1960 Panhard PL 17 - Jay Leno's Garage

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  • @tonyduncan9852
    @tonyduncan9852 8 лет назад +4

    I did once earnestly desire one of these. But I was a penniless student and settled for a Citroen 2CV Bijou, with a DS-like streamlined fibreglass body, and an engine only half the size, for twenty-five pounds sterling. It did 70 mph and ran 70 miles on an imperial gallon, but not in rain or blustery conditions. It never lost traction, and always climbed snowy hills when no other wheeled vehicle could. It was a rather noisy and ugly little thing - and unfortunately died of corrosion - but while I had it, I was in love.

  • @Stregax
    @Stregax 5 лет назад +27

    In my childhood I spent some years in Geneva (French part of Switzerland.) There was one Panhard on our street and few in the neighborhood, the sound is so unique, like a motorcycle in a barn. The Citroëns that would stand up by themselves and the sound of the Panhards is so closely related to my French childhood.

  • @Lajos279
    @Lajos279 8 лет назад +36

    AT LAST!!! So many episodes of Jay's Garage, and always I saw this PL17 standing in the corner and I couldn't keep my eyes from it... I'm a Dutch guy and know the Panhard's very well from my youth, and I loved them so much! SO happy to see and hear this wonderful car again! I still remember how sad I felt when Panhard was taken over by Citroen. Such inventive automobiles, like Jay says, and together with Daimler (Mercedes) Benz and Peugeot one of the oldest car companies in the world. Model 24CT (the coupé) is also an incredible beauty! So if you Americans don't know these cars: google! Thank you Jay for this wonderful video!

  • @woodmanAK07
    @woodmanAK07 4 года назад +5

    We had a black 1960 Dyna.Z in Montreal for several years in the mid-sixties. Red and black interior. Economical, safe in the snow, reliable and huge inside with the flat floor, rounded roof and wide bench seats. Air cooled 2 cyl would start straight away in sub-zero February mornings, while our other car - a ‘56 Pontiac Pathfinder sat in the garage with its engine oil heater keeping its block warm. There was a dealership downtown in Sherbrooke Street if I remember correctly, that also sold Citroen cars. There may be some examples still around, but the road salt and sand used to keep icy Canadian roads under control in winter sure took its toll on sheet metal. Good memories: thank you Jay !

  • @MrPaige222
    @MrPaige222 4 года назад +15

    This car is living proof that the older cars were about fun...the guy who designed this little jewel obviously loved his job...the details are amazing and the whole thing is so cohesive from stem to stern...

    • @michaelbenardo5695
      @michaelbenardo5695 2 года назад +2

      That's because they were designed for styling, performance, comfort, and, something that cars designed by computers just don't have, CHARACTER and FEEL.

  • @yannickdubois6651
    @yannickdubois6651 8 лет назад +77

    I'm 55, I'm french and the "PL17" was my grandpa's car in the 60'...my grandparents smoke a lot of "Gauloises" cigarettes in this car when I was on rear seats 😀 You can put three people on the front seats like an american car!!! 😎 aahhh memories. ..

    • @AightBro123
      @AightBro123 7 лет назад

      Yannick Dubois you can fit 6 people in the back and front of a American car

    • @stephanesonneville
      @stephanesonneville 6 лет назад +19

      No, you can't put 3 americans in the back or front seat - they're too fat.

    • @prof.m.ottozeeejcdecs9998
      @prof.m.ottozeeejcdecs9998 6 лет назад +4

      ... ;-) but won't get 40 miles per gallon! This little thing could reach 100 mph top speed, had a nice trunk, easy to work on engine and lots of interior space. Actually a better car than the Citroen 2 CV, especially the aluminum bodied ones!

    • @zoperxplex
      @zoperxplex 6 лет назад +4

      Too bad they no longer build cars like this. Simple engines are too polluting and inefficient.

    • @knitterscheidt
      @knitterscheidt 5 лет назад +7

      My grandad had one of these in the early 60s in the U.S. He was German but scolded me when I said he should get a Beetle. As a kid I loved riding in the backseat looking at the beautiful dash. He drove it to work everyday. His other car was a 55 Olds Rocket 88, some difference huh?

  • @GreekFenah
    @GreekFenah 8 лет назад +38

    This is why I like Jays Channel. There's always a car out there you've never heard of, and yet there interesting and cool, and I love learning of their existence. Thanks Jay!

    • @NormAppleton
      @NormAppleton 2 года назад +1

      Panhard made armoured cars for the French army.

    • @marcuswide5200
      @marcuswide5200 Год назад

      Remember these when we holidayed in France in the late 50s and early 60s, looking like inflated “dodgem” cars, with a unique sound. Loved them. Didn’t the brakes use the wheel rims as part of the braking system?

  • @Taugtaug
    @Taugtaug 8 лет назад +156

    I love, that Jay wants to collect interesting cars, expensive or cheap, it doesn't matter. Other car collectors only collect expensive fancy stuff like ferrari, Porsche, Bugatti, mostly to show off. That is the difference between a real car guy and people who doesn't know how to spend their money and spend it on expensive cars-

    • @ramcharger154
      @ramcharger154 8 лет назад +14

      He's a car guy from the Steve Mcqueen era of car guys. People that had to get their hands dirty before they took up expensive hobbies. I dig Jay.

    • @fathertime1331
      @fathertime1331 8 лет назад +8

      Many people think Jay Leno wears denim for some effect. He's like Trump. A blue collar guy with a mountain of money. I feel sad for those who live their life with bitter envy.

    • @ramcharger154
      @ramcharger154 8 лет назад +20

      Father Time Wait. What? Trump is blue collar?

    • @rickc2102
      @rickc2102 8 лет назад +19

      Ahahaha that's absurdly funny! Trump was born with a silver blue-collar-worker in his mouth.

    • @fathertime1331
      @fathertime1331 8 лет назад +1

      @JR
      Wait. What? You don't know what a locker room is?

  • @askmaxim
    @askmaxim 6 лет назад +37

    When you talk about French cars and say "Detroit" it makes me smile. Because detroit is a French word and is pronounced 'de-truah' which means "a straight" (between two water systems)

    • @drm9979
      @drm9979 4 года назад +6

      spelled "strait". but the point was very interesting,

    • @weaponofmassconstruction1940
      @weaponofmassconstruction1940 4 года назад

      @@drm9979 Can you have a bent strait? A straight strait? 🤔

    • @chrispbacon3042
      @chrispbacon3042 3 года назад

      @@drm9979 ...Spelt.

    • @Thommadura
      @Thommadura 3 года назад

      @@chrispbacon3042 In American, the correct usage is Spelled. Spelt is rarely used if at all today
      In British, both spelt and spelled are acceptable usage although due the influence of the now Dominant form, Spelled is used more often.
      This being the internet, not formal communication, and a place where shortcuts of ALL types have been used, as long as a person can understand what is being "said", the need for a 3rd grade British teacher to correct spelling does not exist.

    • @callmeishmael7452
      @callmeishmael7452 3 года назад

      From which the word ‘trough’ was derived. The Trough.

  • @LMacNeill
    @LMacNeill 8 лет назад +251

    60 HP out of an 850 cc engine in 1960?! *Really* impressive for that day!

    • @dcanmore
      @dcanmore 8 лет назад +20

      I would say! Most cars that had an engine as small as that in the 1960s made less than 40hp. It took performance versions of Minis, Hillman Imps and Fiat 500s to squeeze a lot more power from sub-900cc motors.

    • @brunoraoni
      @brunoraoni 8 лет назад +14

      that actually put some hatch backs from the 90's to 2000's that had a 1000cc engine to shame, not to mention that they had double the cylinders. like seriously, 1000c back in those days had like 70 to 80hp, consedring that they had more cc's and 2 more cylinders... thats really not enouth, that little engine sure was advance for its time.

    • @deciusvarus
      @deciusvarus 8 лет назад +14

      In the 70s and 80s the Non turbo Mercedes 300D got just under 80HP but it had a 3000cc engine.

    • @mikejohnson7696
      @mikejohnson7696 7 лет назад +13

      Lord Blackworth : OK, that's a bad comparison. 300D was designed for extreme durability. Like 300K Miles before a rebuild. & as cool as this Panhard is, it is LOUD. .

    • @utah133
      @utah133 7 лет назад +6

      The HP must come from the hemi heads and high revs. I can't imagine it has high compression, as that would require high octane. That wasn't commonly available in Europe then, was it?

  • @francismallette
    @francismallette 8 лет назад +21

    Bonjour M. Leno,
    I know that Panhard Levasseur is a pioneer, I've seen their name many times, but this video made me realize that I know nothing about their cars. Showing us this jewel is like opening a new chest, I just want to dig out some more. Thank you Mr Leno for sharing your passion.
    To understand french roads is to understand french cars, specially those of Paris. Back in the day, Paris had brick roads. Driving on old brick roads is noisy, and the whole car start shaking. Speed enhance noise and vibration. This explain why french cars have such good suspension. Their cars are comfortable, because their roads are not.
    At the oppposite, USA probably have the best roads in the world, no need for good suspension, no need for suspension at all, the tires alone can do the job. This is why hardtail motorcycles, only make sense in the USA. Don't ride those in Paris...
    Thank you and have a nice day

    • @alexandresalim8838
      @alexandresalim8838 6 лет назад

      You're right...never ever ride hard tailed motorcycle around Paris...or you will have bad scoliosis after doing that...

    • @giovanni4443
      @giovanni4443 5 лет назад

      USA has probably the best roads in the world... really??? Is it a joke bro?

    • @mrtyreus0
      @mrtyreus0 4 года назад

      @@giovanni4443 things have changed. Back then, yes. These days we could all benefit with the French ethos. Love driving my Audi, but a Citroen SM would make my commute a dream these days.

  • @bocahlucu6904
    @bocahlucu6904 Год назад +1

    Kesini gara-gara liat pidio babg arik motor yang ngreview garasi terbengkalai di Blitar. Penasaran dg mobil Pangard PL17 ini.
    Mobilnya lucu, keren, asik ternyata ada ya di Indonesia. Pasti orang kaya dulu yg punya.

  • @COCOTEIER
    @COCOTEIER 4 года назад +7

    Nice to see an American who really likes French cars. Good on you Jay, we love your videos ! Last time I've seen this Panhard in the streets I was a kid.

    • @NormAppleton
      @NormAppleton 2 года назад +1

      Nice thing about Jay, he loves French cars, and Swedish cars

  • @189951
    @189951 5 лет назад +3

    S’il y avait eu un autoradio qui aurait diffusé de la musique Française des années 60’ dans la voiture pendant la séquence vidéo ou vous roulez, on aurait pu croire que vous étiez sur des routes du sud de la France !!!
    Très belle restauration et magnifique collection de voitures !
    If there had been a car radio that would have played French music from the 60s in the car during the video sequence you were driving, you would have thought you were on roads in the south of France!
    Very beautiful restoration and magnificent collection of cars!

  • @hflivares1824
    @hflivares1824 7 лет назад +17

    Very surprising and moving to see a Panhard in US streets. In france we have rarely the opportunity to see a PL 17, even in old cars meetings.

  • @jackjmaheriii
    @jackjmaheriii 8 лет назад +2

    I think that 100 years from now our grandchildren will regard Jay Leno as the John Muir of automobiles. I'm thankful that his appreciation for automobiles runs both wide and deep.

  • @dominiquedourneau7425
    @dominiquedourneau7425 6 лет назад +4

    Think i wrote. That when i was a kid my gran pa was an ingénier for panhard...and yes back then it took his work home..
    he was very sad when i think citroen bought them..he devoted his life there..when they sold he was close to retired..
    But i remembered him talking about it...

  • @penjim
    @penjim 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks for doing this. The first one I ever saw was about 1967, sitting in a junk yard in Lompoc California. I was just 17 or 18 and had no way to rescue it. So happy they’re appreciated after so many years!

  • @BCUMF03
    @BCUMF03 8 лет назад +46

    Thank you Jay , for constantly introducing us all to virtually unknown , interesting vehicles. No one else does this so well.

    • @Ashethefoxxie
      @Ashethefoxxie 8 лет назад +1

      What I love so much about Jay's garage is that I might not like a weeks car, but I love the variety.

    • @ZerokillerOppel1
      @ZerokillerOppel1 7 лет назад

      Gregory Mahaits Here in Europe they are not so virtually unknown. I see one guy here in my city who uses it as a daily driver and on the highways I see them regularly.

    • @ZerokillerOppel1
      @ZerokillerOppel1 7 лет назад

      Paris has some gritty industrial sites too Jay. But that's not where the tourists go ofcourse...

  • @bodarville7860
    @bodarville7860 7 лет назад +2

    I Am an American hot rod guy but I really enjoy these profiles of rare and obscure cars. The way that hood opens is really unique.

  • @tomtrask_YT
    @tomtrask_YT 4 года назад +74

    "The French copy NO ONE, and no one copies the French" - Tom Magliozzi

    • @bernhardecklin7005
      @bernhardecklin7005 4 года назад +7

      Because no one can copy the French!

    • @bidibi83
      @bidibi83 4 года назад +2

      Greetings from France!

    • @emilianocaprili4160
      @emilianocaprili4160 4 года назад +3

      @@bernhardecklin7005 Because no one WANT copy the French!

    • @bernhardecklin7005
      @bernhardecklin7005 4 года назад +2

      @@emilianocaprili4160 Of course you're right..While the Italians were proud of their Fiat 1100 and 1500, France produced the Ami 6 and the DS.. Guess which concepts were superior! Besides that I love what comes from Italy, my Brera is the third Alfa I own. Besides that look what the Italians did to Lancia and you'll understand that to criticize the French Engineers out of Italy is not a serious option.

    • @emilianocaprili4160
      @emilianocaprili4160 4 года назад

      You are right, if at least I could console myself with the Ferrari, the Maserati, the Lamborghini, the new Gulia…

  • @ignatiuskhan
    @ignatiuskhan 4 года назад +2

    My uncle had the coupe version, Panhard 24. What a lovely little car that was...

  • @FlamingRobzilla
    @FlamingRobzilla 8 лет назад +5

    This is the kind of thing I love to learn about. Rare and exotic cars, that perhaps were not so rare in their day but are today. Steam powered, air powered, propane, diesel, petrol, electric, I love them all. And your tips on restoring vehicles like the fake spray on chrome and such are invaluable. Thank you so much for sharing, Jay.

  • @Titus-as-the-Roman
    @Titus-as-the-Roman 7 лет назад +2

    What a really cool "Little" car, it actually has some nice exhaust tones without sounding too much like a bumblebee, I think I'd like to have one ("Think" only because I've not driven one, but it appears to be pretty fun, something that's right my alley). Thanks a Bunch Jay for having this channel, as a non-sports playing, lower middle class youngster of the 60's (I'm 58 here in a couple months as of the date of this video), those in my social class eventually turned to cars as an after school activity through default, we simply didn't have much else to expend our energies on. Through trial and error and very little money to speak of, we all learned the hard way how to keep our beaters running, which I think does cause you to have more of an appreciation of Auto's and how they're built.

  • @stevenrix7277
    @stevenrix7277 8 лет назад +68

    Panhard, DS and 2 CV sont mes voitures favories de la France :D

    • @francoisuntel6238
      @francoisuntel6238 6 лет назад +2

      ma premiere voiture fut une renault 5 ;-) un vrai bolide....

    • @paveantelic7876
      @paveantelic7876 6 лет назад +1

      renault 4 :)

    • @ericdupont1326
      @ericdupont1326 6 лет назад +1

      Simca 1200S ; CG 1200S ; Sovam 1300 S ; Marcadier ; Jidé …...et bien sûr Ligier JS2 ( " tour de France " ) ! ! ! :-)

    • @southwell1970
      @southwell1970 5 лет назад

      PARIS RHONE mon grand père à un garage entier de pièce pour 24bt si intéressé

    • @fatdad64able
      @fatdad64able 5 лет назад

      Beautiful cars. Renault Alpine 1 too.

  • @pilou09100
    @pilou09100 7 месяцев назад +1

    Jay Leno : un des meilleurs critiques automobiles du monde. Je l’adore!

  • @etiennesourd3607
    @etiennesourd3607 Год назад +3

    Hey, I spent my childhood in France, and I remember around 1969 riding that same white Panhard with my young uncle, who had driven it from Lyon all the way to Normandy where I lived. We kids were ecstatic to ride this car, this was considered somehow a sport / performance car. Thanks Jay for this nice and very informative video, and making me relive a nice childhood memory!. Regards, Etienne.

  • @deckard541
    @deckard541 8 лет назад +2

    About 10 years ago I helped a friend of mine get one of these out of his barn. He had been storing an old Panhard like Jay's for a friend. It had been in his barn for about 10 years. We had to rock it back and forth to get the wheels to move.The brakes had frozen up. I have had a few classic American cars over the years so I'm into old weird cars. The Panhard was fascinating. The engine was so tiny. We got the car loaded on a flat bed tow truck to be towed from Northern Cal. to the San Francisco Bay Area. About 6 months later I asked if the guy was restoring that old car and what had happened with it. My friend told me that he had got the car back, put it in his detached garage to begin work on it and then... A short time later his garage caught fire and the car, being mostly aluminum, was completely destroyed. It wasn't even my car but that broke my heart. I thought it was so ironic that it had been preserved for 10 years in an old barn out in the woods and when it got moved to a nice comfortable location in a big city it got destroyed.A real shame.

  • @HarryMyhre
    @HarryMyhre 4 года назад +4

    this is one off the best episodes I have seen so far. Had *NEVER* seen one of these vehicles in my life.

  • @stephendunster1005
    @stephendunster1005 7 лет назад +1

    A neighbour of ours in Montreal had one. The family emigrated to Canada from Belgium, and brought their car with them. We all thought it was pretty unusual, then another neighbour bought a Citroen DS, and then Dad bought an Austin 1800; a super large Mini with the MGB engine transverse across the front driving the front wheels, with something called the hydrolastic suspension and painted Titian Beige; that was a good car in the snow ... and great in the rain .... with those Dunlop SP radials. Thanks Jay ... lots of fun.

  • @adamsmalec
    @adamsmalec 8 лет назад +5

    thank you!!! by far, the best episode of jay leno's garage ever. i am so in love with this car, ever since I saw this jewel introduced in one of the restoration blogs. Please do more of them, I know they're being worked on... Thank you

  • @steverolfeca
    @steverolfeca 8 лет назад +2

    We lived in San Franscisco in the late 50's. My dad started with a Renault 4CV, then traded up to a Panhard. This was the all-aluminum variety. Probably wouldn't have lasted as long as the low-stressed Beetle, but it was the sports car of its class, 1,100 lb and a 2-stroke engine, so it was a bit of a pocket rocket. Huge Alfin brake drums, so it could stop as well as handle. Ours was black, and we drove it across Death Valley on the way to New York. With the aluminum body, heat transfer was pretty intense- it would pretty much raise blisters if you laid your arm on the window sill...

  • @Carchaeology
    @Carchaeology 5 лет назад +6

    I still get emails on this car from when I had it advertised years ago. I always send them the link to this video...it obviously has the PERFECT new home. Thanks Jay!

  • @johnfalkenstine8377
    @johnfalkenstine8377 Год назад +1

    When I was a kid I lived in Garches by Paris. The railroad station was Marnes La Coquette. Right by the station was an entire fleet of these Panhards, just sitting derelict. The French were into newer cars and nobody wanted them. Around 1963.

  • @GregRaven
    @GregRaven 8 лет назад +3

    Jay, I used to know a guy who owned a Panard or two: Gerry McCabe in Venice. His daily driver was a Citroen DS19. He, too, liked them weird French cars.

  • @philhunt3843
    @philhunt3843 6 лет назад +2

    When I was racing an F prod Sprite at Bridgehampton ~1973, Harry Schneider, a French teacher (an American) raced a Deusch Bonnet in HP. He flat towed it with a Panhard with a spare engine and his two small boys on board. Often they would do an engine change in the paddock! Amazing! And one weekend, they went through two engines, putting the tow car engine in the race car, then back in the Panhard for the trip home to NW NJ. Remarkable! Their antics keeping the thing on track were interesting, but they certainly had fun!

  • @Evoy60
    @Evoy60 8 лет назад +4

    Jay you where good at hosting the "Tonight Show" but your great at hosting these videos and reviewing these vehicles. You are just like a kid in a candy store and your excitement and passion for doing this just flows out. Your amazing Mr. Leno and each time I am notified you have a new video out I drop everything and watch it immediately. Thanks and Take care "Sir".

  • @davehyde6207
    @davehyde6207 6 лет назад +1

    I remember these as a child, image before computer designed cars men took to draught boards and designed these to my mind masterpiece of engineering and style and people had jobs making them . Beautiful

  • @jasoncarpp7742
    @jasoncarpp7742 8 лет назад +14

    I've heard of the Panhard car, but I've never seen one in person. I find it more attractive than the VW Beetle.

    • @ignatiuskhan
      @ignatiuskhan 4 года назад

      Even in France, happy if you see one every three years.

  • @albertseabra8993
    @albertseabra8993 Год назад +1

    Great car!
    Very popular in Europe at the time.
    And the sporty model was great-looking and made the owners very lucky guys with the ladies -- Wow, you have a sport car!

  • @Skanzool
    @Skanzool 5 лет назад +4

    Great car. Thank you Jay Leno for loving and preserving these automotive gems.

  • @algrayson8965
    @algrayson8965 5 лет назад +1

    Lost all of my Panhards - 2 PL17s, Dyna Grand Standing, '57 Dyna.
    Fantastic motor. Each cylinder has one torsion bar valve spring for both valves. Cylinder heads are one piece with the cylinder barrels, no head gasket. Iron liners.
    A great book is "Panhard, la doyenne d‘avant garde," by Benoit Pérot. © éditions e.p.a., 83, rue de Rennes, 75006 Paris. 1979, 493 pp. Mine is 2e édition 1982. History of Panhard et Levassor.
    In 1890 Panhard et Levassor built two mid-engine voitures. The first "real" Panhard - front motor, rear wheel drive, was made 1891. The second one made was still in use in 1921, by l’abbé Gavois.

  • @06mustangCE
    @06mustangCE 8 лет назад +12

    I really like the sound of that motor.

  • @servicarrider
    @servicarrider 4 года назад +2

    Nowhere else are you going to see this stuff. The Tonight Show entertained people. Jay;s Garage educates people. Thanks, Jay.

  • @wizardmix
    @wizardmix 8 лет назад +127

    Jay!! Speaking of France, when are you going to redo the Citroen SM?? Please and Thank You!!

    • @Z-Twinturbo
      @Z-Twinturbo 8 лет назад +10

      Yes please, I wanna see that !

    • @trespire
      @trespire 8 лет назад +17

      I could talk a full hour about SM CX and Citroen technology.

    • @nachomanatjay
      @nachomanatjay 8 лет назад +8

      Citroen vid would be neat.

    • @Porschedude8
      @Porschedude8 8 лет назад +2

      Yes!!

    • @Z-Twinturbo
      @Z-Twinturbo 8 лет назад +11

      *****
      I beg to differ

  • @boson2916
    @boson2916 3 года назад +1

    In 1930s, racer Michel Doré and Georges Eyston were racing in Panhard 8 cylinders, very surprise to see this cute little Panhard in Leno's garage, i don't think there's other cars cuter than this, it's classic.

  • @frglee
    @frglee 8 лет назад +7

    A nice look at an unusual car. I think Jay is at his very best showing how much he likes stuff like this. For sure, French cars were always unique and original, and often damned clever and stylish too even if a bit strange sometimes. Some of the 1960's Eastern European stuff was even wierder. tho'. They even had big two cylinder two-stroke engines. The Wartburg, I recall as a kid in the UK, you filled up with gas and then added a pint of ordinary motor oil to the gas tank (and hoped it mixed nicely!)
    It's interesting how this retro white plastic 'space pod' dashboard look is enjoying a bit of a comeback at the moment in some European small cars, notably in the modern Fiat 500's. Myself, I think it's rather nice, The hi-tech modern functional dash in most modern cars gets a samey after a while, so retro looks (but with all the modern dials, presented in an imaginative way) can be quite refreshing.

    • @ExarchusDivision
      @ExarchusDivision 8 лет назад +1

      Most gas stations in the Eastern Bloc offered a mixture of gasoline and engine oil, the cars were that primitive back then.
      There were many attempts at creating an innovative automotive industry in a lot of the communist countries. Every last one of them was crushed by the Soviet government's puppets.

    • @brighton_dude
      @brighton_dude 8 лет назад

      Wasn't the Wartburg a triple?

    • @frglee
      @frglee 8 лет назад

      Yes,you are right. I stand corrected. It was the Trabant that had the 2 cylinder two stroke engine.

  • @mtrdude.6398
    @mtrdude.6398 8 лет назад +2

    These PL engines also have roller cam/lifters. The lifter body is made from alu so its very light. The head and cylinder is also cast in one piece so no head gasket. You have to do the valve seats from the the bottom of the cylinders. The cam gear has a fishbone pattern theeth so there is no axial force on the cam/crank. Also the oil light pressure switch is a wood plug in the center of the camshaft that pops out and activates a switch.

  • @kim007250
    @kim007250 8 лет назад +8

    noticed on the walk arounds jay has real respect for these old timers he's gentle opening doors/trunk & hood even when touching the aluminum trims

  • @albion2742
    @albion2742 8 лет назад +1

    As a kid in London I used to go to the Earls court motor show and always wanted a Panhaerd, never seen one in the States till now.They were always ahead in stying, as was Citroen. The first ones I saw were at the 1952 london show.

  • @ricardoguzman114
    @ricardoguzman114 8 лет назад +4

    What a really hip car. It's fascinating to see the unique engineering in this. The 60s mod interior is nice.

  • @JustWasted3HoursHere
    @JustWasted3HoursHere 3 года назад +1

    I love the fact that the ENTIRE front end and hood are one unit so that you have easy access to just about everything from the front.

  • @ps2hacker
    @ps2hacker 8 лет назад +47

    In Europe, they have a saying that goes something like "heaven is where the police are British, the chefs are French, and the mechanics are German. Hell is where the police are German, the chefs are British, and the mechanics are French.", but I haven't ever worked on a French car, and I hope I never have to.

    • @curbyweaver4606
      @curbyweaver4606 8 лет назад +5

      It's not old to someone who's never heard it . . . or someone like me who had forgotten it.

    • @christinefury7839
      @christinefury7839 8 лет назад +9

      Change the "police" for "humor" and the joke is right. In heaven the British provide the humor, in hell the Germans... Also, last I heard the Italian and Swiss are also included in which the Italians are the lovers and the Swiss the organizers in heaven whereas in hell it's all organized by Italians and the Swiss are the lovers.

    • @curbyweaver4606
      @curbyweaver4606 8 лет назад +3

      Christine Fury That's even funnier!

    • @ps2hacker
      @ps2hacker 8 лет назад +1

      Christine Fury
      Yeah, but your forgot about the Basque, they won't be very happy......

    • @RedRam331
      @RedRam331 6 лет назад +6

      You left out the best part. The whole saying goes like this: In Heaven, the cops are British, the chefs are French, the engineers are German, the lovers are Italian, and the Swiss keep everything organized. In Hell, the cops are German, chefs are British, the engineers are French, the lovers are Swiss, and the Italians keep everything organized.
      That courtesy of a Swiss tour guide on the Travel with Rick Steves podcast.

  • @ibnrochd6078
    @ibnrochd6078 3 года назад +1

    A friend of mine owns one of these. Sometimes the interior of the tigre had also tiger stripes, soo cool. And on the doorsteps of iluminum i guess were all small engravings of airplanes. I think even in the middle of the steering wheel column there is a wing like shape. The whole steering column is also very odd when you look at it. Real nice little baby that car, congrats leno for saving one and for enjoying it so well!

  • @jfrorn
    @jfrorn 8 лет назад +11

    Love the lines love the simplicity! Great car, never seen one before. I love JLG...

  • @lightningleaf23
    @lightningleaf23 8 лет назад +2

    French cars are very comfortable but they held the lap record for a front wheel drive car for ages at the Nurburing.

  • @doctorzaius4084
    @doctorzaius4084 8 лет назад +3

    Thanks for finally doing this one, Jay!! I've been looking forward to this episode forever.

  • @MrHighflyingclive
    @MrHighflyingclive 3 года назад

    The PL17 was the first car that I owned, so I was delighted to find this video!
    Back in the early 1970s, I bought mine for £30. More recently, I paid exactly the same amount for an obsolete Dinky Toy model of the same car :-)
    As you said, the PL17 has a multitude of design details. But here is one that you may not have noticed.
    The parking lights on the door pillars show a red lens forward and a red lens to the rear. Of course.
    But should you happen to park on the wrong side of the road at night, those parking lights can be rotated, so that oncoming traffic still sees a red light.
    I loved that thoughtful little detail!

  • @jcpjean-claude4446
    @jcpjean-claude4446 5 лет назад +3

    PL17 / P24 / Dyna Panhard....des voitures aux lignes fantastiques ( que j'ai vu rouler dans mon enfance ! ) j'adore le positionnement du rétroviseur conducteur !!!!!

  • @keithwalker6892
    @keithwalker6892 2 года назад +1

    I lived in Montreal at the time and there were quite a few various cars from Europe there ,including the DKW and of course Renault , Citroens and Peugeot and a car that floated. Look where rear vision mirror is.

  • @brettsalter3300
    @brettsalter3300 3 года назад +5

    An amazing episode Jay, and a truly interesting, beautiful car. Give me aluminium for brightwork ANY day. That dashboard..wow. Lovely to see the pleasure both you and your guests exude showing off and enjoying their (and your) cars.

  • @sheldonchapman8832
    @sheldonchapman8832 8 лет назад +2

    Thanks for showing me a car I had only heard about but never seen on the road. Makes me love french automotive eccentricity even more

  • @RichieRouge206
    @RichieRouge206 4 года назад +3

    That’s such a cool car, I have heard of Panhard but never seen a drive in one. That engine is so 2CV. What fabulous design details and a beautiful looking thing.

  • @jdefyn
    @jdefyn 2 года назад +1

    my dad bought one in the '60s and I just loved it : the soft roll, the engine sound, the inside roomyness, ah well, long time ago

  • @doctorlobsteroctopus
    @doctorlobsteroctopus 8 лет назад +129

    I know where 2 SEXY derived its interior styling from :)

    • @izaaz_h
      @izaaz_h 8 лет назад +28

      hahaha "Put your hands up!, Pull your pants down!"

    • @Galf506
      @Galf506 8 лет назад +1

      OH GOD HAHAHAH

    • @paulpaul5606
      @paulpaul5606 8 лет назад +1

      Very cool never even seen one before

    • @mikebrodeur12
      @mikebrodeur12 8 лет назад +5

      Hahaha I hope someone from mighty car mods sees this comment

    • @doctorlobsteroctopus
      @doctorlobsteroctopus 8 лет назад +3

      Haha me too man, that'd be greatness.

  • @asd36f
    @asd36f 3 года назад +1

    The PL 17 was a restyled Dyna Z. Unfortunately for Panhard, costs of the Dyna Z meant that they were forced to go to Citroen for financial assistance, which lead to the eventual takeover by Citroen and the ending of Panhard production in 1967.

  • @izzynutz2000
    @izzynutz2000 8 лет назад +6

    the reason for the eyebrow over the tail lights is so that it gives its shade against the sunshine because the bulbs were not powerful enough to see if the Sun was shining on it you could not see the lights

    • @ianfindlay865
      @ianfindlay865 5 лет назад +3

      Surely also a styling touch to echo the eyebrows over the headlights?

  • @stephencarrigg4371
    @stephencarrigg4371 8 лет назад +2

    What a neat little automobile, I like seeing the oddball stuff, but really is impressive to get that much power out of a motor that small, it seems the French did think out of the box.

  • @CamaroRick
    @CamaroRick 8 лет назад +17

    So thats where the name came from for the "panhard bar" suspension 9:47 "Pahh bar"

    • @--Zook--
      @--Zook-- 8 лет назад +4

      I must admit, I learned something new today. It was this.

    • @deciusvarus
      @deciusvarus 8 лет назад +6

      Those French love their superfluous letters.

  • @21cdartmouthian
    @21cdartmouthian 8 лет назад +1

    Cool car, never saw one before. Just got back from the UK and thought I would see a lot of cool cars. Well a E Type in Chester near the HD Dealer, a 2 door Aston Martin Vantage at Snowdon Mtn and last but not least to my surprise a 1967 Bullitt Green Fastback Mustang rumbling through the cobble streets of Edinburgh. Thanks Jay.

  • @ptgw4rlock956
    @ptgw4rlock956 8 лет назад +10

    40 miles to the gallon!!!! that's amazing....

  • @drfunkestein
    @drfunkestein 5 лет назад +1

    At the time in france Panhard was a kind of a futurist car. You can find it into a very famous french/ belgium cartoon call spirou. Futurist design for space car. But my favorite is the Panhard C.D. for charles deutsch and the panhard 24 ct and bt. But you also have the dyna z and the junior.

  • @NielsHeusinkveld
    @NielsHeusinkveld 8 лет назад +3

    The best thing about some of those old cars is they put interesting books in the trunk!

  • @stephensmith799
    @stephensmith799 7 лет назад +1

    The kid next door's Dad had a red one. How nice to hear that engine sound again. Thanks. Chris Weston, did you see this?

  • @emjayay
    @emjayay 5 лет назад +9

    "piece of kit" Jay has been reading Car magazine from the UK.

  • @dougsmith2954
    @dougsmith2954 7 лет назад

    I never tire of the Duesenberg pulling in the Garage, you hear the motor, gears, tires, and then the great horn.

  • @g00dfeeling
    @g00dfeeling 8 лет назад +12

    I would love to see Citroën CX reviewed in Jay Leno's Garage.

  • @knitterscheidt
    @knitterscheidt 7 лет назад +1

    my grandfather had one of these, remember it well as a kid, about '65, he was 1st generation German-American, when I said I thought VW was a better car he explained the errors in my thinking and went on to praise Citroen as well, my grandma refused to ride in it, she preferred his Olds 88, jeez women!

  • @mart_en
    @mart_en 4 года назад +9

    Wow, this guy looks amazing for his age !
    He lived in Europe as a teenager in 1963 ?
    That means he is around 70 now !
    Take his white beard away and he passes for 55 ...

  • @caesarillion
    @caesarillion 8 лет назад +1

    Nice. Ever heard of the Georgerat? It's a French sports car. My mom dated one of their race drivers. I never heard of it before or since! Thanks, Paul

  • @albion2742
    @albion2742 8 лет назад +5

    Jay, when are you going to get a Wartburg in your garage.1965 - 1970 will do.

  • @garyglesby2846
    @garyglesby2846 8 лет назад +2

    The view of the engine shows a plastic fuel filter inline before the fuel pump. EVEN though it is clamped in rubber hoses, this is VERY DANGEROUS to do. My old Volkswagen mechanic warned me in the 70's about these filters. They can become brittle due to heat and the plastic breaks spewing gasoline all over the engine compartment usually causing an engine fire. He was insistent about putting the filter that had metal fittings and a glass cover over the filter element. The bonus was that you only had to buy the filter insert instead of a whole filter.

  • @MRtucnakCZE
    @MRtucnakCZE 8 лет назад +13

    You should definitely review Trabant 601

    • @MrKatajisto
      @MrKatajisto 5 лет назад +3

      But you cannot do that, because you would become murdered as a new-communist in the, that dull, USA...

  • @OtisENGINEuity
    @OtisENGINEuity 8 лет назад +1

    one of the guys in my autobody class in college (a Yuba City High School teacher) had a 54 Renault he was working on, I liked how they looked. Amazing for me being 6'7 at the time and all torso I could actually fit in it, surprisingly tall roof. I wanted to put a V6 or something in it instead of it's flathead 4.
    Over 40mpg, that thing is way cooler (and probably faster) than any Prius will ever be.. almost sounds like a Moto Guzzi.

  • @BrokerArnie
    @BrokerArnie 8 лет назад +6

    This car is hilarious, I love it! Jay, can you do a video one day, on like a 1970s or 1960s Toyota Land Cruiser, or like a Willis, or maybe a Russian car? Wonder how you like those things

  • @mpetersen6
    @mpetersen6 4 года назад +1

    I had a Renault 18i for almost 10 years. The engine was interesting. Pushrod OHV, Hemi head with the camshaft mounted very high in the block. Liked to rev pretty well. Had the same engine in a Fuego (now there's one for Jay to have on). But it got totaled with 3200 miles. Very comfortable car

  • @bennyhannover9361
    @bennyhannover9361 6 лет назад +3

    Deutsch Bonnet was not only a coach builder but a construction specialist duo, Charles Deutsch and René Bonnet designed aerodinamically optimized sportscoupes based on panhard. They split up in '61/ '62 and C Deutsch designed for Panhard the CD Highspeed coupe which won its class in Le Mans '62 and '63 doing 190 km/h with this little engine!
    R Bonnet instead designed the french Miura the Bonnet Djet a little rear mid engined sports car with engine from the Simca 1000 and Renault 8 Major both tuned up to 1100 cc between 57 and 67hp in 1966 Bonnet sold his car and patents to MATRA. They produced the 530LX mid engine car with Ford V4 Engine between '67 and '73.see here: ruclips.net/video/I3X6DKTC3ec/видео.html
    or there: ruclips.net/video/tO8R-CojdPQ/видео.html
    and finally this: ruclips.net/video/M7WM3l58Qyw/видео.html

  • @Joshualbm
    @Joshualbm 7 лет назад +1

    So true: "No matter how obscure the car you're looking for is, there's a club for it."

  • @timhiltonsuperstar
    @timhiltonsuperstar 8 лет назад +32

    Vive la France!

  • @DefenistrationAlley
    @DefenistrationAlley 6 лет назад +1

    at 4:20, am I looking at actual torsion-bar valvesprings on this cylinder head? I guess I don't see why that wouldn't work, I just never thought anyone had even tried that approach.

  • @BartBe
    @BartBe 8 лет назад +24

    hey Jay... why not show us a Citroën 2cv. They are a riot!

    • @Stevieboy130664
      @Stevieboy130664 8 лет назад +3

      An early one where the suspension was truly weird.

    • @smokeyjoe7251
      @smokeyjoe7251 8 лет назад +3

      Suspension didn't really change that much.

    • @julosx
      @julosx 8 лет назад +5

      Well, suspension on the 2CV never changed at all.

    • @smokeyjoe7251
      @smokeyjoe7251 8 лет назад +1

      julosx Apart from the shock absorbers, nope, didn't change significantly.
      The older Type AZ had oil filled dampeners behind each wheel, which were effective however they did increase unsprung weight so they ended up using more modern conventional shocks that were mounted horizontally, parallel to the suspension linkage.
      Perhaps Stevie wants to see them old timey shocks?

    • @Stevieboy130664
      @Stevieboy130664 8 лет назад

      They were called ballons - they were bolted solidly to the swing arms but not anywhere else. Later cars had more conventional dampers.

  • @michelbeauloye4269
    @michelbeauloye4269 4 года назад +1

    When I was a kid in the 1960s, they were so popular in Western Europe (France, Belgium, the Netherlands) and you could hear them coming, The sound of their engine is different from the 2CV although of a similar construction: 2 cylinders, air cooled. Today being 25 Dec 2020, I wish you all a Merry Christmas despite the nasty virus.

  • @jlletaw1954
    @jlletaw1954 8 лет назад +17

    2 cylinder front wheel drive, what gets me...reminds of a Nash

  • @jimmylh
    @jimmylh 8 лет назад +1

    I really enjoy these videos. I've read that Jay's garage isn't open to the public, but how cool would be to get a tour. He seems like such a nice down to earth guy.

  • @TheGreatMunky
    @TheGreatMunky 8 лет назад +12

    That's a beautiful car. Thanks for sharing with us. :-)

  • @mrcards58
    @mrcards58 8 лет назад

    Awesome video.... it's things like this that keep me coming back every single week to watch Jay Leno's garage.... I worked as a mechanic for years in a dealership that sold BMW ..Citroën.. Peugeot ..Saab. We also serviced many an oddball European car... including DKW. The 60s into the 80s were a glorious time for European cars.How about a show on the English car TVR??? One of my absolute favorites. Thank you Mr. Leno for all that you do for the automotive world and to keep history alive!

    • @emjayay
      @emjayay 5 лет назад

      Well, that was about the most interesting and no doubt challenging car mechanic job ever.

  • @volkscom
    @volkscom 8 лет назад +9

    This is a cool car, very i interesting, thank you for sharing this with us all.

  • @censport
    @censport 8 лет назад +1

    We have both a PL17 and a Deutsch-Bonnet HBR5 at work (Lane Motor Museum). The director had me get the PL17 running after it sat for several years. While driving it, I was afraid to touch any of the Bakelite dash switches, for fear they would crumble into dust.

  • @philp.3978
    @philp.3978 8 лет назад +6

    Great video of a cool little car Jay. keep going out side the box.

  • @MICKEY4356
    @MICKEY4356 8 лет назад +2

    Motor sounds good, gas saver and it's totally different.