Aren't people missing the point of the song..? People are taking the lyrics so literally lol. The song isn't so much about the Zeze character as it is about IU herself, and the image she's been portraying since she started as an artist. Mostly that "aegyo" persona people seem to care so much for with k-pop. Because if someone is seen as cute, there's no way they're anything but that right!?.. Actually the whole album is pretty much her way of speaking of what she has been through in her career as an artist and in the public eye. It's about the public persona she has, the one she portrays, mixed with what people make of her; and about her own individual self, as she is and not as she's said to be. Everyone of us is two people at the same time, the person we are, our thoughts, emotions and actions; and the person others think we are by analizing us and making their own assumptions... And that's what she probably liked about the character Zezé, the way he's seen as either good or bad depending on who's watching. Much like how people online comment about her being a fox or whatever, as if people are all one dimensional and have only one way to go about life all the time with the same face. Honestly I'm not even a fan of her, but I actually liked this last album. She's not even that subtle with her work, but I guess if you aren't interested enough to care you'll only see what you want to see, or what someone else tells you to... Good luck IU :)
I really like your explanation! Her album makes so much more sense now. It's mature but also dark and fascinating. It highlights her life as a singer for sure. She's been through so much and she's expressing it. It's too bad people are lashing out on her when I'm sure this wasn't even her intention.
+High On Life Thank you, that's exaclty how I interpreted it since this album was out. It is so clear to me what she means, and I'm not even her fan too. I just casually listened to this album and liked it much more than her previous ones, so I tried to understand her lyrics and all. People like to hate so much they don't even stop to actually pay attention to what they're hating on.
i find it so amazing that there are people trying to interpret the lyrics in different ways and not just jump the bandwagon of what everyone else is saying... i found this explanation online and i think this is also what she's trying to express through her album (beware this is a long comment, but i assure you, the idea is pretty intriguing) : try to understand that artists don’t always make art simply to cater to the audience. music is also a means for an artist to express themselves. it’s not all about the consumer. this was iu’s first album where she played a large part in production. it’s her first big chance to express herself. the ep is about her trying to find a balance between being an adult and being a child, and between herself and the media’s image of herself. people who have kept up with iu know how things have been for her. she debuted at 15 and gained popularity at age 16. as is generally the case with mainstream media, she was forced into a weird position of being seen as an innocent baby girl and also being seen sexually and appealing to an older male audience. in the past few years, her love life has been under constant speculation by the media, as the mainstream gaze has continued to force her back into the young girl character. she’s gained a lot of antis in the light of her relationship becoming public. as a little girl she was sexualised, but her mature side is infantilized. it’s been a constant dichotomy between these gross tropes for her. “twenty-three” is about her own difficulties being in that stage between real adulthood and childhood; and those difficulties are fortified by the media treating her like a doll. the album pictures seemed to reflect some common features of the “lolita” trope. this is not her glorifying childhood sexual abuse, it’s her showing us the image that’s already been made for her. she plays with the boundaries of maturity and innocence because it’s a boundary she’s forced to confront, and she wants to express that in her album. iu never wanted to be seen as an oversexualised little girl. no one wants that. but now, she has chosen to present herself like that; not as a sexual object, but as insight into this facet the media has created of her. ultimately, the idea is that iu should not fit into that trope-it’s concept, now, an album concept. it’s an exaggerated view of herself. when the media unironically presents her as a lolita, everyone takes it into stride, but when she presents it herself as a means of speculation, everyone’s ready to torch her. it’s just not as two-dimensional as you want it to be.
thesupperkittylover Well, yeah, that's a more generic view, it's about her whole album. I agree with that. I also find people that criticise her lolita concept hypocritical. The industry is permeated with lolita concepts. What do people think the innocent school girl concept is about? Why do so many grown men like young girl groups wearing school uniforms and acting cute? It seems innocent, but it has some sexual undertones, they're subtle, but not even that much if you think about it. Do those men like those kind of groups only because of the music? Obviously not. IU only brought up the issue and made it visible, and it made people uncomfortable, but really, who criticises her for it is a hypocrite.
SaitouIzumi yes i agree, there a lolita concepts EVERYWHERE in kpop but that one time where IU addresses the problem and call out on it, people backlash and call her a pedophile. wheres the common sense in that? school uniforms, uncle fans, songs about 'oppa'... how can they support concept like these but by hypocrites...
actually the first time I heard the song, I thought it was interesting. I never thought that it was this addicting, and I keep on repeating this song. And I think IU is clever enough to create this song.
제제를 처음 들었을 때 '와 가사 정말 잘 썼다! 역시 징짱💕' 이러고 혼자 좋아하면서 계속 제제만 들었는데 며칠 후 언론 반응보고 진짜 충격 먹었었던.. 너무도 말도 안되게 심하게 몰아가서 제제가 약간 아픈손가락이었는데 이제는 안아파해도 될 것 같네요ㅠㅠ 이제라도 알아주셔서 감사합니다ㅠ
Zeze is my favorite song by IU. I love her song composing way, reminding me of my days when I was at this age (23). I used to write a diary and always told my story by splitting myself into two entities: one was me under the others' perspective and one was me under my own view. It somehow matches what I found she wanted to tell in the song: both the tree and Zeze were IU. The latter was IU under mundane eyes (innocent, clever, but also dirty with something hidden inside), the former was IU herself, never cared what others think of her, wanted to pacify herself, and got herself (Zeze) rid of from the others, recognizing self-esteem (kiss the leaves, take only flowers - the most beautiful thing, don't hurt the tree - herself). In Confusious countries, we have a proverb ''Purity doesn't need others to purify itself.'' and I esteem her by always keeping silent from all of those made-up stories and scandals around since then and have left behind all those stupid stuff. What a strong girl! Just a few more words after reading other comments. I myself find that IU doesn't want her to be considered as anything relating to sexuality. I listen to almost all of her songs and watch soooo many of her MVs as well as FMVs or fancams from her concert. She can appear in a sexy manner if she wants, as in a gangnam style dancing video I've watched. But it rarely happens, I even can say that it only happened once or twice in her early career, when she was young and wanted to try everything.
I admire her because some singers would just go with the netizens and would apologize and would take the song off their album but she apologize and gave her piece about the song and is still singing this song
[가사] ❤️노래 개좋음ㅜㅜ맨날 들으러 옴⭐️ 흥미로운 듯, 씩 올라가는 입꼬리 좀 봐 그 웃음만 봐도 알아 분명히 너는 짓궂어 아아, 이름이 아주 예쁘구나 계속 부르고 싶어 말하지 못하는 나쁜 상상이 사랑스러워 조그만 손가락으로 소리를 만지네 간지러운 그 목소리로 색과 풍경을 노래 부르네 yeah 제제, 어서 나무에 올라와 잎사귀에 입을 맞춰 장난치면 못써 나무를 아프게 하면 못써 못써 제제, 어서 나무에 올라와 여기서 제일 어린잎을 가져가 하나뿐인 꽃을 꺾어가 Climb up me Climb up me 꽃을 피운 듯, 발그레해진 저 두 뺨을 봐 넌 아주 순진해 그러나 분명 교활하지 어린아이처럼 투명한 듯해도 어딘가는 더러워 그 안에 무엇이 살고 있는지, 알 길이 없어 당장에 머리 위엔 햇살을 띄우지만 어렴풋이 보이는 너의 속은 먹구름과 닿아있네 oh 제제, 어서 나무에 올라와 잎사귀에 입을 맞춰 장난치면 못써 나무를 아프게 하면 못써 못써 제제, 어서 나무에 올라와 여기서 제일 어린잎을 가져가 하나뿐인 꽃을 꺾어가 Climb up me Climb up me 한 번 더 닿고 싶어 여기서 매일 너를 기다려 전부 가지러 오렴 다시 부르고 싶어 여기서 매일 너를 기다려 얄밉게 돌아가도 내일 밤에 또 보러 올 거지 제제, 어서 나무에 올라와 잎사귀에 입을 맞춰 장난치면 못써 나무를 아프게 하면 못써 못써 제제, 어서 나무에 올라와 여기서 제일 어린잎을 가져가 하나뿐인 꽃을 꺾어가 Climb up me Climb up me
+XxMaplerzxX there's microphones, the ones that are really high quality but super expensive that reduce outside noise and you can only hear the voice. she's using those I'm sure. even in hee concerts she sounds exactly the same as studio, even better.
0:51 you know what? The background vocalist was 제휘(Je-Hwi, Kim) who composed 밤편지(All through the Night), 이지금(dlwlrma) and 언럭키(Unlucky) of IU albums, also making 디어문 Dear Moon (in OST 나의 아저씨). Travia is that Je-Hwi was only 19 years old (만으로) at the time of this clip. He has been a fan of IU before making debut as composer and arranger.
아이유는 이 앨범에 자신에대해서 솔직하데 담은 노래들울 많이 실었다. 현시대에 몇 안되는 가수,아닌 표현가인 아이유는 대중들의 반응을 보고 어떤 마음이 들었을까. 성인인지 아닌지 헷갈리는 23살의 기분을 표현한 노래들은 온 대중들에게 편견과 좁은 시선으로 받아들여지고 있고 비판과 비난을 감수하며 그래도 나아가는 모습은 23살때와 다르게 좀더 성숙해짐을 느낀다. 이 노래가 싫은가? 그럴땬 아이유를 봐라 벌써 그녀는 앞서 나아간다
[Article] DLWLRMA Magazine - July 2020 Understanding 'ZeZe' and the Orange Tree by EJG IU's song ‘Zeze’ was released on 2015 as part of her ‘Chat-Shire’ album. It was written by IU from the viewpoint of an orange tree from the book "My Sweet Orange Tree" by José Mauro de Vasconcelos. My thoughts and analysis that may contain some spoilers: • Prior to reading the book, I already had an idea that it will tackle sensitive issues like poverty and child abuse. The main character, Zeze, a 5-year-old boy who is mischievous and a little advanced for his age experienced beating from his own family. • Children are sensitive and they would believe whatever people say. In the story, his young mind already absorbed that he's evil and a devil was born in his heart because that's what he's been told many times. Which is why whenever he gets into trouble, he’d say it was the work of the devil inside him. From my own analysis, I can say that he constantly does the naughty pranks because of lack of affection. It’s his only way to get attention. As the story unfolds, the strangers he would meet would eventually see that he is a good and a sweet child after all. • Zeze found comfort through his imagination along with the orange tree in their backyard. He thinks that the tree could speak to him like a real person. This is an interesting part for me because in the book, they really had actual conversations. It became a daily routine for him to talk to the tree telling how his everyday life went on. After much thought, I realized that maybe, Zeze finding a friend in a form of this tree was an escape from the reality of his cruel life. At least, someone listens and understands. • Another character named Manuel became Zeze's good friend. With Manuel, he found the father figure he never had. Manuel became his only family, the only person who made him feel loved. And because he is a child deprived of these things, he became vulnerable by the acts of kindness shown to him by Manuel. The child's soft spot is gradually shown. • There were also moments when Zeze had thoughts of suicide. He had thoughts that he shouldn't have been born. The psychological effects of maltreatment to children could be seen here. • The orange tree, being the imaginary talking companion of Zeze, also plays a significant symbolism in the story - a friend he cannot afford to lose. The tree would have an extremely sad ending. In connection to IU's lyrics, the duality of Zeze's character interests IU a lot. The song became controversial years ago because IU was accused of being a pedophile, sexualizing a young boy in this song. If a person looks through IU's lyrics without reading the whole book, it'll really cause confusion and misunderstanding. To mention some points: "Climb up me" - in the story, Zeze often plays on the orange tree's branches, pretending to ride on a horse. It's actually quite typical for the tree to ask Zeze to climb on itself. "Pick my only flower/take the Flower" - in the story, the tree only had one flower. And the part where it was mentioned was a fairly important and sad scene, not a sensual one. There is nothing sexual here. The cover art for the album shows a young boy with stockings. Zeze used the stockings on one of his childish pranks. There is nothing sexual there too. In defense of IU, we all have different perceptions and interpretations when it comes to arts and music. We never know what's exactly running into the minds of artists. But for me, after reading the book, I know one thing is for sure. IU's song, ‘Zeze’ sends a deep, different kind of message which, unfortunately, some people refused to see and understand.
***** Not all Korean fans think like that, just some knetizens with too much time on their hands and hate. By the way, I'm not a fan of her, I'm Cassiopeia fan (I love TVXQ and JYJ) and a Cloud (Rain fan) and I know all this media manipulation and netizens craziness, to well. I just love the songs and think she has a great live voice.
Like I said, I'm not a fan so I don't know how bad things are, I don't follow Naver or Pan to read about IU. Hope things will go better for her 'coz she is a great young voice. If you are a fan of her and a Korean and have time maybe you should speak with other Korean fans and trying post good things about her and defend her. The more the merrier. Good luck, seems like she needs it. I will never ever get why Kpeople are so adamant with their hate.
Consider how self-referential the whole Chatshire album is (taking back identity, coming of age, empowerment through self-deprecation/reflection), Zeze appears to be an allegorical approach to her feelings and moods at that point in her career. IU has a history of acknowledging social stigmas through her work. Tackling sensitive topics such as yellow journalism/media, discriminatory public personas, SNS haters/bullies, depression, suicide, love, loss, sleeping disorders etc... This whole album revolves around a heightened fantasy world liken to 'It is a mad mad world' in Alice in wonderland. Where Alice is both the victim and the heroine is forced to take on an introspective journey through the looking glass, examining various perspectives/creatures to fulfill personal growth and self-actualization. This reference also appears later in Palette and Bbibbi for example IU is a clever storyteller and artistic jester with her unique sonnets/limericks/metaphors to continue to play around public perceptions. I hope she remains pure-hearted in this approach and never loses that sense of artistic innocence and wonder and bow down to commercial pressures. Luckily years later, I think she never did. Congrats on the upcoming 918 x 12! May you continue to be unique, creative, authentic, bold, and brave! 👍
There are some people who think that she got some huge backlash, LOL NO SHE DIDN'T. Her concerts continued on, even well known celebrities supported and guested on her shows. Her CFs didn't get cancelled, in fact a soju company renewed the contract. She was an MC at SBS gayodaejon and performed the epic diss song 23. She's starring in a drama. She's also holding 7 concerts in China. If you look up the Gallup poll, she's still #1 in idol ranking (even when the 'controversy' broke out). I think she's also the most subscribed artist on melon. CONTINUE TO SLAY IU. This is how you respond to netizens.
hikari yuri to keep it short she had a controversy with this song. The netizens claimed that it is pedophilic. Second was with her twenty three MV claiming that it has a lollita theme.
Despite Zeze's not favorable reception bcoz of its complicated meaning and poetry..i really love the song..As an international fan., when you look at IU's career frm 2008 til 2015, you can easily interpret that Zeze is her.. even though its inspired by a book.. Im just SAD that its her First self produce album as part of her healing process..and she can't promote it properly at that time..To me, All Chatshire album songs are incredible, they are written and compose with a mind of sharing her life struggle to her fans and listerners at that time.. Since we are in a modern era now, hopefully most of us will be openminded and understanding in terms of how artists and idols expresses themselves thru their music..☺️
Those who commented negatively about this song didn't understood it, or even tried to. Furthermore if they just bought her album they would have understood it, it can be seen on Zeze track page, she was on a tree. Geez, the concept was her being somewhat Zeze, in the music industry.
흥미로운 듯, 씩 올라가는 입꼬리 좀 봐 그 웃음만 봐도 알아 분명히 너는 짓궂어 아아, 이름이 아주 예쁘구나 계속 부르고 싶어 말하지 못하는 나쁜 상상이 사랑스러워 조그만 손가락으로 소리를 만지네 간지러운 그 목소리로 색과 풍경을 노래 부르네 yeah 제제, 어서 나무에 올라와 잎사귀에 입을 맞춰 장난치면 못써 나무를 아프게 하면 못써 못써 제제, 어서 나무에 올라와 여기서 제일 어린잎을 가져가 하나뿐인 꽃을 꺾어가 Climb up me Climb up me 꽃을 피운 듯, 발그레해진 저 두 뺨을 봐 넌 아주 순진해 그러나 분명 교활하지 어린아이처럼 투명한 듯해도 어딘가는 더러워 그 안에 무엇이 살고 있는지, 알 길이 없어 당장에 머리 위엔 햇살을 띄우지만 어렴풋이 보이는 너의 속은 먹구름과 닿아있네 oh 제제, 어서 나무에 올라와 잎사귀에 입을 맞춰 장난치면 못써 나무를 아프게 하면 못써 못써 제제, 어서 나무에 올라와 여기서 제일 어린잎을 가져가 하나뿐인 꽃을 꺾어가 Climb up me Climb up me 한 번 더 닿고 싶어 여기서 매일 너를 기다려 전부 가지러 오렴 다시 부르고 싶어 여기서 매일 너를 기다려 얄밉게 돌아가도 내일 밤에 또 보러 올 거지 제제, 어서 나무에 올라와 잎사귀에 입을 맞춰 장난치면 못써 나무를 아프게 하면 못써 못써 제제, 어서 나무에 올라와 여기서 제일 어린잎을 가져가 하나뿐인 꽃을 꺾어가 Climb up me Climb up me
이 노래 내 최애곡ㅠㅠ 제제를 모순적으로 표현한 아이유의 작사 실력에 진짜 천재라 느꼈어요!! 책을 읽지도 않고 책 내용도 모르면서 야하다.. 비난하고 욕했던 사람들이 진짜 무지한거임! 책 읽고 이 노래를 들으면 느끼는 게 다를거에요 진짜 아이유는 대단한 뮤지션이에요ㅠㅠ
다 책에 나오는 표현이고, 곡 설명 자체가 밍기뉴와 제제의 관계가 남녀 사이에서 투닥대는 모습 같아서 그 모습을 가사로 쓴 거임. 그리고 제제가 섹시하다고 한 것도, 섹시하다고 하기 전에 “제제에게 하는 말은 아니다”라고 했는데 이 말이 어느 언론에도 없었음. 그냥 자기 듣고싶은 대로 믿고싶은 대로 믿는 사람들 때문에 커진 진짜 단순 루머였음
그 아이유가 제제 노래 나의라임오렌지나무 중 한 장면읆 모티브해서 쓴 곡이에용 여러사람들이 제제에게 너는 악마야 아니 너는 천사야 아니 너는 장난끼가 심해 등 여러 모순점이 되는 말들을 한다 그 말을 들은 제제는 본인 스스로를 악마라고 생각한다 이 장면을 보고 가사를 쓰게 되었다고 했어요 그래서 가사에 여러사람들이 제제에게 했던 나쁜 말들이 나오죠
The song that make IU's staff cried when she include it in the song list for her 10th year debut anniversary concerts, coz it reminds them to the difficult time that IU face due to misinterpretation of the song by knezt. She wrote this song actually based on a children story in Brazil about the boy and the orange tree. Public mistook it as song abt being lolita n encouraging pedophile..coz in the lyrics there's a line saying 'come climb me'. Sometimes people just read too much into the song - maybe bcoz IU at 22/23 at the time already so accomplished and wrote so many wonderful songs.. Mature beyond her age but with young girl look.. Not easy being talented young and beautiful like IU.. There will always some who envious and jealous of her accomplishment, even now after more than 10 yrs in the industry..
From the lyrics, I don't get why people hate her. Well, everyone have their own opinion. I still love IU and her music. She's really talented, unique and so cute
요새 아이유 노래 빠져 있어서 어쩌다 여까지 왔는데 이때 앨범이 스물셋이라면 난 그때 스물셋 가사 되게 취저였음 논란 부분 말고 가사가 정말 한 인간의 모순적인 모습 하지만 그게 다 본인이라는 것을 보여주는 게 너무 좋았고 와닿았어서. 그리고 이 영상 노래의 영감이 된 소설은 안 봐서 모르겠지만 결국 이것도 스물셋과 비슷한 것 같음 뭔가 대강 댓 읽어보면 순수하면서도 영악한 제제란 아이의 악동스런 모습을 표현한 것 같은데... 뭐지 뭔가 또 할 말이 있었던 것 같은데 쓰면서 잊었네 아무튼 담에 함 읽어봐야지 원작도
Somehow IU imaginary mind are so out there, she real but it not what people want, she just do what she thinks in her mind, i dont care what people say, i still really respect IU...
다른 탑 연예인들도 유튜브 홍보를 보기 힘든데, 스토커 찐따같은 아이유애나가 홍보하는 아이유 영상이라서 더 짜증나네요- 좋아하지 않는 여가수이며, 음원표절의혹 및 라이브 👎 아이유의 음반, 음원, 콘서트 권유했으며 심지어 협박암시하는 글을 SNS를 통해 해악고지한 바 종로경찰서에 신고했어요!! 아티스트 혹은 소속사, 누가 사주했는지 알 수 없지만 팬심으로 아이유애나가 단독으로 행하지는 않았을 거라 생각합니다. 매너없는 집단 SNS테러를 하며, 작성했던 게시글과 댓글을 삭제하는 교묘한 수법을 사용하여 피해자 코스프레하는 미친광이 집단처럼 보이네요. 법을 교묘하게 악행하고 고소남발하는 아티스트 아이유는 아이유애나가 염려하는 자살을 하더라도 박수치며 환호할테니 하루속히 자살했으면 합니다.!! (비판비평을 피하고 싶어 생명을 담보로 협박하는 미친년) 아이유애나 깜가즈아!!
Let's not talk about the bad influence or not. I love this special clip version of Zeze. This version has different instruments compare to album version, it sounds smoother and not as noisy as the album version, and the guy as back-vocal make the whole song sounds even better DAEBAK~
Well I've been reading lots of comments . Most people don't think that IU was being inappropriate (including me ) but people have been making valid points about the Korean format and understanding the language that IU used. Even so, it is still all based on speculation. Even Koreans can't know exactly what IUs point is since the language that is used is largely metaphorical leaving this song without a doubt open to interpretation. There is and never will be concrete evidence for either this song being inappropriate or it being a metaphor for her experience in the entertainment industry.
내 입덕 곡 이 전까지는 수록곡까지 찾아들을 정도로 좋아하던 가수는 아니었는데 한참 논란이 뜰 당시에 이 노래를 찾아 들었음 근데 논란이고 뭐고 노래가 너무 충격적이었음 이 당시에 기계음으로 떡칠한 가수들의 노래만 들었었는데 뭐랄까 목소리만 들리는 그 청량함이 있다고 해야 하나 노래에서 너무 깨끗한 목소리만 들려서 충격이었고 다른 수록곡도 모두 들어본 결과 아이유라는 가수의 팬이 되어버렸음 아마 나같은 애들 많을 거다.. 논란때문에 노래 찾아 듣고 결국 팬 되버리고.. 그래서 사람들 악플 싸지를때 열심히 쉴드치고 다녔었는데 중2라는 어린 나이 때 나도 열심히 욕 먹고 다녔지..
![[Special Clip] IU(아이유) _ The shower(푸르던) [ENG SUB]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/TRTquokWSCw/mqdefault.jpg)
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![[IU TV] I caught the flu that day..😷 ㅣ 'Love wins all' MV BTS](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/bSxoDXrk2X4/mqdefault.jpg)
![[Special Clip] IU(아이유)_Sleepless rainy night(잠 못 드는 밤 비는 내리고)](/img/1.gif)
정말 가사를...당신은 정말 천재적이군요 대중가요을 문학으로 어쩜 이렇게 매력적인 독후감을 쓸 수 있나요
이때 아이유 망했다며 온갖 비난 쏟아내고 헐뜯어서 팬으로서 참 힘들었는데.. 그래서 챗셔가 유독 더 애틋한 느낌 ㅠ 보란듯이 더 당당하게 활동해서 이제는 팬마저도 그런 비난은 우스운 위치에 올라선게 너무 자랑스럽다 아이유 파이팅!!
Aren't people missing the point of the song..? People are taking the lyrics so literally lol. The song isn't so much about the Zeze character as it is about IU herself, and the image she's been portraying since she started as an artist. Mostly that "aegyo" persona people seem to care so much for with k-pop. Because if someone is seen as cute, there's no way they're anything but that right!?..
Actually the whole album is pretty much her way of speaking of what she has been through in her career as an artist and in the public eye. It's about the public persona she has, the one she portrays, mixed with what people make of her; and about her own individual self, as she is and not as she's said to be. Everyone of us is two people at the same time, the person we are, our thoughts, emotions and actions; and the person others think we are by analizing us and making their own assumptions... And that's what she probably liked about the character Zezé, the way he's seen as either good or bad depending on who's watching. Much like how people online comment about her being a fox or whatever, as if people are all one dimensional and have only one way to go about life all the time with the same face.
Honestly I'm not even a fan of her, but I actually liked this last album. She's not even that subtle with her work, but I guess if you aren't interested enough to care you'll only see what you want to see, or what someone else tells you to...
Good luck IU :)
I really like your explanation! Her album makes so much more sense now. It's mature but also dark and fascinating. It highlights her life as a singer for sure. She's been through so much and she's expressing it. It's too bad people are lashing out on her when I'm sure this wasn't even her intention.
+High On Life Thank you, that's exaclty how I interpreted it since this album was out. It is so clear to me what she means, and I'm not even her fan too. I just casually listened to this album and liked it much more than her previous ones, so I tried to understand her lyrics and all. People like to hate so much they don't even stop to actually pay attention to what they're hating on.
i find it so amazing that there are people trying to interpret the lyrics in different ways and not just jump the bandwagon of what everyone else is saying... i found this explanation online and i think this is also what she's trying to express through her album
(beware this is a long comment, but i assure you, the idea is pretty intriguing) : try to understand that artists don’t always make art simply to cater to the audience. music is also a means for an artist to express themselves. it’s not all about the consumer.
this was iu’s first album where she played a large part in production. it’s her first big chance to express herself. the ep is about her trying to find a balance between being an adult and being a child, and between herself and the media’s image of herself.
people who have kept up with iu know how things have been for her. she debuted at 15 and gained popularity at age 16. as is generally the case with mainstream media, she was forced into a weird position of being seen as an innocent baby girl and also being seen sexually and appealing to an older male audience. in the past few years, her love life has been under constant speculation by the media, as the mainstream gaze has continued to force her back into the young girl character. she’s gained a lot of antis in the light of her relationship becoming public. as a little girl she was sexualised, but her mature side is infantilized. it’s been a constant dichotomy between these gross tropes for her.
“twenty-three” is about her own difficulties being in that stage between real adulthood and childhood; and those difficulties are fortified by the media treating her like a doll. the album pictures seemed to reflect some common features of the “lolita” trope. this is not her glorifying childhood sexual abuse, it’s her showing us the image that’s already been made for her. she plays with the boundaries of maturity and innocence because it’s a boundary she’s forced to confront, and she wants to express that in her album.
iu never wanted to be seen as an oversexualised little girl. no one wants that. but now, she has chosen to present herself like that; not as a sexual object, but as insight into this facet the media has created of her. ultimately, the idea is that iu should not fit into that trope-it’s concept, now, an album concept. it’s an exaggerated view of herself. when the media unironically presents her as a lolita, everyone takes it into stride, but when she presents it herself as a means of speculation, everyone’s ready to torch her. it’s just not as two-dimensional as you want it to be.
thesupperkittylover
Well, yeah, that's a more generic view, it's about her whole album. I agree with that. I also find people that criticise her lolita concept hypocritical. The industry is permeated with lolita concepts. What do people think the innocent school girl concept is about? Why do so many grown men like young girl groups wearing school uniforms and acting cute? It seems innocent, but it has some sexual undertones, they're subtle, but not even that much if you think about it. Do those men like those kind of groups only because of the music? Obviously not. IU only brought up the issue and made it visible, and it made people uncomfortable, but really, who criticises her for it is a hypocrite.
SaitouIzumi yes i agree, there a lolita concepts EVERYWHERE in kpop but that one time where IU addresses the problem and call out on it, people backlash and call her a pedophile. wheres the common sense in that? school uniforms, uncle fans, songs about 'oppa'... how can they support concept like these but by hypocrites...
챗셔앨범이 벌써 8년전이라니~ 아이유 왜 안늙어 ㅋ 제제 라이브는 역시 언제들어도 굿~
목소리가 어떻게 저러냐.. 빨려들어간다 작사작곡까지잘해 감각도 뛰어나 예쁜데 똑부러지기까지 진짜 대박이네
솔직히 이 앨범에서 이 노래 제일 좋아해 너무 예뻐
actually the first time I heard the song, I thought it was interesting. I never thought that it was this addicting, and I keep on repeating this song. And I think IU is clever enough to create this song.
I agree w/ u
'아이유 이제 망했네' 란 말도 서스럼없이 했던 시기
23살의 여가수 한명을 묻어버리기로 작정한듯한 그 악플들은 진짜 끔찍했다.
이 시기를 버텨주고 지금까지 노래 해주는 아이유가 너무 대단하다.
그릇이 얼마나 큰 사람인지 가늠도 안된다.
아이유좋아하나요?
내가보기엔노래좋은데
도대체 무슨 일이 있던거에요 !.??
@@tnlqwldksgsp 감사해요..이렇게 정성을 담아서 얘기해주실 줄은...몰랐어요
이유있는 질타였어요.. 외국인들도 성적대상화라고 입모아말했구요
15년도 아이유 너무 사랑함 나의 최애 앨범 챗셔💜
제제를 처음 들었을 때 '와 가사 정말 잘 썼다! 역시 징짱💕' 이러고 혼자 좋아하면서 계속 제제만 들었는데 며칠 후 언론 반응보고 진짜 충격 먹었었던..
너무도 말도 안되게 심하게 몰아가서 제제가 약간 아픈손가락이었는데 이제는 안아파해도 될 것 같네요ㅠㅠ
이제라도 알아주셔서 감사합니다ㅠ
와 이노래 예전에 앨범 발매할때 한번듣고 지금 다시들었는데 너무좋네요 이번 팔레트도 그렇고 아이유노래는 점점 개성넘쳐지는거같아요
이제야 고백하지만 전 저 앨범 노래에 반해서 그때서야 아이유님 팬 됐습니다. 스물셋도 좋았지만 제제란 노래에 더 많이 반해서 팬이 되버린 기억이 있어요..여전히 즐겨 듣고있습니다!💜
저도에여...갠적으로 체셔앨범의 기묘하면서도 경쾌한 분위기에 확 끌려서 팬이 된것 같아요
저도요...원래 아이유 관심없던편이었는데 이노래랑 스물셋이 너무너무 취향이었어요 ...
저도요 째지하고 넘나취향임
Zeze is my favorite song by IU. I love her song composing way, reminding me of my days when I was at this age (23). I used to write a diary and always told my story by splitting myself into two entities: one was me under the others' perspective and one was me under my own view. It somehow matches what I found she wanted to tell in the song: both the tree and Zeze were IU. The latter was IU under mundane eyes (innocent, clever, but also dirty with something hidden inside), the former was IU herself, never cared what others think of her, wanted to pacify herself, and got herself (Zeze) rid of from the others, recognizing self-esteem (kiss the leaves, take only flowers - the most beautiful thing, don't hurt the tree - herself).
In Confusious countries, we have a proverb ''Purity doesn't need others to purify itself.'' and I esteem her by always keeping silent from all of those made-up stories and scandals around since then and have left behind all those stupid stuff. What a strong girl!
Just a few more words after reading other comments. I myself find that IU doesn't want her to be considered as anything relating to sexuality. I listen to almost all of her songs and watch soooo many of her MVs as well as FMVs or fancams from her concert. She can appear in a sexy manner if she wants, as in a gangnam style dancing video I've watched. But it rarely happens, I even can say that it only happened once or twice in her early career, when she was young and wanted to try everything.
International fans will support IU forever!
Yes we will! at least I hope we are more open minded
+sunny lokching yes we should, despite all the controversy even tho it isn't that big deal, people are so overacting
Right! Here China hands up!
yay
forever is a strong word
이런 오묘하고 궁금하게 하는 가사 너무 좋음
I admire her because some singers would just go with the netizens and would apologize and would take the song off their album but she apologize and gave her piece about the song and is still singing this song
ikr that's why i love her so much
그때 물타기 논란들에 두려워서 좋아한다고 제대로 말못하고 주변인들이 아이유 까내리기 바쁠때 한마디 못했던게 후회됐던거같다 그만큼 애정이 깊은 곡 이때도 지금도 사랑한다고 말해주고싶다
She is the best singer and also very beautiful and extraordinarily sweet
아이유 목소리도 좋은데 코러스로 부르는 남자분 목소리도 꿀..
[가사] ❤️노래 개좋음ㅜㅜ맨날 들으러 옴⭐️
흥미로운 듯,
씩 올라가는 입꼬리 좀 봐
그 웃음만 봐도 알아 분명히 너는 짓궂어
아아, 이름이 아주 예쁘구나 계속 부르고 싶어
말하지 못하는 나쁜 상상이 사랑스러워
조그만 손가락으로 소리를 만지네
간지러운 그 목소리로 색과 풍경을 노래 부르네 yeah
제제, 어서 나무에 올라와
잎사귀에 입을 맞춰
장난치면 못써
나무를 아프게 하면 못써 못써
제제, 어서 나무에 올라와
여기서 제일 어린잎을 가져가
하나뿐인 꽃을 꺾어가
Climb up me
Climb up me
꽃을 피운 듯,
발그레해진 저 두 뺨을 봐
넌 아주 순진해 그러나 분명 교활하지
어린아이처럼 투명한 듯해도 어딘가는 더러워
그 안에 무엇이 살고 있는지,
알 길이 없어
당장에 머리 위엔 햇살을 띄우지만
어렴풋이 보이는 너의 속은 먹구름과 닿아있네 oh
제제, 어서 나무에 올라와
잎사귀에 입을 맞춰
장난치면 못써
나무를 아프게 하면 못써 못써
제제, 어서 나무에 올라와
여기서 제일 어린잎을 가져가
하나뿐인 꽃을 꺾어가
Climb up me
Climb up me
한 번 더 닿고 싶어
여기서 매일 너를 기다려
전부 가지러 오렴
다시 부르고 싶어
여기서 매일 너를 기다려
얄밉게 돌아가도 내일 밤에 또 보러 올 거지
제제, 어서 나무에 올라와
잎사귀에 입을 맞춰
장난치면 못써
나무를 아프게 하면 못써 못써
제제, 어서 나무에 올라와
여기서 제일 어린잎을 가져가
하나뿐인 꽃을 꺾어가
Climb up me
Climb up me
이 노래는 정말 명곡임. 챗셔 앨범 전체에서 가장 좋은 곡이면서, 가사 또한 좋음. 이번 팔레트 앨범에서 잼잼이 가장 좋다고 생각하는데, 그 보다 나음
정말 대단하다 역경과고난 다 이겨내고 또한번 한국가요계의 정점에 올라섰네..
연기까지 대박 터지고...
10주년 축하하고 30주년 디너쇼까지 볼수있기를....그때까지 내가 살아있다면.ㅠㅠㅠ...아 슬프네...30주년이면 내가 80대네....
She's so freaking beautiful. Her voice is divine.
her voice sounds exactly like the studio ver. wtf
It is possible that they auto-tuned it.
+Yuki Vin I mean though, since they're performing outside, why can't I hear any wind or other noise?
+XxMaplerzxX there's microphones, the ones that are really high quality but super expensive that reduce outside noise and you can only hear the voice. she's using those I'm sure. even in hee concerts she sounds exactly the same as studio, even better.
*****
I did say that it's possible, I'm not accusing her.
I think there are just some tweaks made but her real voice still shines, as usual
솔직히 아이유처럼 다양한 노래 장르 소화하고 연기까지 잘하는 연예인은 없는 듯.... 정말 재능 많은 사람임
캐럿캐럿 전 순신이 역할 드라마 재미있게 봤는데 드림하이랑ㅎㅎ
연기 잘하는 편임 타 아이돌에 비하면
+달의연인도
@@yeonpong2 ㄹㅇ 띵작이죠 구그달에 묻혔지만요ㅠㅠ
@@로이드-t7o 진짜 인정이에요 ㅠㅠ 띵작인데 아쉽... 이번 아는형님에 이준기랑 아이유 나온대서 기대된다구요뮤ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
0:51 you know what? The background vocalist was 제휘(Je-Hwi, Kim) who composed 밤편지(All through the Night), 이지금(dlwlrma) and 언럭키(Unlucky) of IU albums, also making 디어문 Dear Moon (in OST 나의 아저씨). Travia is that Je-Hwi was only 19 years old (만으로) at the time of this clip. He has been a fan of IU before making debut as composer and arranger.
Is this like live? Daaaaamn. It doesn't sound live. She did so well that it can be released as a studio version.
IU is truly amazing
아 진짜 노래 너무 좋다 ㅜㅜ 가사가 어떻든 걍 노래 자체가 너무 좋다 ㅜㅜ 이 노래 나왔을 당시에도 너무 좋아했고 오랜만에 들으니까 더 좋은듯..ㅜㅜ
음원보다 이 라이브 버전이 더좋음 다운받아서 듣고있어여
아이유는 이 앨범에 자신에대해서 솔직하데 담은 노래들울 많이 실었다. 현시대에 몇 안되는 가수,아닌 표현가인 아이유는 대중들의 반응을 보고 어떤 마음이 들었을까. 성인인지 아닌지 헷갈리는 23살의 기분을 표현한 노래들은 온 대중들에게 편견과 좁은 시선으로 받아들여지고 있고 비판과 비난을 감수하며 그래도 나아가는 모습은 23살때와 다르게 좀더 성숙해짐을 느낀다. 이 노래가 싫은가? 그럴땬 아이유를 봐라 벌써 그녀는 앞서 나아간다
[Article] DLWLRMA Magazine - July 2020
Understanding 'ZeZe' and the Orange Tree by EJG
IU's song ‘Zeze’ was released on 2015 as part of her ‘Chat-Shire’ album. It was written by IU from the viewpoint of an orange tree from the book "My Sweet Orange Tree" by José Mauro de Vasconcelos. My thoughts and analysis that may contain some spoilers:
• Prior to reading the book, I already had an idea that it will tackle sensitive issues like poverty and child abuse. The main character, Zeze, a 5-year-old boy who is mischievous and a little advanced for his age experienced beating from his own family.
• Children are sensitive and they would believe whatever people say. In the story, his young mind already absorbed that he's evil and a devil was born in his heart because that's what he's been told many times. Which is why whenever he gets into trouble, he’d say it was the work of the devil inside him. From my own analysis, I can say that he constantly does the naughty pranks because of lack of affection. It’s his only way to get attention. As the story unfolds, the strangers he would meet would eventually see that he is a good and a sweet child after all.
• Zeze found comfort through his imagination along with the orange tree in their backyard. He thinks that the tree could speak to him like a real person. This is an interesting part for me because in the book, they really had actual conversations. It became a daily routine for him to talk to the tree telling how his everyday life went on. After much thought, I realized that maybe, Zeze finding a friend in a form of this tree was an escape from the reality of his cruel life. At least, someone listens and understands.
• Another character named Manuel became Zeze's good friend. With Manuel, he found the father figure he never had. Manuel became his only family, the only person who made him feel loved. And because he is a child deprived of these things, he became vulnerable by the acts of kindness shown to him by Manuel. The child's soft spot is gradually shown.
• There were also moments when Zeze had thoughts of suicide. He had thoughts that he shouldn't have been born. The psychological effects of maltreatment to children could be seen here.
• The orange tree, being the imaginary talking companion of Zeze, also plays a significant symbolism in the story - a friend he cannot afford to lose. The tree would have an extremely sad ending.
In connection to IU's lyrics, the duality of Zeze's character interests IU a lot. The song became controversial years ago because IU was accused of being a pedophile, sexualizing a young boy in this song. If a person looks through IU's lyrics without reading the whole book, it'll really cause confusion and misunderstanding. To mention some points:
"Climb up me" - in the story, Zeze often plays on the orange tree's branches, pretending to ride on a horse. It's actually quite typical for the tree to ask Zeze to climb on itself.
"Pick my only flower/take the Flower" - in the story, the tree only had one flower. And the part where it was mentioned was a fairly important and sad scene, not a sensual one. There is nothing sexual here.
The cover art for the album shows a young boy with stockings. Zeze used the stockings on one of his childish pranks. There is nothing sexual there too.
In defense of IU, we all have different perceptions and interpretations when it comes to arts and music. We never know what's exactly running into the minds of artists. But for me, after reading the book, I know one thing is for sure. IU's song, ‘Zeze’ sends a deep, different kind of message which, unfortunately, some people refused to see and understand.
Yes, IU, you are the best.
이 노래에 뭐 순결을 가지러 오라고 하는 의미가 있다는 글도 봤었음 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 충격적이다 아직도… 신비롭고 유니크한 걸 그렇게 해석하다니 그거에 선동된 사람들 수준이 딱 보인 사건…
아니 그 쇼미에서 누가 랩 할때 리듬을 딱 좋아하는 위치에 잘 강조해서 넣는다고 했는데 뭔소린가 했는데 아이유 제제 들으니까 그게 뭔지 대충 알겠다... 리듬감 미쳐...통통 튀는데 잔잔해...진짜 띵곡...
I love this song, I love IU unconditionally. We shouldn't blame everything on her, just enjoy her style, her music and her afford.
I love her voice and this album shows she matured. She will pass this witch hunt, her fans should stay strong beside her.
+noangeleyes2 Well said!
***** Not all Korean fans think like that, just some knetizens with too much time on their hands and hate. By the way, I'm not a fan of her, I'm Cassiopeia fan (I love TVXQ and JYJ) and a Cloud (Rain fan) and I know all this media manipulation and netizens craziness, to well. I just love the songs and think she has a great live voice.
Like I said, I'm not a fan so I don't know how bad things are, I don't follow Naver or Pan to read about IU. Hope things will go better for her 'coz she is a great young voice. If you are a fan of her and a Korean and have time maybe you should speak with other Korean fans and trying post good things about her and defend her. The more the merrier. Good luck, seems like she needs it.
I will never ever get why Kpeople are so adamant with their hate.
It's ok, I know that feeling, too.
시간 진짜 빠르다 이게 오년전이라니
아니 진짜 가사를 어떻게 이렇게 쓸 수가 있지? 진짜 천재인가? 가사 하나하나가 다 소름 돋게 너무 좋음.. 특히 2절 가사가 진짜 대박 적으로 너무 좋음. 진짜 제제는 듣자마자 책 읽는 기분이었음 갠적으로 아이유노래중 제제가 젤 최애곡 하 그리고 너무 이뻐
나도 이노래가 아이유 최애곡 ㅎㅎ
나두 좋아 좋아..대체 뭐가 비판적으로 글 하나하나세겨 듣는지ㅡㅡ이상혀.. 꼬인사람들만 모임?
극공감 ㅠㅠ 진짜 챗셔는 명반인것 같아요
The man playing the guitar and singing with her sings so well, I prefer his voice over the one in the album.
he's jehwi...jehwi :)... thia guy is so mysterious. but then it's good to hear his masterpiece once in a while
and i keep wondering that i really interest with iu or people behind her back because most of them is so talented. she know her person very well
Teru Teru Bozu Shi yep he composed a few IU songs and he was only 19 in this clip
노래존나좋아..♡ 역시아이유♡
챗셔앨범은 진짜 최곤듯.. 아이유 팬은아닌데 이 앨범은 전곡재생
이 앨범 전곡재생=유애나(아이유 팬클럽이름)
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
팬은 아닌데 이런말하면 찐팬같아요
이 앨범은 진짜 버릴게 없음
ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 본인만 팬 아니라고 알고 있는
경우. 이 앨범 곡들 다 다르게 좋아요. 요즘은 멜로디 없는 노래가 너무 많아서 ㅜㅜ 지금 보면 가사도 딱 그 나이때 고민할만한 성숙함과 귀여움이 다 있는데 솔직하기도 하고
@@user-nu1is8ew7n이앨범은 버릴 '수' 있는게 없음
최애 노래 ...
Consider how self-referential the whole Chatshire album is (taking back identity, coming of age, empowerment through self-deprecation/reflection), Zeze appears to be an allegorical approach to her feelings and moods at that point in her career. IU has a history of acknowledging social stigmas through her work. Tackling sensitive topics such as yellow journalism/media, discriminatory public personas, SNS haters/bullies, depression, suicide, love, loss, sleeping disorders etc... This whole album revolves around a heightened fantasy world liken to 'It is a mad mad world' in Alice in wonderland. Where Alice is both the victim and the heroine is forced to take on an introspective journey through the looking glass, examining various perspectives/creatures to fulfill personal growth and self-actualization. This reference also appears later in Palette and Bbibbi for example IU is a clever storyteller and artistic jester with her unique sonnets/limericks/metaphors to continue to play around public perceptions. I hope she remains pure-hearted in this approach and never loses that sense of artistic innocence and wonder and bow down to commercial pressures. Luckily years later, I think she never did. Congrats on the upcoming 918 x 12! May you continue to be unique, creative, authentic, bold, and brave! 👍
i think iu is amazing bc she admires the souls of people, not their outer appearances.
that's what she means by she likes the boy's charm
우리 아이유언니의 천재성이 번뜩이는 이 노래 제제,,,
21년인데도 다시 보는 사람 누르고 가라
only real artist can understands the real meaning of her song ...and iu was a genius artist ,she opened the eyes of the public..
이건 명곡이야!
라이브도 최고!
나의 daily play-list 첫번째 곡!
노래진심 너무 좋다...
The set is sooo pretty and one of my favourite songs in the album!!
This is actually my favorite track out of her whole album and it sounds amazing live. ;-;
아직도 듣고 본다. 레전드.
There are some people who think that she got some huge backlash, LOL NO SHE DIDN'T. Her concerts continued on, even well known celebrities supported and guested on her shows. Her CFs didn't get cancelled, in fact a soju company renewed the contract. She was an MC at SBS gayodaejon and performed the epic diss song 23. She's starring in a drama. She's also holding 7 concerts in China. If you look up the Gallup poll, she's still #1 in idol ranking (even when the 'controversy' broke out). I think she's also the most subscribed artist on melon. CONTINUE TO SLAY IU. This is how you respond to netizens.
Who was 23 dissing? o:
+kedd netizens.
IU❤💘💘💘
marix I don't understand why what happened exactly to my lovely iu??
hikari yuri to keep it short she had a controversy with this song. The netizens claimed that it is pedophilic. Second was with her twenty three MV claiming that it has a lollita theme.
걍 노래 개좋음 ㅠㅠ
Despite Zeze's not favorable reception bcoz of its complicated meaning and poetry..i really love the song..As an international fan., when you look at IU's career frm 2008 til 2015, you can easily interpret that Zeze is her.. even though its inspired by a book.. Im just SAD that its her First self produce album as part of her healing process..and she can't promote it properly at that time..To me, All Chatshire album songs are incredible, they are written and compose with a mind of sharing her life struggle to her fans and listerners at that time.. Since we are in a modern era now, hopefully most of us will be openminded and understanding in terms of how artists and idols expresses themselves thru their music..☺️
아이유의노래를들을수있다는게 삶의크나큰행복,,
Those who commented negatively about this song didn't understood it, or even tried to. Furthermore if they just bought her album they would have understood it, it can be seen on Zeze track page, she was on a tree. Geez, the concept was her being somewhat Zeze, in the music industry.
흥미로운 듯,
씩 올라가는 입꼬리 좀 봐
그 웃음만 봐도 알아 분명히 너는 짓궂어
아아, 이름이 아주 예쁘구나 계속 부르고 싶어
말하지 못하는 나쁜 상상이 사랑스러워
조그만 손가락으로 소리를 만지네
간지러운 그 목소리로 색과 풍경을 노래 부르네 yeah
제제, 어서 나무에 올라와
잎사귀에 입을 맞춰
장난치면 못써
나무를 아프게 하면 못써 못써
제제, 어서 나무에 올라와
여기서 제일 어린잎을 가져가
하나뿐인 꽃을 꺾어가
Climb up me
Climb up me
꽃을 피운 듯,
발그레해진 저 두 뺨을 봐
넌 아주 순진해 그러나 분명 교활하지
어린아이처럼 투명한 듯해도 어딘가는 더러워
그 안에 무엇이 살고 있는지,
알 길이 없어
당장에 머리 위엔 햇살을 띄우지만
어렴풋이 보이는 너의 속은 먹구름과 닿아있네 oh
제제, 어서 나무에 올라와
잎사귀에 입을 맞춰
장난치면 못써
나무를 아프게 하면 못써 못써
제제, 어서 나무에 올라와
여기서 제일 어린잎을 가져가
하나뿐인 꽃을 꺾어가
Climb up me
Climb up me
한 번 더 닿고 싶어
여기서 매일 너를 기다려
전부 가지러 오렴
다시 부르고 싶어
여기서 매일 너를 기다려
얄밉게 돌아가도 내일 밤에 또 보러 올 거지
제제, 어서 나무에 올라와
잎사귀에 입을 맞춰
장난치면 못써
나무를 아프게 하면 못써 못써
제제, 어서 나무에 올라와
여기서 제일 어린잎을 가져가
하나뿐인 꽃을 꺾어가
Climb up me
Climb up me
김영훈 .
옹 가사찾고있었는데
@이민재 그니까요 해석을 사람마다 다르게하겠지만 지은언니가 의도힌거란 다른 그해석을 가지고 악플다는건 이해가안가네요
@@도앵-y4s 스물셋도 지은언니 이야기같은데 왜계속 알지도못하는것들이 와서 로리타 ㅇㅈㄹ 큐큐ㅠㅠㅠㅠ 정말루 속상하네유ㅠㅠ
이민재 스물셋 뮤비땜에 그래요 ㅋㅋ.. 젖병빨기 크레파스로 입술 칠하기 얼굴에 시리얼 던져서 로리타 따라함
노래 들으러 왔는데 아이유 왤케 예뻐 미친....ㄷㄷㄷㄷ
이 노래 내 최애곡ㅠㅠ 제제를 모순적으로 표현한 아이유의 작사 실력에 진짜 천재라 느꼈어요!! 책을 읽지도 않고 책 내용도 모르면서 야하다.. 비난하고 욕했던 사람들이 진짜 무지한거임! 책 읽고 이 노래를 들으면 느끼는 게 다를거에요 진짜 아이유는 대단한 뮤지션이에요ㅠㅠ
새싹이 파릇파릇 막 돋아나는 듯한 제제 노래 자체가 꿈틀꿈틀 생동감이 넘치는 생생하고 경쾌한 그래서 지은언니랑 춤이라도 추고픈 충동이 느껴지지 않냐 지금도 보는 사람이 있을까? 2021년 지금까지도...
이노래가 5년전이라는게 믿기지가않네.. 처음나왔을때 진짜좋아했는데
제제가제목이죠
나두 들어
저는 2021년에도 앞으로도 쭉 들을 겁니다
곧 있으면 2022년이냉
다 책에 나오는 표현이고, 곡 설명 자체가 밍기뉴와 제제의 관계가 남녀 사이에서 투닥대는 모습 같아서 그 모습을 가사로 쓴 거임. 그리고 제제가 섹시하다고 한 것도, 섹시하다고 하기 전에 “제제에게 하는 말은 아니다”라고 했는데 이 말이 어느 언론에도 없었음. 그냥 자기 듣고싶은 대로 믿고싶은 대로 믿는 사람들 때문에 커진 진짜 단순 루머였음
지금 책읽었는데
공감입니다
책 안읽었나봐요
다른 사람들은
@@레몬-d7d 그러니까요... 책 표현대로 가사에 인용한건데... 논란 뜨는것도 지금 생각하니까 웃겨요.
그 출판사가 가장 문제였죠
그 아이유가 제제 노래 나의라임오렌지나무 중 한 장면읆 모티브해서 쓴 곡이에용
여러사람들이 제제에게 너는 악마야 아니 너는 천사야 아니 너는 장난끼가 심해 등 여러 모순점이 되는 말들을 한다 그 말을 들은 제제는 본인 스스로를 악마라고 생각한다
이 장면을 보고 가사를 쓰게 되었다고 했어요 그래서 가사에 여러사람들이 제제에게 했던 나쁜 말들이 나오죠
진짜 기레기들;;;;
노래 진짜 좋음 아직까지 듣고있는 노래중 하나
라이브 실화냐??;;;; 개쩌네
지금 이거 되게 도발적이다... 되게 너무 공격적이고 너무 당돌해 보인다.. 지금 나온 삐삐의 영향인가 반항적으로 보이기까지 한다... 아이유 눈빛이 그래... 너무 ... 멋있다
this is wayyyy better than the actual audio seriously...
The song that make IU's staff cried when she include it in the song list for her 10th year debut anniversary concerts, coz it reminds them to the difficult time that IU face due to misinterpretation of the song by knezt. She wrote this song actually based on a children story in Brazil about the boy and the orange tree. Public mistook it as song abt being lolita n encouraging pedophile..coz in the lyrics there's a line saying 'come climb me'. Sometimes people just read too much into the song - maybe bcoz IU at 22/23 at the time already so accomplished and wrote so many wonderful songs.. Mature beyond her age but with young girl look.. Not easy being talented young and beautiful like IU.. There will always some who envious and jealous of her accomplishment, even now after more than 10 yrs in the industry..
one of her best songs, period.
시간이 지날수록 재평가되는 곡
장꾸답게 장난끼 가득한 라이브 ❤
IU is a very smart AND strong woman. I respect her even more now.🙌🏻✨
LOVE IU .
진짜 매력적이다 …..
IU is a great singer , I love this song
From the lyrics, I don't get why people hate her. Well, everyone have their own opinion. I still love IU and her music. She's really talented, unique and so cute
Its great seeing brazilian literature inspiring artists around the world, makes me really proud
흥얼거리며 듣게되는노래♥♥
The decorations and everything else's as perfect!! 😌
존예ㅠㅜㅜ아이유ㅠㅜㅡ알라븅 사랑해여꺙 언제봐도 너무이뻐♥
I just recently started listening to IU and I absolutely love all her songs. She's so adorable!!
요새 아이유 노래 빠져 있어서 어쩌다 여까지 왔는데 이때 앨범이 스물셋이라면 난 그때 스물셋 가사 되게 취저였음 논란 부분 말고 가사가 정말 한 인간의 모순적인 모습 하지만 그게 다 본인이라는 것을 보여주는 게 너무 좋았고 와닿았어서. 그리고 이 영상 노래의 영감이 된 소설은 안 봐서 모르겠지만 결국 이것도 스물셋과 비슷한 것 같음 뭔가 대강 댓 읽어보면 순수하면서도 영악한 제제란 아이의 악동스런 모습을 표현한 것 같은데... 뭐지 뭔가 또 할 말이 있었던 것 같은데 쓰면서 잊었네 아무튼 담에 함 읽어봐야지 원작도
난 노래하는 아이유가 가장 좋다😍
Somehow IU imaginary mind are so out there, she real but it not what people want, she just do what she thinks in her mind, i dont care what people say, i still really respect IU...
얄밉게 돌아가도 내일 밤에 또보러올거지 이부분이 젤좋다. 제제의 아이다운 이중성을 정확히 표현했으니까. 심지어 그표현이 귀여움ㅠㅠ
Sanırım bu IU'dan favori şarkım ritmi falan aşırı sakinleştiriyor ve sözler de çok güzel •
5 years later and still amazes me 💕
이 노래는 들을수록 쩌는게 리듬감임. 그냥 리듬만으로도 들을 가치가 있는 노래라 ㅠㅠ 어떻게 안되겠나? 이런 노래 다시 나왔으면 좋겠음.
하루전 ㄷㄷ
다른 탑 연예인들도 유튜브 홍보를 보기 힘든데, 스토커 찐따같은 아이유애나가 홍보하는 아이유 영상이라서 더 짜증나네요- 좋아하지 않는 여가수이며, 음원표절의혹 및 라이브 👎 아이유의 음반, 음원, 콘서트 권유했으며 심지어 협박암시하는 글을 SNS를 통해 해악고지한 바 종로경찰서에 신고했어요!! 아티스트 혹은 소속사, 누가 사주했는지 알 수 없지만 팬심으로 아이유애나가 단독으로 행하지는 않았을 거라 생각합니다. 매너없는 집단 SNS테러를 하며, 작성했던 게시글과 댓글을 삭제하는 교묘한 수법을 사용하여 피해자 코스프레하는 미친광이 집단처럼 보이네요. 법을 교묘하게 악행하고 고소남발하는 아티스트 아이유는 아이유애나가 염려하는 자살을 하더라도 박수치며 환호할테니 하루속히 자살했으면 합니다.!! (비판비평을 피하고 싶어 생명을 담보로 협박하는 미친년) 아이유애나 깜가즈아!!
스텔라장 빌런이랑 좀 비슷한 분위기임
@@hjqueen4802이야 *우리 혜진이* 1년 전부터 이러고 있었넼ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@hjqueen4802혹시 이러면 님 인생이 조금이라도 나아지나요?
고작 미니앨범 수록곡 하나로 대한민국을 떠들석하게한 슈스 아이유 너무멋있고 노래 너무좋다
그당시 누가 뭐라던 이노래 스밍하던 내가 승리자고 언니가 승리자야❣️
Let's not talk about the bad influence or not.
I love this special clip version of Zeze. This version has different instruments compare to album version, it sounds smoother and not as noisy as the album version, and the guy as back-vocal make the whole song sounds even better DAEBAK~
작사 진심 잘한다
Love the song. Love IU
하..제제 너무 좋다ㅠㅠ
Well I've been reading lots of comments . Most people don't think that IU was being inappropriate (including me ) but people have been making valid points about the Korean format and understanding the language that IU used. Even so, it is still all based on speculation. Even Koreans can't know exactly what IUs point is since the language that is used is largely metaphorical leaving this song without a doubt open to interpretation. There is and never will be concrete evidence for either this song being inappropriate or it being a metaphor for her experience in the entertainment industry.
노래 정말 좋은데.. 저도 책을 읽었기에 제제에 대해서 알지만 그저 제제의 성격이 잘드러나는 장난스러운 곡같은 느낌인데 어째서 이노래를 듣는데 눈치가보여야 하는지 모르겠네요
위에 미친 두년들아 여기서 나대지말고 꺼져
아이고야... 3부작까지 다 읽고 오시면
로리타 라는 말 못하실텐데...
@@박지원-e6i5j 왜 '아동학대'에 중점을
두고 계시는지 모르겠네요. 3부작까지
다 읽어 보셨으면 그런 말씀 못
하실텐데요...
즈기여 님들아 이거 밍기뉴시선에서 말한거자너;
@@오히오-r9g 아 그건알아영 아이유가 직접느끼고 작사한거는 아는데 그 제가 말한거는 책을 읽고 자기생각을 쓴게 아니고 밍기뉴의 생각?시선으로 쓴거 같다는 말이었어요ㅜㅜ
그 시절 이 가수에게 악의적인 기사를 서슴치 않고 찌끄리던 그 기자조무사의 요즘 활동명이 자연스레 떠오르는 이 아이러니함은 뭘까.. 아무튼 버텨줘서 고맙단 말밖엔...
중간중간 코러스 넣어주는거 너무 좋다💜
She's just awesome, even acting well :)
이 영상은 특히 노래하는 아이유 얼굴을 포커스로 잘 보여줘서 좋아
even I don't care about her scandal. I just love her voice and high note...she is multitalented.
내 입덕 곡 이 전까지는 수록곡까지 찾아들을 정도로 좋아하던 가수는 아니었는데 한참 논란이 뜰 당시에 이 노래를 찾아 들었음
근데 논란이고 뭐고 노래가 너무 충격적이었음 이 당시에 기계음으로 떡칠한 가수들의 노래만 들었었는데 뭐랄까 목소리만 들리는 그 청량함이 있다고 해야 하나
노래에서 너무 깨끗한 목소리만 들려서 충격이었고 다른 수록곡도 모두 들어본 결과 아이유라는 가수의 팬이 되어버렸음
아마 나같은 애들 많을 거다.. 논란때문에 노래 찾아 듣고 결국 팬 되버리고..
그래서 사람들 악플 싸지를때 열심히 쉴드치고 다녔었는데 중2라는 어린 나이 때 나도 열심히 욕 먹고 다녔지..