It's so easy to do accidentally on those controls. I thought about cutting it out of the video but Dad and I laughed about it. Both of us have done it quite a bit. 🤣
Boys - soak them in oil/fuel mix. I had a shallow pan made. Raised machine up with blade and ripper. Lowered track frame into used oil/fuel oil mix. Rotated after a full day to next section. Takes a few days. But nothing like it for close fit tracks or rusted up ones. Stop monkeying around. Merry Christmas
Yes, a great idea! My father used to maintain windmills in his day. I remembered him boiling up beeswax as he was a beekeeper ( Always Wax lying around and he would dip bolts and nuts into it and let them soak while the wax boiled away. He professed to say what happened was that the wax would work its way into the metal as the metal expanded. Did it work? Yep you betcha, as we had our own windmill with dipped bolts with which he was always playing around to get better mill action and needed the bolts removed and they all came undone as per requirements. He never used any Penetrene Oil ( In the Day was its name) on his waxed bolts. I did go on many of his windmill repair jobs and all bolts that were waxed were never seized. Hey man, I like your humor, I enjoy watching you work at it and never give in. That is what made both our countries great places, the tenacity of its pioneers going forward. I must thank Squatch for introducing me to your channel as like yours, both channels are very entertaining. Thanks for sharing. Very Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year to you all.
I love your story! It definitely reinforces my belief in the wax trick. Also appreciate the kind words. Squatch really did us a favor and helped the channel! Merry Christmas to you and yours as well!
Working on the county road graders, I've used dot 3 brake fluid "warmed" in a micro wave with good success applied to heated bolts and nuts. Do enjoy the agri cowboy episodes!
Congratulations getting the tracks to crack. LAOL strikes home with me after losing our LEO son in the line of duty. Prayers for your continued growth. I've given the advice that I gave my son .. Always Forward. Many blessings.
God bless you and your family on this journey none of us asked for. Prayers to you and your family. I always think of the American Bison. Into the storm! Moving forward. Making their way through the storm. ❤️
50% Automatic gear box fluid, 50% Accetone is the best Penestrating Oil , although there is a product now available in the USA called Kroil that seems to be exceptional as well.
We've used some Kroil. Dad loves it, I'm not convinced. I think your acetone gearbox fluid is probably the best bet. I put a little bit of oil on those pins every time we park it. 😊👍
How about bolting a 2x2 square tube right above the tight pins. This would give you the return pressure on every revolution of the tracks. Use the pad bolts to hold this on.
I graduated from Friends High School in Kotzebue Alaska in 1965. My summer job that year was at the Kennecott Copper mine in Bornite Alaska. They had a a D8 that had worn out track pins. They used a porta power to press them out. They then turned them and reinserted them.
Be careful of adding lubricants to track pins - mixed with sand and mud outside it can become a grinding paste and do more damage than good. Wax may be a good choice because it’s solid so will push out, but don’t be tempted by grease or oil!
A guy I know put a new set of rails on a D-4 and let it set over winter.Went to use it after several months and realized several pins were stuck like yours.Used it several hours farming did'nt help,tried pounding on them which did'nt help and finally took the tracks to the track shop and had them push the pins out and cleaning them up,which cost almost what he paid for the new rails.Put them back on.They worked good but he let it sit a while and when he went to use it had a bunch more that had rusted and stuck. Was hoping you had the answer.Was parked in a shed.
Looks like you are making progress. Two Ideas that I may try on the last three links are: 1. Remove the two adjacent pads and fabricate a lever arm/beam to bolt on each link. Then install a hydraulic cylinder between the two beams so the sticking joint can be moved back and forth as long as needed to free the sticking pin. 2. Remove two adjacent track pads on each each side of the sticky joint. Then fabricate a heavy plate to bolt on in place of the pads to immobilize the two free joints on each side of the sticky pin and run it like that. This would likely force the sticky pin to flex on each rotation of the track.
You know a lot of guys have a nicknames because of one incident that left everyone with a similar conclusion but no matter what your video theme is you’re Dad is always cleaning ! He cannot not be cleaning ! Even the torch tips must be cleaned! Your Mother must love the fact that he is so particular and meticulous he keeps proving himself to be the cleanest every episode and nobody beats him 😀🇨🇦
I’m not at all tired of your track busting videos. I have been fighting the same problem with new tracks on a TD-7G for the last 15 years or so. The best success we’ve had was with using a Jack hammer (breaker hammer) mounted on a Bobcat to force the links with the machine jacked up to rebend the links. This was all done after the links had been oiled and heated red hot then quenched with both water and oils of all sorts. Had all links working like they should. We used the dozer for about 40 hours in fence row cleaning. After that the transmission went out. Dozer sat in the shop for about 2 years waiting for transmission rebuild job. After about three years it’s running again but about 4 to 6 links on each side are humping up again and can barely get them pounded straight with a sledge hammer. Will probably have to call the guy back with his bobcat again for a few hours of repeated pounding back straight. From what I’ve learned over the years. You have to get the problem links limbered enough to where you can pop them straight with one or two blows from a short ball peen hammer from top of tool box before going out on those bumpy joy rides or using for drawbar or dozer work. If the links are sticking with normal use, they will remain stuck and will be hard on both the machine and operator and carrying a grade will be almost impossible. Thanks for the great videos!
Thank you! It's just plain hard work to get them broke loose. Your story did give me a good idea. We have a Bosch chisel Hammer with a large spade bit that might be just the trick. 🤔
@ We used just a round blunt tool and it still was pretty hard on the track shoes. Also, before the worst links could be moved at all, we had to heat a bit greater than red hot, then quench with cold water hose. In this case, the tracks were installed brand new and were never really broken in. It was just used about 20 hours maybe every other year. Also, I think the new tracks links were stiff or stuck from day one and just got more frozen. Probably technically defective from day one.
That water trick only adds more rust. If it was boiling water something might have happened, if not only more rust. Now boiling oil might be a game changer.
Spraying Freeze Lock into a heated space will do the same, not sure about the fumes, though, but it did get in and breakdown the rust and lubricate it.
We used the paraffin wax trick on the exhaust manifold bolts on a 530 John Deere, we didn’t think it would work but it totally did. Barely had to put pressure on the bolts with the wrench.
It's kinda funny, there is a RUclips video of a WW2 IH dozer that was submerged in a swamp for 43 years. They finally got it out and the tracks were as free as can be on the first try
I've seen that tractor in person. It's an amazing story! Sometimes I wonder if our dry climate here has a strange effect on rust. Although our tracks were sitting for decades in a somewhat wet area. These are also newer chains and pins. I wonder if the water kept them from getting oxygen to make rust in the IH?
Good morning Aaron, brilliant work on finally getting them tracks to crack before you wear them out too! I did get a horrible vision when you said about tucking your pants in so the grousers don't grab you as a tube of grease. That would just be horrible especially after slipping into 5th gear. I think those cats are missing some gold tinsel for Christmas 🎄 🎅 Have a lovely Christmas and a Happy New Year to yourself, Greg the cleaner, not forgetting your wife, mum and the rest of your family. Thank you again for your brilliant videos and I'm already looking forward to watching next year's videos. Please take care of everyone 👍👍👍
Thank you Anthony. I'm a 3rd Generation operator and have heard some horrific stories. Figured a little "scared straight" safety reminder wouldn't hurt. Wishing you and yours a a merry Christmas and happy New Year as well! Thank you for the many comments and kind words. 😊👍🎄
@@lifeafterourlossSquatch’s press was sufficient to handle the pins from 5J1113 but as I recall he wasn’t confident in using it on anything bigger. Dave at Farmcraft101 just put out a video of a farmer built pin press for Large Marge, his excavator. Haven’t watched it yet but Large Marge is a very large machine.
The only trouble I’ve had with wax is if it doesn’t work and I go back to penetrating oil, the wax keeps it out of the joint. The cure is of course more heat to burn the wax out. It looks like it did work, fingers crossed!
I always wondered what the LAOL was about. I just watched a couple of previous videos about how you lost your son. I truly can't imagine how I would cope with life if I lost my only son. I don't know if I could go on. I have newfound respect for you sir. I am here because of your friend Squatch. I have met him in person two times now, being that I live in southern MN. He is one hell of a wrench and it appears that you and your dad can hold your own also. Have a Merry Christmas. Trust me, I'll be back.
The track video's are tough to watch, there's a track rebuilding shop about 10 minutes from me. They would have those things pressed apart in like 30 minutes. Merry christmas and hope you get em busted loose my friend!
We have. I estimate it's going to take 80 to 90 tons to actually break them loose. Fortunately I think we've done a good enough job to put them on Lefty. 👍
You guys are persistent enough you will overcome those stuck tracks. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! I’m looking forward to seeing what you and cleaner do with your Cats in the new year. Will the herd grow even more???? Thanks!
We use it sparingly, 😖. Unseasonably warm 55 degrees here. Been that way for the past 3 or 4 weeks. Stay warm and merry Christmas to you and yours as well. 😊👍🎄
I do that on my E-Bikes I soak the chain in Asatone, and boil it in wax, last for ages, and the best bit it does not pick up dirt! so it should be the best way as use oil and its like grinding paste.
Your committed I’ll give ya that :) two thoughts. 1. Have you tried heating the bushings hot before driving it? Maybe try heating one up hot and running it to see if the expansion from the heat helps break it loose. 2. If you only have 3 or 4 stubborn ones left why not just press those ones out? Keep at it you’ll get it, we have to do this with our Sixty chains so I feel your pain. I think we’re to the point of having to press all the pins out. Take care gents and merry Christmas
Hey Ironman! So we tried the track press and it failed. I think D4 pins take a lot of pressure. Especially sticky ones, 😖. I really like the idea of heating them up and driving it around. I think that's something we'll have to try on the last couple of sticky pins. Merry Christmas to you and yours as well! 🎄
@EL300B We were careful not to get them too hot. Just enough to flex them a little bit. I've had folks tell me they got them glowing red hot and still had issues. My opinion on heat is just enough to make it move. 👍
I tried out neat trailer wash on a IH 125 Drott. Soaked the links, you could see the rust coming out. Its also soapy so lubricates. I will be trying on my D4 next year
@@lifeafterourloss I sprayed the links using a weed spray pump so it got in the joints. The wash needs to be strong and applied neat. You could see the rust coming out.
It made us nervous too! I was happy to stay clear out of the line of fire. Fortunately those are very highly rated load chains from when we used to haul equipment. 😁
I haven't tried it yet. Definitely not opposed to giving it a shot. I think we've got it narrowed down to two stuck pins. Appreciate the compliment. 😊👍
Great Christmas festival, I did enjoy the Music. :) I had thought of using the power of Freezing the pins, using liquid nitrogen. But please keep on moving forward. Merry Christmas
That's a good idea! When Lefty is completely done I'm going to review all the tools we made and bought for the project. I will say that the hydraulic pumps are worth what you pay for them. 😊👍
Would you have an entire track chain and grouser pads that is absolutely so wore out that it is completely unusable, scrap only, that you would want to get rid of? I only need one side, but depending on . . . Maybe I'd take 2 tracks??? . . . . Doesn’t matter if they're from a D2, D5, etc . . . Not sure where else to look / who else to ask, so thought I'd post here.
@billhartl6601 They are highly recommended! I don't quite have any chains I can part with at the moment. If you're just using them for a project or a fire pit I would recommend checking with your local John Deere or Caterpillar dealer. Perhaps even an excavating company in your area that runs D4s fives or threes.
@@lifeafterourloss thank you for checking! I've got a call into a somewhat close coal mining company, I figured they might have to replace a few crawler track chains now and then
Enjoying your videos immensely. What bolts and nuts are you using to hold the track pads onto the chain. We are fixing up a early 50's HT4 and it has many loose pads, Thanks Bob
They are aftermarket grade 8 bolts and washers. I got them from a place called Tracks and Teeth. The nuts are from Caterpillar. I was able to find them using the original part numbers. For some reason the nuts were cheaper from Caterpillar but the bolts were cheaper from tracks and teeth. 👍
Looks like some progress finally there at the end with that porta-power. Good stuff! Merry Christmas to you and all your family! I’ve enjoyed watching you guys this last year and look forward to the projects you have planned for the next! Peace! ❤️
We feel quite confident about it. I think the tracks are ready for Lefty. We've got some crazy adventure set for next year. 👍 we very much appreciate your dedication to the channel. ❤️ 😊
Ita alot of extra work, but you could take all the pads off, flip the chains inside out and run it (preferably on jack stands) to stress the pin movement on the other side.
The 48 star flag matches the GMCs nicely. Did you ever do an article on the GMCs? I'm curious as to whether the crane units were factory or fitted after their service life. I've seen some originals with Bay City units.
Very few people have actually noticed the 48 star flag. Both of those were fron service members in my family. They are all post-war conversions by a company called Power Motive here in Denver. I have several videos on them. I think there's even a playlist. We did a will it start on the truck and on the crane. My grandfather was the only one that could really run either one of those machines. 😊👍
@@lifeafterourloss Us foreigners ( Scottish ) tend to notice stuff like that. I owned a CCKW, a smaller 7100 series Chevrolet, and a DUKW. The chassis numbers on those CCKWs also have letter codes, which can tell you if it was built as a truck or supplied as a cab and chassis to a specialist coach builder for whatever reason.
@gordonmcmillan4709 Very interesting! When I was in Europe it was surprising how many jeeps and trucks I saw running around. Most of the ones here got put to very hard and sometimes abusive farm work. A CCKW like the ones I have are getting to be scarce. Where can I find the chassis numbers?
@@lifeafterourloss All the WW2 stuff is quite valued here, though most of it got chewed up by salted roads. Norwegian army was using GMCs, Dodges, and jeeps into the 1990s. Normal chassis number position is side of the left front chassis rail around / above the front spring hanger. They made primarily hard cab CCKWs till 1941 and for the rest of the war they used soft top cabs so the vehicle would knock down to a lower volume for shipment. If they knew that a chassis / cab was going to be used for a back body setup that couldn't be knocked down - like a big crane - they sometimes used hard cabs after 1941, which is why I wondered if those cranes were factory. I have the details and options in a manual ( somewhere )
This adds more credence to the truck body or crane theory. I know for a fact these were post-war converted. If they were built past 1941 as you mentioned that would definitely make sense. Both trucks are titled. One as a 1942 and the other is a 1945. You are most likely correct that they were built for a Truck Body purpose. The winch on front also adds to that theory by other commenters. One expressed that the trucks were specifically made for engineers. I ran out to look for the number but unfortunately the frame has been fish plated from behind the spring perch to the front tandem. I love the history and appreciate your knowledge! 😊
Sure looks like your on "the right track now". Apparently there is no expression of pending success for the left track. Merry Christmas and Happy New year.
May be a silly stupid idea. But could you get a ultrasonic transducer on it leave it powered on for a night with penetrating oil or evapo-rust.???? hell I don't know.
They are just newer pins bushings and chains. The machine was parked in an area that sub irrigated. Only the pins on the bottom where it was parked are sticky. It was parked for more than three or four decades. Unfortunately this is the best set of track chains pins and bushings out of everything we have. 😊👍
Hey up you two i want to say congratulations but didn't want to jinx it, looks like pressing is a winner though, was wondering why youse didn't remove track pads for better access
I think we've removed them and installed them so many times we didn't want to do it again. The wax was just kind of an experiment. Thanks for the congratulations I think they're ready for Lefty! 😺
Judging by what I can see of those tracks they look to be worn out. Probably not worth the effort. however this is great content. Especially for someone who may not have the option to replace them. Sometimes you just have to fix what you got. A challenge like that is usually the fun ones. Maybe put buster up on blocks and let her run for a day or so in high gear. Might make for a good time lapse video
These chains are actually very good. They are the best that we have. The pins and chains are like new. At least according to my gauge. Which I think has been the problem all along. I think the tolerances and sitting in a sub irrigated area for decades welded them tight with rust. I think we have these in a good enough position to go on Lefty now. 😊👍
@LAOL - @FarmCraft101 built a weak $150/$200 portable press and a stronger $300/$500 portable press with a 50 ton bottle jack for the tracks on his excavator, Large Marge.
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I don't know about anyone else, but I'm enjoying the track busting episodes.
Me too!
I'll never be tired of track busting videos 😊
Not gonna lie, I kind of chuckled a bit when you "accidently" hit the horn button 😹
It's so easy to do accidentally on those controls. I thought about cutting it out of the video but Dad and I laughed about it. Both of us have done it quite a bit. 🤣
Boys - soak them in oil/fuel mix. I had a shallow pan made. Raised machine up with blade and ripper. Lowered track frame into used oil/fuel oil mix. Rotated after a full day to next section. Takes a few days. But nothing like it for close fit tracks or rusted up ones. Stop monkeying around. Merry Christmas
You're right. Merry Christmas to you and yours as well.
Yes, a great idea! My father used to maintain windmills in his day. I remembered him boiling up beeswax as he was a beekeeper ( Always Wax lying around and he would dip bolts and nuts into it and let them soak while the wax boiled away. He professed to say what happened was that the wax would work its way into the metal as the metal expanded. Did it work? Yep you betcha, as we had our own windmill with dipped bolts with which he was always playing around to get better mill action and needed the bolts removed and they all came undone as per requirements. He never used any Penetrene Oil ( In the Day was its name) on his waxed bolts. I did go on many of his windmill repair jobs and all bolts that were waxed were never seized.
Hey man, I like your humor, I enjoy watching you work at it and never give in. That is what made both our countries great places, the tenacity of its pioneers going forward.
I must thank Squatch for introducing me to your channel as like yours, both channels are very entertaining. Thanks for sharing. Very Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year to you all.
I love your story! It definitely reinforces my belief in the wax trick. Also appreciate the kind words. Squatch really did us a favor and helped the channel! Merry Christmas to you and yours as well!
Gary,, what is an Xmas 😢
Lord forgive me for I have sinned,
I drove a 4th gear tractor in 5th gear pinned ! 😂
Working on the county road graders, I've used dot 3 brake fluid "warmed" in a micro wave with good success applied to heated bolts and nuts. Do enjoy the agri cowboy episodes!
I never considered brake fluid. Imagine it's acidic enough to work its way in there quite well. 🤔
I hope you have the troublesome spots loose now. We could use a kitty update when you can.
I think we're in a good place with the tracks. We'll get some kitties in future videos. Right now they're all doing quite well and very happy. 😺
I got sent over here by squatch253 and am enjoying the content so I have now Subbed. Have a happy holiday season....
Great channel, do you watch North West Hillbilly too?
@@raincoast9010 No but I will now give it a look. Thanks for the heads up....
Thank you and happy holidays to you and yours as well!
Congratulations getting the tracks to crack. LAOL strikes home with me after losing our LEO son in the line of duty. Prayers for your continued growth. I've given the advice that I gave my son .. Always Forward. Many blessings.
God bless you and your family on this journey none of us asked for. Prayers to you and your family. I always think of the American Bison. Into the storm! Moving forward. Making their way through the storm. ❤️
50% Automatic gear box fluid, 50% Accetone is the best Penestrating Oil , although there is a product now available in the USA called Kroil that seems to be exceptional as well.
We've used some Kroil. Dad loves it, I'm not convinced. I think your acetone gearbox fluid is probably the best bet. I put a little bit of oil on those pins every time we park it. 😊👍
How about bolting a 2x2 square tube right above the tight pins. This would give you the return pressure on every revolution of the tracks. Use the pad bolts to hold this on.
That's not a bad idea. 🤔
I graduated from Friends High School in Kotzebue Alaska in 1965. My summer job that year was at the Kennecott Copper mine in Bornite Alaska. They had a a D8 that had worn out track pins. They used a porta power to press them out. They then turned them and reinserted them.
Tracks are tight because the pins and bushings are like new
Be careful of adding lubricants to track pins - mixed with sand and mud outside it can become a grinding paste and do more damage than good. Wax may be a good choice because it’s solid so will push out, but don’t be tempted by grease or oil!
that looks really promising at the end guys - keep going!
A guy I know put a new set of rails on a D-4 and let it set over winter.Went to use it after several months and realized several pins were stuck like yours.Used it several hours farming did'nt help,tried pounding on them which did'nt help and finally took the tracks to the track shop and had them push the pins out and cleaning them up,which cost almost what he paid for the new rails.Put them back on.They worked good but he let it sit a while and when he went to use it had a bunch more that had rusted and stuck. Was hoping you had the answer.Was parked in a shed.
I wish we had an easy solution. It's taken everything we've done. We only have two that are still a little sticky but do move. 👍
For a second there the porta press sounded like a jack hammer. I thought that was what you were using.
What an odyssey it has been! Kudos for freeing all the stuck links!
Looks like you are making progress. Two Ideas that I may try on the last three links are: 1. Remove the two adjacent pads and fabricate a lever arm/beam to bolt on each link. Then install a hydraulic cylinder between the two beams so the sticking joint can be moved back and forth as long as needed to free the sticking pin. 2. Remove two adjacent track pads on each each side of the sticky joint. Then fabricate a heavy plate to bolt on in place of the pads to immobilize the two free joints on each side of the sticky pin and run it like that. This would likely force the sticky pin to flex on each rotation of the track.
Great idea! Might be something we end up doing. I'm curious about the Dynamics these track chains will have I'm Lefty. 😊👍
Wet snow will loosen any thing lol
I wish we would get a nice big snow here, especially this week! 🎄
If it should move and doesn't add heat and force. If it still doesn't move, make it liquid and it will move.
Can't believe you don't have any snow there yet.
It's unseasonably warm here. Hit 64° today. We had a big snow storm about a month ago and that's been it.
@@lifeafterourloss Been mild here this December in Kelowna British Columbia. Just above freezing. Some snow, but it disappears quickly.
To heck with the candle-lit dinner - take her to a fancy restaurant. Really enjoy your videos (found out from Squatch).
🤣, thank you! Squatch really did help the channel. We're very happy to have you here with us at LAOL.
Nice! Progess is progress regardless of how slow it is.
The date didn't go well turns out we weren't a match. 🤣
Use birthday cake candles easiest to apply where needed
Excellent idea for next time! 😊👍
Haha...the classic horn trick on dad...cant say I've never done that to my dad...lmao
It was an accident I promise, 😉. 😺
A scented candle no less...
Only the best for Lefty! 😺
I found just find a rock bile and drive over it a while the uneven of it will make them loosen up iv had new tracks rust up and that worked
You know a lot of guys have a nicknames because of one incident that left everyone with a similar conclusion but no matter what your video theme is you’re Dad is always cleaning !
He cannot not be cleaning !
Even the torch tips must be cleaned!
Your Mother must love the fact that he is so particular and meticulous he keeps proving himself to be the cleanest every episode and nobody beats him 😀🇨🇦
Um, about the Cleaner cleaning at home......I think I'm just going to stay out of that one, 😂.
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I’m not at all tired of your track busting videos. I have been fighting the same problem with new tracks on a TD-7G for the last 15 years or so.
The best success we’ve had was with using a Jack hammer (breaker hammer) mounted on a Bobcat to force the links with the machine jacked up to rebend the links. This was all done after the links had been oiled and heated red hot then quenched with both water and oils of all sorts.
Had all links working like they should. We used the dozer for about 40 hours in fence row cleaning. After that the transmission went out. Dozer sat in the shop for about 2 years waiting for transmission rebuild job. After about three years it’s running again but about 4 to 6 links on each side are humping up again and can barely get them pounded straight with a sledge hammer. Will probably have to call the guy back with his bobcat again for a few hours of repeated pounding back straight.
From what I’ve learned over the years. You have to get the problem links limbered enough to where you can pop them straight with one or two blows from a short ball peen hammer from top of tool box before going out on those bumpy joy rides or using for drawbar or dozer work. If the links are sticking with normal use, they will remain stuck and will be hard on both the machine and operator and carrying a grade will be almost impossible.
Thanks for the great videos!
Thank you! It's just plain hard work to get them broke loose. Your story did give me a good idea. We have a Bosch chisel Hammer with a large spade bit that might be just the trick. 🤔
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We used just a round blunt tool and it still was pretty hard on the track shoes. Also, before the worst links could be moved at all, we had to heat a bit greater than red hot, then quench with cold water hose. In this case, the tracks were installed brand new and were never really broken in. It was just used about 20 hours maybe every other year. Also, I think the new tracks links were stiff or stuck from day one and just got more frozen. Probably technically defective from day one.
I'm thinking these track chains were the same. Very close to new and just sat way too long.
That water trick only adds more rust. If it was boiling water something might have happened, if not only more rust. Now boiling oil might be a game changer.
that may be a good idea, boiling water converts the rust into black powder oxide
Spraying Freeze Lock into a heated space will do the same, not sure about the fumes, though, but it did get in and breakdown the rust and lubricate it.
10:25 Interesting angle that😄😄
It's nice to have a camera that I'm less worried about for shots like that! 😊👍
We used the paraffin wax trick on the exhaust manifold bolts on a 530 John Deere, we didn’t think it would work but it totally did. Barely had to put pressure on the bolts with the wrench.
It's kinda funny, there is a RUclips video of a WW2 IH dozer that was submerged in a swamp for 43 years. They finally got it out and the tracks were as free as can be on the first try
I've seen that tractor in person. It's an amazing story! Sometimes I wonder if our dry climate here has a strange effect on rust. Although our tracks were sitting for decades in a somewhat wet area. These are also newer chains and pins. I wonder if the water kept them from getting oxygen to make rust in the IH?
Good morning Aaron, brilliant work on finally getting them tracks to crack before you wear them out too!
I did get a horrible vision when you said about tucking your pants in so the grousers don't grab you as a tube of grease. That would just be horrible especially after slipping into 5th gear.
I think those cats are missing some gold tinsel for Christmas 🎄 🎅
Have a lovely Christmas and a Happy New Year to yourself, Greg the cleaner, not forgetting your wife, mum and the rest of your family.
Thank you again for your brilliant videos and I'm already looking forward to watching next year's videos. Please take care of everyone 👍👍👍
Thank you Anthony. I'm a 3rd Generation operator and have heard some horrific stories. Figured a little "scared straight" safety reminder wouldn't hurt. Wishing you and yours a a merry Christmas and happy New Year as well! Thank you for the many comments and kind words. 😊👍🎄
Keep after it you’ve almost got them beat. Hope you and your family have a Merry Christmas.
Thank you! Merry Christmas to you and yours as well! 😊👍🎄
Squatch has a great press setup to remove pins. You should get his plans.
We may eventually go that route. 👍
@@lifeafterourlossSquatch’s press was sufficient to handle the pins from 5J1113 but as I recall he wasn’t confident in using it on anything bigger. Dave at Farmcraft101 just put out a video of a farmer built pin press for Large Marge, his excavator. Haven’t watched it yet but Large Marge is a very large machine.
@tmscheum I will check it out. 👍
If you can get them moving at all, when transferring them across you can work them a bit more when off the machine.
Impressed that you guys don't give up...good for you, keep it up. Another good, informative, and fun video. Thanks.
Good to see you boys back! 😊
Thank you for supporting the channel! 😊
Looking for a way to loosen mine, was hoping the wax would work
That's great to see you guys having a win finally. Merry Christmas from Australia 🇦🇺 and Happy New Year🎉
Thank you! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you as well. 😊👍🎄
We use bees wax and heat on the Bering sea for big stuck bolts and pins
Hi guys love watching yous work on those old girls Merry Christmas guys and wishing yous all the best in the new year
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too! 😺🎄
It is going on the right direction, slowly but surely, merry christmas LAOL family, greetings from Finland.
Merry Christmas to you and yours! 😊👍🎄
The only trouble I’ve had with wax is if it doesn’t work and I go back to penetrating oil, the wax keeps it out of the joint. The cure is of course more heat to burn the wax out. It looks like it did work, fingers crossed!
I always wondered what the LAOL was about. I just watched a couple of previous videos about how you lost your son. I truly can't imagine how I would cope with life if I lost my only son. I don't know if I could go on. I have newfound respect for you sir. I am here because of your friend Squatch. I have met him in person two times now, being that I live in southern MN. He is one hell of a wrench and it appears that you and your dad can hold your own also. Have a Merry Christmas. Trust me, I'll be back.
Thank you so much for the kind words! Squatch is a great guy and really helped the channel. Merry Christmas to you and yours as well! 😊👍🎄
The track video's are tough to watch, there's a track rebuilding shop about 10 minutes from me. They would have those things pressed apart in like 30 minutes. Merry christmas and hope you get em busted loose my friend!
Wish I had a trach place nearby. Thank you and merry Christmas to you and yours as well! 😊👍🎄
Have a Merry Christmas fellas happy new year as well
Merry Christmas to you and yours as well! 😺🎄
Have you tried smacking the pin with a spike mail and sledge hammer? Just moving the pin a fraction should loosen it up.
We have. I estimate it's going to take 80 to 90 tons to actually break them loose. Fortunately I think we've done a good enough job to put them on Lefty. 👍
@ we would get brand new rolled up track assemblies from Cat and have to smack each pin with a spike mall and 16 lb. sledge to get them to unroll!
You guys are persistent enough you will overcome those stuck tracks. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! I’m looking forward to seeing what you and cleaner do with your Cats in the new year. Will the herd grow even more???? Thanks!
There's a couple Strays out there we haven't rounded up yet. 😉 Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours as well! 😊👍🎄
"Very festive"............LOL, You crack me up!! Merry Christmas everyone.
Thank you and merry Christmas to you and yours! 😁
good stuff and fun to watch
Not a fan of starting fluid, but sometimes it's the only solution.
- 1° here. Merry Christmas.
We use it sparingly, 😖. Unseasonably warm 55 degrees here. Been that way for the past 3 or 4 weeks. Stay warm and merry Christmas to you and yours as well. 😊👍🎄
they could raise the Titanic Eiser Lol
I think I would rather try to tackle that, then another set of sticky tracks! 🤣
I do that on my E-Bikes I soak the chain in Asatone, and boil it in wax, last for ages, and the best bit it does not pick up dirt! so it should be the best way as use oil and its like grinding paste.
And give KROIL a try.
I've done that on my bicycle changes as well! Dad loves his kroil so we put a few squirts in the chains already. 😊👍
Your committed I’ll give ya that :) two thoughts. 1. Have you tried heating the bushings hot before driving it? Maybe try heating one up hot and running it to see if the expansion from the heat helps break it loose. 2. If you only have 3 or 4 stubborn ones left why not just press those ones out? Keep at it you’ll get it, we have to do this with our Sixty chains so I feel your pain. I think we’re to the point of having to press all the pins out. Take care gents and merry Christmas
Hey Ironman! So we tried the track press and it failed. I think D4 pins take a lot of pressure. Especially sticky ones, 😖. I really like the idea of heating them up and driving it around. I think that's something we'll have to try on the last couple of sticky pins. Merry Christmas to you and yours as well! 🎄
@@lifeafterourloss I'd worry about damaging the heat treating of the pins and bushings.Guess it depends how hot you get them.
@EL300B We were careful not to get them too hot. Just enough to flex them a little bit. I've had folks tell me they got them glowing red hot and still had issues. My opinion on heat is just enough to make it move. 👍
That's better than that thier Christmas log!
I tried out neat trailer wash on a IH 125 Drott. Soaked the links, you could see the rust coming out. Its also soapy so lubricates. I will be trying on my D4 next year
I will have to give that a try! Lefty is certainly going to need a bath anyway after the break-in. 👍
@@lifeafterourloss I sprayed the links using a weed spray pump so it got in the joints. The wash needs to be strong and applied neat. You could see the rust coming out.
@@DOCTORDROTTAny particular brand you recommend?
Light a candle to appease the Track Gods
I think it worked!
Yikes, i was waiting for the chain to break!
It made us nervous too! I was happy to stay clear out of the line of fire. Fortunately those are very highly rated load chains from when we used to haul equipment. 😁
Sent by squatch, 11.3k, Christmas should be good to you guys with his help
It certainly is. 😊👍
Have you tried a mixture of acetone and auto transmission fluid in a garden sprayer, it works GOOD !! I Enjoy your channel
I haven't tried it yet. Definitely not opposed to giving it a shot. I think we've got it narrowed down to two stuck pins. Appreciate the compliment. 😊👍
Heat, beat, drive. Rinse, lather, repeat! All it really takes is time....
A very true statement! 😁
Great Christmas festival, I did enjoy the Music. :) I had thought of using the power of Freezing the pins, using liquid nitrogen. But please keep on moving forward.
Merry Christmas
We are hoping for a big snowstorm to drive it in! Merry Christmas to you and yours as well! 😊👍🎄
Maybe Santa will bring you some nicely loosened cat tracks! Merry Christmas to my Colorado Comrades!
It's definitely on my list. The question is, have I been good? 🤔
Merry Christmas 🎄. I would like to see a review of the Vevor hydraulic pump and hydraulic Jack's and get your thoughts on the Vevor quality.
That's a good idea! When Lefty is completely done I'm going to review all the tools we made and bought for the project. I will say that the hydraulic pumps are worth what you pay for them. 😊👍
Good job now that they're moving that oil is going to get in there and really work!😊
I think so! We feel pretty good about putting these on Lefty now.
I think we are confident enough that these can go on Lefty now.
I think we are confident enough that these can go on Lefty now. 👍
Track busting is fun!!
Would you have an entire track chain and grouser pads that is absolutely so wore out that it is completely unusable, scrap only, that you would want to get rid of? I only need one side, but depending on . . . Maybe I'd take 2 tracks??? . . . . Doesn’t matter if they're from a D2, D5, etc . . . Not sure where else to look / who else to ask, so thought I'd post here.
I'll have a look. Are you a member of ACMOC? (Antique Caterpillar Machinery Owners Club) they have an online forum and a for sale/wanted section.
@lifeafterourloss I'm not, but I need to join,
@billhartl6601 They are highly recommended! I don't quite have any chains I can part with at the moment. If you're just using them for a project or a fire pit I would recommend checking with your local John Deere or Caterpillar dealer. Perhaps even an excavating company in your area that runs D4s fives or threes.
@@lifeafterourloss thank you! I've got a call into a somewhat close coal mining company! Figure they might replace crawler track chains now and then
@@lifeafterourloss thank you for checking! I've got a call into a somewhat close coal mining company, I figured they might have to replace a few crawler track chains now and then
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!!
Same to you as well! 🎄
Heat them and drive them while hot
I think that's an excellent idea. We'll give it a try on the remaining two. 👍
Enjoying your videos immensely. What bolts and nuts are you using to hold the track pads onto the chain. We are fixing up a early 50's HT4 and it has many loose pads, Thanks Bob
They are aftermarket grade 8 bolts and washers. I got them from a place called Tracks and Teeth. The nuts are from Caterpillar. I was able to find them using the original part numbers. For some reason the nuts were cheaper from Caterpillar but the bolts were cheaper from tracks and teeth. 👍
@@lifeafterourloss Thank you, keep up the good work..
Looks like some progress finally there at the end with that porta-power. Good stuff!
Merry Christmas to you and all your family! I’ve enjoyed watching you guys this last year and look forward to the projects you have planned for the next! Peace! ❤️
We feel quite confident about it. I think the tracks are ready for Lefty. We've got some crazy adventure set for next year. 👍 we very much appreciate your dedication to the channel. ❤️ 😊
Ita alot of extra work, but you could take all the pads off, flip the chains inside out and run it (preferably on jack stands) to stress the pin movement on the other side.
That's not a bad idea! 🤔
The 48 star flag matches the GMCs nicely. Did you ever do an article on the GMCs? I'm curious as to whether the crane units were factory or fitted after their service life. I've seen some originals with Bay City units.
Very few people have actually noticed the 48 star flag. Both of those were fron service members in my family. They are all post-war conversions by a company called Power Motive here in Denver. I have several videos on them. I think there's even a playlist. We did a will it start on the truck and on the crane. My grandfather was the only one that could really run either one of those machines. 😊👍
@@lifeafterourloss Us foreigners ( Scottish ) tend to notice stuff like that. I owned a CCKW, a smaller 7100 series Chevrolet, and a DUKW. The chassis numbers on those CCKWs also have letter codes, which can tell you if it was built as a truck or supplied as a cab and chassis to a specialist coach builder for whatever reason.
@gordonmcmillan4709 Very interesting! When I was in Europe it was surprising how many jeeps and trucks I saw running around. Most of the ones here got put to very hard and sometimes abusive farm work. A CCKW like the ones I have are getting to be scarce. Where can I find the chassis numbers?
@@lifeafterourloss All the WW2 stuff is quite valued here, though most of it got chewed up by salted roads. Norwegian army was using GMCs, Dodges, and jeeps into the 1990s. Normal chassis number position is side of the left front chassis rail around / above the front spring hanger. They made primarily hard cab CCKWs till 1941 and for the rest of the war they used soft top cabs so the vehicle would knock down to a lower volume for shipment. If they knew that a chassis / cab was going to be used for a back body setup that couldn't be knocked down - like a big crane - they sometimes used hard cabs after 1941, which is why I wondered if those cranes were factory. I have the details and options in a manual ( somewhere )
This adds more credence to the truck body or crane theory. I know for a fact these were post-war converted. If they were built past 1941 as you mentioned that would definitely make sense. Both trucks are titled. One as a 1942 and the other is a 1945. You are most likely correct that they were built for a Truck Body purpose. The winch on front also adds to that theory by other commenters. One expressed that the trucks were specifically made for engineers. I ran out to look for the number but unfortunately the frame has been fish plated from behind the spring perch to the front tandem. I love the history and appreciate your knowledge! 😊
You need to contact ed China and see if you can't borrow his tub of evapo-rust😅
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Sounds like sizzling bacon, yum
Sure looks like your on "the right track now". Apparently there is no expression of pending success for the left track. Merry Christmas and Happy New year.
I see what you did there 😉. Merry Christmas to you as well. 😊👍
May be a silly stupid idea. But could you get a ultrasonic transducer on it leave it powered on for a night with penetrating oil or evapo-rust.???? hell I don't know.
It's possible. I know my Sonic Cleaner does wonders.
I'm starting to think are the pins in those tracks the wrong ones,,,,Is it possible there slightly bigger than what's supposed to be in there,,,
They are just newer pins bushings and chains. The machine was parked in an area that sub irrigated. Only the pins on the bottom where it was parked are sticky. It was parked for more than three or four decades. Unfortunately this is the best set of track chains pins and bushings out of everything we have. 😊👍
Ever eat a crayon 🖍️? Ever eat a candle 🕯️?
Birthday 🎂 candles 🕯️
For more precision and and and you could have colorful scented tracks.
I could never really figure out what flavor burnt sienna is? 🤣 😜
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That is funny 😆
Soaking in water works, but they need to be soaked for a couple months not just a week
I suspect you're right. Grandpa was sure it would work. It certainly did in his experience. 👍
Good Lord man! Run the machine and be done with it.
On it! They're going on Lefty now.
Tried doing that and after about four hours could'nt take any more,too rough.
@EL300B I completely understand.
Hitting things with hammers works every time
And if doesn't work...... get a bigger hammer 🔨 ⚒️ 👍
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
Between a big hammer and Dad's cutting torch we can break loose about anything. 😁
Merry Christmas to you as well! 🎄
have done the big hammer thing, lots of work but its a big help
Road gear? Ride um cowboy😂
Hey up you two i want to say congratulations but didn't want to jinx it, looks like pressing is a winner though, was wondering why youse didn't remove track pads for better access
I think we've removed them and installed them so many times we didn't want to do it again. The wax was just kind of an experiment. Thanks for the congratulations I think they're ready for Lefty! 😺
@lifeafterourloss only ment a few individual pads by the way
@@johngibson3837 Yep, we probably should have to do it right.
@@lifeafterourloss might help with the pressing too
Judging by what I can see of those tracks they look to be worn out. Probably not worth the effort. however this is great content. Especially for someone who may not have the option to replace them. Sometimes you just have to fix what you got. A challenge like that is usually the fun ones. Maybe put buster up on blocks and let her run for a day or so in high gear. Might make for a good time lapse video
These chains are actually very good. They are the best that we have. The pins and chains are like new. At least according to my gauge. Which I think has been the problem all along. I think the tolerances and sitting in a sub irrigated area for decades welded them tight with rust. I think we have these in a good enough position to go on Lefty now. 😊👍
@@mmm365 You got that right!
Farm craft 101 made a pin press in his last video for about 350.00 its worth a look and it works great
I will check it out!
Candle wax sounds like going on a hot date😉. But it seems to work.
I don't think it hurt to try. 😊
Coincidently Jon at FarmCraft101 built a pin press on his channel on yesterday's (12/20) episode: ruclips.net/video/SM5OhK0DJ_I/видео.html
I will check it out, thank you. 😊👍
Fyi farmcraft101 just built an economical pin press. Not sure if it would work for you.
I will check it out, thank you.
@LAOL - @FarmCraft101 built a weak $150/$200 portable press and a stronger $300/$500 portable press with a 50 ton bottle jack for the tracks on his excavator, Large Marge.
Thank you. I will check it out. 😊👍