What is now working on this beta update(given an updated file): 7800 Alpha Race Armor Attack II Asteroids Deluxe Astro Blaster Astro Fighter Baby Pac Man Beef Drop Blockem Sockem(Using DragonFly Cart) B*nk Combat 1990 Crazy Brix(only working with joystick control) Crazy Otto Crystal Quest Donkey Kong PX Donkey Kong XM Dungeon Stalker Fail Safe Fat Axl Frenzy Froggie K.C. Munchkin Kessel Attack Klax Knight Guy in Low Res World Castle Days Lava Lamps and 8 Track Theatre Meteor Shower Missing in Action(Prototype) Moon Cresta Pac Man Collection Pac Man 40th Anniversary with XM Sound! Pac Man Jr. Pineapple Pit Fighter(Prototype) Plutos Popeye Rip Off Santa Simon Scramble Sentinel Serpentine Sirius Space Duel Space Invaders Collection Star Wars(Xevious Hack) Super Circus Atariage Super Cobra Super Pac Man T:me Salvo Tubes Venture Wasp Wizards Dungeon Worm 2600 Working Circus Convoy Tunnel Runner 7800 still not working 8 in 1 Multicarts Attack of the Petscii Robots Rikki and Vikki 2600 Not Working Omega Race(controller) Mountain King
Hi John thanks so much for this. I have the + and the GSP so the videos you’ve been doing have been really interesting. Thank you for your enthusiasm for the hobby. I’m a huge fan of Atari 2600 and 7800 so enjoy the work that you do. Also on a sidenote. I was really touched by the video that you and your wife did and wish you both well and great health for The New Year.
This is great news that many of the Atari 7800 homebrew games are now working! And great to see this happening so quickly after the release of the 2600+
Thank you so much for sharing. So happy to see they are putting real effort into the system. Hopefully they get even more home brews working. It would be great if Popeye works.
Excellent news John, the 7800 was such an underrated console with some excellent games and now some excellent modern homebrew! Great job testing everything out and I'm very much looking forward to checking out the new firmware myself just as soon as I get 5 minutes. 😁
Greetings! about robotank, unfortunately it will need a very creative change to work on the Atari 2600+ the problem is not about software but about the construction of the cartridge slot, due to operating the 7800 and 2600 the reader cancels the reading of an original cartridge robotank, however I have a cartridge with 04 games, one of them robotank, it worked normally.
Oh my that 7800 game pad controller is awesome. I have a pair of them with the little thumb stick that screws into the “D pad” make any 2600/7800 game way more playable. Too bad we didn’t get those in the US
AWESOME NEWS!! I just got my Atari 2600 + today and finding out most of my homebrew collection will work on it now is the best!! Looks like I bought my Atari at just the right time!
Glad to see Super Circus and Frenzy are working, according to your notes. Looking to buy on Atari Age for 2600+. Really hope crazy brix gets paddle support. Thanks for the info!
Cheers John - Luv the videos. I recently purchased the 2600+ and find it superb. Some of the carts needed a good isopropyl clean before they would load. I was worried when one of my favorite games (Tutankhamun) wouldn’t load, but it did eventually after a good clean - phew. Looking forward to the firmware update to rectify some of the colour issues etc 😀
John, thank you for sharing your results of your beta testing. You’re right I think we’re all rooting for the 2600+ to be a big success for Atari. Did you get a chance to check Pitfall II? That’s one of the games I’m looking forward to them getting figured out.
Pitfall 2 is complex due to having additional hardware in the actual game to make it run on standard hardware. It is still not working with this update.
@@johnhancockretro It's not complicated and has nothing to do with the DPC chip. The 2600+ just dumps the ROM and the game runs on an ARM-9 port of the Stella emulator. Stella runs everything just by loading the ROM. Other versions of Stella (PC etc) run Pitfall II just fine simply by loading in the ROM that's available. Stella emulates the DPC chip internally so it doesn't physically need to use the real DPC chip and never will since the 2600+ is just a ROM dumper which runs ROMs from internal RAM on the ARM-9 SOC board inside the 2600+. It even works fine on the Wii 2600 emulator which is also just a port of Stella for the Wii. It looks like they are using a very old version of Stella or they have disabled some Stella features. Or more likely the Pitfall II cart doesn't get 'dumped' properly because the DPC chip sits between the ROM and the edge connector. If the latter is the case and they can't figure out how to dump it properly then Pitfall II will never run on the 2600+ and the 2600+ will be a commercial flop. They just need to bankswitch it with software without actually running the game when the cart is inserted and read/write the required memory areas to force it to bankswitch and cycle through all the 4kB chunks, dump each one out to memory and then re-assemble the full 32kB ROM in memory then it will have access to the full 32kB ROM. Then Stella will run it no problems since it already emulates the DPC internally. But oh what a screw-up... best game on the system doesn't work LOL! Hopefully the next one they make will be what people actually wanted... a proper FPGA-based 2600 with 100% hardware and software compatibility.
Wow that is some awesome news! There are some 7800 homebrews I want to order from AtariAge but I am holding off until my Plus is updated and these games are known to be working....
Every time you said "obscure arcade release", this old retro heart who remembers all of those games died a little more... ;-) Great to see the Pacmanplus games working so well!!! Love his work!
See this is why I’m waiting to December 2024 to buy the 2600+. To let the system mature and get all the firmware updates, and of course, get my hands on some games for the console outside of the current Atari carts.
All the non-working games should run if the people holding the Atari name allow access to the internal menus within the Stella emulator. Then users can go in and select the correct game-specific settings. They need to allow enabling a developer mode or something. We had the same issue with the Amiga (A500) mini and they eventually added the dev mode enable so settings could be tweaked for specific games. Same things needs to be done with the 2600+.
I got a Atari plus at Christmas. I was surprised at how much of a pain it was to get games to load. It hated the Activision games I tried on it. Tried Megamania, River Raid, Spider Fighter and Chopper Command. All of them took several tries.
@johnhancockretro , gave them a cleaning but not much of anything came off. Never had cleaned them before so was expecting them to be way dirtier. Maybe I need a one up card pr something over a qtip
Activision carts are notorious for building up oxide and corrosion on the contacts. Usually takes me 2-3 cleanings on some really bad carts. I recommend deoxit and the at least 90% isopropyl alcohol. Thanks for picking up Rabbit Transit for me a few years ago. I think it was you.
I hope they make an update for the stability of the paddle controllers. They emulate a bit jittery on the 2600+ but play perfectly on the original console.
Hello John, this is mostly my ignorance and i know a lot of stuff was removed from the Atari Age shop but is it possible to sample or even play the full version of Bob DeCrescenzos work still? I'm sure carts must go for silly prices now in the wild. I'm just looking to experience the love that Bob and other very hard working enthusiast have done. In short I had no idea and really missed on this great experience.
RipOff and Space Duel were some of my fave arcade games.i didnt see them very often around though. Star Castle was another one of my faves and i think i tried an emulated version for PC, but It couldn't emulate the freefloating non -gravity feeling though like the original. Just didnt have same movement so it loses something. Failsafe looks actually pretty cool,id never seen it before. I have a really amazing Omega Race version for my old atari system, i cant remember offhand who made it, (they made the Mountain King game also that i have) but this version is like almost dead on exact to the original arcade version, its got that floaty, low gravity feeling and action of the ship done super well, and the game came with a gimmicky joystick add-on that went on over the regular joystick and made it into a thicker,taller aircraft type joystick with a firing button on top of the joystick, because the game changed the lower button into thrust control and then weapon fire was on the trigger on joystick. made it highly similar feel as the original cabinet game.
Great beta update review, John! So glad to see so many homebrew games working on the Atari 2600+ now! However, what's up with Video 61 Sales? Did they go out of business? Their website doesn't continue past the title page! 😊👍👍✨️
They should release full-colour boxes and manuals with their games to match the quality of the software they make. The 2600+ is creating lots of new consumers, so the demand will be there.
All these "are in the Atari Age store now" implies so many (most?) are not... Ohhh I want to buy so many of these now that I have a 2600+ with HDMI to play on a modern TV. Will they print new batches of these older carts? There were a couple programmers mentioned a number of times who had consistently great games... Man I want them!
@@MrPoestyle That makes sense. hopefully we can get an SD slotted cart to put those ROMs in, even if it requires dip switches. Years back I started a list of AA games to buy. I still have my list and was raising the priority which is why I watched this video. At the time I fell on hard times and was forced to change career skills/path and had to be more responsible to avoid debt on making the situation worse. Oh well; life is good and there's reasons for everything-- keeping positive.
Very interesting. So your future home brews will they be a physical cartridge or download? Thinking of stepping back into Atari console and looking at the 2600+ as well as VCS while it is still on sale for holidays 2023.
Some great home brew show cased. Aside from some Activision titles I’ve generally had a good experience. Apart from Grand Prix won’t work with my original paddles but super breakout does?
There are two different paddles for the 2600. One has a driving logo on it and the other has a tennis logo on it. The mechanism inside used for the rotation is different. The paddle version uses a 1M-ohm pot that can rotate plus and minus about 165 degrees and measures the actual absolute position of the pot. The driving controller uses a rotary encoder that can rotation 360 degrees continually and measures the relative position as the change in movement from the current position. They are two totally different technologies.
@johnhancockretro got it! I just emailed them thank you! I have Venture and Enduro and they don't seem to play on Version 1.0, so hopefully 1.1 Beta will do the trick!
Disappointed super circus atariage isn't working. Oh well. If you get a chance john, can you do some game play on standard 7800 asteroids with a 2 button controller to see if that phantom warp with no button press is still an issue
@johnhancockretro ok if you get a chance play it for 10 or 15 minutes. Move around a lot. I've heard from 3 or 4 other people who've noticed it. Love your videos. Thanks John 😊
I doubt it will ever be working. It's not in the best interests of Atari to allow them (essentially pirated games) to run. They want to sell re-released carts. If you want to use a multicart just buy a real 2600 and mod it to output composite. Most (good) TVs have component video outputs (red/blue/green) and the green Y output is also used for composite output. Use a composite cable, plug the yellow RCA plug into the green Y jack and use one of the red/white RCA audio jacks for audio. works great on my LG 55" 4K TV. If your TV doesn't have component buy one that does and be sure to look at the specs of the TV you are going to buy and don't buy it if it doesn't support component/composite.
You can also RGB mod your 2600, or better yet - just get a 7800 and 7800GD, use the RGB out and upscale into HDMI. Then you can play literally _everything!_ No emulation BS to deal with. 👍
@@R3TR0R4V3rgb is useless to the average person. Sure, someone with a PVM or 80's computer monitor like a Commodore 1084 can use rgb but otherwise there are very few display devices that can accept a rgb video input. People want to use it on a standard TV. What kind of rgb display device do you think most people have?
@@johnhancockretroThanks again John! My Atari 2600+ is up and running playing Circus Convoy and Tunnel Runner now! Sadly Aardvark loads but won’t play.
It looks like Pitfall II will never be playable because the DPC chip sits between the cart edge connector and the ROM so dumping it completely from the edge is impossible. That means the best game on the 2600 will never work and that means the end of the 2600+ project LOL! If they can figure out a way to dump the ROM from the connector then it should run because 2600+ is just running a port of the well-tested Stella emulator which runs Pitfall2 just fine (on the PC version) as-is by just loading the 32kB rom.... Stella emulates the DPC chip internally so it appears whoever ported it to the generic ARM9-based SOC inside the 2600+ has disabled a bunch of additional Stella emulation features or is using an old version that didn't support extra chips inside carts or they can't figure out how to dump it from the edge. If that never happens the 2600+ is just an embarrassment and they should re-design a proper 2600 that works like the original does using an FPGA.
It can be done, and Plaion is working towards that. The emulator just needs to be expanded to do so. BigPEmu for example, is an HD remaster Jaguar game (see Chequered Flag) to modern standards, adding features not present in the original games such as modern V.R. support, online gaming for all multiplayer games, analogue controller support, and much more besides. A.V.P now has a 32-player online deathmatch mode for example.
2600+ is a waste of $. There's a better option to buy, Atari Flashback 12 Gold. If you wanna play cartridges play on a real Atari. 2600+ is just a old emulator they took and put it in a Atari shell. Atari is bull sh*tting
Well it's useful if someone has a large collection of real carts and needs HDMI output. But yeah I agree the 2600+ isn't that impressive. The lack of Pitfall II and multicart support really lets it down and that will be the final nail in the coffin that seals its fate. I only bought one so I can update it with hacked firmware when it is eventually cracked then load on other emulators hehe!
umm. lol. you don't get it. yes, we can all play stuff on emulators on handhelds from china. we know. we have those. This is for people that want an atari cart experience at their home and have a job, lol You can be literally done selecting 40 or so carts for it in 2 months.
@@provisionalhypothesis A job? That's not a prerequisite. I'm retired with 7-figures in the bank and I haven't worked since 2015 LOL! The 2600+ is a waste of money *IF* the person does not have a large collection of real carts. Otherwise there's no reason to buy a 2600+ because it doesn't support the best game on the system (Pitfall II) and doesn't support multicarts. One of those Kinhank Super Console X3 boxes (with 60000 games included ) is a better buy for a random person who just wants to play a few old games and has minimum space available and/or a wife who doesn't want a cluttered mess of old junk lying around. The Super Console X3 is very wife-friendly ;-)
@@provisionalhypothesis but you are not actually playing the cartridge on a 2600+. its the same old emulator thats been out for years and is on a bunch of other Atari stuff. 2600+ is only made to look and feel like you're playing the cartridge but you are actually not.
What is now working on this beta update(given an updated file):
7800 Alpha Race
Armor Attack II
Asteroids Deluxe
Astro Blaster
Astro Fighter
Baby Pac Man
Beef Drop
Blockem Sockem(Using DragonFly Cart)
B*nk
Combat 1990
Crazy Brix(only working with joystick control)
Crazy Otto
Crystal Quest
Donkey Kong PX
Donkey Kong XM
Dungeon Stalker
Fail Safe
Fat Axl
Frenzy
Froggie
K.C. Munchkin
Kessel Attack
Klax
Knight Guy in Low Res World Castle Days
Lava Lamps and 8 Track Theatre
Meteor Shower
Missing in Action(Prototype)
Moon Cresta
Pac Man Collection
Pac Man 40th Anniversary with XM Sound!
Pac Man Jr.
Pineapple
Pit Fighter(Prototype)
Plutos
Popeye
Rip Off
Santa Simon
Scramble
Sentinel
Serpentine
Sirius
Space Duel
Space Invaders Collection
Star Wars(Xevious Hack)
Super Circus Atariage
Super Cobra
Super Pac Man
T:me Salvo
Tubes
Venture
Wasp
Wizards Dungeon
Worm
2600 Working
Circus Convoy
Tunnel Runner
7800 still not working
8 in 1 Multicarts
Attack of the Petscii Robots
Rikki and Vikki
2600 Not Working
Omega Race(controller)
Mountain King
Whoo, Klax, would love to see a video of it.
This will make a great addition to the museum!
How about the sonic game for the 2600
Vital information, John! Thanks! 😊👍👍✨️
Hi John, do you have Robot Tank (NTSC Activision 2600)? Hoping the update will fix the rolling screen due to an emulation setting.
Thank you John! So many of us are rooting for the success of the Atari 2600+.
You bet!
This is what the new vcs should have had build in, glad to see it released as a separate console...
I got one for my dad, he loves it, hope they fix pitfall 2
@johnhancockretro Hey john , do you know where KC munchkin is available, its not on atariage store?
Thanks for the update! Hopefully, the Champ Games stuff will eventually work on the 2600 +
I had the 2600+ set for the kids to play when they came over and their mother had to peel them away to go home. It was so much fun!
Hi John thanks so much for this. I have the + and the GSP so the videos you’ve been doing have been really interesting. Thank you for your enthusiasm for the hobby. I’m a huge fan of Atari 2600 and 7800 so enjoy the work that you do. Also on a sidenote. I was really touched by the video that you and your wife did and wish you both well and great health for The New Year.
Man this just gets better and better. Looking to forward to the future of the 26+!
Looking forward to the future videos about the other titles you tested.
This is great news that many of the Atari 7800 homebrew games are now working! And great to see this happening so quickly after the release of the 2600+
Update: T:me Salvo does indeed work.
Whoa! Some cool looking games on here! Great vid sir, I’m still considering getting this Atari 2600+
Go for it!
@@johnhancockretro❤️🎮
Thank you so much for sharing. So happy to see they are putting real effort into the system. Hopefully they get even more home brews working. It would be great if Popeye works.
Great stuff, John. Thanks for sharing. I love these home brews.
My pleasure!
This is a great step in the right direction and shows the potential of the 2600+.
Excellent news John, the 7800 was such an underrated console with some excellent games and now some excellent modern homebrew! Great job testing everything out and I'm very much looking forward to checking out the new firmware myself just as soon as I get 5 minutes. 😁
Couldn't agree more
Greetings! about robotank, unfortunately it will need a very creative change to work on the Atari 2600+ the problem is not about software but about the construction of the cartridge slot, due to operating the 7800 and 2600 the reader cancels the reading of an original cartridge robotank, however I have a cartridge with 04 games, one of them robotank, it worked normally.
Oh my that 7800 game pad controller is awesome. I have a pair of them with the little thumb stick that screws into the “D pad” make any 2600/7800 game way more playable. Too bad we didn’t get those in the US
Yes that's the CX-78 gamepad that was only released outside the USA. While not perfect, it is better than the pain line joystick.
I was able to play All of my official Atari 2600 and 7800 games, but I was able to play only about half of my Atari 2600 Homebrews.
They are working hard with making that better. This is just the start of many updates.
Champ Games homebrews won't work. Only like 2. It's the 32k size with the later ones. I have a lot of Champ Game homebrews so waiting
AWESOME NEWS!! I just got my Atari 2600 + today and finding out most of my homebrew collection will work on it now is the best!! Looks like I bought my Atari at just the right time!
Good video! Thanks! for posting these 7800 homebrews! Haven't seen some of these games before! Nice!
Glad to see Super Circus and Frenzy are working, according to your notes. Looking to buy on Atari Age for 2600+. Really hope crazy brix gets paddle support. Thanks for the info!
Thank you so much I am so glad I am subbed to you for all things 2600+
You are so welcome
Cheers John - Luv the videos. I recently purchased the 2600+ and find it superb. Some of the carts needed a good isopropyl clean before they would load. I was worried when one of my favorite games (Tutankhamun) wouldn’t load, but it did eventually after a good clean - phew. Looking forward to the firmware update to rectify some of the colour issues etc 😀
You rock for testing all these homebrews!!
John, thank you for sharing your results of your beta testing. You’re right I think we’re all rooting for the 2600+ to be a big success for Atari. Did you get a chance to check Pitfall II? That’s one of the games I’m looking forward to them getting figured out.
Pitfall 2 is complex due to having additional hardware in the actual game to make it run on standard hardware. It is still not working with this update.
That's a shame, hope they fix it in the future...
@@johnhancockretro It's not complicated and has nothing to do with the DPC chip. The 2600+ just dumps the ROM and the game runs on an ARM-9 port of the Stella emulator. Stella runs everything just by loading the ROM. Other versions of Stella (PC etc) run Pitfall II just fine simply by loading in the ROM that's available. Stella emulates the DPC chip internally so it doesn't physically need to use the real DPC chip and never will since the 2600+ is just a ROM dumper which runs ROMs from internal RAM on the ARM-9 SOC board inside the 2600+. It even works fine on the Wii 2600 emulator which is also just a port of Stella for the Wii. It looks like they are using a very old version of Stella or they have disabled some Stella features. Or more likely the Pitfall II cart doesn't get 'dumped' properly because the DPC chip sits between the ROM and the edge connector. If the latter is the case and they can't figure out how to dump it properly then Pitfall II will never run on the 2600+ and the 2600+ will be a commercial flop. They just need to bankswitch it with software without actually running the game when the cart is inserted and read/write the required memory areas to force it to bankswitch and cycle through all the 4kB chunks, dump each one out to memory and then re-assemble the full 32kB ROM in memory then it will have access to the full 32kB ROM. Then Stella will run it no problems since it already emulates the DPC internally. But oh what a screw-up... best game on the system doesn't work LOL! Hopefully the next one they make will be what people actually wanted... a proper FPGA-based 2600 with 100% hardware and software compatibility.
@@ronlokhorst4789 it'll never happen lol
Wow that is some awesome news! There are some 7800 homebrews I want to order from AtariAge but I am holding off until my Plus is updated and these games are known to be working....
Every time you said "obscure arcade release", this old retro heart who remembers all of those games died a little more...
;-)
Great to see the Pacmanplus games working so well!!! Love his work!
See this is why I’m waiting to December 2024 to buy the 2600+. To let the system mature and get all the firmware updates, and of course, get my hands on some games for the console outside of the current Atari carts.
This will make a great addition to the museum!
Awesome stuff John!
Glad you enjoyed it
Hey John anyplace where i can buy the KC Munchkin game, i have been looking everywhere?@johnhancockretro
All the non-working games should run if the people holding the Atari name allow access to the internal menus within the Stella emulator. Then users can go in and select the correct game-specific settings. They need to allow enabling a developer mode or something. We had the same issue with the Amiga (A500) mini and they eventually added the dev mode enable so settings could be tweaked for specific games. Same things needs to be done with the 2600+.
I got a Atari plus at Christmas. I was surprised at how much of a pain it was to get games to load. It hated the Activision games I tried on it. Tried Megamania, River Raid, Spider Fighter and Chopper Command. All of them took several tries.
I recommend cleaning your carts as that might help. I did not experience this with mine.
@johnhancockretro , gave them a cleaning but not much of anything came off. Never had cleaned them before so was expecting them to be way dirtier. Maybe I need a one up card pr something over a qtip
Activision carts are notorious for building up oxide and corrosion on the contacts. Usually takes me 2-3 cleanings on some really bad carts. I recommend deoxit and the at least 90% isopropyl alcohol. Thanks for picking up Rabbit Transit for me a few years ago. I think it was you.
you have to clean carts. if you didn't actually clean but just thought "it looks clean", then it's not. Just plugging them alot will help
@provisionalhypothesis no I cleaned them but not much gunk was on my qtips afterwards
I hope they make an update for the stability of the paddle controllers. They emulate a bit jittery on the 2600+ but play perfectly on the original console.
Hi John, do you know if Food Fight (PAL version) might work with the update? Thanks for Beta testing and your great report👍
Hello John, this is mostly my ignorance and i know a lot of stuff was removed from the Atari Age shop but is it possible to sample or even play the full version of Bob DeCrescenzos work still? I'm sure carts must go for silly prices now in the wild. I'm just looking to experience the love that Bob and other very hard working enthusiast have done. In short I had no idea and really missed on this great experience.
RipOff and Space Duel were some of my fave arcade games.i didnt see them very often around though. Star Castle was another one of my faves and i think i tried an emulated version for PC, but It couldn't emulate the freefloating non -gravity feeling though like the original. Just didnt have same movement so it loses something.
Failsafe looks actually pretty cool,id never seen it before.
I have a really amazing Omega Race version for my old atari system, i cant remember offhand who made it, (they made the Mountain King game also that i have) but this version is like almost dead on exact to the original arcade version, its got that floaty, low gravity feeling and action of the ship done super well, and the game came with a gimmicky joystick add-on that went on over the regular joystick and made it into a thicker,taller aircraft type joystick with a firing button on top of the joystick, because the game changed the lower button into thrust control and then weapon fire was on the trigger on joystick. made it highly similar feel as the original cabinet game.
Glad to hear about Circus Convoy. Aside from that I have been pretty happy with my 2600+ so far.
Great beta update review, John! So glad to see so many homebrew games working on the Atari 2600+ now! However, what's up with Video 61 Sales? Did they go out of business? Their website doesn't continue past the title page! 😊👍👍✨️
They are selling via email. I was able to find that on their website ;).
@@johnhancockretro Fantastic! Thanks for the information! 😊
They should release full-colour boxes and manuals with their games to match the quality of the software they make.
The 2600+ is creating lots of new consumers, so the demand will be there.
John, I don't have any Homebrew, what about Rampage 7800?????!!!!
Not working yet but many updates planned.
All these "are in the Atari Age store now" implies so many (most?) are not... Ohhh I want to buy so many of these now that I have a 2600+ with HDMI to play on a modern TV. Will they print new batches of these older carts? There were a couple programmers mentioned a number of times who had consistently great games... Man I want them!
Atariage dropped a lot of unlicensed titles when Atari acquired them this past summer . They will not be selling those titles again , unfortunately .
@@MrPoestyle That makes sense. hopefully we can get an SD slotted cart to put those ROMs in, even if it requires dip switches. Years back I started a list of AA games to buy. I still have my list and was raising the priority which is why I watched this video. At the time I fell on hard times and was forced to change career skills/path and had to be more responsible to avoid debt on making the situation worse. Oh well; life is good and there's reasons for everything-- keeping positive.
Yes, i agree, all it needs is pitfall 2 working!!!
have they improved the paddle emulation? I didn't like the way they moved in chunks rather than pixel by pixel as they should.
How about Atari 2600 Boulder Dash?
I have Donkey Kong w/ the POKEY, I sure hope they update the emulator to handle that. It's so well done.
The new update plays that ;)
Very interesting. So your future home brews will they be a physical cartridge or download? Thinking of stepping back into Atari console and looking at the 2600+ as well as VCS while it is still on sale for holidays 2023.
Both. I offer my games on itch.io as well as physical in small batches.
Are they going to come out with games redone for it ?
All I care about is pitfall 2.
I jus need Pitt fall 2 make it happy John 😮😮😮😮😮
Some great home brew show cased. Aside from some Activision titles I’ve generally had a good experience. Apart from Grand Prix won’t work with my original paddles but super breakout does?
There are two different paddles for the 2600. One has a driving logo on it and the other has a tennis logo on it. The mechanism inside used for the rotation is different. The paddle version uses a 1M-ohm pot that can rotate plus and minus about 165 degrees and measures the actual absolute position of the pot. The driving controller uses a rotary encoder that can rotation 360 degrees continually and measures the relative position as the change in movement from the current position. They are two totally different technologies.
@@g4z-kb7ct cheers I did not know that. Guess i better source the driving one.
Does Ball Breaker 7800 (PAL) work well with it now? Anyone know?
How about robot tank??
Still no Pitfall II. I have the cartridge on hand just in case.
It may be awhile for that one.
More then half of my Atari 2600 home brews don't work!
When they come out with updates for everyone player this year, how will I be able to update my Atari 2600+ system to get the latest updates?
Go on Atariage and follow the subforums about 2600+
@johnhancockretro got it! I just emailed them thank you! I have Venture and Enduro and they don't seem to play on Version 1.0, so hopefully 1.1 Beta will do the trick!
Hey do you have a pal 7800 game to try ?
I do not
Disappointed super circus atariage isn't working. Oh well.
If you get a chance john, can you do some game play on standard 7800 asteroids with a 2 button controller to see if that phantom warp with no button press is still an issue
Played a minute and no issues from what I see with that game.
@johnhancockretro ok if you get a chance play it for 10 or 15 minutes. Move around a lot. I've heard from 3 or 4 other people who've noticed it. Love your videos. Thanks John 😊
The fact that this will not run Pitfall 2 is a deal breaker for me.
What about 7800 Rampage? And were the buttons correct now?
Rampage still does not work. Tested that and got garbage on the screen.
Cool!
Hey John , any idea if they are working on if Harnony 2600 will be able to work on it ?
I doubt it will ever be working. It's not in the best interests of Atari to allow them (essentially pirated games) to run. They want to sell re-released carts. If you want to use a multicart just buy a real 2600 and mod it to output composite. Most (good) TVs have component video outputs (red/blue/green) and the green Y output is also used for composite output. Use a composite cable, plug the yellow RCA plug into the green Y jack and use one of the red/white RCA audio jacks for audio. works great on my LG 55" 4K TV. If your TV doesn't have component buy one that does and be sure to look at the specs of the TV you are going to buy and don't buy it if it doesn't support component/composite.
You can also RGB mod your 2600, or better yet - just get a 7800 and 7800GD, use the RGB out and upscale into HDMI. Then you can play literally _everything!_ No emulation BS to deal with. 👍
@@R3TR0R4V3rgb is useless to the average person. Sure, someone with a PVM or 80's computer monitor like a Commodore 1084 can use rgb but otherwise there are very few display devices that can accept a rgb video input. People want to use it on a standard TV. What kind of rgb display device do you think most people have?
GORF Arcade?
I would be more inclined to buy one if they made the USA only cartridges available worldwide or at least release here them in Europe.
Yep agree, let’s hope the retailers in Europe sales, open up this up for us
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How was the update installed?
Atariage forum shows instructions
@@johnhancockretro Thanks John
@@johnhancockretroThanks again John! My Atari 2600+ is up and running playing Circus Convoy and Tunnel Runner now! Sadly Aardvark loads but won’t play.
It looks like Pitfall II will never be playable because the DPC chip sits between the cart edge connector and the ROM so dumping it completely from the edge is impossible. That means the best game on the 2600 will never work and that means the end of the 2600+ project LOL! If they can figure out a way to dump the ROM from the connector then it should run because 2600+ is just running a port of the well-tested Stella emulator which runs Pitfall2 just fine (on the PC version) as-is by just loading the 32kB rom.... Stella emulates the DPC chip internally so it appears whoever ported it to the generic ARM9-based SOC inside the 2600+ has disabled a bunch of additional Stella emulation features or is using an old version that didn't support extra chips inside carts or they can't figure out how to dump it from the edge. If that never happens the 2600+ is just an embarrassment and they should re-design a proper 2600 that works like the original does using an FPGA.
It can be done, and Plaion is working towards that.
The emulator just needs to be expanded to do so.
BigPEmu for example, is an HD remaster Jaguar game (see Chequered Flag) to modern standards, adding features not present in the original games such as modern V.R. support, online gaming for all multiplayer games, analogue controller support, and much more besides.
A.V.P now has a 32-player online deathmatch mode for example.
I actually ordered a 2nd 2600+ for backup purposes lol 😂
Well it's a start, but there's a long way to go.. You're still better off using real hardware. 🤷🏻
But this works better with modern tv sets and will have built in pokey and YM sound options. A game changer for hobbyists.
2600+ is a waste of $. There's a better option to buy, Atari Flashback 12 Gold. If you wanna play cartridges play on a real Atari. 2600+ is just a old emulator they took and put it in a Atari shell. Atari is bull sh*tting
Well it's useful if someone has a large collection of real carts and needs HDMI output. But yeah I agree the 2600+ isn't that impressive. The lack of Pitfall II and multicart support really lets it down and that will be the final nail in the coffin that seals its fate. I only bought one so I can update it with hacked firmware when it is eventually cracked then load on other emulators hehe!
umm. lol. you don't get it. yes, we can all play stuff on emulators on handhelds from china. we know. we have those. This is for people that want an atari cart experience at their home and have a job, lol You can be literally done selecting 40 or so carts for it in 2 months.
@@provisionalhypothesis A job? That's not a prerequisite. I'm retired with 7-figures in the bank and I haven't worked since 2015 LOL! The 2600+ is a waste of money *IF* the person does not have a large collection of real carts. Otherwise there's no reason to buy a 2600+ because it doesn't support the best game on the system (Pitfall II) and doesn't support multicarts. One of those Kinhank Super Console X3 boxes (with 60000 games included ) is a better buy for a random person who just wants to play a few old games and has minimum space available and/or a wife who doesn't want a cluttered mess of old junk lying around. The Super Console X3 is very wife-friendly ;-)
@@provisionalhypothesis but you are not actually playing the cartridge on a 2600+. its the same old emulator thats been out for years and is on a bunch of other Atari stuff. 2600+ is only made to look and feel like you're playing the cartridge but you are actually not.
Hey John did they say when the 7800 two button controllers are coming out?