An Evening with George R.R. Martin and Kim Stanley Robinson
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- Опубликовано: 25 май 2017
- The Clarion Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers Workshop and the Arthur C. Clarke Center for Human Imagination present an evening with George R.R. Martin and Kim Stanley Robinson, held at UC San Diego in support of the Clarion Workshop. For more information, visit imagination.ucsd.edu and clarion.ucsd.edu.
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Anyone else likes listening to George Martin's interviews?
Rafa baba have you heard him read his sample chapters? I would honestly buy the audio books if he did them
Hank Fahly no because I'm not caught up in the books :( but where can I find the sample chapters ?
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You can find links to some of them on the Winds of Winter page on the website 'A Wiki of Ice and Fire', although if you aren't caught up to the books yet, be careful.
I already run up of Martin's interviews. I watch it while eating, cleaning my room, cooking and shiting.
Guests come on at 8:22
thedarkness97 u deserve a spot in heaven
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Lol long time since I been called a kid, but Your'e welcome.
Thanks so much dude
She even called the book series A song of fire and ice. so cringey...
Two of my favorite authors. I never imagined I'd find an event with them speaking together!
Here for Kim Stanley Robinson. His new book, The Ministry for the Future is outstanding! And like everyone else I’m eagerly waiting for the final Fire and Ice book(s?) from GRRM.
I like her laugh. It helps me distinguish this interview from others... they're all jumbled in together. Now I won't have to finish it to realize I've already watched it.
Love them both. Great storytellers we’re lucky enough to be alive with at the same time.
I remember when I read GRRM was going to be in San Diego and not being able to go. I was hoping the talk would end up online and here it is! Thank you!
every time GRRM does a sit-down like this, he gets asked the same fuckin questions, year in and year out. Never any questions about the lore and history of the story, but instead always the same general questions, and I'm OVER IT.
the same is true for pretty much all writer interviews. the big events always aim to please a 'general audience', so hardcore fans must always be disappointed
usually the interviewer hasn't read the the work of the guests, just the wiki page. They do a lot of interviews I doubt they would even have the time to be fans. Pretty sad system.
Watch George’s interview by John Hodgman from the launch of Fire and Blood. That is far an away the best GRRM interview I have seen. Hodgman really knows and cares about the ASOIAF world and history.
These interviews are priceless. Its like getting to interview everyone that have met and read in one interview.
The audio is driving me nuts.
I wish she didn't mess up A song of Ice and fire title :/
Thank you for posting this, it is inspiring.
Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars Great trilogy
just finished listening to Red Mars audiobook and have been watching GOT season 7
Love both authors work
AWildBard Fucking masterpieces, the both of them.
Fuck audiobooks and watching tv shows. Read the books
@@doesnotexist305 Audiobooks and TV series are great for exposure though. Since I watched the show first I was already familiar with the setting and the characters so the books were more accessible.
Thank you for the upload
Janice's laugh alert at 10:50.....🤣🤣
Nice nice. Woody Woodpecker in da building
Did anyone else notice the lady presenter call GRRMs series "Song of FIRE and ice"?
Putting the mic in his beard ended up being a bad idea lmaoo
I don't think they payed the sound guy, they just picked up some random person of the street I think
amateurs
Haha
GRRM loves sitting in big comfy chairs
Don't you?
He probably likes golden bejeweled crowns and giant Turkey legs too.
Some books that I would like to see in TV or film format is David Brin's, especially Earth. I feel a Robert Heinlein adaptation might be difficult and not live up to his genius. I have over 500 science fiction books (collection), I wouldn't even know which one I would begin with, lol
'Armageddon Rag' rocks !
more urban Fantasy Please , Georgie boy ! :)
22:05 - That's some dirty talk right there.
Good ear
interesting combo
the laugh @14:10
😂
Why can't she get the title of his series right???
Imagine living with the interviewer and being a funny guy.
Hmm G RR Martin has to understand that Science Fiction comes in many flavours. And while there is a big chunck of it for which it is true that it turns out to be more science fantasy there is also other science fiction like i.e. The Martian that puts a lot of effort in plausability.
In fact many categorise Science Fiction into: Science Fiction and Science Fantasy.
But that is not yet based on a claim of technical accuracy. That is based on what the narrative wants to achieve. Science Fantasy is basically what Martin is refereing here too, Fantasy just in space. Star Wars is a prime example for this one.
Science Fiction has a different goal. The reader (or watcher) should get the notion that this could happen. That the extraordinary stuff happening there has become mudane for the people we follow through the stuff (just as if someone from the early 19th century would read about takeing an airplane). Science fiction is a different style to tell stories and has a different goal for what it wants it's audience to feel while reading (watching) it. And then there is "hard" science Fiction that only leaps a little bit in the future and tries to root everything in the tech we have or tech that is plausible form our current viewpoint.
So I have to disagree Science Fiction can be quite different from Fantasy. At least from the Fantasy that is most common these days (epic Fantasy ala Tolkien). I give him that if you just define it in a broad sence and more or less say: Star Wars, Star Trek and The Martian are all Science Fiction he is more or less right but only because Star Wars is Science Fantasy and thus since his comparrision applies to that one and all are in the same group it still applies.
Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars trilogy is hard Sci-fi. He perhaps compresses the timescales required for terraforming, and has a longevity treatment to extend the lifespan of his characters so they live throughout Mars' transformation. But aside from those two liberties it's a really grounded, also hard science fiction can be set in the far future, but technologies have to be thought out and justified, and as few magical technologies like warp drives as possible for the story.
I think he does get that. He says earlier in the interview that he himself is not a hard science fiction guy like Robinson, and that his own work is essentially space fantasy, so he does understand the difference, and that there is other sci-fi than the type he writes. So I think if you are going to start breaking things into smaller sub-categories, then there are more clear differences - hard science fiction is quite different from high fantasy. But not all sci-fi is hard sci-fi and not all fantasy is epic fantasy with orcs and elves, so on that basis drawing a clear dividing line between fantasy and sci-fi is not really possible. They blur into each other. And even the hardest Sci-Fi will include some fantasy elements. I am not totally sure about the different aims of the different fields you describe either. I don’t see why you couldn’t write either genre in a way where the protagonists equally find either the scientific or magical elements to be completely normal to them, or vice-versa, where they couldn’t see things that seem totally out of the normal to them.
Really annoying when interviewers don't do their research by watching some of the other interviews available online. She asked so many questions he's been asked multiple times.
That dude that starts off XD *applause* "uh that's the usual reaction when I walk into a room, it's very familiar to me." Get out of here
Finish the book, George.
interesting how he calls it game of thrones now instead of ice and fire
because she hasn't read the books, is not a fan just a bureaucrat, she does her work and then leaves.
"song of fire and ice"?
how long will he finish the ice and fire
GRRM will probably eliminate the next person asking him about his historical research
His idea for game of thrones and myself are the same age. We both came into existence in 1991.
Lord Bolton It don't change the fact that I took my first breathe in 1991. Why you tryna kill my vibe?
Kassie Mitchell actually in another interview he said that he had the story planned out in the mid 80s but he didn't have a chance to write it so...
maybe in 20 years they will redo the show in 13 episodes per season 3D and VR :))))
Yesss.
George won't be here tho :(
This must be old, no?
Came to comments to see if I was the only one to need to comment on that lady's laugh... Cut her mic audio guy...
It actuall kind of surprises me that Martin would make fun of the guy who talked about "Star Trek isn't a science ficiton show, it's a people show." I mean, I can obviously see why Martin would feel like he was attacking science fiction and making distinctions that weren't there. But I also think that in what the person said there was something that Martin could agree with. If you rephrase what he said a bit, perhap the following sentence has a very similar meaning: "Star Trek isn't about high tech gadgets, it's a show about the human heart in conflict with itself."
I think his point was that the guy’s statement implied that SciFi is not and cannot be about people, or about “the human heart in conflict with itself”.
@@willmosse3684 yes exactly. GRRM wasn't saying that Star Trek wasn't about people, he was saying it was ridiculous to say it was about people, and therefore not science fiction.
I've always grouped Science Fiction and Sword&Sorcery in the same general grouping. It's not Grapes of Wrath. But it's fun. Futuristic Fantasy[1984, Clockwork Orange, Brave New World, etc.] can be very serious minded, though, with very big, thought inducing effects on the reader. David Brin is one of my favorite writers, easily, and I'm not reluctant to mention him when talking about "serious" literature. There can be life lessons weaved into unlikely places, if you look for them.
This lady's laughter... :-/
Go to 8:46 to skip the nobodies talking
Stan sounds like a male Siri when he talks.
I thought my fake laugh was bad..
GRRM at 8:41
I wanted to listen to this, until the guy introducing it ruined it for me...
That woman's laugh is so annoying.
one day I'll hear a fake interviewer laugh that's so bad it causes an aneurysm. This is close.
I'm not really liking the woman host. She laughs at everything and feels the need to tell the author that their book is their favourite book, or that she loves whatever book that they make. Feels untrue, feels dishonest, feels fake. On the other hand, maybe it's just nice to laugh at everything as common courtesy. At the end of the day; I found that the interview was an enjoyable watch. Only here for GRRM.
Made the 666th like :)
Congratulations... I'm sure the dark lord is impressed 🤣
I would love to know why he thinks Game of Thrones is a good adaptation. Sure maybe seasons 1-3 were a good adaptation but after that it went downhill.
He might be contractually obligated to be enthusiastic about the show regardless of his personal feelings. Plus if he goes around publicly bad mouthing the adaptations of his works, people might not want to adapt his works anymore.
I've always assumed Kim Stanley Robinson was a woman! LOL
"Hu-u-u-u-u-u-u !"
What is wrong with her ?!
Does she think she'st a sheep ?!
08:33 George RR Martin appears 😍.
I endured 8+ minutes of boredom so you don't have to.
Like if you agree 👍
...but the producer wasn't entirely wrong...
Interviewer is terrible
im first to comment do i win anything
nothing
Hahahaha her laugh actually is annoying
OMG that laugh is really cringy
It always irritates me when these girls (or even grown up women) start screaming like l don't know what. "Eeeeeeeeh!" . It's just beyond me how anybody can be so ignorant and shameless. I mean what are the others present supposed to feel about their screaming?!- 'Oh hey, can somebody call the looney bin ? There's an escapee among us (or a whole bunch of them actually)! Hurry!'
"Eeeeeeeeeeh!" -And there she goes again...
Wth....
Virgin?
I don't fuck in public !!
holy fuck the internalized misogyny is strong in this one...
utter nonsense :) as if every woman on the planet would behave like these squeekers. they don't. don't be so ignorant. travelling abroad getting to know other cultures might help you differ.