Thanks for the review. One thing I would like to see in all reviews of thermal optics is the ambient temperature. I made the big mistake some years ago of buying one of the LT Tracker sights. It was unusable here in Australia due to the inability to differentiate between animals and the surrounding trees, grass and rocks that were as hot as the body temperature of the animals. I tried to follow blood trails but to no avail. Maybe they are a good option in North America where you have snow and lower temperatures, but not here where the residual temperature remains high right through the night.
Harlan S The Trail XP38 and XP50’s are officially discontinued and haven’t shipped into the US in several months now. The Trail LRF models are still available. We have the Thermion XP38 and XP50 in stock which have a higher resolution display screen and new improved thermal core that offers better image quality than they Trail models. Hope that helps. Jason
Thanks for the question. It's hard to define exactly how clear something is but 6 power is 3.75x the base magnification. Comparatively, 3.75x the base mag of the Zeus 3x 640 75mm is going to be 9x. The XP50 at 6 power and the Zeus 640 75mm at 9 power will be close to the same image quality. The only advantage the Zeus has is the 75mm objective lens, which can't be overlooked. But otherwise, they will have a very similar image quality. The difference is, the XP50 is going to be much better suited for 30-80 yard shots than the Zeus will because the lower magnification is better at close ranges. The Zeus 640 75mm is going excel at shots over 100 yards for sure because of the higher magnification. The Zeus is a great scope but you have to weigh the other factors such as, it's 4+ years old, it has no internal video recording, no removable/rechargeable battery pack, no smart phone app, no picture in picture and the Armasight brand name is going away as FLIR continues to slowly release more new thermals under their own name since they bought Armasight 2+ years ago. Also, to get the Zeus in 60hz you're looking at a $1,000 upgrade and every Pulsar is 50hz standard. Those reasons don't make the Zeus' line bad but it definitely makes them much less desirable at this point in time. Most people don't want to spend $5,000+ on a 4+ year old scope with a brand name that is no longer even in existence. And to be clear, this isn't some beef with Armasight/FLIR. I'm a FLIR dealer and they make great products and I was an Armasight dealer long before FLIR bought them out. I just think the facts are worth considering before spending this kind of money. Hope that helps!
@@outdoorlegacy definately something to consider what do you think about the flir 536 vs the pulsar trail xp 50 Im about to buy 1 real soon and I want to know what I need to get. As far as animal identification not just knowing somethin is there but knowing what it is whatsthe difference betweenthe 2 listed above?
Seth Lampman Seth Lampman Good question but it’s a little too involved to fully explain here. Let me offer a couple suggestions though.... HansETX and I recently had a full discussion and comparison of the XP50 and the PTS536 on our podcast The Late Night Vision Show. You can watch it on RUclips here.... ruclips.net/video/xWAbRUTyIkU/видео.html Or listen to it via any of the major podcast hosting apps. anchor.fm/thelatenightvisionshow/episodes/Ep--21---Industry-News---Pulsar-XP50-vs-FLIR-PTS536-e2a2c3 If you’d like to talk on the phone for an in depth discussion you can call me at (877)350-1818. I’m not avoiding your question here it’s just a ton to type to compare those 2 scopes because they are honestly apples and oranges but each excellent in their own right.
I'm new to thermals. I have a vortex viper PST scope. My zero is set at 100 yards. Anything beyond I dial my yardage with my turrets. 600 yards was 32 clicks. How is this accomplished with this thermal scope? Thank you
Eric, thanks for the question. Unfortunately, you wouldn’t be able do anything like that with this scope or any other thermal currently on the consumer market. It has no yardage compensation features. It works just like a standard daytime rifle scope in that regard. If you zero it at 100 yards you will have to estimate your hold over for further distances. Also, it’s worth noting that shooting over 200-250 yards at night with thermal is generally not recommended although it’s possible in some situations. One feature the Trails do have is the ability to zero at multiple distances. So for instance, you could have a 100, 200 and 300 yard zero. The problem is this isn’t easy to change on the fly. You have to go into the menu and manually change those settings. I hope that helps. -Jason
Kyodaikuma Pulsar International often uses the word “sight” for what (in the US) we would call a handheld monocular. A monocular is just for observation and does not have crosshairs and can’t be mounted to a rifle. A scope is a weapons mountable optic with crosshairs. Hope that clears it up. - Jason
Hi, I have a Pulsar XP50 and suddenly i started to see on the down left side of the screen the term ( Test Mode) and i cant see thermal imaging, and i couldnt get out of that mode, eventhough the menu work as usual, i appreciate any help regarding that
Fares, that is a really odd problem. Assuming you bought the scope new from an authorized Pulsar dealer, you should still have a warranty on the scope. I would recommend giving them a call and letting them know about the problem. Assuming you are in the US, you will want to call Sellmark who is the North American distributor for Pulsar and they will be the one to handle any warranty claims.
Bryant A Gotcha! The Helions are handheld monoculars. They are not weapons mountable and do not have crosshairs. They look and function nearly the same but they are handheld only. Hope that helps.
Outdoor Legacy Gear thank you. I've been researching for a couple of weeks now. I really want to find the best thermal scope out there before I drop $5k.
Bryant A I’m about to be tied up for awhile but I’ll reply more in detail later. I would suggest giving me a call on Monday and I will answer your questions and give you my 2 cents. No hard sales, no pressure to buy anything at all and that’s a promise. Just free advice. (877)350-1818 Jason
They are $4,999 which definitely isn't cheap but it was the #1 most sought after thermal scope for the whole industry in 2017. The way things are looking now, it will easily hold that rank for 2018. Pulsar has never been able to produce enough to keep up with the demand and they are back ordered to the gills still today, over 1 full year since it was announced. Again, $5,000 is a whole lot of money but it was only a few years ago that any decent thermal was $5,000 and now you've got really good entry level thermal for less than $2,000. And to be clear, the Trijicon thermals are extremely popular and they range from $7,000-$10,000, so the XP50 is a bargain compared to some of it's higher end thermal competitors.
Thanks for the review. One thing I would like to see in all reviews of thermal optics is the ambient temperature. I made the big mistake some years ago of buying one of the LT Tracker sights. It was unusable here in Australia due to the inability to differentiate between animals and the surrounding trees, grass and rocks that were as hot as the body temperature of the animals. I tried to follow blood trails but to no avail. Maybe they are a good option in North America where you have snow and lower temperatures, but not here where the residual temperature remains high right through the night.
Nailed it!!! Great review man, love the new intro!
Joel Powell Thanks Joel! Greatly appreciate it.
@@outdoorlegacy sir this scope which price
good example of scopes capability's thank you for the review
Thanks for the kind words sir, they are greatly appreciated.
id like to see how the shooting profile works ..its ot like a ballistics calculator
thanks for the review
Airgun Hunter Extreme Channel thanks for the comments. Glad you enjoyed it.
If you have a XP38 in stock I'll buy one right now.
Harlan S The Trail XP38 and XP50’s are officially discontinued and haven’t shipped into the US in several months now. The Trail LRF models are still available. We have the Thermion XP38 and XP50 in stock which have a higher resolution display screen and new improved thermal core that offers better image quality than they Trail models.
Hope that helps.
Jason
When you zoom to like 6 power how clear is it? I have looked on the armasight zeuss 640 75mm and I like that one how does this compare?
Thanks for the question. It's hard to define exactly how clear something is but 6 power is 3.75x the base magnification. Comparatively, 3.75x the base mag of the Zeus 3x 640 75mm is going to be 9x. The XP50 at 6 power and the Zeus 640 75mm at 9 power will be close to the same image quality. The only advantage the Zeus has is the 75mm objective lens, which can't be overlooked. But otherwise, they will have a very similar image quality. The difference is, the XP50 is going to be much better suited for 30-80 yard shots than the Zeus will because the lower magnification is better at close ranges. The Zeus 640 75mm is going excel at shots over 100 yards for sure because of the higher magnification.
The Zeus is a great scope but you have to weigh the other factors such as, it's 4+ years old, it has no internal video recording, no removable/rechargeable battery pack, no smart phone app, no picture in picture and the Armasight brand name is going away as FLIR continues to slowly release more new thermals under their own name since they bought Armasight 2+ years ago. Also, to get the Zeus in 60hz you're looking at a $1,000 upgrade and every Pulsar is 50hz standard. Those reasons don't make the Zeus' line bad but it definitely makes them much less desirable at this point in time. Most people don't want to spend $5,000+ on a 4+ year old scope with a brand name that is no longer even in existence. And to be clear, this isn't some beef with Armasight/FLIR. I'm a FLIR dealer and they make great products and I was an Armasight dealer long before FLIR bought them out. I just think the facts are worth considering before spending this kind of money. Hope that helps!
@@outdoorlegacy definately something to consider what do you think about the flir 536 vs the pulsar trail xp 50 Im about to buy 1 real soon and I want to know what I need to get. As far as animal identification not just knowing somethin is there but knowing what it is whatsthe difference betweenthe 2 listed above?
Seth Lampman Seth Lampman Good question but it’s a little too involved to fully explain here. Let me offer a couple suggestions though.... HansETX and I recently had a full discussion and comparison of the XP50 and the PTS536 on our podcast The Late Night Vision Show. You can watch it on RUclips here.... ruclips.net/video/xWAbRUTyIkU/видео.html Or listen to it via any of the major podcast hosting apps. anchor.fm/thelatenightvisionshow/episodes/Ep--21---Industry-News---Pulsar-XP50-vs-FLIR-PTS536-e2a2c3
If you’d like to talk on the phone for an in depth discussion you can call me at (877)350-1818. I’m not avoiding your question here it’s just a ton to type to compare those 2 scopes because they are honestly apples and oranges but each excellent in their own right.
I'm new to thermals. I have a vortex viper PST scope. My zero is set at 100 yards. Anything beyond I dial my yardage with my turrets. 600 yards was 32 clicks. How is this accomplished with this thermal scope? Thank you
Eric, thanks for the question. Unfortunately, you wouldn’t be able do anything like that with this scope or any other thermal currently on the consumer market. It has no yardage compensation features. It works just like a standard daytime rifle scope in that regard. If you zero it at 100 yards you will have to estimate your hold over for further distances. Also, it’s worth noting that shooting over 200-250 yards at night with thermal is generally not recommended although it’s possible in some situations.
One feature the Trails do have is the ability to zero at multiple distances. So for instance, you could have a 100, 200 and 300 yard zero. The problem is this isn’t easy to change on the fly. You have to go into the menu and manually change those settings.
I hope that helps.
-Jason
Or you can use your normal scope and get the version that mounts in front of your optics.
Then hold over and clicks work as normal.
Would it operate in 30 c temp at night ? , or would it’s performance be reduced?
Anthony forgive me if I’m wrong but isn’t 30 c actually 86F?
Hi good afternoon can you shop this directly to Iraq
BASHEER AHMED No international shipping at all. US Federal law strictly prevents this from being shipped outside of the 50 US states.
you might get to order one directly from an FBI agent at your front door.
What's the difference between a pulsar thermal sight and a pulsar thermal scope?
Kyodaikuma Pulsar International often uses the word “sight” for what (in the US) we would call a handheld monocular. A monocular is just for observation and does not have crosshairs and can’t be mounted to a rifle. A scope is a weapons mountable optic with crosshairs. Hope that clears it up. - Jason
Thanks!
How far it can detect human sized subject?
Pulsar’s specs say the XP50 has a detection range of a human at about 1800 meters.
Hi, I have a Pulsar XP50 and suddenly i started to see on the down left side of the screen the term ( Test Mode) and i cant see thermal imaging, and i couldnt get out of that mode, eventhough the menu work as usual, i appreciate any help regarding that
Fares, that is a really odd problem. Assuming you bought the scope new from an authorized Pulsar dealer, you should still have a warranty on the scope. I would recommend giving them a call and letting them know about the problem. Assuming you are in the US, you will want to call Sellmark who is the North American distributor for Pulsar and they will be the one to handle any warranty claims.
Outdoor Legacy thank you
How many much???
Mandaumusa Apaisinchan near $5000
Difference between this and Trail XP50?
Bryant A This video review is for the Trail XP50. Were you referring to a different optic?
Outdoor Legacy Gear yes. I meant the Helion
Bryant A Gotcha! The Helions are handheld monoculars. They are not weapons mountable and do not have crosshairs. They look and function nearly the same but they are handheld only. Hope that helps.
Outdoor Legacy Gear thank you. I've been researching for a couple of weeks now. I really want to find the best thermal scope out there before I drop $5k.
Bryant A I’m about to be tied up for awhile but I’ll reply more in detail later. I would suggest giving me a call on Monday and I will answer your questions and give you my 2 cents. No hard sales, no pressure to buy anything at all and that’s a promise. Just free advice.
(877)350-1818
Jason
unless you own a bank you won't get one of these.
They are $4,999 which definitely isn't cheap but it was the #1 most sought after thermal scope for the whole industry in 2017. The way things are looking now, it will easily hold that rank for 2018. Pulsar has never been able to produce enough to keep up with the demand and they are back ordered to the gills still today, over 1 full year since it was announced.
Again, $5,000 is a whole lot of money but it was only a few years ago that any decent thermal was $5,000 and now you've got really good entry level thermal for less than $2,000. And to be clear, the Trijicon thermals are extremely popular and they range from $7,000-$10,000, so the XP50 is a bargain compared to some of it's higher end thermal competitors.