Forgotten Realms Lore - Red Wizards of Thay

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  • Episode 12 - Wizards they be Thay! I discuss the land of Thay and the organization known as the Red Wizards! A lawful evil state with Szass Tam controlling everything!
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Комментарии • 186

  • @richardandriola7893
    @richardandriola7893 7 лет назад +326

    It is forbidden to make maps of Eltabbar under penalty of death. The reason, though not commonly known, is that the glyph that imprisons the demon Eltab under the city is composed of the streets of Eltabbar!

    • @Tengu125
      @Tengu125 5 лет назад +16

      Really? That's awesome

    • @lucase.crusader1196
      @lucase.crusader1196 3 года назад +3

      So cool

    • @rpgmatch5726
      @rpgmatch5726 Год назад +15

      ...and every time a drawn map is destroyed, the prison is weakened. #realmslore

    • @grimsgraveyard3598
      @grimsgraveyard3598 Год назад +3

      @@rpgmatch5726 I wonder how many maps have been made and recovered and preserved.

    • @rpgmatch5726
      @rpgmatch5726 Год назад

      I am not sure!@@grimsgraveyard3598

  • @DarkReaperRedeemer
    @DarkReaperRedeemer 7 лет назад +75

    Worth of saying that the Szass Tam story is been told in the fantastic novel series "The Haunted Lands" by Richard Lee Byers.

    • @SeventhEthereal
      @SeventhEthereal 4 года назад +1

      I LOVE that series. I'm about to read it again!!

  • @AAron-gr3jk
    @AAron-gr3jk 2 года назад +24

    There's a 5e book out now from Ed Greenwood about the Red Wizards of Thay.

  • @southernpennsyrailfan8579
    @southernpennsyrailfan8579 Год назад +34

    I just saw the movie in theaters. and OH MY GOD!!! It was incredible

    • @LyricSnowe
      @LyricSnowe Год назад +1

      It was ok 🤷‍♂️

    • @jamesonholbrook3969
      @jamesonholbrook3969 7 месяцев назад +6

      Yes!!! It was so much fun and the way they portrayed magic was amazing

    • @rudeboyjohn3483
      @rudeboyjohn3483 2 месяца назад

      It's a great romp. I was happy with it

  • @Roboman20000
    @Roboman20000 7 лет назад +48

    Szass Tam is one of my favorite bad guys. He is constantly trying to take over Aglarond and continually fails. It's almost a sport now for the Witch Queen of Aglarond. There is a great scene in one of the Elmister books (I think?) where a Thay assassin comes to kill her while Elminster is visiting and they just destroy him. It's pretty comical.

  • @wright534
    @wright534 5 лет назад +13

    Good summation. Thay is a convincing example of a (mostly) stable LE society: surrounded by both enemies and potential conquests, the Zulkirs have more incentive to work with than against each other... most of the time, anyway.

  • @kingtoruk
    @kingtoruk 6 лет назад +81

    I’m surprised you didn’t mention his unique appearance: that unlike most liches who are most often encountered in a severe state of advanced decay, Szass Tam treats his body the way a mortician treats a cadaver. He indulges in endless lotions and oils, rejuvenative unctions, and layers on heavy cosmetics and perfumes to maintain an appearance that is passable among the living.
    In other words, he’s the opposite of the Lich Mellifleur, Who is described as completely skeletal with no remaining shards of flesh…

    • @ColeHolio2294
      @ColeHolio2294 6 лет назад +5

      I think him and Arklem Greeth go to the same beautician. :D

    • @scottplumer3668
      @scottplumer3668 6 лет назад +10

      I can see liches being a good subject for Terry Pratchett-style comedy, like a lich who has bits dropping off, but is always trying to stick them back on.

    • @erikseidler793
      @erikseidler793 3 года назад

      I always thought he kept a disguise spell up.

    • @yuppi3495
      @yuppi3495 Год назад

      Everyone should pay as much attention to skincare as him. Keep your skin fresh, y’all!!

  • @markdibuo3756
    @markdibuo3756 2 года назад +21

    The Red Wizards are going to be the villains for the upcoming DND movie.

  • @MrChaosAdam
    @MrChaosAdam 5 лет назад +144

    Red wizards are exclusively human, you forgot to add that.

    • @ProffessorYellow
      @ProffessorYellow Год назад +1

      Yo what's the source on this? I may have to redesign some things.

    • @theepicduck6922
      @theepicduck6922 Год назад +9

      @@ProffessorYellow it's more of a trend than a hard rule on average. Similar to netheril being made up of mainly humans w/ elves potentially spliced around due to being their teachers. Having a variety of races isn't completely wrong it's just red wizards on average are humans.

    • @The_Gent
      @The_Gent 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@ProffessorYellow "redesign" some things? 😆 why?

    • @ProffessorYellow
      @ProffessorYellow 9 месяцев назад

      I had a bunch of non human red wizards set up@@The_Gent

  • @AJPickett
    @AJPickett 7 лет назад +25

    Excellent.

  • @thashadowspawn
    @thashadowspawn 6 лет назад +12

    At 3 mins and 55 seconds I Waagghed with JOY! I Love how you use Warhammer pictures every now and then! I have been a happy follower of your channel for years now. As I'm going back and enjoying a major D&D Lore Kick right now ( both for hobby fix because I haven't gotten to really play 5th and for film/manga reasons) . I look forward to catching up with your new content in due time but right now I'm enjoying memory lane with the Forgotten Realms series that you did. It's helping me get through my time with the flu and again get some major studying in. Thanks for all of your hard work on every single video you produced Jorphdan!
    Aloha Amen Shalom
    ~Kane On The Brain~

  • @lorddraekan1065
    @lorddraekan1065 7 лет назад +9

    Really enjoy these videos. Helps me come up with D&D content for games i run. Also, really cool to spice up my homebrew worlds. There's just so much to Faerun that it is almost overwhelming. Thanks for taking it head on and being "A river to your people!"

  • @gotogi83
    @gotogi83 Год назад +4

    His name was Alt Tab? lol, there was one in world of warcraft named Alt Tabin. They should tell the story of Alt F4.

  • @awesomehartman1437
    @awesomehartman1437 7 лет назад +16

    Every Wednesday I wake up to watch these before work.

  • @Runehammer1
    @Runehammer1 7 лет назад +105

    death or assassination..which is..well...DEATH lol

  • @TheRusty
    @TheRusty 2 года назад +2

    "So Thay is deivided into eleven regions known as tharches, and they're each ruled by a tharcheon"
    Thay themes thoroughly through thick and thin.
    Good for them.

  • @ghxstlxrd191
    @ghxstlxrd191 7 лет назад +2

    All of the Forgotten Realms stories are SO FREAKING COOOOOL

  • @juanbonet6318
    @juanbonet6318 2 года назад +1

    Spell plague, city of torment, Key of Stars, were books where I learned about the red wizards of thay.

  • @Confuzledish
    @Confuzledish 7 лет назад +7

    Can't say enough how much I love these videos.

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  7 лет назад

      Thanks for watching :D

  • @marendur
    @marendur 6 лет назад +7

    I like how scary and dangerous Szass Tam is, however, that just makes me even more wondered with another character, called The Simbul. As you may know, The Simbul, is one of the seven sisters and was the main reason preventing Thay legions to overcame west Faerûn.

    • @schwann145
      @schwann145 4 года назад +1

      The Queen of Aglorand, one of Thay's greatest rivals along with Rashenen. :)

  • @knudsenmj
    @knudsenmj 7 лет назад +2

    Always look forward to your videos. Excited you are going to cover the spell plague next!

  • @simonwinkler4879
    @simonwinkler4879 Год назад +1

    "Wealthy Aristocats" thats a great Freudian slip

  • @Krom-Smash
    @Krom-Smash 7 лет назад +3

    Thayan Gladiator and Thrall of Eltab are the best prestige classes for a monster character and supporting wizard. I cant wait to play a Minotaur Thayan Gladiator with flaming horn, tower shield and a giant flail. Bonus, every DM I talk to says that flaming horns give a +? to intimidate.

  • @bedlam222
    @bedlam222 7 лет назад +2

    thanks for these are amazing i ended up bindeging this series after this video. this explains a lot that i wanted to know while playing through baldur's gate.

  • @tylerdavis6389
    @tylerdavis6389 2 года назад +3

    Back after the D&D movies trailer.
    Looks like ol' red Lich boy is gonna be the big bad.

    • @cyvader101
      @cyvader101 7 дней назад

      Well he was involved
      Maybe in a sequel he’ll be the big bad in stead of the big bad’s boss

  • @swedboot1
    @swedboot1 7 лет назад +141

    wealthy aristocats :D

    • @HundredYearsBoar
      @HundredYearsBoar 7 лет назад

      LOL

    • @jesusirizarry4493
      @jesusirizarry4493 5 лет назад +11

      I'm glad I wasn't the only one to catch that

    • @AmigoRoberto
      @AmigoRoberto 5 лет назад

      Beat me

    • @pivs
      @pivs 3 года назад +1

      As opposed to poor aristocats

    • @jacobvanstone6839
      @jacobvanstone6839 3 года назад +3

      I know I’m late the the party but theoretically depending on the culture of the country you could have aristocratic that maintained there privileges irrespective of wealth. E.g. Patricians in Rome.

  • @rickyevans2697
    @rickyevans2697 2 года назад +2

    “Wealthy aristoCATS”. 😆 I think you mean “AristoCRATS” Not the Disney movie. Love your videos partner. Keep ‘‘em coming!!!

  • @Stephen-gk3ds
    @Stephen-gk3ds 7 лет назад +1

    These videos are great. I fall asleep listening to them. They make good bed time stories. Only problem is I fall asleep before they finish and I never hear the full tale. 🤔

  • @ButtercheeseYay
    @ButtercheeseYay 7 лет назад +3

    I enjoy this series immensely, keep 'em coming!

  • @SadBoi_1066
    @SadBoi_1066 7 лет назад +2

    Just watched your entire video library! Love your stuff! Keep making lore vids! :) suggestions: Lord's Alliance, Zhentarim, The Harpers. Also, Dragons. Just, like, Dragons. :)

  • @jctxcboy36
    @jctxcboy36 2 года назад +1

    Is there any lore in Forgotten Realms explains how the Dragon Masks were made which were used by the Cult of the Dragon to raise Tiamat? Running TOD and would love to provide some back story in these masks and how they were created, etc.

  • @Hurunewyz1
    @Hurunewyz1 5 лет назад +1

    as far as D&D [Wizard] Lore Summaries go? ... 'Well-Done', Jorphdan. was interesting, thank you

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  5 лет назад

      Thank you! 😁

    • @TheZentegi
      @TheZentegi 4 года назад

      I love the profile pic. I love Go!

  • @Try_Hard_Dad
    @Try_Hard_Dad 2 года назад +1

    Best channel, no lie.

  • @detgrsketestamente3821
    @detgrsketestamente3821 7 лет назад +2

    Fantastic RUclips video on my favorite fantasy world 😊. I have seen all your videos so far and very impressed.
    I hope that you'll continue the historic line and I would love to see vids on the anthropology of Faerun.
    please do continue ... like forever 🤘

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  7 лет назад +1

      thanks for watching! I'm glad you're enjoying the series!

  • @gildedmage5695
    @gildedmage5695 2 года назад +1

    Looks like this video is gonna get some extra love after the new dnd movie trailer

  • @austinsarbacker3779
    @austinsarbacker3779 7 лет назад +1

    the video quality keeps going up and up!!

  • @davidmiddleton7958
    @davidmiddleton7958 10 месяцев назад +1

    Just to say, I believe some of the 7 Sisters have had dealings with the Red Wizards.

  • @ReadySetBacon
    @ReadySetBacon 7 лет назад +1

    Really love your videos. Very informative. Do you think you'll ever touch on the Harpells of Longsaddle?

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  7 лет назад

      Possibly! I'll add it to the list of topics!

  • @ryanconrad2786
    @ryanconrad2786 7 лет назад +1

    6:50 correction...called Thakorsil's Seat.

  • @thewidow7864
    @thewidow7864 3 года назад

    "the position of bulk here is permanent and changes with death or assassination... which, uh, is really just death so.. that... yeah"
    lol

  • @erikseidler793
    @erikseidler793 3 года назад +1

    One realm that can't be forgotten is Thay : Realm Of The Red Wizards. I wonder if that NWN server still exists.

  • @Yuricthebold
    @Yuricthebold 2 года назад

    Given there appearance in the Dungeons and Dragons Honor Amongst Thieves; maybe a recap on Szass Tam or the RWoT?

  • @EZglovesUP
    @EZglovesUP 2 года назад

    I almost finished the first book of the "haunted lands" Trilogy. Sick af

  • @envoy2500
    @envoy2500 4 года назад +1

    So everything about the death moon orb is referenced in Fable Lost Chapters

  • @estigmax7247
    @estigmax7247 5 лет назад +1

    I have a question Red wizards summon demons or devils?
    What position have in the blood war ? And the underdark after Out of abys

  • @haydenbsiegel
    @haydenbsiegel Год назад

    They always try to imprison the Diviner just like Savras! My favorite spell school is a trap.

  • @Belcebu6
    @Belcebu6 7 лет назад +4

    this channel is awesome !

  • @arcian2006
    @arcian2006 7 лет назад +1

    Awesome watch!

  • @roguedexx938
    @roguedexx938 4 года назад +1

    3 years later I see Red Wizards and instantly hit "like"

  • @unacceptableviews1505
    @unacceptableviews1505 6 лет назад +2

    The only thing I don't like about your videos is that THEY ARE TOO SHORT....lol.Its hard to do justice to your topic this way.The Realms are a vast world so I know why you do short vid's.I have to admit these get my D&D blood fired up.I just turned 50 and have played in the realms once it became clear that WOTC was going to focus on this world.I do however miss The World of Greyhawk and the Realms as I haven't played with dice/character sheets since 1998.The small Canadian town I now live in doesn't have any groups for D&D so I cant even satisfy my first love.I even still have most of my books and dice.Oh well,I guess my comp. games will have to suffice.Please keep doing this work as I think it is important and the depth of even short vid's keeps this place alive.Cheers.

    • @alfonsogiampollo5153
      @alfonsogiampollo5153 5 лет назад

      Why don't you get into worldbuilding, or even if you're really desperate there is ways to play DND online which I'm sure you might already know of.

  • @alexpatrick4846
    @alexpatrick4846 6 лет назад +3

    Double-do tickles me every time

  • @HvinnyTheViking
    @HvinnyTheViking 2 года назад +2

    4:53 aristoCATS lol

  • @mercurialsilver5688
    @mercurialsilver5688 6 лет назад +1

    These are really good.

  • @MinscFromBaldursGate92
    @MinscFromBaldursGate92 Год назад +1

    Nice Greenskins army you got there.

  • @TomorrowWeLive
    @TomorrowWeLive 2 года назад +1

    "slaves are treated decently but may be killed for minor infractions"
    >audible WAT

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  2 года назад

      i.imgur.com/7kZ562z.jpg

  • @Grungydan
    @Grungydan 7 лет назад +1

    YAY A NEW VID!

  • @summussum7540
    @summussum7540 4 года назад +1

    Did he say Aristocats instead of aristocrats at 4:55? I think he did...

  • @alexanderfilip113
    @alexanderfilip113 5 лет назад +1

    I really like these very informative videos. Thanks for the hard work and research. It's really nice to know more about the homeland of Edwin, or should I say Edwina.

  • @exploringpnw716
    @exploringpnw716 7 лет назад +1

    Great video as always. I was wondering if you might be able to link all the artwork you put in your videos in the description from now on or if it is too much work? In particular the picture you used for Yaphyll I cant seem to find it online.

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  7 лет назад +2

      I'd love to put all my sources but I don't think I have enough time. I believe this is the artwork you were asking about.
      s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/27/59/72/27597204695cf54098ac707d805ef1b2.jpg

    • @exploringpnw716
      @exploringpnw716 7 лет назад

      Thats the one thank you, and I understand no worries man!

  • @zeugenberg
    @zeugenberg Год назад +1

    Sooo... are they importing slaves or exporting slaves?
    Asking for a friend who hasn't prepared for next Session.

  • @blahlbinoa
    @blahlbinoa 7 лет назад +40

    Spellplague, or the giant middle finger from WotC to not only its fans but it's creators.

    • @Zeemis
      @Zeemis 4 года назад +2

      I had a "potential" DM that I was going to play with that wanted to run a Spellplague centered campaign. Yeah we didn't get to starting that campaign.

  • @AmpelioB
    @AmpelioB 9 месяцев назад +1

    thats from the movie!

  • @MisterTutor2010
    @MisterTutor2010 6 лет назад +3

    Who are Thay? :)

  • @graygrandeza6126
    @graygrandeza6126 4 года назад +2

    I. love. this. channel.

  • @deryldonaldson1128
    @deryldonaldson1128 5 лет назад

    do a video on the Eldreth Veluuthra

  • @ghxstlxrd191
    @ghxstlxrd191 7 лет назад +1

    Can we get a vid covering all of the schools of magic?

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  7 лет назад

      +AnKa アンカ good idea, I'll look into it!

  • @danhibiki5977
    @danhibiki5977 7 лет назад +1

    Clicked because of Curse of the Azure Bonds, Though maybe that Red Wizard wasn't one of THE Red Wizards? Anyone?

  • @TheSwartz
    @TheSwartz 7 лет назад +1

    Another good video!

  • @jordanrejon5091
    @jordanrejon5091 Год назад

    Hell yeah thank you for the lore it's really gonna help my character

  • @antimatterstudios8395
    @antimatterstudios8395 6 лет назад

    How did Larloch influence Szass Tam. I heard something happened between the two

  • @markafterdark8047
    @markafterdark8047 5 лет назад +1

    Is your name really Jorphdan? Like where did that come from

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  5 лет назад +2

      It's kind of a long story and was an inside joke back in 2010! I was commenting on how kids now seemed to have creative parents where their kids name would be Tiffany, but they would spell it Tiphanni. So as a joke I decided to become Jordan with a silent PH in the middle :)

  • @liljohnnotbigjohn
    @liljohnnotbigjohn 7 лет назад +1

    so... if you can create an army of undead that is smart enough to handle tactics, organization, etc, why would you worry about slaves? You have to *feed* slaves. An army of zombie slaves might have some downsides (what's that smell?), but they never get tired, stop, etc.

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  7 лет назад

      I believe Szass Tam would agree with you!

    • @schwann145
      @schwann145 4 года назад

      On the other hand, undead don't follow you just cuz they think you're cool - you have to expend a *lot* of magical energy on a constant basis to maintain control.

    • @iang0th
      @iang0th 2 года назад

      @@schwann145 Uh, slaves don't follow you just cuz they think you're cool, either.

  • @willlybooy5173
    @willlybooy5173 3 года назад

    I want more please complete the yugi dex

  • @TheWildHart
    @TheWildHart Год назад +1

    4:55 bro did you just say "aristo-cats"?

  • @RoswellRay
    @RoswellRay Год назад +1

    Thay/Them

  • @mrmacguff1n
    @mrmacguff1n 6 лет назад

    Is it Dnd artwork or 40k....can be hard to tell

  • @itzybitzyspyder
    @itzybitzyspyder 3 года назад +1

    4:53 aristocats?!

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  3 года назад +1

      lol yeah,
      short story my significant other was directing the Disney aristocats, and well I guess it was on my mind

  • @inpuris13
    @inpuris13 2 года назад

    what school(s) did each red wizard need to give up?

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  2 года назад

      I believe it was the opposing side on the magic relationship wheel.
      static.wikia.nocookie.net/forgottenrealms/images/b/b0/Second_Edition_Schools_of_Magic_Relationships.jpg

  • @misomiso8228
    @misomiso8228 7 лет назад

    Who is the girl at 4.44 - when you are talking about longhaired slaves?

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  7 лет назад

      That's Kate Mara from a movie called Ironclad.
      www.imdb.com/title/tt1233301/

  • @2DollarGargoyle
    @2DollarGargoyle 3 года назад

    So did Szass create the orb or did Larloch trade it to him.

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  3 года назад +2

      It was created by Larloch to control his court.

  • @elijahvanvlack3704
    @elijahvanvlack3704 6 лет назад

    Would people living along the Sword Coast be aware of the hierarchy and Red Wizards of Thay?

    • @schwann145
      @schwann145 4 года назад +1

      They'd likely be very aware of Red Wizards as they place themselves all over Faerun selling magical items and (where possible) trading slaves.
      Would they be familiar with the hierarchy? Probably not, unless they have some particular reason to be well versed in a culture on "the other side of the world."

  • @victormontano966
    @victormontano966 4 года назад

    Vibe check

  • @Stellarheim
    @Stellarheim 3 года назад

    Jordan here, the PH assailant.

  • @jonathandurbin5534
    @jonathandurbin5534 4 года назад

    At 4:56-ish he says aristocats lol

  • @Wizcraft
    @Wizcraft 7 лет назад

    Kepp it up !!

  • @nickh3205
    @nickh3205 7 лет назад +1

    Thay are cool

  • @methodofinstruction1368
    @methodofinstruction1368 7 лет назад +1

    Yaaaay!

  • @TheZentegi
    @TheZentegi 4 года назад

    Was there an event that changed things from 2nd edition to 3rd edition

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  4 года назад

      The Time of Troubles!

    • @TheZentegi
      @TheZentegi 4 года назад

      @@Jorphdan ooh I thought that was 1.0 to 2.0

  • @FelipeWalker2
    @FelipeWalker2 7 лет назад

    What was the major event in 3rd edition?

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  7 лет назад

      There wasn't one actually. Only the Time of Troubles for AD&D 2nd edition, the Spellplague for 4th, and the Second Sundering for 5th edition.

  • @bahamutkaiser
    @bahamutkaiser Год назад

    Killed the gods? Or the avatars?

  • @iamalpharius7998
    @iamalpharius7998 7 лет назад

    Do a video on acererak

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  7 лет назад

      That is a fantastic idea. I never thought about it. Thanks I'll add it to my list of potential topics :D

  • @chaoticneutral7573
    @chaoticneutral7573 2 года назад

    Binge watching Forgotten Realms lore so better understand Baldur's Gate 3 story and setting before game comes out.

  • @Mr.Dinkleberg
    @Mr.Dinkleberg 4 года назад

    You keep showing pictures of Tarul Var and saying it’s Szass Tam

  • @ericyoung4448
    @ericyoung4448 7 лет назад

    why does everyone hate on the Spellplague? I've only recently started playing (started with 5e) so maybe there's a lot of stuff I don't know about but I thought the Spellplague was a pretty cool concept.

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  7 лет назад +2

      +Eric Young I believe it is that WoTC used the spellplague to justify the complete overhaul of DnD for 4th edition. But I'm with you, I think it (and 4th edition) are over hated.

    • @schwann145
      @schwann145 4 года назад +1

      It was a disrespectful overhaul of the entire setting that came with massive retcons, all of which happened for no better reason than, "D&D switched editions."
      The players didn't want it. The authors didn't want it. It was a 100% corporate, "let's freshen things up" decision.

  • @j-fallard5351
    @j-fallard5351 7 лет назад

    Thay is so flavorful

  • @IncanPete
    @IncanPete 3 года назад

    That guy's a real "Szass Hole." Does anyone ever make that joke?

  • @dankmessiah
    @dankmessiah 6 лет назад

    heh heh, doobly doo. Who doesn't watch Colville? :P

  • @Korealignments
    @Korealignments 4 года назад

    Dooblee-doo... Someone was watching Colville.

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  4 года назад

      Yes, and no. Created by Wheezy Waiter.
      knowyourmeme.com/memes/doobly-doo

  • @that1indianguy664
    @that1indianguy664 6 лет назад

    What if the ph wasn’t silent????

  • @NILBKS
    @NILBKS 6 лет назад

    No aguardo de alguem legendar em portugues para os Br's rs *sim eu sei que é mais fácil aprender ingles ok