It’s hilarious actually cause (majority) the people who can afford them don’t have the time nor want to take these cars to 9/10ths on a track. So they operate at 3/10 potential for 9/10ths of their lives
If you are talking about speed limits then yes, cars have been too fast for public roads for quite some time now. The enjoyment of the car however doesn't have to be tied to top speed, but rather working the car within the speed limit but pushing it to it's maximum or near so while doing so. If that means staying in 1st and 2nd gear most of the time, so be it.
@@jimcole5359 I agree, laugh if you like but my focus mkiii 1.6 econetic diesel with 115bhp /199Ib puts a smile on my face everytime. The gear change and steering are sublime..
So nice to relive parts of what was such an epic weekend. It was a pleasure to drive with the 2RS nearby. Thanks so much for bringing it! Nice to see you again too. 🙏🏽
The GT3 RS Weissach Pack has the exact chassis components (albeit different tuning) as the GT2 RS Weissach Pack. The GT2 RS is not more “Motorsport” than the GT3 RS. In fact, the rear wing of the GT3 RS sits higher and generates more down force than the GT2 RS. The GT3 RS actually generates slightly higher cornering speeds than the GT2 RS - Andreas Preuninger’s words not mine.
@@allensaunders449 I would love to own this (and many other cars, too), but there's next to no where to enjoy these cars, anymore. Track-days are the only option - and how often does anyone who works for a living, get to go to such events? But if I can't _drive_ it, that often, it's just a luxury decoration. A Hot-Hatch OTOH, you can thrash to the limit everyday!
@@MusashiSamurai io understand I guess here in california i have access to a track. But i own a 650hp camaro and because of the big engine, throttle response the exceptional brakes, the quality chassis etc. I enjoy driving it on public roads a special experience a regular car doesn't offer
@@allensaunders449 I envy you! :-) I live in London, and we have successive local and national governments of car haters! We now have average-speed-cameras on most of the highways; speed-cameras dotted around every other road; speed-limits dropping everywhere (A local road nearby where the limit used to be 70, is now 30Mph; all local roads have been reduced from 30Mph to 20Mph), for safety, of course! In short, a bunch of Nannies, turning driving into a taboo, that must not be enjoyed! (I have many choice swearwords to share on the subject...)
There seems to be a bit of a trend developing with some of the latest super/hyper cars, in that they're so focused on going faster that they lose some of the qualities that can make a car enjoyable to drive. Looking forward to your track videos James 👍
I think the trend to make cars faster has always been there, but as you're saying it's gotten to the point now where maybe it doesn't actually make the cars any better or more exciting to drive like it did before.
Recently I have become obsessed with the Lotus Evora. Small, light, stripped down little sports manual. Perfectly usable power, perfect packaging and great handling. Big cars with all the tech are great but do you absolutely need it for the focused drive.. 🤔 I have kinda become bored of numbers now. 300-500 is great. I am yet to sit in a 700hp supercar but it's a similar thing with bikes. The smaller bikes are just such great fun and you can really use them without worrying so much about killing yourself. There's plenty enough thrill and the occasional spook to keep you on your toes. I have really grown to love machines with more usable more focused and engaging characteristics. What's happening to me. 😂 Regardless. Loving the selection of cars here. I am sure they will be an absolute blast on the track.
The sheer durability of these top spec Porsches put them in a class of their own. You can thrape them all day on a track and then drive it to work next day without so much as a hiccup. Try that in an Aston (and I have with mine) and something will break.
James I said 100% the same thing for GT2RS, 99,9999% of people don’t have capability to take it to it’s full potential. Amazing review as always, thank you!
Great video James. Its been said many times: you have more fun driving a slow(er) car fast, than a fast car slow. And to enjoy the GT2 RS in public roads, you either go to an Autobahn or you loose your driving license and end up in jail. Thats why I love my Golf GTI so much.
Yes, this GT 2 RS has the Weisach package. If the bonnet has the U shaped pattern on it a Weisach. But you can delete that, so not every Weisach has it.
I totally agree with you. I have a Skoda with 235 kw and a 1976 Galant with probably about 60kw. On the country roads near where I live, I have more fun in the Galant than I do in the Skoda due to the lightness, mechanical feed back and the sound of twin carbs.
Very well said when you speak of the very few bursts of enjoyment when on public roads. This and your video around GT3 with stick or PDK resonate a lot with what I find in my driving experience. It’s about extending the enjoyable moments, and not permanently waiting for the next short moment to leverage the potential a car has. In that respect, GT4 and (the new) Spyder seem to adress this topic well...
I agree, it’s a supercar that is just too raw for enjoyable driving! Yes overtaking/passing other vehicles in bursts can be quite fun w that power.....but that’s not why Porsche built it!
Mr JWW basically explaining all the selling points of having a GT3 manual over a GT2 RS. Still a incredible car but in these days of overly engineered road cars the GT3 with its screaming NA 6 more engaging manual transmission and slightly less actual usable performance gets my vote all day. Plus the 100k savings and it’s a bargain! Can someone loan me $200k please?
I had the opportunity to see it in person in Guards Red for the first time two weeks ago in Chicago at a dealer and I loved it to pieces seeing it sit on those wheels with the centre locks... Took me by storm... Dream car land for me...
So as an owner of a GT2RS and GT3RS I am not biased when it comes to my opinion on this. I think the GT2 RS sound is good, not great but it's not bad, you need to be driving in the 4k-7k RPM's for the good sound. It's a deep bass rumbling sound where as the GT3RS is a high pitch screaming sound. I still feel like the GT2RS is more fun because the torque and power is addicting and after driving it the GT3RS seems slow. Both great cars though!
The window of joy is much larger in an aircooled 911... WITH great sound!!! It’s a pity that with all developments something else get lost. In the end there ain’t no perfect car existing. ENJOY 💙 !!!
James, thank you so much for another great review! I get your point about performance being too much for a braid window of smiles. As an aside, I believe you may have meant extract rather than extrapolate. Keep them coming James, always a joy.
Agree on the Exige , had the S1 with performance pack, which if I remember correctly had 196 bhp, very light , great for the track, think it produced 8Okg of down force back then, did quite a few track days in this car, was quicker than most cars on track at that time , due to its power to weight ratio.
I'm super curious how this would compare to the 997 GT2 RS with the manual. Still wont have the sound, but it's not quite as ape shit fast to be unusable it would seem.
What a coincidence, drove these roads today! Lake Vyrnwy, Bala & over the Berwyn hills etc! My local driving roads I fact, so glad you think they’re as epic as I do!
First view of this channel and a new subscription it is! You said exactly what I’ve been saying for some years now, but I’d paint it out with a broader brush: new sports cars are too good to be enjoyed properly on public roads. Not just the GT2RS. Let’s widen that to all post 996, maybe 997.1 are just so damned capable and packed with electronic trickery (read PDK) that they don’t give you the enjoyment you’re looking for without sending you behind bars, if enjoyed on public roads. Currently I’m on my 7th and 8th Porsche 911, and I must say no 1 (964C4) and 5 (964C2cab) were the best ones so far as to driver enjoyment comes, due to manual gears and no turbo engine. Of the newer stuff I think the manual Carrera T with it’s NA-like engine, stripped cabin, sort of little electronics and reduced sound deadening is more to the point of enjoyment rather than a GT3RS or GT2RS. AND you can seat the whole family on your fun drives. The best 911 so far is the manual, 4 seated, Carrera T.
Do you buy a car just on looks, surely not ? Yes it’s important, but for me it’s how the car actually performs , the braking , handling , how the car puts the power down etc etc Chris Harris choose the 600LT over the Pista on top gear , based on the above reasons.
@@brentpowell7889 Lets not talk bullshit to ourselves, looks it's an important thing when you choose a car, the Mclaren Senna it's the best super/hypercar today but it's not that beautiful and for this reason when it was launched very few people keep their reservation spot. The Lamborghini Aventador sold like crazy for its amazing design (and orgasmic sound), the driving part is "meh", especially the gearbox. The 2RS is a great car too but, to me, it is too similar to the 3Rs; the Pista has a completely different rear than the 488gtb and big differences on the front. Ofcourse the driving is the most important thing and everyone has its taste on how a car should behave on street and on track. I choose what I like, not what other people like and think :)
Andre Tennis chill , not sure why you are getting aggressive, was just making a point that’s all , I think you agree , your last comment seems to suggest that, pick drive what you want.
James, did you like Lake Vyrnwy? It's a much visited place by my wife and I, usually nice and quiet, aside from the odd low flyers from the RAF. You would like the hotel, good food and great views of the water. Never seen any cars like those on your stopover mind you. Must have been great (if a bit congested).
Although it is difficult (if not almost impossible) to enjoy the monumental power that these cars possess, on tight and twisty welsh roads, it is the handling and chassis dynamics that can still be enjoyed at the national speed limit.
On wider roads like in Germany (or even US/Dubai where most of these cars are) the GT2 RS will most likely work a lot better than on your tiny British B roads.
no way. This car is too much for the road... you'll be going 100mph+ before you know it and never get close to its handling limits. Maybe if you live in the middle of nowhere with no police
100% agree, the GT2 RS is one of the best ever made but on public roads it’s got too much power and not enough noise and in order to grin from ear to ear you have to be absolutely flat chat which you just can’t do safely on public tarmac. Where as a 430 Scuderia is still a good handling car and an amazing sounding car you could drive that on the same public roads and flex your smile glands the entire time you may not be going that fast but you sound like you are and your Revving it out and changing gears and you’re more engaged and experiencing more of what the cars capable of doing.
Would love to own any one of them. I said it a long time ago, the best car in the lineup is the GT3 manual. You have the analog feel with the sound. I have learned that I like high rpm cars. Anything below 8k is not my cup of tea.
If I had purchased every GT2 RS that I have specd on the Porsche website I would have about 40 of them. I LOVE this car and the GT3 RS, and the 718 GT 4. and.....
The torque that this monster provides would make the experience enjoyable for me. I get the sound concern but in my opinion every engine has it’s own sound characteristics. Personally wouldn’t want to daily drive/use a gt3. The gt2rs engine sound just hints to the monster power that is under your right foot. The only thing missing from the sound is the hissing of turbochargers (think Huayra/Veyron or any modified big turbo car) and it would be perfect.
I had a .2 3RS and it lacked power and took forever to get to 9K rpms. The .2 2RS is way better and love all the torque. Regarding sound, if you engage sport PDK + exhaust it sounds great, at least to me.
Dear James, thanks a lot for the video!! Amazing!! What about 2 modern classic videos(old mazda MX5 miata and mazda RX8) for young guys that want to approach good rear wheel drive cars?? byyyyyye
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I wonder what you consider to be the right balance of power vs usability? It can really only be around 300bhp maximum, depending on weight, gearing etc in my opinion
I think up to 450-500 hp is the upper limit. For example a 911 turbo is just a tad over that limit. And it is a fun car, but it's an actual rocket on the street....
I have to agree with you and thought the same for some time. Super cars, or dream cars, are just getting faster and faster and their potential cannot be used on the public roads. Lots of you tuber channels have said this and also that in the wet they are potentially lethal. Once you reach the national speed limit in under 4 seconds, then what do you do. I know they are desirable to own and there will always be a market for them but they are almost becoming works of art. Pleasurable to own and wonderful to look at. The latest Lotus is boasting 2000 horse power. Track use only I think.
The GT3RS is much easier to enjoy, and you don't need to drive as fast to get the fun out of it as you would need to on the GT2RS. I really needed to hear that.
For the road all supercars are to fast. However I would take one over anything else if given the choice. Pista and GT2RS are the 2 best supercars right now till the SF90 Stradale is out.
I think too fast for the road is so relative to the type of roads you drive, I'm from the US, and when i think about being on open roads and highways a tremendous amount of the enjoyment comes from the shove in the back a car can deliver. So if you live in say texas or florida where that's the only kind of road you have to enjoy a car. Big horsepower is really the only way to have fun. Where as if you drive on super tight roads all the time, like the countryside of england or the mountain areas near to where I live being able to use horsepower is a completely different proposition. I don't know that i really agree with road vs track thought. To me, from my experience on track, cars that have extreme amounts of grip and are truly track setup tend to not be as fun on tight roads even if they only have 350-450 hp because it's the threshold of how fast it can go around a bend that is really makes it too fast for the road. Being shoved to the next corner with power is usually fun regardless. Just a thought.
Driving a slow car fast is allot more fun than driving a fast car slow.
W-James - possibly one of the most driver orientated comments I have ever read, nice one, and you are 100% correct
Yeah, I agree.
driving anything fast is fun
I'd rather have a fast car and go fast some of the time...
True but a fast car fast is the bomb 💣
GT2 RS is truly unbelievable car, but I'd rather have the GT3 or GT3 RS, due to NA engine and 9k rpms.
GT3 with manual transmission, 500hp NA engine, probably the best car money can buy for someone who actually enjoys driving.
I'll take this for performance and better looks
The GT2RS is on the Mount Rushmore of cars , the car is a master piece of engineering !!!!!!!!!!
Generally these days cars are too fast for the road.
It’s hilarious actually cause (majority) the people who can afford them don’t have the time nor want to take these cars to 9/10ths on a track. So they operate at 3/10 potential for 9/10ths of their lives
True. I have an e92 m3 and it’s hard to open it up without getting arrested. 414 hp.
If you are talking about speed limits then yes, cars have been too fast for public roads for quite some time now. The enjoyment of the car however doesn't have to be tied to top speed, but rather working the car within the speed limit but pushing it to it's maximum or near so while doing so. If that means staying in 1st and 2nd gear most of the time, so be it.
@@tomasz899 well said!
@@jimcole5359 I agree, laugh if you like but my focus mkiii 1.6 econetic diesel with 115bhp /199Ib puts a smile on my face everytime.
The gear change and steering are sublime..
"Yes officer, I swear I was wearing a seatbelt, it just blends into my shirt"... Officer: "sure it does, the this ticket will also blend in."
Hahah somehow I doubt the sear belt would be the reason the cops are chasing that car.
You can option the exposed carbon bonnet on the GT3 RS too.
Insert Witty Name Yup. But only full carbon bonnet not the two striped one which is exlusive to the GT2 rs
The Weissach Package. On the 3RS you can delete the carbon hood even if you get Weissach.
timisnthere It’ll still be carbon but you have the option to have it painted
TDFXX Correct.
So nice to relive parts of what was such an epic weekend. It was a pleasure to drive with the 2RS nearby. Thanks so much for bringing it!
Nice to see you again too. 🙏🏽
The GT3 RS Weissach Pack has the exact chassis components (albeit different tuning) as the GT2 RS Weissach Pack. The GT2 RS is not more “Motorsport” than the GT3 RS. In fact, the rear wing of the GT3 RS sits higher and generates more down force than the GT2 RS. The GT3 RS actually generates slightly higher cornering speeds than the GT2 RS - Andreas Preuninger’s words not mine.
Good that I'm not the only won who knows that
Sounds interesting
Does one you have any kind of proof for that statement ? :D
You should make t shirts
"Bandwidth of smile gland interaction"
"Drop cogs and make haste"
BRILLIANT!
It’s a track car, if you’re someone who would track it then it’s great!!! Personally on roads like that I would take the V12 Vantage!
Especially with a manual transmission.
It's for all those reasons that Hot-Hatches are some of the best fun you can have on the road... and not lose your license...
I would rather have this car then any so called hot hatch
@@allensaunders449 I would love to own this (and many other cars, too), but there's next to no where to enjoy these cars, anymore. Track-days are the only option - and how often does anyone who works for a living, get to go to such events?
But if I can't _drive_ it, that often, it's just a luxury decoration. A Hot-Hatch OTOH, you can thrash to the limit everyday!
@@MusashiSamurai io understand I guess here in california i have access to a track. But i own a 650hp camaro and because of the big engine, throttle response the exceptional brakes, the quality chassis etc. I enjoy driving it on public roads a special experience a regular car doesn't offer
@@allensaunders449 I envy you! :-)
I live in London, and we have successive local and national governments of car haters!
We now have average-speed-cameras on most of the highways; speed-cameras dotted around every other road; speed-limits dropping everywhere (A local road nearby where the limit used to be 70, is now 30Mph; all local roads have been reduced from 30Mph to 20Mph), for safety, of course!
In short, a bunch of Nannies, turning driving into a taboo, that must not be enjoyed!
(I have many choice swearwords to share on the subject...)
There seems to be a bit of a trend developing with some of the latest super/hyper cars, in that they're so focused on going faster that they lose some of the qualities that can make a car enjoyable to drive. Looking forward to your track videos James 👍
Because stupid youtubers, carjournalists, experts and non-experts keep mentioning laptimes and 0-60 times
I think the trend to make cars faster has always been there, but as you're saying it's gotten to the point now where maybe it doesn't actually make the cars any better or more exciting to drive like it did before.
What qualities are lost none the great engineering makes the driving better not worse
@@maurizioarrivabene8182 thats what these channel's are about special cars. Go away and watch a honda civic review
@@allensaunders449 did you seriously just ask what qualities were lost during the last 10 years of automotive progression? Do you even drive?
Glad you mentioned the sound and to me it's part of what makes super cars special and therefore what to me will make electric cars so uninteresting
Sound is overated performance is more important
@@allensaunders449 No!
@@allensaunders449 absolutely not.
Recently I have become obsessed with the Lotus Evora.
Small, light, stripped down little sports manual. Perfectly usable power, perfect packaging and great handling.
Big cars with all the tech are great but do you absolutely need it for the focused drive.. 🤔
I have kinda become bored of numbers now. 300-500 is great. I am yet to sit in a 700hp supercar but it's a similar thing with bikes. The smaller bikes are just such great fun and you can really use them without worrying so much about killing yourself. There's plenty enough thrill and the occasional spook to keep you on your toes.
I have really grown to love machines with more usable more focused and engaging characteristics.
What's happening to me. 😂
Regardless. Loving the selection of cars here. I am sure they will be an absolute blast on the track.
ғɪʟʟ 1ɴ ᴛ҉ ʜ3 ʙʟᴀɴᴋs plus the best steering in the business, and it sounds great.
You’re right about everything you expressed
I thought you didn’t wear a seatbelt. But later I saw that it’s the same colour as your shirt.
The sheer durability of these top spec Porsches put them in a class of their own. You can thrape them all day on a track and then drive it to work next day without so much as a hiccup. Try that in an Aston (and I have with mine) and something will break.
James I said 100% the same thing for GT2RS, 99,9999% of people don’t have capability to take it to it’s full potential.
Amazing review as always, thank you!
Your telling me that walki’s primary purpose isnt to shout for police 😂
Great video James. Its been said many times: you have more fun driving a slow(er) car fast, than a fast car slow. And to enjoy the GT2 RS in public roads, you either go to an Autobahn or you loose your driving license and end up in jail. Thats why I love my Golf GTI so much.
My left ear thoroughly enjoyed this one :)
Same
Fine for me?
Garage Midnight E92 M3 tho 👌🏼
thedownshiftchannel spotted
randomdude12 great car
Hahah JWW doesnt even acknowledge it as part of the group lol.
@@augustortiz yeah that don't worth mentioning when u got Porsche Ferrari lambo thier
That's BMW don't worth mentioning when u got GT2RS GT3RS Pista lambo
Isn’t the 2RS specc’ed with with Weissach Pack ... hence all the carbon?
Yes, this GT 2 RS has the Weisach package. If the bonnet has the U shaped pattern on it a Weisach. But you can delete that, so not every Weisach has it.
Says it on head rests
You the Man when it comes to high end video blogs, Thank you Mr.JWW.
@Mr JWW honestly the shots of the cars in the rain are some of my favorite. Love seeing the water beading off the cars!
I seem to get plenty of rain so lots more shots to come! 😂
@@MrJWW Great content! Keep it up!
The GT3 RS is the 991.2 that appeals to me the most.
I like the GT2 RS, but I'd rather be in the V12 Vantage in front. ;)
Double the cylinders, not nearly as quick tho
I agree, I love Aston Martin and especially a V12 one 😍
More usable speed. The sound.
Tony's GT3 RS and the silver Aston Martin Vantage with silver wheels. Both absolutely stunning 🤤
I totally agree with you. I have a Skoda with 235 kw and a 1976 Galant with probably about 60kw. On the country roads near where I live, I have more fun in the Galant than I do in the Skoda due to the lightness, mechanical feed back and the sound of twin carbs.
Very well said when you speak of the very few bursts of enjoyment when on public roads. This and your video around GT3 with stick or PDK resonate a lot with what I find in my driving experience. It’s about extending the enjoyable moments, and not permanently waiting for the next short moment to leverage the potential a car has. In that respect, GT4 and (the new) Spyder seem to adress this topic well...
Brilliant analysis on the fun factor of the GT2 RS vs other GT models.
I agree, it’s a supercar that is just too raw for enjoyable driving! Yes overtaking/passing other vehicles in bursts can be quite fun w that power.....but that’s not why Porsche built it!
Mr JWW basically explaining all the selling points of having a GT3 manual over a GT2 RS. Still a incredible car but in these days of overly engineered road cars the GT3 with its screaming NA 6 more engaging manual transmission and slightly less actual usable performance gets my vote all day. Plus the 100k savings and it’s a bargain! Can someone loan me $200k please?
I had the opportunity to see it in person in Guards Red for the first time two weeks ago in Chicago at a dealer and I loved it to pieces seeing it sit on those wheels with the centre locks... Took me by storm... Dream car land for me...
So as an owner of a GT2RS and GT3RS I am not biased when it comes to my opinion on this. I think the GT2 RS sound is good, not great but it's not bad, you need to be driving in the 4k-7k RPM's for the good sound. It's a deep bass rumbling sound where as the GT3RS is a high pitch screaming sound. I still feel like the GT2RS is more fun because the torque and power is addicting and after driving it the GT3RS seems slow. Both great cars though!
How rude, you walked straight past the Ford Focus at 4:30 without a second glance!! ;-)
The window of joy is much larger in an aircooled 911... WITH great sound!!! It’s a pity that with all developments something else get lost. In the end there ain’t no perfect car existing. ENJOY 💙 !!!
Another grab for MR JWW says "smile gland bandwidth". Love it James
Maybe too extreme for the road. Chap turned up to a 5 miler yesterday evening in a MK1 Lotus Elise. All you ever need, right there
I had more fun in a 120bhp Caterham than I have in any other car ever! period! And that includes a GT3 RS, 720S, 458 speziale etc etc!
Great video James . Awesome car. Looking forward to you and tony on track ! He is fast you know 💨
The GT2RS is an amazing car but clearly not a sensible choice for public roads.
James, thank you so much for another great review! I get your point about performance being too much for a braid window of smiles. As an aside, I believe you may have meant extract rather than extrapolate. Keep them coming James, always a joy.
What a video the sound of the GT2 is absolutely amazing and all the cars look amazing good work keep it up
Agree on the Exige , had the S1 with performance pack, which if I remember correctly had 196 bhp, very light , great for the track, think it produced 8Okg of down force back then, did quite a few track days in this car, was quicker than most cars on track at that time , due to its power to weight ratio.
I'm super curious how this would compare to the 997 GT2 RS with the manual. Still wont have the sound, but it's not quite as ape shit fast to be unusable it would seem.
What a coincidence, drove these roads today! Lake Vyrnwy, Bala & over the Berwyn hills etc! My local driving roads I fact, so glad you think they’re as epic as I do!
First view of this channel and a new subscription it is!
You said exactly what I’ve been saying for some years now, but I’d paint it out with a broader brush: new sports cars are too good to be enjoyed properly on public roads. Not just the GT2RS. Let’s widen that to all post 996, maybe 997.1 are just so damned capable and packed with electronic trickery (read PDK) that they don’t give you the enjoyment you’re looking for without sending you behind bars, if enjoyed on public roads. Currently I’m on my 7th and 8th Porsche 911, and I must say no 1 (964C4) and 5 (964C2cab) were the best ones so far as to driver enjoyment comes, due to manual gears and no turbo engine.
Of the newer stuff I think the manual Carrera T with it’s NA-like engine, stripped cabin, sort of little electronics and reduced sound deadening is more to the point of enjoyment rather than a GT3RS or GT2RS. AND you can seat the whole family on your fun drives. The best 911 so far is the manual, 4 seated, Carrera T.
I'd take a Pista over the 2Rs every single day, it just looks more special to me.
Do you buy a car just on looks, surely not ?
Yes it’s important, but for me it’s how the car actually performs , the braking , handling , how the car puts the power down etc etc
Chris Harris choose the 600LT over the Pista on top gear , based on the above reasons.
@@brentpowell7889 Lets not talk bullshit to ourselves, looks it's an important thing when you choose a car, the Mclaren Senna it's the best super/hypercar today but it's not that beautiful and for this reason when it was launched very few people keep their reservation spot.
The Lamborghini Aventador sold like crazy for its amazing design (and orgasmic sound), the driving part is "meh", especially the gearbox.
The 2RS is a great car too but, to me, it is too similar to the 3Rs; the Pista has a completely different rear than the 488gtb and big differences on the front.
Ofcourse the driving is the most important thing and everyone has its taste on how a car should behave on street and on track. I choose what I like, not what other people like and think :)
Andre Tennis chill , not sure why you are getting aggressive, was just making a point that’s all , I think you agree , your last comment seems to suggest that, pick drive what you want.
@@brentpowell7889 I'm totally calm and relax, I just explained my opinion on the argument :)
I'd take neither. GT3 or 600LT are better to me by a long shot. Not for the looks but for the driving. 😁
James, did you like Lake Vyrnwy? It's a much visited place by my wife and I, usually nice and quiet, aside from the odd low flyers from the RAF. You would like the hotel, good food and great views of the water. Never seen any cars like those on your stopover mind you. Must have been great (if a bit congested).
Great content mate. I enjoy your videos and see those cars. Please make more content like this
Only deal is in the description says it’s the fastest production car around the Ring that title goes to the SVJ other than that great video all around
I'd love to see you drive a Stage 3 tuned Golf Gti on those roads.
That's why I drive a base 911 cab. It's as fast as you need for the street before you start to have too much power to enjoy.
It's a great car but it's not for everyone Great review
Although it is difficult (if not almost impossible) to enjoy the monumental power that these cars possess, on tight and twisty welsh roads, it is the handling and chassis dynamics that can still be enjoyed at the national speed limit.
On wider roads like in Germany (or even US/Dubai where most of these cars are) the GT2 RS will most likely work a lot better than on your tiny British B roads.
RaydenSun Exactly
no way. This car is too much for the road... you'll be going 100mph+ before you know it and never get close to its handling limits. Maybe if you live in the middle of nowhere with no police
100% agree, the GT2 RS is one of the best ever made but on public roads it’s got too much power and not enough noise and in order to grin from ear to ear you have to be absolutely flat chat which you just can’t do safely on public tarmac. Where as a 430 Scuderia is still a good handling car and an amazing sounding car you could drive that on the same public roads and flex your smile glands the entire time you may not be going that fast but you sound like you are and your Revving it out and changing gears and you’re more engaged and experiencing more of what the cars capable of doing.
He missed such a good tunnel opportunity
Would love to own any one of them. I said it a long time ago, the best car in the lineup is the GT3 manual. You have the analog feel with the sound. I have learned that I like high rpm cars. Anything below 8k is not my cup of tea.
If I had purchased every GT2 RS that I have specd on the Porsche website I would have about 40 of them. I LOVE this car and the GT3 RS, and the 718 GT 4. and.....
good hear an honest opinion of a super fast road car that can't really be appreciated on the public road, but on track ............
Though for a while gt3 is sweet spot for 911. Can go bright 'supercar' spec or more subtle 'gt' spec and it seems to excel at both.
Nice video as always, enyoing it all the way, cheers from Croatia JWW
Another great video piece , great info ! 👍😁
Great Review! 100% Agree on 2RS review!! Informative and Fun ;)
The torque that this monster provides would make the experience enjoyable for me. I get the sound concern but in my opinion every engine has it’s own sound characteristics. Personally wouldn’t want to daily drive/use a gt3. The gt2rs engine sound just hints to the monster power that is under your right foot. The only thing missing from the sound is the hissing of turbochargers (think Huayra/Veyron or any modified big turbo car) and it would be perfect.
This added a more of a fun factor to my Saturday!
Nicely said James, glad to hear it, all doubters saying your are paid for positive review from Porche can shut mouth now 🙂👍
interesting points made of the GT2RS, makes valid sense you can’t enjoy it as you might think you could.
What's the name of the track @ 2:00?
Great content as always
I had a .2 3RS and it lacked power and took forever to get to 9K rpms. The .2 2RS is way better and love all the torque. Regarding sound, if you engage sport PDK + exhaust it sounds great, at least to me.
Dear James, thanks a lot for the video!! Amazing!! What about 2 modern classic videos(old mazda MX5 miata and mazda RX8) for young guys that want to approach good rear wheel drive cars?? byyyyyye
Don't forget the 986 Boxster.... 😊
That 600 LT license plate is a winner
Gorgeous Porsche GT2 RS!!!
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I wonder what you consider to be the right balance of power vs usability? It can really only be around 300bhp maximum, depending on weight, gearing etc in my opinion
I think up to 450-500 hp is the upper limit. For example a 911 turbo is just a tad over that limit. And it is a fun car, but it's an actual rocket on the street....
Oh shit saw all these cars on a Welsh mountain roads and almost screamed on my way back from mountain biking.
I have to agree with you and thought the same for some time. Super cars, or dream cars, are just getting faster and faster and their potential cannot be used on the public roads. Lots of you tuber channels have said this and also that in the wet they are potentially lethal. Once you reach the national speed limit in under 4 seconds, then what do you do. I know they are desirable to own and there will always be a market for them but they are almost becoming works of art. Pleasurable to own and wonderful to look at. The latest Lotus is boasting 2000 horse power. Track use only I think.
what's going on with your modern classic series? deleted and private videos...
One is private, one has been deleted. All the others are still online.
@@fraoho Thanks Sherlock, doesn't answer my question though.
Sounds like Jeff stelling is driving Haha. Brilliant video, keep up the good content!
The GT3RS is much easier to enjoy, and you don't need to drive as fast to get the fun out of it as you would need to on the GT2RS.
I really needed to hear that.
This GT2 RS + GT3 Touring= Perfect 2 car garage
Was the Guards Red GT2 RS not there that day? I see it regularly at meets near me.
That Pista spec is so sick
Have you covered the Alpine a110 by any chance? It's plenty fast and you can still actually use it to it's fullest potential on the road
Really warmed up to these 600LTs. Menacing
Left audio channel seems to be overpowering
to the point of where it hurts
Because he is holding the camera with his right hand..
Totally agree. GT3 FTW
I don't think you're using the word extrapolate quite right for what you wanted to say.
Doesn't matter though. :)
Great video as usual.
For the road all supercars are to fast. However I would take one over anything else if given the choice. Pista and GT2RS are the 2 best supercars right now till the SF90 Stradale is out.
I'm here for the music...and cars.
Legitimately my dream day in my dream car 👊😎 Can't thank you enough for this video mate 🙏
Jww is a genius!
The audio on today's video is off for some reason
Great vid would love to see you expand your vids to include watches!!
I think too fast for the road is so relative to the type of roads you drive, I'm from the US, and when i think about being on open roads and highways a tremendous amount of the enjoyment comes from the shove in the back a car can deliver. So if you live in say texas or florida where that's the only kind of road you have to enjoy a car. Big horsepower is really the only way to have fun. Where as if you drive on super tight roads all the time, like the countryside of england or the mountain areas near to where I live being able to use horsepower is a completely different proposition. I don't know that i really agree with road vs track thought. To me, from my experience on track, cars that have extreme amounts of grip and are truly track setup tend to not be as fun on tight roads even if they only have 350-450 hp because it's the threshold of how fast it can go around a bend that is really makes it too fast for the road. Being shoved to the next corner with power is usually fun regardless. Just a thought.
Personally I like the GT3 models better, GT2 tips a bit over, like the black area behind the back wheels on the GT2.
TONY IS THE MAN! ALPHA MALE who's got SHIT GOIN ON. LOVE that dude. keep slaying it Tony Mr Gravelwood!
I Think that 3-500 hp is perfect and the best on the road. Why? Cause one can use the revs.
Doesn’t GT2 RS come with black plastic unless it has the Weissach package??
No, they have the same carbon parts.