Sipover's Video is AWFUL. Here's Why.
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- I don't like @Sipover's video because of the incorrect things he said in it, so i proved them all wrong!
Note: i did not copy @_gerg by making this video. i made it before he released his, but because of irl stuff, i had to delay my own video.
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Before some of you comment about Gerg’s video, I made this video before him. But because of irl stuff I had to delay my video a lot. Also almost-if not-none of the points I mention are the same as Gerg’s.
seems true enough
Modern Minecraft isn’t worse, it’s just different. And thats what ppl hate about modern Minecraft. Minecraft changed its atmosphere with new music and new textures. Thats also why so many ppl lose their fun to Minecraft. I have the same problem. Since the new ore textures and new Minecraft music.(That isn’t bad but that doesn’t fit with the old atmosphere.), I can no longer enjoy the game anymore.I wish i could change Minecraft versions on Pocket and Bedrock but this is sadly not possible.
@@latussu5it’s probably because of nostalgia and growing up to like different things.
@@luigiweegee7152 Its more like the second thing. Growing up to like different things. I just hate replacements:(
Thats also why i my dads new car because i miss the old ones we once had in my early childhood (2009-2016).
@@luigiweegee7152 I can also remember, watching a video back then about the new ore texture before the caves and cliffs update and i was upset and hoping, that this video were just a prank, because I knew, that the new textures would destroy my experience of the game. I wish, we bedrock and pocket players hab a own launcher, we’re we could change the versions like on Java:(
Videos like Sipover’s are basically a byproduct of playing the exact same game for over a decade without ever cleansing your pallet.
Yeah true
It’s like eating only one food for a year and complaining that it tastes worse
No, new minecraft is objectively boring, maybe I will make a video on how the points in this vid are invalid
@@Thunderbolt18367 please don't even reply to them this WILL turn into an endless argument
@@notnotiron ahh yes new features and more things to do is boring.
He doesn’t miss old Minecraft, he misses being young
Nostalgia called. They want sipover to make a bad video. *So he did.*
I disagree. Personally, I never played Beta, but that's the main version I play. It's not about "missing being young"; it's about older versions genuinely being awesome. Dialko made a very good video about this if you're interested, called "It's not nostalgia. Old Minecraft WAS great."
*I never played beta when it was released, but it's the main version I play now
I dont miss her, I miss having that special someone 😔
No, he misses the old atmosphere of the game. I know this, because i started playing Minecraft in 2020, when i already missed my old childhood and the good old times(im still a child). But then this new caves and cliffs update came and i couldn’t enjoy the game anymore because of the new ore textures that changed the atmosphere of the game and the way I experienced Minecraft even though i was still excited for the game. I can also remember, that before the update came I already saw a video about the new ore textures and i was sad and annoyed and I hoped, that this video was just a prank but sadly this update was real and I couldn’t go back, because I played on bedrock. And the new Minecraft music just made it way worse. I just hope, that i get Java one day or that Mojang makes a launcher for pocket and bedrock edition and that i can enjoy Minecraft again:(
(Sry for my bad english, i come from Germany and i hope, that u can understand what i mean and what im saying.)
Sipover forgetting that builders want new blocks for oddly placed
Like vertical slabs
you couldn't imagine my excitement of the cherry wood being added
FR
Like Stairs being placed upside-down.
also not true, a lot of beta builders never switched because the new blocks are creative bloat. not defending sipover but good builders (i.e builders refuge) barely use the new blocks because they look ugly outside of shading.
"minecraft doesnt have freedom and is worse now because i choose to set the same goal of beating the ender dragon and get bored, so its obviously the game's fault"
-sipover 2024
A great philosophy for… idk… the downfall of a sandbox game?
@@UYTxIt truly is sipOVER
@@purpleplays69420i can assure you, most players havent even beat the ender dragon, hell ill say for myself farthest ive gone to is the nether and thats it, most time i spent is putting zombies and skeletons into an underground jail, if you cant find fun, its not the game's fault. that's your skill issue.
@@TheCapitalWanderer I was literally talking about how people can’t even enjoy the game like you said, chill. I was making a joke about the comment which I guess wasn’t obvious enough
You’re totally correct. You can play Minecraft the way you want to. For me thats the definition of a true sand box game
Yes. Like if you want to you can kinda still play Minecraft the same way you did 13 years ago. It’s still the simple sandbox it was. Just with new stuff so you don’t get bored as easily
If argue newer features force you to play a certain way
@@Hyperforg Not really, there's still plenty of ways to play the game
How did bro write this 9 days ago if this video is 2 days old?
@ThirdTwoLast you can pay money to become a member of someones channel to see videos before they are uploaded
a wise man once said, “you don’t miss old minecraft, you miss being happy”
💯💯💯
erm, actually, thats a knockoff of a quote made by roblox youtuber and player, flamingo. where he says the exact same thing except minecraft is replacedwith roblox 🤓☝
Wrong, I started playing in 2014 but can see how beta was better
i do not want the big salmon
i just want to be happy..
[ *C418 - Aria Math* now playing]
@@warbottle8 shut
sipover's voice straight up sounds like a parody of what the voiceovers on these videos usually sound like
Yeah
Because that’s literally the point. His video is a joke. And videos like this have that go through their head
@@redbool1115 ragebait is getting kind of hard to tell now
@@redbool1115 making bad takes and hiding behind the "it's a joke" excuse isn't a joke
@@redbool1115 he is fully serious, he said it in the comments of the video
Sipover complains about Minecraft not being a sandbox, but he then complains about the variety of blocks in the game, which makes Minecraft a better sandbox now than before when there were few blocks.
I understand the complaints that there are so many items/blocks/structures/mobs that it's hard to keep track of all of them, but Mojang has organized the creative menu into categories to make it feel less daunting.
Yeah sipover doesn’t really get it
There is definitely merit to the statement that limitation breed creativity and I personally prefer beta 1.7.3 but sipover is a trend chasing moron.
I honestly don't understand players who want Minecraft to still have just 1 type of stone and wood, anyone in their right mind knows that it is just logical a game about blocks and building with those blocks should add new ones over time
If mojang listened only to the community, trust me, the game would be 10x worse. I mean just look at videos like this or jetstarfish's exploration video
Straight up. I once saw a video of top mob mods that should be officially added to Minecraft and it literally contained Sirenhead (I might be misremembering but also Cartoon Cat included) - independent byproducts of Trevor Henderson's creations, along with other stuff that already have an existing huge source material as a character. That's not even Minecraft anymore and didn't share its charm of both old and new. Even if Minecraft is "not like it was before", the Warden genuinely did surprise me and I like its addition to Minecraft because.. it actually felt like it belonged to Minecraft and fit in. How? Because the creators actually developed both old and new mobs, not by people immersed in different fandom nostalgia completely unrelated to Minecraft. My only problem though, is old and new animations clash with each other and it'd be nice for something in-between for a small update.... but then again, that's another thing people might argue about.
@@Love_Dearly i saw a video saying "mods that should be in vanilla minecraft" and the 1st mod was a gun mod with fancy animations
@@atsizbalik if this was added this would be the one time where the "not Minecrafty" argument actually is valid
can you please state why?
@@ysmc2752 the communities advice is often terrible
6:05 it honestly feels like he doesn't even know what the word "Immersive" even means here. The reality is theres animals that exist IRL we have no purpose for, and there exists so many random environments we can experience. If anything it's the diversity of resources and things that exist without complex purpose in Minecraft that truly makes it immersive. If everything in the game existed purely to serve a purpose for the player, that would actually make in unimmersive
I have a counterpoint to one of your statements.
"There are animals IRL that serve no purpose" is a statement that is 99% incorrect, since even flies have some utility in nature. Every animal... well, almost every animal has a purpose on nature.
Basically: the guy isn't angry at useless mobs or features, he's angry bcs none of that helps to beat the ender dragon.
After all, *"this is all u can do in moder minecraft, right?"*
@@umrayquazashinyapareceu1672 I wasn't using the statement "useless" in reference to their purpose in the ecosystem, rather I was saying they're not exactly very good resources for humans to use in production
Except the goat. The goat not having any drops is a waste of processing power.
"If there were things to be immersed in the game wouldn't be immersive" clown
@@account2871 "if there's too much water there, then it becomes too dry"
I genuinely hate all of those nostalfans, because, even though nostalgia isn't bad in my opinion, it's unhealthy to stay in the idea that "old minecraft was better" and hate the new updates
Yeah
People don't like old Minecraft because they're nostalgic for it. Sipover was wrong about that. Dialko, a popular beta Minecraft player, made a very good video about this which explains it very well.
As a PVE enjoyer, any version before 1.9 sucks
@@Kiyosandwicheater have you ever played a version before 1.9 for longer than a few hours? Have you ever put time into a version like that? Modern combat is better for PvE. I'll give you that. But for PvP, older combat is generally funner and more playful. Also, Minecraft isn't a combat game, so it makes no sense to categorise a massive chunk of Minecraft's history as bad simply because you like modern combat.
@@Nuclear-OwlPeople who usually dislike the newer updates and praises old minecraft are most of the time nostalgic about it. There’s inherently nothing wrong to like the older version and playing in that if you prefer, but you also can’t let nostalgia blind you and say the newer updates ruins the game as some people say.
6:04 would like to add that the bee isn't useless, redstoners use honey, it's an essential block for alot of redstone contraptions
Yes bro
And also being able to wax copper is really useful for builders
He calls stuff useless because he doesn't do anything else other than beating the game. He's playing it like an MMO while others play it like an actual sandbox game.
@@Aprianex which is also unfortunate to some non-builders and non-redstoners
@@Aprianexnot everyobe that plays minecraft builds or uses redstone. Thats one big negative for minecraft as it fails to satisfy all player types. Plus it is a 'sandbox' game so he can play how he wants
it's funny how almost every point he brings up can be disputed with just "don't do that then"
Yeah sipover doesn’t rly understand what Minecraft is lol
yep.
"Just don't use a feature if you don't like it" is a weak argument. If you play multiplayer, that means you end up having a huge disadvantage often, and if you play singleplayer, you're always going to want to take advantage of overpowered features if they exist. Features like, say, honey and bees, are easy to avoid, but core game features like sprinting, enchanting, swimming, etc. are much harder to avoid. That's partly why people play older versions.
@@Nuclear-Owl ok and? again, nostalgia taking over your head. you literally have the choice to NOT do it but then proceed to whine about still doing it because "it gives you an advantage". just dont play mutiplayer on servers with new versions then??? if you hate change so much then go play old versions, no one's stopping you.
@@SmitePlayz_ theres a clear difference between nostalgia and overall simplicity, this video and gergs completely missed the fact that it was simplicity ,not nostalgia. and yes the comment above yours is correct, you cant dodge a whole part of the game (multiplayer) because it doesnt have what you like in it. the argument "just dont do that" doesnt help on an opinion piece(sips vid)
Not Sipover forgetting Notch decided to get the company off his hands after making an unpopular decision and not backing down from it or fixing the most problematic parts of it 💀
notch left the development team back in 2011
@atsizbalik but he pushed out an extremely restrictive EULA, killing monetization for all servers, and refused to change it to allow at least some forms of making money. The last EULA changes everyone was upset about? They have nothing on what he did. (Tbf they were mostly clarifications to the 2017 eula but most people ignore that)
@@leochangesnames I swear, these types of people who just spam “old Minecraft better, new Minecraft trash” really are blinded by nostalgia that they forgot they chased off their own idols and wonder why they won’t come back, along with ignoring any issues old Minecraft had.
@@dachemistofx1667 Isn't Notch also a lolcow in the same vein as J.K. Rowling now?
Okay, so personally I'd like to disagree with both sides. A lot of people argue whether old Minecraft was better than modern Minecraft, the truth is that it was just different. The amount of changes to the core gameplay that were applied over the years of updates makes it a bit like comparing apples and oranges.
I think such a comparison CAN be made within some healthy framework but it's just extremely difficult to do substantively as nostalgia heavily clouds the judgement and it's extremely difficult or impossible to distinguish whether you find a certain feature of the game better because of nostalgia, its actual quality, sheer preference or any combination of all of the above reasons.
I think that a certain generation of people is heavily biased by nostalgia due to how profound the experience of playing Minecraft for the first time was to them, including me. The sheer amount of videos such as "Sweden slowed to perfection", "Why Minecraft music is so good and C418 is a genius", "It's summer night 2011 and you're playing Minecraft" didn't appeared outta nowhere. I remember that playing Minecraft for the first time (I know it was version 1.1) when I was 13 or 14 was truly something magical and no other game has ever made me feel that way. The vibe, atmosphere of Minecraft was hard to explain. It was eerie, mysterious, lonely and yeah, the music by C418 truly is perfection and it amplified that mood so much. I think that JSchlatt or some other RUclipsr said that for them, the core of playing Minecraft is not knowing how to play Minecraft. I remember being so fascinated by every cave, happy to build a simple shoebox wooden house, being lost while exploring the world, O think that it was an experience possible due to not exactly knowing what lurks in the darkness. Over the following months, when I was playing the game, getting familiar with its features, mechanics, gameplay, inner workings, that magical feeling slowly faded away. And I am truly sad that I won't be ever able to experience that again. It's still hard to verbalise precisely what it was about that damn cube pixel game, but I think that a lot of people felt the same way and it's the reason why people are so teary and nostalgic about the early versions of the game, versions that were their own starting point.
And it's also important to pinpoint the influence of early Minecraft gameplays. Even tho I started in version 1.1, a lot of let's plays I watched as a kid were from beta or even alpha versions. That gave me some sort of second hand nostalgia for these earlier versions.
And it's not very hard to see why specifically the version beta 1.7.3 is the go-to nostalgic version of old-school Minecraft for a lot of folks. It was pivotal for the development of the game. In beta 1.8 there was a massive shift in how Mojang started to handle updates, before it the updates were much smaller and more incremental. If Notched felt like adding trapdoors to the game, well, he would just add trapdoors in the update. Since beta 1.8 Mojang took a more holistic approach to the updates, usually introducing some big change instead of just freely tinkering with the game. Beta 1.8 was also probably the first version that is often heavily criticised as a very bad step that changed the development of the game for worse. I agree with that honestly... The terrain generation in earlier versions used to be amazing, full of super cool mountains and hills. Beta 1.8 made the generation super-boring, flat and just bleaker in my opinion, and I don't think I feel that way due to nostalgia. I honestly believe that the terrain got much, much worse then. Also, they introduced the hunger, sprint mechanics, critical hits, changed the lighting system, biomes, added mineshafts, villages and so on. It's one of if not THE biggest change between 2 consecutive updates that the game has ever experienced. That's why people who dislike this change, and there's a lot of them, tend towards beta 1.7.3 as it was the most developed version that was... well, just not beta 1.8. Also, beta 1.6 didn't have pistons so yeah.
I am a person that is also heavily biased by nostalgia towards this old Minecraft, so it's very hard to analyse it objectively, if such a thing is even possible, but I do think there were characteristics of old Minecraft that were better at certain aspects. For example the look of old world generation was much cleaner. I feel like today's caves with 2722772 varieties of stone look very, very messy and just aesthetically displeasing, as if someone vomited onto the walls xD I heavily dislike that a lot of modern features appear as if they were taken from a bad 2012 mod. Like, the sniffer. What is that, it just looks like something outta RLCraft. I think that modern Minecraft over the years got a bit directionless, messy and chaotic in its additions.
Beta 1.7.3 despite being much, MUCH simpler was actually, in my opinion, a much more COMPLETE and well-rounded game. It was simple but didn't really have any features that were bad or disputed. It was really clean, honestly.
Also, it very well might be due to the nostalgia, but I feel like old Minecraft nailed that weird feeling and lonely, mysterious atmosphere much better. It truly felt lonely, empty, with not so many mobs, villages and pillagers. It was a game much more focused on that lonely experience, even of it wasn't fully intentional. Later updates either swayed away from that feeling or the players grew up, hard to say.
So yeah, old Minecraft was just different in its feeling and despite nostalgia blurring the judgement, it was actually better at certain goals/aspects.
I also disagree with you arguing like "you don't have to use/follow a certain mechanic". I don't think that's a completely valid argument on your side as it's not only important what the player chooses to do, but what the game designs him to do. Sure, you don't have to use certain features in any game, but it doesn't change these features being well or badly designed. It's not that simple. Let's say that you're playing a multiplayer game, such as TF2 or Overwatch and a certain class is extremely OP. Like, you could say "well, then just agree to not use it!" but it wouldn't be a valid argument to say that it doesn't affect the game, making it worse. It's hard to verbalise precisely what I mean but yeah. You don't have to use all the features of modern Minecraft but the game suggests you to use them, and that possibility alone can somewhat disrupt the idea of the gameplay. That was said a bit... poetically, sorry 🙏
Like, sure, you can play modern Minecraft in an old-school way, focusing on mining, crafting and building the world but it's just not the way the game itself encourages you to take. And that encouragement itself affects how you experience the game and how you decide to play it. I am not sure whether it's an accident that this specific nostalgia and missing that feeling of playing this eerie game for the first time, which I explained before, is usually focused on these older versions. You don't really hear about relatively younger people being that nostalgic about full release 1.8, or pre 1.14 or something... Which makes you wonder that maybe there was some substance to the claims that this old Minecraft was magical.
In my opinion it's actually a very complex topic, but I hope that I made some interesting points and substantive objections to your video! Thanks :D
The worst part is that beta is actually a really fun, unique experience, but he does such a bad job saying that, that it makes it seem objectively worse lol
yo thats crazy
Fr man
Honestly, we don’t miss the old Minecraft, we miss being young, our first times playing. Whether you started in 2013 or 2023, the belief is the same. Charm wears off if you’ve played a game for long enough. The one exception is Fortnite (or maybe RuneScape too), the charm kinda killed itself, but that’s not relevant here.
yeah i agree
In case of Fortnite, i think that the main reason that games charm has died - players. And even though, YES - EpicGames did implement some shitty updates, players still remained the main reason.
Whenever i hear someone complaining about Fortnite they usually say: "It was simpler, nobody was sweating this much. Now, you just make one shot and enemy builds a skyscraper."
People simply learned how to play the game. New strategies, metas, and simply the fact that kids spend much more time practicing in comptetetive games.
People BM now much more, and are in general toxic - which ruins your impression about the game and then turns YOU into a sweat.
Did i like how game was in first several seasons? Yeah. I loved it. I didn't have to sweat or worry that someone captures me in the box within 2 nanosexonds. But I also understand that it's not games fault.
I wish there was a thing called a 'launcher' that lets you play any version of Minecraft ever released That would be quite nice ngl
if only i could play literally any version of minecraft on a launcher like that, with mods as well...
And that definitely invalidates everything sipover said
People like Sipover are the reason there is a toxic minecraft community that ruins everything and complains about not getting the mob or update they wanted.
I just want an inventory update lol
True he just doesn't understand Minecraft
@@Mice-stroInventory update would be nice
What, what did he even do? sipover isn't the reason there is a toxic minecraft community that ruins everything and complains about not getting the mob or update they wanted, bro hasn't ever talked about the mob votes or updates in his videos, all this video is him thinking old minecraft was better because of nostalgia.
Like backpacks? I feel like with the current inventory you have to do more and I'm fine but we NEED an End Update@@melvinthendra2254
i got some young cousins who i showed mc to, somewhat recently.
the panic and joy of their first creeper kill brought a tear to my eye ngl.
to be back when a jungle temple was as scary as a woodland mansion in iron gear.
sweet sweet nostalgia.
also. mc is probably one of the most modded games out there. are you getting bored? download a modpack and your problems are fixed. or maybe. just maybe. let the game go if youve grown out of it. it happens, its part of life.
i now remember why i never finished sipos video lol
Tbh I prefer new minecraft over old minecraft as there’s more content to the game
Me too
Great minds think alike
Me too, my only issue is that it's overwhelming to me but that's a crybaby excuse
@@HotPocketsDryerLint truly
@@tarekcat1 if it was overwhelming,play the old one.if you like more new stuff,play new one
Some people want something simple
Some people want challenging stuff
That's my opinion
at 5:20, I think that Sipover meant that old minecraft's block choices were VERY limited compared to modern versions. And a lot of the time, people will stress with the thousands of blocks to choose from, however, with old minecraft's limited block choices, players would feel more free and not become stressed due to the simplicity of the older versions.
Was horribly communicated tho.
@@Lilleh__ true
There's 2 sides to that though. Having more stuff to work with in the modern versions can be overwhelming, but it can also make the player feel ever more free since they're not limited to certain blocks like in Beta.
It's all down to how the player feels. And every player is different. What's nice, though, is that Mojang still allows us to play the older versions if we'd like. Most games don't do that!
@@DiamondDepthYT yeah, i agree
It was very poorly worded and I feel like he got that from far better videos explaining why people enjoy old Minecraft because he obviously was just chasing a trend.
1:40 not to mention you could still walk away in old versions
yeah forgot
No, don't you understand? The technology for the technique of just running away didn't exist yet in 2009, it is a recent invention! No on ever ran away from things in the history of mankind before 1.16!
@@RangeCMYK i do understand, which is why i said they walked.
I of course know that the invention of running is a recent product of modernisation:)
Some Minecraft RUclipsrs:
Urgh i hate new minecraft, so boring, old one was way better and more explorative…
Also Some Minecraft RUclipsrs:
-Full Bright, Night Vision Textures
-Speedrun beating dragon and getting best loot
-Create mega farms to collect everything they need automatically
-build absolutely nothing of interest afterwards just for fun
-build mob-switch to prevent mobs spawning
-Create villager trading halls to get any of the best stuff in the game easily and within just a few mins
-Play lower difficulty structures(eg. Spawner, mansion, chambers, etc…) with end game loot from speed-running
-follow detailed tutorials without thinking of anything themselves
-learn every small detail of the games code so that they can predict exactly what’d happen
-etc…
EXACTLY!
I like how theres a greenscreen in the villager in a boat clip and since the villager's eyes are green, its eyes are just hollow 😂
@@niceicegd Glad I could make you laugh!
@@UYTx thanks, amazing video btw!
tysm bro!
I always see a running theme with these 'minecraft is boring' videos and its the fact that whenever they say "minecraft isn't the same" then they proceed to show cherry wood as if cherry wood ruined minecraft, ITS FUCKING CHERRYWOOD.
Wood retextures apparently ruined Minecraft
EXACTLY, PLUS, CHERRYWOOD IS ONE OF THE BEST.
@@UYTx "OH LORD PICK WOOD😱😱"
@@TheReal_CelestialWolfGacha fr it's so pretty
@@OWTShark I LOVEEE CHERRY WOOD I LOVE THE COLOR PINK
I am suprised that sipover of all people would say thats it not a sandbox anymore, looking at the crazy builds he has showcased on his channel
very true
also, THERE ARE STILL CREATORS THAT MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE A FRIEND, like the hermits
YEPPERS!
Mumbo and Grian
the idea that "i know everything and how to deal with it so it's not fun" is such a dumb point as it makes it seem like he's saying you couldn't do the same for old minecraft
Yeah that’s very true. If you played beta Minecraft for 15 years then you’d be bored by now!
Yeah and he doesn't want to admit it is maybe his problem he can't play the game differently therefore cherry wood bad because something something
You see a lot of that in the Pokemon fanbase too. "It'S tOo EaSy NoW!"
I mean, yes, the games HAVE gotten noticeably easier over the years, but the main issue is that _you're a grown-ass adult who's been playing the games for literal decades and know how the core mechanics work._
I always say this.
if you want a PROGRESSION and SURVIVAL game, but don't get that from Minecraft, play Terraria!
But even that game is a sandbox
Terraria is pretty mid ngl
@@Mike-di3mo WHAT, HOW
@@RightSlammed terraria is just 2d minecraft and minecraft doesn't work in 2d in my opinion but u like what u like
@@Mike-di3mo Terraria is its own game, don't disrespect Terraria like that
@@RightSlammed I just don't like it lol
I completely agree that Sipover's video just seems like pointless ragebait. And even if all of his points _were_ correct (which they're not), you can literally play almost any past version of Minecraft at any time!
Very, very true.
I've recently saw a bunch of videos shitting on these "old minecraft was better" and god i am so glad that people are starting to stop being blinded by nostalgia
Exactly! (except bedrock)
@@Ibrahim-bh6eu I hope they add the ability to play on older updates for bedrock in the future, may be very difficult but still doable
Wdym just play on past versions? The main point is having fun with a community but the community is always on the latest version so you can't just switch to an old version an expect to have fun.
These kinds of people like sipover are the reason why minecraft is getting harder for newbies and other people It's already hard enough and they keep complaining about it to mojang, mojang makes it harder for newbies or other people.
Exactly.
wdym minecraft is so easy
@@thelegocollider9136 you
aren't a newbie that's why
@@thelegocollider9136 Then you're an elite
Minecraft isn’t hard at all. Unless you play hardcore mode ofc. The only time I struggled was when I was still an IPad kid.
sipover also forgets that you can literally play the old versions. but yeah I think that maybe minecraft should've just kept the simplicity of 1.12 or 1.13. But besides that the only thing that I love of old minecraft, is the textures.
@@ChaseProductions18 I thought that people that have bedrock also have Java now
@@ChaseProductions18wdym not on bedrock you can on bedrock if you’re playing on windows 10 iOS or android
there are i game built texture packs to have the old textures for blocks and even stuff like hey bales even the old crying obsidian you can still play with old texture packs
Wdym the simplicity of old versions? Minecraft is still simple, you just gotta be simple with it
@@UYTx the new villages and structures are pog dont get me wrong. but the older ones just had more originality, anyhow if i were mojang id just make old structures funnier and harder to loot and visit, i would not add too many structures. people could say it would become boring, answer? make em rarer to find!
almost every nostalgic game franchise suffers from this like ask the person who is advocating for the older versions and tell them to give reasoning that doesn’t have anything to do with nostalgia and watch them immediately shut up sometimes they have reasoning, but nostalgia in my opinion should not be used as a valid way to rank media it’s legit bias as a kid
:(
@@UYTxgreat video tho
can confirm, NFS fans are drowning in nostalgia, mfs stuck in 2005.
@@TheCapitalWanderer I like the style of Unbound because it's something different.
A lot of people are just nostalgia biased
This community has always been allergic to change, people before thought infinite world generation was gonna ruin minecraft lol
my brother in christ, I HATE limited worlds and I was super happy when they added infinite worlds in P.E
@@n0m4r22 plenty of people disagreed tho
@@GearMaster-ku1xfI really do wonder the logic behind that. "Oh no, having more than six chunks to explore and build on is going to ruin this *sandbox* and *exploration* game!"
@@RangeCMYK It was over resources no longer being finite as you can just generate new chunks to find more and servers being harder to moderate
His whole video can be explained as "I want to forget my memories and start to play Minecraft for the first time"
-sipover 2024
Hey, I can help him with that! **Pulls out a giant mallet**
sipover is putting a bad name on the golden age community, call us weird for liking old minecraft (we are). but now sipover is making everyone think beta players are morons. please if you don't mind allow me to explain why people ACTUALLY like beta minecraft.
1. the graphics, a bit of a stupid take since shaders and texture packs exist but the graphics and textures have a really nice looking retro aesthetic to them.
2. the limited blocks, once again a dumb take but the limited 50 or so blocks really make you think hard about what to use, imo it makes builds a lot more rewarding when you only had 30 blocks to choose from. this still makes it a sandbox but def not a "true" sandbox like sipover claims
3. challenge, the game imo was pretty balanced back then, no shields, no totems, no villager trading, but the game wasn't so hard it was unplayable.
4. the terrain, the old terrain generation had a much more fairy tale feel to it, it really makes the world feel more alive in my personal experience at least.
most people probably won't agree with me, but one of the great things about modern minecraft is how much freedom we have, most games don't let you access beta and alpha version in the games official launcher. also don't get the idea that i hate modern minecraft, hell its probably better than beta. but its frustrating to see people saying beta is flat out terrible without at least giving it a fair chance.
I love golden age minecrafts aesthetics and looks but I'm just too used to modern Minecraft that I can't go back and play anything past 1.16 lol, both classic and modern are peak in their own ways, we don't need RUclipsrs nostalgia baiting when they can do the same stuff they want in the modern versions or simply just change their version (most of these complainers are java players too)
yea imo both old and new minecraft have their pros and cons, it's up to you what you wanna play especially since you can still play those old versions
True, the guy is just giving our community a bad look.
Honestly, i had a lot of good memories from 1.13-1.16 minecraft, truly a great era.
Beta graphics are ass
"mojang appeals more to the investors than the players" makes no sense
the community asked for a cave update, we got a cave update
the community complained about inventory space, we are getting bundles (maybe)
the community didnt like something so little as the eye placement on a mob, and they changed it
i could go on, mojang listens
mojang listens, yes!
3:22 i noticed the villager's eyes are showing the background because green screen look close
Mhm
"magic" villager eyes
another point:
IF YOU LIKE THE OLD VERSION JUST PLAY THE OLD VERSION ITS THERE IN THE LAUNCHER!!!
(rip to bedrock players though)
Yes bro! And he’s a Java player too, so this isn’t even a problem!
I’m still hopeful that they’ll eventually add the option to play older versions to bedrock
mfw adults are dumber than children
@@purpleplays69420 if you are on windows, im pretty sure there's a third party launcher for bedrock, but still rip to console players
It's not even RIP to a lot of Bedrock players. Android players and Chromebook players can download older APKs (like me), Windows users can install older versions, and honestly there's a chance you can do the same on Xboxs. Really it's just "rip to __ platform players though"
Honestly these guys would enjoy minecraft a lot more if they didn’t study every aspect of a new update months before it drops.
I know nearly nothing about the newest updates and starting a new survival world has been a blast figuring everything out
“Having lots of useless stuff breaks the immersion”
That makes it more immersive
Yes, how terraria is super fun because of all the stuff it has, Always discovering something new
7:32 yeah, i wouldn't listen to my community either if i saw them constantly make these nostalgia bait videos.
6:57 yes I do agree old Minecraft content was better by a good shot, at no point in YT history should you ever view your favorite channels as “your friends”
fr sipover is just being parasocial asf
What is he talking about with "Old youtubers felt like they were personally talking to you" what does this even have to do with old minecraft???
New youtubers still produce content of the same or even better quality, he's just too boring to let himself care. He even put rekrap1 in the video who is one of the best modern mc youtubers from what I remember, proving he didn't even watch any of his videos and instead of just searched minecraft youtubers and put some random guy on there.
I like how you debunked it point by point respectfully instead of just flaming him like gerg
Lol
That's how Gerg operates.
@@thegamerforge3544 yeah, im not saying it s bad thing haha
Look, the flaming was kinda justified
@@ExStrayz I know
Minecraft youtubers when they realise that not everyone does speedruns or are tryhards:
just wanting to point out that "old minecraft" is constantly available to anyone through the launcher. just play an older version and done.
true for java edition
the crazy thing is you dont even have to build! you can just find a hole in the side of a mountain and make it a bigger hole, and boom, new base. modern minecraft is peak minecraft
so true💯
"You were forced to do X, thus it's a true sandbox" is such a contradictory statement. Bro wrote that, read it, recorded it, and uploaded it. Wow.
6:16 THAT MUSIC AHHHH
lol
MCSM
Minecraft story mode
I've played Minecraft for over a decade, the best part playing this game was seeing all the cool features getting implemented into the game over time.
Also, the creative menu with the single page was awful and sucked ass.
Lmao multiple content creators gathering to roasting this guy for just rambling bs is amazing
I hate how his yapping has more chance to be seen by a Mojang employee than actually researched videos of people that know what they're talking about
Somebodycreate a Minecraft world on the latest release but without the changes he complained about and lets see how much he likes it
"I have made a mod pack that costs 200€ per hour where you unlock things like: Building, redstone, exploration, hardcore, multiplayer and biggest of all... Terraria. I know it may sound weird to add Terraria but dont all of you just love linear progression because last I checked all of you only cared about was speedrunning and limiting your progression to a linear path" -PetCarwish
Bro, if we went back to old minecraft
At first, it may be nostalgic but people will be bored while playing the older updates, not to mention somehwere in 2015-2016 that was first time Minecraft was going on a downfall
Yeah that’s true
Have you ever played, say, beta 1.7.3? People don't actually play it for nostalgia. They play it because it's simple and everything feels unified and has a purpose, along with many other reasons I could list. It's not a matter of nostalgia or features. It's a matter of quality vs quantity of game mechanics. Too little vs too many features. That's why b1.7.3 is so popular: it has a good balance of features. It has biomes and variation, unlike alpha versions, but it doesn't have billions of unnecessary features like unnecessary stone types, too many structures and mobs, etc. I am someone who has played both modern Minecraft and Beta Minecraft for quite some time now, and I can't play modern for more than a few days in a row before getting bored (often less), while I can play beta for much longer. And the same goes for nearly everyone I know who has also tried both versions.
Some kids who never played older versions of minecraft back in Golden age can still play it tho on school computers or other
To add to this, any “problems” that can’t be avoided (as few as that may be) you can just mod it out FOR FREE if you don’t like it that much. Sadly that doesn’t apply to bedrock players
Dude put that Minecraft Story Mode music in at the 6 min mark. I got hit with a wave of nostalgia
:)
I had a friend who recently got his hands to minecraft. Of course as an old player, I offered him to play the older version. He said it was fine and simple but the newer minecraft world felt so much more wide and mysterious. I can't blame him, imagine playing minecraft for the first time nowadays. The sheer amount of biomes and features would pretty much overwhelm you (in a good way).
I have been playing Minecraft since 2011 and have not ONCE beaten the EnderDragon in survival and I’m still having the time of my life over a decade later
@@AfterArtist same with me!
@@UYTxI've played minecraft since 2014 when I was 3 but I didn't know how to cook stuff in a furnace until last year lol
The only point he could’ve made that would’ve made sense is that old Minecraft was more simplistic and sometimes less is more.
6:02 man those clips just make the new game look like those nostalgic clips of people playing old things
8:19 you know it’s Sipover when he adds weird, unnecessary sound effects. God I hate that.
are they really unnecessarry if they keep the viewer watching?
@@UYTx you got a point there
I didn’t know you could give a flower to a bee
That's how you breed them!
there's a mod that has the old generation for worlds, blocks, items, etc. sipover could play with that mod and the programmer art texture pack for an updated version of the same experience he used to get for the sake of nostalgia
4:49 So you're telling me you know exactly what you will do in what you guys like to call this "overbloated and complicated" version, but you don't know what will happen in an unfinished, barebones as hell version with 1 structure and 4 biomes, you call that an adventure?
Edit: He also completely neglects the fact that you can outrun zombies and copy other people's builds in beta too and the fact that advancements were added as achievments in beta to fit his bs argument
A few weeks ago i made a world on 1.7 and i played for a few days until i got bored and realised how much more there is in modern minecraft compared to before
Yes bro sipover doesn’t realize that
I have been playing since around 1.11 - 1.13 and I still haven’t beat the endear dragon, still have fun exploring, have no clue about what some mobs even do (or even know that they existed) and I still be creative with making my house. Minecraft has been getting funnier and funnier every single update and if you already know what your gonna do for the next *3 years* in minecraft, invite some friends! Friends can literally change everything, like starting Wars and other stuff!
I completely agree
I’m an old Minecraft fan and Sipover kinda just sounds mad for the sake of being mad. A big reason I like going back is because I get overwhelmed by how much stuff is there. It just feels like there’s so much to do and I have no idea where to even start. So instead of making a video and getting overly upset about the direction current Minecraft is going, I just boot up a Beta 1.7.3 world or something a little later and have fun. Old Minecraft kinda just has a simplistic charm to it. If I want to change up my experience in old Minecraft, mods have me covered. But if I’m ever feeling up for playing some of the modern stuff in Minecraft, I just boot up a world and have fun. Yes, I can have fun on BOTH because Minecraft is just a fun game in general to me. It just boils down to whether I feel like wanting simplicity or complexity. Both of which are fun in millions of their own ways.
I think old Minecraft versions can be fun but the mouse sensitivity acts kinda weird and some controls just don't exist.
If modern Minecraft doesn't have a sense of adventure, please tell me how Mojang is supposed to fix that, they can't because the sense of adventure isn't tied to the newer versions, it's tied to the fact that you were playing it for the first time when you played old Minecraft.
that is so true
minecraft, less of a sandbox? with how they're adding so many cool things to commands, as mods get cooler, and as more blocks are added to build with, i dont see what about it makes it inhibit your creativity.
It's sad because Sipover usually makes pretty cool stuff
yeah i used to enjoy his contnet
Sipover? More like SLIPOVER!
If you miss old Minecraft just switch to the old versions thru the launcher instead of whining about it on youtube
SlipOver More Like Bend Over😏
@@PixelGiant777 "new minecraft bad because i know everything, old minecraft better because i didnt know anything when i played it 😢"
"you don't miss old roblox you miss being young"
-albert flamingo
(ik it says roblox but it still applies)
Yes. That is true
5:34 he is just salty about not being able to build
Yeah fr
Sipovers entire video is literally just: “I know everything about minecraft already and I don’t like it”
“And it’s the games fault, not mine”
@@UYTx fr 😭
Minecraft is a canvas, and you're the artist. You can do whatever you want
that's so true
The “If you don’t like it, then don’t use it” argument is the same level of stupid as “could you make Minecraft?”
sure you dont make minecraft, but you *do* make your own minecraft *adventures*
@@UYTx lol poor ms paint commentary youtuber is getting so defensive just admit you're a microsoft fanboy and delete this stupid video already new minecraft sucks and all your points are just silly
I hate these type of ppl like bro you just miss being young playing its literally nostalgia
dont hate the person, hate the video instead
He could’ve just said
PvP was better and many people will agree with him
Many people would, many people wouldn’t
I love Sipover’s video, but not the newest one, it’s wrong. Your opinion and Gerg’s are totally correct. Great vid!❤
Ty bro! Me and Gerg are chillin with the same idea 😎
I do personally believe that the feeling and emotion Minecraft has changed over the years, but the reason for that is that the game simply got more advanced and bigger. It isn’t that Minecraft changed necessarily, and more like the game added more things to do. The old days of survival where like this- you would chill out in a shack, hiding from monsters, feeding your Minecraft dog, making a tiny farm, fishing, mining, and just beating the game entirely, and just live your life in a survival landscape, download some texture packs or shaders, and build stuff. It was simple, and new Minecraft doesn’t change any of that. You can still play the game exactly like that. The only difference is that there is more now. You can mine in a cave, and along the way encounter the deep dark. You can go to the nether and along the way, find a bastion, you can go fishing and along the way, find sunken ships that can lead you to treasure, you can make a farm WITH the added benefits of modern building and farming techniques for efficiency, and finally- you can still chill out in your shack and nothing will have changed, maybe besides how you build it. Minecraft is still the simple game from before, just updated and had new stuff added- which is the point of updates.
I wish Sipover was going over the more objective stuff like:
The increased abundance of Diamonds devaluing their initial splendor and joy of finding them.
Most mobs not having methods to deal with running players. Not asking that mobs sprint but, running has been absurdly the best meta and can devalue a good base if all you gotta do is stuff your face and run to live.
And arguably the weird shift in the games design that might just be me, going from a game that felt more like about conquering nature, to a game about existing in it. Its hard to explain and hence why i think it may be subjective.
0:39 ITS THAT TOO!
def. nostalgia taking over sipover. i can agree with old vs new mc youtube tho, newer mcyt is something else :yikes:
@@qalexandria so is regular yt
This applies to all of RUclips thanks to MrBeast and RUclips Kids.
I went into this video without seeing Sipover’s video, but I now hope his video was a joke, you can still do anything you could do in old Minecraft in new Minecraft, plus you can always use a Texture Pack if you don’t like the new textures. I totally agree with you, dude.
Yes bro
3:52 those people must be living under a rock or haven't yet existed
i think sipover needs to realise that none of his points are to do with modern minecraft itself - it's to do with him, and how some of the community treats the game. THATS IT BRo. THATS IT
There used to be a lot of "Minecraft is Boring" videos cuz it was the trend, now everyone is making videos arguing with "Minecraft is Boring" videos cuz now it's the trend
i simply did it cuz sipover's video is bad
I kinda agree with sipovers villager point, like getting diamond armour for sticks is a little ridiculous
But then again, you dont have to use them if you dont want to. I only use villages for enchantments, because i find mining fun, but not enchanting
Exactly bro
Plus, you have to remember that a player without extensive knowledge of the game won't know how to use villagers like that.
never interacted with villagers ever lol, and yeah, i played since beta.
Two content creators has jumped sipover for his awful video and quite frankly. That's not enough we need more people doing that
I agree
3 now (a dude called "sneakycacti")
This video is much better than Gerg's. He comes off as if Sipover, and the entire golden age community, offended him personally for daring to suggest that they prefer older Minecraft. It's really pathetic how much of just a blind Minecraft fanboy he comes off as by just constantly spitting venom. Not to mention that he's blatantly hypocritical throughout it. He holds building to the highest standard, and argues that SIpover is wrong BECAUSE he can't "build good", while earlier he complains that people see defeating the Ender Dragon as the goal of Minecraft, and how that's such a narrow view. He's blind to the fact that he uses Building in the exact same way he complains that people use the Ender Dragon.
You do a much better job of confronting his points without slipping into ad hominem attacks, and showing why he's wrong. You should be incredibly proud of this video. It proves that just because someone has more subscribers, doesn't mean they're better.
Fact: minecraft doesnt force you to play newer versions, you can still play the old versions
2:02 it's convenient to trade with villagers
the way i see it is he is talking about his problems with the game while your point is all of his points do not apply for new players, only old ones (players you dont watch youtube guides and play the game without being told features in the game count as new players in my opinion). But what i will say is how sipover feels is how i feel about my favorite game breath of the wild, i wish i could expierence it for the first time again but now i just cant play the game without grabbing the best weapons and using glitches (if you are confused by the yap i just typed out kinda same just ignore the first part and focas on the second sentence.)
he had a sense of adventure in old mc because he didnt know it all same goes for new players now.
I completely agree with UYT. When I first started Minecraft on the PS3 I didn't know what a skeleton was and it took me ages to work out not only how to get to the end but also to fly with an elytra
Wait wait wait, is his first argument really "we aren't forced to play the game certain ways and can do other things, therefore we have no freedom"? But thats... What freedom means...
in my opinion, both versions are equal.
There are lots of versions of Minecraft