@@topher7167 the "runaway" scene and the ending scene were filmed on Wheeling property. The train "gets away" out of the west end of Brewster yard and when they catch up to the train and stop it, it's on the W&LE river subdivision going north through Martin's Ferry, OH. I've been working for the W&LE for almost three years now as a conductor and it's super cool to spot where all the Wheeling locations are. Even the WE 6364 has scribbled "Denzel was here" inside the cab just above the isolation switch lol
I've met with some people from CSX corporate before. Yes they're still a company at the end of the day, but they also expressed to me more times than I can mention how much love, and appreciation they have for their fanbase, their community, and country. I hope to see CSX continue successfully on the high iron, until the end of time itself.
I was an engineer for CSX from 1998 - 2004. 8888 came through Barr yard. I had to climb on it and read all the graffiti. 'My little runaway' was all over the cab. Fun times.. Lol
@@berkshiredave9766 I really don't know. Possibly, the engineer applied the independent brake. That might have stopped the alerter from activating the system. Just a theory though.
I know I am over a year too late but a few facts that you missed that I believe should be mentioned in this video... The engineer who was at the controls of 8888 as it was making its movement was never fired from CSX. He was 2nd in Seniority in Stanley Yard and had no prior records of incidents prior to this. CSX put him back on the job and he worked for CSX all the way up to 2015 when he hired out. He is now happily retired from CSX. I know this because I have a friend who knows this engineer personally. Another interesting fact that was missed is when the train hit that portable derailer at Galatea. Galatea is also known as North Baltimore, and the derailer was not placed on the mainline. The dispatcher routed the Runaway Train into the siding, where the derailer was placed at roughly the middle of the siding. Another fact that was not discussed in the video was the situation at Bowling Green University. The Runaway Train passed right by the Bowling Green University Campus, which was partially evacuated due to the emergency. Another fun fact is when the train started passing through Findlay, a CNN Helicopter started broadcasting the event live on National Television. After this, the Governor of Ohio at the time Bob Taft as well as US President George W. Bush was alerted of the escalating crisis. When the incident concluded, George W. Bush personally visited Ohio and congratulated the heroes to those involved and became a supporter in legislation to prevent this incident from happening again. I would also like to expand on part 3:43 where you state that more derailing attempts were set up. The actual concern was that on the route that the train was traveling on, the train would have come into Columbus traveling through Ridgeway, Marysville, and eventually coming in through the Northwest side of Columbus. There was a curve at N Soulder Avenue where the line that the train was on joins the Norfolk Southern, and it was moving too fast to make that corner. The initial plan was to derail the train at Ridgeway, however, there was a train already blocking the corner at Ridgeway. 4:10 I would also like to point out that it wasn't the dispatcher who placed the Kenton Local to intervene. The person who actually ordered that was a person by the name of Jon Hosfield. Jon Hosfield was the train master for both the Toledo Branch and the Scottslawn Secondary, and he had been following the train South since it left Stanley Yard. He was the guy who actually hopped on board and stopped the Runaway Locomotive in Kenton. Also, another funny side note. In 2005, 8888 actually suffered another accident and the engine became damaged, however, CSX decided to rebuild the locomotive. After this accident people who actually worked on it began believing that the engine was cursed lol
The “Crazy 8’s Incident” is probably the last runaway we will see for a while or ever mainly because the technology we have now is designed to stop situations like this from happening.
Yes and the funny part is who’s idea was it to shoot a button right next to a diesel tank that would explode if it were to be shot at. Just comment sense to not shoot it.
And it would of never happened if the engineer would have just fully applied the locomotive break and independent break at the same time and waited for it to fully stop.
@@trainenthusiastproductions5219 diesel doesn't light let alone explode until very hot or very high pressure not gonna ignite. Like jet fuel it's really falking hard to light with any less than a blow torch
I remember this happening. We were at home when the train got away and we saw it on the news. There’s a set of CSX tracks that ran through our back yard and our ghetto behinds ran outside to watch it roll past as soon as we found out it was getting close. Channel 8 had their news chopper following it and we knew how close it was.
@@ohioandnortheastern Unfortunately no and I wish I took my camera with me. I wouldn’t have had it set up in time either by the time it passed by. That was wild though and I wasn’t the only one headed that way to check it out.
There's an old WWII commando training film here on RUclips (or at least there was) called "How to stop a train". Large sections of track need to be removed to stop a train once it's got going, there's no surprise that those little derailing gimmicks didn't work on a train at speed...
Theres no reason to even bother with that unless you're gonna repaint it and rebuild it to as-built CR paint. Glorifying an incident like this is a pretty dumb idea, and why bother preserving a rebuilt unit and sacrificing other ones to make it look similar to as-built? Seems like there are better locomotives to preserve than a rebuilt and butchered CSX SD40
@@oregonrailfan7046 Desktop controls, whether they're GE or EMD, rely on a much more absolute principle, though. While they are combined into a single controller, throttle and dynamic brake applications increase in separate directions. The setup on 8888 uses the same direction for dynamic brake and power application, which is confusing, and, as 8888 showed, potentially dangerous
@@hvymtal8566 if I remember correctly, on a desktop combined throttle/dynamic lever, pulling back from center applies throttle, pushing forward from center applies dynamics. Much less confusing than one lever to select throttle or dynamics, then another to control the power
Thanks to a trip to the National Railway Museum in my home of Montreal, Canada, I’ve gotten a chance to use one of those control stands (in a simulator) and I can entirely understand how one would make that mistake
Fact: the Wheeling & Lake Erie Railway (which my dad works for) helped make the unstoppable movie. 1206 was a wheeling engine painted. After filming, it was painted back into the wheeling’s colors and still operates today.
@@Moakmeister Their way of saying they don't want to be remembered for a major failure. Even though it was that one engineer's mistake, it was a CSX train at one point thundering down the track without an operator and that got the movie made about it. If someone approached to buy the last SD40-2 in service I'd imagine it would be a different response.
By setting the independent brakes, this disabled the alerter that would otherwise have brought the train to a stop through a penalty brake application (and PC trip of the engine).
Watched unstoppable for the first time tonight and almost instantly went to this video afterward. The thrill I got while watching it makes me wish I could see it for the first time again. It may have been exaggerated, but still a fantastic movie. Great video!
"Something's getting away!" America: Shoot it! Interesting how the lash-up scene was set up as a real plan in the actual event. I wonder how it would have turned out if 8888 got far enough to meet that train.
There aren’t that many great train movies, but unstoppable is really cool. It’s always fun to go back and watch as I learn more and more about how railroads work, I understand more of what’s going on in the movie.
FWIW: I was under the impression that railroad locomotives -- even back in 2001 when this happened -- had some kind of _dead man system_ built into the control station that would not allow the locomotive to operate without an operator present.
@@Allan_aka_RocKITEman oh no problem. i repaired EMD equipment for 12 years. I miss those contraptions sometimes. had these clowns actually shot the emergency button, it would have cut off the fuel pump relay.
I know next to nothing about trains and railroad. I had never heard of this until I saw the movie Unstoppable, I was kinda surprised to learn it was loosely based on a real event. However, I was surprised to learn that attempting to shoot the fuel shutoff button wasn’t Hollywood drama, but really attempted. It seems to me it would have been much more effective to shoot a bunch of holes into the fuel tanks. If the fuel leaks out, the engine won’t run, the train would eventually stop. Once again, I know very little about trains. I have no clue how much fuel a train carries, or how long it would take to drain. I’m guessing if punching a bunch of holes into the fuel tanks was a possibility, someone would have suggested it.
I personally live in the in the Toledo area and was born around the time this happened. My uncle used to work around that yard and others in the south east Toledo area until a few years ago; hired out as a contracted crew driver out in Walbridge. He’s told me a little bit about this story but wasn’t really involved in it at all.
Yes Yes Yes I agree 100%. We must stop at my house too, and at Burger king for the hamburger cheeseburger big mac whopper!!!!!! Then we shall run it to Cheyenne Wyoming and tripple hed with 4014 and 844 and 3985!!!1
@@vermilionrailfan5651 and 4501 and Durango and silver ton 476 and Amtrak 181 and challenger 3977 and and NW 1218 to go by my house and horshoe curve with the southwest Chief gobbles amen
I would have liked to have seen a shot looking at the couplers with some coupling noises when the other engine coupled to the back of the train. Nothing big just something I would have liked to have seen. great video though, really unpacks the phenomenon in an efficient way
Yep I remember watching the movie unstoppable for the first time witch was 11 years ago! And four years ago was when I first heard about the crazy 8 story that inspired the movie! Pretty intense situation if you know what I mean I’m not gonna lie. 😊
I've lived in Northwest Ohio my entire life and remember this incident. I've watched every RUclips video that I've found on it and I can't believed that none of them have used Jailbreak by Thin Lizzy in their sound track.
Very well put together. In my opinion, most amateur rail mini-documentaries tend to either be extraordinarily boring, or the presenter takes it way over the top to attempt to make it not boring. You found a good mix between the two: you calmly told the story in an interesting way that held attention to give a brief overview
In Poland we have RADIO STOP system, that wuld be probably helpfull in cases like that. The system works on short radio waves, all trains who(?) pickup the signal automaticly disengages engine and apply breakes. This is usefull but have been abused. If i'm not misteaken our trains also have automatic stop sensors that can detect whenever stop signal is being send by transsmiter, then the system informs engineer that signal have been send, if not deleted in 4 minutes the train stops, and can be turn on again after complete stop only.
@@ramasaki1 That I do not know. Upon a quick googling I don't see it listed in any articles either. Only the names of the guys who stopped the train. A deeper dive could probably turn the information up.
5:50 SD40-3 is the new registration for 8888, for those looking for it! Apparently, they weren't interested in saving it for a railroad museum or something!
Well it could have been 666 EJ&E had one I don't know if it is still around or renumbered since CN took over and UP had one but to many people complained about it so it was renumbered
In Germany, it wouldnt possible. After 30 seconds, the loco says: „Sifa, Sifa, Sifa, Sifa Hwangsbremsung“and the train stops. Sifa is the german dead man switch, that you have to release/push every 30 seconds
What I still don't get about that incident is, if they were willing to derail the whole train and the portable derailer wouldn't work, why didn't they get an earthmover to destroy the track in its path? Or, for that matter, why not get a helicopter to put an engineer - or a stunt-man or someone who can be talked through applying the brakes - onto the engine?
@@ptdecker No problem, Todd. It does seem like a pretty glaring oversight in design to not require the deadman switch when the brake is applied. I believe newer locomotives do not have this same oversight.
I never noticed that some locomotives have different dynamic brake types until now. Weird, as I have driven RLC locomotives with both control stand types in Garry's Mod
Imagine the kind of crap that would of happened if they fixed the big boy before this and it happened to be in the area and saved the day. That would of been sick
As For 8888 And 8392 Some Railroad Museums Try To Buy CSX 8888 But CSX Refused Unfortunately In 2016 8888 Was Rebuilt Into SD40-3 YN3b Renumbered 4389 As For CSX 8392 It Was Retired From CSX And Was Sold To The National Railway Equipment (NRE)
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Hit dat independnet.
HIT IT AGAIN
ITS EVEN FUNNIER THAT FORT WAYNE COMMENTED 💀
Dump le tren xddd
FRANK WE’RE GONNA RIP RIGHT OFF
@@evanj2400 no we're not we're just stretching
Fun fact: “Unstoppable” was filmed on mostly Wheeling and Lake Erie property. And the 1206 units still operate today as WE 6353 and WE 6354
@@topher7167 the "runaway" scene and the ending scene were filmed on Wheeling property. The train "gets away" out of the west end of Brewster yard and when they catch up to the train and stop it, it's on the W&LE river subdivision going north through Martin's Ferry, OH.
I've been working for the W&LE for almost three years now as a conductor and it's super cool to spot where all the Wheeling locations are. Even the WE 6364 has scribbled "Denzel was here" inside the cab just above the isolation switch lol
@@topher7167 The closing credits in Unstoppable credit both the Wheeling and Lake Erie and Western NY and Pennsylvania Railroads
777 Yes
Oh boy you probably know Chris Howell.
@@tfi6279 yeah. He’s a good dude. Just saw him the other day on a train going to the AVR
*RON, GET THE GUN! WE GOT A TRAIN TO SHOOT*
Most American thing ever.
You almost got it just change shoot to hunt
I've met with some people from CSX corporate before. Yes they're still a company at the end of the day, but they also expressed to me more times than I can mention how much love, and appreciation they have for their fanbase, their community, and country. I hope to see CSX continue successfully on the high iron, until the end of time itself.
As far as their love for employees, though. Well, it's not as bad as some.
@@KutWrite
They treat us .....ok
I've heard horror stories about a few other railroads.
I'm looking at you NS
Isn't csx an evil company though
@@bradleybaker8872
Evil ???
How so ??
No different than any other company I suppose, driven by the $$$
@@Dougie1969 You're right, they are driven by fat stacks
I was an engineer for CSX from 1998 - 2004. 8888 came through Barr yard. I had to climb on it and read all the graffiti. 'My little runaway' was all over the cab. Fun times.. Lol
Rick. Why didn't the alerter shut it down?
@@berkshiredave9766 I really don't know. Possibly, the engineer applied the independent brake. That might have stopped the alerter from activating the system. Just a theory though.
The legendary Barr yard blue island
I know I am over a year too late but a few facts that you missed that I believe should be mentioned in this video...
The engineer who was at the controls of 8888 as it was making its movement was never fired from CSX. He was 2nd in Seniority in Stanley Yard and had no prior records of incidents prior to this. CSX put him back on the job and he worked for CSX all the way up to 2015 when he hired out. He is now happily retired from CSX. I know this because I have a friend who knows this engineer personally.
Another interesting fact that was missed is when the train hit that portable derailer at Galatea. Galatea is also known as North Baltimore, and the derailer was not placed on the mainline. The dispatcher routed the Runaway Train into the siding, where the derailer was placed at roughly the middle of the siding.
Another fact that was not discussed in the video was the situation at Bowling Green University. The Runaway Train passed right by the Bowling Green University Campus, which was partially evacuated due to the emergency.
Another fun fact is when the train started passing through Findlay, a CNN Helicopter started broadcasting the event live on National Television. After this, the Governor of Ohio at the time Bob Taft as well as US President George W. Bush was alerted of the escalating crisis. When the incident concluded, George W. Bush personally visited Ohio and congratulated the heroes to those involved and became a supporter in legislation to prevent this incident from happening again.
I would also like to expand on part 3:43 where you state that more derailing attempts were set up. The actual concern was that on the route that the train was traveling on, the train would have come into Columbus traveling through Ridgeway, Marysville, and eventually coming in through the Northwest side of Columbus. There was a curve at N Soulder Avenue where the line that the train was on joins the Norfolk Southern, and it was moving too fast to make that corner. The initial plan was to derail the train at Ridgeway, however, there was a train already blocking the corner at Ridgeway.
4:10 I would also like to point out that it wasn't the dispatcher who placed the Kenton Local to intervene. The person who actually ordered that was a person by the name of Jon Hosfield. Jon Hosfield was the train master for both the Toledo Branch and the Scottslawn Secondary, and he had been following the train South since it left Stanley Yard. He was the guy who actually hopped on board and stopped the Runaway Locomotive in Kenton.
Also, another funny side note. In 2005, 8888 actually suffered another accident and the engine became damaged, however, CSX decided to rebuild the locomotive. After this accident people who actually worked on it began believing that the engine was cursed lol
The “Crazy 8’s Incident” is probably the last runaway we will see for a while or ever mainly because the technology we have now is designed to stop situations like this from happening.
Its still crazy tho that even in the year 2001 their first two options were to derail it, then try shooting at a small moving button 😆
Yes and the funny part is who’s idea was it to shoot a button right next to a diesel tank that would explode if it were to be shot at. Just comment sense to not shoot it.
And it would of never happened if the engineer would have just fully applied the locomotive break and independent break at the same time and waited for it to fully stop.
@@trainenthusiastproductions5219 diesel doesn't light let alone explode until very hot or very high pressure not gonna ignite. Like jet fuel it's really falking hard to light with any less than a blow torch
@@derrekvanee4567 The fuel for the SR-71 and the A12 also has high flashpoint. You can actually put out a fire with the fuel that the spy planes used.
I remember this happening. We were at home when the train got away and we saw it on the news. There’s a set of CSX tracks that ran through our back yard and our ghetto behinds ran outside to watch it roll past as soon as we found out it was getting close. Channel 8 had their news chopper following it and we knew how close it was.
Did you take a video of the train?
@@ohioandnortheastern Unfortunately no and I wish I took my camera with me. I wouldn’t have had it set up in time either by the time it passed by. That was wild though and I wasn’t the only one headed that way to check it out.
There's an old WWII commando training film here on RUclips (or at least there was) called "How to stop a train". Large sections of track need to be removed to stop a train once it's got going, there's no surprise that those little derailing gimmicks didn't work on a train at speed...
I probably would’ve changed a set of points to put it into a small siding and just let it run off the edge of the tracks and fall over.
Even though it’s now a dash 3 rebuild I atleast hope 8888 (now 4389) is preserved when it’s retired
me too
Same
@@kdenaviation Your right, But there is hope
Theres no reason to even bother with that unless you're gonna repaint it and rebuild it to as-built CR paint. Glorifying an incident like this is a pretty dumb idea, and why bother preserving a rebuilt unit and sacrificing other ones to make it look similar to as-built? Seems like there are better locomotives to preserve than a rebuilt and butchered CSX SD40
@@kyaing9047 I guess so.....
I never knew that locomotives had a control stand with a combined dynamic brake/throttle control.
i mean GE locomotives with desktop controls have that
yep quite common
Same
@@oregonrailfan7046 Desktop controls, whether they're GE or EMD, rely on a much more absolute principle, though. While they are combined into a single controller, throttle and dynamic brake applications increase in separate directions. The setup on 8888 uses the same direction for dynamic brake and power application, which is confusing, and, as 8888 showed, potentially dangerous
@@hvymtal8566 if I remember correctly, on a desktop combined throttle/dynamic lever, pulling back from center applies throttle, pushing forward from center applies dynamics. Much less confusing than one lever to select throttle or dynamics, then another to control the power
Thanks to a trip to the National Railway Museum in my home of Montreal, Canada, I’ve gotten a chance to use one of those control stands (in a simulator) and I can entirely understand how one would make that mistake
Fact: the Wheeling & Lake Erie Railway (which my dad works for) helped make the unstoppable movie. 1206 was a wheeling engine painted. After filming, it was painted back into the wheeling’s colors and still operates today.
*Cues Stanton Curve Theme*
Or runaway train theme
Y’know, I wish people could’ve bought 8888 off CSX before they rebuilt it to at least have 1 memorable SD40-2 in preservation
A lot of people tried to buy it, but CSX thought it wasn’t worth preserving.
@@Moakmeister Their way of saying they don't want to be remembered for a major failure. Even though it was that one engineer's mistake, it was a CSX train at one point thundering down the track without an operator and that got the movie made about it. If someone approached to buy the last SD40-2 in service I'd imagine it would be a different response.
By setting the independent brakes, this disabled the alerter that would otherwise have brought the train to a stop through a penalty brake application (and PC trip of the engine).
Watched unstoppable for the first time tonight and almost instantly went to this video afterward. The thrill I got while watching it makes me wish I could see it for the first time again. It may have been exaggerated, but still a fantastic movie. Great video!
Yeah that movie is so underrated.
*Crazy Train intensifies*
"Something's getting away!"
America: Shoot it!
Interesting how the lash-up scene was set up as a real plan in the actual event. I wonder how it would have turned out if 8888 got far enough to meet that train.
Unstoppable was one of my favorite movies as a child, I never really knew the movie was based off a true story.
Interesting video. Now I know where the story/movie of Unstoppable comes from... Good video hope to see more videos from you... 💯
The engineer on the chase engine was at our annual dinner , and told us the whole story and he was in the movie that came out about it .
There aren’t that many great train movies, but unstoppable is really cool. It’s always fun to go back and watch as I learn more and more about how railroads work, I understand more of what’s going on in the movie.
One of my favorite incidents.
Thanks for putting in the soundtrack!
this was one of the incidents that the movie unstoppable was based on
Which he mentions in the video
Imagine the resume of the driver of 8392
“Ok so it says here you chasrd a runaway train, backwards?”
“You have no idea”
FWIW: I was under the impression that railroad locomotives -- even back in 2001 when this happened -- had some kind of _dead man system_ built into the control station that would not allow the locomotive to operate without an operator present.
They do however the air hoses that would normally allow it to happen were not connected
@@geocachingwomble >>> Okay -- Thanks.
because the brakes were applied, the alertor system is disabled. had the brakes been released, it would have shut down in 45 seconds or so.
@@krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975 >>> Thanks.
@@Allan_aka_RocKITEman oh no problem. i repaired EMD equipment for 12 years. I miss those contraptions sometimes. had these clowns actually shot the emergency button, it would have cut off the fuel pump relay.
Best explanation I've heard of this, very detailed video. Thanks!
Happy Anniversary of CSX Runaway.
dang...20th anniversary...
Great job, I am glad this showed up in my recommended videos.
I know next to nothing about trains and railroad. I had never heard of this until I saw the movie Unstoppable, I was kinda surprised to learn it was loosely based on a real event. However, I was surprised to learn that attempting to shoot the fuel shutoff button wasn’t Hollywood drama, but really attempted. It seems to me it would have been much more effective to shoot a bunch of holes into the fuel tanks. If the fuel leaks out, the engine won’t run, the train would eventually stop.
Once again, I know very little about trains. I have no clue how much fuel a train carries, or how long it would take to drain. I’m guessing if punching a bunch of holes into the fuel tanks was a possibility, someone would have suggested it.
I personally live in the in the Toledo area and was born around the time this happened. My uncle used to work around that yard and others in the south east Toledo area until a few years ago; hired out as a contracted crew driver out in Walbridge. He’s told me a little bit about this story but wasn’t really involved in it at all.
Love that you used some footage from Train Sim World for this.
Excellent video! With the wide adoption of PSR on the American Class-1's, I wouldn't be surprised if a similar incident happened in the near future
How are you everywhere I look
@@nicatouandnewengland Probably because I watch too many train videos in my spare time
@@mainecoastrailfan haha I hear that!
I'm waiting for it too.
Maybe a 666 train going runaway 🤔 (writing the movie script already)
The engineer is now working in the fast food industry.
Another great video!
Very good video Jonathan. They need to restore 8888 and run it on the mainline to locations like my house and horshoe curve in Durango.
How 'bout no?
Yes Yes Yes I agree 100%. We must stop at my house too, and at Burger king for the hamburger cheeseburger big mac whopper!!!!!! Then we shall run it to Cheyenne Wyoming and tripple hed with 4014 and 844 and 3985!!!1
@@vermilionrailfan5651 and 4501 and Durango and silver ton 476 and Amtrak 181 and challenger 3977 and and NW 1218 to go by my house and horshoe curve with the southwest Chief gobbles amen
POV: your here from They should restore it and run it on the main line
@@brandonb120kg gobbles
I Loved Your Channel
I would have liked to have seen a shot looking at the couplers with some coupling noises when the other engine coupled to the back of the train. Nothing big just something I would have liked to have seen. great video though, really unpacks the phenomenon in an efficient way
"Locomotive Cabs May Be Unoccupied"
how ironic
Great video!
Thanks!
Very cool and great video! It is amazing to think how many incidents happen that are human error that dont make it beyond a company or safety folks.
I'm surprised that they weren't fitted with vigilance control or anything like that
A friend of mine worked on the engine at the CSX shop.
You know I'm curious to the current whereabouts of CSX 8392 the engine that help stop the runaway.
This Makes Me Want To Watch The Unstoppable
It's a train, not a chipmunk Dewey!
The station master called ahead.
"Clear the Line!" He said. "It's a runaway train!"
Signals were changed and points were switched.
Thomas and the jet engine reference.
@@ronanvave560I love that episode!
Same!
Yep I remember watching the movie unstoppable for the first time witch was 11 years ago! And four years ago was when I first heard about the crazy 8 story that inspired the movie! Pretty intense situation if you know what I mean I’m not gonna lie. 😊
Nice reenactment of the 8888 incident.
I've lived in Northwest Ohio my entire life and remember this incident. I've watched every RUclips video that I've found on it and I can't believed that none of them have used Jailbreak by Thin Lizzy in their sound track.
Very well put together. In my opinion, most amateur rail mini-documentaries tend to either be extraordinarily boring, or the presenter takes it way over the top to attempt to make it not boring. You found a good mix between the two: you calmly told the story in an interesting way that held attention to give a brief overview
My dad was one of the builders of 8888
In Poland we have RADIO STOP system, that wuld be probably helpfull in cases like that. The system works on short radio waves, all trains who(?) pickup the signal automaticly disengages engine and apply breakes. This is usefull but have been abused. If i'm not misteaken our trains also have automatic stop sensors that can detect whenever stop signal is being send by transsmiter, then the system informs engineer that signal have been send, if not deleted in 4 minutes the train stops, and can be turn on again after complete stop only.
Ofc, Conrail had something to do with it, no wonder the engine was so troublesome
I know the movie Unstoppable was based on this incident but didn't know by how much.
The AWVR reference
You mean the AWVR *inspiration.*
Trip optimizer is a GE thing, not EMD
The Engineer is now pursuing a career in the fast food industry.
What is his name?
@@ramasaki1 Since the quote is from the movie the movie engineer's name was Dewey
@@Shane-Singleton I mean the real engineer's name
@@ramasaki1 That I do not know. Upon a quick googling I don't see it listed in any articles either. Only the names of the guys who stopped the train. A deeper dive could probably turn the information up.
@@Shane-Singleton They never released the engineers name to the public.
5:50
SD40-3 is the new registration for 8888, for those looking for it!
Apparently, they weren't interested in saving it for a railroad museum or something!
Isn't it amazing that this 1 in a 1000000000 situation happens with a train that's name is 8888
Well it could have been 666 EJ&E had one I don't know if it is still around or renumbered since CN took over and UP had one but to many people complained about it so it was renumbered
8888 lives on as 4389 if anyone was wondering.
Nice!
Thanks!
So CSX 8888 had a Composite control stand and was changed to a modern control stand
In Germany, it wouldnt possible. After 30 seconds, the loco says: „Sifa, Sifa, Sifa, Sifa Hwangsbremsung“and the train stops. Sifa is the german dead man switch, that you have to release/push every 30 seconds
Same in Australia
we aren't so advanced here in USA. we only stop at the sound of a shotgun engaging.
Nice do you still take request for seeing trainz ?
A change was made to one brand of locomotive's controls after this incident.
there are still some of those old controllers out there. railways will run anything until it breaks completely.
nice video
@@gamestv-jg5gr stfu
I remember seeing a live shot on WTOL that day
What I still don't get about that incident is, if they were willing to derail the whole train and the portable derailer wouldn't work, why didn't they get an earthmover to destroy the track in its path?
Or, for that matter, why not get a helicopter to put an engineer - or a stunt-man or someone who can be talked through applying the brakes - onto the engine?
Chase it down on a dirt bike or a horse why don’t ya
Interesting… I always thought trains had a deadman switch
8888 did. By setting the independent brake, the engineer bypassed the dead man’s switch.
@@fluffyty19 Thank you for the info, Tyler. Amazing he bypassed it... bypass and you get... a runaway train. Imagine that! :-)
@@ptdecker No problem, Todd. It does seem like a pretty glaring oversight in design to not require the deadman switch when the brake is applied. I believe newer locomotives do not have this same oversight.
I never noticed that some locomotives have different dynamic brake types until now. Weird, as I have driven RLC locomotives with both control stand types in Garry's Mod
Except you cant "drive" a locomotive, you run or operate it... shame on you
@@alexander1485 He's Talking about in a game, In this Sed game, you can DRIVE locomotives VIA THE GAME, Read the whole thing next time.
Loving the content!
6:32 As yes this was indeed Tony Scott's Final Film he Directed before he died 2 Years Later in 2012.
7:46 Bear mountain River sub!! Nice!
I love unstoppable
Superb animation!!!
The video is so good 😊
Couldn’t the locomotive be converted back to a SD40-2?
1 thing: upgrading components and the dreaded SpongeBob cab
Wha how did you get the awvr 1206 oh nvm trainz download station
NS had a Dash9 40c numbered 8888, was a lot of accidents and weird stuff happened with it..
Sadly, there’s only one video that I could find on 8888 (now 4389) which is 4 years old
I saw the movie, but never knew of the real disaster until I watered Thunderbolt’s documentary 2-3 years ago. Sorry they didn’t preserve the engine.
It’s still around just kind of ugly
It still lives as CSX 4389. New number and new "Spongebob square cab" after being rebuilt into an SD40-3
I know, but it’s just not the same.
I can hear the chase theme from Thunderbirds!
Song song stoppable movie is based off of crazy eights incident
Hey, I had a question. How do you shoot the pictures in burst and video, or is that just someone nearby? Thanks!
The best train movie vus far "unstoppable"
What about 'Runaway Train' (1985)?
@@blazerocker1734 I haven't seen it yet
Silver Streak (1975)
I watched that movie initially because they went over the Nicholson bridge
Imagine the kind of crap that would of happened if they fixed the big boy before this and it happened to be in the area and saved the day. That would of been sick
*Muh dynamics canceled my emergency braking*
Nice
4:10 nice horn
Well done.
This movie was great. Denzel did a great job.
Fun fact: 8888's conrail number was #6410
Hey 8888 got towed by another engine with a single but triple digit number
I'm gonna subscribe!
SD40-2 locos are my fav locomotives
As For 8888 And 8392 Some Railroad Museums Try To Buy CSX 8888 But CSX Refused Unfortunately In 2016 8888 Was Rebuilt Into SD40-3 YN3b Renumbered 4389 As For CSX 8392 It Was Retired From CSX And Was Sold To The National Railway Equipment (NRE)