If I may add. There’s also a noticeable difference in each faction. Barely anything stays the same between them. Even the basic infantry and resource buildings change depending on what faction you’re playing. Polania has rifleman, Rusviet has shotgunners, and Saxony has sub machine gunners.
@@adorabomber123 Not at all, I would always encourage someone to share their thoughts - best way for potential new players to make a decision, more knowledge is always better!
I know a few others pointed it out, but I wanted to clarify that the term "Steampunk" implies a setting with Victorian Era themes (Europe in the late 1800s). Once you start getting into the era of WW1 and WW2, the genre is called "Dieselpunk" because technology is fueled by oil and combustion instead of steam power. They're basically the same genre, just in different time periods!
Thanks for pointing that out! Yes a few people have mentioned that now, kicked myself when I realised, and making sure I get the distinction right going forward. Feedback is always appreciated!
I would still contend steampunk is somewhat of a valid way to describe Iron Harvest. The WW1 time period kind of straddles the 19th and 20th centuries, at least culturally/technologically.
oh my god how is your channel so underrated the mic quality it insane and the review tells me everything i need to know about the game to make an informed purchase. thank you so much for this review.
Thank you for your kind words - it's this sort of comment that keeps me going! I'm glad you found the review useful, I hope you find the future videos useful too. I'm putting together a video for Frostpunk as I picked it up in the sale and it's actually an amazing game haha Thank you again :)
@@ambassadorbarak2884 I'm flattered - maybe one day but for now I'm a teeny tiny channel! Welcome aboard, if you ever want me to look at a specific games feel free to let me know!
@@twiglets2 most definitely iron harvest maynot be for me though but im hearing good things about Starhip troopers Terran command im a fan of Homeworld games so i cant wait one the new game to come by winter time and of course COH3
Great review, this should really be an industry standard. Not biased and its covers everything I want to know before buying the game without going to in depth.
Thank you for the feedback, the only reason I mentioned it is due to a precious comment such as this, I'll be sure to focus more on performance in the future. Is there a specific part of performance you would find it useful to focus on?
@@insomnolant6043 to be fair most of the RTS games have terrible pathfinding even now. I remember watching interview with guys from Westwood who worked on Tiberian Sun and they jokingly said that they didn't try to make smart AI, only AI that works... somehow, because apparently they had lot of issues with AI pathfinding on that game and deadline was closing in, so it was a miracle that game shipped in playable state (AI wise). However from what I remember it was actually quite buggy game on lunch, and back then you had to wait for those magazines to give you patch CDs. Good times. 😆
My opinion is YES, it is worth it the campaign in my opinion is so good and for my first rts game that I had ever played it was so easy. Only now do I know how other rts games work, just because of Iron Harvest. Definitely a beginner rts game, but also great for pro players. And the art OMG IT IS GREAT. Btw Scythe the board game Iron Harvest is made out of is also great, not just in my opinion but it is one of the most top rated board games in the world!
Oh yeah o have to know comment that with trying to get almost every GODDAMN achievement in the game it ain't such an easy game after all, but I already got 90% of missions ready and about 40k Iron Harvest Coins
As soon as I heard your voice I subscribed. I know that sounds weird, but man, it’s really soothing. Obviously, I stayed subscribed after watching your review and thoroughly enjoying it. I really like your review style with the quick summary at the beginning, and then digging down into the details. I really wish you the best, and hope your channel keeps growing.
That's very nice of you to say so my friend, the support means a lot! If you think of any other games that could do with this kind of review, please let me know :)
@@twiglets2 Yes, it's a bit nostalgic as well since it kinda reminds me of the old dawn of war campaigns and the Battle for middle earth's War of the ring
Okay I literally just learned today that this existed. I always loved the board game, and the aethstetic of it and always kind of hoped they would make something else off of it that expanded on the world, low and behold they already have.
the only reason that the mechs are smaller then the art work is game limitations and so your pc doesn’t go nuclear. (Also good video) Just my opinion though.
Very good review Another note on defenses like barbed wire and sandbags. They can be trampled and instantly destroyed by mechs or shot to pieces by enemy canons. It takes a time to build them so I found it hardly ever is worth it. And the bunkers take up the few and valuable population points. Wish that got some revisjon
Thank you! And thanks for the points on barbed wire etc, I'm glad it's not just me as I found them relatively useless too, a shame really but then I guess some like a fluid battle, I quite like creating a solid defence! Perhaps they thought a defensive game would make it boring to watch on the esports scene, I'm sure I've heard of RTS developers concentrating on attack attack attack to make the games more entertaining to watch.
@@twiglets2 yeah if that's the case it's certainly a fair consideration for multiplayer. But I like setting up defences too haha. Especially since there are multiple missions where you are meant to hold off waves it sucks that all the prep you can make is create a unit blob on the front line
The game is truly phenomenal. Honestly, world's better than trashy, tacky, restrictive Halo Wars 2. Definitely far better story and lore with far, far richer character depth of the story characters. Multiple factions with distinctly different units even if the same class with some having specific functional alterations such as Polania's mobile mortar mech that doubles as a turret box for infantry types, while no other faction has that. Meanwhile, Usonia has strong air power slightly moreso than the rest. Rusviet has great affordable melee mechs in general, but have overall higher oil costs across the board.
So what's bad about halo wars 2? I played the first one multiple times (and still at it) I recently downloaded halo wars 2. But before I play I want to know is it good like the first halo wars or bad? Please detail me
Yes, it has a world conquest mode now. Its dieselpunk, there are no steam engines. Company of Heroes is itself a copy of Desert Rats vs Afrika Corps. The real OG game.
@dozilla77 you're welcome, hope it was useful. Iron harvest was a disappointment on release but for that kind of money you're are getting a decent rts campaign, an average company of heroes style skirmish mode, a reasonably fun challenge/horde mode and a small world map mode. Not a bad deal at all!
The last one I played was Red Alert 2 Yuri's revenge (a casual 15 years ago!) I've heard the later C&C games were downhill from there, would you say that's a fair assessment?
@@twiglets2 absolutely, EA bucheted the franchise and turned it into a mobile game! I hope to see the day when an RTS can tople those that were made almost 3 decades now because everything I've played since doesnt even come close bro
@@JustMyOpinion- A mobile game?! Ah man that doesn't sound good, what a shame. I have the remastered C&C which I still need to give proper attention to. You've inspired me to reinstall it! Happy gaming
@@twiglets2 oh bro you should I play the C&C remaster at least once a day if i have the time! good community in steam also, we organise competitions and have many group chats, hope to see you in a lobby sometime (=
If you're interested in the DLC's here is a similar video on those - ruclips.net/video/7hQBW6s4A8A/видео.html It was difficult to not just say "this is the same as Company of Heroes" - to be fair there is more to Iron Harvest than that, but the games are VERY similar in their mechanics. Are you tempted to give it a try? Definitely wait for the sale as the discounts are significant, and you could pick up a bargain!
As someone who played this first just recently and still playing I think it gives well worth the content for your money especially with DLC. Campaigns are entertaining enough with its additional challenges/achievements and "World Map" scenarios are quite fun to play as well in additio to basic skirmish maps and MP. Not as great as Company of Heroes its mostly related to but still well worth playing for anyone who likes RTS games. Hopefully one day there would je sequel cause the game's alternative history dieselpunk world is quite interesting
Thank you for sharing your view. At the moment I would say the campaign is the strong point and the multiplayer / skirmish is the weak point for the game. Do you share that view?
@@twiglets2 well as someone who mainly plays just singleplayer its hard for me to judge Iron Harvest multiplayer compared to other RTS multiplayer 😅 but ye overall its not "amazing" RTS but still very good game that I hope will get sequel one day
@jor2416 Thank you! The game was disappointing on release but with the deep discounts these days I think it's a great buy for rts fans who enjoy a decent story
I got this a while ago on GOG in a sale as I was intrested. I am going to be playing it for the first time this weekend should be good :-) Seems all major issues are sorted now.
Best of luck! The story is decent, but if you get a chance I recommend checking out the world map mode. It still needs fleshing out in my opinion but makes a change from the skirmish mode once you're finished with the campaign. Let us know how it goes!
@@twiglets2 great I will do 😁 I also rather world map type games over just skirmish matches. You get the same experience as well as other stuff added to it. Same with Total War type games I love when they had total open world maps 😁
Hi, Liked your review, and currently the game on sale for 8.99 and with dlc for 15.56 usd on steam . do you think its worth it if I am a fan of C&C Generals and BFME2 .
Hello, I hope you found the review useful! C&C and BFME2 are quite different to Iron Harvest. The game is more like Company of Heroes if you've played that before? Less base building and more concentrating on fighting. I guess you could say it's similar to BFME 2 in that respect as that game only had one resource so you could concentrate on fighting. It's difficult to say for sure, but Iron Harvest does have a decent story with good cut scenes, so if you like an RTS campaign that will be a good reason to get the game. Whether you will long the multiplayer, I'm not so sure. Maybe check out some more detailed videos of multiplayer matches to see if you like the look of them. You basically run around capturing flags a lot and engaging the enemy from cover. I hope tha thelps!
@@twiglets2 I found it too complex. That is why I asked if you play as I found your RON tutorials are very helpful and entertaining. Keep up the great work.
Cannot seem to hear anything(or read) about artillery. Is there any long range bombardment from ground, or any call in strikes? Btw great content, explained very nicely! Considering buying the game🙂🙂🍻
Thank you - I hope you found the video useful! There's nothing exactly like that, though some of the bigger units have long range and big guns, I wouldn't describe those as your typical artillery. The Operation Eagle DLC brings in flying units, some of which can be used quite well for bombardment but probably not the behind enemy lines sort that you're thinking of
@@twiglets2 Looks like developers really wanted to put emphasis on front lines fighting, no defending, no digging up, no long range harassing, just pure micromanaging and pushing. Well, tbh, CoH still is more diverse comparing to IH.
@@2kee013 Yes I think so too. This is only a theory, but I think that RTS developers are often concerned that defending is boring to watch and they want both players to attack attack attack for entertainment value hoping that it will encourage an esports scene. Just a thought but it wouldn't surprise me if that's what the IH devs had in mind when making the game as there is basically no defending!
Do you know of any games on ps5 like airmech arena or orcs must die unchained? By that i mean rts games that you run around as a character and control your armys. Ive been depressed ever since they shut down
No way, did he actually?! He was definitely a highlight but damn does he like to run into the middle of a fight, I'm glad there's a whistle mechanic to pull him out of there!
I haven't tried it on console so it's difficult to say. RTS doesn't normally work well on console but I don't think Iron Harvest would be bad as the counters system isn't that complex, it would definitely be easier on pc of course!
I’ve had a strong desire to play a rts for some reason even though I have almost no experience w/ them (I played XCOM 2 for like 30 minutes) and the little bit I do have showed me I absolutely suck at them lol
Haha gotta go with the flow sometimes! Xcom2 is brutal and I wouldn't say represents the typical RTS experience. Iron Harvest is a great RTS to try if you haven't played one before. Also consider Halo Wars 2 and Sudden Strike 4, they're all good introductions. A more detailed challenge could be Age of Empires 2, 4, then there's steel division 2 for Ww2 experience that focuses on fighting rather than resources. Any questions, let me know!
@@twiglets2 awesome thanks! I have Halo Wars & Halo Wars 2 I just never tried them. I was thinking about playing Stellaria because I love scifi and it looks fun. Is that a good one too?
@@a.g.m8790 Stellaris is one of my favourite games, but boy is there a lot to learn! It's a 4X game so it's more about creating and expanding an empire by colonising planets then balancing and investing the resources created from those planets. There's an absolute tonne of research to advance yourself, and eventually create a fleet (or fleets) of warships to take on the other species in the galaxy. An amazing experience, but there's a lot to learn. Halo Wars is an easy to learn RTS with a good story/cut scenes (I have a separate video on that if you're interested), Stellaris is at the other end of the spectrum as a very complex grand strategy (4x) game. So it depends what you're looking for!
@@twiglets2 they both sound great. I’ll start on Halo Wars since it’s easier but I can’t resist how beautiful and deep Stellaris looks lol. Those ship designs 🤤
@@a.g.m8790 Sounds like an awesome plan - Stellaris will not disappoint, it's just a slog to get there at first! Personally I enjoyed the learning process so it's pretty awesome whatever you do!
@@BuellerTrades Ooft now that's a question! As much as I like RTS games, the best times I've had recently have been with 4X games such as Hearts of Iron IV or Stellaris. The depth is just insane and you play it for what feels like 10 minutes and turns out it was 3 hours haha! What about you?
@@BuellerTrades I downloaded that game a couple of months ago but haven't given it a try yet. Do you reckon it's aged well and worth playing for the first time now?
That's interesting - I hadn't thought of that! Admittedly it's been a while since I played DoW, though as I understand it the third instalment was vastly different to the first two. Thanks for the comment!
Thanks for pointing out how it's a carbon copy of company of heroes, i wanted to play this game when it was newly released since I really loved the idea but my laptop was very bad. Played company of heroes 2 and i hated it quite a lot. Saw the game on sale so i was wondering if i should get it but unfortunately it's probably best i dont.
@deceptionception I don't like putting people off but if you really didn't enjoy the gameplay of company of heroes it's unlikely to be the game for you!
@@twiglets2 Yeah that's fair man, it's not your fault. But from my point of perspective, you achieved your goal marvelously by describing the game and telling us if we would have liked it or not. I've been quite deceived by the promotional videos so your video was very useful.
They're very different so it depends what you like. I have a separate video on Sudden Strike that you may find useful. Iron Harvest has the alternate history diesel punk mechs with a detailed storyline and cutscenes. Sudden Strike it straight up WW2 with no fancy cut scenes. Neither of them have much base building or big resource collection. Sudden Strike is mostly about tanks, whereas Iron Harvest doesn't really have tanks at all.
@@michaelschneider1365 Congrats on the PS5, I tried to get one last year but none were available. Iron Harvest has a decent campaign, and it plays a lot like Company of Heroes if you've played that before.
Lets say somebody didnt played any coh games, but played bit of down of war 2 witch is also coh inspired, how does the game compare? Mainly interested in skirmishes vs ai.
I haven't played Dawn of War 2 for a long long time but from what I remember the basic skirmish is similar to that of Iron Harvest. You need to capture points to gain resources rather than build in your base but there isn't much in the way of defensive structures like turrets, it's more infantry and mech focussed combat. I think still plenty for a Dawn of War fan to enjoy with Iron Harvest, but there are a few differences for sure.
I felt like they could've done more with them Giant mechs in terms of strategy, instead it felt like the interesting looking mechs were just a nice skin for a usual military vehicle.
@@twiglets2 Thanks Buddy, I was also thinking in purchasing Ace Combat 7 Skies Unknown, which is also on sale ~ 9 bucks.. But I ended up discarding it also. I ended up downloading DCS Global, which is free and we'll see if it's cool or not. But the point is; I'm 27 years old and games are no longer fun to me. Which would ironically be cool if they still were because I cannot only focus on work 24/7. My mind needs a break from time to time. There are only a handful of games that I still enjoy, Ready or Not; Hearts of Iron 4, ArmA 3; but all else is so boring nowadays. Even Red Dead Redemption 2; which is a good game but, games are no longer fun like they used to be you know? 😢
@ivan200804 Absolutely, it used to be too expensive in my opinion, but now you can pick it up for a decent price in the sale it's a fun singleplayer campaign
The discounts I'm referring to are on steam and show up every couple of months. Right now it has a 50% discount on Epic which is surprising as I would usually say Epic doesn't have many sales!
Agreed, I remember the huge hype. Perhaps everybody wanted it to succeed, or they just had a big marketing budget. It's by no means a bad game, but you don't have to look far for others that do it better. Have you played it before?
@@wearenumberone1111 fair play, I would describe iron harvest as a poor man's coh2. I've been meaning to get back into coh2, I played it a little too much a while back and needed a break. It really got its hooks into me!
The only problem I have is not having a rewarding campaign after finishing insanely hard challenges it offers. It's just disappointing it would all go to the exp only. Doing the challenges took away the long casual fun on beating the campaign lol.
@@mrsaanes pretty sure they introduced an entirely new game mode since this video came out. A shame if MP is dead but then again it was basically a clone of CoH2 so it was always going to struggle
I’ve followed this game (and concept artist) for years because I love the dieselpunk aesthetic, but I suck at RTS games so it’s always been a no go for me :/
@Kagarin05 that's about right! Company of heroes but with vehicles replaced with mechs is another way to look at it, and it doesn't quite work unfortunately!
@CRIAX An interesting change of opinion! I'm curious what you didn't like about it at first, and whether you've changed your mind, or just decided it's the best of a bad bunch?
Dieselpunk, not steam lol. There is a pretty big difference between the 2. Steampunk is set in the victorian era of the 1800's where as dieselpunk is set in the industrial/post wwi and wwii era and centered around jazz and old war themes.
I don't see the 90% Company of Heroes similarity you talk about. In actuality Iron Harvest plays a lot more like a Command and conquer game. The Intro Music...and i assume you mean the Menu music that was playing, changes with the Faction...also "annoying" music. It can't get any more subjective than that.
Hey Das Institut, Iron Harvest is the same as Company of Heroes in a number of ways, this is most evident in the skirmish mode for example: - Infantry are grouped into squads, and those squads use cover in the same way as CoH. - Pressing G to command certain squads to throw a grenade to a certain area (and other such similar commands). - Pressing R for a squad to retreat back to your base, then replenishing the lost squad members in the same way as CoH. - The resources work in the same way, capturing points across the map (in the same way) to generate these resources. - Building the base, or lack of, and the base defenses are also very similar. I could list more, but it would take a long time to list everything! Much of this carries over to the campaign, where there are other similarities, but of course many of those are simply because both games are RTS games! None of this is a good or a bad thing in my opinion (it depends how much you like CoH!) I think it fair (and useful) to describe Iron Harvest as very similar to CoH to a new player to give them an initial understanding of what to expect. The 90% wasn't exact, of course, and I won't pretend to be the first person to identify these similarities. Sadly I haven't played C&C for years, but will happily take your word on that. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment. For my insignificant channel every comment is a joy to see and to respond to. Thank you!
I played the campaign up to the last mission. while visually it's good the gameplay is sluggish. in this game artillery is really the King. with the hard hitting Mechs and heavy weapon units all walk in snail pace, attacking an entrenced enemy position that has artillery units defending it is turning the game into an attrition. Also in firefights infantry units become almost irrelevant mid-game as the anti infantry mechs just eliminate them easily (even anti-mech infantry don't fare much better). so in short, infantry units are beaten by anti infantry mechs, anti infantry mechs are beaten by anti mech mechs, anti mech mechs are beaten by artillery mechs, and everyone is beaten by superheavy mechs (but these are not cheap to field) .
@TheOis1984 I didn't ever reach a point I felt I knew the gameplay well enough to make a statement like that, but it does make sense based on my own experience. I've watched high level players who use a lot of infantry, but then again that's likely due to the early game, and they go for the mechs as soon as they can. It was refreshing to see decent visuals / cutscenes in an RTS game.
@@twiglets2 oh, and also do you realize that when you have a mech battle and are losing, it’s very difficult to retreat your mechs as they move really slow? So yeah, playing company of heroes 1 and 2 are far more enjoyable than iron harvest
@@OrisOsiris1 The way I saw it, Iron Harvest effectively tried to be Company of Heores style gameplay, but with vehicles replaced by mechs. (and I don't think it worked as well as they wanted it to!) Do you think that's a fair assessment?
@@twiglets2 yes. btw there's a funny thing i notice in the world building and in the cutscenes. in game all vehicles have legs, that even includes the team-operated heavy machine guns and the anti tank (eh.. mech) guns. they tried to replace all the wheels in that universe with legs. but civilans' cars and trains, they still have wheels. wouldn't it be fun if the trains have tiny legs so they look like milipedes :D
@WardenOfTerran I guess that's personal preference. If that's the only issue you have then I guess the game has done quite well (some RTS gamers absolutely hate the game!)
I feel for you my friend. I've always thought the main issue is this game is too expensive for what it is. Not a bad game by any means, but so much money!
Does someone want to buy a key of Iron Harvest for 6$? I got a steam key as a price, but I don't want to use it and my PC isn't made for these types of games anyways.
@@ethanblair981 A very very VERY long time ago. I was considering making a video on Dawn of War as I never tried the third game, but have heard it was a terrible departure from the previous two (which I enjoyed immensely).
@@twiglets2 Oh indeed, DOW3 was a bland mess by comparison. But DOW1 and DOW2 are excellent! Give them a revisit and see if you're inspired to make a video, they are a staple of early 2000s RTS after all!
The game is described as 1920+, most would describe it as between WW1 and WW2 which seems accurate, though the combat is far more complex than WW1 trench warfare.
What I don't get is how they miss out a British faction when they did most to win the war in the first place. Or even a French one would have been good. But Polish? I can only imagine the developers were Polish and maybe that's why they added it.
English did most to win? Seriously? I advise you to find out a little, to look at some statistics (if only the number of soldiers present on the front throughout the conflict), to see who was the commander-in-chief of the allies and what belligerent power had soldiers in France as well as in Italy or in the Balkans (and in Istanbul, Syria ans Russia in 1918-1919).. it's not the UK. As much as we can salute the heroic resistance of Great Britain during WW2 which fought the Axis alone for almost a year (without the Americans, we often forget), it is France which largely carried the essence of the war effort during the WWI (if we put aside the Russian case made more complex because of the Revolution). British and Americans forget it too quickly by dint of playing Battlefield and developing a navel-gazing cinema.
@@yasashii89 :) Yes! The ability of cinema and video games to rewrite history saddens me. Imagine a game about Waterloo without Wellington (English) but just Blücher (Prussians). Is it not stupid?
@@twiglets2 I don't like the winning by attrition game mechanic. I don't like the changing unit functions. I don't like the tons of micro or the bad AI. I'm not particularly fond of the 1920s, low-tech theme. The mechs are cool but not done very well IMO. The battle animations/should be more graphic and bloody IMO. I would prefer something with more options and depth to base building and tech'ing.
@@BrianHallmond overall the game didn't live up to expectations but I suspect many of those ratings are from when the game required improvement early on. It's much better now, worth bearing that in mind
mainly playing this for multiplayer; the main problem is: there are too few players. So come and join the mp community xd didnt like the campaign at call, pure cringe.
This game would have been a dream come through for me it were more like either Men of War: Assault Squad 2 or World in Conflict, but they chose the more cartoonish Company of Heroes approach.
1 theres 4 factions 2 fuck using cover using the right mechs wins any times example being the usa anti infantry light armor mech is op have three thst are veteran using their ability to lose a little hp to to better against armor they will shred any mech building or infantry with ease-_-
Yes, there are three factions in the base game and an additional one in the Operation Eagle DLC. That's a shame they've included such an OP unit, I've not tried that myself but will give it a go.
Funnily enough, this game isn't for me at all. I haven't even finished the base campaign (stuck at the end of the third one). I already was struggling with Dawn of War 1, but this just takes the cake, even on easy mode. And i'm not even a bad RTS player but this style of game is just...nope, not for me. That said and done...I still own the fancy-pantsy version of this game were you not only got the game, but also every DLC that will ever be released. Was like 70-80€ on release I believe. And I still consider it worth it, simply because IH is from KingArts, who are responsable for one of favorite games of all time, Book of Unwritten Tales (1&2). So everyone buying the game just raises my hopes, that eventually they will find the funds to make a third part of that :D (also for real: KingArts is based in Bremen/Germany and is an awesome company. Especially their CEO Jan Theyssen really is a nice and highly capable dude)
I hope KingArts see how nice you're being about them! Just out of curiosity do you enjoy Company of Heroes? The games are so similar it would be interesting to know if you dislike both, or like one and not the other? I'm not sure this would get into my top 10 RTS games, but it all comes down to personal preference. Some people love it and I can totally see why.
@@twiglets2 I think I never player CoH, but I assume it won't be for me either. I'm just not cut out for this point-based Squad-RTS. Grew up on AoE 2 and Red Alert, spend the majority of my youth playing WC3. It is hard to switch from that to something so vastely different...
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If I may add. There’s also a noticeable difference in each faction. Barely anything stays the same between them. Even the basic infantry and resource buildings change depending on what faction you’re playing. Polania has rifleman, Rusviet has shotgunners, and Saxony has sub machine gunners.
Ah yes, a detail I hadn't really taken in until just now - thank you! Shows how observant I am 😂
@@twiglets2 No problem, though I was debating on whether or not I'd look like a bigot for pointing it out
@@adorabomber123 Not at all, I would always encourage someone to share their thoughts - best way for potential new players to make a decision, more knowledge is always better!
@@twiglets2 Thanks mate
Actually almost all the troops available are the same, other than the Main Squads of each Nation, their Mechs and Exo Suits.
I know a few others pointed it out, but I wanted to clarify that the term "Steampunk" implies a setting with Victorian Era themes (Europe in the late 1800s). Once you start getting into the era of WW1 and WW2, the genre is called "Dieselpunk" because technology is fueled by oil and combustion instead of steam power. They're basically the same genre, just in different time periods!
Thanks for pointing that out! Yes a few people have mentioned that now, kicked myself when I realised, and making sure I get the distinction right going forward. Feedback is always appreciated!
Makes sense. I like the term 'Dieselpunk' :-) I didn't know that so thansk for clarifying.
Steampunk people are like vegans
@@whitebloodism lol
I would still contend steampunk is somewhat of a valid way to describe Iron Harvest. The WW1 time period kind of straddles the 19th and 20th centuries, at least culturally/technologically.
Really appreciate your review and commentary style, no overhype nonsense, just calm and to the point. Excellent timestamps too. Instant subscription!
Thank you, I'm glad you found it useful! Just let me know if you can think of other games that could do with this kind of review :)
oh my god how is your channel so underrated the mic quality it insane and the review tells me everything i need to know about the game to make an informed purchase. thank you so much for this review.
Thank you for your kind words - it's this sort of comment that keeps me going!
I'm glad you found the review useful, I hope you find the future videos useful too. I'm putting together a video for Frostpunk as I picked it up in the sale and it's actually an amazing game haha
Thank you again :)
same thing came to mind, you can see the effort you put in, I hope you blow up cuz this is so well made
@@twiglets2 honestly i thought you had at least 50K subs count me in mate
@@ambassadorbarak2884 I'm flattered - maybe one day but for now I'm a teeny tiny channel!
Welcome aboard, if you ever want me to look at a specific games feel free to let me know!
@@twiglets2 most definitely iron harvest maynot be for me though but im hearing good things about Starhip troopers Terran command im a fan of Homeworld games so i cant wait one the new game to come by winter time and of course COH3
Great review, this should really be an industry standard. Not biased and its covers everything I want to know before buying the game without going to in depth.
Thank you Dark Lord, it's an honour to have served.
Thank you for mentioning AI pathfinding. This point is omitted in most reviews. It would be also nice if pc performance was mentioned too.
Thank you for the feedback, the only reason I mentioned it is due to a precious comment such as this, I'll be sure to focus more on performance in the future. Is there a specific part of performance you would find it useful to focus on?
Some of the most atrocious pathing I've ever seen in an RTS that isn't a post-Generals EA Command & Conquer game...
@@insomnolant6043 to be fair most of the RTS games have terrible pathfinding even now. I remember watching interview with guys from Westwood who worked on Tiberian Sun and they jokingly said that they didn't try to make smart AI, only AI that works... somehow, because apparently they had lot of issues with AI pathfinding on that game and deadline was closing in, so it was a miracle that game shipped in playable state (AI wise).
However from what I remember it was actually quite buggy game on lunch, and back then you had to wait for those magazines to give you patch CDs. Good times. 😆
Great review! Tho technically wouldn't this be more like "dieselpunk"?
I was coming in to say the same thing. Love me some dieselpunk.
A mix of machine punk and diesel punk♥️ ...and a bit of retro futurism.
You sir deserve more subs! Great video, keep doing what you are doing!
Thank you Oleg, you've made my day! I hope you enjoy the future content, and if there's a game you want me to cover just let me know :)
My opinion is YES, it is worth it the campaign in my opinion is so good and for my first rts game that I had ever played it was so easy. Only now do I know how other rts games work, just because of Iron Harvest. Definitely a beginner rts game, but also great for pro players. And the art OMG IT IS GREAT. Btw Scythe the board game Iron Harvest is made out of is also great, not just in my opinion but it is one of the most top rated board games in the world!
I've been meaning to give the board game a try as I've heard it's great - I think I'll purchase it!
Oh yeah o have to know comment that with trying to get almost every GODDAMN achievement in the game it ain't such an easy game after all, but I already got 90% of missions ready and about 40k Iron Harvest Coins
Why did it take me so long to find your channel? Amazing content mate, keep on the good work!
@@anferFFmax cheers! Hope you find the videos useful
I really like the world of this game.
Imaging this game but as a fps. Love the idea of giant mechs battling through fields.
@arthurcallahan4735 Now that is a very cool thought! Maybe they got it wrong and this game was born to be an FPS instead of an RTS from the start!
Titanfall lol
@@grayshepard692 never tried it but heard that's an epic game!
@@grayshepard692You serious? The games are like centuries apart.
You should give a masterclass in how to review games and content.
By far the best format.
@emerispendragon6500 that's very kind of you! Are there any other games you would like to see reviewed in this way?
Such a complete and useful review thank you !
@alexgarcias7450 Thank you, I hope you found it useful!
As soon as I heard your voice I subscribed. I know that sounds weird, but man, it’s really soothing. Obviously, I stayed subscribed after watching your review and thoroughly enjoying it.
I really like your review style with the quick summary at the beginning, and then digging down into the details. I really wish you the best, and hope your channel keeps growing.
That's very nice of you to say so my friend, the support means a lot!
If you think of any other games that could do with this kind of review, please let me know :)
It now has a global map campaign that adds some replayability. Just bought mine and I'm enjoying it right now
I've not checked out the global map yet but it looks interesting. Are you finding that a fun feature of the game?
@@twiglets2 Yes, it's a bit nostalgic as well since it kinda reminds me of the old dawn of war campaigns and the Battle for middle earth's War of the ring
@@saberpendragon271 Well, mentioning those games has sold it to me! I'll check it out, thanks for the heads up :)
@@twiglets2 Hopefully they'll continue to expand the game with more faction dlcs and free feature upgrades
@@saberpendragon271 I haven't tried it yet but it seems a great step in the right direction to me. Looking forward to it!
Okay I literally just learned today that this existed. I always loved the board game, and the aethstetic of it and always kind of hoped they would make something else off of it that expanded on the world, low and behold they already have.
I've been tempted to try the board game but it looks intimidating!
I thoroughly enjoy the game. Good story, solid voice work, music compliments the tone, and good tactical gameplay.
@michaelman957 Have you tried any of the DLC's? I found they were a mix of good and bad personally.
Wish they would add more skirmish maps and a couple new factions before they call it quits. Like seeing Japan would be cool or ottomans.
That'd be cool! I think they are adding a new mode based on a world map like Risk so it will be interesting to see how that shapes up!
Or the brits
Excellent review, very much appreciated!
@ownmattjewaurelio thank you! I hope it was useful
I Love the way you do reviews!!
@@Ltleon2k2 thank you! I hope it's useful
the only reason that the mechs are smaller then the art work is game limitations and so your pc doesn’t go nuclear. (Also good video)
Just my opinion though.
That makes sense. As much as I'd like even bigger mechs, my PC is scared enough as it is!
Thank you :)
Very good review
Another note on defenses like barbed wire and sandbags. They can be trampled and instantly destroyed by mechs or shot to pieces by enemy canons. It takes a time to build them so I found it hardly ever is worth it. And the bunkers take up the few and valuable population points. Wish that got some revisjon
Thank you! And thanks for the points on barbed wire etc, I'm glad it's not just me as I found them relatively useless too, a shame really but then I guess some like a fluid battle, I quite like creating a solid defence!
Perhaps they thought a defensive game would make it boring to watch on the esports scene, I'm sure I've heard of RTS developers concentrating on attack attack attack to make the games more entertaining to watch.
@@twiglets2 yeah if that's the case it's certainly a fair consideration for multiplayer. But I like setting up defences too haha. Especially since there are multiple missions where you are meant to hold off waves it sucks that all the prep you can make is create a unit blob on the front line
@@squid1481 Absolutely! They even made a whole mode around defending against waves, they should give us some actual defences!
Would be cool if you can make ditch traps to get mechs stuck
pretty good review, might pick it up the game for a new genre to try
Thank you, if you have further questions about it just let me know, I'll try to help :)
The game is truly phenomenal. Honestly, world's better than trashy, tacky, restrictive Halo Wars 2. Definitely far better story and lore with far, far richer character depth of the story characters. Multiple factions with distinctly different units even if the same class with some having specific functional alterations such as Polania's mobile mortar mech that doubles as a turret box for infantry types, while no other faction has that. Meanwhile, Usonia has strong air power slightly moreso than the rest. Rusviet has great affordable melee mechs in general, but have overall higher oil costs across the board.
So what's bad about halo wars 2?
I played the first one multiple times (and still at it)
I recently downloaded halo wars 2. But before I play I want to know is it good like the first halo wars or bad?
Please detail me
I really appreciate this comment..I play halo wars 2 quite alot for love of a RTS game...I just got this game hoping for something more.
@Blazesaph I put many hours on HW 2...haven't played 1 at all.....I miss star craft..but HW2 scratches the itch a little
Yes, it has a world conquest mode now.
Its dieselpunk, there are no steam engines.
Company of Heroes is itself a copy of Desert Rats vs Afrika Corps. The real OG game.
Love the graphics of this game!!!! Im still hoping for a BATTLE REALMS 2 , can you guys give a recommendations for any games like BR🙏
My man, I was thinking the same😅
Would really love to see Battle Realms in better graphics and maybe enhanced engine!🙂😎
Is it like a up today command and conquer style?
On sale righ tnow on Steam for $4.49 USD, seems like a no brainer. Thanks for the video, never checked this out back in the day.
@dozilla77 you're welcome, hope it was useful. Iron harvest was a disappointment on release but for that kind of money you're are getting a decent rts campaign, an average company of heroes style skirmish mode, a reasonably fun challenge/horde mode and a small world map mode. Not a bad deal at all!
Tour Channel its Amazing! Really impressões with tour quality work!
26 Years I'm still waiting for a classic like command and conquer red alert
The last one I played was Red Alert 2 Yuri's revenge (a casual 15 years ago!) I've heard the later C&C games were downhill from there, would you say that's a fair assessment?
@@twiglets2 absolutely, EA bucheted the franchise and turned it into a mobile game! I hope to see the day when an RTS can tople those that were made almost 3 decades now because everything I've played since doesnt even come close bro
@@JustMyOpinion- A mobile game?! Ah man that doesn't sound good, what a shame. I have the remastered C&C which I still need to give proper attention to. You've inspired me to reinstall it! Happy gaming
@@twiglets2 oh bro you should I play the C&C remaster at least once a day if i have the time! good community in steam also, we organise competitions and have many group chats, hope to see you in a lobby sometime (=
@@JustMyOpinion- That's awesome to hear man, I hope so too!
If you're interested in the DLC's here is a similar video on those - ruclips.net/video/7hQBW6s4A8A/видео.html
It was difficult to not just say "this is the same as Company of Heroes" - to be fair there is more to Iron Harvest than that, but the games are VERY similar in their mechanics. Are you tempted to give it a try? Definitely wait for the sale as the discounts are significant, and you could pick up a bargain!
As someone who played this first just recently and still playing I think it gives well worth the content for your money especially with DLC.
Campaigns are entertaining enough with its additional challenges/achievements and "World Map" scenarios are quite fun to play as well in additio to basic skirmish maps and MP.
Not as great as Company of Heroes its mostly related to but still well worth playing for anyone who likes RTS games.
Hopefully one day there would je sequel cause the game's alternative history dieselpunk world is quite interesting
Thank you for sharing your view. At the moment I would say the campaign is the strong point and the multiplayer / skirmish is the weak point for the game. Do you share that view?
@@twiglets2 well as someone who mainly plays just singleplayer its hard for me to judge Iron Harvest multiplayer compared to other RTS multiplayer 😅 but ye overall its not "amazing" RTS but still very good game that I hope will get sequel one day
Great review, even in the year 2024 this is still a great recommendation!
@jor2416 Thank you! The game was disappointing on release but with the deep discounts these days I think it's a great buy for rts fans who enjoy a decent story
Great review, thanks
Thanks Johnny, glad it was useful. Let me know if there are any other games you would like to see a review on!
I got this a while ago on GOG in a sale as I was intrested. I am going to be playing it for the first time this weekend should be good :-) Seems all major issues are sorted now.
Best of luck! The story is decent, but if you get a chance I recommend checking out the world map mode. It still needs fleshing out in my opinion but makes a change from the skirmish mode once you're finished with the campaign.
Let us know how it goes!
@@twiglets2 great I will do 😁 I also rather world map type games over just skirmish matches. You get the same experience as well as other stuff added to it. Same with Total War type games I love when they had total open world maps 😁
Hi, Liked your review, and currently the game on sale for 8.99 and with dlc for 15.56 usd on steam . do you think its worth it if I am a fan of C&C Generals and BFME2 .
Hello, I hope you found the review useful! C&C and BFME2 are quite different to Iron Harvest. The game is more like Company of Heroes if you've played that before? Less base building and more concentrating on fighting. I guess you could say it's similar to BFME 2 in that respect as that game only had one resource so you could concentrate on fighting.
It's difficult to say for sure, but Iron Harvest does have a decent story with good cut scenes, so if you like an RTS campaign that will be a good reason to get the game. Whether you will long the multiplayer, I'm not so sure. Maybe check out some more detailed videos of multiplayer matches to see if you like the look of them. You basically run around capturing flags a lot and engaging the enemy from cover. I hope tha thelps!
Very good review
Thank you, I hope you found it useful!
Do you play Crusader Kings 3. It will be great to watch you play that game as you are goated in most of the strategy based games.
I love crusader Kings 3, I find it is a difficult game though! Is that your preferred game?
@@twiglets2 I found it too complex. That is why I asked if you play as I found your RON tutorials are very helpful and entertaining. Keep up the great work.
@@debjitghosh4869 thank you! I will take a look at crusader Kings 3 :)
You gained a subscriber for both a great video, and a great name.
Just wish I had some twiglets rn.....
@Col_Grisoat Haha thank you on both counts...and don't we all!
Cannot seem to hear anything(or read) about artillery. Is there any long range bombardment from ground, or any call in strikes?
Btw great content, explained very nicely!
Considering buying the game🙂🙂🍻
Thank you - I hope you found the video useful! There's nothing exactly like that, though some of the bigger units have long range and big guns, I wouldn't describe those as your typical artillery. The Operation Eagle DLC brings in flying units, some of which can be used quite well for bombardment but probably not the behind enemy lines sort that you're thinking of
@@twiglets2 Looks like developers really wanted to put emphasis on front lines fighting, no defending, no digging up, no long range harassing, just pure micromanaging and pushing.
Well, tbh, CoH still is more diverse comparing to IH.
@@2kee013 Yes I think so too. This is only a theory, but I think that RTS developers are often concerned that defending is boring to watch and they want both players to attack attack attack for entertainment value hoping that it will encourage an esports scene.
Just a thought but it wouldn't surprise me if that's what the IH devs had in mind when making the game as there is basically no defending!
Do you know of any games on ps5 like airmech arena or orcs must die unchained? By that i mean rts games that you run around as a character and control your armys. Ive been depressed ever since they shut down
I'm afraid not, but I will do some digging and see what I can find :)
@@twiglets2 thanks :)
Especially dig Wojtek 😆 You know, he really existed in WW2.
No way, did he actually?! He was definitely a highlight but damn does he like to run into the middle of a fight, I'm glad there's a whistle mechanic to pull him out of there!
@@twiglets2 yeah, the real Wojtek helped carry artillery shells
@@blooddragon936 Badass Wojtek
Me and my buddy bought it in 2024. Great game for co-op and stuff. Awesome strategy even in 2024. ❤😊
@lukakrslovic4784 awesome! I haven't played the game as co-op, glad to hear it's worth trying
worth getting in console though? series x it's on sale for $33 for the complete
I haven't tried it on console so it's difficult to say. RTS doesn't normally work well on console but I don't think Iron Harvest would be bad as the counters system isn't that complex, it would definitely be easier on pc of course!
I’ve had a strong desire to play a rts for some reason even though I have almost no experience w/ them (I played XCOM 2 for like 30 minutes) and the little bit I do have showed me I absolutely suck at them lol
Haha gotta go with the flow sometimes! Xcom2 is brutal and I wouldn't say represents the typical RTS experience. Iron Harvest is a great RTS to try if you haven't played one before. Also consider Halo Wars 2 and Sudden Strike 4, they're all good introductions. A more detailed challenge could be Age of Empires 2, 4, then there's steel division 2 for Ww2 experience that focuses on fighting rather than resources. Any questions, let me know!
@@twiglets2 awesome thanks! I have Halo Wars & Halo Wars 2 I just never tried them. I was thinking about playing Stellaria because I love scifi and it looks fun. Is that a good one too?
@@a.g.m8790 Stellaris is one of my favourite games, but boy is there a lot to learn! It's a 4X game so it's more about creating and expanding an empire by colonising planets then balancing and investing the resources created from those planets. There's an absolute tonne of research to advance yourself, and eventually create a fleet (or fleets) of warships to take on the other species in the galaxy. An amazing experience, but there's a lot to learn. Halo Wars is an easy to learn RTS with a good story/cut scenes (I have a separate video on that if you're interested), Stellaris is at the other end of the spectrum as a very complex grand strategy (4x) game. So it depends what you're looking for!
@@twiglets2 they both sound great. I’ll start on Halo Wars since it’s easier but I can’t resist how beautiful and deep Stellaris looks lol. Those ship designs 🤤
@@a.g.m8790 Sounds like an awesome plan - Stellaris will not disappoint, it's just a slog to get there at first! Personally I enjoyed the learning process so it's pretty awesome whatever you do!
Good review. A carbon copy of Company of Heroes was all I needed to hear.
Haha you're welcome - I mean, CoH with mechs is basically what you're getting here!
love your channel!
Thank you - I hope you find it useful!
@@twiglets2 what would you say is the most fun strategy game to play right now. Idm RTS but if not that’s ok.
@@BuellerTrades Ooft now that's a question! As much as I like RTS games, the best times I've had recently have been with 4X games such as Hearts of Iron IV or Stellaris. The depth is just insane and you play it for what feels like 10 minutes and turns out it was 3 hours haha! What about you?
@@twiglets2 I’d kill for another napoleon total war 😂
@@BuellerTrades I downloaded that game a couple of months ago but haven't given it a try yet. Do you reckon it's aged well and worth playing for the first time now?
Youre doing a great job man
Thank you! I hope you found it useful
Great review
Thank you! I hope you found it useful. Suggestions for other games are always welcome
I'd say that it's closer to the Dawn of War series compared to Company of Heroes.
That's interesting - I hadn't thought of that! Admittedly it's been a while since I played DoW, though as I understand it the third instalment was vastly different to the first two. Thanks for the comment!
Good tl:dr review knowing its based on company of heroes puts me off right away and i can move on, but i'll play the video on mute in a tab!
@dawfydd I'm glad it helped, plenty of other games to look at in the sales and appreciate the playthrough in the background!
11:43 this didn't age well😢
Controls, settings?
What is it you would like to know about them?
Thanks for pointing out how it's a carbon copy of company of heroes, i wanted to play this game when it was newly released since I really loved the idea but my laptop was very bad. Played company of heroes 2 and i hated it quite a lot.
Saw the game on sale so i was wondering if i should get it but unfortunately it's probably best i dont.
@deceptionception I don't like putting people off but if you really didn't enjoy the gameplay of company of heroes it's unlikely to be the game for you!
@@twiglets2 Yeah that's fair man, it's not your fault. But from my point of perspective, you achieved your goal marvelously by describing the game and telling us if we would have liked it or not. I've been quite deceived by the promotional videos so your video was very useful.
Maybe review about DLC?
If you would find that useful I can put it on the list!
is this better then sudden strike
They're very different so it depends what you like. I have a separate video on Sudden Strike that you may find useful.
Iron Harvest has the alternate history diesel punk mechs with a detailed storyline and cutscenes. Sudden Strike it straight up WW2 with no fancy cut scenes.
Neither of them have much base building or big resource collection.
Sudden Strike is mostly about tanks, whereas Iron Harvest doesn't really have tanks at all.
@@twiglets2 I own sudden strike but just got ps5. and this is on sale so i’m deciding
@@michaelschneider1365 Congrats on the PS5, I tried to get one last year but none were available.
Iron Harvest has a decent campaign, and it plays a lot like Company of Heroes if you've played that before.
Lets say somebody didnt played any coh games, but played bit of down of war 2 witch is also coh inspired, how does the game compare? Mainly interested in skirmishes vs ai.
I haven't played Dawn of War 2 for a long long time but from what I remember the basic skirmish is similar to that of Iron Harvest.
You need to capture points to gain resources rather than build in your base but there isn't much in the way of defensive structures like turrets, it's more infantry and mech focussed combat.
I think still plenty for a Dawn of War fan to enjoy with Iron Harvest, but there are a few differences for sure.
I felt like they could've done more with them Giant mechs in terms of strategy, instead it felt like the interesting looking mechs were just a nice skin for a usual military vehicle.
@Cpt.PickHard Hm that's a good point, there doesn't seem to be much strategy there. I felt the mechs could have been bigger too
It is based on the board game which is based on a person’s art
@jaypoop4874 I haven't played the board game but I've heard great things about it
what about cheats cods?
Thank You 👁️👃👁️🙏
Literally Wondering if it's worthy of purchasing for €9,88 Deluxe Edition now on Steam.
Ok boring game.. Thx Dude 🙏
@manuel.camelo You're welcome! I hope you find your next game soon
@@twiglets2 Thanks Buddy, I was also thinking in purchasing Ace Combat 7 Skies Unknown, which is also on sale ~ 9 bucks.. But I ended up discarding it also.
I ended up downloading DCS Global, which is free and we'll see if it's cool or not.
But the point is; I'm 27 years old and games are no longer fun to me. Which would ironically be cool if they still were because I cannot only focus on work 24/7. My mind needs a break from time to time.
There are only a handful of games that I still enjoy, Ready or Not; Hearts of Iron 4, ArmA 3; but all else is so boring nowadays. Even Red Dead Redemption 2; which is a good game but, games are no longer fun like they used to be you know? 😢
It's a very well-made game. Some mechanics were inspired by CoH.
@ivan200804 Absolutely, it used to be too expensive in my opinion, but now you can pick it up for a decent price in the sale it's a fun singleplayer campaign
Where was the discount ?on epic it cost way more
The discounts I'm referring to are on steam and show up every couple of months. Right now it has a 50% discount on Epic which is surprising as I would usually say Epic doesn't have many sales!
@@twiglets2 i dasaggree on your opinon on epic sales but as i see ste mgave a huger discount so a might wait for that
i think like in starcraft the vehicles have been scaled down so maybe lore-wise they are massive
@avenpreston1418 I think you're right, when you look at the board game and art work they look much bigger than in the game.
this game was so hyped up but then it got forgotten
Agreed, I remember the huge hype. Perhaps everybody wanted it to succeed, or they just had a big marketing budget.
It's by no means a bad game, but you don't have to look far for others that do it better. Have you played it before?
@@twiglets2 no I didnt play it and I dont plan on playing it but I do have 500 hours in coh2
@@wearenumberone1111 fair play, I would describe iron harvest as a poor man's coh2.
I've been meaning to get back into coh2, I played it a little too much a while back and needed a break. It really got its hooks into me!
I really enjoyed this game, but was very dissapointed at the cliffhanger ending of the campaign
@epicness5732 It was a strange decision, not sure if they were trying to make us excited for the next part of the story? I can't say it worked for me!
The only problem I have is not having a rewarding campaign after finishing insanely hard challenges it offers. It's just disappointing it would all go to the exp only.
Doing the challenges took away the long casual fun on beating the campaign lol.
@Fralite Did you manage them all?! I must admit I gave up, it's so brutal!
@@twiglets2 only few more but it burnt me out after finishing the campaign
i bought it for 4,22$ and i love it
@REBDRoma that's a great deal!
"Will receive support for uears to come". The yest this video dropped was the year the last update also dropped. MP doesnt work anymore apparently
@@mrsaanes pretty sure they introduced an entirely new game mode since this video came out. A shame if MP is dead but then again it was basically a clone of CoH2 so it was always going to struggle
I’ve followed this game (and concept artist) for years because I love the dieselpunk aesthetic, but I suck at RTS games so it’s always been a no go for me :/
Steampunk ww1 company of heroes is the big vibe I get
@Kagarin05 that's about right! Company of heroes but with vehicles replaced with mechs is another way to look at it, and it doesn't quite work unfortunately!
YES
YES!
For those coming around these days, Iron Harvest is on Game Pass.
Actually after CoH 3.. Imma stick back to IH. I firstly disowned IH but now its the only "good" RTS.
@CRIAX An interesting change of opinion!
I'm curious what you didn't like about it at first, and whether you've changed your mind, or just decided it's the best of a bad bunch?
Dieselpunk, not steam lol. There is a pretty big difference between the 2. Steampunk is set in the victorian era of the 1800's where as dieselpunk is set in the industrial/post wwi and wwii era and centered around jazz and old war themes.
Thanks for the correction (I've had it a few times now!) a slip of the tongue shall we say...
I don't see the 90% Company of Heroes similarity you talk about. In actuality Iron Harvest plays a lot more like a Command and conquer game.
The Intro Music...and i assume you mean the Menu music that was playing, changes with the Faction...also "annoying" music. It can't get any more subjective than that.
Hey Das Institut, Iron Harvest is the same as Company of Heroes in a number of ways, this is most evident in the skirmish mode for example:
- Infantry are grouped into squads, and those squads use cover in the same way as CoH.
- Pressing G to command certain squads to throw a grenade to a certain area (and other such similar commands).
- Pressing R for a squad to retreat back to your base, then replenishing the lost squad members in the same way as CoH.
- The resources work in the same way, capturing points across the map (in the same way) to generate these resources.
- Building the base, or lack of, and the base defenses are also very similar.
I could list more, but it would take a long time to list everything!
Much of this carries over to the campaign, where there are other similarities, but of course many of those are simply because both games are RTS games!
None of this is a good or a bad thing in my opinion (it depends how much you like CoH!) I think it fair (and useful) to describe Iron Harvest as very similar to CoH to a new player to give them an initial understanding of what to expect. The 90% wasn't exact, of course, and I won't pretend to be the first person to identify these similarities.
Sadly I haven't played C&C for years, but will happily take your word on that.
Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment. For my insignificant channel every comment is a joy to see and to respond to. Thank you!
Oh hey twig used to your coh videos
@forrestperkins6237 Hello! I haven't done many of those! Hope you found this one useful though :)
@@twiglets2 perhaps it was gates of hell or hell let loose either way great vids
@@forrestperkins6237 thank you my friend!
Yes!
Hell yes!
I played the campaign up to the last mission. while visually it's good the gameplay is sluggish.
in this game artillery is really the King. with the hard hitting Mechs and heavy weapon units all walk in snail pace, attacking an entrenced enemy position that has artillery units defending it is turning the game into an attrition. Also in firefights infantry units become almost irrelevant mid-game as the anti infantry mechs just eliminate them easily (even anti-mech infantry don't fare much better).
so in short, infantry units are beaten by anti infantry mechs, anti infantry mechs are beaten by anti mech mechs, anti mech mechs are beaten by artillery mechs, and everyone is beaten by superheavy mechs (but these are not cheap to field) .
@TheOis1984 I didn't ever reach a point I felt I knew the gameplay well enough to make a statement like that, but it does make sense based on my own experience.
I've watched high level players who use a lot of infantry, but then again that's likely due to the early game, and they go for the mechs as soon as they can.
It was refreshing to see decent visuals / cutscenes in an RTS game.
@@twiglets2 oh, and also do you realize that when you have a mech battle and are losing, it’s very difficult to retreat your mechs as they move really slow?
So yeah, playing company of heroes 1 and 2 are far more enjoyable than iron harvest
@@OrisOsiris1 The way I saw it, Iron Harvest effectively tried to be Company of Heores style gameplay, but with vehicles replaced by mechs. (and I don't think it worked as well as they wanted it to!)
Do you think that's a fair assessment?
@@twiglets2 yes.
btw there's a funny thing i notice in the world building and in the cutscenes.
in game all vehicles have legs, that even includes the team-operated heavy machine guns and the anti tank (eh.. mech) guns. they tried to replace all the wheels in that universe with legs.
but civilans' cars and trains, they still have wheels. wouldn't it be fun if the trains have tiny legs so they look like milipedes :D
@@OrisOsiris1 Haha! I don't think I'll look at it quite the same again!
My major gripe with this game is how horribly slow everything is. Units also take FOREVER to kill no matter what range you're at.
@WardenOfTerran I guess that's personal preference. If that's the only issue you have then I guess the game has done quite well (some RTS gamers absolutely hate the game!)
As someone who paid full price for this game I feel ripped off af. I could have paid 40 for the same friggin game. We got NOTHING for the extra cash.
I feel for you my friend. I've always thought the main issue is this game is too expensive for what it is. Not a bad game by any means, but so much money!
merci pour les sous titres
@strenil De rien, j'espère que vous avez trouvé la vidéo utile.
Désolé j'utilise un traducteur!
It really looks like COH!
@melomaniakjm yup! They just swapped vehicles for mechs
Its like company of heroes but with red alert time travel shinanigans
Absolutely, so similar to company of heroes. Which some see as a bad thing, some as a good thing!
Does someone want to buy a key of Iron Harvest for 6$?
I got a steam key as a price, but I don't want to use it and my PC isn't made for these types of games anyways.
Looks very much like Dawn of War 2, even down to the Cover colour scheme!
That's an interesting comparison, one that makes me want to play Dawn of War 2!
@@twiglets2 have you not played before?
@@ethanblair981 A very very VERY long time ago. I was considering making a video on Dawn of War as I never tried the third game, but have heard it was a terrible departure from the previous two (which I enjoyed immensely).
@@twiglets2 Oh indeed, DOW3 was a bland mess by comparison. But DOW1 and DOW2 are excellent! Give them a revisit and see if you're inspired to make a video, they are a staple of early 2000s RTS after all!
@@ethanblair981 I think I'll do just that, thanks for the inspiration!
Also 1920 isnt ww2 itz close to ww1
The game is described as 1920+, most would describe it as between WW1 and WW2 which seems accurate, though the combat is far more complex than WW1 trench warfare.
or free on Game Pass
Always great to see these releases on Game Pass, I don't know many people that use it but I think it's an absolute steal for strategy fans!
for 5$ on steam thinking im gonna pull trigger
@@dach829 for that price it has a good RTS campaign!
wish they’d put real languages in instead of the English in various Slavic accents
What I don't get is how they miss out a British faction when they did most to win the war in the first place. Or even a French one would have been good. But Polish? I can only imagine the developers were Polish and maybe that's why they added it.
English did most to win? Seriously?
I advise you to find out a little, to look at some statistics (if only the number of soldiers present on the front throughout the conflict), to see who was the commander-in-chief of the allies and what belligerent power had soldiers in France as well as in Italy or in the Balkans (and in Istanbul, Syria ans Russia in 1918-1919).. it's not the UK.
As much as we can salute the heroic resistance of Great Britain during WW2 which fought the Axis alone for almost a year (without the Americans, we often forget), it is France which largely carried the essence of the war effort during the WWI (if we put aside the Russian case made more complex because of the Revolution). British and Americans forget it too quickly by dint of playing Battlefield and developing a navel-gazing cinema.
@@Steleco Looks like someone is a little upset 😂
@@yasashii89
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Yes!
The ability of cinema and video games to rewrite history saddens me.
Imagine a game about Waterloo without Wellington (English) but just Blücher (Prussians). Is it not stupid?
It might be based in a certain region… not necessarily the entire Great War
@@jaypoop4874 Then Why's America included?
6:37 and it's a no from me
@@fyrestorme you prefer something a little more complex?
@@twiglets2 I don't like the winning by attrition game mechanic. I don't like the changing unit functions. I don't like the tons of micro or the bad AI. I'm not particularly fond of the 1920s, low-tech theme. The mechs are cool but not done very well IMO. The battle animations/should be more graphic and bloody IMO. I would prefer something with more options and depth to base building and tech'ing.
@@fyrestorme I respect someone who knows what they like
Reviews on Steam still not good.
@@BrianHallmond overall the game didn't live up to expectations but I suspect many of those ratings are from when the game required improvement early on. It's much better now, worth bearing that in mind
Game campaign cannot be completed, no signal map is broken. Told devs but they dont care to fix game. Game abandoned
I completed campaign over a year ago but which faction are you having issues with?
mainly playing this for multiplayer; the main problem is: there are too few players. So come and join the mp community xd didnt like the campaign at call, pure cringe.
This game would have been a dream come through for me it were more like either Men of War: Assault Squad 2 or World in Conflict, but they chose the more cartoonish Company of Heroes approach.
For anyone wanting this game: It has quite a lot of bugs. Beware.
@ryokajimosensei2780 Thanks for the heads up! Are there any specific bugs that are the worst that we should look out for?
@@twiglets2 Campaign has a lot of bugs, for starters. You gotta do specific things to not trigger them, so watch some walkthroughs online.
@@ryokajimosensei2780 thanks :)
first i thought its like c&c /:
1 theres 4 factions 2 fuck using cover using the right mechs wins any times example being the usa anti infantry light armor mech is op have three thst are veteran using their ability to lose a little hp to to better against armor they will shred any mech building or infantry with ease-_-
Yes, there are three factions in the base game and an additional one in the Operation Eagle DLC. That's a shame they've included such an OP unit, I've not tried that myself but will give it a go.
Funnily enough, this game isn't for me at all. I haven't even finished the base campaign (stuck at the end of the third one). I already was struggling with Dawn of War 1, but this just takes the cake, even on easy mode. And i'm not even a bad RTS player but this style of game is just...nope, not for me.
That said and done...I still own the fancy-pantsy version of this game were you not only got the game, but also every DLC that will ever be released. Was like 70-80€ on release I believe. And I still consider it worth it, simply because IH is from KingArts, who are responsable for one of favorite games of all time, Book of Unwritten Tales (1&2). So everyone buying the game just raises my hopes, that eventually they will find the funds to make a third part of that :D
(also for real: KingArts is based in Bremen/Germany and is an awesome company. Especially their CEO Jan Theyssen really is a nice and highly capable dude)
I hope KingArts see how nice you're being about them! Just out of curiosity do you enjoy Company of Heroes? The games are so similar it would be interesting to know if you dislike both, or like one and not the other?
I'm not sure this would get into my top 10 RTS games, but it all comes down to personal preference. Some people love it and I can totally see why.
@@twiglets2 I think I never player CoH, but I assume it won't be for me either. I'm just not cut out for this point-based Squad-RTS. Grew up on AoE 2 and Red Alert, spend the majority of my youth playing WC3. It is hard to switch from that to something so vastely different...