Note: I made the classic mistake of mentioning _any_ prices in a poe video. This is arguably THE most SSF friendly build in the game. You can craft a similar axe for only a couple divines or just Rog (and it doesn't matter much since most damage comes from trauma stacks), anything else is incidental. My mistake for saying any price in the video in the first place, it wasn't the point of the video at all and I'm just going to be more careful about editing anything like that out in the future.
You made some very good points regarding Panopticon, but you never touched on the mastery that allows you to benefit from the buffs from the totems for 3 seconds after they are summoned. This means you can drop them every now and then as you map to maintain their buffs, and it essentially allows you to have some free damage scaling early on. It does ofc come with some extra frustration and Boneshatter has enough buttons for the average player, but that mastery allows Panopticon to be a general buff, not just a boss buff. If you are pathing to Panopticon, instead of anointing it, you should take the mastery.
The really weird thing is almost everyone is playing boneshatter wrong also. It should be played as a selfcurse temp chains build to extend the duration of the stacks for much higher damage. There badly needs to be other melee skills that are as good as boneshatter, most peoples favourite league was legion and for good reason, it simply allowed everyone to pick any melee skill. It did quickly turn into cyclone league but I mean... cyclone is prob the most fun skill in poe so, giving people a chance to play it for once, ofc almost everyone took it.
Idk as a somewhat poe noob who has to copy every single build to be able to not suck past tier 14 maps i think a price reference is good. Any player who played for 1-2 leagues knows that prices just spike due to inflation so this is still a good measure price for "league starter" obviously its not going to have the same cost throughout the whole league, because inflation but thats okay. its just a reference. keep it as is. I know a lot of streamers dont use any reference at all for prices and seriously it sucks for someone like me. If i go into a build blind thinking i can afford it and it costs 20-50+ divines im not going to be able to afford it before i run out of patience and quit the game. Which happend a lot to me before. so please. keep the price reference. it helps. Nobody wants to invest a lot of time only to be shot in the nuts with "you suck git good not rich enough or experienced enough" thx for the video
i havent played many leagues, returning player.. will go for Boneshatter Jugg (getting a new beefy pc.. my potato R9 270x i5 just couldnt handle PoE anymore...) is there different variations of the build.. i mean is there must have core gear wich is needed... there seems to be many different variations of the build on poe ninja...
Playing boneshatter is one of the best feeling builds for me. Jumping into a pack and hearing the POP sound is orgasmic to me. Also it just feels so good to hit mobs with big axe. feels interactive
I'm dumbfounded why is Boneshatter so popular because it's literally number 1 worst looking skill in the game, it's literally an autoattack. How can anyone enjoy that even if it has good damage? I'm a die hard melee player and I never played boneshatter and I never will.
@@Roadrunner_KZSK It's a hopium skill. Melee is many times worse than non-melee atm, and some people don't mind it. It's actually not even a great skill either. Only one person had gotten Ubers done in the race on melee (and it was Boneshatter) until after 90 days in.
@@Arccanos yet players are deep delving and doing just fine? Your point doesn't stand when people can play the skill and have fun. You can do non Ubers , and everything in the game with maybe 2m DPS, it's not hard. Not everyone needs to 300 Ms with 100m + DPS to accomplish anything. And I was referring not to tota but to the previous league. But yes I'm new here with 3k hours. Good luck on your league
"you scale buttons as a melee", damn as a melee main i really felt that one. also btw for the totem setup, only one of your totems need to be linked to multi totems, that can be important when you use vaal ancestral warchief so you don't use both charges at once.
i played melee only once in harvest and i only now i realized i can have both totems for buffs. Jesus im stupid. I used to 6 link one totem as a "damage over time" kinda effect and have main skill on a two-hander.
This was by far my favorite build ever. I've only failed to do uber maven but still enjoyed it a lot. One of the reasons I liked it a lot was it didn't use a thousand cluster jewels and uniques. You can pretty much craft everything yourself.
Loving the idea of seeing you try different archetypes that you can exlpore and share with us. I think your style of content makes it very interesting! :)
There is an upside to pathing to Panopticon... the Mastery. There's a Mastery which causes buffs from Ancestor Totems to linger for some time, which lets you keep them up much easier during bosses (like you would've had them during most of that Uber Shaper clip)
Just as a recommendation, Divergent Boneshatter gains 1% attack speed per trauma stack (at 20% quality) as well as the extra phys damage from trauma having "breakpoints." At level 8 you gain 3% more damage per trauma, but it doesn't hit 4% until 20. The physical damage taken per trauma at 8 is only 31, while 20 is 194 per stack. Ideally, you could stack more trauma with higher attack speed, scaling the "more damage" higher, though the flat physical you gain from the skill would cap at 31-58, as opposed to 158 to 238. Also, I remember I think a few leagues ago where people were running self-curse with Anomalous Boneshatter on Berserkers and bringing servers to their knees with how much they could stack attack speed. Now, of course, they've eliminated the infinite attack speed interaction, but you can still easily hit 10+ attacks per second with a 2 handed mace. Combined with Trypanon (replica too) and crit multi stacking, along with rage, blitz charges and some flat damage items/jewels, you could make a monster that just wiggles a little to kill things.
Great video, you've been popping up in my feed quite a bit for 3.20 and 3.21, finally hit that sub button because I really enjoy that you went "outside your wheelhouse" and still dropped an absolute banger this late in the league. I haven't touched Boneshatter at all, as I try to avoid the meta as much as I can, but I may just have to give it a try in case they hit it with the nerf bat next league.
Celestial boneshatter also looks so nice when you pop a screenwide pulse. Sometimes a nice aesthetic can really augment the enjoyment of playing a skill. I don't really like Boneshatter in trade league, there are better feeling starters. But it's a powerhouse in SSF. It gets you to max atlas completion so fast. I think Aspect of Carnage Forbidden Jewels are a really nice fit for Boneshatter. You're tanky enough to absord the 10% increased damage taken and the 40% more damage makes a huge difference for single target. Also, you can use Inexorable on the tree for Endurance charges, it keeps you at max charges permanently.
Holy crap. I went for a Boneshatter Slayer back when Curcible started but then became inactive. I just got back into the game and your character seems so insanely more powerful, even though I invested more than 6 Div
Also, a large thread of hope can give you Panopticon and some other really damn good nodes for boneshatter. Panopticon, hatchet master, art of the gladiator, mana flows, spirit void, master of the arena, rampart and iron reflexes. Also, CWDT can sustain blood rage in most cases.
Because other melee skills are simply garbage + there is no creators(youtubers )who you can really trust ESPECIALLY for melee. The only person who is good and tries to pob some slam builds every league is quantrik
It's great ls cuz fast gearing, ez upgrades. The way to get dmg is to go divergent bonezone and ashes with high pdr. Suppress cap very hard to get( recommend crafting on hybrid armour/eva max roll suppress bases). End of week 1 was doing all content, all ubers etc
you can use skills in the "hidden" slots by seting the keybinds directly, especially useful for cecromancers who in genreral have even more buttons than fingers
You're pathing right past the fortify cluster. Fit "melee hits fortify" from the fortify mastery into your passive tree. Replace fortify support with rage support or another support gem that grants 30%+ more damage. It's more reliable against bosses and stun immune enemies. Plus, it simply deals more damage this way since fortify support only offers 19% more damage vs other %more support gems that offer more.
You hit the nail on the head for the problems with melee builds: totems and panopticon. Its pretty much required on every melee build and feels so bad to play.
Honest opinion, I played boneshatter and then Elemental Dot and now Detonate Dead. Melee damage output is just abysmal. Out of all the playthroughs, boneshatter was the most tedious. Melee damage needs serious buffs.
Love everything in the vid. very accurate. Hm..panopticon is amazing. But more importantly you also take the keep totem buffs for 3s after you leave area. You kinda sorta have those buffs near permanently during boss fights. It's beyond nice. You have to think/accept of it as part of the main build. walk to boss, drop totems on its face, leap in and slap. It's part of the build.
This is why I love your videos/twitch. You are willing to try out other builds and admit that you don’t know everything about it. But like your last league start you try out new builds and keep playing with it till it works 👍🏼
Decent clear, kills ALL bosses, roggable gear in all slots, no activating uniques, can do any atlas strategy. Boneshatter is the everman's build, it's a known quantity where you know that it'll never let you down and it's compatible with most of if not all of the chase uniques.
in the video you mention need 3 gem for 2 totem. but if you use vaal version you dont need to use multiple totem. so 1vaal ancestral warchief and 1 normal ancestral protector. it works good when mapping maybe not so much for ubers
As a softcore player, I tried it in SSF last league somewhere mid-league, it is very comfy indeed, but as you mention in the video, single target is lacking. Not even perfect axe will save you, it's just the nature of the skill, you scale it off attack speed and recoup mechanics to sustain trauma stacks. If you attack too fast, you deal to much damage to yourself, so your DPS uptime is gonna drop, because you have to back off to not die lol. Other than that, kinda decent for finishing the Atlas, minus the boss encounters - they are doable, but require some micro management and "know how" on bosses (mechanics, boss ability cooldowns, etc.). I've tried Slayer version though, which is slightly better in mapping, but comes with the downside of having to keep attacking things to leech, you can't just stand afk in the middle of the pack - you will die.
I miss lightning strike being a meta build. Probably the most fun league for me. I like fairly low maintenance to play, but extremely mechanically deep builds. Min/Maxxing Lightning Strike was super fun, and I even used Body Swap support for the meme of making Lightning Strike be Flicker Strike (which actually worked really well).
Something you can add at least early game with no currency that not only adds a ton of damage and utility but also a ton of defenses is utilizing that second 6 link or even just a 4L setup with a Bladestorm Support setup with your Rage+LGOH+PCOC (If trying to scale crit) +Culling+Leech or just about anything else you can think of that adds to the build and you just drop a couple bladestorms on the ground in blood or sand stance (Blood gives us free more attack speed and Sand is very handy for defenses via Blind) and proc tons of extra damage and utility. I've did this on ALOT of melee builds where this is possible and it really does add a lot to the build for nothing currency wise. Hell over half of my most successful melee builds that took to endgame even ubers on a melee starter utilitzed this. This is especially good with Zerker but, Jugg as well as any melee build using a Sword or Axe makes good use of this.
Yeeaaah. People who Market in this game really don't have a good conception of what "budget" means anymore. It's sad. Trying to find builds that work on less than a divine is honestly hard these days.
@@yurei8368 I was mostly joking as the game economy and fa4rming methods changed lot over the years, today u can make many times more currency with the same amount of time.
@@elantonelle Sure, but these days it's expected that you'll just have five, ten, twenty divines to toss onto your "league starter" build within a day or two of league start. For a lot of players, they're lucky if they accrue that kind of currency throughout their entire league. Builds that are designed to scale into red maps and be general content clearing options for less than a div are basically gone, and it honestly sucks.
Problem with meta builds is that, even if we have 100s of possible skill combos, nobody use them anymore and they become forgotten until a streamer revives them. My suggestion: find old meta builds and check if they are still playable: cyclone as melee and not coc generator, volatile dead, etc. I know some builds have been nerfed, but are they still playable? As I never got to do bosses and am stuck at t16, would also appreciate simple 1 or 2 button builds suggestions for next league. I usually play minions or totems because i have aiming difficulties and cant zoomzoom maps. Tried RF this league but started getti g bit boring after a while. Thank you for content and feedback. Have a great day. PS: if anyone has simple build build suggestions, or easy to follow content creators I would be grateful. Love seeing build ideas but regret that following them is not possible due to button smash or exceeding my few divines budget (more than 10 divines is usually already too much...). Thank you.
My only gripe with this build is running into Exploding Purple Archnemesis while leveling,when u still have no chaos res and getting 1shotted because of poor visibility.
Same thoughts. I am a melee fan, made bone shatter mid league with high Investment but like you said , hits a wall hard . There’s no way to scale It properly and the slow ramp on trauma stacks just takes off so much time for big bosses uptime
Boneshatter is easily my favorite league starter. Personally I prefer slayer, but when I tried jugg it was good too. One thing I did want to point out is I think your axe is more than 5 divs on its own, probably more than 10 divs for the base and to craft, but you can do t16 maps with like a 500pdps axe too. fractured bases are just really hard to come by early league, I was looking every day for fractured bases this league start on despot or ezomyte axes and there were just almost none available that had fractured t2 or t1 hybrid phys or %inc phys. Like you said you can rog craft something like this, but there is a good chance you won't get an axe this good quickly. Just wanted to let people know because I was surprised at how hard it was to find a good axe base to craft on this league start
Yeah i did carns slayer version. Was super good, for being melee. Was never close of killing myself. Didnt regret, and quite enjoyed it. Didnt even min max a lot. And got the job done as a starter build. Boneshatter is gg
@@lunargwen did everything with it. Red maps, finished Atlas. All that i needed to get me started. Then i moved on to bows, cuz i wanted to be rsnged and shit. But still, boneshatter is good, if they don't nerf it next league.
I managed to push my boneshatter (carn's build as well) as far as I could without spending mirrors on it (might have spent about 100div+ on it thorough 2 months). I did most of the challenges without buying them, except uber bosses - managed to kill only Sirus and Shaper, while exarch, eater and Maven were out of my reach.
you missed the one mastery where monsters killed by your hits are destroyed - it adds a similar pop to the enemies like herald of ice just without the mass aoe its not much, its not needed but it adds just satisfaction you did not expect
"Can I tank this?" Is the epitome of juggernaut appeal. I am always looking for the most ridiculous damage to try and ignore. Sadly, as you say there are usually ones you cannot ignore as jugg, and they are usually the "you have no/ignores physical damage reduction" and no regen/recovery. Every time I wandered through a map only to be randomly oneshot by some turd with overwhelms phys while im at 90 phys I think "why did I even bother investing in this?". I think that "phys taken as" is the play until that level of total defense invalidation goes away and that makes most of the jugg ascendancy irrelevant.
It's easy it was meta because cArn, and Imexile and every other racer played Boneshatter in the 3.20 gauntlet up to lvl 98 or what ever. This is easily the #1 reason. Then every streamer said Boneshatter was good including Ben. They said it was the only good melee build. It's also the only melee build you can do endgame with a 4 socket weapon and 4 socket chest. There is your answer.
in gauntlet they all played SRS champion. Carn ONLY plays boneshatter slayer no matter what. hes OTP's that. But all the racers have shown how powerful it is like ben doing uber sirus on a 1 link boneshatter etc.
It's precisely for the reason you mentioned regarding Boneshatter's lack of scalability that the Slayer version is superior Imho. Not because Slayer Boneshatter is better than Juggernaut, it's not. It's because Slayer can transition into a different build like say Starforge/Voidforge Cyclone once you've farmed a bunch of currency, and for those other heavy duty melee builds Slayer is indeed vastly superior to Juggernaut. With that said Boneshatter itself is perhaps the best way to fully utilize the Juggernaut ascendancy by turning its vast defenses into offense and making for both a very tanky(for most content in the game) and very high damage too, which is a pretty rare combination. Righteous Fire for example is well known as the most tanky build in the game but it also has very low damage for the investment. Other builds typically make a choice between damage and tankiness, sacrificing one for the other. Since Boneshatter uses its defenses for damage(hitting yourself for trauma stacks) you don't choose between defense and offense but rather build defense in order to maximize your offense. Still, it will never reach the damage numbers of those builds that do sacrifice defense for offense but I daresay with smart investment it can get tankier than even righteous fire as you can stack quite a lot of max elemental resistances(from skill tree including some masteries as well as items like The Brass Dome) to give you insane physical and elemental damage mitigation. You also have enough room to put chaos resistance in there for good(but not great) chaos mitigation to boot.
I’ve been trying to find something like this for the archetype of wanders. I haven’t seen too many people talking about them besides corrupting fever and cast on crit. So it would be cool to see your take on it.
Should be noted there are also other versions of this build. You can go Brass Dome for a relatively cheap GIGA tank, thats what I did and got about 16mil dps on a 5 div axe. If you want to scale beyond god himself I've seen people build Stasis Prison and get 400 trauma stacks and push near a billion DPS so it can scale if you really want it to. Additionaly you don't really need multi totem support; Vaal ancestral warcheif has +1 totems on it so when your fighting a boss you spawn the vaal version and the protector. Abusing crucible i was later able to craft a 1800 DPS axe that had a free fortify support that bumped my damage over 40mil but that's not always gonna be achievable on my style of build depending on the league, but i was able to fight uber bosses on about half a second of ping. IMO the build is perfect, cheap enough to league start and cruise to red teir maps and stong enough to let a bad player like me face the hardest challenges the game has to offer with some investment. Oh and the only time dots were a problem for me was when i was messing around in pvp and a rightous fire build said no to all the fire res i had stacked
Divergent Boneshatter can have excellent single target at high investment. I have around 300k hit pool which makes me able to get to around 300 trauma stacks without dying. At 300 stacks I have about 100m dps, and I still have a lot of ideas for making me able to reach 400-500 stacks.
@@lunargwen Depends a lot on the boss. Eater can take a while cause I have to move and I loose my trauma stacks. But I can phase Uber Shaper in no more than 1 minute. It's not as fast as some builds, but I can face-tank all his abilities including the Uber Shaper balls.
looking at the chieftain rework, it seems like it might be a decent way to do it, you lose some armor and as, but you can run 90% all res and 40 or 60% phys damage taken as fire, which offsets not having armor for ele damage by quite a lot and it works for dots, we also get less pressure on suffixes which gives the opportunity to get a decent amount of chaos res, and it can free up the amulet as we don't need to scale accuracy that much, so we can go for a 3/0/0 leadership's price and maybe crit, or just an amulet with decent stats. edit: with some very rough calculations using an approximation of chieftain rework with dawnbreaker/cloak of flames with a reasonable 1h, you lose around half the damage for double the tankiness. though the early gearing is probably easier as a chieftain.
well it has 200 base physical damage (most skills dont have any. elemental skills have around 100. cyclone has 35) and has the stack mechanic for more damage which is easily 40-80% more damage. the way small hits work you dont even need much armour to 90% reduce the self damage you take. with determination and armour gear you take 200 self damage on hit but it turns out you can easily abuse this self inflicted damage for your own benefit to perma trigger "when hit recently" effects. or use cast when damage taken. imagine they buff cyclone from 28-42 physical damage to 150-250 and give "deals 15% more damage per second you channel up to 75% more damage" then cyclone would only be as strong as boneshatter is right now, probably still way less because people use boneshatter in endgame builds to scale the trauma stacks way higher and also cyclone has 300% attack speed and 59% attack damage so 177% effective damage and boneshatter has 85% attack speed and 250% attack damage so 212,5% effective damage (20% more)
They should impliment a support gem, "cast TotemSkill while a rare or unique enemy is nerby" or if you "hit a rare or uniqe enemy with a melee weapon" or something.
I don't think it's the defenses. For me, it and RF are just the best starter because it's essentially able to safely speed clear T16s with garbage you found while leveling. Literally zero investment. A lot of that comes from spending a huge amount of points in defense, and so all of your investment after that is going to be getting damage, but neither of them are really bossers. I don't think most people stick around in a league long enough to make a bosser, and most of the good bossers are terrible without 20+ divines and most of them are not SSF viable. The average person wants to just play the game, by themselves, maybe with a couple of friends, have fun, and then move on. If trade is involved, even if it's just a couple of divines, the build is trash.
It would be fun to explore the builds that the least amount of people are playing. There's so much bloat on YT for the popular builds, like Boneshatter, Hexblast Mines, Explosive Arrow, etc. But there aren't enough people exploring the really niche builds that might end up being very fun.
Another factor it is good is that you don't need other support like Melee Splash or Ancestral Call. It truly is a stupid skill. Imagine every melee single target skill has this built-in features, every melee skill would feel so much better.
so many people WANT to play melee, but (i forget when exactly) we recently got a reply ' only a small percentage of players play melee so we dont focus on it' im paraphrasing, but it means that theyre not realising the underlying issue, thinking that melee isnt popular. sadly the functionality of poe is meta builds and guides, new players/casual players will go for the more popular more advertised builds, and avoid melee due to the meme of melee is dead.
After watching that Uber Elder encounter i understand why there is a Reason cArn goes Slayer instead, the 20% cull its a must if youre playing Boneshatter and rushing to do Ubers.
WOW ! Ty for the vid. Its my first league i got a Mage blood and i allways wanted to deep delve.... Here i am , currently at 800 depth i really need someone to explain deep delve and some build questions. Its hard to buy anything this late in league...If anyone with a boneshatter delve char is reading this... pls sell me your stuff and teach me deep delve secrets. :D
Boneshatter is the #1 deep delve build this league too. With the correct (non-traditional) setup, it can scale almost infinite damage and infinite regen with good gear.
On the caveat that it's a non-functional build for mapping or bossing as it requires reaching a substantially large amount of trauma stacks while standing in the aura range of various mines. At least the fully minmaxed build I saw that had the highest depth. Phase run to node, ramp up -> clear node -> get rewards while stacks fall off -> repeat.
As a new POE player, is, “you can get to this point in about a week.”, a week of farming 7 straight days for 18 hours a day, or a casual, “I work 3-4 twelve hour days a week and I can get to that point in my weekend off casually farming?
Bone shatter is the best melee skill because it have the best dps, good attack speed, good damage scaling with supoort gems, can stun, lowest mana cost on all melee red gem and build in splash. It just simply the best melee skill option, no other red, green gem can compete with boneshatter. Jugg is just an add-on for the skill that why some people play slayer. (Berserker simply dont have the survivability for the self damage aspect of boneshatter and champion is just the worst verion of jugg for boneshatter)
i dont know, things like uber shaper and uber uber elder were never a problem for me when i played back in sanctum (mageblood). I was doing a tempered by war set up (90% max fire res) so the only thing that was dangerous for me was Uber maven with the regen removal.
Cuz ppl love melee and it’s one of the only good melee skills lol Edit: the state of melee in poe is pretty bad though. Every build uses the same totems, rage, and berserk
Because it's easy and cheap and simple to deal good single and aoe, good defense, good offense, versatile, on hit mechanics for free. Just an awesome skill at any budget
How do you play that slow guy? He was so difficult to play in acts. Not saying about single-targets, acts bosses. So a slayer was like a fresh breathe for me.
They're surprisingly different builds for their similarities, but do similarly well at most things. RF Jugg is a "walking simulator", you don't need to press many buttons outside of movement skills, and the damage just kinda happens. For lots of people that isn't as much fun since they don't feel like "they're" killing the mobs, but just as many people enjoy playing like essentially a lawnmower. Neither will be the most fun for bossing but Boneshatter is usually going to be a better option at equal levels of investment.
I refuse to play melee since 40% of melee dps became having the totems on. Fun fact, during 3.20 announcement stream Q&A Chris said they want to untie totems and melee, despite 3.20 introducing a mastery making totem buffs linger for 3 seconds but 3.21 went with total radio silence regarding this topic.
Watch the following video. Also this is a different league with a different economy. You can't watch a year old video and claim the prices are wrong like that. Every league is dramatically different.
As a bone shatter player I did literally every boss and champion bosses no maven, it’s fun till you kill pinnacle bosses and then you might get stuck on 700-1000k dps, the only bad thing about the build is the dot you die from, and that made me reroll.
I tried the build and its main benefit wsa that it really is pretty fun to play. UNfortunately it was not for me since it just has so many map mods that I cant really handle without god tier gear compared to ranged builds that can work around even pretty bad mods. I am someone that normally doesnt really look at my map mods and just die or kite around when the occaional bad mod pops up but with boneshatter you cant really do that since there are to many that destroy the build.
Boneshatter is really the only melee skill that is fun and works like a melee skill should in an ARPG. Think of it as the Hammer of the Ancients for PoE.
I know the new chieftain tree looks bad but what about bone shatter chieftan. You can do full conversion to ele and easily get 85% res to whatever ele you wanna convert too. That basically negates the self damage completely on top of the whole free lvl 30 ancestral call. Regen would have to be solved via the tree though, just a random thought. Jugg is still super strong though.
You missing out popular among Melee build (which all melee only account for 10% playerbase). The reason is it's viable with less investment than many other melee skill that need huge investment. Spell still win 100% of the time. Boneshatter have higher damage potential due to trauma. That is it. Cyclone is QOL moving while attack or CoC, Flicker does need a big investment. Other melee? maybe occupy 1% .
one build being 10% of ALL builds, especially across HC and HCSSF, is a big deal. it's not just popular among melee, it's the most popular build PERIOD in certain circumstances which is special.
ty for showing why i still never played melee builds in POE :) maybe in poe 2 i gonna try some melee if they rework the whole playstyle and defences :)
Note: I made the classic mistake of mentioning _any_ prices in a poe video. This is arguably THE most SSF friendly build in the game. You can craft a similar axe for only a couple divines or just Rog (and it doesn't matter much since most damage comes from trauma stacks), anything else is incidental. My mistake for saying any price in the video in the first place, it wasn't the point of the video at all and I'm just going to be more careful about editing anything like that out in the future.
Also, video proof of crafting a similar axe: ruclips.net/video/uoC7lbU27Es/видео.html
You made some very good points regarding Panopticon, but you never touched on the mastery that allows you to benefit from the buffs from the totems for 3 seconds after they are summoned. This means you can drop them every now and then as you map to maintain their buffs, and it essentially allows you to have some free damage scaling early on.
It does ofc come with some extra frustration and Boneshatter has enough buttons for the average player, but that mastery allows Panopticon to be a general buff, not just a boss buff. If you are pathing to Panopticon, instead of anointing it, you should take the mastery.
The really weird thing is almost everyone is playing boneshatter wrong also. It should be played as a selfcurse temp chains build to extend the duration of the stacks for much higher damage. There badly needs to be other melee skills that are as good as boneshatter, most peoples favourite league was legion and for good reason, it simply allowed everyone to pick any melee skill. It did quickly turn into cyclone league but I mean... cyclone is prob the most fun skill in poe so, giving people a chance to play it for once, ofc almost everyone took it.
Idk as a somewhat poe noob who has to copy every single build to be able to not suck past tier 14 maps i think a price reference is good.
Any player who played for 1-2 leagues knows that prices just spike due to inflation so this is still a good measure price for "league starter"
obviously its not going to have the same cost throughout the whole league, because inflation but thats okay. its just a reference. keep it as is.
I know a lot of streamers dont use any reference at all for prices and seriously it sucks for someone like me.
If i go into a build blind thinking i can afford it and it costs 20-50+ divines im not going to be able to afford it before i run out of patience and quit the game.
Which happend a lot to me before. so please. keep the price reference. it helps.
Nobody wants to invest a lot of time only to be shot in the nuts with "you suck git good not rich enough or experienced enough"
thx for the video
i havent played many leagues, returning player.. will go for Boneshatter Jugg (getting a new beefy pc.. my potato R9 270x i5 just couldnt handle PoE anymore...)
is there different variations of the build.. i mean is there must have core gear wich is needed...
there seems to be many different variations of the build on poe ninja...
Playing boneshatter is one of the best feeling builds for me. Jumping into a pack and hearing the POP sound is orgasmic to me. Also it just feels so good to hit mobs with big axe. feels interactive
That pop sound is definitely cathartic...it's one of the biggest reasons I played popcorn bleed bow builds when they were still viable
@@kazumablackwing4270 that popcorn sound is best, trully sad bleed bow glad isnt viable any more without brutal investment :(
@@clowns_krusty3065 mbextreme started bleed bow glad like league or two ago or smth like that it was fine I guess
@@clowns_krusty3065 there were insights that glad is going to get some love in 3.22, let's hope
I share the same sentiment with ice shot, never liked the switch to TS just for the sound fx
Boneshatter is only popular because it's essentially the only melee skill that is not 4-10x weaker than other non-melee skills.
I'm dumbfounded why is Boneshatter so popular because it's literally number 1 worst looking skill in the game, it's literally an autoattack. How can anyone enjoy that even if it has good damage? I'm a die hard melee player and I never played boneshatter and I never will.
@@Roadrunner_KZSK It's a hopium skill. Melee is many times worse than non-melee atm, and some people don't mind it. It's actually not even a great skill either. Only one person had gotten Ubers done in the race on melee (and it was Boneshatter) until after 90 days in.
And Carn still won while using Slayer Boneshatter. So what's the excuse that these so great other skill doing 4-10 x the damage couldn't keep up ?
@@Countlesshours No legitimate racer was racing. Same reason Carn took 90+ DAYS to complete Ubers in Ancestor league. You new here?
@@Arccanos yet players are deep delving and doing just fine? Your point doesn't stand when people can play the skill and have fun. You can do non Ubers , and everything in the game with maybe 2m DPS, it's not hard. Not everyone needs to 300 Ms with 100m + DPS to accomplish anything. And I was referring not to tota but to the previous league. But yes I'm new here with 3k hours. Good luck on your league
"you scale buttons as a melee", damn as a melee main i really felt that one.
also btw for the totem setup, only one of your totems need to be linked to multi totems, that can be important when you use vaal ancestral warchief so you don't use both charges at once.
Interesting, thanks for that.
i played melee only once in harvest and i only now i realized i can have both totems for buffs. Jesus im stupid.
I used to 6 link one totem as a "damage over time" kinda effect and have main skill on a two-hander.
This was by far my favorite build ever. I've only failed to do uber maven but still enjoyed it a lot.
One of the reasons I liked it a lot was it didn't use a thousand cluster jewels and uniques. You can pretty much craft everything yourself.
Loving the idea of seeing you try different archetypes that you can exlpore and share with us. I think your style of content makes it very interesting! :)
There is an upside to pathing to Panopticon... the Mastery. There's a Mastery which causes buffs from Ancestor Totems to linger for some time, which lets you keep them up much easier during bosses (like you would've had them during most of that Uber Shaper clip)
These deep dive videos on mechanics are amazing sub - keep up the good work. Can't wait for 3.22!
Boneshatter is the only truly competetive melee skill, people love melee and want more of it
Just as a recommendation, Divergent Boneshatter gains 1% attack speed per trauma stack (at 20% quality) as well as the extra phys damage from trauma having "breakpoints." At level 8 you gain 3% more damage per trauma, but it doesn't hit 4% until 20. The physical damage taken per trauma at 8 is only 31, while 20 is 194 per stack. Ideally, you could stack more trauma with higher attack speed, scaling the "more damage" higher, though the flat physical you gain from the skill would cap at 31-58, as opposed to 158 to 238.
Also, I remember I think a few leagues ago where people were running self-curse with Anomalous Boneshatter on Berserkers and bringing servers to their knees with how much they could stack attack speed. Now, of course, they've eliminated the infinite attack speed interaction, but you can still easily hit 10+ attacks per second with a 2 handed mace. Combined with Trypanon (replica too) and crit multi stacking, along with rage, blitz charges and some flat damage items/jewels, you could make a monster that just wiggles a little to kill things.
Divergent not anomalous
@@johnmurray1207 whoops, you're right.
Great video, you've been popping up in my feed quite a bit for 3.20 and 3.21, finally hit that sub button because I really enjoy that you went "outside your wheelhouse" and still dropped an absolute banger this late in the league. I haven't touched Boneshatter at all, as I try to avoid the meta as much as I can, but I may just have to give it a try in case they hit it with the nerf bat next league.
Doubt boneshatter will be nerfed but you should def give it a go
Celestial boneshatter also looks so nice when you pop a screenwide pulse. Sometimes a nice aesthetic can really augment the enjoyment of playing a skill. I don't really like Boneshatter in trade league, there are better feeling starters. But it's a powerhouse in SSF. It gets you to max atlas completion so fast. I think Aspect of Carnage Forbidden Jewels are a really nice fit for Boneshatter. You're tanky enough to absord the 10% increased damage taken and the 40% more damage makes a huge difference for single target. Also, you can use Inexorable on the tree for Endurance charges, it keeps you at max charges permanently.
Holy crap. I went for a Boneshatter Slayer back when Curcible started but then became inactive. I just got back into the game and your character seems so insanely more powerful, even though I invested more than 6 Div
thats because 6 div at the start of the league is 10 times more than at the end
cuz jugger ascendancy gives you stat wich is needed for trauma, armor stuffs
"Most people are just sick of dying". Pretty much sums it up.
I think it is not dying itself. It is because you don't see it and all of a sudden you get one shotted by a white bat, goatman or porcupine 😂
Also, a large thread of hope can give you Panopticon and some other really damn good nodes for boneshatter. Panopticon, hatchet master, art of the gladiator, mana flows, spirit void, master of the arena, rampart and iron reflexes.
Also, CWDT can sustain blood rage in most cases.
thread is pointless when the masteries are really good
0:59 Bonezone and Gaping Holes, name a more iconic duo.
I would like to mention that Havoc made a Jug boneshatter 0-50 build guide for the last gauntlet (3.20).
I so miss the self curse/mantra of flames version of this. The amount of damage you could get in a big tanky pack was amazing.
Righteous fire is magicc thicc boi
Boneshatter is physiccal thicc boi
I think that's it
Why is Boneshatter popular? Simple : because people make starter guides for it.
So few melee builds get guides and so many players like the archetype.
Because other melee skills are simply garbage + there is no creators(youtubers )who you can really trust ESPECIALLY for melee. The only person who is good and tries to pob some slam builds every league is quantrik
It's great ls cuz fast gearing, ez upgrades. The way to get dmg is to go divergent bonezone and ashes with high pdr. Suppress cap very hard to get( recommend crafting on hybrid armour/eva max roll suppress bases). End of week 1 was doing all content, all ubers etc
Cost to self craft?
welcome to the Bone Zone ™
*Guitar riff* 😂 delocated was great
you can use skills in the "hidden" slots by seting the keybinds directly, especially useful for cecromancers who in genreral have even more buttons than fingers
I would recommend grabbing panopticon on the tree so you can grab ancestral buff linger, it feels so nice
Dawnstriders for boots if you don't want to spend the points
You're pathing right past the fortify cluster. Fit "melee hits fortify" from the fortify mastery into your passive tree. Replace fortify support with rage support or another support gem that grants 30%+ more damage. It's more reliable against bosses and stun immune enemies. Plus, it simply deals more damage this way since fortify support only offers 19% more damage vs other %more support gems that offer more.
You hit the nail on the head for the problems with melee builds: totems and panopticon. Its pretty much required on every melee build and feels so bad to play.
It's popular because people actually do want to play melee (GGG in shock), so when it's somewhat viable with only one build people flock to it
Honest opinion, I played boneshatter and then Elemental Dot and now Detonate Dead.
Melee damage output is just abysmal. Out of all the playthroughs, boneshatter was the most tedious.
Melee damage needs serious buffs.
Sadly we are reaching a point where if a build doesnt kill uber bosses in 5 seconds it considered a "bad build"
Love everything in the vid. very accurate.
Hm..panopticon is amazing. But more importantly you also take the keep totem buffs for 3s after you leave area.
You kinda sorta have those buffs near permanently during boss fights. It's beyond nice. You have to think/accept of it as part of the main build.
walk to boss, drop totems on its face, leap in and slap. It's part of the build.
This is why I love your videos/twitch. You are willing to try out other builds and admit that you don’t know everything about it. But like your last league start you try out new builds and keep playing with it till it works 👍🏼
Decent clear, kills ALL bosses, roggable gear in all slots, no activating uniques, can do any atlas strategy. Boneshatter is the everman's build, it's a known quantity where you know that it'll never let you down and it's compatible with most of if not all of the chase uniques.
in the video you mention need 3 gem for 2 totem. but if you use vaal version you dont need to use multiple totem. so 1vaal ancestral warchief and 1 normal ancestral protector. it works good when mapping maybe not so much for ubers
As a softcore player, I tried it in SSF last league somewhere mid-league, it is very comfy indeed, but as you mention in the video, single target is lacking. Not even perfect axe will save you, it's just the nature of the skill, you scale it off attack speed and recoup mechanics to sustain trauma stacks. If you attack too fast, you deal to much damage to yourself, so your DPS uptime is gonna drop, because you have to back off to not die lol. Other than that, kinda decent for finishing the Atlas, minus the boss encounters - they are doable, but require some micro management and "know how" on bosses (mechanics, boss ability cooldowns, etc.). I've tried Slayer version though, which is slightly better in mapping, but comes with the downside of having to keep attacking things to leech, you can't just stand afk in the middle of the pack - you will die.
Thanks - I had heard about this build, but I never looked into it. Looks pretty slick.
I miss lightning strike being a meta build. Probably the most fun league for me. I like fairly low maintenance to play, but extremely mechanically deep builds. Min/Maxxing Lightning Strike was super fun, and I even used Body Swap support for the meme of making Lightning Strike be Flicker Strike (which actually worked really well).
Something you can add at least early game with no currency that not only adds a ton of damage and utility but also a ton of defenses is utilizing that second 6 link or even just a 4L setup with a Bladestorm Support setup with your Rage+LGOH+PCOC (If trying to scale crit) +Culling+Leech or just about anything else you can think of that adds to the build and you just drop a couple bladestorms on the ground in blood or sand stance (Blood gives us free more attack speed and Sand is very handy for defenses via Blind) and proc tons of extra damage and utility. I've did this on ALOT of melee builds where this is possible and it really does add a lot to the build for nothing currency wise. Hell over half of my most successful melee builds that took to endgame even ubers on a melee starter utilitzed this. This is especially good with Zerker but, Jugg as well as any melee build using a Sword or Axe makes good use of this.
back in mah day, budget use to be less than 10 c. Now it costs nearly 900 c (according to 1 180c per divine price) to do a "budget" build...
Yeeaaah. People who Market in this game really don't have a good conception of what "budget" means anymore. It's sad. Trying to find builds that work on less than a divine is honestly hard these days.
@@yurei8368 I was mostly joking as the game economy and fa4rming methods changed lot over the years, today u can make many times more currency with the same amount of time.
@@yurei8368every league starter works on less than a divine lol
@@elantonelle Sure, but these days it's expected that you'll just have five, ten, twenty divines to toss onto your "league starter" build within a day or two of league start. For a lot of players, they're lucky if they accrue that kind of currency throughout their entire league. Builds that are designed to scale into red maps and be general content clearing options for less than a div are basically gone, and it honestly sucks.
@@yurei8368 there are multiple braindead farming strats that generate atleast 3 div an hour, thats 3-7 hours of farming
Problem with meta builds is that, even if we have 100s of possible skill combos, nobody use them anymore and they become forgotten until a streamer revives them.
My suggestion: find old meta builds and check if they are still playable: cyclone as melee and not coc generator, volatile dead, etc. I know some builds have been nerfed, but are they still playable?
As I never got to do bosses and am stuck at t16, would also appreciate simple 1 or 2 button builds suggestions for next league. I usually play minions or totems because i have aiming difficulties and cant zoomzoom maps. Tried RF this league but started getti g bit boring after a while.
Thank you for content and feedback.
Have a great day.
PS: if anyone has simple build build suggestions, or easy to follow content creators I would be grateful. Love seeing build ideas but regret that following them is not possible due to button smash or exceeding my few divines budget (more than 10 divines is usually already too much...). Thank you.
This is why i lab fixed all my $$ problems
@@lunargwen how did lab fix your $$ problems? I can't see whats so profitable abt it
My only gripe with this build is running into Exploding Purple Archnemesis while leveling,when u still have no chaos res and getting 1shotted because of poor visibility.
I just can't get the boneshatter jugg tanky enough to feel good on ssf. just feels bad, sure I am doing something wrong I cant find
I think it's so popular because it's one of the only non projectile melee builds that's viable to play without insane investment
Same thoughts. I am a melee fan, made bone shatter mid league with high Investment but like you said , hits a wall hard . There’s no way to scale It properly and the slow ramp on trauma stacks just takes off so much time for big bosses uptime
Boneshatter is easily my favorite league starter. Personally I prefer slayer, but when I tried jugg it was good too. One thing I did want to point out is I think your axe is more than 5 divs on its own, probably more than 10 divs for the base and to craft, but you can do t16 maps with like a 500pdps axe too. fractured bases are just really hard to come by early league, I was looking every day for fractured bases this league start on despot or ezomyte axes and there were just almost none available that had fractured t2 or t1 hybrid phys or %inc phys. Like you said you can rog craft something like this, but there is a good chance you won't get an axe this good quickly. Just wanted to let people know because I was surprised at how hard it was to find a good axe base to craft on this league start
What other fractured work or just those?
@@lunargwenattack speed best but either it or phys%/flat phys.
sub still regularly handing out the much needed poe-fix. thank you sir, much love
Yeah i did carns slayer version. Was super good, for being melee. Was never close of killing myself. Didnt regret, and quite enjoyed it. Didnt even min max a lot. And got the job done as a starter build. Boneshatter is gg
How far did it get?
@@lunargwen did everything with it. Red maps, finished Atlas. All that i needed to get me started. Then i moved on to bows, cuz i wanted to be rsnged and shit. But still, boneshatter is good, if they don't nerf it next league.
I managed to push my boneshatter (carn's build as well) as far as I could without spending mirrors on it (might have spent about 100div+ on it thorough 2 months). I did most of the challenges without buying them, except uber bosses - managed to kill only Sirus and Shaper, while exarch, eater and Maven were out of my reach.
you missed the one mastery where monsters killed by your hits are destroyed - it adds a similar pop to the enemies like herald of ice just without the mass aoe
its not much, its not needed but it adds just satisfaction you did not expect
Thanks for the breakdown, I was always curious about it
like any armour stacking build, it's susceptible to "ignores phys dam reduction" mods on rares, or expedition markers. It's pretty much instant death.
"Can I tank this?" Is the epitome of juggernaut appeal. I am always looking for the most ridiculous damage to try and ignore. Sadly, as you say there are usually ones you cannot ignore as jugg, and they are usually the "you have no/ignores physical damage reduction" and no regen/recovery. Every time I wandered through a map only to be randomly oneshot by some turd with overwhelms phys while im at 90 phys I think "why did I even bother investing in this?". I think that "phys taken as" is the play until that level of total defense invalidation goes away and that makes most of the jugg ascendancy irrelevant.
Never thought of categorizing PoE gems in terms of kink perspective
It's easy it was meta because cArn, and Imexile and every other racer played Boneshatter in the 3.20 gauntlet up to lvl 98 or what ever. This is easily the #1 reason. Then every streamer said Boneshatter was good including Ben. They said it was the only good melee build. It's also the only melee build you can do endgame with a 4 socket weapon and 4 socket chest. There is your answer.
in gauntlet they all played SRS champion. Carn ONLY plays boneshatter slayer no matter what. hes OTP's that. But all the racers have shown how powerful it is like ben doing uber sirus on a 1 link boneshatter etc.
It's precisely for the reason you mentioned regarding Boneshatter's lack of scalability that the Slayer version is superior Imho. Not because Slayer Boneshatter is better than Juggernaut, it's not. It's because Slayer can transition into a different build like say Starforge/Voidforge Cyclone once you've farmed a bunch of currency, and for those other heavy duty melee builds Slayer is indeed vastly superior to Juggernaut. With that said Boneshatter itself is perhaps the best way to fully utilize the Juggernaut ascendancy by turning its vast defenses into offense and making for both a very tanky(for most content in the game) and very high damage too, which is a pretty rare combination. Righteous Fire for example is well known as the most tanky build in the game but it also has very low damage for the investment. Other builds typically make a choice between damage and tankiness, sacrificing one for the other. Since Boneshatter uses its defenses for damage(hitting yourself for trauma stacks) you don't choose between defense and offense but rather build defense in order to maximize your offense. Still, it will never reach the damage numbers of those builds that do sacrifice defense for offense but I daresay with smart investment it can get tankier than even righteous fire as you can stack quite a lot of max elemental resistances(from skill tree including some masteries as well as items like The Brass Dome) to give you insane physical and elemental damage mitigation. You also have enough room to put chaos resistance in there for good(but not great) chaos mitigation to boot.
I’ve been trying to find something like this for the archetype of wanders. I haven’t seen too many people talking about them besides corrupting fever and cast on crit. So it would be cool to see your take on it.
Damn and here I was thinking I actually won and this was gonna be the next video and then the bots got me :(
RUclips content has been great lately despite the POE drought!
Should be noted there are also other versions of this build. You can go Brass Dome for a relatively cheap GIGA tank, thats what I did and got about 16mil dps on a 5 div axe. If you want to scale beyond god himself I've seen people build Stasis Prison and get 400 trauma stacks and push near a billion DPS so it can scale if you really want it to. Additionaly you don't really need multi totem support; Vaal ancestral warcheif has +1 totems on it so when your fighting a boss you spawn the vaal version and the protector. Abusing crucible i was later able to craft a 1800 DPS axe that had a free fortify support that bumped my damage over 40mil but that's not always gonna be achievable on my style of build depending on the league, but i was able to fight uber bosses on about half a second of ping. IMO the build is perfect, cheap enough to league start and cruise to red teir maps and stong enough to let a bad player like me face the hardest challenges the game has to offer with some investment. Oh and the only time dots were a problem for me was when i was messing around in pvp and a rightous fire build said no to all the fire res i had stacked
TIL I like boneshatter because I just want someone to love and take care of me. Dommy mommy tornadoshot sounds kinda fun though.
Divergent Boneshatter can have excellent single target at high investment. I have around 300k hit pool which makes me able to get to around 300 trauma stacks without dying. At 300 stacks I have about 100m dps, and I still have a lot of ideas for making me able to reach 400-500 stacks.
How fast or slow is bossing?
@@lunargwen Depends a lot on the boss. Eater can take a while cause I have to move and I loose my trauma stacks. But I can phase Uber Shaper in no more than 1 minute. It's not as fast as some builds, but I can face-tank all his abilities including the Uber Shaper balls.
looking at the chieftain rework, it seems like it might be a decent way to do it, you lose some armor and as, but you can run 90% all res and 40 or 60% phys damage taken as fire, which offsets not having armor for ele damage by quite a lot and it works for dots, we also get less pressure on suffixes which gives the opportunity to get a decent amount of chaos res, and it can free up the amulet as we don't need to scale accuracy that much, so we can go for a 3/0/0 leadership's price and maybe crit, or just an amulet with decent stats.
edit: with some very rough calculations using an approximation of chieftain rework with dawnbreaker/cloak of flames with a reasonable 1h, you lose around half the damage for double the tankiness.
though the early gearing is probably easier as a chieftain.
I am now even more melee curious :D I can very much see the appeal of this starter even in SC trade.
well it has 200 base physical damage (most skills dont have any. elemental skills have around 100. cyclone has 35) and has the stack mechanic for more damage which is easily 40-80% more damage. the way small hits work you dont even need much armour to 90% reduce the self damage you take. with determination and armour gear you take 200 self damage on hit but it turns out you can easily abuse this self inflicted damage for your own benefit to perma trigger "when hit recently" effects. or use cast when damage taken.
imagine they buff cyclone from 28-42 physical damage to 150-250 and give "deals 15% more damage per second you channel up to 75% more damage"
then cyclone would only be as strong as boneshatter is right now, probably still way less because people use boneshatter in endgame builds to scale the trauma stacks way higher and also cyclone has 300% attack speed and 59% attack damage so 177% effective damage and boneshatter has 85% attack speed and 250% attack damage so 212,5% effective damage (20% more)
Love these types of in-depth videos!
I was melee curious in college, but I really don't talk about that now.
They should impliment a support gem, "cast TotemSkill while a rare or unique enemy is nerby" or if you "hit a rare or uniqe enemy with a melee weapon" or something.
You should def try the Slayer version also. The bonking is even crazier!
But its much less tanky
plus it cant sustain a high number of trauma stacks, a decent build should be able to sustain at least 100 stacks
Please make more of these! They are very fun to watch! ^^
This was my first melee league, I played groundslam instead of boneshatter and absolutely loved it!
I don't think it's the defenses. For me, it and RF are just the best starter because it's essentially able to safely speed clear T16s with garbage you found while leveling. Literally zero investment. A lot of that comes from spending a huge amount of points in defense, and so all of your investment after that is going to be getting damage, but neither of them are really bossers. I don't think most people stick around in a league long enough to make a bosser, and most of the good bossers are terrible without 20+ divines and most of them are not SSF viable. The average person wants to just play the game, by themselves, maybe with a couple of friends, have fun, and then move on. If trade is involved, even if it's just a couple of divines, the build is trash.
Can’t wait for some POE action! Kinda getting over D4 already. It was nice for a quick bit but I want some new love with POE2 coming.
It would be fun to explore the builds that the least amount of people are playing. There's so much bloat on YT for the popular builds, like Boneshatter, Hexblast Mines, Explosive Arrow, etc. But there aren't enough people exploring the really niche builds that might end up being very fun.
Another factor it is good is that you don't need other support like Melee Splash or Ancestral Call. It truly is a stupid skill. Imagine every melee single target skill has this built-in features, every melee skill would feel so much better.
so many people WANT to play melee, but (i forget when exactly) we recently got a reply ' only a small percentage of players play melee so we dont focus on it' im paraphrasing, but it means that theyre not realising the underlying issue, thinking that melee isnt popular. sadly the functionality of poe is meta builds and guides, new players/casual players will go for the more popular more advertised builds, and avoid melee due to the meme of melee is dead.
After watching that Uber Elder encounter i understand why there is a Reason cArn goes Slayer instead, the 20% cull its a must if youre playing Boneshatter and rushing to do Ubers.
WOW ! Ty for the vid. Its my first league i got a Mage blood and i allways wanted to deep delve.... Here i am , currently at 800 depth i really need someone to explain deep delve and some build questions. Its hard to buy anything this late in league...If anyone with a boneshatter delve char is reading this... pls sell me your stuff and teach me deep delve secrets. :D
Boneshatter is the #1 deep delve build this league too. With the correct (non-traditional) setup, it can scale almost infinite damage and infinite regen with good gear.
On the caveat that it's a non-functional build for mapping or bossing as it requires reaching a substantially large amount of trauma stacks while standing in the aura range of various mines. At least the fully minmaxed build I saw that had the highest depth.
Phase run to node, ramp up -> clear node -> get rewards while stacks fall off -> repeat.
dude the biggest thing i learned from this was cast on death portal thats genius
Gonna try this build.noob here :) thanks much for all the guides.keep them coming
As a new POE player, is, “you can get to this point in about a week.”, a week of farming 7 straight days for 18 hours a day, or a casual, “I work 3-4 twelve hour days a week and I can get to that point in my weekend off casually farming?
Bone shatter is the best melee skill because it have the best dps, good attack speed, good damage scaling with supoort gems, can stun, lowest mana cost on all melee red gem and build in splash. It just simply the best melee skill option, no other red, green gem can compete with boneshatter. Jugg is just an add-on for the skill that why some people play slayer. (Berserker simply dont have the survivability for the self damage aspect of boneshatter and champion is just the worst verion of jugg for boneshatter)
I just started playing POE, can you make a video on Flicker Strike? I'm running that right now
i dont know, things like uber shaper and uber uber elder were never a problem for me when i played back in sanctum (mageblood). I was doing a tempered by war set up (90% max fire res) so the only thing that was dangerous for me was Uber maven with the regen removal.
Is there anything you could use on weapon swap for boss damage?
Cuz ppl love melee and it’s one of the only good melee skills lol
Edit: the state of melee in poe is pretty bad though. Every build uses the same totems, rage, and berserk
According to poe ninja bone shatter is doing 300% more damage than any other build. It's the only one that tops a billion damage.
Because it's easy and cheap and simple to deal good single and aoe, good defense, good offense, versatile, on hit mechanics for free. Just an awesome skill at any budget
How do you play that slow guy? He was so difficult to play in acts. Not saying about single-targets, acts bosses. So a slayer was like a fresh breathe for me.
I have a cyclone Slayer that I'm working on and I took the no-life regen for more leech notable so something like that would be perfect for me
My only peoblem with bonezone was the Boss DMG so far...
Would you say this is more fun/better than righteous fire jugg as a league starter? In your opinion.
For me I prefer something more interactive and I think BS is faster too because of the attack speed. It's a lot of clicking though.
They're surprisingly different builds for their similarities, but do similarly well at most things. RF Jugg is a "walking simulator", you don't need to press many buttons outside of movement skills, and the damage just kinda happens. For lots of people that isn't as much fun since they don't feel like "they're" killing the mobs, but just as many people enjoy playing like essentially a lawnmower. Neither will be the most fun for bossing but Boneshatter is usually going to be a better option at equal levels of investment.
I refuse to play melee since 40% of melee dps became having the totems on.
Fun fact, during 3.20 announcement stream Q&A Chris said they want to untie totems and melee, despite 3.20 introducing a mastery making totem buffs linger for 3 seconds but 3.21 went with total radio silence regarding this topic.
Saying your setup is 5 div or less… that’s a 900+ weapon which goes for like 20-30+ div, all your gear is 5+ div per armour piece, on your “budget”
Watch the following video. Also this is a different league with a different economy. You can't watch a year old video and claim the prices are wrong like that. Every league is dramatically different.
It feels amazing to Play but overall boeshatter Has low damage uptime since u have to dodge Boss stuff
As a bone shatter player I did literally every boss and champion bosses no maven, it’s fun till you kill pinnacle bosses and then you might get stuck on 700-1000k dps, the only bad thing about the build is the dot you die from, and that made me reroll.
I tried the build and its main benefit wsa that it really is pretty fun to play. UNfortunately it was not for me since it just has so many map mods that I cant really handle without god tier gear compared to ranged builds that can work around even pretty bad mods. I am someone that normally doesnt really look at my map mods and just die or kite around when the occaional bad mod pops up but with boneshatter you cant really do that since there are to many that destroy the build.
Boneshatter is really the only melee skill that is fun and works like a melee skill should in an ARPG. Think of it as the Hammer of the Ancients for PoE.
I know the new chieftain tree looks bad but what about bone shatter chieftan. You can do full conversion to ele and easily get 85% res to whatever ele you wanna convert too. That basically negates the self damage completely on top of the whole free lvl 30 ancestral call. Regen would have to be solved via the tree though, just a random thought. Jugg is still super strong though.
Jugg can do it better 100% of the time. You want the armor from jugg to mitigate boneshatter. Forbidden flame and flesh can get you the resistances
You missing out popular among Melee build (which all melee only account for 10% playerbase). The reason is it's viable with less investment than many other melee skill that need huge investment. Spell still win 100% of the time.
Boneshatter have higher damage potential due to trauma. That is it.
Cyclone is QOL moving while attack or CoC, Flicker does need a big investment. Other melee? maybe occupy 1% .
one build being 10% of ALL builds, especially across HC and HCSSF, is a big deal. it's not just popular among melee, it's the most popular build PERIOD in certain circumstances which is special.
People want to play melee. It's a fun archetype that has been dead since 3.15. Bonershatter is a shill that somehow isn't dead.
because the idea of smacking something so hard it kills everyone around it is hilarious
ty for showing why i still never played melee builds in POE :) maybe in poe 2 i gonna try some melee if they rework the whole playstyle and defences :)