happens in the game
you can also poison drox banners and traps in lab which will kill yourself if you're not leeching anything
Is that what was killing me
I've died so much time with those shits
holy fuck, i was going crazy in uber lab while dying in 0.1 sec to nothing
Hey Carn loving the tincture build, I was wondering if Conductivity was any good and if you could run that instead of Vulnerability?
If you have "UNAFFECTED BY VULNERABILITY WHILE AFFECTED BY DETERMINATION" on your Witcher's eye will it negate the curse ?
Yes it will prevent this from happening
this seems odd - dont you have the unaffected by bleeding while leeching notable?
noticed the same , you hit yourself with trauma mechanic and when you are with vulne debuff then you can get bleed from vulne
This kept happening to me and it started to annoy me so I switched to guardian srs
Was thinking of swapping to tainted pact now that i got the required uniques (ssf), would it work if I just don't use invuln or something else to fix this issue?
Get yourself a corrupted ring with bleeding cannot be inflicted on you
what was the way to not have this issue or is it just bugged and not working right?
I have a problem with random packs of mobs that can't have their health stolen. Due to the poison being applied, I die in 0.1 seconds even without the poison gem at 0% chaos damage resistance. How can I fix this?
Use Writhing Jar instead of a normal life flask to spawn worms whenever you haven't hit anything in a while to refresh your leech, that will prevent that from happening
have this been reported/fixed yet ?
My question is how in the first place Golden Rule doesn't reflect bleed like it is stated ?
Cause it seems that you get bleed whenever you have a "chance to get bleed" on your character.
But if your poisons reflect, why bleed doesn't with only Golden Rule ?
(I don't know the indepth of the whole build sorry)
After some testing, I figured the "tech". So it is assumed that Bleed from Vulnerability hits doesn't reflect with golden rule ? Because to me it should reflect.
@@zana_9412 yeah he said that bleed from vulnerbaility doesn't get reflected.
@@oscar-ei8cr I think the main bug is there. If it worked properly he wouldn't even think of putting vuln in first place.
it should but it doesn't, just how it is
Maybe it's because *enemy* has 25% chance to bleed from hits and you don't have chance to inflict bleeding even though it says otherwise in the tooltip
What I don't understand, is the bleed (reflected or not) shouldn't affect you while you're leeching as you're a slayer, right ? Because in your Elderslayer invitation footage you are clearly still leeching when you bleed to death, that means that reflect bug bypasses the Endless Hunger node. That's rough. Also, regarding weird interactions, I recently learnt the hard way that even if you have corpse removal (with the axe mastery for example), beyond bosses' corpses aren't removed because of their special death animation. As their corpse can be detonated, I got killed by a rare mob next to him that had the detonate archnem modifier, which detonated the beyond boss corpse the frame after its death animation was over. That's something most of you probably know already, but I didn't until it happened. In that game, even when you think you're safe, there's always an interaction you didn't think about that will get you killed.
fairly sure he hadn't picked that slayer node
usually he plays endless hunger when tainted pact, this time he didn't and so he died
For 3 days I was wondering, why the hell I'm dying all the time when vuln curse is on me...
if you go 1handed you can use apep's shield to turn bleed to chaos dmg, or spec the node for slayer bleed immunity...
Do you not have Endless Hunger? Or did your leech run out?
Boneshatter Slayer doesn't seem suitable for hc if you die the moment your leech runs out.
did you even watch before commenting
@@Ada-jn5ms Yes. He says it's due to the combination of his boots (The Red Trail) and Vulnerability, which caused bleed to apply to him. But with Endless Hunger you won't be affected by bleed so long as you are leeching. He didn't mention wether he's using Endless Hunger nor why bleed should not affect him normally. There's also no PoB, so instead I ask the question here.
@@voswouter87 it's not that bleed shouldn't affect him, but more so him being able to generally outheal it. it's the bleed getting reflected that killed him, because the damage is much higher than what bleeds normally do
he didn't have endless hunger on this setup, usually he does. kind of silly to say slayer isn't suitable for HC when carn has already killed all ubers on it SSFHC. even jugg's regen will drop off if you're not hitting things, difference is slayer hits 2 worms and is leeching like 4khp per second for the next 8 seconds, jugg drops regen the second your trauma falls off.@@voswouter87
That sucks, sry you ripped like that dude
literally so unlucky... o7
Corrupted implicit : bleed cannot be inflected to you :)
BLEED? Are you sure about that? Or meybe corrupted blood?
@@TheMrApotamkin rings have bleed, jewels have corrupted blood
@@TheMrApotamkin You can get it on ring like Death Rush for exemple
damn that's awful
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