Special shoutout to the Sun and LasFit for helping power our expeditions! Now the more serious question is, does my Tesla (Beluga) look more like an Orca now? If you are curious, watch the solar installation here - ruclips.net/video/ssbnI35QLRA/видео.htmlsi=qHQ1gGonUgqgLj_4
Hello again Sandro. I watched a video where a guy created a way to charge his tesla by adding additional panels. Would this guys project make sense for you? ruclips.net/video/fdexi5azaNE/видео.html
FYI, the Ecoflow Delta 2 Max with 230V output (Europe) doesn't need the grounding plug to charge the Tesla. I guess it's integrated due to the regional norms.
Charging efficiency is apparantly higher from 230/240v to Tesla than with 110/120. I wonder how that compares with the internal eff of the Delta 2 inverter?
I enjoy your content and keep it up! My first EV was a 2018 X 100D and I drove the wheels off it. I put 120k miles on it with free supercharging and the only maintenance I ever did was 2 sets of new tires. Keep up with the great content!
@@EverydaySandrowas an early Rivian reservation holder- June of 22 I received my R1T and Rivian provided a great number for my X. I still have a Tesla and now in 2nd Rivian R1S gen 2.
5:33 You can get a spray bottle with a mix of water and distilled white vinegar to spray onto your dishes and stuff that you want cleaned. And rotate rags when you go to the laundromat. I and some other van lifers find this to be effective.
If you also slapped another 2 sets of those panels on the back window/trunk area you could increase the charge capacity to something a little better. It would still be much better if you could charge directly rather than from ecoflow though ; since you get losses twice. Once into ecoflow, then again out of ecoflow.
That's a fair point actually. I just wanted to keep the system integration as simple as possible, less moving pieces if I have to fix something on the road.
"Houd rem ingedrukt" small easter egg for all Dutch speaking viewers.. 🙂. Beluga in white with these rims and terrain tires looks so bad ass!! Also the solar panel on the hood matches the dark/black theme of the front window, roof and rear window. She is looking awesome bro. Keep going bro and we'll keep watching..
This is pretty cool especially in your use case. I'd do this myself but I wish the panels had more amperage to charge it faster, if you change your thing to percentage instead of milage, it will take hours to gain even one percent. Maybe in the future they'll invent a higher amperage solar panel without having to have them spread all of the place, maybe like a thicker panel or something who knows. But yea this is still pretty cool, nice content!
I've been watching Aptera for years... they are closer than ever to a realized product. I am not convinced they will be a major player in the EV market but the things they are doing will for sure influence the tech for years to come.
Would be cool to develop the solar panel kit which would be tightly integrated into tesla system. So you don't need to open trunk for charging and also the charge will go directly to the battery all the time and car cooling system can help inverter to cool
great test! loved it, I bet if you turn the tesla charging as low as it can go you would get a lot more help from the solar panels and gain even more range!
Hi Sandro, I just stumbled over this video. Besides the interesting content it also shows how valuable V2L would be in all the Teslas, not just in CT. I have just finished building my camping insert to my MY. First testing will start soon. Have fun and hopefuly never need the fire extinguisher, it most likely would be too small anyway 😉
Awesome test! Amazing you can get 6 miles of moving a three ton vehicle with those solar panels. I would invest in a foldable solar panel. Thanks for picking up the trash, there are a few people who ruin it for the rest.
What I am most curious about is how the charging overhead in the Tesla is compared to the eff and loss in the EcoFlow. EcoFlow would be most efficient at some lower rate, but will the overhead of the Tesla being active counteract this when charging over a longer time? Trunk being open may also keep the systems of the Tesla active consuming more than if it was completely shut down and just charging? Tesla recommends to use their Energy App and view the idle drain and their suggestions to reduce it. May be worth a shot?
@1kreature your hunch is probably accurate as everything electronic tends to have ghost draw. It's too bad All EVs don't have at least a 2k inverter charger like you ecoflow integrated. I would pay extra for that.
@@functionalvanconversion4284 I would love for cars to have or be retrofittable with a MPPT style DC source charger as well. Worst part is it is easier than making the cars internal charger really. In theory though many cars could probably take 80-230v DC input and be limited by their rectifiers ratings. Have to remember that the rectifiers are loaded harder on DC than AC and some synchronous systems may not handle DC if they use a bootstrap design. We are charging a DC battery after all, the AC coming in has to either be continously transformed to DC while doing power factor correction or it has to be a 2-stage process that passes by DC regardless.
If keeping things clean is an issue with ‘out of car living’, I recommend getting an ozone aqueous spray. It uses portable water to sanitise and minor deodorise ability too. Can use it for a mouthwash. More effective than your average mouthwash. I use the brand enozo (pro and non-pro) for about 3-4 months now. Game changer. If deodorising is a bigger issue, get a small panasonic nanoex device (i have 2). Keeps the surfaces on the car odour free and has the ability to kill airborne viruses. Fyi - Lexus uses that with their ac on most of their cars now (use to be only in their higher end cars).
It would be sick to get like 2 of these foldable 400W panels, maybe combine each with 1/2 of your taped on panels to reach the 2x 500W max solar input of the Ecoflow and then just put them up and limit the tesla input to around 1kW. Then you could charge with 1kW all day. And there are even tools that you could hack together that regulate the Tesla amp limit according to your solar input. Doesn't have to be perfect, as you have the Ecoflow as a buffer, but roughly to not drain it fully. Could be sick. Edit: Maybe you also can put some smart switch in between and some longer cables on the 400W panels so you can just cut them from the circuit when they're in the trunk and if you throw them out you don't need to connect anything and just flip a switch. That sounds like a chill workflow.
Can you recharge the Ecoflow at a Tesla Supercharger? Does the Ecoflow recharge from the Tesla while the Tesla is supercharging? OR, recharge power station at a different vendor vehicle charge station? Cost vs taking from the Tesla to recharge the power station while driving. Have you considered carrying a larger capacity power station? Can you find a faster recharging power station?
I normally don’t recharge the EcoFlow with the car on remote trips, that’s why I have the solar so there is constant input while the sun shines. I can charge it faster with a regular outlet, but it’s tricky to find one that unattended and free
More car manufacturers should adopt solar charging sooner it's been out there from 40 to 50 year if I am not wrong .. I remember solar charged calculator.. .. but not many gave attention to free source of energy... Thats sad .... Great work bro .
So in summary: 2kWh battery charged 100% solar gives your X 6mi range. Question: how long did it take to charge those 2kWh (I recall a low Amp was used) Question #2: on a sunny day how long does it take to charge the Ecoflow?
Great question. As of now, it takes about 10-15 hours to charge the EcoFlow just purely off solar! It’s also winter and I am in the Northern Hemisphere, so summer time should be a great test. Right now I am testing it all in a Blizzard
You mentioned that you get cold quickly. So I'm curious if you've considered a heated sleeping bag and what the difference in electricity consumption would be for heating the car or heating the sleeping bag. The idea of solar panels on a car is not new, but I'm curious if you could put solar panels on other large surfaces of the car? The roof, the trunk, because you don't always have to drive into the sun. Maybe it would be a good idea to have a custom-made trailer with an additional Tesla battery, and a foldable solar power plant with an automatic sun position tracker on top. For optimal charging of both batteries.
I like to pack as light as possible and towing just doesn’t seam to have many benefits, thanks for the suggestion though. I might add a heated blanket as I already have a 0 degree sleeping bag
High-frequency, transformerless inverters can fry your Tesla's onboard charger and leave you stranded when their MOSFETs fail. You should have installed a low-frequency, transformer-based inverter charger instead.
So we know that light takes about 8 minutes to reach the earth, but you know what’s crazy? From the light wave/molecules perspective, it leaves the sun and bounces off the surface of your skin in the same moment. Time doesn’t exist at light speed.
Yes we do understand the solar was added to top-up the ecoflow. But would be interesting observation how much the solar can top up the beluga in an entire day of sunlight. We need to remember this setup is hardly 20% of the total surface of the car. If Elon will do solar on Tesla, he will do it structural. Basically a factory fitted solar will not add any weight to the over all vehicle if done structural. Rest all component of a solar power generator are already there on an Electric Car. I mean if a model 3 can be topped up like 10-12 mile range that will also be a huge thing for the over all charging needs of the car. The higher models might not be as promising.
@@EverydaySandro I meant with the present setup itself. The one you already have. Please set the charge into Beluga to lowest amp such that the charging continues. This should drain the ecoflow only to the extent that the top-up and the power from ecoflow keeps charging Beluga the longest possible. Am expecting power just from the current size panel on the hood will not be enough to continue charging Beluga. With this how much power we can top-up in to Beluga over the entire day?
Salut Sandro, J'adore tes vidéos et je les visionne régulièrement. BRAVO ! J'ai juste une petite question : Parles-tu français ou Suisse-Allemand car à la fin des vidéos tu dis :" Tschuss" 😉
Sandro, thank you for showing the operations of your solar battery with good presentation. Gypsy yes because you are traveling in different places nothing wrong with that, dirt bag no. I say no because you are no different than any other human kind on this planet including myself. It is unfortunate to see some people do not clean up after themselves, fortunately you have shown an example by cleaning the shell casings on the ground great work. The only concern I have is maybe you have the credentials and are prepared, but it is your safety from external circumstances please stay safe. My Best, ML
Hey ML, thanks for being so kind, and yes, Gipsy is a better word for it now that I look back at it. Its sad how we treat this planet, cause its not like we have another one to habituate as of now :|
keep in mind that sandro shares his experience in youtube so its a motivation for him. think if you are going to feel good without sharing your experience with anybody. salut
Hello again Sandro. I watched a video where a guy created a way to charge his tesla by adding additional panels. RUclips won't let me post the link to another youtube video which makes no sense. update: GoSunSolar channel shows people using this foldable lightweight multipanel setup that allows them to get 500 watts of solar over the entire length of their vehicle.
The f3800 is pretty big and bulky (over 100lbs) and wouldn’t fit in the subtrunk neatly. I have 2 of the F3800s and the smart panel with expansion batteries at home for backup and time shift of energy consumption from the grid. If size didn’t matter, there are some advantages with the f3800 since it has 2 mppt inputs so you could get more panels in or even split the two front panels he already has so if one is shaded, it wouldn’t impact the total solar input as much.
I have solar and a powerwall 3. Wanted more capacity but with powerwalls you need to go through an installer - at the the time installer didn’t have access to quote expansions. I had previously ordered the Anker F3800 during their initial kickstarter program. Had my doubts on how they would work with my powerwall 3 set up. Originally planned on using it as a manual generator like set up but reading through the installation, the smart panel takes care of the charging and feeding the load. Installation was easy - found some spare slots on my main panel and put in the 100amp breaker and ran the two loads, neutral and ground to the smart panel. Then you just plug in the f3800s into the smart panel. You have the option to wire up a back up panel but my set up with the Powerwall 3, I didn’t have to move any circuits from my existing panel since during a grid power outage, the Powerwall 3 would start supplying power and the Anker smart panel would see that there is still power so it’ll continue to feed back to the main panel. If I didn’t have the Powerwall 3, I would need to move circuits over to a back up panel if I wanted the Anker to provide back up power. The only drawback with this set up is that the Ankers will only supply up to 6kW to main panel vs 12kW to a backup panel. The X1 wasn’t available at the time but the advantage of the F3800 is that it is “portable” and easy to take with me. During the last big windstorm in OH, we had a friend lose power for days and we were not impacted in our area and when I found out, was able to lend him a F3800 and several expansion batteries to power his fridge and freezer and other necessities.
Hi i like your channel I am rebuilding a boat to electric just to get the same life like you have with your car. If i been honnest with you i would get more sollar pannels on your car. It seems like a lot of money ( ecoflow end these sollar panels) to only get 6 miles of range. I understand it for sure but you wil be even more happy wit some extra sollar input. Greets niels from belgium.😊😊😊
Hey Niels! Dat is een leuke uitdaging om een boot om te bouwen! Veel succes! En ja, ik denk zelf wel dat dit de moeite waard is voor mijn soort reizen die ik maak
Camry Hybrid gets 650 miles on a tank of gas, and then just 5 minutes to refill the tank. Gas stations are everywhere. Camry owners will never have to trickle-charge a battery with small and weak solar panels.
You do save time there, but the regular maintenance is a killer for me which is added time back to the puml station😉. And I can’t imagine pushing into the wilderness being so loud, I like camping quietly
@@EverydaySandro _the regular maintenance is a killer for me_ There is no regular maintenance on a Camry. Just cheap oil changes every 4 months, tires every 3 or 4 years, and engine air filter once in a while. Cheap and easy and fast. Brakes need service every few years, just like the Tesla. _I can’t imagine pushing into the wilderness being so loud_ A Camry is certainly not loud! You are kidding, right? 😀
You previously said that these were something like 150 watt panels (now you're saying 120 watts). ****IF**** you could get full power for 10hrs a day, you'd make 2.4kwh with 120 watt panels per day, which as far as I understand, most EVs will get between 2 and 4 miles per khw. Which means at most and with that big giant IF, you would get 9.6 miles with 120 watt panels per day. The problem is that big giant IF. The reality is you will NOT get 100% out of the panels for 10hrs out of the day even if they were facing the sun perfectly all day long. You'll likely only see roughly 3 hours out of the day where you even get close to 100% out of those panels and that's *if* you're driving and getting some airflow over them to help keep them cooler, because hot panels will lose an easy 20% + of their rated capacity to create power (more important in Summer than Winter). You almost certainly won't have those panels facing the sun all day long because as you drive you're at the mercy of direction of travel to get to your destination. Which means you can't just drive and face the sun the whole time. You can help push things in your favor by parking facing in favor of the sun when you're not driving. Then you can add to that shadows from trucks or other vehicles while you drive, or even a cloudy day, etc. My guess is you will be lucky to average an extra couple or three miles per day. Keep in mind that what we saw in this video was a nearly full solar generator being used to charge the car. What we didn't see was how long it took to get that solar generator to full. Signed: Someone who employs the use of several panels, mppts, inverters, logging tools, etc.
And that's without going into Inverter losses IF you're using the Solar Generator to collect the power from the panels and THEN charge the car. Inverter losses would be another 20% pretty easy.
@@HutchinsonJC 1 it’s a passion projects. And it offsets a lot of of the other things he does in his car. Besides driving. I.e. he doesn’t have to pull power from the main battery for a lot of things and it does actually put a significant dent in things that aren’t the big battery. Cooking, other items, and some amount of AC
True, although I think if I remember correctly the original goal was to use it for accessories. The idea of solar powered vehicle using the space of the vehicle and not relying on a massive solar farm is not likely to ever give a full range in a single day. Same idea with using a gasoline or diesel generator to get some ev miles, it works technically but it's just not efficient. I would however like to see a turbo hydrogen fuel cell and small engine in the Tesla frunk and trunk to potentially generate electricity. Maybe use solar to help With the water separating into the hydrogen and a small vacuum pump to store the gas into small tanks. if going that route. Otherwise it might be better to go to a hydgroen station powered by solar and cheap water source, which defeats the purpose again. Could probably work on a massive RV though Or bike
Thorough appreaciate your input. You are right, the initial peak watt output of these panels are 120 watts each, so 240 watts overall. I actually charged my EcoFlow with 236 watts yesterday which was awesome. I am actually not worried about all the math, just enjoying the life on the road, and continue to push boundaries using this new setup. Thanks for being here and sharing your perspective
Hey, I really enjoyed the video, it was full of useful information and fun. However, I have to honestly say that when I heard about Patreon and exclusivity at the end, I lost interest. I feel that the content should be available to everyone, not just those who can afford to contribute. I understand that Patreon is a way for some creators to get support, but I don't like when content becomes exclusive or when those who can't afford to pay are made to feel less valued. I think the creator should be grateful for having a community and should show that gratitude mainly to the largest community, which is on RUclips. This community is key to their growth, and without it, they wouldn't have a base. I have a bit of an issue when someone treats RUclips as 'second-class' and thinks that their work is less valuable without paying supporters. I enjoy watching quality content without pressure to contribute, so I’ve decided not to use that option. Still, thank you for the video, and I look forward to more.
I'm always striving to make the best content I can, I appreciate your honest feedback. Many people had been asking how they could support my journey through Central America so that’s why I launched my Patreon. I don’t like a physical barrier of entry either, but it’s a safe and secure way for people to donate meaning that I also don’t have to run non-sense ads in my video. RUclips gifts are great too, BUT, RUclips takes a very big cut and is very unreliable. I am growing organically! Thank you for your feedback
Lol the mustache is better off. That being said if you grew it thick it would look good, but you will have some time of it not looking great while it grows out. Awesome video.
I could a fill a bath using an eyedropper.......but its a pointless exercise, your basically doing the same thing with solar panels......sure it works, but the time it takes, for the benefit gained, isnt worth the effort.
@EverydaySandro hey if you think spending so much time, trickle charging a battery is worth it, then that's on you. Calculate how much time you sit around waiting for some minuscule gains & ask yourself could your time be better spent doing something more productive?? Perhaps you don't value your time very much!
Why not install three 100-watt solar panels🌞 on the roof, like I did with my plug-in Prius? ruclips.net/video/HVVVgFAexlE/видео.html May I ask what your budget is for the panels please ? 🧐
These Solar panels are about 3K. They are custom designed and not mass produced, as normally these kind of solar modules are used for solar races for their endurance and efficiency
@@EverydaySandro Thanks, Sandro, for your reply-very cool! One day, I’ll give it a shot too. I’m still wondering if adding solar panels to the sides of the car might also help. I plan to run some tests on the Prius in the near future. Definitely more complex, and I haven’t seen any RUclips channels covering it yet. Wishing you all the best, dude! 😊
@ not at all, I want to be transparent as these were given to me for my Central America expedition. MitoSolar makes custom panels, so each project varies on pricing, but these are about $3K!
Thanks for sharing but be careful going to Mexico. Especially with the US immigration laws going right now and cartel being upset. I hope and pray that you don’t become a target especially having a Tesla X.
I tesla has temperature control. I guess it depends on what mode he leaves the vehicle in. He did say the software update shuts down the electrical power if away from the car. Error?😊
$4k for the solar panels for a really slow charge definitely doesn't seem like it's worth it unless you get the panels free. There's an interview where Elon basically states this, but it's cool you did it for science.
@@gq12o but it's really a fantasy world you are living in, not the middle of nowhere. You have other limiting factors of 'living in the middle of nowhere' like sanity, food, etc
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Special shoutout to the Sun and LasFit for helping power our expeditions! Now the more serious question is, does my Tesla (Beluga) look more like an Orca now?
If you are curious, watch the solar installation here - ruclips.net/video/ssbnI35QLRA/видео.htmlsi=qHQ1gGonUgqgLj_4
Hello again Sandro. I watched a video where a guy created a way to charge his tesla by adding additional panels. Would this guys project make sense for you? ruclips.net/video/fdexi5azaNE/видео.html
FYI, the Ecoflow Delta 2 Max with 230V output (Europe) doesn't need the grounding plug to charge the Tesla. I guess it's integrated due to the regional norms.
Cool , just started looking, ran 400 feet short of charger, and saved by a passing cybertruck. 10 to 20 min in my S good to go
Charging efficiency is apparantly higher from 230/240v to Tesla than with 110/120.
I wonder how that compares with the internal eff of the Delta 2 inverter?
That's wild!
I enjoy your content and keep it up! My first EV was a 2018 X 100D and I drove the wheels off it. I put 120k miles on it with free supercharging and the only maintenance I ever did was 2 sets of new tires. Keep up with the great content!
That is awesome, thanks for sharing your experience! Why’d you sell it?
@@EverydaySandrowas an early Rivian reservation holder- June of 22 I received my R1T and Rivian provided a great number for my X. I still have a Tesla and now in 2nd Rivian R1S gen 2.
@ oh niceeee! A nice trade in is always awesome!
5:33 You can get a spray bottle with a mix of water and distilled white vinegar to spray onto your dishes and stuff that you want cleaned. And rotate rags when you go to the laundromat. I and some other van lifers find this to be effective.
That’s wonderful advice actually! I am doing this tomorrow, easy clean up now
Great video. 6 miles out of the ecoflow seems about right. It is not much, but it beats pushing the car if you are 5 miles away. Lol
Absolutely, Beluga is heavy!
Dude, you are awesome for keeping the environment nice even it's not your doing.
I do this on a regular basis, that’s why I have a BIG bin
I’m surprised you don’t have a few ground panels stored just to lay out on the ground when your in places where it doesn’t matter like the desert
If you also slapped another 2 sets of those panels on the back window/trunk area you could increase the charge capacity to something a little better. It would still be much better if you could charge directly rather than from ecoflow though ; since you get losses twice. Once into ecoflow, then again out of ecoflow.
That's a fair point actually. I just wanted to keep the system integration as simple as possible, less moving pieces if I have to fix something on the road.
@EverydaySandro yeah I figured as much, simplicity is important. Keep it up!
@ absolutely, I am honestly super lazy too
Great video! Love seeing these tests. Hope you review the vortipower device in the future.
I'm always testing and reviewing new things.
Honestly this is the first time I watched the ad in video ur videos are great bro .
Glad you like them! I am VERY picky when it comes to running ads, I do think they have a very valuable product and are a BLAST to work with
"Houd rem ingedrukt" small easter egg for all Dutch speaking viewers.. 🙂. Beluga in white with these rims and terrain tires looks so bad ass!! Also the solar panel on the hood matches the dark/black theme of the front window, roof and rear window. She is looking awesome bro. Keep going bro and we'll keep watching..
Zeker een easter egg! Bedankt voor het kijken, en ik het met je eens, beluga ziet er echt ziek uit! STEALTHY
This is pretty cool especially in your use case. I'd do this myself but I wish the panels had more amperage to charge it faster, if you change your thing to percentage instead of milage, it will take hours to gain even one percent. Maybe in the future they'll invent a higher amperage solar panel without having to have them spread all of the place, maybe like a thicker panel or something who knows. But yea this is still pretty cool, nice content!
Yeah, it definitely takes a while to charge up, but for me, it’s the perfect way to travel. Thanks for being here!
Awesome bro🎉. I drive 2024 tesla red X. Love the car but your Solar in the hood is awesome
Thanks! I think the Red X is awesome too! A Red Beluga😉
12:43 this is why I like this channel. This is why I like this person. See the planet and leave it better.
Just being myself, I do it way more often than I have recorded. I honestly have a big bucket for that reason :). Thanks for being here
Aptera Is definitely going to be the car for you. Look them up and send in a investment to help them get to production. 40 miles a day from solar.
I've been watching Aptera for years... they are closer than ever to a realized product. I am not convinced they will be a major player in the EV market but the things they are doing will for sure influence the tech for years to come.
Great video Sandro, hit Ecoflow up for a larger system? The new pro 3 is double the capacity. Best of luck!
For sure, I just don’t want a bigger battery to carry around consider I don’t have the space
Another excellent video, Sandro! Thank you.
Glad you liked it! Cheers!
Would be cool to develop the solar panel kit which would be tightly integrated into tesla system. So you don't need to open trunk for charging and also the charge will go directly to the battery all the time and car cooling system can help inverter to cool
I would love to try but I am nervous tapping into the HV battery
great test! loved it, I bet if you turn the tesla charging as low as it can go you would get a lot more help from the solar panels and gain even more range!
The increased wind resistance will almost certainly decrease the range.
@@davidlloyd1526 is it that inefficient ? thats crazy.
True. Energy loss goes with the square of current. 2x lower current, 4x lower energy loss in wires and electronics.
Great point!
I think it’s fantastic idea really your out camping enjoying nature while getting some energy from the sun glad to see your enjoying life 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for hanging out with us!
Hi Sandro, I just stumbled over this video. Besides the interesting content it also shows how valuable V2L would be in all the Teslas, not just in CT.
I have just finished building my camping insert to my MY. First testing will start soon.
Have fun and hopefuly never need the fire extinguisher, it most likely would be too small anyway 😉
Great point! Would love to see your build too! Send me a DM or Message on X!
Sandro i love ur videos thank you so much for making this type of content it's really great
Glad you enjoy it! Love that you are spending time with us!
I love your channel bro. I got myself a 2023 Tesla Model 3 Performance. I love it more than my 1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
Right on! Thanks for hanging out with us!
Awesome test! Amazing you can get 6 miles of moving a three ton vehicle with those solar panels. I would invest in a foldable solar panel. Thanks for picking up the trash, there are a few people who ruin it for the rest.
Yes indeed! Thanks for watching! I just love spending time out and about and its soooo worth it having these panels
What I am most curious about is how the charging overhead in the Tesla is compared to the eff and loss in the EcoFlow.
EcoFlow would be most efficient at some lower rate, but will the overhead of the Tesla being active counteract this when charging over a longer time?
Trunk being open may also keep the systems of the Tesla active consuming more than if it was completely shut down and just charging?
Tesla recommends to use their Energy App and view the idle drain and their suggestions to reduce it. May be worth a shot?
@1kreature your hunch is probably accurate as everything electronic tends to have ghost draw. It's too bad All EVs don't have at least a 2k inverter charger like you ecoflow integrated. I would pay extra for that.
@@functionalvanconversion4284 I would love for cars to have or be retrofittable with a MPPT style DC source charger as well. Worst part is it is easier than making the cars internal charger really. In theory though many cars could probably take 80-230v DC input and be limited by their rectifiers ratings. Have to remember that the rectifiers are loaded harder on DC than AC and some synchronous systems may not handle DC if they use a bootstrap design.
We are charging a DC battery after all, the AC coming in has to either be continously transformed to DC while doing power factor correction or it has to be a 2-stage process that passes by DC regardless.
@1kreature Your understanding is beyond mine it seems, but it sounds like you are the guy for testing and developing a new product👍.
If keeping things clean is an issue with ‘out of car living’, I recommend getting an ozone aqueous spray. It uses portable water to sanitise and minor deodorise ability too.
Can use it for a mouthwash. More effective than your average mouthwash.
I use the brand enozo (pro and non-pro) for about 3-4 months now. Game changer.
If deodorising is a bigger issue, get a small panasonic nanoex device (i have 2). Keeps the surfaces on the car odour free and has the ability to kill airborne viruses. Fyi - Lexus uses that with their ac on most of their cars now (use to be only in their higher end cars).
Great tip! Doing some adjustments today, thanks for the thorough input!
It would be sick to get like 2 of these foldable 400W panels, maybe combine each with 1/2 of your taped on panels to reach the 2x 500W max solar input of the Ecoflow and then just put them up and limit the tesla input to around 1kW. Then you could charge with 1kW all day. And there are even tools that you could hack together that regulate the Tesla amp limit according to your solar input. Doesn't have to be perfect, as you have the Ecoflow as a buffer, but roughly to not drain it fully. Could be sick. Edit: Maybe you also can put some smart switch in between and some longer cables on the 400W panels so you can just cut them from the circuit when they're in the trunk and if you throw them out you don't need to connect anything and just flip a switch. That sounds like a chill workflow.
Actually a great tip, I am looking at all the possibilities
Can you recharge the Ecoflow at a Tesla Supercharger?
Does the Ecoflow recharge from the Tesla while the Tesla is supercharging?
OR, recharge power station at a different vendor vehicle charge station?
Cost vs taking from the Tesla to recharge the power station while driving.
Have you considered carrying a larger capacity power station?
Can you find a faster recharging power station?
I normally don’t recharge the EcoFlow with the car on remote trips, that’s why I have the solar so there is constant input while the sun shines. I can charge it faster with a regular outlet, but it’s tricky to find one that unattended and free
More car manufacturers should adopt solar charging sooner it's been out there from 40 to 50 year if I am not wrong .. I remember solar charged calculator.. .. but not many gave attention to free source of energy... Thats sad .... Great work bro
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So in summary: 2kWh battery charged 100% solar gives your X 6mi range.
Question: how long did it take to charge those 2kWh (I recall a low Amp was used)
Question #2: on a sunny day how long does it take to charge the Ecoflow?
Great question. As of now, it takes about 10-15 hours to charge the EcoFlow just purely off solar! It’s also winter and I am in the Northern Hemisphere, so summer time should be a great test. Right now I am testing it all in a Blizzard
You mentioned that you get cold quickly. So I'm curious if you've considered a heated sleeping bag and what the difference in electricity consumption would be for heating the car or heating the sleeping bag. The idea of solar panels on a car is not new, but I'm curious if you could put solar panels on other large surfaces of the car? The roof, the trunk, because you don't always have to drive into the sun. Maybe it would be a good idea to have a custom-made trailer with an additional Tesla battery, and a foldable solar power plant with an automatic sun position tracker on top. For optimal charging of both batteries.
I like to pack as light as possible and towing just doesn’t seam to have many benefits, thanks for the suggestion though. I might add a heated blanket as I already have a 0 degree sleeping bag
Heated blanket would be nice for sleeping, ecoflow can give power to the blanket.
That’s a great suggestion actually! Any recommendations?
High-frequency, transformerless inverters can fry your Tesla's onboard charger and leave you stranded when their MOSFETs fail. You should have installed a low-frequency, transformer-based inverter charger instead.
You should remove of the dust on the solar panels, it makes a huge difference on efficiency
Its a morning routine now :)
@EverydaySandro Thanks for replying, i wish you the best of luck for your 2025 journey
@@xxtrengt8871 Thank you! It will be an adventurous year for sure
Present Bro from the Philippines 🙋
Thanks for coming!
So we know that light takes about 8 minutes to reach the earth, but you know what’s crazy? From the light wave/molecules perspective, it leaves the sun and bounces off the surface of your skin in the same moment. Time doesn’t exist at light speed.
@@dylanwhite6539 wild right?!!
plx have some foldable solarpanels you can easy get 1kw input
Great advice, but I honestly won't use them because I don't like setting things up, especially when its windy!
Any car can keep up with the cybertruck. haha
Yes we do understand the solar was added to top-up the ecoflow. But would be interesting observation how much the solar can top up the beluga in an entire day of sunlight. We need to remember this setup is hardly 20% of the total surface of the car. If Elon will do solar on Tesla, he will do it structural. Basically a factory fitted solar will not add any weight to the over all vehicle if done structural. Rest all component of a solar power generator are already there on an Electric Car. I mean if a model 3 can be topped up like 10-12 mile range that will also be a huge thing for the over all charging needs of the car. The higher models might not be as promising.
For sure would be interesting, what panels do you suggest I get?
@@EverydaySandro I meant with the present setup itself. The one you already have. Please set the charge into Beluga to lowest amp such that the charging continues. This should drain the ecoflow only to the extent that the top-up and the power from ecoflow keeps charging Beluga the longest possible. Am expecting power just from the current size panel on the hood will not be enough to continue charging Beluga. With this how much power we can top-up in to Beluga over the entire day?
@ that’s a really good idea actually, thank you for telling me this! Yes, I think so, time for some more testing
How long to fill the batteries back up
A few months.
This is about a days worth of charging using the Solar!
2:13 are you sure you are not blocking the air vents on your eco flow? cool video btw
It’s been alright, now we are testing it in a blizzard
@@EverydaySandro the vents are likely more needed when weather is hot, you may at least want to keep an eye on temps in the app during the heat
You should extend the solar panel on doors, on the roof, on the trunk )
Wondering if you can solar charge while you drive?
As of now, no :/
Salut Sandro, J'adore tes vidéos et je les visionne régulièrement. BRAVO ! J'ai juste une petite question : Parles-tu français ou Suisse-Allemand car à la fin des vidéos tu dis :" Tschuss" 😉
Thank you! Cheers.
Sandro, thank you for showing the operations of your solar battery with good presentation. Gypsy yes because you are traveling in different places nothing wrong with that, dirt bag no. I say no because you are no different than any other human kind on this planet including myself. It is unfortunate to see some people do not clean up after themselves, fortunately you have shown an example by cleaning the shell casings on the ground great work. The only concern I have is maybe you have the credentials and are prepared, but it is your safety from external circumstances please stay safe. My Best, ML
Hey ML, thanks for being so kind, and yes, Gipsy is a better word for it now that I look back at it. Its sad how we treat this planet, cause its not like we have another one to habituate as of now :|
@@EverydaySandro You have my support for sure Sandro thank you for the reply!
Read it hear it take what you want and drop the noise
Considering additional portable solar panels ?
I am lazy and too much of an hassle to setup honestly
i wanna do this so bad with my tesla just too scared, i wanna travel like this...
Life is just a big experiment, and if you mess up, buy a new hood on Ebay
theres a guy on youtbe channel called "power of light" he talks about his set up and his trip across the US with only solar.
keep in mind that sandro shares his experience in youtube so its a motivation for him. think if you are going to feel good without sharing your experience with anybody. salut
Have you had any problems with the falcon doors?
Just a lot of rubbing against the paint, probably because of my off-road habits.
Hello again Sandro. I watched a video where a guy created a way to charge his tesla by adding additional panels. RUclips won't let me post the link to another youtube video which makes no sense. update: GoSunSolar channel shows people using this foldable lightweight multipanel setup that allows them to get 500 watts of solar over the entire length of their vehicle.
I have seen this! I am looking into it, but they haven’t come to market yet if I am not mistaken! Thanks for watching and sharing this
how is 240w doing anything? 3600w 120v solar on my m3p takes 2 days for 25%??????????????????????
Anker F3800 is 240v at 24amps and doesn’t need a grounding plug.
The f3800 is pretty big and bulky (over 100lbs) and wouldn’t fit in the subtrunk neatly. I have 2 of the F3800s and the smart panel with expansion batteries at home for backup and time shift of energy consumption from the grid. If size didn’t matter, there are some advantages with the f3800 since it has 2 mppt inputs so you could get more panels in or even split the two front panels he already has so if one is shaded, it wouldn’t impact the total solar input as much.
@ that’s awesome. how do you like that setup? Do you have solar as well? Why did you choose F3800 vs Solix X1?
I have solar and a powerwall 3. Wanted more capacity but with powerwalls you need to go through an installer - at the the time installer didn’t have access to quote expansions. I had previously ordered the Anker F3800 during their initial kickstarter program. Had my doubts on how they would work with my powerwall 3 set up. Originally planned on using it as a manual generator like set up but reading through the installation, the smart panel takes care of the charging and feeding the load. Installation was easy - found some spare slots on my main panel and put in the 100amp breaker and ran the two loads, neutral and ground to the smart panel. Then you just plug in the f3800s into the smart panel. You have the option to wire up a back up panel but my set up with the Powerwall 3, I didn’t have to move any circuits from my existing panel since during a grid power outage, the Powerwall 3 would start supplying power and the Anker smart panel would see that there is still power so it’ll continue to feed back to the main panel. If I didn’t have the Powerwall 3, I would need to move circuits over to a back up panel if I wanted the Anker to provide back up power. The only drawback with this set up is that the Ankers will only supply up to 6kW to main panel vs 12kW to a backup panel. The X1 wasn’t available at the time but the advantage of the F3800 is that it is “portable” and easy to take with me. During the last big windstorm in OH, we had a friend lose power for days and we were not impacted in our area and when I found out, was able to lend him a F3800 and several expansion batteries to power his fridge and freezer and other necessities.
Hi i like your channel
I am rebuilding a boat to electric just to get the same life like you have with your car.
If i been honnest with you i would get more sollar pannels on your car.
It seems like a lot of money ( ecoflow end these sollar panels) to only get 6 miles of range.
I understand it for sure but you wil be even more happy wit some extra sollar input.
Greets niels from belgium.😊😊😊
Hey Niels! Dat is een leuke uitdaging om een boot om te bouwen! Veel succes! En ja, ik denk zelf wel dat dit de moeite waard is voor mijn soort reizen die ik maak
A couple of portable panels would have made a lot more sense. I'm no fun at parties
You are the party! I might look into later on!
Amperage is what is important.
Camry Hybrid gets 650 miles on a tank of gas, and then just 5 minutes to refill the tank. Gas stations are everywhere.
Camry owners will never have to trickle-charge a battery with small and weak solar panels.
You do save time there, but the regular maintenance is a killer for me which is added time back to the puml station😉. And I can’t imagine pushing into the wilderness being so loud, I like camping quietly
@@EverydaySandro _the regular maintenance is a killer for me_
There is no regular maintenance on a Camry. Just cheap oil changes every 4 months, tires every 3 or 4 years, and engine air filter once in a while. Cheap and easy and fast. Brakes need service every few years, just like the Tesla.
_I can’t imagine pushing into the wilderness being so loud_
A Camry is certainly not loud! You are kidding, right? 😀
Thanks for cleaning up after others!
All of us can make a difference. It truly bothers me :/
You previously said that these were something like 150 watt panels (now you're saying 120 watts). ****IF**** you could get full power for 10hrs a day, you'd make 2.4kwh with 120 watt panels per day, which as far as I understand, most EVs will get between 2 and 4 miles per khw. Which means at most and with that big giant IF, you would get 9.6 miles with 120 watt panels per day.
The problem is that big giant IF. The reality is you will NOT get 100% out of the panels for 10hrs out of the day even if they were facing the sun perfectly all day long. You'll likely only see roughly 3 hours out of the day where you even get close to 100% out of those panels and that's *if* you're driving and getting some airflow over them to help keep them cooler, because hot panels will lose an easy 20% + of their rated capacity to create power (more important in Summer than Winter).
You almost certainly won't have those panels facing the sun all day long because as you drive you're at the mercy of direction of travel to get to your destination. Which means you can't just drive and face the sun the whole time. You can help push things in your favor by parking facing in favor of the sun when you're not driving.
Then you can add to that shadows from trucks or other vehicles while you drive, or even a cloudy day, etc.
My guess is you will be lucky to average an extra couple or three miles per day.
Keep in mind that what we saw in this video was a nearly full solar generator being used to charge the car. What we didn't see was how long it took to get that solar generator to full.
Signed: Someone who employs the use of several panels, mppts, inverters, logging tools, etc.
And that's without going into Inverter losses IF you're using the Solar Generator to collect the power from the panels and THEN charge the car. Inverter losses would be another 20% pretty easy.
Well said
@@HutchinsonJC 1 it’s a passion projects. And it offsets a lot of of the other things he does in his car. Besides driving. I.e. he doesn’t have to pull power from the main battery for a lot of things and it does actually put a significant dent in things that aren’t the big battery. Cooking, other items, and some amount of AC
True, although I think if I remember correctly the original goal was to use it for accessories. The idea of solar powered vehicle using the space of the vehicle and not relying on a massive solar farm is not likely to ever give a full range in a single day. Same idea with using a gasoline or diesel generator to get some ev miles, it works technically but it's just not efficient. I would however like to see a turbo hydrogen fuel cell and small engine in the Tesla frunk and trunk to potentially generate electricity. Maybe use solar to help With the water separating into the hydrogen and a small vacuum pump to store the gas into small tanks. if going that route. Otherwise it might be better to go to a hydgroen station powered by solar and cheap water source, which defeats the purpose again. Could probably work on a massive RV though Or bike
Thorough appreaciate your input. You are right, the initial peak watt output of these panels are 120 watts each, so 240 watts overall. I actually charged my EcoFlow with 236 watts yesterday which was awesome. I am actually not worried about all the math, just enjoying the life on the road, and continue to push boundaries using this new setup. Thanks for being here and sharing your perspective
How many total miles do you currently have on your Tesla?
67K
Good video!!
Thank you!
Hey, I really enjoyed the video, it was full of useful information and fun. However, I have to honestly say that when I heard about Patreon and exclusivity at the end, I lost interest. I feel that the content should be available to everyone, not just those who can afford to contribute. I understand that Patreon is a way for some creators to get support, but I don't like when content becomes exclusive or when those who can't afford to pay are made to feel less valued.
I think the creator should be grateful for having a community and should show that gratitude mainly to the largest community, which is on RUclips. This community is key to their growth, and without it, they wouldn't have a base. I have a bit of an issue when someone treats RUclips as 'second-class' and thinks that their work is less valuable without paying supporters.
I enjoy watching quality content without pressure to contribute, so I’ve decided not to use that option. Still, thank you for the video, and I look forward to more.
I'm always striving to make the best content I can, I appreciate your honest feedback. Many people had been asking how they could support my journey through Central America so that’s why I launched my Patreon. I don’t like a physical barrier of entry either, but it’s a safe and secure way for people to donate meaning that I also don’t have to run non-sense ads in my video. RUclips gifts are great too, BUT, RUclips takes a very big cut and is very unreliable. I am growing organically! Thank you for your feedback
Embrace that dirtbag moniker. Glad to support your channel.
I appreciate it, I think dirtbag is a good descriptor sometimes or gipsy!
Have you looked into the EcoFlow 800W inverter yet? Should be ideal for you to charge your EcoFlow using the Tesla high voltage battery. Let us know.
Not sure if I want to mess with the HV system
The next new Tesla will be the Model SS.
Never engage lane keep assist, it will drag you to the far right.
Lol the mustache is better off. That being said if you grew it thick it would look good, but you will have some time of it not looking great while it grows out.
Awesome video.
Thanks for the tips! Maybe I decide to grow it again once I am off grid again for a while! As always, thanks for hanging here!
I could a fill a bath using an eyedropper.......but its a pointless exercise, your basically doing the same thing with solar panels......sure it works, but the time it takes, for the benefit gained, isnt worth the effort.
If you say so, Beluga and are happy with the install and still roaming wildly free :)
@EverydaySandro hey if you think spending so much time, trickle charging a battery is worth it, then that's on you.
Calculate how much time you sit around waiting for some minuscule gains & ask yourself could your time be better spent doing something more productive??
Perhaps you don't value your time very much!
If nothing else it can offset some phantom drain and in a pinch it may be what allows him to get down to a town and a charger.
3:02 I noticed that the language chosen is Dutch on your Tesla's screen. Do you speak Dutch?
Yes, Dutch is my native tongue. Born in the Netherlands. Great eye
Now it just needs the rest of the car wrapped but everything connected directly into the cars battery instead of the Ecoflow
DONE! haha, maybe sometime in the future
You should keep the mustache, definitely gives you more street cred
Blend in right?
Why not install three 100-watt solar panels🌞 on the roof, like I did with my plug-in Prius? ruclips.net/video/HVVVgFAexlE/видео.html
May I ask what your budget is for the panels please ? 🧐
These Solar panels are about 3K. They are custom designed and not mass produced, as normally these kind of solar modules are used for solar races for their endurance and efficiency
@@EverydaySandro Thanks, Sandro, for your reply-very cool! One day, I’ll give it a shot too. I’m still wondering if adding solar panels to the sides of the car might also help. I plan to run some tests on the Prius in the near future. Definitely more complex, and I haven’t seen any RUclips channels covering it yet. Wishing you all the best, dude! 😊
What crazy stuff have you done to your car?!
@@EverydaySandro Would it be too bold to ask about the price of those solar panels? I’m considering taking the leap myself, but I’m a little hesitant.
@ not at all, I want to be transparent as these were given to me for my Central America expedition. MitoSolar makes custom panels, so each project varies on pricing, but these are about $3K!
More numbers, app screenshots and such on screen and less numbers talk. I think it would help to retain more of us "number nerds"
Yes sir!
Copper is natural to the earth.
TLDW somebody spoil it to me
Thanks for sharing but be careful going to Mexico. Especially with the US immigration laws going right now and cartel being upset. I hope and pray that you don’t become a target especially having a Tesla X.
Thank you! Appreciate you
That's nice❤❤❤❤
Thanks
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Warm in Fl
Cozy here too! Thanks for being here
Almost nothing. Won't even cover the cost of the panels.
If you say so :)
Your EcoFlow device does not have sufficient ventilation during the Summer.
I tesla has temperature control. I guess it depends on what mode he leaves the vehicle in. He did say the software update shuts down the electrical power if away from the car. Error?😊
I wonder if a temporary solar panel over the inside dash board will charge.
I love those power banks that inflate tires. I have a Gooloo power bank that charges and discharges at 100watts as well.
Just put gas in it bro
I can’t afford gas
0:13 are you not allowed to say money on RUclips?
I can, I think my voice did cutout just a tad, good ear!
Buy a Tesla and support the global ‘Right Wing’ movement.
Musk has ruined these nice cars.
Disagree with you here! I try to look at what the company stands for and the industries they are changing
$4k for the solar panels for a really slow charge definitely doesn't seem like it's worth it unless you get the panels free. There's an interview where Elon basically states this, but it's cool you did it for science.
@@user-kw2hs8eu1s I feel like having even a slow charger in the middle of nowhere is priceless.
@@gq12o but it's really a fantasy world you are living in, not the middle of nowhere. You have other limiting factors of 'living in the middle of nowhere' like sanity, food, etc
Been to the Arctic Ocean and we survived with minimal range ;)
@@EverydaySandro hm are you able to live 100% off youtube income for your travels?
@ more or less, it’s definitely not stable and once in a while I might skip a meal😉. I do some freelance editing on the side and just live mindfully!
Thanks for the video. Be careful in Mexico.
Thank you, I will!
subscribe and like and comment. good luck
Cheers! Happy for you to be here
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Carrying all that weight to get 50w-120w yeah this must be a joke 😂
I am serious - Beluga