Hi from Toronto! I was the dude “drooling” over your MB&F. I ended up buying a boutique Journe so I had to stay disciplined. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Thank you for being such a team player with your ecosystem. And thank you for always being straight up. Say hi to Ana for me I love her style of low pressure sales. Very chill. I want to give you guys business as a real way to thank you for your knowledge sharing. But in the meantime this is a small token to show my appreciation and respect. Btw I run Canada’s largest seed stage venture fund as I mentioned. So I love the innovation angle of your world. The conversion of mechanical energy to information. Love that it is such a contrast to the AI and apps and quantum stuff I do. Ps I hear FPJ just discontinued the linesport chrono. Pierre helped me out with a boutique edition while in Miami. This does not get published does it? It’s a private message so if it does then can you remove it after you read? He golfed with Michael Jordan on the Friday. Zuck and him and others are all getting in now it seems. Pierre is one helluva cool dude 🎉
FPJ alternative: Armin Strom. Vertically integrated, small production indie brand. Just like Journe, they put inventive mechanics into their watches: equal force devices , resonance etc. They have their own aesthetic: highly technical open architecture that’s very Swiss German. Everything part is hand finished. They are not cheap, but still more economical than Journe, not to mention the waits are not infinite.
And amazing cheap alternative for the FP Journe is the Martin Design Watches Regulator. I love that design. And the price is unmatched for a regulator watch
I think Moser became a partial Journe substitute as ADs who ended up with empty case space when Journe went boutique, turned to Moser as a solid low volume output independent brand (with attitude) to fill those empty cases.
Santos alternative that’s in line with the Casio is the full metal G Shock squares. I own a Santos and did own the full gold G Shock, the indentation on the bracelet of the G Shock remind me of the screws on the Santos bracelet.
Wow! Amazing subject. I really do think F.P. Journe makes some of the most beautiful watches out there. This is no exception. I fell in love with them after you acquired the 5 piece set. Perfection! Unfortunately, they will continue to be out of my price range. Im safe up to the 40K make without my guilt/common sense taking over
Mido Multifort or an Independent brand called Trafford with their Crossroads (when in stock) is a great cheap alternative to the Nautilus. $650-1k for either brand.
I think Franck Muller is also a great alternative to Richard Mille, and the Rado True Square to the Cartier Santos. As for F.P. Journe, the Breget Tradition comes to mind.
I get why people love the artistry of watch making. But why ignore the elephants in the room - quartz and smart watches. Why aren’t more luxury brands incorporating the latest technology?
I don’t like your Casio alternative for the Cartier Santos. I would say that the Baume Mercier Hampton automatic is a better and less expensive alternative.
Daytona is overpriced substitute for Zenith El Primero Chronomaster Sport. Zenith is widely recognized for having superior movement quality, particularly due to their iconic "El Primero" chronograph movement which is renowned for its high precision and high-frequency balance wheel, allowing for exceptional accuracy in timekeeping, especially when measuring short intervals; making Zenith a leader in chronograph technology.
Hi from Toronto! I was the dude “drooling” over your MB&F. I ended up buying a boutique Journe so I had to stay disciplined. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Thank you for being such a team player with your ecosystem. And thank you for always being straight up. Say hi to Ana for me I love her style of low pressure sales. Very chill. I want to give you guys business as a real way to thank you for your knowledge sharing. But in the meantime this is a small token to show my appreciation and respect. Btw I run Canada’s largest seed stage venture fund as I mentioned. So I love the innovation angle of your world. The conversion of mechanical energy to information. Love that it is such a contrast to the AI and apps and quantum stuff I do. Ps I hear FPJ just discontinued the linesport chrono. Pierre helped me out with a boutique edition while in Miami. This does not get published does it? It’s a private message so if it does then can you remove it after you read? He golfed with Michael Jordan on the Friday. Zuck and him and others are all getting in now it seems. Pierre is one helluva cool dude 🎉
2:29 Tissot PRX (500$) as AP alternative
Christopher ward twelve
Alternative to a daytona is a speedy. Alternative to a sub is a seamaster
Tudor same quality as Rolex? 😂 omega for sure, arguably better.
Both too thick to do the dressier tasks a Sub and certainly a Daytona can do.
@@fontyyy all models mentioned are sports models, not dress watches.
@@fontyyy also try getting a Daytona or a sub at retail 😂
No content for a while bro - I began to think you’d gone under. Glad your back 🎉
Maen Manhattan 37 as a Santos (or Nautilus in a pinch) alternative
FPJ alternative: Armin Strom. Vertically integrated, small production indie brand. Just like Journe, they put inventive mechanics into their watches: equal force devices , resonance etc. They have their own aesthetic: highly technical open architecture that’s very Swiss German. Everything part is hand finished. They are not cheap, but still more economical than Journe, not to mention the waits are not infinite.
And amazing cheap alternative for the FP Journe is the Martin Design Watches Regulator. I love that design. And the price is unmatched for a regulator watch
I think Moser became a partial Journe substitute as ADs who ended up with empty case space when Journe went boutique, turned to Moser as a solid low volume output independent brand (with attitude) to fill those empty cases.
Longines
Master Collection has to be mentioned as the alternative for the 5970
Day-Date, Royal oak, VC 222, Lange Datograph and Patek Ellipse are the most perfect watches out there
Santos alternative that’s in line with the Casio is the full metal G Shock squares. I own a Santos and did own the full gold G Shock, the indentation on the bracelet of the G Shock remind me of the screws on the Santos bracelet.
Awesome suggestions and an excellent video. Now please if you may: some cheaper alternatives to THOSE alternatives.. Bidenomics hit me hard! 😅
Maen Manhattan - Nautilus;
Christopher Ward Twelve - AP
Frederick Constant - Patek
MB& F- Richard Mille
Omega moonwatch - Daytona
… Good suggestions 👍👍🔥🔥
Wow! Amazing subject. I really do think F.P. Journe makes some of the most beautiful watches out there. This is no exception. I fell in love with them after you acquired the 5 piece set. Perfection!
Unfortunately, they will continue to be out of my price range. Im safe up to the 40K make without my guilt/common sense taking over
A carrier santos alternative would be Benjamin James scarifour
I considering between tudor bb and omega Seamaster, which is better. Price is similar in my country
Sea master all day long.
I just happen to be wearing one of those Casios today, but.....nothing like the Santos.
Do you guys have Richard Mille 72-01 titanium? Brand new one with a fair price?
You forgot to mention the price of the GOD TIER CASIO. Love the channel.
This was helpful
I have tudor royal 41mm and not gonna lie quality its in place im super happy with this watch
usd20500 for 116500 black?
start making more vlogs It is the only thing that's entertaining on this channel, just look at the views on vlogs to other videos it doesn't compare.
Cry harder
Putting RM and Hublot in the same sentence was spot on lol.
FPJ alternative - what do you think of Jacques Droz??
How about Frank Muller for RM? I know you don't particularly like them but I think they are the closest to RM. GREAT video. Please keep'em coming
Good stuff, thanks!
What happened to grey market episodes?
loved your superb pics and sharp articulation..thanks for this one
Panerai gets no respect. They have one of the most iconic and recognizable watch case.
Alternative to Patek 5970 could be a nice piece of LOUIS ERARD VALJOUX 88 18K Moonphase Chronograph Calendar
Mido Multifort or an Independent brand called Trafford with their Crossroads (when in stock) is a great cheap alternative to the Nautilus. $650-1k for either brand.
La cabra 🐐 again finally we waited for so long
I think the Norqain wild one skeleton is the best RM alternative and for only 5k
I think Franck Muller is also a great alternative to Richard Mille, and the Rado True Square to the Cartier Santos. As for F.P. Journe, the Breget Tradition comes to mind.
How about a Chronswiss as an alternative to FPJ?
Iconic is marketing
Where is Saxonia thin? This is definitely masterpiece with perfection and simplicity
Benjamin James a Cartier Santos alternative
Bring back Grey Market. Literally, the reason I subscribed. This current approach is going to lose you subscribers.
Could you please suggest some cheaper alternatives to your cheaper alternatives? 🤑
Yes the JLC Master Control Crono- Calendar or the Breitling crono- triple calendar are better alternatives for the 5970
I love my 42mm Steinhart HULK.
Krayon anywhere or everywhere is a watch I want as an independent company.
It is funny how some enthusiasts are very disconnected from the reality.
I get why people love the artistry of watch making. But why ignore the elephants in the room - quartz and smart watches. Why aren’t more luxury brands incorporating the latest technology?
Modern version of santos = Hermes H08. Doesn’t scratch
Maybe for:
Cartier Santos : Longines Mini Dolcevita
Patek 5970 : Bretling Premier B25 Datarota 42
Arnold and son and JLC are two that come to mind that make a nice “affordable” tourbillon compared to FP Journe.
Sugess tourbillon if "affordable " is where you are going and the jlc is superb 👏
What happen to the vlogs ?
I would say the Tissot prx Chronograph.
Why don’t you make a video about how crappy the market really is nowadays
The secondary gray watch market is dead floating face down in a backyard pool, floating face up, and smelly
I don’t like your Casio alternative for the Cartier Santos. I would say that the Baume Mercier Hampton automatic is a better and less expensive alternative.
00:08 where is VC 222
IWC genta looks more like a nautilus
Ingenieur is a good shout , also the Maen Manhattan is a good one as well
Daytona is overpriced substitute for Zenith El Primero Chronomaster Sport. Zenith is widely recognized for having superior movement quality, particularly due to their iconic "El Primero" chronograph movement which is renowned for its high precision and high-frequency balance wheel, allowing for exceptional accuracy in timekeeping, especially when measuring short intervals; making Zenith a leader in chronograph technology.
I think MAEN MANHATTAN as an alternative to Cartier Santos IMO
The only alternative to Cartier Santos that makes sense is a Cartier Tank
It's not a complete list without the Omega Speedmaster
Rather get a cheaper brand with cool original designs than those that mimic their more expensive counterparts. Defeats the purpose.
As we see some of the more expensive ones are the copies
Why cant i call you from europe
Casio! Fuck yeah!
I like these Teddy Baldassarre style videos, keep em coming.
Santos -> Hermès H08
DAYTONA PAUL NEWMAN GOLD 126508 💪🏻👈🏻
Gerald Charles as alternative
Alternative to Cartier Santos is Cubitus? lol
My Tudor prince oyster-date chronograph graph from 97 is aging like wine. 79260 ref ghost dial
Alternative to a journe is a Casio calculator
Takeaway: There’s no good alternative to a Cartier Santos. 😉
Zenith cronos are like 10 not 6 grand
If you would have made 10 instead of 9.
Lange 1 - Glashütte Panoreserve
🎯
Hublot… really ? 😂
FPJ alternative : H. Moser & Cie, A. Lange & Söhne, Parmigiani Fleurier…
where tf is grey market???
If you dont know u not a watch person
A corolla makes you more money than a royal oak 😂😂😂 for 30,000$
echo neutra rivanera
beaubleu seconde française
If I get 5k likes, I will get the cheapest rolex ❤❤❤
Obviously not an Omega fan… no speedmaster really… 🙄
Nautilus is ugly I don’t get the hype
Rm looks like a toy
Casio is junk