I totally agree. Steph always gives an excellent description of the history behind the cars as well as a good commentary drive. I thoroughly enjoy her reviews.
Neat car and chockfull of charm...right up my alley. But I have to be honest what with all the rattles, ricketiness and wear and tear it had the word “deathtrap” popped into my mind once or twice.
I love Citroen, but one thing that really gets my dander up is the way they let Panhard wither on the vine. Try and get a test drive of a 24 CT Steph. In my mind it’s the only car which gives the CX a run for its money in the beauty stakes.
Citroen didn't actually kill off Panhard- only with autos- they Panhard remained as a manufacture of armored military cars until a few years ago I think? Panhard is very well known with AMVs. The 24 is beautiful but has the same technology as the car she's in, it was a bit of a buzz-box and out of step with everything else by the late 60s!
I remember these being thrashed across France in period. The Autocar tested one in 1951 and gave it a rave review. Of the gearchange they said "changes can be made with great facility by double declutching as soon as the driver has the knack which is easily acquired." They also tested a Morris Minor (918cc) which was absolutely blown away. The Panhard was 10mph ahead on top speed and took 16 seconds (not 1.6!) less on 0-50.
This year your reviews have just been getting better and better, and the variety is like no other channel. Here's to the next 20K, you definitely deserve it.
Great review and test drive of a fabulous car, Steph. Very interesting. Panhard always did things their own way. May be odd, but the work. Panhard created the transverse axle locater bar, the Panhard Rod, that should have been standard on all cars with a solid axle.
Another great vid Steph! Really enjoy and look forward to my weekly fix of randomness 🤣 We should be thanking you! Here's to the next 20,000 people lucky enough to find your channel 👌
You are doing a superb job and are a real change from 30something beardy men roaring about in a McLaren from their collection of 10 sat in a garage. You are well researched, positive and give an interesting view on cars which old men like me knew when they were new and now remember with nostalgia and yet delight that we don’t have them any more...too many were horrible!! So well done...keep going..keep testing! Richard.😃😃😃😃😃
The pleasure is purely ours. Your enthusiasm, normative approach, zest, and descriptive talks on these shows are so interesting and excellent. I'm looking forward to seeing more. Thank you so much.
Thanks for another great video, Steph. You really do a great job presenting these old cars to us. Also, you remind me of my granddaughter Ashlyn, although she does not have a British accent. You are a real sweetheart just like her. Keep up the good work.
What a great car to celebrate 20k subs! I love the condition! These cars, that show their age, are much more appealing to me than any concours-resto look!
This is wonderful! I love the Dyna! A Dyna 24CT is my mascot here lol... you said you couldnt find much online about it but I feel like I learned a ton from what you put in the video- including everything regarding Gregoire and the trial (that's sadly a mark against PAnhard there). Also your explanation of why the grille looks like that- now it makes sense you can actually see the 'fan' motif and the two sides of it representing the horizontally opposed cylinders lol. The only thing I could add was that they built this car because French gov't subsidized automakers to produce all-aluminum (to save on steel, in short supply cuz the war) cars 'for the people'- called "Plan Pons". Hence the 2CV, Renault 4CV, the Dyna..
You have a terrific channel. Always something different. I can't believe you are driving a Panhard Dyna, I have always wondered what they were like. Thank you for showing us this amazing car. Cheers 👍🎈🎉
Steph this is one of my favorite reviews from you. Right up there with the Simca Aronde review you did! Congratulations on reaching 20k! Here’s to many more!
you and other channels have kept us going thru the lockdown steph, who knows where we would be mentally without you guys and gals. you all keep us sane lol
Magnifique - merci, Steph! Your video captures perfectly the endearing weirdness of Panhards. It would be great if you could do a review some time of one of the later designs - the Dyna Z, the PL17 or the beautiful 24ct or 24bt. George
The styling details on the front of the car are the best! Lovely Art Deco influences on the indicators. And the grill! It’s fantastic. The 5 little scoops on the sides of the bonnet look like a 1950s American influence. Another super video from Steph!!’
Very interesting and informative feature on Panhard Dyna Stephanie. It reminds me of a Renault 2 I'm 65 now and lived in France for almost a year and I've never seen one till now. I like the string hammocks above the front window. Wishing Guy a fantastic trip for next Year
you've really outdone yourself, what a lovely car and what a lovely video. this must be the pinnacle of French quirkiness! I feel a bit sorry for the next car, it can only look a bit mundane next to this one. my absolute favorite car channel on RUclips!
nice video I am restoring the last of 6 right hand drive X85s imported into New Zealand in 1951. Lovely little cars. Your is a bit odd. It has the heater inlet on the engine side but no demister outlets in the dashboard. I suspect the dash board is an earlier model and the round clock and temprature guage are add ons . The RS gearbox on that model did have some synchro, I suspect yours is now u/s?? Have fun on your European jaunt guys. Such a Paris Helsini trip was made early in the models life with great success The car also did well in competition.
I've watched (as a german RR enthusiast) quite a few car videos of the usual suspects from Britain and the US but Steph has always been a class of her own. Carry on, dear! I can't wait for the first Armstrong Siddeley you are testing! The Dyna really is a special car, I also love to see you testing more Panhards!
Steph I love watching your videos! Old French cars are so interesting! I can imagine that net in the headlining full of onions and garlic and shallots and maybe cheeses, and a bottle of wine stuck in the door pocket! J'aime beacoup les voitures Francaises!
as a child here in the U.S. my grandfather had a Panhard PL 17 he drove to work everyday, his other car was a 55 Oldsmobile Rocket 88, Gram refused to ride in the Panhard but we kids loved it!
Such a eccentric and lovely car. In Citroens, 'D' is for Demarrage (translated in English: 'Start-up'). I have a '74 Dyane as a daily driver (if you'd like a go), it's truly the last Panhard. Designed in the mid-late 60's by the same team of talented designers from Panhard, after Citroen bought the struggling company in January 1965.
Love how you are reviewing such rare cars. This one must 'take the cake' for sure! Would love to see a future review of the full-size Citroen DS (a car I so wanted as a teen but dad said 'no'). So appreciate your channel and yes that was "bonkers!"
Amo este auto !! aprendi a conducir en uno igual en Uruguay Sud America, tenia 12 años en ese entonces, a pasado mucho tiempo !! gracias por el video !!
Lovely review. There's a wonderful book by David Beare called 'Panhard, the Flat - Twin Cars 1945-1967 and Their Origins'. It is a really good read. I'm Panhard fan as well and looking for a PL17. Extraordinarily engineered cars.
Hey Steph and Congrats on reaching the 20,000 mark 🎈🥂Damn I only caught the last 2 mins of the live 😂 Another awesome video and car to add to the archive . Never seen one of these before. As always keep up the great work 👍
Well done for choosing the Panhard, and a big thankyou to Guy ( and Chris McPheat) . If my 24CT was running I'd let you drive it but I'm still waiting for an engine to be built, maybe next year ?
I love a survivor. I adore a car that is basic and simple and has signs of having been actually driven and used. It doesn't have to be fast or even all that pretty, but a survivor has character and charm. That horizontally-opposed two cylinder gets the job done, obviously. And double-clutching is rapidly becoming something of a lost art. I'd be proud to have this in my garage.
C’est fantastique stephanie 😀 I’ve to say Guy French is pretty darn good 👍 few years ago they were a Dyna Z ( following gen ) parked next to our car in the car park
Not seen or heard of one of these cars . Lots of character as all old French cars have . Love the video and will keep watching more of your lovely videos . Byeeeee for now 😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃x
Delightful, Steph! Vintage French + Gregoire + Panhard is a guarantee of quirkiness, and this Dyna doesn’t disappoint. What a charming little car. Thanks as always!
WOW Steph, what a gorgeous little car. I love the suicide doors and the total quirkiness of it. I've never seen one, so thanks for showing us this one. Take care X X
@@idriveaclassic maybe but i was talking about design which look amazing and cartoonish in a good way. Sadly Building These kind of cars now only remain in drawing board.
Hi Steph your looking gorgeous as always. Wow what beautiful old car you can definitely tell it's French by the styling. I must admit I have never seen one of these before but I recon it would be lots of fun once you got used to the non synchro gear box. Stay safe and I look forward to your next video.👍
@@idriveaclassic Port isn't very French though. Seriously, I think you would get used to the double de-clutching. It doesn't help that you are stretching in the opposite direction at the same time to find the gear. You could also extend the gear lever a little towards the driver if that was thought necessary to help the situation.
@@3vom918 I once watched a German children's film from the 1970s, featuring a robber living in the woods and two boys trying to catch him. It's based on a book series by Ottfried Preussler and probably set (vaguely) in the 1930s. Anyway, near the end of the film, said robber tries to escape in a 1930s fire engine and manages to change down beautifully with a double de-clutch! He's a pretty good driver for someone living in a cave in the woods I'd say :-D The movie ends with the steering wheel coming off in his hands, causing him to drive straight into the prison gate.
The internet says this model should be 36hp, which is actually not bad for its weight :) Anyway, thanks for the video and hello from a Frenchman who has never seen one of these on the road in his life!
@@idriveaclassic Yes - and in turn, Citroen were taken over by sensible Peugeot. A pity we've lost idiosyncratic cars like the Panhard and the 'real' citroens...
Double-declutching should make the gearbox easy to handle. Definitely a skill worth acquiring, especially for Fiat 500s and and pre-1930s stuff. I used to drive Bristol Lodekka buses and was terrified of the gearboxes at first, but once I for the hang of it they became my favourite bus to drive. Clutch-less changes were also possible without any drama, which felt lovely and saved the left leg some serious work. Not sure I'd try that on this old Panhard, though!
@@idriveaclassic Oh my, that sounds like a very tricky gearbox indeed! Could be an interesting drive for the team going from Paris, by the sounds of it. Thanks for bringing this road test to us.
What a superb car and very cute video. I've had a weak spot for Panhard ever since I laid eyes on a 24CT as a kid on holiday in France. I now own a 55 Dyna Z1 which yet has to be completed. One of the very last full alloy bodied cars. However, all of this is not the reason for this reply. I also own a 1949 Citroën 11B. This Citroën has been built by the Citroën works of Forest near Brussels Belgium, instead of the Paris factory (or the one in Slough GB for you British watchers). Now I know the Forest factory assembled Panhard as well, although I have no idea which models or in what years. I do not think Citroën already owned part of the Panhard shares when this here particular Dyna X was produced, but looking at the interior cloth, I'm very much thinking it might be a Forest built car. For one single reason and, hence the detour to my Citroën, the cloth and style of finishing are exactly the same as on my car. These Forest interiors vary from the Paris built Citroëns in various ways, including the cloth. Therefor I'm very curious if by any chance the car in this video might be a Forest assembled car just as well? Anyone here who knows?
Driving crash box vehicles is very difficult to someone used to driving moderns, but once you lear how it's fun, I have driven lots of vintage buses and a few old wagons. It's not magic or a black art, just matching the engine speed to road speed for the gear you want to select. That little car was amazingly advanced in both style and performance for it's time.
Congratulations on your subscriber milestone, Steph. It is well deserved and you do such a great job with each car you take for a run. I truly appreciate hearing your commentary, as you have a point of difference to other channels I watch in that your eye for detail and the little quirks that give the car character are the things you notice.....and they would be the first things that people who love classics would fall in love with. The little Panhard is a car I have never even heard of let alone seen and she reminds me a lot of a 2CV to look at.....but with a more comfy interior and without so much body roll in the corners - a truly unique vehicle. Don't worry about the challenges with the no-synchro box. As you say, you got used to the Minor (no mean feat in itself), so an hour or two driving the little Panhard and you'd be a whiz at it, I reckon. My first car was an Austin A30, so (like the Minor) going slow through the gears was a way of life with the car. I have also driven a 1948 Ford Bonus truck with a crashbox and the trick with those is like the Panhard. It's more that you get the revs right when selecting your next gear than going slow through your changes. Think about when you snick the next gear on the Minor - the revs haven't dropped right away to idle before you change up and giving the throttle a blip as you change down helps line the gears up too. That's how to minimise the crunch....and I am sure you'd work that out fairly quickly when there isn't a camera recording your every move! Again, awesome news about your subscriber number milestone. It proves that you've established yourself as a great watch with great content - and that you do it all with your own personal style just adds to the uniqueness that makes the channel what it is. Don't change a thing, mate. You've got it spot on! All the very best from your #1 Kiwi fan 😉👍
What a neat little car! I think it would take me a while to get the hang of those gears too and I’ve been driving 23yrs lol. Congratulations on your 20k subscribers. I remember subscribing when you had around 700. Keep going Steph, we all look forward to your videos. 👍 Take care, stay safe.
I always look forward to your videos. I always remember the one where you drove that little French 3 wheeler in my hometown of Portsmouth! Keep ‘em coming! Here’s to the next 20k subscribers 😊
@@idriveaclassic you Vs Granny on her mobility scooter was the best, although unintentional moment! Would love a Renault 17 on the channel. My mum had one when I was a kid. They were rare then, in the 80’s. Look one up! Anyhoo, until the next vid! 😀
Another great video Steph! Always look forward to a Sunday morning, cup of tea and video of something completely mad! Especially the french stuff! Good for you, keep it up!
Ray Hunt Love your reviews, I've driven a lot of crash ( non sycro) gear box vehicles and was taught to double de clutch while pausing between changes, it is strangely satisfying when you start to get perfect crunch free changes.
I always look forward to your vids. Your reviews are always interesting and well researched with an eclectic range of cars covered. Well done on the 20k subs
Another great presentation. As always. By the way, your French pronunciation was perfect! I've lived here for nearly 20 years, and there are still so many classic cars around. Often owned by elderly folk who've had them since new, and hardly used. A car spotter's dream! French cars are something else! In a great way, of course. I hope you'll 'do' a Renault Dauphine, one day... I love the overhead netting for maps etc, in this Panard. So French! More French cars, please!
Excellent stuff thank you...brilliant...its appearance reminds me of a Chrysler PT..the gearchanges are not dissimilar although the Panhard appears to handle a lot better 🤔
What's a lovely car! The engine's sound I find it similar to the 2cv. In fact its architecture is similar too (boxer 2 cyl aircooled with a front big fan).
but it was much more powerful and sohpisticated, with speeds around 110, 120 or 130km/h, depending on the engine. Reputation of winning more than 1000 races is not a legend
Hi Steph, from Stephen in Hong Kong Thanks for another Great review 👍. Think You were quite brave to drive this unique French car. Keep up the Great work Love the diversity of cars on your channel and appreciate your enthusiasm and commitment to give us so many Great episodes 😃👍.
Tuning in from the USA (New England), I've long been a fan!! My first date, @18 yrs, was in her father's 1960 Hillman, would you believe. He collected British cars!
Ah, the quirky French automobile. Consider, all this happened in the United States. My neighbor had a Renault Dauphine (actually 3. One to drive, two for parts) and a good friend, a R8. Never knew whether they were coming or going, unlike this Panhard. Then again, I had a roommate with several Borgward Isabellas. 1960's Japanese cars are very quirky. My friend's Subaru 360 only had 25 hp, but was very light. I think you would find Japanese vehicles of that era interesting. And thank you for bringing us the rare and unusual.
For some reason, I thought you had recently reviewed the Triumph Stag. Maybe a dream? Something for the future? Anyway, I remember this car because the rental lot I worked at then had one. Not so popular in the U.S., because people here didn't see Triumph as a luxury mfg,. and our TR-6 was just as quick. I remember the V8 being the basis for the TR-7 and Saab four. Offered to Rover, but they already had the 3.5L V8 from Buick. Just a little 3am trivia.
Great video Steph. I love old French stuff. If you can make it to Ireland your welcome to review my government spec Citroen DS. It's semi-auto so double declutching isn't an issue 😁
Another great video! Amazing car, I was thinking you would present the newer model, so I was pleasantly surprised. Thank you and în the words of the author "Long may it continue!"
Bonkeurs! I reckon you could get used to the gearchange given more time, it's suprising just what can become normal with enough familiarity. If you had a couple of weeks with it there'd probably be no problem. They were a well respected rally car when they were current. I suspect this wasn't because of the terrifying power the car produces but because of the suprisingly good handling, much in the same way the two-stroke Saabs were also rally legends back in the day. Your vids are always an absolute pleasure to watch!
I've been saving this video up to watch when I had chance... and I have to say it didn't disappoint Steph. Those bonnet scallops, is that the word, are gorgeous. I loved the potted history. I'm guessing the gearbox needs the dreaded double declutching which I haven't done for eons. I have a request if that's okay? If you ever get a chance would you do a video on the Peugeot 402 Eclipse. I know they're pretty rare but if anyone can come across one it's you. Thanks.
Delightful little car typicaly French. Any gearbox without syncro would require the driver to double de clutch whilst changing gear. The princible is to depress the clutch and move from one gear and pause lifting the clutch whilst in the nuteral position then depressing the cluthch a second time to complete the process. Great video by the way Steph.
Hey Jim! I drove a knackered 948 box for years so fully specced up on how to drive with a need for double declutching and trust me, this needed far more than the straightforward D/DC I’m used to.
Lovely underrated lady reviewer who deserves more subscribers , and an incredible iconic vehicle 🚗👍 Tam.
Thank you so much Tam x
Best reviewer there is in my opinion
I totally agree. Steph always gives an excellent description of the history behind the cars as well as a good commentary drive. I thoroughly enjoy her reviews.
Neat car and chockfull of charm...right up my alley. But I have to be honest what with all the rattles, ricketiness and wear and tear it had the word “deathtrap” popped into my mind once or twice.
That is just the best face on a car I have seen for ages.
I know right?!
I am so pleased for you that you could get hold on a Dyna for your channel. For me as a French car lover it gets better every week ☺️
When it comes to cars , the french are in a parallel universe . And that's a good thing .
I do totally agree!!! This universe is a wonderland...
I love french styling
I’ve originally heard this said of their military equipment but it seems to apply here, too: the French copy nobody and nobody copies the French.
Gallic uniqueness
I love Citroen, but one thing that really gets my dander up is the way they let Panhard wither on the vine. Try and get a test drive of a 24 CT Steph. In my mind it’s the only car which gives the CX a run for its money in the beauty stakes.
Yes, I love Citroën too (especially the CX), but I don't like the way they treated Panhard.
Well spoken!
Citroen didn't actually kill off Panhard- only with autos- they Panhard remained as a manufacture of armored military cars until a few years ago I think? Panhard is very well known with AMVs. The 24 is beautiful but has the same technology as the car she's in, it was a bit of a buzz-box and out of step with everything else by the late 60s!
I remember these being thrashed across France in period. The Autocar tested one in 1951 and gave it a rave review. Of the gearchange they said "changes can be made with great facility by double declutching as soon as the driver has the knack which is easily acquired." They also tested a Morris Minor (918cc) which was absolutely blown away. The Panhard was 10mph ahead on top speed and took 16 seconds (not 1.6!) less on 0-50.
😆LOL! I googled the car model yesterday and that exact car came up. I guess it's a very rare breed!
Fascinating stuff. I'm glad to hear the development of this channel has been good for you.
Thank you for watching Mark ☺️
This year your reviews have just been getting better and better, and the variety is like no other channel. Here's to the next 20K, you definitely deserve it.
Aww thanks so much!
Great review and test drive of a fabulous car, Steph. Very interesting. Panhard always did things their own way. May be odd, but the work. Panhard created the transverse axle locater bar, the Panhard Rod, that should have been standard on all cars with a solid axle.
Another great vid Steph! Really enjoy and look forward to my weekly fix of randomness 🤣 We should be thanking you! Here's to the next 20,000 people lucky enough to find your channel 👌
Aww thanks Darran x
You are doing a superb job and are a real change from 30something beardy men roaring about in a McLaren from their collection of 10 sat in a garage. You are well researched, positive and give an interesting view on cars which old men like me knew when they were new and now remember with nostalgia and yet delight that we don’t have them any more...too many were horrible!! So well done...keep going..keep testing! Richard.😃😃😃😃😃
Thanks for watching Richard!
The pleasure is purely ours.
Your enthusiasm, normative approach, zest, and descriptive talks on these shows are so interesting and excellent.
I'm looking forward to seeing more.
Thank you so much.
This is one of your most delightful videos. I love your channel.
Thanks so much Robert ☺️
Thanks for another great video, Steph. You really do a great job presenting these old cars to us. Also, you remind me of my granddaughter Ashlyn, although she does not have a British accent. You are a real sweetheart just like her. Keep up the good work.
What a great car to celebrate 20k subs! I love the condition! These cars, that show their age, are much more appealing to me than any concours-resto look!
I totally agree!
This is wonderful! I love the Dyna! A Dyna 24CT is my mascot here lol... you said you couldnt find much online about it but I feel like I learned a ton from what you put in the video- including everything regarding Gregoire and the trial (that's sadly a mark against PAnhard there). Also your explanation of why the grille looks like that- now it makes sense you can actually see the 'fan' motif and the two sides of it representing the horizontally opposed cylinders lol. The only thing I could add was that they built this car because French gov't subsidized automakers to produce all-aluminum (to save on steel, in short supply cuz the war) cars 'for the people'- called "Plan Pons". Hence the 2CV, Renault 4CV, the Dyna..
You have a terrific channel. Always something different. I can't believe you are driving a Panhard Dyna, I have always wondered what they were like. Thank you for showing us this amazing car. Cheers 👍🎈🎉
Pauline you’re so lovely ❤️
@@idriveaclassic 😊
Absolutely the Most French car ever!
Steph this is one of my favorite reviews from you. Right up there with the Simca Aronde review you did! Congratulations on reaching 20k! Here’s to many more!
I forgot about the Simca! Loved that car
you and other channels have kept us going thru the lockdown steph, who knows where we would be mentally without you guys and gals. you all keep us sane lol
100% this! I often have on one of Steph's videos while working!
Magnifique - merci, Steph! Your video captures perfectly the endearing weirdness of Panhards. It would be great if you could do a review some time of one of the later designs - the Dyna Z, the PL17 or the beautiful 24ct or 24bt. George
The styling details on the front of the car are the best! Lovely Art Deco influences on the indicators. And the grill! It’s fantastic. The 5 little scoops on the sides of the bonnet look like a 1950s American influence. Another super video from Steph!!’
Thanks so much. It was such a lovely car to borrow.
Very interesting and informative feature on Panhard Dyna Stephanie. It reminds me of a Renault 2
I'm 65 now and lived in France for almost a year and I've never seen one till now. I like the string hammocks above the front window.
Wishing Guy a fantastic trip for next Year
you've really outdone yourself, what a lovely car and what a lovely video. this must be the pinnacle of French quirkiness! I feel a bit sorry for the next car, it can only look a bit mundane next to this one. my absolute favorite car channel on RUclips!
Haha the next car is pretty special too!
nice video I am restoring the last of 6 right hand drive X85s imported into New Zealand in 1951. Lovely little cars. Your is a bit odd. It has the heater inlet on the engine side but no demister outlets in the dashboard. I suspect the dash board is an earlier model and the round clock and temprature guage are add ons . The RS gearbox on that model did have some synchro, I suspect yours is now u/s??
Have fun on your European jaunt guys. Such a Paris Helsini trip was made early in the models life with great success The car also did well in competition.
I've watched (as a german RR enthusiast) quite a few car videos of the usual suspects from Britain and the US but Steph has always been a class of her own. Carry on, dear! I can't wait for the first Armstrong Siddeley you are testing!
The Dyna really is a special car, I also love to see you testing more Panhards!
Steph I love watching your videos! Old French cars are so interesting! I can imagine that net in the headlining full of onions and garlic and shallots and maybe cheeses, and a bottle of wine stuck in the door pocket! J'aime beacoup les voitures Francaises!
as a child here in the U.S. my grandfather had a Panhard PL 17 he drove to work everyday, his other car was a 55 Oldsmobile Rocket 88, Gram refused to ride in the Panhard but we kids loved it!
Such a eccentric and lovely car. In Citroens, 'D' is for Demarrage (translated in English: 'Start-up'). I have a '74 Dyane as a daily driver (if you'd like a go), it's truly the last Panhard. Designed in the mid-late 60's by the same team of talented designers from Panhard, after Citroen bought the struggling company in January 1965.
Of course I would. Please get in touch.
Now that would be a good video
Love how you are reviewing such rare cars. This one must 'take the cake' for sure! Would love to see a future review of the full-size Citroen DS (a car I so wanted as a teen but dad said 'no'). So appreciate your channel and yes that was "bonkers!"
We’ve got a DS booked, don’t panic!
idriveaclassic Hooray!!!! Just love your channel! Always wondering what's up next!
You are amazing Steph. Both for the videos and your style. Thanks for brightening my day.
Oh Glyn ❤️
Amo este auto !! aprendi a conducir en uno igual en Uruguay Sud America, tenia 12 años en ese entonces, a pasado mucho tiempo !! gracias por el video !!
Double clutching is a learned art. Depress the clutch, pull out of gear, let out the clutch, depress the clutch, engage the next gear.
I know :)
As discussed in comments thread below, this still wasn’t engaging with the double declutch I use when driving my morris minor.
Lovely review. There's a wonderful book by David Beare called 'Panhard, the Flat - Twin Cars 1945-1967 and Their Origins'. It is a really good read. I'm Panhard fan as well and looking for a PL17. Extraordinarily engineered cars.
Hey Steph and Congrats on reaching the 20,000 mark 🎈🥂Damn I only caught the last 2 mins of the live 😂 Another awesome video and car to add to the archive . Never seen one of these before. As always keep up the great work 👍
Thanks for watching! It’s a properly special car ❤️
Great video Steph ! I love french classics ! The mash of innovation and idiosyncrasies that you get with old french cars makes you smile 😊
Well done for choosing the Panhard, and a big thankyou to Guy ( and Chris McPheat) . If my 24CT was running I'd let you drive it but I'm still waiting for an engine to be built, maybe next year ?
Deffo x
Can't wait for your vids to come out. Believe me we enjoy watching them as much as you enjoy making them. Stay well.
Tony from Australia
Thanks for watching Tony!
I love a survivor. I adore a car that is basic and simple and has signs of having been actually driven and used. It doesn't have to be fast or even all that pretty, but a survivor has character and charm. That horizontally-opposed two cylinder gets the job done, obviously. And double-clutching is rapidly becoming something of a lost art.
I'd be proud to have this in my garage.
Thank you for your great videos. Always entertaining.
Thanks for watching the video 😊😊
Thanks! 1930's US Packard meets early Citron 2CV and they have a kid. Weird and wonderful!
Aw your message at the end was very wholesome!
Thanks ❤️
Well done Steph great review
C’est fantastique stephanie 😀 I’ve to say Guy French is pretty darn good 👍 few years ago they were a Dyna Z ( following gen ) parked next to our car in the car park
Not seen or heard of one of these cars . Lots of character as all old French cars have . Love the video and will keep watching more of your lovely videos . Byeeeee for now 😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃x
Steph, you're brilliant! I love your channel and so glad you are making videos on these fab cars.
Such a rare car! My Mum had a Renault 6 when I was little, and its gearbox and handbrake were similarly challenging.
Delightful, Steph! Vintage French + Gregoire + Panhard is a guarantee of quirkiness, and this Dyna doesn’t disappoint. What a charming little car. Thanks as always!
My pleasure!
Love your channel Steph. Always looking forward to the next video.
Thanks Kenny x
WOW Steph, what a gorgeous little car. I love the suicide doors and the total quirkiness of it. I've never seen one, so thanks for showing us this one. Take care X X
Thanks for watching Michael x
Such a lovely and cute looking car. Build from heart more than head.
Ahh but the story behind the Prototype would tell you that’s not true ()
@@idriveaclassic maybe but i was talking about design which look amazing and cartoonish in a good way. Sadly Building These kind of cars now only remain in drawing board.
Hello from Malaysia... enjoy watching your channel with all the quirky and wonderful classics!:)
Thank you!
I'm not sure I've ever seen one of these before, I'm looking forward to learning about it!
What a beautiful car! Full of character. Another brilliant review
Will I’ll be dipped. Another classic car I have fallen in love 🥰 with. ❤️
Hi Steph your looking gorgeous as always. Wow what beautiful old car you can definitely tell it's French by the styling. I must admit I have never seen one of these before but I recon it would be lots of fun once you got used to the non synchro gear box. Stay safe and I look forward to your next video.👍
Deffo. I think it was something I needed a day or two in really.
Love your relationchip with these old cars !
this one was a true gem .
(Btw your hairdoos are really cool too)
Great review as always. I think you did magnificently considering the exceptional, and typically French quirkiness of this delightful vehicle.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks Steph... another great drive! Keep doing what you do, we love it!
For a moment I thought you said "Take a small port before changing gear".
You can do if you like, or a small bite of your baguette.
@@idriveaclassic Port isn't very French though. Seriously, I think you would get used to the double de-clutching. It doesn't help that you are stretching in the opposite direction at the same time to find the gear. You could also extend the gear lever a little towards the driver if that was thought necessary to help the situation.
@@3vom918 I once watched a German children's film from the 1970s, featuring a robber living in the woods and two boys trying to catch him. It's based on a book series by Ottfried Preussler and probably set (vaguely) in the 1930s. Anyway, near the end of the film, said robber tries to escape in a 1930s fire engine and manages to change down beautifully with a double de-clutch! He's a pretty good driver for someone living in a cave in the woods I'd say :-D
The movie ends with the steering wheel coming off in his hands, causing him to drive straight into the prison gate.
The internet says this model should be 36hp, which is actually not bad for its weight :)
Anyway, thanks for the video and hello from a Frenchman who has never seen one of these on the road in his life!
Love it! Panhard were so wacky they were taken over by 'sensible and sober' Citroen haha :-)
And what a shame that was
@@idriveaclassic Yes - and in turn, Citroen were taken over by sensible Peugeot. A pity we've lost idiosyncratic cars like the Panhard and the 'real' citroens...
Not often I hear Citroëns described as "sensible"!
@@Howlingd0g haha - no. But Panhard were even more bonkers. :-)
Double-declutching should make the gearbox easy to handle. Definitely a skill worth acquiring, especially for Fiat 500s and and pre-1930s stuff. I used to drive Bristol Lodekka buses and was terrified of the gearboxes at first, but once I for the hang of it they became my favourite bus to drive. Clutch-less changes were also possible without any drama, which felt lovely and saved the left leg some serious work. Not sure I'd try that on this old Panhard, though!
I can double de clutch having driven a 948 knackered Morris minor box for years. This was far far trickier.
@@idriveaclassic Oh my, that sounds like a very tricky gearbox indeed! Could be an interesting drive for the team going from Paris, by the sounds of it. Thanks for bringing this road test to us.
What a superb car and very cute video. I've had a weak spot for Panhard ever since I laid eyes on a 24CT as a kid on holiday in France. I now own a 55 Dyna Z1 which yet has to be completed. One of the very last full alloy bodied cars. However, all of this is not the reason for this reply. I also own a 1949 Citroën 11B. This Citroën has been built by the Citroën works of Forest near Brussels Belgium, instead of the Paris factory (or the one in Slough GB for you British watchers). Now I know the Forest factory assembled Panhard as well, although I have no idea which models or in what years. I do not think Citroën already owned part of the Panhard shares when this here particular Dyna X was produced, but looking at the interior cloth, I'm very much thinking it might be a Forest built car. For one single reason and, hence the detour to my Citroën, the cloth and style of finishing are exactly the same as on my car. These Forest interiors vary from the Paris built Citroëns in various ways, including the cloth. Therefor I'm very curious if by any chance the car in this video might be a Forest assembled car just as well? Anyone here who knows?
Driving crash box vehicles is very difficult to someone used to driving moderns, but once you lear how it's fun, I have driven lots of vintage buses and a few old wagons.
It's not magic or a black art, just matching the engine speed to road speed for the gear you want to select.
That little car was amazingly advanced in both style and performance for it's time.
Congratulations on your subscriber milestone, Steph. It is well deserved and you do such a great job with each car you take for a run. I truly appreciate hearing your commentary, as you have a point of difference to other channels I watch in that your eye for detail and the little quirks that give the car character are the things you notice.....and they would be the first things that people who love classics would fall in love with.
The little Panhard is a car I have never even heard of let alone seen and she reminds me a lot of a 2CV to look at.....but with a more comfy interior and without so much body roll in the corners - a truly unique vehicle. Don't worry about the challenges with the no-synchro box. As you say, you got used to the Minor (no mean feat in itself), so an hour or two driving the little Panhard and you'd be a whiz at it, I reckon.
My first car was an Austin A30, so (like the Minor) going slow through the gears was a way of life with the car. I have also driven a 1948 Ford Bonus truck with a crashbox and the trick with those is like the Panhard. It's more that you get the revs right when selecting your next gear than going slow through your changes. Think about when you snick the next gear on the Minor - the revs haven't dropped right away to idle before you change up and giving the throttle a blip as you change down helps line the gears up too. That's how to minimise the crunch....and I am sure you'd work that out fairly quickly when there isn't a camera recording your every move!
Again, awesome news about your subscriber number milestone. It proves that you've established yourself as a great watch with great content - and that you do it all with your own personal style just adds to the uniqueness that makes the channel what it is. Don't change a thing, mate. You've got it spot on!
All the very best from your #1 Kiwi fan 😉👍
What a neat little car! I think it would take me a while to get the hang of those gears too and I’ve been driving 23yrs lol. Congratulations on your 20k subscribers. I remember subscribing when you had around 700. Keep going Steph, we all look forward to your videos. 👍 Take care, stay safe.
That’s mad! Thank you for sticking with me for so long ❤️
I always look forward to your videos. I always remember the one where you drove that little French 3 wheeler in my hometown of Portsmouth! Keep ‘em coming! Here’s to the next 20k subscribers 😊
Oh yeah!!! Hahahaha. That was an afternoon and a half.
@@idriveaclassic you Vs Granny on her mobility scooter was the best, although unintentional moment! Would love a Renault 17 on the channel. My mum had one when I was a kid. They were rare then, in the 80’s. Look one up! Anyhoo, until the next vid! 😀
Another great video Steph! Always look forward to a Sunday morning, cup of tea and video of something completely mad! Especially the french stuff!
Good for you, keep it up!
Thank you so much
Excellent video and choice Steph 🌺
Ray Hunt
Love your reviews, I've driven a lot of crash ( non sycro) gear box vehicles and was taught to double de clutch while pausing between changes, it is strangely satisfying when you start to get perfect crunch free changes.
Ha, I know every well how to double de clutch and it was still challenging.
I always look forward to your vids. Your reviews are always interesting and well researched with an eclectic range of cars covered. Well done on the 20k subs
Thanks so much Chris x
Another great presentation. As always. By the way, your French pronunciation was perfect! I've lived here for nearly 20 years, and there are still so many classic cars around. Often owned by elderly folk who've had them since new, and hardly used. A car spotter's dream! French cars are something else! In a great way, of course. I hope you'll 'do' a Renault Dauphine, one day...
I love the overhead netting for maps etc, in this Panard. So French! More French cars, please!
Excellent stuff thank you...brilliant...its appearance reminds me of a Chrysler PT..the gearchanges are not dissimilar although the Panhard appears to handle a lot better 🤔
Haha! The PT wishes it was this cool.
C'est magnifique. Merci Steph pour un bonne vidėo.
toutes nos félicitations pour les 20K abonnės, une grande réussite.
Merci d'avoir regardé ma vidéo ❤️❤️❤️
@@idriveaclassic De rein.
Oh wow! This is going to be interesting . Very much looking forward to this one
I admire the unique French styling and engineering.
Me too! It’s so stand out.
Great report and test drive Steph A very rare typical odd French car great little engine
I could watch you all day
Oh you.
What a fascinating review . Well done yet again .
Thanks x
A Louis XV furniture style car. I wish you to review a 24CT, Louis Bionier Panhard's testament (he also designed the Citroën Dyane a few years after).
What's a lovely car! The engine's sound I find it similar to the 2cv. In fact its architecture is similar too (boxer 2 cyl aircooled with a front big fan).
but it was much more powerful and sohpisticated, with speeds around 110, 120 or 130km/h, depending on the engine. Reputation of winning more than 1000 races is not a legend
Hi Steph, from Stephen in Hong Kong Thanks for another Great review 👍. Think You were quite brave to drive this unique French car. Keep up the Great work Love the diversity of cars on your channel and appreciate your enthusiasm and commitment to give us so many Great episodes 😃👍.
Thank you so much for watching!
great video as always, lovely car despite the complex gearbox, thanks for all you do.
What an astonishing car! I hope you'll be doing some revisits, too. It'd be great to see what people do with these.
That is the weirdest thing I have ever seen. Great video Steph. and congrats. on the 20k subs. Ripper. 👍😀
Tuning in from the USA (New England), I've long been a fan!! My first date, @18 yrs, was in her father's 1960 Hillman, would you believe. He collected British cars!
Keep up the fantastic work/fun Steph. Love the passion and knowledge. Always waiting for next the episode. Enjoy your day.
Aw thanks Jay! You too x
I could even understand his French intro . What a great review and film quality.
Yes, Guy was fantastic!
Amazing car ! Thanks for video
OMG i love that car it is stunning great video
Thanks for the videos. Keep up the good work
Ah, the quirky French automobile. Consider, all this happened in the United States. My neighbor had a Renault Dauphine (actually 3. One to drive, two for parts) and a good friend, a R8. Never knew whether they were coming or going, unlike this Panhard. Then again, I had a roommate with several Borgward Isabellas. 1960's Japanese cars are very quirky. My friend's Subaru 360 only had 25 hp, but was very light. I think you would find Japanese vehicles of that era interesting. And thank you for bringing us the rare and unusual.
For some reason, I thought you had recently reviewed the Triumph Stag. Maybe a dream? Something for the future? Anyway, I remember this car because the rental lot I worked at then had one. Not so popular in the U.S., because people here didn't see Triumph as a luxury mfg,. and our TR-6 was just as quick. I remember the V8 being the basis for the TR-7 and Saab four. Offered to Rover, but they already had the 3.5L V8 from Buick. Just a little 3am trivia.
Great video Steph. I love old French stuff. If you can make it to Ireland your welcome to review my government spec Citroen DS. It's semi-auto so double declutching isn't an issue 😁
Oh wow thank you x
Oh, I'd love to see that. Do it, Steph!
Another great video! Amazing car, I was thinking you would present the newer model, so I was pleasantly surprised. Thank you and în the words of the author "Long may it continue!"
Bonkeurs! I reckon you could get used to the gearchange given more time, it's suprising just what can become normal with enough familiarity. If you had a couple of weeks with it there'd probably be no problem.
They were a well respected rally car when they were current. I suspect this wasn't because of the terrifying power the car produces but because of the suprisingly good handling, much in the same way the two-stroke Saabs were also rally legends back in the day.
Your vids are always an absolute pleasure to watch!
Well done Steph. The Panhard is a wonderful car and ever rarer in Australia.
I didn’t know they existed over there!
@@idriveaclassic only as private imports.
I've been saving this video up to watch when I had chance... and I have to say it didn't disappoint Steph. Those bonnet scallops, is that the word, are gorgeous. I loved the potted history. I'm guessing the gearbox needs the dreaded double declutching which I haven't done for eons.
I have a request if that's okay? If you ever get a chance would you do a video on the Peugeot 402 Eclipse. I know they're pretty rare but if anyone can come across one it's you. Thanks.
Aww thanks Sophie xxx
Loved this video ! Intresting car too I'd love to see an update on the Marina :)
Delightful little car typicaly French. Any gearbox without syncro would require the driver to double de clutch whilst changing gear. The princible is to depress the clutch and move from one gear and pause lifting the clutch whilst in the nuteral position then depressing the cluthch a second time to complete the process. Great video by the way Steph.
Hey Jim! I drove a knackered 948 box for years so fully specced up on how to drive with a need for double declutching and trust me, this needed far more than the straightforward D/DC I’m used to.
Well done on hitting another subscriber milestone. What a machine! It looks like it belongs in Grease.
Thanks Alan x