If you pulled the ABS fuse. It could invalidate your insurance but this is because the law states you can't disable it in that way by and it is a safety feature now required by law on cars at least. If the function has an on/off then there's not much they can do especially if it's not required by law, If the function was required by law there would not be an on/off switch. Actually in certain circumstances something like the ABS can be deleted but everything related to it must be removed and the vehicle would almost certainly need an IVA inspection then the change declared it to the insurance company. It basically comes under the heading of radically altered vehicles. This is how people are allowed to remove the ABS from rally cars which must be fully road road legal as they are used on the road between stages. I think the question would be: is it a safety feature or a driver aid? ABS is a safety feature required by law. Traction control, in its many forms, is a driver aid and not required by law. Quite frankly if a person can't set off safely without pulling a wheely or skidding they should not have passed your test or be allowed near anything with a motor for that matter. Interestingly in snow ABS is not effective and can increase stopping distances but you still can't disable it legally.
Ha ha. I've got to laugh. My Triumph Speed Triple that I have owned for 22 years doesn't even have a fuel gauge never mind electronic controls! I regularly go for long day rides with pals who have 2024 bikes and they have all these different riding modes. My riding modes are stop and go! ;-)
I dare say they could refuse to pay out, they're a law unto themselves and all different. If it can save them money they'll try it especially if there's anther driver/rider involved or injuries etc etc
Personally I'm more concerned about electronic aids causing accidents and find it concerning motorcycles are going down the same route as cars. For example Start/Stop engaging when you engage the clutch, stalling the engine just as you're about to move forwards. Then there's Automatic lane assist which gets triggered by tar lines, wet patches etc, etc, pulling you left sharply unexpectedly. Collision detection can also be a real nuisance especially those which also apply braking. The flashing alarming warning is a real distraction and when parking nose first with a hedge or fence in front it'll suddenly jerk to a stop before you're fully forwards. I'd be happy though if all of these worked in conjunction when selfish drivers shoot out on roundabouts and at junctions. Expecting those with the right of way to give way is becoming an increasing threat to life and limb.
if you modify anything on the bike you should advise the insurer -if you dont you may void your insurance and you may also be driving an unlicensed vehicle especially if the modification relates to safety features
G’day Jim. I really appreciate your ridgy didge approach mate. As for the possibility of insurance companies taking advantage of these electronic “safety features “, remember insurance companies exist to make as much money from their customers as possible. Any excuse to avoid paying out is of paramount importance to them. Be warned & beware. Take care , Hooroo for now 👍🏍😁
Never tried anything with efi let alone abs. Linked brakes came out and nobody seemed to like them. I'm fine with daylight running lights. Be interested to know what rider aids people like. Hoping to sort an osmo 4 for next summer but just for favourite rides.
I was going to agree that I hadn't either until I remembered riding my niece's 125 once which does have EFI & ABS so I can't but none of my 3 bikes does so for regular riding I don't. Not sure whether or not I miss the ABS, I don't miss the EFI at all. I may well have lights on during the day especially if it's a bit dull but they are not running lights. I do wonder about the obsession with quickshifters though for road use. Clutchless upshifts have been possible for years and saving a precious tenth of a second on a gearchange on the road seems rather pointless. Useful on a track day perhaps but on the road seems like just another gizmo that will break. And can we please have at least one new bike that isn't a 270 degree crank parallel twin. I know they are dirt cheap to make and easier to meet the emission regs with, but come on, show some imagination occasionally. and give the punters some genuine choice. I know bikes don't sell in the numbers that they used to, but for example 50 years ago if I wanted a new 750, I would have the choice of choosing a parallel twin, or a v-twin, or a boxer twin, or a triple, or a two stroke triple, or an in-line four, or even an in-line six. Today more than back in the days of yore, what I want a bike for, dictates the engine I can have even if in theory deciding on a "middleweight" gives me the option of a single or a parallel twin (270 bloody degree crank), a triple or even a four (providing I can persuade my creaking frame onto a supersport of course). Grumble over.
If you pulled the ABS fuse. It could invalidate your insurance but this is because the law states you can't disable it in that way by and it is a safety feature now required by law on cars at least.
If the function has an on/off then there's not much they can do especially if it's not required by law, If the function was required by law there would not be an on/off switch.
Actually in certain circumstances something like the ABS can be deleted but everything related to it must be removed and the vehicle would almost certainly need an IVA inspection then the change declared it to the insurance company. It basically comes under the heading of radically altered vehicles. This is how people are allowed to remove the ABS from rally cars which must be fully road road legal as they are used on the road between stages.
I think the question would be: is it a safety feature or a driver aid? ABS is a safety feature required by law. Traction control, in its many forms, is a driver aid and not required by law.
Quite frankly if a person can't set off safely without pulling a wheely or skidding they should not have passed your test or be allowed near anything with a motor for that matter.
Interestingly in snow ABS is not effective and can increase stopping distances but you still can't disable it legally.
Ha ha. I've got to laugh. My Triumph Speed Triple that I have owned for 22 years doesn't even have a fuel gauge never mind electronic controls! I regularly go for long day rides with pals who have 2024 bikes and they have all these different riding modes. My riding modes are stop and go! ;-)
I dare say they could refuse to pay out, they're a law unto themselves and all different. If it can save them money they'll try it especially if there's anther driver/rider involved or injuries etc etc
Personally I'm more concerned about electronic aids causing accidents and find it concerning motorcycles are going down the same route as cars. For example Start/Stop engaging when you engage the clutch, stalling the engine just as you're about to move forwards. Then there's Automatic lane assist which gets triggered by tar lines, wet patches etc, etc, pulling you left sharply unexpectedly.
Collision detection can also be a real nuisance especially those which also apply braking. The flashing alarming warning is a real distraction and when parking nose first with a hedge or fence in front it'll suddenly jerk to a stop before you're fully forwards. I'd be happy though if all of these worked in conjunction when selfish drivers shoot out on roundabouts and at junctions. Expecting those with the right of way to give way is becoming an increasing threat to life and limb.
if you modify anything on the bike you should advise the insurer -if you dont you may void your insurance and you may also be driving an unlicensed vehicle especially if the modification relates to safety features
G’day Jim. I really appreciate your ridgy didge approach mate. As for the possibility of insurance companies taking advantage of these electronic “safety features “, remember insurance companies exist to make as much money from their customers as possible. Any excuse to avoid paying out is of paramount importance to them. Be warned & beware. Take care , Hooroo for now 👍🏍😁
Never tried anything with efi let alone abs.
Linked brakes came out and nobody seemed to like them.
I'm fine with daylight running lights.
Be interested to know what rider aids people like.
Hoping to sort an osmo 4 for next summer but just for favourite rides.
I was going to agree that I hadn't either until I remembered riding my niece's 125 once which does have EFI & ABS so I can't but none of my 3 bikes does so for regular riding I don't. Not sure whether or not I miss the ABS, I don't miss the EFI at all. I may well have lights on during the day especially if it's a bit dull but they are not running lights. I do wonder about the obsession with quickshifters though for road use. Clutchless upshifts have been possible for years and saving a precious tenth of a second on a gearchange on the road seems rather pointless. Useful on a track day perhaps but on the road seems like just another gizmo that will break. And can we please have at least one new bike that isn't a 270 degree crank parallel twin. I know they are dirt cheap to make and easier to meet the emission regs with, but come on, show some imagination occasionally. and give the punters some genuine choice. I know bikes don't sell in the numbers that they used to, but for example 50 years ago if I wanted a new 750, I would have the choice of choosing a parallel twin, or a v-twin, or a boxer twin, or a triple, or a two stroke triple, or an in-line four, or even an in-line six. Today more than back in the days of yore, what I want a bike for, dictates the engine I can have even if in theory deciding on a "middleweight" gives me the option of a single or a parallel twin (270 bloody degree crank), a triple or even a four (providing I can persuade my creaking frame onto a supersport of course). Grumble over.