Might be able to track him based on the license plate of the truck and or trailer they used to deliver it. Might not be theirs, but it’s a place to start.
Not going to look at something used before you buy it was pretty brave of you. Never underestimate the dishonesty of people selling something, especially on Facebook.
@@dannybaggs7030 With a buisness sure, but for just an individual you don't want to be responsible for some crazed internet vigilante harassing them or trying to go to their home.
@@trentcarbino921 It is legal so long as everything you state is factual. The fear of most people is that they will be sued anyway and waste money on attorney fees defending themselves.
Pacific Northwest Hilllbilly just went through this. Bought a Kubota 4 cylinder off eBay, seller says it runs and has 1000 hrs. When it arrives it has 0 compression on 3 cylinders - it was completely dusted. I was disappointed he didn't name the seller in the video.
DID YOU KNOW, that if you paid with a credit card, just call the credit card company and lodge a complaint. They will stop payment. Typically they will call you and ask for your side of the story, then call the other party and ask for their side of the story. BE concise, no BS, no exaggeration, give them exactly what they ask for. The credit card company doesn't have time for drama and will make a decision usually within a day. Good luck.
100% on you for not checking it. You cant take anyones word because they could either be intentionally screwing you or they had no idea. If you had taken 2 min to see if it turned when it was still on the trailer there would have been no issues.
Scott you are good to everyone you come in contact with. You have helped so many people. You dont deserve to be done like this. I hope whoever sold you this engine has a change of heart in the near future and sends you the money back. People like him are disgusting.
The seller committed fraud. Bring suit yourself. The facts are not complicated. A judge can see the facts in the video. The buyer can identify the seller, and claim costs also. The seller’s representation of the condition of the engine constituted an implied contract under TN law. Fraudulent representation is illegal.
sold as is/where is with no guarantee or warranty implied. They should have taken 2 min to throw an wrench on the crank nut and checked if it was free.
If you dipped this engine in rust remover, you’d just have just the exhaust manifolds and some aluminum for recycling. The KY sponsorship was just pure genius!! 🤣🤣
Got hosed like that once on a big block chevy. "Ran good, but too hard to start when cold and too much cam for my wood hauling truck." Got it home and one head had been shaved 50 thou more than the other and had stake marks around the valve seats, and all those pistons on that same bank had DESTROYED ringlands. He ghosted me when I wanted even an explanation, never even asked for money back. He earned his marketplace review that day.
Scott I feel for ya. I would've asked the seller to open up access panels and take pics. Video of the turbo turning, etc, etc. With your experience, I'm surprised you trusted a seller. Lessons learned. Happy New Year!
That is a real shame. It almost looks like it came out of a river. It has had a continuous water flow into it for a long time. The seller probably got this engine for free on it's way to a recycling center and then just lied about the condition.
Having an actual affiliate link in the description was the icing on top. But, maybe you should have made it the 2-pack just to insure that one would have enough and not run out half way through.
Problem is, with the cost of a lawyer, unless one just has the money to stand on principle, it's cheaper to salvage what one can and write off the rest. I bought something that was a complete piece of junk. A lawyer was nice enough to explain to me that his cheapest litigation would be more than the cost of the item if I just bought another one.
@@excavatoree Also, it's second hand, so as-is unless Scott got something else - in writing. Everything said about being stored indoors etc. can't be proven, sadly.
Yeah lawyer will bleed you more the the cost of the engine. Lawyers only see one thing, they don’t see helping, doing what is right, or care for the fellow man, if there isn’t money attached the lawyer don’t care how bad you got screwed. I found that out once and never made that mistake again.
They lied that motor hasn't ran in decades however it'sbeen sitting outside for decades.....boat anchor If it's worth the headache that would be a nice challenge to rebuild like new? Blasting steel beed the block New liners Rebuild the heads New camshafts and crankshaft New injectors....rebuild that classic and post your progress I love to see that Detroit run again
Not really, because the permanent and total damage was inside the engine. Looking at it would not change the seller’s representation of it. The seller committed fraud. Bring suit.
Sorry that you got screwed on this purchase and hopefully the seller will do the right thing…… rather than tell you what I would have done differently, I did like the humor with the KY advert. Had a little chuckle. Also would like to say that considering what happened you have kept your cool remarkably well. I would be orbiting the moon right about now as well as being banned by RUclips for WAY too many bad words.
Around the valves of the head, there were actually "rustikles" that formed. That's a new one for me Also, the dude that sold the engine knew the motor was garbage. We need to work together to make the World a better place for US, and screwing someone over because of money, that tells me everything you need to know about the seller of the engine
AS my dad once told me, "Nobody pulls out a good running engine" And then I went and bought a 396 BB advertised as running well when pulled out. It had a broken crank
so what happens when a perfect running truck or what ever's in an accident and the body/frames totaled and it's written off as salvage non repairable or the body is totally rotten but it runs fine. Yeah somebody pulls it out and sells it, so that statement isn't always true !
OMG what a crying shame that is. I feel bad for the owner. I hope this video spreads words on the sham level FB marketplace really is. I have never had luck with FBMP.
I would venture to say the seller of that anchor does not know that you have a pretty popular YT channel. If he did not before and gets word of this I would hope that he would do the honorable thing. Morally he is on the hook in my eyes as thats a huge hit for most anybody to take. Karma... It has been ages since i have seen an engine that totally locked up and basically worthless even as a core/donor. I'm hoping this situation works out for the best all the way around Scott.
@@BusGreaseMonkey Benefit of the doubt or not, he could have easily tried to bar the engine over, take off some inspection covers prior to delivery and snap a few up to date pictures for you to look over. I'd feel bad if I didn't disclose major issues and just assumed that things written 6 years ago still held true. For peace of mind for myself and the buyer, I double or triple check things just in case. Updating my listings if anything changes. The fact he was so eager to deliver it, get it off his trailer and ignore you afterwards speaks volumes. It's common courtesy to reply to someone who just gave you a hefty chunk of change for something.
I have found that Facebook Marketplace has two kinds of sellers: 1) scammers 2) stupid people trying to resell items in order to make a buck It’s mostly #2, where they have acquired items in an estate sale or super cheap somewhere & they have no idea of actual condition.
I guess I would have verified that it turned 360° before I picked it off his trailer. But I have gotten bit a couple times in the past with junk engines
That thing looks like i came off if the Titanic. I got screwed on a craigslist trade when I was in HS. I tried to trade my truck for a more fuel efficient car in 2008 when gas prices were over 4 dollars a gallon. Drove the car for a bit and it completely fell apart. It even had a cracked sub frame I didn't catch because I didn't have a lift. I hate people that do that to people. I didn't have alot of money and couldn't fix it.
Scott, I really feel for you and the Wanderlodge owner. I've watched your channel and you seem like an honorable businessman. What happened sucks. The KY ad was so appropriate! Good luck with getting made whole on this!!!!
I sold my 87 Isuzu truck. Carb needed replaced. Brake cylinder too. I was totally upfront and told every issue. Had the mechanics paperwork of what was needed. 89,000 original miles. The guy did not care he wanted the truck. E gone started and he ran it till the carb hit too much gas. But he knew it all I was honest. He loved the truck. That was on FB marketplace. I checked his page out first to see what he had been posting. Honest guy. Did not hide any issues.
Scott: so sorry you had to experience this, but take heart. People who do things like this FORGET, that YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW!!!! And you reap MORE than you sow, cuz one 'seed' produces MULTIPLE FRUIT!!
To be honest when he shut up after you wanted some recourse said it all to me. He knew it was like that. Because if I'm selling an engine the least i do before loading it is make sure it still turns that takes 5 seconds to do if it won't i let the buyer know hey its not turning over I'm not going to sell it to you.
@@v12alpine Small claims court. Probably about $50 to file a case. No lawyers allowed in small claims. Present seller's representation and video of how it was when received, pretty much open and shut case. Still costs the time to go to court. May not be worth that few hours time.
Stored indoors at a low place in a flood plain, methinks. That is really really sad. I hope you have SOME recourse. A two by for springs to mind. Or perhaps a call to Benny the Bat.
Stored outside very likely. I made the mistake of not immediately dealing with a blown headgasket in my diesel benz, and it caused quite a bit of damage from sitting/corrosion, engine shop was able to salvage the block though, I got veeery lucky. Nothing like this Detroit though, this one is baaad.
That is why ebay has a better protection. If seller is not real and sells faulty products. They are no longer aloud to sell anything that isn't up to snuff.
ok, the cleaned up pipe with the black marker scribble claiming ran in 2018, says it all, total SCAM fest. if sitting since 2018, there's no way that pipe and marker scribble would be so perfect looking or anywhere near, even Arizona indoors stored! edit: I would say sitting since 2008 or 1998! even if no leaking roof or flood waters, it was in a bad climate area with wide temperature swings and they rapidly heated /cooled in winter often.
That thing must have been stored sideways out doors cause how else there was so much water in it. Block could be useable when hot tanked but the rest seems like it was removed for a reason and had a fault before it was left for dead.
I feel your pain. I just got screwed $18.000 on a marketplace prevost bus. He delivered it from fla to mass and took the money and ran. Has a rotted frame and he promised me an EXCELLENT CONDITION BUS. I got completely SCREWED.
And so no one else gets screwed by this guy that screwed me he is selling a few other busses in marketplace and has a youtube channel too. His name is Arnt Vagle owner of luxury motor coach leasing llc in florida. Buyer beware. Im hiring a lawyer to go after him.
It would be an interesting experience to soak that mess in a vat of EvapORust for a week or so. Wonder if the EVOR folks would donate enough for a test? Might be a good advertisement for them. I use the product frequently, but of course, never on a scale such as this.
Should have barred it over before the dude even loosened the straps. Actually would have been a funny video to see the guy sweat as you walked up with the breaker bar and socket haha
One must bar the engine over before ever taking it off the trailer. Seeing how easy it is to pull those side covers off to expose the cylinders, seems like it would have been very easy to do before it came off the trailer also. Sorry you guys got screwed, but I feel you should know better at this point. Could have sent it back home the second you noticed it didn't bar over, who is paying for you guys to keep tearing this thing down?
another example of a "pig-in-a-poke", my rule of thumb is if I can't hear it run, it's worth scrap value. sometimes you win, most often you lose, but at least you can scrap it and not get too hurt.
I am so disappointed to watch this. Your honor, integrity and competence has spoiled us. The seller should be ashamed of himself and hope he somehow exposed to protect future potential buyers. I feel horrible for your customer. I’m sure he is thrilled to know how much more this will cost him.
I consider all used engines to be nothing but cores at best if I can't see them run and even then I have got junk when I could hear them run (oil burners, cracked blocks, sludge).
Reminds me of a boat trailer I sold. Told the guy it had good wheel bearings and would be no problem towing it back home 6 hours away. I took it for a test drive after confirming the sale and man, I've never heard wheel bearings that loud before! I went out and bought new hubs/bearings and got them installed before he arrived the next day. I figured they were good but must have gotten water in them at some point so I made it right without him ever knowing about it.
The seller was more than happy to ship it to you so: 1) you don't know (yet) where he is. 2) you took this rusty boat anchor off his hands for tax-free cash. Pursue him, Scott. Rob is too nice a person to burn this much cash w/o benefit over a BEAUTIFUL bus.
So Sorry Scott!! In these cases I think you should post on RUclips and FB who the seller is! It might not change your situation but It might help someone else. If everyone did this it would help correct some of the fraud!!
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He delivered it because he doesn’t want you to know where he lives.
Yes the delivered part was probably a big red flag. He must have worked on Wall Street to know such psychological manipulation 😂😂😂
Right
@@paulwatson1507 He appeared to be in a hurry.
My first thought . . .
Might be able to track him based on the license plate of the truck and or trailer they used to deliver it. Might not be theirs, but it’s a place to start.
Not going to look at something used before you buy it was pretty brave of you. Never underestimate the dishonesty of people selling something, especially on Facebook.
Name the seller so that everyone knows not to deal with him in future.
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I feel like almost every video like this never names the bad business or person.
It's because it opens up the risk of a retaliatory lawsuit
@@dannybaggs7030 With a buisness sure, but for just an individual you don't want to be responsible for some crazed internet vigilante harassing them or trying to go to their home.
You have the platform to help expose these crooks.
I agree. If it is legal, I would put the sellers name out there to expose the loser.
I'd imagine thatd it could open the possibilities of a lawsuit against him
@@trentcarbino921
It is legal so long as everything you state is factual. The fear of most people is that they will be sued anyway and waste money on attorney fees defending themselves.
@@nicholas5623he would win in court but still lose because of the cost defending himself against the suit.
Pacific Northwest Hilllbilly just went through this. Bought a Kubota 4 cylinder off eBay, seller says it runs and has 1000 hrs. When it arrives it has 0 compression on 3 cylinders - it was completely dusted. I was disappointed he didn't name the seller in the video.
Yes it was stored indoors. Indoors a sunken boat!
😂😂😂
My first thought!
@@barryg.291 The water could have been in the engine before the seller even bought the engine.
@@ChrisHarding-lk3jj
Seller is liable for not checking and selling unusable parts when stating it runs as should
Whether the seller was aware of the true condition, or not, he should "make it right".
Right, it's not like it really cost him anything since it has been sitting around 7 or more years
DID YOU KNOW, that if you paid with a credit card, just call the credit card company and lodge a complaint. They will stop payment. Typically they will call you and ask for your side of the story, then call the other party and ask for their side of the story. BE concise, no BS, no exaggeration, give them exactly what they ask for. The credit card company doesn't have time for drama and will make a decision usually within a day. Good luck.
I have filed a complaint with my credit card company before. It took a few months to get my money refunded. But, I got it all back.
Yes....do this
Who uses credit cards to buy on FB Marketplace? I sell and it's CASH ONLY. No checks, Venmo or Zelle.
@hotpuppy1 Businesses do. Who is going to ship something 4 hours away without payment in hand?
Facebook marketplace isn’t the same as EBay. You can file a complaint with EBay directly as well as your CC Financial institution.
Publish that thief's name so we don't get burned by him!
100% on you for not checking it. You cant take anyones word because they could either be intentionally screwing you or they had no idea. If you had taken 2 min to see if it turned when it was still on the trailer there would have been no issues.
Yeah, caveat emptor.
Scott you are good to everyone you come in contact with. You have helped so many people. You dont deserve to be done like this. I hope whoever sold you this engine has a change of heart in the near future and sends you the money back. People like him are disgusting.
Beyond disgusting. Just straight up evil
There ought to be a law! Wait,there is a law,isn't there. B.
The seller committed fraud. Bring suit yourself. The facts are not complicated. A judge can see the facts in the video. The buyer can identify the seller, and claim costs also. The seller’s representation of the condition of the engine constituted an implied contract under TN law. Fraudulent representation is illegal.
OK Karen
sold as is/where is with no guarantee or warranty implied. They should have taken 2 min to throw an wrench on the crank nut and checked if it was free.
everyone can see its a piece of garbage and rust, the judge will just say that it was buyers obligation to check the motor before it was accepted.
@ exactly
@@thorsrensen3162 You are unfamiliar with the law. You are spitballing false wisdom.
I’m surprised you didn’t get a KY sponsorship sooner. I feel bad but that was hilarious.
That was funnier than $&i+ 🤣
That's a sponsor I can get behind!
HILARIOUS HAHAHA
@thereissomecoolstuff That blurb made me stop and briefly go WTF until MY second brain cell caught up with the first. LOL
The KY ad came out of the blue!! Perfect timing😂😂
If you dipped this engine in rust remover, you’d just have just the exhaust manifolds and some aluminum for recycling. The KY sponsorship was just pure genius!! 🤣🤣
and the seller never even threw in a bottle!
it is a rare privelege to be completely screwed, i usually cant afford it.
btw, happy new year, all the best.
the seller looked to a real hill billy, shame him
Lol!.
Got hosed like that once on a big block chevy. "Ran good, but too hard to start when cold and too much cam for my wood hauling truck."
Got it home and one head had been shaved 50 thou more than the other and had stake marks around the valve seats, and all those pistons on that same bank had DESTROYED ringlands. He ghosted me when I wanted even an explanation, never even asked for money back. He earned his marketplace review that day.
Not even close
My theory is that it was salvaged from a sunken boat in salt water.
He knew just didn't care
Scott I feel for ya. I would've asked the seller to open up access panels and take pics. Video of the turbo turning, etc, etc. With your experience, I'm surprised you trusted a seller. Lessons learned. Happy New Year!
That is a real shame. It almost looks like it came out of a river. It has had a continuous water flow into it for a long time. The seller probably got this engine for free on it's way to a recycling center and then just lied about the condition.
Loved the KY Jelly sponsorship, this was perfect. You need more sponsors in your videos like that. I can't stop laughing, LMFAO, LMFAO, LMFAO 😂😂😂😂😂
YEP, THAT WAS HILARIOUS 🤪😝😜💯💯💯😜😝🤪
I’m glad i brought you joy ;)
@@BusGreaseMonkey Indeed You Did 😜😝🤪💯💯💯🤪😝🥰
Having an actual affiliate link in the description was the icing on top. But, maybe you should have made it the 2-pack just to insure that one would have enough and not run out half way through.
I think it's hilarious that they actually have an affiliate link in the description...!!!
What a shame. For being stored inside, there must of been a terrible leak in the roof. If the guy won't stand up and help, I guess it's lawyer time.
Problem is, with the cost of a lawyer, unless one just has the money to stand on principle, it's cheaper to salvage what one can and write off the rest. I bought something that was a complete piece of junk. A lawyer was nice enough to explain to me that his cheapest litigation would be more than the cost of the item if I just bought another one.
@@excavatoree Also, it's second hand, so as-is unless Scott got something else - in writing. Everything said about being stored indoors etc. can't be proven, sadly.
Crap. I should have waited until the end. I see that there is nothing to salvage on this piece of scrap metal.
@@aussiebloke609 and a major disadvantage of buying something sight-unseen.
Yeah lawyer will bleed you more the the cost of the engine. Lawyers only see one thing, they don’t see helping, doing what is right, or care for the fellow man, if there isn’t money attached the lawyer don’t care how bad you got screwed. I found that out once and never made that mistake again.
Outright fraud shipping an engine like that!
the seller knew what he had. Intentional fraud.
The moment I saw that pallet and the way they had taped that thing up,,,, I knew...
Infuriating. I am so sorry this happened to you. I am also grateful that you posted the video. You are very composed.
And this is why I don’t buy used engines without factoring in disassembly and repairs. I’ve been through this so many times.
They lied that motor hasn't ran in decades however it'sbeen sitting outside for decades.....boat anchor
If it's worth the headache that would be a nice challenge to rebuild like new?
Blasting steel beed the block
New liners
Rebuild the heads
New camshafts and crankshaft
New injectors....rebuild that classic and post your progress I love to see that Detroit run again
I would explore legal actions against this person. Someone should have put eyes on this engine before purchase.
Agreed, but a lawyer will quickly cost more than the $3,500 that he paid for the engine.
@@jamestamu83 small claims?
Not really, because the permanent and total damage was inside the engine. Looking at it would not change the seller’s representation of it. The seller committed fraud. Bring suit.
You didn’t even ask for a short video of him turning it over,come on man
Need to out the punks who sold this boat anchor!!!
Sorry this happened to you and your customer. Best of luck trying to recover that money.
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Now that KY lubricant tag was brilliant 🤣😂🤣🤣
Sorry that you got screwed on this purchase and hopefully the seller will do the right thing…… rather than tell you what I would have done differently, I did like the humor with the KY advert. Had a little chuckle. Also would like to say that considering what happened you have kept your cool remarkably well. I would be orbiting the moon right about now as well as being banned by RUclips for WAY too many bad words.
You guys have my luck, if shit was worth gold, I’d been born with no arshole.😂😂
If they lied to you about where it was stored they were probably well aware of the condition of the engine
When buying a used engine such as a diesel go look at it. Hand test the roll.
You screwed yourself by not physically checking it.
Around the valves of the head, there were actually "rustikles" that formed. That's a new one for me
Also, the dude that sold the engine knew the motor was garbage.
We need to work together to make the World a better place for US, and screwing someone over because of money, that tells me everything you need to know about the seller of the engine
AS my dad once told me, "Nobody pulls out a good running engine"
And then I went and bought a 396 BB advertised as running well when pulled out. It had a broken crank
I drove a c15 cat 14 miles back to the depot with a broken crank, was still running.
so what happens when a perfect running truck or what ever's in an accident and the body/frames totaled and it's written off as salvage non repairable or the body is totally rotten but it runs fine. Yeah somebody pulls it out and sells it, so that statement isn't always true !
Serendipitous that KY sponsored this video. Should make things go a little smoother.
I sincerely hope that didn’t look like an official sponsorship ;)
@@BusGreaseMonkey😅
OMG what a crying shame that is. I feel bad for the owner. I hope this video spreads words on the sham level FB marketplace really is. I have never had luck with FBMP.
I would venture to say the seller of that anchor does not know that you have a pretty popular YT channel. If he did not before and gets word of this I would hope that he would do the honorable thing. Morally he is on the hook in my eyes as thats a huge hit for most anybody to take.
Karma...
It has been ages since i have seen an engine that totally locked up and basically worthless even as a core/donor.
I'm hoping this situation works out for the best all the way around Scott.
Since he stopped replying, he knew that he was selling a shit engine and doesn't want to take responsibility for it
Why respond in the first place? I am giving him the benefit of the doubt.
@@BusGreaseMonkey Benefit of the doubt or not, he could have easily tried to bar the engine over, take off some inspection covers prior to delivery and snap a few up to date pictures for you to look over.
I'd feel bad if I didn't disclose major issues and just assumed that things written 6 years ago still held true. For peace of mind for myself and the buyer, I double or triple check things just in case. Updating my listings if anything changes. The fact he was so eager to deliver it, get it off his trailer and ignore you afterwards speaks volumes. It's common courtesy to reply to someone who just gave you a hefty chunk of change for something.
Even Judge Judy would see this and say BGM you win, FB guy, you lose, pay up a refund and costs.
With a 178k subscribers, that's about 2 cents each for a go fund me for $3500.....I'm in.
Just watching the video will help ;) thanks.
My old boss would say " You get what you inspect!". Sorry to hear.
Sucks man but you will bounce back I'm certain. Have a happy new year brother.
I have found that Facebook Marketplace has two kinds of sellers:
1) scammers
2) stupid people trying to resell items in order to make a buck
It’s mostly #2, where they have acquired items in an estate sale or super cheap somewhere & they have no idea of actual condition.
Does seller realize the headaches it will cause if you put his name out there? He really should make it right
I guess I would have verified that it turned 360° before I picked it off his trailer. But I have gotten bit a couple times in the past with junk engines
That thing looks like i came off if the Titanic. I got screwed on a craigslist trade when I was in HS. I tried to trade my truck for a more fuel efficient car in 2008 when gas prices were over 4 dollars a gallon. Drove the car for a bit and it completely fell apart. It even had a cracked sub frame I didn't catch because I didn't have a lift. I hate people that do that to people. I didn't have alot of money and couldn't fix it.
I thought it was standard practice to bar an engine over and make sure there are no holes or cracks in the block before accepting delivery
This is an example of the crapification of every thing in this country. Sad to see this happening to a small business that is run with integrity.
Scott, I really feel for you and the Wanderlodge owner. I've watched your channel and you seem like an honorable businessman. What happened sucks. The KY ad was so appropriate! Good luck with getting made whole on this!!!!
Your KY ad made me laugh a lot! I have never used facebook or the market place because I have read about many scams on it, this is a doozy!
I sold my 87 Isuzu truck. Carb needed replaced. Brake cylinder too. I was totally upfront and told every issue. Had the mechanics paperwork of what was needed. 89,000 original miles. The guy did not care he wanted the truck. E gone started and he ran it till the carb hit too much gas. But he knew it all I was honest. He loved the truck. That was on FB marketplace. I checked his page out first to see what he had been posting. Honest guy. Did not hide any issues.
Love the ky! Facebook is getting you in trouble. Thanks for the video
What is it with Facebook Market Place and crooks They really seem to gather there ?
Oh yeah no feedback system no accountability so yeah crooks can thrive
Scott: so sorry you had to experience this, but take heart. People who do things like this FORGET, that YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW!!!! And you reap MORE than you sow, cuz one 'seed' produces MULTIPLE FRUIT!!
To be honest when he shut up after you wanted some recourse said it all to me. He knew it was like that. Because if I'm selling an engine the least i do before loading it is make sure it still turns that takes 5 seconds to do if it won't i let the buyer know hey its not turning over I'm not going to sell it to you.
Couldn't he have tried turning it over before it even came off the trailer.
@@seancasey2444 yea once it leaves the trailer it is game over. it was his last recourse.
@@v12alpine Small claims court. Probably about $50 to file a case. No lawyers allowed in small claims. Present seller's representation and video of how it was when received, pretty much open and shut case. Still costs the time to go to court. May not be worth that few hours time.
Stored indoors at a low place in a flood plain, methinks. That is really really sad. I hope you have SOME recourse. A two by for springs to mind. Or perhaps a call to Benny the Bat.
Stored outside very likely. I made the mistake of not immediately dealing with a blown headgasket in my diesel benz, and it caused quite a bit of damage from sitting/corrosion, engine shop was able to salvage the block though, I got veeery lucky. Nothing like this Detroit though, this one is baaad.
Yeah , I would have flags up on that from KY.
That KY "sponsorship" was pure gold. I hope you and your customer get made somewhat whole by the seller. This sucks like a Hoover.
That is why ebay has a better protection. If seller is not real and sells faulty products. They are no longer aloud to sell anything that isn't up to snuff.
*allowed. Different word and meaning.
Shhhhhh
Who's being so noisy...?! Aloud is different than allowed...!!!
Thanks for the the Diesel shop class. Although, Jonathan passed, the engine did not.
Get Whistlin’ Diesel on the case, lol! He’ll drive to the sellers house and put them on blast…😂🤟🏼
This just reminds me why I dropped FB yrs. ago! Expensive lesson learned!?
Not to mention that leftist Zuckerberg runs the damn thing
Who doesn’t check it’s locked up before they unload it…🤦🏼♂️
Never ever do business on marketplace unless it's local . Nobody can be trusted
Damn wish you the best happy new years
Hind sight is to turn the crank before unloading the trailer. If I need to buy a used engine I'll make that a condition of the sale.
Great video 👍 A good way to rescue rusty parts is build a tank full of citric acid and soak until clean 😢
ok, the cleaned up pipe with the black marker scribble claiming ran in 2018, says it all, total SCAM fest.
if sitting since 2018, there's no way that pipe and marker scribble would be so perfect looking or anywhere near, even Arizona indoors stored!
edit: I would say sitting since 2008 or 1998! even if no leaking roof or flood waters, it was in a bad climate area with wide temperature swings and they rapidly heated /cooled in winter often.
That thing must have been stored sideways out doors cause how else there was so much water in it. Block could be useable when hot tanked but the rest seems like it was removed for a reason and had a fault before it was left for dead.
I feel your pain. I just got screwed $18.000 on a marketplace prevost bus. He delivered it from fla to mass and took the money and ran. Has a rotted frame and he promised me an EXCELLENT CONDITION BUS. I got completely SCREWED.
And so no one else gets screwed by this guy that screwed me he is selling a few other busses in marketplace and has a youtube channel too. His name is Arnt Vagle owner of luxury motor coach leasing llc in florida. Buyer beware. Im hiring a lawyer to go after him.
It would be an interesting experience to soak that mess in a vat of EvapORust for a week or so. Wonder if the EVOR folks would donate enough for a test? Might be a good advertisement for them. I use the product frequently, but of course, never on a scale such as this.
Man! What a drag! Always look touch and taste! Good luck. I hope he makes it right.
WOW, In my opinion, that guy deserves to have his name put out all over the place. How many times has he done this to other people. Just SAD.
Lesson learned i would have performed a inspection before paying. At least bared it over
Should have barred it over before the dude even loosened the straps.
Actually would have been a funny video to see the guy sweat as you walked up with the breaker bar and socket haha
I feel your pain. One lesson learned...get the seller to send you a vid of the engine being barred over. :(
One must bar the engine over before ever taking it off the trailer.
Seeing how easy it is to pull those side covers off to expose the cylinders, seems like it would have been very easy to do before it came off the trailer also. Sorry you guys got screwed, but I feel you should know better at this point.
Could have sent it back home the second you noticed it didn't bar over, who is paying for you guys to keep tearing this thing down?
another example of a "pig-in-a-poke", my rule of thumb is if I can't hear it run, it's worth scrap value. sometimes you win, most often you lose, but at least you can scrap it and not get too hurt.
I am so disappointed to watch this. Your honor, integrity and competence has spoiled us. The seller should be ashamed of himself and hope he somehow exposed to protect future potential buyers. I feel horrible for your customer. I’m sure he is thrilled to know how much more this will cost him.
I consider all used engines to be nothing but cores at best if I can't see them run and even then I have got junk when I could hear them run (oil burners, cracked blocks, sludge).
Randy Sutter is the seller's name.
From Cave City KY or Chesaning MI according to his FB marketplace listings.
Where is Randy the Ripoff from? Town ? Phone? Shop info?
@@truckinfam2207 Cave City KY or Chesaning MI according to his FB marketplace listings
Reminds me of a boat trailer I sold. Told the guy it had good wheel bearings and would be no problem towing it back home 6 hours away. I took it for a test drive after confirming the sale and man, I've never heard wheel bearings that loud before! I went out and bought new hubs/bearings and got them installed before he arrived the next day. I figured they were good but must have gotten water in them at some point so I made it right without him ever knowing about it.
I wouldn't have paid the guy until I at least checked it out.
You never,ever buy something like that sight unseen
Unless you expose who sold this he has the right to do it again. Stand up for yourself ! Expose the fraud. Don’t be spineless America !
You know those injector tips are plugged rusted solid.
The seller was more than happy to ship it to you so: 1) you don't know (yet) where he is. 2) you took this rusty boat anchor off his hands for tax-free cash.
Pursue him, Scott. Rob is too nice a person to burn this much cash w/o benefit over a BEAUTIFUL bus.
Hey... Just a suggestion for future online buys... A facetime of engine being turned over or started...
Probably been sitting outside in the yard since 2018 😳
The Rockford Fan-Tem wet clutch fan drive is valuable.
I agree it looks like the guy didn't know it was bad, hopefully with some gentle reminders you'll get your refund and move onto the next one.
Salt water flood engine...no question, that's crooked!
Salt water? The engine came from Kentucky, not the ocean. lol
@VaporheadATC l know the guy he bought it from was in Kentucky..l highly doubt that it originated from there...
@@b.abrackus6403 why do you think salt water?
@@VaporheadATCmight have started somewhere else and ended up in ky.
So Sorry Scott!! In these cases I think you should post on RUclips and FB who the seller is! It might not change your situation but It might help someone else. If everyone did this it would help correct some of the fraud!!
OMG This video is brought to you by KY lubricants... Whether they really are your sponsor or not, that was extremely funny! But I'm very sorry that you have to endure this
Lesson learned. Always do your due diligence. Never trust no one these days , there's no honor anymore.
Damn Scott that sucks! Here is a question though is this engine worth rebuilding?
People like to call junk engines " boat anchors " this one must have literally been under a hundred feet of water
That thing was under water