How Did Frasier Wind up Dating Captain Picard?
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- Опубликовано: 17 дек 2019
- Ah, Dr. Frasier Crane. A man who wears short shorts to a gay bar, who has gay friends and coworkers, who enjoys stereotypically gay hobbies. But how’s his gaydar? Well, it turns out that’s a bit of a blind spot for him, which is how, in 2003, he wound up dating Captain Picard.
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Gay, straight, something in between, I think we would all flirt with Patrick Stewart, given the opportunity
Without hesitation.
Nini L absolutely 😊
Do yourself a favor and look up pics of "young patrick stewart" and prepare to get knocked out of your seat
@@MattBaume I have and my heart could barely take it.
The I Claudius Patrick Stewart is a treat of him in his youth so much so that my old highschool history club teacher added an additional advisory warning for him alongside the graphic content slips.
i remember watching this with my dad (now passed) and he said. "Frasier should just go for it, guys perfect for him"
my dad was very awesome
Awww that's actually really sweet!
@@MattBaume he was always really supportive to the LGBTQ community, he knew people who had kicked their children out for being gay, and it bothered him how parents could be so heartless. when i finally told him the truth about myself. he was very supportive and accepting. i know i got lucky when it came to accepting parents, espcially when i came out gay marriage wasn't legal and people were way more intolorant and in your face about it. all
@@CrypticCharm I'm a bisexual, my father was self admittedly Homo -phobic, but he disliked false personas. Effected voices and what he deemed "Flakey. " I dreaded bringing my boyfriend home, but after dinner, my Dad said "I like him, you're a good match. He speaks his mind. He's handsome and intelligent. Better than that daft girl you dated. He was very supportive which surprised me.
@@joegrimes9232 i'm also bisexual, and even though i knew i had accepting parents, coming out was still an issue. It was 1997. i was 17 and the world was so different back then, and their reaction just surprised me. and some others who I thought wouldn't have an issue really did, and I lost a lot of people I thought were friends. living your truth really teaches you a lot about people, but kudos to your dad being accepting.
This is so wholesome. Thank you for sharing this sweet memory
The real crime was not having them as an end-game couple. I know it was the 90’s, but still. They had amazing chemistry together and it always felt like we were gipped.
It would have been such a great series finale. End on a gay wedding, you cowards!
'End on a gay wedding, you cowards!' Is my mantra from now on. Shadowhunters did it, and hopefully Shameless (US) will too!
Easy on that last word; that one's a _mite_ problematic itself...
@@christopherb501 You know, I never knew the origin of that word until now. Good looking out!
Plot twist for the reboot.
“He thinks I’M gay and I’m standing next to my pregnant wife!”
There had to be some humor in that statement to David Hyde Pierce
This episode has a lot of LAYERS around DHP's real-life sexuality, but it's hard to talk about since he wasn't really publicly out at the time so it's something that wouldn't really have been a part of the text as received by audiences. Still, I wonder how he felt about the whole episode and in particular that line.
Matt Baume Right? Like, it must’ve been strange for him to do episodes like this since I’m pretty sure he came out after the show’s run
@@heath6802 he did, he came out in 2008 the moment he won a Tony Award (finally) he thanks his partner (now husband) Brian. and it's stunning.here it is ruclips.net/video/kw6yqCHyy-g/видео.html
^Thanks! I didn't know Pierce was gay even when I started bingeing Frasier over the years after it aired.
For a bit I figured people were just saying he was gay due to stereotyping and not separating him from Niles lol.
@@MattBaume should ask DHP for an interview. Also just found the channel, big frasier fan and love your break down for the episodes. Makes me think about them differently now.
"You turn my head, sir." is possibly the sexiest thing ever.
It is SUCH a good flirt. I'd melt if someone used that one me.
I bet Patrick Stewart could deliver that cheesy "did hurt when you fell from heaven" line, and it would still have class.
@@youmaboi5279 True enough!
Classy. As. Balls.
WHICH head? ;oP
"Sir Patrick was a big deal at this time"
Matt. Sir Patrick is a big deal at any and all times!
Watch I Claudius, where he plays Sejanus. He schemes to become Emperor but is betrayed. The acting is wonderful. Brian Blessed stole the show though as Augustus. A man spiralling into madness. It's like Game of Thrones, but Robert Baratheon going from hero to disillusioned despot. This was before Blessed shouted for a living. It was such a riviting performance. When he discovers his daughter is sleeping around and calls her lovers in to judge them. Brilliant.
Exactly
"On a Tuesday. Who has the time?" Perfect point.
I mean the only way it could be a more time-consuming outfit to get into is if it was furry night
@@MattBaume leather furry night, fursona in leather gear.
Frasier is bi now because these are the rules I just made up.
I mean, he's at least a 2 if he considered Bertolucci
This is why the split attraction model is so damn important. One can be gay or bi one way and straight another way or even just not into anythin some ways.
Biromantic Heterosexual.
@@SylviaRustyFae hey that's true. He did seem to properly enjoy the actual dates - it was purely the idea of sex that put him off.
That's what I love about Sir Patrick Stewart, he's so comfortable with his sexuality that he was one of the first TV and movie stars who played gay characters.
@R J Holcomb somehow I forgot how great those two are as friends
to hear "sorry my angel" while currently obsessed with good omens was just too much
I am stoked with the number of people who want to go chubby angelic middle-aged Michael Sheen like the clappers. So much for gay body fascism.... and then, of course, there's über-skinny David Tennant. They're both adorable (with extremely sexy RL accents to boot). Having always envisioned the pair as thinly-fictionalised versions of Gaiman and Pratchett (at the time of publication) I think the casting apple didn't fall too far from the tree. Very satisfactory.
@@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494 I know this is an old post but I was going to find out that the books have the character is never really being skinny at least while the book is going on. And of course writers are all like yeah it's pretty gay LOL. Being that their life partners they also pointed out that the characters are pretty much asexually made but if they tried LOL. I thought it was cute because I'm asexual myself. Of course Neil Gaiman has Johnny Depp in the Mindl as Crowley and someone like the guy that play Lockhart in Harry Potter as Azariphel.( yeah I probably butchered that name. ) I don't watch the show but I was a part of the book fandom. I believe it was Terry who said it best that he wasn't writing another book because anything that they could write wouldn't do it justice that the fandom owns it now.
@@christyshultz6443 Terry was awesome - he got it. Miss him😞
The thing about Frasier is that many of the creative people, writers, directors, etc... were gay.
As is discussed on this very channel. Matt does a great job of research.
and they stil had to hide their sexual orientation even the 3 gay actors playing in the show had t be quite because it was still a huge risk to lose their jobs over it ridiculous
@@exchangediary968 ok well besides that, I never could really understand what the show is supposed to be. Frazier is a strange guy that I don’t understand at all. Why does he talk so strange, is it a dialect, or what. Why is he a brilliant psychologist or whatever, but he also has anxious melt-downs, even at the home set, I don’t get how he walks around arguing and shouting with his brother. I don’t get the character at all, lol. Someone want to explain it? What does his character represent?
Not to mention David Hyde Pierce, of course! I may have had a slight crush on Niles, but I couldn't tell if my gaydar was mere wishful thinking. 😂
"he is a sex model"
**Shows Patrick in a lobster outfit**
... I agree
Pinch pinch
@@MattBaume Some would say "he's delicious" or a "dish".
It's an interesting plot hole that Niles never ever wears shorts to their games. He always wears pants.
Clearly those shorts belonged to some trick he didn't want to tell Frasier about
I would absolutely melt if I saw Sir Patrick Stewart in the wild too
A friend of mine once saw him at a rooftop bar in LA and bought him a drink -- whiskey, I think? I probably would have just started crying
@@MattBaume I wouldn't be able to form words, I'd just cry
And he called you his angel. Ooooh.
@@MattBaume Did your friend say "Whiskey? I'll make it so" 🤣🤣 Love Sir Patrick and my fave ever frasier episode!
We just saw this episode for the umpteenth time the other day, one of my all-time faves, no doubt. "Damn my fatal allure!" So many amazing one-liners.
Are Frasier t-shirts a thing? That line could work as a Frasier t-shirt
@@MattBaume I know this is old *but* I could ask my mother to design one. She'd been doing graphics for her non-profit then one day I mentioned on the phone, "There's no flag or symbol for my stuff ANYWHERE in the rainbow!" Next thing you know she's knocking out her own take and designing tons of other regalia.
Then *boom* they were flying off the shelves - requests from all corners.
(This was around the time SCOTUS went through)
Long story short- my mother would definitely do so with pride (no pun intended).
I kinda wish I had this "magical gay fashion sense." Did I spend all my attribute points on magical gay charisma instead of looks and fashion sense?
It's truly like rolling a D&D character. You can have high gay charisma but that might mean strength is your dump stat
@@MattBaume sounds like the race traits for a twink. :P
Uggh I got neither.
I guess being bi/pan gets you a different stat block? But my stats suck terribly other than puns. I end up with automatic puns. People think I'm far more clever than I am. 😹
I'm basically a clean goblin who has puns.
Funny how most of us don't meet the stereotypes, eh? I'm a "jeans and tee shirt guy," most days. And the fact that I can even pass for being fashionable at all, has way more to do with my inheriting my mother's good taste in clothes and home decor. My husband, on the other, has had me pick out his outfits, for any special events, for the last 20 years now. 😆
Even though beeing gay I went wild with random dice thrown at character creation and got full skillset of geek and that's just it xD
"...until Ellen..." It's so weird. In my head, Frazier seems like a much more recent show than Ellen. (Probably because it's constantly being rerun on local stations so it's never left my consciousness, but still.)
Frasier ran for five or six years longer than Ellen, so it certainly stuck around longer. I do think it's a lot more rerun-friendly, too.
The type of atmosphere/humor is also much more dated on Ellen than on Frasier imho. Other than the occasional old cell phone or tube tv/monitor, it still feels very recent. I'd say the same of Friends vs Seinfeld.
@@shahmask Frasier doesn’t really seem connected to his own time very much - even Talk Radio is still doing quite well, thank you, despite all the changes to the media landscape over the past thirty years. It might also help that it’s extremely clear what Ellen is doing now, and that she’s not that sitcom person any more.
Just last night, I finished watching the entire Frasier series with my (gay) teenage son, and we both agreed that the whole series was wonderful. Episodes like this gave us chances to laugh and share knowing smiles at each other, which breaks tension and keeps openness...well, open.
It's a great family show, since the dynamic between the Crane family is, at its heart, very affectionate.
Niles joke "He may not be the only one giving up his seat tonight" is still my favorite joke in the show
That joke was the best! I still get goosebumps thinking about the amazing writing of Frasier. I gotta say that "The Doctor is Out" along with "The Ski Lodge" are two of my favorite episodes of any sitcom, EVER!
@@goldvideo Fun fact: Joe Keenan (who is gay) wrote both episodes, as well as season 2's The Matchmaker.
@@piousl Yes, I was aware of that. Thanks for mentioning it though.
I'd turn gay for Captain Picard too, and I'm a woman...
Cass Lyris ditto ditto ditto
Just seems like an unnessecary extra step to me :P
@@bananamanchester4156 In the real world, yes.
Which would make you turning gay rather pointless LOL - Patrick might date a gay man; he might date a straight woman; but a gay woman? I think not 🤣
From what I hear, Sir Patrick has always been a bit of a hound dog so you probably wouldn't have to turn gay.
"He thinks im gay and i am standing next to my pregnant wife" whatta line
you've literally made me watch Frasier with an adult brain kudos to that
Your adult brain will thank you.
Patrick Stewart makes a glorious ally.
Wait- Gil is gay?? But he has that wife with the auto body shop!
Ahahaha I thought about including that line! But it's from a different episode and I just couldn't find a good place to put it so it's on the cutting room floor. Maybe in the future!
gxtmfa it was an in joke for several seasons, he does eventually come out
I thought Deb was his cat.
@@amehak1922 no he doesnt
A proud Sarah Lawrence graduate!
Hey Matt! Straight, white southerner here. Just wanted to say I found your channel from this video in particular. Huge Frasier fan myself and practically grew up on it. It was a whole different world than my own and it's great to see someone different from myself view and talk about this show in a way that is meaningful to them. From one Frasier fan and TV watcher to another, keep up the good work and for what it's worth, I appreciate what you are doing!
P.S. I saw you post a quick snippet of Mr. Humphries in your "A Salute to Sissies" episode. I'd personally watch a whole episode on him/ John Inman. Love Are You Being Served. Thanks again!
Side note: I find it funny that the algorithm can't distinguish what I watch from what ads run. I always leave conservative ads running, so they have to pay my lefty friends.
Haha thank you, it's much appreciated!
RUclips's monumentally stupid.
And...that's a really good point. Guess I should do that from now on.
I honestly never thought of it that way.
We were robbed of a wedding here! I bet if Fraiser managed to go a little longer, the finale would’ve been a reunion with Alistair followed by an epic run to the marriage office.
Plus I’m such a huge fan of Sir Patrick. He exudes class and power in everything he shows up in!
Every time I watch this episode I have this wistful unfulfilled fantasy of Frasier just going for it with Allistair. I'm like come on just try you'll totally like it.
One of my favorites. Niles and Fraiser are hilarious. I guess Nigel isn't the only one giving up his seat tonight !
One of the best lines of the entire series.
Watching this, it is staggering how ahead of its time Golden Girls actually was.
Someone once tried to insult me by saying i was a Patrick Stewart looking Bitch, and honestly it was the nicest thing i could imagine LOL
I'd never seen this episode! By the end of your video their chemistry was actually shippable
checking AO3 for frasier/alistair fic right now
I swear Sir Patrick is channeling Sir Ian in this episode :)
I already knew most of lines you'd use as I've binge watched Frasier for years lol. It's always been on somewhere for the past 15 years which seems crazy as it's later episodes like these feel so recent.
Stewart's performance is always a delight as he seems like he's having so much fun and is actually toying with Frasier haha.
Speaking of Torchwood/Doctor Who, have you done any analysis of the gay characters and how they developed in that series?
Not yet but it's on my list!
@@MattBaume - There's a lot to unpack there! There have been jokes/implications that The Doctor has been gay, female (even before the current Doctor), etc, since the 2005 comeback. See also Torchwood and Captain Jack, who was written as pansexual from the beginning. And it goes without saying there have been openly gay & lesbian characters in recent years - even partnered and portrayed as happy & 'normal'.
@@RichardTheBigBunny The standard belief of the Doctor (in general) is that he/she/they has always been at least panromantic. Dipping to one side or the other, in inclinations, off and on throughout the series run.
As a life long Dr. Who nerd Vastra and Jenny are one of my favorite lesbian couples depicted in media!! I have dome some analysis of the difference in story lines specifically comparing Doctor Who and Torchwood. I think it was really great how they used some of that to their advantage; they were by no means perfect, but they certainly used their platform to create some amazing side characters.
Implied lesbian characters on Doctor Who go back at least to the 1978 serial The Stones of Blood.
"Niles hides behind a magazine called 'Naked Guys Review', boy I wish that were real!"
In Montréal there is a free gay porn periodical that I have seen given out in gay shops, bars, and even certain restaurants in the gay village. It's on a rack at the entrance! Now I get that it was placed outside as a joke, but I would think that being placed outside would be impractical with Seattle's rain!
Haha that's a good point, all of the mailboxes are definitely enclosed here in Seattle!
The captain Jean Luc Picard song was playing in my head this entire episode
I just got into Frasier recently and as a bisexual trans guy who's mainly into other men when watching the show I always got bisexual vibes from fraiser but maybe that's just wishful thinking. Ah well, another great episode. Maybe you could do one about Mac on it's always sunny in Philadelphia. They had a great episode about him coming out as the season 13 finale, when the rest of the gang tried to use his sexuality to show they're for gay people and his found father frank tries to make him accept himself in ways that are not right for him. The episode ends with him coming out to his biological father the way he wants and when his father rejects him, frank accepts him for who he is and "finally gets it". The scene is beautiful and made me cry especially with how my parents finally accept my bisexuality but don't accept me being trans yet.
Yes that dance scene in Always Sunny is SO GOOD
@@MattBaume the dance was gorgeous. If I had a TV 101 class, I’d show it! ❤️
“I’d probably melt if I saw Patrick Stuart in the wild.” Wouldn’t we all?
Thanks for the recommendation to find a young Patrick Stewart.
He played Mr Thornton on North and South.
He's so pretty in a frockcoat.
His voice has always been amazing.
i've seen that, but he has hair and i found that strange!
Not gonna lie I'd waited so long for you to cover this episode! It's my all time favourite Frasier and alongside discovering the band Placebo was the moment I realised I wasn't 100% straight. I fell for Sir Pat a little bit when I first saw the episode because he acted like such a warm and well adjusted person (I would even make jokes to my friends about how I'd long to have him be my sugar gran-daddy lol).
That episode of Frasier made me feel so good. Thanks for your evaluation of it.
Some of this episode harkens back to one from 1996, "The Impossible Dream", in which Frasier has a recurring dream of being in bed with Gil Chesterton, and starts to worry that he's gay. I apologize if you've talked about that episode and I missed it, but on the bright side I want to watch all your videos so I'm sure I'll catch it eventually.
It's also interesting that, as a spinoff, Frasier continued and expanded on Cheers which also featured gay characters and gay themes. Your comment on depictions of gay bars reminded me of a 1983 Cheers episode, "The Boys In The Bar", in which some of the gang worry that Cheers might turn into a gay bar. The gay characters are invisible until the end, but a funny thing is the real joke is the straight guys' discomfort. Anyway it's a reminder that many bars weren't initially "gay bars" but were bars that welcomed, or at least accepted, gay patrons.
Yes! I talked a bit about that earlier Frasier episode in last month's video -- there's a link in the description.
thanks for your take on frasier. i never really saw it for how progressive it was in terms of LGBTQ representation and its debunking of gay stereotypes (who has these traits? who doesnt? who really knows). frasier and niles have traits and likes that makes people think they are gay. They are also aware of how people look at them - yet they never changed who they are or are apologetic/embarassed over who they are. they never tried to stop liking operas or talking about their feelings incessantly or dressing posh in order to appear more "hetero", because appearance can never really determine one's own sexuality. in fact, from the episode "The Doctor is Out", it even spells out common gay stereotypes established in the show to be something admirable, even enviable to Frasier and Niles - successful in the world of art, exquisite taste in music & cuisine, luxurious lifestyle, enjoyable personalities.
it's my favorite show of all times and im glad that from a young age, i have been taught to have these positive normalized image of the LGBT from the show (along with Friends, to some extent). where i'm from, homosexuality is still openly frowned upon, but im glad that i could be exposed to a better perspective through these shows.
One of my favorite episodes of Frasier, for many reasons.
I've seen every Frasier episode and always loved this one, but still learned a lot here. Thanks for this.
This is my favorite Frasier episode!
if anyone is a Patrick Stewart fan, I highly recommend get his audiobook “Make it So” I recommend the audiobook because of course it’s narrated by him. It is an amazing story of his life in theater and film. Absolutely wonderful.
You just reminded me how much I miss the show _Torchwood._ I can't wait for Culture Cruise to cover that show!
I've got a lot of catching up to do on that one! What's a good place to jump in?
@@MattBaume the doctor who series 1 finale that explains Jack's condition. I can't wait for you to discuss torchwood, especially jack and ianto's relationship
This is one of my favorite episodes of Frasier.
Great rehash of the season 2 episode "The Matchmaker." I thought Frasier was dead after season 7, but 11 salvaged it the best it could
The shark had definitely been jumped by that point with stuff like Niles and Daphne's romance. But since so many of the original creatives were still there -- unlike the Simpsons, for example -- it retained its humor and heart all the way through. In the end I think 11 years is just too long for a show like Frasier to run -- there are only so many jokes!
We had the best gay bar in the 80's/90's in my hometown in Germany. Many times nobody could tell if people in there where "gay" or "straight". The men and women in that bar didn't care what you are. I loved this place and lots of people in my hometown were crushed when the owner died in a car accident. After that the place was not the same anymore.
I have seen more gays in my hometown in the 80's and 90's than nowadays. We were more colorful and open than we are now. My hometown turned out to be more conservative in the 21st century than it was in the my youth.
Another great review you’re the reason I’m giving a lot of shows I have never liked as a child a chance
Aw that's awesome. They really are different when you come back to them as an adult! Let me know if there are any others I should cover!
Same! Between this and the podcast Gayest Episode Ever, I've discovered a lot that I missed.
@@MattBaume well there's will and grace but mainly the one episode can't remember the name where Grace thinks she turned another guy gay the guy was asleep in bed with will and jack after jack found out his birth father he was looking for had past before meeting him basically the guy was comforting jack but don't know if that falls in line with gay cruise rules
I'd date Patrick Stewart or his bestie, Ian McKellen in a heartbeat XD
10:54 "Is it perfect? No" harkens back to Osgood's "Nobody's Perfect" in Some Like It Hot.
this was a great episode, one of my favorites.
Jeffrey is still one of my favorite queer movies, it was one of the first I saw as a baby gay in the 90s. I still quote it, especially Patrick Stewart's lines as Sterling. Patrick is such a treasure ❤️
Bad Billy's couldn't be a gay bar!! There aren't any ferns.
This episode and the the ski lodge one are my favorites! I could watch them back to back over and over and laugh just as hard each time
I also love his bathtub lobster picture.
The end reminds of the end of some like it hot. "nobody's perfect!"
i love this series so much. looking forward to the next one!
I loved this episode so much lol
It's written by Joe Keenan, who did all the best Frasier farce episodes. He's amazing.
@@MattBaume Written by Joe Keenan who is gay and directed by David lee who is gay.David lee also wrote the DR.Nora episode of Fraiser which for a time was taken out of the rerun loop I'm guessing from pressure by the phony dr.laura and her lawyers
Matt love your channel and this was my favorite Frasier of all time , so well done and Patrick Stewart taking on the role like a natural thank you for reliving the good shows I lost my will and grace cant seem to recover , but thank you for such a great show.
I love your reviews and analysis. One of my favorite so far
Never clicked like so fast in my life!!
Aww shucks thank you!!!
Ah yes, another Frasier analysis 👌👌
I love doing these so much!
I LOVED this episode when I was a kid. Thanks for the reminder. I need to watch show again.
It's one of those sitcoms that really rewards multiple viewings.
I still would love to see you talk about Mr. Humphries from Are You Being Served?, which was surprisingly popular in the US in the 80s-90s on PBS. Would you consider it? Thanks
This was great, thank you for creating this!
I just wanted to say how much I enjoy your videos!
Aww thanks so much! (And tell your friends!)
" _I'd wish I could meet that Jean-Luc._ "
Is what comes to mind watching this x3
I LOVE THAT VIDEO
These always brighten my day and feed. Thank you ^^
Aww yay glad to bring you brightness!
@@MattBaume It is really enlightening to see the history of Queer representation on TV. I will probably never watch most of the shows you cover because sitcoms are not my thing, but they are popular for a reason. I love your analysis and insights.
I'd forgotten how much I love this episode! Thanks Matt!
Still no mention of, It's All Relative," about two gay dads raising a daughter who is engaged to a man from a homophobic, South Boston family. I love the men for being strong and proud of their own sense of family. That show never gets mentioned.
It'll be 3 am in NZ when it premieres .... better set my alarm then🙂🙂
I hope you were able to make it for the premiere! Let me know if you have a preferred time if I use that feature again.
@@MattBaume thanks matt, unfortunately i was called on for berry picking and have only now been able to get to my phone. Im just greatful for the upload!! Keeping doing what you do ❤❤❤
I just wondered into your channel but love your take on this episode of Frasier with "Capt. Picard."
What about that one episode with the late actor Brian Bedford whom was Disney's foxy outlaw Robin Hood. ;3
I covered that one too! ruclips.net/video/ivFa0F-qvjE/видео.html
This episode was the reason that I thought Patrick Stewart was gay as a little girl. I still remember when upon finding out the contrary as a teen being disappointed as he would have made a pretty cool gay icon. Thanks for the videos Matt, they are both humorous as well as a comfort.
That was such a fun episode! I remember it well!
Awesome vid!, loved it! I adore Frasier I probably rewatched it into the ground (wish there was a blu-ray release) and this is definitely a fav episode.
Weird that it's not available on disc! I guess those days are behind us, though. Either way, it was shot on film so an HD remaster would be nice.
@@MattBaume well I do have it on DVD but they could fit far more episodes on blu- ray and maybe give it a nice quality boost if restored properly.
Still glad I have it at least on something :)
9:25-9:30 😂😂the lobster suit in that context I’m sorry I can’t
when Frasier think about Bertolucci's villa ... so close to be happy, but =)
Thanks for uploading.
Great video, as usual. I always enjoy getting your insight and perspective on lgbt+ representation in TV throughout the decades.
Happy Christmas :)
That sailor outfit + plus you chatting about my fave shows funniest moments....chile, SUBSCRIBED!!🥂✅
yay jeffrey mention I was thinking that movie might not get mentioned.. neat video.. cheers 😄
I know it is soon, but would love to Matt react to Brooklyn 99.
did you ever watch Buffy? how do you feel about Joss Whedon's depictions of gay characters. Consider how Willow was loved and accepted, but in the later seasons, when they brought in "The Trio" they were constantly making gay jokes, and running down Andrew, who was trapped in the closet because of his friends. Andrew continued to get hounded and made fun of after joining "the good guys". Oddly enough the only person who didn't treat Andrew badly for being gay was Spike.
Loooooooove Buffy♥️🙏🏽
well Spike and Angel had that "one time" together. however Andrew is totally out in the comics, or as i've been told. the one that really bothered me was the episode Phases when classmate Larry comes out to Xander and his jerk jock persona is just an act. he later comes out for real and is so much happier for it. and then he;s killed off at graduation. cheers Joss
Also, apparently the creators intended to have either willow or xander be the one that was gay.
@@werlost isn't it really cliche having the wiccan a lesbian. Like all sprit one with gia and blessed be
@@CrypticCharm I agree about Larry, I forgot about him, and killing him at graduation was a huge wasted potential.
No one mentions that bowl of balls in every human shade at that dinner party.
Those things were EVERYWHERE for a decade and I have no idea why -- or why the set decorator thought they would make the apartment seem like it belonged to a rich person???
OMG I kept seeing flashes of them and thinking "tribbles? Wait, no, wrong series."
I mean out of all the reasons to Out someone he had a decent reason to protecting his friends he didn’t really plan to out him publicly only to make sure his friend wasn’t being used as a beard
At least, without her knowing. It would be one thing if he was gay and roz knew and was being a beard out of choice.
This was excellent. Thank you.
my favorite sitcom...
I totally want that dog painting.
I KNOW RIGHT??? I desperately want more information about where it came from.
One of my favorite episodes!
Loving these vids!
It's nice to see something so reflective and even a little celebratory in the discussion of mainstream depictions of queer people and culture. We mostly talk about how mainstream culture fails, which is fair cause it does, but still your videos are refreshing.
I want to rewatch Frasier now!
One of the funniest episodes, that's a great episode
It's just SO smart and clever. I'd love to see it as a little one-act play on stage -- it would work so well.
I HAD TO REWIND THE VIDEO WHEN YOU MENTIONED TOCHWOOD and re-see john barrowman becausee i looooove him so much
Yay! I'm glad Torchwood got a mention!