Coney Reacts to "Melee Has Changed"

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  • Опубликовано: 23 дек 2024

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  • @excelsior7345
    @excelsior7345 Год назад +531

    Coney's thumbnail and titles have changed... he's trying to send us a message from the content dungeon

    • @nero7862
      @nero7862 Год назад +29

      It's probably because they are smash videos, and it seems like they get more views generally.

    • @sporkyone
      @sporkyone Год назад +15

      @@nero7862 coney HATES smash

    • @d3lta971
      @d3lta971 11 месяцев назад +4

      He is becoming hbox

  • @tinglyjungle
    @tinglyjungle Год назад +339

    Every time I see James Bond in anything I go on a four hour rant about the world we could've livied in if James Bond was simply in Super Smash Bros Melee. Mang0 throws games at genesis with James Bond? Jmook wins the first major for his character (solo james bond) in 20 years? Truly the better timeline.

    • @Xxblade17
      @Xxblade17 Год назад +1

      💀

    • @youmeltube
      @youmeltube Год назад +3

      Would Bond just have been Melee Snake?

    • @steeveedragoon
      @steeveedragoon Год назад

      Honestly, that just sounds like a yugioh player stating their opinion on whether or not Maxx "C" should be banned.
      You get us started and we'll argue for hours about that damn card.
      I genuinely believe that it's impossible for anyone to have a civil discussion about Maxx "C" without it dissolving into a bloodbath where people are at each other's throats.
      For context on this thing you likely don't care about. Think about the Steve controversy in ultimate and think about how decisive that is. Now multiply that by water reacting with Sodium.
      That's how big the divide is in the community.
      And also, I feel like I need to go out of my way to say that Maxx "C" should never come off the ban list, and anyone who thinks it should is a fucking dumbass.

    • @BlazenPowers
      @BlazenPowers Год назад +9

      @@youmeltube Not even close. He uses guns instead of everything exploding.

    • @illford
      @illford Год назад +3

      @@BlazenPowers So even worse than snake

  • @LeonMassey
    @LeonMassey Год назад +32

    12:17 Fete mentioned patriotism at 300%

    • @BigOlBoy
      @BigOlBoy Год назад +3

      Oh hey it's the guy that got me into guilty gear. Thanks for that

    • @LeonMassey
      @LeonMassey Год назад +17

      @@BigOlBoy I'm so sorry

    • @g.g6778
      @g.g6778 Год назад

      Oh hey, its the guy that got me excited for strive, 😔

  • @ArcadeStriker
    @ArcadeStriker Год назад +210

    For those saying that Coney is using un-coney titles now, my head canon is that he's doing these for the Leon Massey and AsumSaus videos due to their quality (and also likely being catchy for anyone that watched those), but we prob will get classic Coney if it is another WatchMojo reaction video lol

    • @Silverado-pq6xe
      @Silverado-pq6xe Год назад +7

      Exactly, I wanted to watch coney react to this right when it came out. Melee + coney is very good content

    • @wienerschnitzel1739
      @wienerschnitzel1739 Год назад +2

      Ur prob right, though I’ve also seen a decent amount of comments saying his old naming were bad at attracting attention so maybe he’s caught on

    • @co5micwaffle742
      @co5micwaffle742 Год назад +1

      The Cringe Confessional that came out between these videos is classic Coney titled, so it might just be these specific ones.

    • @2maka5u
      @2maka5u Год назад +1

      I already watched both of those videos before the reaction, so I kinda appreciate knowing this is what I’m getting vs a typical Coney title where it could be Wheel Champ, ReactMojo, or god knows what. Those can keep the goofy titles tho

  • @kyallon1213
    @kyallon1213 Год назад +51

    Let it be known that coney counterpicked to warioware in tournament and lost as incineroar. He’s not biased, he truly cares about the health of ultimate

  • @wienerschnitzel1739
    @wienerschnitzel1739 Год назад +42

    If Coney titled this video like he normally does this would be called “This game SUCKS now” with the classic facepalm Coney pic in the thumbnail

  • @StormierNik
    @StormierNik Год назад +10

    On the Fountain of Dreams lag situation, I heard at this point it only affects multiple sets of ice climbers. So basically a matchup that almost never happens, icies dittos, and people still say "No you cant have that itll have lag on this 1/5148 matchup possibility

  • @luyeteir85
    @luyeteir85 Год назад +30

    "fast characters will never be bad"
    Little mac:

  • @NutterButter774
    @NutterButter774 Год назад +13

    Did you guys know CONEY has a Sega Saturn in his room??

  • @Xanek
    @Xanek Год назад +91

    I'm surprised that the characters models for the game weren't all already at their correct size and that they scaled them based on what they needed.
    One would assume that they would have them already at the correct size.

    • @exa_eille
      @exa_eille Год назад +43

      Some stuff's easier to model bigger/smaller. Smooth curves usually

    • @adv78
      @adv78 Год назад +27

      Modeling is small stuff is hard. Imagine modeling Pichu, with details, already on that small of a size
      So they just model it bigger than shrink it to fit the game, just how an artist probably won't make an image in 360p even if it's the resolution that will be displayed in-game

    • @Foxenco
      @Foxenco Год назад +5

      To add to the other answers, you don't know how size will affect balance in the game when you are modeling the characters.

    • @Moss_Dude
      @Moss_Dude Год назад +4

      They don't create all of the models side-by-side with each other, they don't know how anything will look in comparison to the others until they put them together

    • @toowiggly
      @toowiggly Год назад

      @@adv78 That isn't really how model sizes work. The size of the models have little to no bearing on how easy it is to work on them since you can infinitely zoom so something small appears big in the software you're designing it in.
      Images are different because they're already rasterized and can't be scaled as easily. Many times art is made in the size that it will appear in game, such as pixel art, because scaling can often cause warping. Making models is similar to making vectorized art since they're both just storing points for the software to rasterize from when the game is running using the given resolution.

  • @beauhendershot7911
    @beauhendershot7911 Год назад +34

    I think people should at the very least experiment with stages like Wario Ware, the stage list in ult feels so boring and I think some bad characters would really benefit from WW and provide some more interesting approaches to matchups

  • @Tonjit41
    @Tonjit41 Год назад +3

    18:11 More has been done to remove counterpickable slants than steve's own walls and ceilings. Let that sink in.

    • @Tonjit41
      @Tonjit41 Год назад

      And I don't want slants either lol but like what the hell

  • @HideInYellow
    @HideInYellow 3 месяца назад

    @6:07 Reaction and prediction confirmation. Good example is Melee Puff's reaction techchase rest even if you're bad at it you can preemptively position to cover a tech to either side and confirm the prediction if it happens.

  • @WiiGi
    @WiiGi Год назад +3

    6:07 A word for reaction and predictive reaction is called anticipation...

  • @DSaC_
    @DSaC_ Год назад +4

    The difference between Meteors and Spikes is simple.
    Meteor Smashes are moves that send at an angle between 260 and 280 degrees, and the game lets you cancel their knockback with a jump or up-special after only 8 frames, making them essentially worthless offstage.
    Spikes are moves that send at a downwards angle outside of the 260-280 Meteor range. Marth's Down-Air sends at something stupid like a 285 degree angle, meaning it just barely avoids being a Meteor.
    Meteor Cancelling was removed in Sm4sh for being a stupid mechanic nobody liked.

  • @RichardULong
    @RichardULong Год назад +51

    who'd he give his channel to these titles and thumbnails are different

  • @HerMajestyVelvet
    @HerMajestyVelvet Год назад +16

    Coneysauce is YTs best series, aside from ReactMojo of course

  • @ramonathomson6575
    @ramonathomson6575 Год назад +2

    learning flame canceling for the bowser match up despite not playing kirby

  • @ykahlil1501
    @ykahlil1501 Год назад +12

    I literally started playing Falco in Ultimate cause of that SSS tier taunt cancel

  • @randomguy8107
    @randomguy8107 6 месяцев назад

    13:38 why is Fiction, who’s apparently a Falco main, not highlighted ?

  • @drstclair
    @drstclair 6 месяцев назад +2

    To me, a read is an educated guess. The read is based off of habits your opponent is displaying. Where as a guess is based around no information.

    • @danthewafflelord3059
      @danthewafflelord3059 6 месяцев назад

      Also utilizing match-up experience and intuition via game sense

  • @WafflesDaPancake
    @WafflesDaPancake Год назад +3

    Ultimate stages upset me man, why are they so big
    Idk how the blastzones of these two stages actually stack up, but Kalos always felt enormous to me and i didnt like playing on it, then Northern Cave got added as DLC and i was like "holy shit, its the same layout but it at least *feels* smaller! I really like this stage, i hope i get to see this in tournament" and years later we still play Kalos cause people have wet dreams about the things they can do with the walls lmao
    Don't get me started on hazards vs hazardless either. I do wish we could just toggle it from the select screen, thats dumb, but i still wanna use both with certain stages being deemed as hazards only and hazardless only. We have enough duplicate stage layouts (especially Smashville and the Kingdom Hearts stage) that you could easily separate them this way
    I dont get the argument either that the players will accidentally pick the hazards version of something and then have to waste time going back to restart. Hand warmers do essentially the same thing and Ultimate literally allows you to make custom rulesets you can just pull up semi-instantly
    IIRC the Gimvitational used this kind of format with basically no issues, idk why we cant just make this standard, i wanna get off PS2 for more than 2 games

    • @toowiggly
      @toowiggly Год назад

      I love seeing half of a set be played on ps2, and the other half played on small battlefield

  • @El1te01
    @El1te01 Год назад +14

    Coney not understanding the difference between spikes and meteor smashes after being shown the difference and explaining the difference himself is comical to me

    • @saratoga6663
      @saratoga6663 Месяц назад

      he doesn't know why there is a difference. he doesn't know what makes a move meteor cancelable or not

  • @HeftyDan
    @HeftyDan 10 месяцев назад +1

    Playing Melee as a kid, I used to hate fighting Fox and Falco cpus because they were so fast. This was before I knew they were the best.
    I was a Mario main with Kirby and Ness seconds and would get so upset I couldn't beat my brother. The Marth and Falco main

  • @krdp7240
    @krdp7240 Год назад +3

    i’ve never been here this early for a coney vid

  • @Zurg_
    @Zurg_ Год назад

    What’s the song at 16:30? I think it’s from a shantae game?

  • @ZachCG
    @ZachCG Год назад

    9:18 he shoulda said "that ain't falco"

  • @Dankmemes76122
    @Dankmemes76122 Год назад +20

    Coneys gettig more and more original with these titles and thumbnails! 😂

  • @HammMann
    @HammMann Год назад

    12:19 I mean, what would you even expect from a country with a place literally called "WEST. HAM."

  • @Kinglizard220
    @Kinglizard220 6 месяцев назад

    At 7:02 what's the opera song?

  • @KandiKid87
    @KandiKid87 Год назад

    Coney said: Don't.
    I. And chat said: Too late.

  • @anonymous7024
    @anonymous7024 Год назад

    19:36 I that viewer has a personalized copy

  • @PlushieTW
    @PlushieTW 4 месяца назад

    13:13 he did not highlight Fiction's Falco 🤓☝️

  • @mkale1749
    @mkale1749 Год назад

    9:14 they don’t use PAL because mango plays fox

    • @jakefromstatefarm6969
      @jakefromstatefarm6969 Год назад

      Nah it's because everyone plays high tiers, especially fox, and most of them are nerfed.

  • @Senctia
    @Senctia Год назад

    Hell yea, new Coney video

  • @justyoshis
    @justyoshis Год назад

    feelin like i just got mandela affected bc i remember that dudes name being Asum Samus and not awesome sauce

  • @4546Bean
    @4546Bean Год назад +2

    Someones gonna hack their game to make puff bigger now

  • @MeeB3
    @MeeB3 Год назад

    Why did that falco at the start remind me of the ressy 6 giraffe….

  • @dangangalaxy9759
    @dangangalaxy9759 Год назад

    As someone who doesn’t play Melee I have absolutely no clue what that Falco tech is

  • @jork5239
    @jork5239 Месяц назад

    19:20 oh mann…

  • @nicholastjia-gan3329
    @nicholastjia-gan3329 Год назад

    Is this a re upload?

  • @bnsz8704
    @bnsz8704 Год назад +2

    So Japan is the bets region at Ultimate because none of them play melee? Whereas a lot of the US players who could be really good at ultimate play melee

    • @kingintox5743
      @kingintox5743 Год назад

      There is some pretty decent Japanese melee players, but after the initial wave of melee, their community died down relative to North America since people could actually win money in NA as opposed to Japan. Wasn’t until more recently that Japan got back into Smash as a whole.

    • @jakefromstatefarm6969
      @jakefromstatefarm6969 Год назад

      ​@@kingintox5743I wouldn't say that. Japan was huge in the brawl scene and still big in smash 4.
      And I also wouldn't say japan is the best region for ultimate, but that depends on how you measure 'best' and what counts as a region.

  • @bregghaines1656
    @bregghaines1656 Год назад +2

    Meteor smashes are so goddamn stupid. Melee would be so much better without them

  • @Phentem2
    @Phentem2 Год назад +2

    FELLAS

  • @algumnomeaihehe
    @algumnomeaihehe Год назад +1

    on the subject of reads, the two examples given feel the same to me except the EV of each decision is different.
    source: never played this series in my life

    • @royalrick1
      @royalrick1 Год назад

      Yeah, a better example would simply be "Reads" are educated guesses based on what you've seen/noticed from the opponent (ex: You noticed your opponent spotdodges a lot, so you predict that and charge an attack to wait it out), whereas "Guesses" are just doing something and hoping it works (ex: doing the previous example, but without knowing they spotdodge a lot so you're just doing it to see if it'll work)

    • @jakefromstatefarm6969
      @jakefromstatefarm6969 Год назад

      Read is based off of previous interactions, or knowledge about a players habits or human habits in general; basically an educated guess. A guess doesn't use prior knowledge.
      It's the same difference between playing me in poker vs playing a poker professional.

  • @andymcclurg9916
    @andymcclurg9916 Год назад

    Comments React to "Coney's Titles Have CHANGED"

  • @SonicTheCutehog
    @SonicTheCutehog Год назад

    Big Neck Falco has a worst hurtbox than Bowser

  • @sydneywest1623
    @sydneywest1623 Год назад

    Just watched this few days ago

  • @ThatRedHusky
    @ThatRedHusky Год назад

    I see you have plinkers in your chat. Based.

  • @500superrich
    @500superrich Год назад +1

    I thought G&W was the best because he was the last to be unlocked.

  • @eternallyspoopy2238
    @eternallyspoopy2238 4 месяца назад +1

    if it sends down and it’s not falco or marth (in NTSC 1.02) then it’s a meteor that can be cancelled

  • @byrontheusurper6505
    @byrontheusurper6505 Год назад +1

    I wanna start melee and play bowser!

  • @Caw50
    @Caw50 4 месяца назад

    Ive heard that snake hitbox thing from brawl is just a rumor but im not positive

  • @thedankhold8443
    @thedankhold8443 Год назад +2

    Coney is spreading misinformation. In Ultimate, you can interrupt falco's "hands off my prey" taunt before the last word with a down smash and he will tell you to not sexually molest him.

    • @jjwang7597
      @jjwang7597 Год назад +7

      You should watch the last 5 seconds of the video

    • @thedankhold8443
      @thedankhold8443 Год назад +1

      I don't want to, how about that?

  • @rodrigomorales6111
    @rodrigomorales6111 Год назад

    Why not do a recap of ultimate bc5?

  • @Fireshot844
    @Fireshot844 Год назад

    S2J has been playing Falcon since before he S’d any J’s

  • @adinv9257
    @adinv9257 Год назад

    I think you had a dream

  • @gyisdoingstuff9561
    @gyisdoingstuff9561 Год назад

    the era of classic coney titles is dead...

  • @ry-x
    @ry-x Год назад

    why do the titles look like that ☹️

  • @pizus4823
    @pizus4823 Год назад +1

    Dude I wouldn't wanna play on PAL either. Imagine inadvertently buffing Jigglypuff by making every top tier weaker

    • @jakefromstatefarm6969
      @jakefromstatefarm6969 Год назад

      Best option is to play NTSC but mod in all the good PAL changes. Mostly buffing low tiers but leaving the high tiers unchanged. (Except for falcons gentleman pls fix)

  • @sharlockshacolmes9381
    @sharlockshacolmes9381 4 месяца назад

    Smashers :
    - don’t want to play the fixed version of their game because their main is nerfed (despite still being top tier)
    - ban certain stages from tourneys because « it’s not totally flat so I can whiff my moves or miss DI »
    - ask to ban certain characters because « they’re too good » even after it’s proven that you just need to learn the matchup
    - Have Leffen
    Smashers are just the ADCs of the fighting game community

  • @SsjkidsSaveCosmo08
    @SsjkidsSaveCosmo08 Год назад

    Its true, fouten of dreams lacks like crazy 💀

  • @lostsauce911
    @lostsauce911 Год назад

    Who murdered melee

  • @behnzo1988
    @behnzo1988 Год назад

    Smash

  • @DSmith3279
    @DSmith3279 Год назад

    #LegalizeWarioWare

  • @dmandamen6719
    @dmandamen6719 Год назад

    Yooo

  • @Xxblade17
    @Xxblade17 Год назад

    Aye

  • @superjumpbros64
    @superjumpbros64 Год назад

    Oiii

  • @Ewokpenguin
    @Ewokpenguin Год назад +1

    Possibly first?

  • @chknrsandTBBTROX73
    @chknrsandTBBTROX73 Год назад

    The first half of this video gave me deja vu.

  • @oisinduggan8944
    @oisinduggan8944 Год назад

    What is it with smash pros and looking like mutants?