"Words, when spoken out loud for the sake of performance, are music. They have rhythm, and pitch, and timbre, and volume. These are the properties of music, and music has the ability to find us and move us, and lift us up in ways that literal meanings can't." - The perfect explanation of Aaron Sorkin's writing style
I love the scene. Abby: "You are an oratorical snob." Jed: "Yes I am and God loves me for it." Abby: "I thought you said He was sending you to hell." Jed "For other stuff not for this."
Honestly they are the most believable loving couples- even when conflicting/ arguing ?They have rules they abide by and so much chemistry ! Their banter / talk seems honestly to come form decades together....brilliant casting and acting! Also ? Stockard Channing emits the vibrance and sexuality that makes him giving up the idea of the priesthood? Utterly believable!
At 0:56 when Bartlet says "he had a captive audience, and the way I know that is because I tried to tunnel out of there several times, he had an audience and he didn't know what to do with it ..." is just hysterical.
One of the sharpest, wittiest repartees between this dynamic couple throughout the series. After Sorkin left, the dialogue lacked the "panache" described by President Bartlet which came to embody the earlier seasons.
I will not sit here and lie. For about the first 4 times I rewatched this scene I understood about 10% of this conversation. Like what the hell does “oratorical” mean and why is he so upset that he used Ephesians to talk about marriage 😂 but anyways after doing a few dictionary searches and watching it a few more times. I quite like this scene. Aaron Sorkin is a very detailed writer.
Ephesians 5:25 “Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;” Hugh and I RIP Hugh Lloyd and Terry Scott. The latter famous for griping about "My Brother" You and I are just like a couple of tots. Running across the meadows picking up lots of for-get-me-nots?❤ The West West finish? 😊 King James Version (KJV)
Because you have two smart, skilled, experienced actors playing two smart, skilled, experienced people (a statesman/scholar and a medical doctor) both strong in conviction, deep in compassion and more than eager and willing to go head to head in a verbal sparing match not for the sake of dominance but rather it brings out the best in each. We should all be so lucky to find a such partner in life.
@@steampunker7 im not the midwit acting like the show that sounds like it was written by someone on adderall is good. you need to go back to browsing reddit and watching marvel movies
@@SneedEmFeedEm292 The heck is a "midwit?" Also, proper punctuation and capitalization goes a long way to demonstrating your maturity and intelligence. Try it some time. You might find yourself getting taken seriously more often.
The worst thing to happen to this show was lose Sorkin and all his weirdness after season 4. They totally fucked up this couple after he left and it was so unnecessary and out of character.
@@seamusbenn2967 @Kojin MacJorn Actually it IS 3x5, because most people/streaming sites (INCORRECTLY) assume that "Isaac and Ishmael" is 3x1, but that episode isn't supposed to be included in the season 3 arc. The cast even mentions it at the beginning of the episode.
@@alexeriquezzo7600 it was written in 62 AD, so it's not even 2000 years old. And if you believe in such things as that we date our calendar to the death of Jesus, then you have to realize that 3 generations of elders had died since his death before pen was put to parchment
I am impressed you know? I do not say it often but - yes. Someone is on my wavelength; or more to the point I am on theirs. Literally Going To Hell In a Handcart. Foot Washing. I could now look up the aptness of Ephesians - which sounds like a very rare breed of cow to me now. Jed and Abbey Bartlet 3x5 - Ephesians - Tampopo weekend. Noodles and Once Upon a time in a vest. Heaven obviously knows Ms Allison Abner. Writer of this fine opening but Jed Bartlet is brought back to Earth via report that an old boyfriend of Abbey Bartlet had fictionally died. Was it that episode?
this comment just proves to me this show is for redditors and midwits (dead average IQ, just smart enough to watch something where the characters talk fast paced and pretentious and think that means it's an intelligent show)
They both went to Notre Dame. One of the best schools in the country that just so happens to be a catholic school. Jed has always generally been the smartest person in the room and has had strong religious feelings. You can be both. Just because your an atheist dosnt make you automatically smarter. Being religious doesn't make you stupid either.
Oh do we REALLY want to get into a discussion about who "picks the bits they like" out of the Bible? Because the West Wing has a few things to say on that subject as well: ruclips.net/video/3CPjWd4MUXs/видео.html
Problem is thanks to the broadness of the 2nd Amendment not everyone who owns firearms are aware of how to handle one. Even those appointed to "Serve and Protect"
pure fiction and no real heart. this passes as excellence in tv viewing. if this program is consider among the best, turn off all tv sets and undertake anything else. as i see and hear it, this writing is a vanity and servant to sorkin's grandiosity.
this scene was so embarrassing and pretentious writing. honestly beginning to see that that's all this show was. I used to think this was genius writing but it just sounds like someone on adderall wrote it. very cringe
"Words, when spoken out loud for the sake of performance, are music. They have rhythm,
and pitch, and timbre, and volume. These are the properties of music, and music has the
ability to find us and move us, and lift us up in ways that literal meanings can't."
- The perfect explanation of Aaron Sorkin's writing style
What a beautifully written statement 🥰
You want another example of this but from real life?
Listen to Mohammed Ali's "I am the greatest" speech.
"The perfect explanation of Aaron Sorkin's writing style"
Well, that and cocaine.
I love the scene.
Abby: "You are an oratorical snob."
Jed: "Yes I am and God loves me for it."
Abby: "I thought you said He was sending you to hell."
Jed "For other stuff not for this."
I love how childish bartlet is sometimes in an endearing sort of way. His talk of wanting to tunnel out of there is a perfect example.
Martin and Stockard were made for each other...ON SCREEN....love watching them over and over again...
Only Jed and Abby could flirt over a Biblical passage.
oh, no, I know several couples who can do that. Only good fictional couple I have ever seen do it though.
I’d flirt with Abby over ketchup
Honestly they are the most believable loving couples- even when conflicting/ arguing ?They have rules they abide by and so much chemistry ! Their banter / talk seems honestly to come form decades together....brilliant casting and acting! Also ? Stockard Channing emits the vibrance and sexuality that makes him giving up the idea of the priesthood? Utterly believable!
"I have no problem with Ephesians, and any time you want me to cleanse you with the washing of water, you know I'm up for it."
"We should be subject to one another."
True humility is a virtue.
“It’s church, Jed.”
“Oh, like I’m not going to hell anyway.”
At 0:56 when Bartlet says "he had a captive audience, and the way I know that is because I tried to tunnel out of there several times, he had an audience and he didn't know what to do with it ..." is just hysterical.
If only we could that smart, witty, clever, and articulate in real life 😊
One of the sharpest, wittiest repartees between this dynamic couple throughout the series. After Sorkin left, the dialogue lacked the "panache" described by President Bartlet which came to embody the earlier seasons.
When Sorkin left it wasn't quite the same, but it was still the best scripted television show I've ever seen or ever will see.
Sorkin West Wing = 4K
Non-Sorkin West Wing = 1080p
The dialogue picked up again eventually.
Truer words about twenty four hour news cycle have never been spoken!
I will not sit here and lie. For about the first 4 times I rewatched this scene I understood about 10% of this conversation. Like what the hell does “oratorical” mean and why is he so upset that he used Ephesians to talk about marriage 😂 but anyways after doing a few dictionary searches and watching it a few more times. I quite like this scene. Aaron Sorkin is a very detailed writer.
Is there anything worse,than having to deliver terrible news,to someone who is,up 'til then having a great time?
Singing a hymn this morning with this language from Ephesians, and this scene came to mind, lol!
1:26 "[Ephesians] has nothing to do with husbands and wives; it's all of us."
It's both.
Sometimes I feel bad for Charlie lol
"Oh like I'm not already going to Hell." 🤣🤣🤣🤣
"..in splendor."
Jeez, Jed. Washing of water, he's a sex machine. LOL.
The way the wind just goes completely out of his sails after CJ tells him the news..........ah what agreat bit of acting.
Ephesians 5:25
“Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;”
Hugh and I
RIP Hugh Lloyd and Terry Scott.
The latter famous for griping about "My Brother"
You and I are just like a couple of tots. Running across the meadows picking up lots of for-get-me-nots?❤
The West West finish? 😊
King James Version (KJV)
But why are they so cute?
Because you have two smart, skilled, experienced actors playing two smart, skilled, experienced people (a statesman/scholar and a medical doctor) both strong in conviction, deep in compassion and more than eager and willing to go head to head in a verbal sparing match not for the sake of dominance but rather it brings out the best in each.
We should all be so lucky to find a such partner in life.
@@steampunker7 we should all be so unlucky to be this pretentious
@@SneedEmFeedEm292 Wow. Three whole syllables on that last word. Careful there Maxie. Don't use all your brilliance up all at once.
@@steampunker7 im not the midwit acting like the show that sounds like it was written by someone on adderall is good. you need to go back to browsing reddit and watching marvel movies
@@SneedEmFeedEm292 The heck is a "midwit?"
Also, proper punctuation and capitalization goes a long way to demonstrating your maturity and intelligence. Try it some time. You might find yourself getting taken seriously more often.
Hugh and I Series 1 & 2 The Remaining Episodes on DVD
The worst thing to happen to this show was lose Sorkin and all his weirdness after season 4. They totally fucked up this couple after he left and it was so unnecessary and out of character.
I bet they went to church intending to pray for the girl.
'He's feisty. Please, don't ask him about church.'
Only Jed could take a theological debate and use it as stage 1 of going 'full Biblical.'
This isn't 3x5. I just watched it and this wasn't in it.
Kojin MacJorn it’s the very next one
@@seamusbenn2967 @Kojin MacJorn Actually it IS 3x5, because most people/streaming sites (INCORRECTLY) assume that "Isaac and Ishmael" is 3x1, but that episode isn't supposed to be included in the season 3 arc. The cast even mentions it at the beginning of the episode.
"It sucked."
Remind me, who was Melissa Markey?
From the brief bit of context I wonder if she was another American student.
She was a victim at a church shooting in Texas - she was nine years old.
@@katesmith-thompson5500 Thank you!
People who spend that much time worrying about some 2000 year old book always weirds me out.
Found one in the wild!
It’s much older than two thousand years
@@alexeriquezzo7600 it was written in 62 AD, so it's not even 2000 years old. And if you believe in such things as that we date our calendar to the death of Jesus, then you have to realize that 3 generations of elders had died since his death before pen was put to parchment
I am impressed you know? I do not say it often but - yes. Someone is on my wavelength; or more to the point I am on theirs.
Literally Going To Hell In a Handcart.
Foot Washing. I could now look up the aptness of Ephesians - which sounds like a very rare breed of cow to me now.
Jed and Abbey Bartlet 3x5 - Ephesians - Tampopo weekend. Noodles and Once Upon a time in a vest.
Heaven obviously knows Ms Allison Abner. Writer of this fine opening but Jed Bartlet is brought back to Earth via report that an old boyfriend of Abbey Bartlet had fictionally died. Was it that episode?
Anyone as smart as Jed and Abby Bartlett would have been atheists.
I would agree but I met some seriously smart people both biblical and political and they’ve always been Christians
this comment just proves to me this show is for redditors and midwits (dead average IQ, just smart enough to watch something where the characters talk fast paced and pretentious and think that means it's an intelligent show)
They both went to Notre Dame. One of the best schools in the country that just so happens to be a catholic school. Jed has always generally been the smartest person in the room and has had strong religious feelings. You can be both. Just because your an atheist dosnt make you automatically smarter. Being religious doesn't make you stupid either.
A real orator would know timbre is pronounced tamber.
Yeah Jesus faked his death for a weekend for our sins.
Uhu. Pick the bits you like and ignore the rest. Liberalism 101.
Liberals do that with the bible, conservatives do it with reality.
Yokai You're delusional, and clearly a shallow ideologue.
Oh do we REALLY want to get into a discussion about who "picks the bits they like" out of the Bible? Because the West Wing has a few things to say on that subject as well:
ruclips.net/video/3CPjWd4MUXs/видео.html
@@luqas99 Conservatives do it with reality AND the Bible.
You are a stout moron if you think any bit of this show could be perceived as a metaphorical compliment to conservatism.
Any one who knows about firearms knows NOT to shoot unless there is a clear view of the target. The premis of this plot line is absurd
Problem is thanks to the broadness of the 2nd Amendment not everyone who owns firearms are aware of how to handle one. Even those appointed to "Serve and Protect"
Yes the thing that happens multiple times every year is absurd, not your belief that it doesn't happen...
Sure, that's why there are so many deaths due to accidental shootings in the USA.
What sane human being will argue such stupid topic...
pure fiction and no real heart. this passes as excellence in tv viewing. if this program is consider among the best, turn off all tv sets and undertake anything else. as i see and hear it, this writing is a vanity and servant to sorkin's grandiosity.
Eva has spent the last year watching The Big Bang Theory.
As I see it, this writing is that of a moron.
Mine, Eva's, or the show? Your writing wasn't very clear on that point.
I would love to know what you consider to be "excellence in tv viewing".
I bet you are fun at parties
this scene was so embarrassing and pretentious writing. honestly beginning to see that that's all this show was. I used to think this was genius writing but it just sounds like someone on adderall wrote it. very cringe