A Short History Of A Long Name - Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

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Комментарии • 726

  • @NameExplain
    @NameExplain  4 года назад +536

    Is anyone watching from Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch?

    • @cat_1878
      @cat_1878 4 года назад +167

      Nearby! As a native welsh speaker even i struggle to say it hehe

    • @AllanLimosin
      @AllanLimosin 4 года назад +36

      I'm Turkish born French so nothing to do with it

    • @shrekuwu259
      @shrekuwu259 4 года назад +11

      fy mhen

    • @pas-giaw6055
      @pas-giaw6055 4 года назад +13

      Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
      Copied name
      Btw I have the book 'The origin of names, words and everything between'

    • @operatormor3561
      @operatormor3561 4 года назад +10

      Does some random, obscure village in Pembrokeshire count?

  • @augustlizabethmoore
    @augustlizabethmoore 4 года назад +589

    German: polygons the language
    French: gargling with air
    Italian: hand signs and spicy syllables
    Welsh: tongue anarchy

    • @andreasm5770
      @andreasm5770 4 года назад +12

      😂😂👌👍

    • @JustWowNick
      @JustWowNick 4 года назад +10

      I’d say these are all true.

    • @merrittanimation7721
      @merrittanimation7721 4 года назад +24

      Arabic: Choking on your own throat.

    • @marcopohl4875
      @marcopohl4875 4 года назад +14

      want a ridiculous image in your head?
      welsh speed rapper doing sign language

    • @wofls2713
      @wofls2713 4 года назад +18

      some dude: *welsh speed rapping in sign language*
      the demon that was summoned using jutsu: yo, hey

  • @alanmorris7669
    @alanmorris7669 3 года назад +172

    The exact translation is actually: _"The Church of St Mary in the hollow of the white hazel, near the fierce whirlpool and the Church of St Tysilio by the red cave."_

    • @Dianasaurthemelonlord7777
      @Dianasaurthemelonlord7777 3 года назад +2

      Yup.

    • @coweatsman
      @coweatsman 2 года назад +13

      So the name contains all the local geography info.

    • @TopsideCrisis346
      @TopsideCrisis346 2 года назад +16

      It's actually the name of Cthulhu's second cousin. 😅

    • @SlayingPotato
      @SlayingPotato 2 года назад +3

      So basically just a little harder then the Netflix series ‘The woman in the house across the street from the girl in the window’

    • @theunquenchablethirst3607
      @theunquenchablethirst3607 2 года назад +2

      I cannot lie this translation is kinda pretty I like the name of the town

  • @That_Comic_Guy
    @That_Comic_Guy 4 года назад +581

    To help English speakers pronounce the name... phonetically at least. Say it like this: Clan-vire-porth-gwin-geth-go-ger-in-quin-dro-both-clan-tis-silly-o-go-go-goch.
    Sincerely a Welshmen 😂👌

    • @michaelschudlak1432
      @michaelschudlak1432 4 года назад +33

      Perffaith👍

    • @bobbobberson5371
      @bobbobberson5371 4 года назад +57

      U could have fully made that up and nobody would realize lol. Thanks for the help

    • @alexwang982
      @alexwang982 4 года назад +4

      Lol

    • @behornedhorse4913
      @behornedhorse4913 4 года назад +5

      Ll is not like cl at all! Just say L instead

    • @inregionecaecorum
      @inregionecaecorum 4 года назад +7

      @@behornedhorse4913 Being Sais I struggle with the correct pronunciation of Ll though apparantly it does exist in the middle of some words in English.

  • @djnikhedonia
    @djnikhedonia 3 года назад +21

    My mother grew up owning a record with a song that taught how to pronounce Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch. She introduced my sister and I to it when we were children. It was one of my favourite songs, and the memory of how to pronounce Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch has stayed with our family decades later.

    • @servantofaeie1569
      @servantofaeie1569 3 года назад

      you mean this song? ruclips.net/video/1BXKsQ2nbno/видео.html

    • @shadowpastathetf2kidwithau706
      @shadowpastathetf2kidwithau706 Год назад

      I am not welsh but i taught myself to say it im.... surprisingly fluent i thank youtube and a song on youtube

  • @marsi.s
    @marsi.s 4 года назад +368

    so the village's name is basically a clickbait then

    • @Tjmce
      @Tjmce 4 года назад +8

      😂

    • @k-techpl7222
      @k-techpl7222 4 года назад +17

      Tourist trap to be exact.

    • @Flakjacket96
      @Flakjacket96 4 года назад +22

      @@k-techpl7222 Tourist Trap is just Clickbait but in the meatspace.

    • @josephdadey
      @josephdadey 4 года назад +6

      The 18th century equivalent, more of a "visit-bait", as clicking on things was considered strange in the 18th century.

    • @k-techpl7222
      @k-techpl7222 4 года назад +4

      @@josephdadey The word you're looking for is "tourist trap".

  • @patrickbaker7014
    @patrickbaker7014 4 года назад +201

    Elon Musk naming his child be like:

  • @professortoad1378
    @professortoad1378 4 года назад +217

    Being Welsh and living in Wales if I were to leave a comment on the Welsh language situation I'd say it's going well. It's the only Celtic language which has actually gained speakers in the past few years so all in all. Everything is fine.

    • @mng3941
      @mng3941 4 года назад +4

      Good for you guys!

    • @brokenursa9986
      @brokenursa9986 4 года назад +25

      My understanding is that the Welsh hate the English so much that the Welsh language is making a resurgence as a big middle finger to England. As an American, I support the movement wholeheartedly.

    • @kinggwyn3056
      @kinggwyn3056 4 года назад +19

      @@brokenursa9986 tbh, we don't have the much hatred of the English, imo, we the welsh are the most apolitical in the union. Personally I'm a unionist however.

    • @KIJIKLIPS
      @KIJIKLIPS 4 года назад +13

      @@brokenursa9986 that's why Americans need to stop associating Britain with England they're different. Or rather just England.

    • @GeographyWorld
      @GeographyWorld 4 года назад +16

      It's doing better than Irish and Ireland is an independent country.

  • @garfieldh.8820
    @garfieldh.8820 4 года назад +263

    [ˌɬanvair​pʊɬˌɡwɨ̞ŋɡɨ̞ɬ​ɡɔˌɡɛrə​ˌχwərn​ˌdrɔbʊɬ​ˌɬan​təˌsɪljɔ​ˌɡɔɡɔ​ˈɡoːχ] is the pronouciation... as if that helps

    • @Frahamen
      @Frahamen 4 года назад +90

      Finally someone who uses IPA instead of silly English "phonetic spelling".

    • @edmundthespiffing2920
      @edmundthespiffing2920 4 года назад +9

      Not really 😅

    • @ericBorja520
      @ericBorja520 4 года назад +5

      this helps so much with understanding welsh's unique sounds.

    • @MrCubFan415
      @MrCubFan415 4 года назад +9

      Edmund the Spiffing here’s a clip of a weatherman saying it: ruclips.net/video/fHxO0UdpoxM/видео.html
      hope that helps!

    • @edmundthespiffing2920
      @edmundthespiffing2920 4 года назад +2

      @@MrCubFan415 this video was recommended to me after finishing the video 😂

  • @bravenewdawn6293
    @bravenewdawn6293 4 года назад +136

    Please do an episode about Kernewek (Cornish). We have lots of interesting names to explain too!

    • @josephdolman
      @josephdolman 4 года назад +1

      Can you translate what they say on the Kelly's cornish ice cream adverts.

    • @mranon_101
      @mranon_101 4 года назад

      YES

    • @bravenewdawn6293
      @bravenewdawn6293 4 года назад

      Joseph Dolman not sure which advert you’re referring to but probably yeah

    • @josephdolman
      @josephdolman 4 года назад

      @@bravenewdawn6293 it's called beach huts it's got several Cornish natives speaking entirely in Jerusalem they're promoting ice cream

    • @fredrhys216
      @fredrhys216 4 года назад +2

      My personal favourite is Lizard Point-ie Lysardh innit

  • @AbsolXGuardian
    @AbsolXGuardian 4 года назад +86

    I'm glad you took the time to explain that the reason why Welsh names look like keysmashes to English speakers is just because Welsh has a different set of valid phenomes and different transcription rules. Complaining about not being able to sound out welsh words is like complaining about not being able to sound out words written in Greek or Cryllic

    • @fnjesusfreak
      @fnjesusfreak 4 года назад +4

      Heck, Polish isn't even that hard once you learn how the orthography works. (I still can't pronounce "Wołoszczuk" though.)

    • @grusha9516
      @grusha9516 4 года назад +5

      When I was a child as a Russian speaker I tried reading English but p becane rolded r and n became p. It keeps me up at night.

    • @anthonyappleyard5688
      @anthonyappleyard5688 2 года назад +1

      @@fnjesusfreak "Vowoshchook".

  • @TRISTANTHEGAMER
    @TRISTANTHEGAMER 4 года назад +39

    oh i know this one I've been there a lovely place

  • @NiamhCreates
    @NiamhCreates 4 года назад +64

    How often do I see words with "gwy" next to each other? Frequently! My daughter's middle name is Gwyneira, lol.

    • @eventhorizon2339
      @eventhorizon2339 4 года назад

      Your Welsh

    • @extrude22
      @extrude22 4 года назад +2

      That sounds like a Welsh name to me, Gwyn is the male version.

    • @NiamhCreates
      @NiamhCreates 4 года назад +2

      @@extrude22 Typically, you would be correct that "gwyn" is masculine. However, the name Gwyneira is feminine.

    • @NiamhCreates
      @NiamhCreates 4 года назад +1

      @@eventhorizon2339 I'm actually not.

    • @extrude22
      @extrude22 4 года назад +3

      Niamh-Creates I said Gwyn is the make version implying that I realise your daughters name is feminine.

  • @donmonteiro6830
    @donmonteiro6830 4 года назад +10

    "Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch"
    Me: what did u just say to me?!
    Sorry what I meant to say is ... " The church of St Marys in the hollow of white hazel trees near the rapid whirlpool by St. Tysilio's of the red cave."
    Me: oh yeah, that's what I thought!?! Lol

  • @bigbootros4362
    @bigbootros4362 4 года назад +29

    I love Wales and the Welsh language and Welsh people 😊🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇬🇧♥️

    • @Tjmce
      @Tjmce 4 года назад +4

      Yeah me too I am a celtic cousin of Wales (irish 🇮🇪)

    • @mikumiku_va
      @mikumiku_va 5 месяцев назад +1

      🇬🇧✨

  • @indecisive.325
    @indecisive.325 4 года назад +36

    That town's name has more L's than my average Call of Duty session

  • @SWLinPHX
    @SWLinPHX 4 года назад +78

    Did anyone else catch the mistake the reporter made when he pronounced it with the stress on the 11th syllable instead of the 10th?

    • @lingux_yt
      @lingux_yt 4 года назад +4

      so it's droBWLL, not DRObwll?

  • @MayhemmiGunn
    @MayhemmiGunn 4 года назад +14

    Patrick 1:32 : 'How often do we see the letters G-W-Y next to eaxh other?
    Gwyneth Paltrow: 😢😢😢

  • @ewestner
    @ewestner 3 года назад +4

    That weatherman is a LEGEND and it made me smile every time you cut to him saying the name. Clever way to avoid saying it yourself!

  • @UnfriendlyGhostK
    @UnfriendlyGhostK 4 года назад +13

    The Welsh 'Ll' digraph is said by putting your tongue upto your upper teeth and blowing air around it

  • @LedosKell
    @LedosKell 4 года назад +288

    The Welsh language exists to troll native English speakers.

  • @lp-xl9ld
    @lp-xl9ld 4 года назад +10

    Another language joke:
    Welsh: too many consonants
    Hawaiian: too many vowels

    • @APH1991
      @APH1991 4 года назад +3

      Spanish: EYYYYYYYYYY MACARENA!

    • @Des-q
      @Des-q 4 года назад +1

      French: wayy too many vowels

    • @Xnoob545
      @Xnoob545 2 года назад

      @@Des-q ok but have y'all heard of this language called English? It has way too many vowels

  • @HalfEye79
    @HalfEye79 4 года назад +5

    This name seems to be a similar prank as the fictional german society:
    Oberweserdampfschiffahrtskapitänsmützenanhängerpoliturfabrikationsgewerkschaft.

    • @ekvedrek
      @ekvedrek 3 года назад +2

      Can pronounce it without seizing out. Not good enough.

  • @thbl8159
    @thbl8159 4 года назад +24

    You should make a video explaining the name of the french town of Y in the somme region!

  • @mair887
    @mair887 4 года назад +4

    As a Welsh person I'd say we're doing ok with preserving our language. We have to learn Welsh in schools and we're required to take a GCSE in it. I'm not fluent but I can understand and speak some Welsh. If you come to cities (especially where I live) you'll hear a lot of English. But, rural Wales speaks a lot more Welsh.

  • @DougGlendower
    @DougGlendower 4 года назад +6

    I loved the Onion's Atlas entry: "Wales: The Land of Consonant Sorrow"

  • @yungstallion2201
    @yungstallion2201 4 года назад +5

    I’m a Welshman and I read the Welsh signs before the English and It makes me cringe when people live in Wales but still can’t pronounce places at least basic places. Even though We still don’t speak the language predominantly, it’s still common to be able to speak tiny amounts of Welsh to pronounce Places

  • @user-vn7ce5ig1z
    @user-vn7ce5ig1z 4 года назад +83

    • There's also Pekwachnamaykoskwaskwaypinwanik Lake in Manitoba Canada.
    • You should have ended the video by cutting to Liam Dutton saying it again. 🤦

    • @littleworldkanthima5949
      @littleworldkanthima5949 4 года назад +8

      there is also kruntepmahanakonamonratanakosinmahintaraayutayamahadilokpopnoparatrashatani etc. the full name of bankok.

    • @FirstnameLastname-uo3yu
      @FirstnameLastname-uo3yu 4 года назад +4

      The Video is about llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch maybe it’s for another time.

    • @FirstnameLastname-uo3yu
      @FirstnameLastname-uo3yu 4 года назад +3

      And also he talks about more longer settlement names

    • @NimhLabs
      @NimhLabs 4 года назад

      In Cree Symbolics Pekwachnamaykoskwaskwaypinwanik Lake only is about fifteen letters long...
      My Cree is *super* rusty (thank you colonisation!) but it seems like would translate to "The One [that has/with the] [something] [doing something/having had an action]"... it might actually just be "The one lake that does something Lake" knowing how the Cree are
      That being said... that might be an Ojibwa name or a Dene name--which mostly only have similarities to Cree due to the Cree kind of having an infamous reputation for "being the awesome people that are the reason why rules exist"... or at least that is my own linguistic head canon for why some different dialects of Cree work the way they do, and why certain elements of Ojibwa or Dene have certain elements. In that for anything there SHOULD be a rule against, the Cree will demonstrate why there needs to be a rule (in a fun way) xD
      I'm not from Manitoba... so yeah, its local landmarks just have me guessing about, when I'm not all, "it is a hell swamp of doom"
      If you want, you can come up with reasons why random Alberta landmarks are due to silly Ukrainian nonsense... including that Ukrainian Nazi Monument in Alberta

    • @NimhLabs
      @NimhLabs 4 года назад

      Actually wait... in WESTERN Cree Symbolics it would be about fifteen letters long... but that lake might be properly spelled with EASTERN Symbolics... which in that case, I have no clue how many letters it would be--possibly less

  • @stantorren4400
    @stantorren4400 4 года назад +44

    Sounds like the name my cat put when my cat walked on the keyboard

    • @michaelschudlak1432
      @michaelschudlak1432 4 года назад +3

      Literally the first time I've ever heard that joke👏. You have to explain your thought process by coming up with that joke.

    • @stantorren4400
      @stantorren4400 4 года назад +1

      Michael Schudlak cats always walk on things and because everyone’s cat walks on keyboard, so did mine

    • @rparl
      @rparl 4 года назад

      A long time ago, there was a computer program which would detect the keyboard pattern of an animal, usually a cat, walking on the keyboard and emit a loud, high frequency sound which would drive off the cat. Eventually it would learn to avoid the keyboard. As I don't have a cat, I didn't buy it.

    • @scottsterling7659
      @scottsterling7659 4 года назад

      How original

    • @rparl
      @rparl 4 года назад

      @maelienydd Tom, Tom, the piper's grandson, Stole a PC and away he run, The job was neat, But he still got beat, By the time he got it home it was ... ... obsolete.
      Not original with me.

  • @Sandra.Molchanova
    @Sandra.Molchanova 4 года назад +8

    ...so basically it was a marketing trick on the verge of trolling. Well, they aced it

  • @anotherdelta
    @anotherdelta 4 года назад +53

    No one:
    Nobody:
    Not even the person who is trying to learn Welsh:
    That one welsh clothing worker: *LLANFAIRPWYLLGYNNLYLLLOGERYANTWYSLLYGORYPYLLLLOPWANGYLLYGLAPWPANAGWGYLLLLLAPRANDWNGPWNWDYWALAWATWYLWYLTWYLLLLOPWPROPWNDYRFFANFILLANDYRWDANACHALONALLYAWARADOWELLELEINSLALWLWLWLWLWLWLWLWLWLLLLFFFFLLLLFLFLFLFFLFLFLFFLFFLFLLFFLFFLFLLFLFLFLFLFFLLFFLFLLFLFFLFLFLFLFFLFLFLFLFLFLFLFLLFFLLFLFFFFFYLFLFLFLFLFLWPLYGOGOGOCH*

    • @raizeld3294
      @raizeld3294 4 года назад +3

      mrspaghettigg2020 nah. Welsh learners can say the name, since it's usually one of the first things people ask us when they find out we're learning the language

    • @scottsterling7659
      @scottsterling7659 4 года назад +4

      @@raizeld3294 yeah the first thing I learned was Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndr obwllllantysiliogogogoch

    • @anotherdelta
      @anotherdelta 4 года назад

      I haven’t had this many likes before :). I think my highest has been like 2.

  • @BloodRider1914
    @BloodRider1914 4 года назад +5

    Welsh vowel guide
    W is u (or oo), u is i (or ee), and y is uh (as in duh, or muffin)

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 4 года назад +14

    This is the place where that one weatherman nailed the pronunciation

  • @dimesonhiseyes9134
    @dimesonhiseyes9134 4 года назад +47

    It sounds like that guy is having a stroke

  • @taitano12
    @taitano12 4 года назад +5

    Since I bank with Wells Fargo, I have to ask...
    Does Wales have a Welsh Fargo?

  • @phs125
    @phs125 2 года назад +1

    My biggest surprise is that a small village with 80 people got its own railway all the way back in the 1700s.
    In 21st century my village has the nearest railway station 25km away, and doesn't have any useful connections except a once a day train to capital of our state...

  • @makouras
    @makouras 4 года назад +7

    As a person that butchers even two-syllable words, you made the right choice in not even attempting to say this word :P

  • @paraboo8994
    @paraboo8994 4 года назад +4

    You go Welsh speakers! Take your awesomely different language and run with it, be proud 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

  • @freyaodinsdottir2207
    @freyaodinsdottir2207 4 года назад +3

    I'm American and I started to learn a little Welsh after reading up about the Welsh stories of King Arthur. First, I wanted to learn how to say these words, then I fell into a rabbit hole, thanks to Duolingo and I watch Hansh's videos. It is depressing that these Celtic languages are on the decline, but rest assured, there are other Americans picking these languages up for fun.

  • @patrickbaker7014
    @patrickbaker7014 4 года назад +34

    At 8:20, you accidentally said the same line twice, however apart from that, great vid!

    • @n4skywalker738
      @n4skywalker738 4 года назад +2

      Haha didn't realize lol

    • @lauriinki9694
      @lauriinki9694 4 года назад +1

      I noticed it too!

    • @umartinko
      @umartinko 4 года назад +1

      Have you noticed that on title card it says "Subcribe" missing an "s" too? I saw that one, but didn't realize yours, good catch!

    • @Affixton96
      @Affixton96 4 года назад +2

      @@umartinko That typo has been there for a long time over many of his previous videos. I'm concerned that he hasn't noticed yet.

    • @bom3757
      @bom3757 4 года назад

      It's a good line tho

  • @IgabodDobagi
    @IgabodDobagi 4 года назад +3

    I'm Welsh on my father's side. Our family originating from the town Kidwelly in southern Wales. I am utterly intrigued by the Welsh language and even thought about learning it when I was younger. Unfortunately I just couldn't ever wrap my head around the language. I've been interested in the town that is the subject of this video for many years but have never actually tried pronouncing it because I don't want to choke on my own tongue. I spent most of my life in a town in Texas with a long name too, but it's a lot easier to pronounce and a lot shorter. That town's name is Nacogdoches and is pronounced Nak - uh - dough - chess. Nacogdoches has a very interesting history too. It's the oldest town in Texas and was named after a Caddo Indian who had a twin brother who a town in Louisiana is named after. That town is Natchitoches and is pronounced Nak - uh - dish. There is a legend that their father told them both to walk opposite directions for 3 days and then found their new villages. Nacogdoches headed west and Natchitoches headed east. The one in Texas has quite a lot of history in it, which always intrigued me as a child in school. Maybe you could do a video on those two towns one day.

  • @wisemankugelmemicus1701
    @wisemankugelmemicus1701 4 года назад +49

    If anyone asks it's just called Llanfair.
    You don't say the rest.

    • @Tornadica
      @Tornadica 4 года назад +2

      I think he did it for the clout 🤣

    • @chwilhogyn
      @chwilhogyn 3 года назад

      Llanfairpwll or Llanfair P.G. as the locals call it as my Grandfather was born and lived there until he met my grandmother in RAF/WRAF during WW2!

    • @Ayy_Doll_Fiddler
      @Ayy_Doll_Fiddler 3 года назад

      So, it's pronounced anfair?

  • @tomholt2730
    @tomholt2730 4 года назад +3

    Whilst at the train station at LlanfairPG I decided to get some fried chicken whilst I waited for the next train to Holyhead. Amazed at the exceptionally long sign, Once the lad bought me my boneless bucket I said. "Sorry mate, I'm a tourist from England. How do you pronounce this place's name?" Clearly the lad was sick of being asked. He sighed, rolled his eyes and said " Kay Eff See"

  • @Jimbo-wx9pu
    @Jimbo-wx9pu 4 года назад +3

    I’m English but I’m currently a student in Bangor which is just over the bridge from the village in question. The welsh language is the most common language in Bangor but it’s never been a problem that I cannot speak it because they’re incredibly accommodating however I am trying to learn as a lot of my friends are welsh first language speakers. And of my welsh speaking friends they tend to use the term Llanfair PG. I went there last year it has a really good gift shop.

  • @Numba003
    @Numba003 4 года назад +1

    I gotta say, I really enjoy that music you have playing in the background toward the end. Stay well out there everybody, and Jesus Christ be with you friends.😊

  • @theconqueringram5295
    @theconqueringram5295 4 года назад +1

    The person who pronounced the long name of Llanfair PG did it so masterfully.

  • @jeffdallama5431
    @jeffdallama5431 4 года назад +25

    Only the welsh would make up a town name that has 4
    Ls in a row

  • @brokenursa9986
    @brokenursa9986 4 года назад +1

    4:21 It's more like somewhere between an English sh and an English L. The IPA name for the sound is an alveolar lateral fricative, and the best way I can explain to pronounce it is to put your tongue like you're making an English L, then push air out the sides of your tongue to make the hissing sound. It's honestly my favorite sound, which I why I have a particular fondness for Welsh, Old Norse, and Nahuatl, all of which use it.

  • @nickvanruiven
    @nickvanruiven 4 года назад +1

    Dutchie learning Welsh here! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @ivantheczar
    @ivantheczar 4 года назад +23

    I thought Gwyneth is a common name...

  • @rogerdavies8586
    @rogerdavies8586 3 года назад +4

    Just before the pandemic, there was a report by academics in New Zealand telling us that Welsh is no longer an endangered language. Alas, they didn't have as much hope for Maori. But now we've seen Maori enthusiasts coming to Wales to find out how to do language revival.
    In the Victorian era, as part of an anglicisation drive, children were punished and humiliated in school for speaking Welsh. As late as 1997, a Tory think tank thought it should be discouraged in schools so 'it could become a dead language'.
    A lot of people think it went into decline for some kind of Darwinian reason as if it was inadequate. But no, it was at least a part the result of a bullying campaign, and we shouldn't give in to bullies.
    On a lighter note, you can see a Maori weather lady on an internet video saying the Maori long name. But she can't say the Welsh long name, because she can't stop laughing long enough.
    Marianne from Abergavenny

    • @casuallystalled
      @casuallystalled 2 года назад

      a good way to keep it alive is to teach it in school, but that's assuming their language learning cirrculm will be better than the USA's

  • @fabrisse7469
    @fabrisse7469 4 года назад +4

    The actor Taron Egarton is from there and pronounces it well. It helps that W is a vowel.
    Also, Manx is both p- and q- Celtic and you left out Galicia in Spain for the Gaelic regions.

  • @mildlycornfield
    @mildlycornfield 4 года назад +2

    I'm from South Wales, and while I can't really speak Welsh, I can understand it being spoken quite well

  • @frank_calvert
    @frank_calvert 4 года назад +1

    I love this town, it taught me how cool welsh ll was.

  • @aabidn275
    @aabidn275 4 года назад +2

    You’re a legend bro, keep it up!

  • @XaiaHey
    @XaiaHey 3 года назад +2

    Welsh actually has been on a massive resurgence in recent years with the government including ‘extra credit’ type thing for speaking welsh. It’s projected that by 2050 there will be over half of the population will be able to speak Welsh, meaning that more people will be able to speak Welsh than ever before in history (around 2 million by that point).

    • @izzyGO52
      @izzyGO52 2 года назад

      That would be sssoooooo amazing! I can only remember a little bit of Welsh from my school days but I would love to have Welsh become more prominent back home :D

  • @MB-rn4ul
    @MB-rn4ul 4 года назад

    The idea with the weatherman is awesome! ^^

  • @allanrichardson1468
    @allanrichardson1468 4 года назад +1

    It’s not nearly as long as that Welsh town’s name, but the Spanish gave a rather long name to a small village in Southern California: El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles de Porciúncula, or The Town of Our Lady the Queen of the Angels of Porciúncula.
    Today we just call it Los Angeles, or “L.A.” for short.

  • @TheRojo387
    @TheRojo387 3 года назад +1

    There needs to be a video on the full ceremonial name of Bangkok, Thailand. I can barely say it properly in one breath.

  • @louisll.nicholls5347
    @louisll.nicholls5347 4 года назад +1

    I visited there last year simply to gawk at the sign and buy some fun souvenirs (which were a mug and hat with the village's name on).

  • @drayton333
    @drayton333 4 года назад +1

    The best way to pronounce the ‘Ll’ sound is to phonetically pronounce ‘h’ but put your tongue to the mid roof of your mouth, now you should have an almost sighing sound. Add in a slight hiss and push the air slightly harder, then you should have the ‘Ll’ sound! It’s best to do this and then hear someone say it and adjust to the sound

  • @saeefrayhan9717
    @saeefrayhan9717 4 года назад +12

    I don't get why the LONGER name is less well known: Taumatawhakatangi­hangakoauauotamatea­turipukakapikimaunga­horonukupokaiwhen­uakitanatahu.

    • @knutthompson7879
      @knutthompson7879 4 года назад +3

      He mentions that one in the video. LllanfairPG is a human settlement and has the longest name in that category. The hill in New Zealand has a longer name, true, but is not a settlement. Different category.

    • @yungstallion2201
      @yungstallion2201 4 года назад

      It’s easier for English people to say, like he mentioned at the start

    • @Hand-in-Shot_Productions
      @Hand-in-Shot_Productions 4 года назад

      I'm impressed Google Translate can say it! Thanks for the effort, Google! Just look at these URLs: they're among the longest I have seen!
      Wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taumatawhakatangi%C2%ADhangakoauauotamatea%C2%ADturipukakapikimaunga%C2%ADhoronukupokaiwhen%C2%ADuakitanatahu
      Translate: translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=auto&tl=en&text=Taumatawhakatangi%C2%ADhangakoauauotamatea%C2%ADturipukakapikimaunga%C2%ADhoronukupokaiwhen%C2%ADuakitanatahu

  • @danielclasen809
    @danielclasen809 4 года назад +1

    When the name of your town on a map extends to the netherlands

    • @ekvedrek
      @ekvedrek 3 года назад +1

      Actually reaches Germany.

  • @portulanka
    @portulanka 4 года назад +1

    I live in South Wales and the government is investing a lot to try to keep the language alive. I've learned it to a basic level while studying at university, but down in South Wales not many people know how to speak it and many don't even have any interest - labelling it as a dead language... :'(

  • @Lord_Skeptic
    @Lord_Skeptic 6 месяцев назад +1

    A small village that has made a big name for itself

  • @farticlesofconflatulation
    @farticlesofconflatulation 4 года назад +2

    When your name is so long it stretches all the way to Holland.

  • @SuperCrazyfin
    @SuperCrazyfin 4 года назад +2

    I've been waiting for this!

  • @AB-xp8mf
    @AB-xp8mf 4 года назад

    If you go into the gift shop by the famous sign, you can get a free passport stamp with the town's name...(at least in 2018 you could!)...a fun souvenir

  • @nuomilinglong
    @nuomilinglong 2 года назад +1

    You can pronounce it piece by piece like this : Llan-vire-pooll-guin-gill-go-ger-u-gueern-drob-ooll-llandus-ilo-gogogoch

  • @TastyRacecar
    @TastyRacecar 4 года назад +3

    Been waiting far too long for this

  • @anthonyappleyard5688
    @anthonyappleyard5688 2 года назад

    I have ridden a motorcycle through the place many times when going to other places. I read that the traditional form was Llanfairpwll :: St. Mary's church by the pool :: there so many dedications to the Virgin Mary that pwll = pool was added to disambiguate. It was a village, but it has grown so much that it is more like a town and is now virtually a northern suburb of Bangor.

  • @iTurtleSnipz
    @iTurtleSnipz 4 года назад

    when I was twelve, my teacher would use the name of the Village as a method of punishment. If you fucked around in class you had to stay after school and write the name ten times on the blackboard, instead of giving people detention.

  • @martinscheimberg1666
    @martinscheimberg1666 4 года назад +10

    To continue with the Welsh vibe, how about the Welsh towns in southern Argentina, like Trelew, Puerto Madryn, Gaiman, Trevelin, etc.

  • @varadarajkamath404
    @varadarajkamath404 4 года назад +1

    1:26
    Confirmed: Pattrick foote is an O'Rangers fan!!
    #OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @FirstnameLastname-uo3yu
    @FirstnameLastname-uo3yu 4 года назад +2

    Oh wow! I’m actually studying how to pronounce that.

  • @gota7738
    @gota7738 4 года назад +2

    Whilst Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyndrobwyllllantysiliogogogoch is less historical than some might think, the protection of welsh place names is a bit of a hot button issue now. There's lot of with pushback against the tendency to anglicise historic welsh place or building names, erasing the location's history, as said names are often descriptions of what the place once was or was used as. Other names tell stories of events that happened there.
    Even living here today, I find the georgraphy of my country easier to follow using welsh place names, whilst their anglicised names are often quite random.

    • @drychaf
      @drychaf 4 года назад

      And Welsh names in England are being changed too (around Oswestry, for example). Dwi'n newid enw di-ystyr Saesneg fy nhy i mewn i un Cymraeg sydd a gwreiddyn hanesyddol a'i leoliad.

  • @cosmic_jon
    @cosmic_jon 4 года назад +1

    Nice! Do Lake Char­gogg­a­gogg­man­chaugg­a­gogg­chau­bun­a­gung­a­maugg next :D

    • @brokenursa9986
      @brokenursa9986 4 года назад

      Ah, yes. The lake with 17 G's in its name.

  • @ilakya
    @ilakya 4 года назад +5

    What about the "Krungthepmahanakorn Amornrattanakosin Mahindrayutthayamahadilog Popnopparatrajathaniburirom Udomrajanivesmahasathan Amornpimarn Avatarnsathit Kattiyavishanukarmasidhi"
    Which is the full Bangkok name. The capital city of Thailand. Shortly called by Thai casually as "Krungthep" or officially as "Krungthepmahanakorn" with a shorten sign (The "ฯ" at the end of "กรุงเทพมหานครฯ", The sign that also used in "ฯลฯ" which is Thai's "etc.") The name's reflect the old capital city of Thailand's name (Siam back then, It's the capital until around 250 years ago.), The Ayutthaya. Which is also have long full name but part of that are included in this current capital name. And it's like those other long name city you mentioned, It's descriptive name in an old language, Pali-Sanskrit in this case. But written with Thai alphabet and read in Thai style. Comprise of the name "Ayutthaya" from an epic/fairy tale of Ramayana with it's description. Which is the concept of the old capital was built upon; "A civilized prosperous city of angels with an avatar of god as it's king". And Bangkok's name added some more glorious adjective to that old name and be like "same as previous but better". So the name got longer than before. And to sum up, The casual short name "Krungthep" are literally means "City of angels". So now you may think that's why many Thai immigrants in US choose to lived in Los Angeles; The another city of angels. Oh, I almost forgot. The "Bangkok" is the name of the area before it became capital city. Which is where every trading vessel have to be pass before reaching the old capital. And that happened since around 400 years ago. It must be already well known name to the foreigners so the name stuck despite we change it to the overly glorious name for 200 years, While the original well known name sounds like a bad pun in English.

  • @nihilistteddy3
    @nihilistteddy3 4 года назад

    When you said it was Welsh, I immediately understood. My brain cannot even begin to process Welsh

  • @hettyscetty9785
    @hettyscetty9785 3 года назад

    If it's still working now, that was one hell of a marketing strategy

  • @colincofield3747
    @colincofield3747 3 года назад

    The villages name was also used in the 1968 movie "Barbarella" as a secret access code.

  • @popeter
    @popeter 4 года назад +8

    we all just call it Llanfairpg

    • @grahvis
      @grahvis 4 года назад

      Like Aberystwyth is just Aber, Machynlleth is just Mach and Llanidloes is just Llani.

  • @stewartjohnson5053
    @stewartjohnson5053 3 года назад +1

    Since I live nearby... a few thoughts. The language itself isn't that difficult to pronounce once you learn the rules because it's phonetic - everything is always pronounced the same way (except y I think...).
    So for a long word, just break it down into its constituent parts... it helps that a lot of Welsh names are actually very prosaic.... Caernarfon - Castle on the Arfon (local river). Tal-y-Bont (The High Bridge) or Betws-y-Coed ( Chapel in the woods). Llan means a church and is often followed by the relevant saint's name - Llanfair is St. Mary's Church, Llanbadrig is St. Patrick's etc.
    And then there's a few weird ones like Bethesda, Sion or Sodom(!) which are biblical and date I think from the 18th century Methodist revival... dispersed rural communities congregated around the Chapel of that name.
    As for the village itself - it's called Llanfair PG locally (and there's a Llanfair TH in Conwy)... and its other claim to fame is that the UKs first ever Women's Institute was formed there.
    Welsh is spoken by around half of the population of Anglesey, and two thirds of nearby Gwynedd. It is very much a language of everyday communication - all children are taught Welsh at school (and usually in Welsh for primary education I think) and it is not unusual for a child to speak no English until they start going to school - opera singer Bryn Terfel (from Gwynedd) was one such.

  • @zachthelen6049
    @zachthelen6049 4 года назад

    My wife had a stroke trying Fort Michilimackinac in Michigan, but this a few levels beyond that

  • @aaronodonoghue1791
    @aaronodonoghue1791 4 года назад +21

    "Gwy" in English words isn't unheard of (e.g. Gwyneth), and I've heard of triple L in English (e.g. wallless, ballless, skillless, skullless), but not quadruple L.
    As for the absent letters in Welsh, you could argue J wasn't originally part of Welsh either, as it was added for loanwords relatively recently
    Edit: "gwy" only appears to exist in Welsh loanwords in English

    • @DougGlendower
      @DougGlendower 4 года назад +9

      I don't think Gwyneth started out as English.

    • @starlittardis2049
      @starlittardis2049 4 года назад +11

      Gwyneth is a Welsh name.

    • @fnjesusfreak
      @fnjesusfreak 4 года назад +7

      That g-w-y came from Welsh, though.

    • @NimhLabs
      @NimhLabs 4 года назад

      J doesn't appear in most languages until various loanwords being added required it to be added
      I know this due to Dr. Jones Jnr--the one who named himself after the family dog... well, and Dr. Henry Jones Snr as well, too

    • @aaronodonoghue1791
      @aaronodonoghue1791 4 года назад +2

      @@NimhLabs Which languages are you thinking of? I know Welsh is an example, as is Irish (words like jab, jacaí, etc. Although there appear to be dialect words with J like joltaeir and jéiníos, which I have no clue on the origins of), but they're the only 2 I'm certain of, and I know of plenty that use J in native words
      I know French isn't one, neither are German, Spanish, Dutch, Portuguese, Polish, Czech (and probably all Latin script Slavic languages), Hungarian, Finnish, Albanian, or any Scandinavian language
      I'm not 100% on Italian, as I know J isn't in its alphabet, and it uses soft G for the J sound (e.g. Giulia = Julia, giustizia = justice, Giorgio = George, Giuseppe = Joseph), but there are words like Jacopo and Jacuzzi (the guy who made it was of Italian descent)
      Not 100% on Turkish either, although I can't think of a native Turkic word with a J in it (the only ones I know are borrowed, mainly from French and Persian, e.g. ejder (Per), meninjit (Fr), jüri; and "je", the name of the letter J itself), I don't know if there was ever a point when the Turkish alphabet had no J (or whatever letter they used for that sound in the Arabic script back in Ottoman times)

  • @rogerdavies8586
    @rogerdavies8586 3 года назад

    I forgot to say earlier how well you explained the orthography and pronunciation.
    Marianne

  • @KlaxontheImpailr
    @KlaxontheImpailr Год назад

    In the game Frostpunk, one of the preset name options is this town but with New at the start.

  • @habibahsidat831
    @habibahsidat831 3 года назад

    Lol I loved it when u said LinLlanfairflingonplanchinlonfanthiliagogogokh

  • @WaterShowsProd
    @WaterShowsProd 4 года назад

    I just finished watching a newly uploaded episode of Time Team where they were digging in South Wales, refreshed the RUclips home page and this video was there. Now I want to eat leeks.

  • @ifandafydd7432
    @ifandafydd7432 4 года назад

    Fun fact; the road sign at 2:40 is wrong - the Welsh bit reads "New faith layout ahead"

  • @alcarbo8613
    @alcarbo8613 4 года назад +1

    I think English speakers in Wales are getting resentful since they are by far the majority yet it seems the Welsh Government is increasingly treating them like a Minority putting Welsh names first on signs is a great example of this it will be interesting to see what happens in the coming years

  • @larrybrennan1463
    @larrybrennan1463 4 года назад

    Come to Webster, Massachusetts, and take a dip in Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggch
    aubunagungamaugg!

  • @RinaldoDorman
    @RinaldoDorman 4 года назад

    You might also enjoy Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg
    in Massachusetts

  • @ourresidentcockney8776
    @ourresidentcockney8776 4 года назад

    Pronouncing Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch is genuinely my sole party trick. Certainly better than say drinking a keg from the other end...

  • @johndavidcollins6163
    @johndavidcollins6163 4 года назад

    You done quite well and the locals generally do call it LlanfairPG(clanfayrpeejee). There's a record I remember as a child to explain the pronunciation. Although the post card translation usually included a witch who lives in the cave on the island by the Eddie's. The menai straights are known for all the small whirlpools and are dangerous to navigate. Hence the druids knew the route but ceaser didn't and his soldiers didn't want to cross the coupl of hundred metres.

  • @necrocomicon8
    @necrocomicon8 2 года назад

    That is not cheating or coping out at all. Its using resources available to overcome a challange and a very good idea.

  • @micaelsilva
    @micaelsilva 4 года назад

    Great video, I’ve found much interesting the explaining about the welsh language characteristics

  • @gavini1738
    @gavini1738 3 года назад

    I learned to say it like “shlan-vire-push-gween-gish-go-gehr-whern-drobish-shanti-silio-go-go-goch

  • @stevierv22
    @stevierv22 4 года назад

    You should have got the Creaky Blinder for this :)

  • @packi_5
    @packi_5 4 года назад

    Great!!
    Do Bangkok full ceremonial name next