Brilliant, touching homily... magnificent insight into the intimate connection between the Liturgy and the Holy Trinity! Thank you Father -- Manila, Philippines
Sacrosanctum Concilium, the Constitution on the liturgy, is formulated for interpretation to any way one could want. In the very same in 22.2 giving faculty to the Bishops conferences to have the mass said in vernacular. Until Vatican II, nobody was allowed to change anything in the liturgy without explicit Papal permission. Sacrosanctum Concilium also makes a few suggestions, for example it wanted for “unnecessary repetitions” to be cancelled (The Confiteor), it says that the Latin Language is to be the language of the liturgy while at the same time it says that parts of the mass can be in the vernacular and says if the bishops conference decides so, the whole mass can be in vernacular. This is a total contradictory document. Paragraph 36:1 “use of the Latin language is to be preserved in the Latin rites” Paragraph 36:2 “but since the use of the vulgar tongue…may be frequently be of great advantage …regulations on this matter laid down in subsequent chapters.” Paragraph 36:3 refers to article 22:2 Paragraph 37 promotes the use of inculturation in the liturgy. Paragraph 40: “In some places and circumstances, however, an even more radical adaptation of the liturgy is needed…” 40.1 refers to 22:2. This is why we get all these crazy liturgies. Paragraph 54 says that the faithful should be able to use Latin but then refers to Articles 36 and 40 which say to use the vernacular and both of these articles refer to 22:2. Vatican II is cuckoo and not Catholic.
Exactly, from a legal standpoint it's full of loopholes. It gives Latin and Chant "pride of place" but turns that place into just an option, because as Paragraph 40 states, a more radical adaptation is allowed too. This article from the Latin Mass Magazine discusses it: drive.google.com/file/d/0B__IF1-opxVNWjE2eXBEMTFOU0E/view?usp=sharing
Precisely, even when Gregory was Pope, he wanted to add a prayer I believe to the end of another, but the people got word of this and threatened to kill him for it.
The traditional movement will never gain any ground in the Church when it doesn't unify. Pride, Anger, and Despair - sins typical of many traditionalists.
Traditionalists hardly have a monopoly on pride, anger, & despair. As for the traditional movement unifying, this may be impossible. When the shepherd is struck, the sheep will scatter. That's not pessimism, just our Lord's words. The best Traditionalists can do is learn the faith well, and practice humility and charity.
Quality over quantity must and will prevail. There is no such thing as a 'traditional movement'. What there is is the continuation of what the Truth has been, is, and will be since the Truth cannot and will not change.
thinfriedtofu Typical modernist move to redefine words. Instead, pick up a dictionary and learn the proper definition of schismatic. Also, dispense with the ad hominem attacks.
Collin Szatkowski Really? I was fairly certain that it was an American FSSP priest living in Mexico. I hope you are correct, my impression of him was that he was pretty solid. ... In fact, I just did a voice comparison and now I'm not totally certain. You may be correct. Pax Christi!
Brilliant, touching homily... magnificent insight into the intimate connection between the Liturgy and the Holy Trinity! Thank you Father -- Manila, Philippines
God bless you Fr for the beautiful Truth of the Faith
I don't think I've heard this priest before. It was an excellent message.
GOD BLESS this priest!
Sacrosanctum Concilium, the Constitution on the liturgy, is formulated for interpretation to any way one could want. In the very same in 22.2 giving faculty to the Bishops conferences to have the mass said in vernacular. Until Vatican II, nobody was allowed to change anything in the liturgy without explicit Papal permission. Sacrosanctum Concilium also makes a few suggestions, for example it wanted for “unnecessary repetitions” to be cancelled (The Confiteor), it says that the Latin Language is to be the language of the liturgy while at the same time it says that parts of the mass can be in the vernacular and says if the bishops conference decides so, the whole mass can be in vernacular.
This is a total contradictory document.
Paragraph 36:1 “use of the Latin language is to be preserved in the Latin rites”
Paragraph 36:2 “but since the use of the vulgar tongue…may be frequently be of great advantage …regulations on this matter laid down in subsequent chapters.”
Paragraph 36:3 refers to article 22:2
Paragraph 37 promotes the use of inculturation in the liturgy.
Paragraph 40: “In some places and circumstances, however, an even more radical adaptation of the liturgy is needed…” 40.1 refers to 22:2. This is why we get all these crazy liturgies.
Paragraph 54 says that the faithful should be able to use Latin but then refers to Articles 36 and 40 which say to use the vernacular and both of these articles refer to 22:2.
Vatican II is cuckoo and not Catholic.
Exactly, from a legal standpoint it's full of loopholes. It gives Latin and Chant "pride of place" but turns that place into just an option, because as Paragraph 40 states, a more radical adaptation is allowed too.
This article from the Latin Mass Magazine discusses it:
drive.google.com/file/d/0B__IF1-opxVNWjE2eXBEMTFOU0E/view?usp=sharing
kmo_9000 That proves that it is not a work of the Church and the Holy Spirit, but a work of sinful men.
Precisely, even when Gregory was Pope, he wanted to add a prayer I believe to the end of another, but the people got word of this and threatened to kill him for it.
wow what a great homily.
Is there a reason why audio only comes out of the left?
I thought "Amen" meant: I testify that this is the truth. Thats what i tell others at least
21:10 - Ironically, *Eucharist* does mean _thanksgiving !_
lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi
You don’t say amen when you receive communion in the true Roman mass or the Eastern Divine Liturgy. Amen is for the false novus ordo “mass”
AD ORIENTEM, orientum
Ad Orientam
Ad OrientEm
EC ad orientem
The traditional movement will never gain any ground in the Church when it doesn't unify. Pride, Anger, and Despair - sins typical of many traditionalists.
Traditionalists hardly have a monopoly on pride, anger, & despair. As for the traditional movement unifying, this may be impossible. When the shepherd is struck, the sheep will scatter. That's not pessimism, just our Lord's words. The best Traditionalists can do is learn the faith well, and practice humility and charity.
Quality over quantity must and will prevail. There is no such thing as a 'traditional movement'. What there is is the continuation of what the Truth has been, is, and will be since the Truth cannot and will not change.
Pride, Anger and despair?? what are you specifically talking about?
Problematic sermon. A lot of good in the FSSP, but also danger, and in this case, poison.
why don't you stop pretending, and just fully declare yourselves schismatics?
This wasn't an FSSP priest sooo.......
thinfriedtofu Typical modernist move to redefine words. Instead, pick up a dictionary and learn the proper definition of schismatic. Also, dispense with the ad hominem attacks.
Collin Szatkowski Really? I was fairly certain that it was an American FSSP priest living in Mexico. I hope you are correct, my impression of him was that he was pretty solid. ... In fact, I just did a voice comparison and now I'm not totally certain. You may be correct. Pax Christi!
It may be I, that was mistaken, but the link in the description sends you to a diocesan parish website. Just my observation.