Eamon De Valera's response to Winston Churchill, 1945

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  • Опубликовано: 30 окт 2014
  • May 16, 1945
    In his Victory in Europe Day speech, Churchill had been critical of De Valera and Ireland's neutrality throughout the war.
    Three days later, De Valera broadcast his response, which was widely praised for its clarity, dignity and restraint.

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  • @MySuperTan
    @MySuperTan 9 лет назад +143

    Firstly, I'm no fan of DeValera by a long shot, but I couldn't agree more with him here, and what an epic bitch-slap to Churchill too, strong words, softly spoken...

    • @johnprice7303
      @johnprice7303 9 лет назад +12

      socdemrep "Strong words,softly spoken" The hairs on my neck are standing to attention! well said indeed!

    • @darthvader5830
      @darthvader5830 4 года назад +1

      Mhm go raibh maith agat, I guess....

    • @roadrash90
      @roadrash90 3 года назад

      I couldn't agree more with you, I don't like the man who killed my hero Michael Collins.

    • @icemanire5467
      @icemanire5467 2 года назад +3

      @@roadrash90 he didn't.

    • @jimmyjohnson1870
      @jimmyjohnson1870 4 месяца назад

      @@icemanire5467 His actions during the Treaty negotiations and after it's signing practically caused the Civil War. Of course, he didn't kill Collins personally, nor was he the only violent anti-treatyite to break away, but as President of Ireland and head of that faction he shouldn't have resorted to such terrible, undemocratic actions.

  • @vedicforce5820
    @vedicforce5820 Год назад +53

    Brilliant speech. Best Wishes from India to the great Irish people for a united and prosperous Ireland.

    • @JamesRichards-mj9kw
      @JamesRichards-mj9kw Год назад +2

      India should have mutinied in 1939.

    • @King-ur7ev
      @King-ur7ev Год назад +3

      ​@@JamesRichards-mj9kwindians are weak people, only interested in eating chutneys

    • @JamesRichards-mj9kw
      @JamesRichards-mj9kw Год назад +3

      Ireland reunited with the UK on 1 January 1973.

    • @MarkHarrison733
      @MarkHarrison733 11 месяцев назад +2

      Ireland signed its sovereignty away to the EU.

    • @chucky2316
      @chucky2316 9 месяцев назад

      Wait until he learns when the first curry was served up 🤣

  • @RiversXXVII
    @RiversXXVII 5 лет назад +209

    De Valera responding to Churchill aka the oldest diss track ever recorded

  • @Jotari
    @Jotari 5 лет назад +154

    Absolutely beautiful speech. De Valera wasn't a perfect person, but everything he said here was fair, balanced, wise and respectful.

    • @GerryBolger
      @GerryBolger 4 года назад +14

      The Michael Collins movie has had such an impact on DeValera's public image. All of the big players during that tumultuous time in Irish history were so many shades of grey, not the black or white charachters we see in movies.

    • @Ricardo-mr3bg
      @Ricardo-mr3bg 3 года назад +12

      @@GerryBolger Agreed. I've watched the movie and my image of Dev was very negative until I discoverd this speech and many political moves he made. Had many faults, but many positive aspects as well. Specially on international stage. The movie gives him a bad name and probably fits in an agenda.

    • @paulofarrell8499
      @paulofarrell8499 3 года назад +3

      @@GerryBolger The move was a crock of shite.

    • @Minime163
      @Minime163 3 года назад +6

      @@GerryBolger in fairness I think the Michael Collins movie was made with an American audience in mind. None of the events of the war of independence and the subsequent civil war were taken really seriously in my view a bit giant leprechaun fighting the British with a sod of turf and a wise crack typical of the American depiction of the Irish Diddley die bit ironic when you look at my profile pic.

    • @mickeymousesdeformedbrothe9591
      @mickeymousesdeformedbrothe9591 2 года назад +1

      The thing about Irelands greatest hero’s during the 1916 rising (and up to the civil war) was that they were courageous, smart and willing to draw arms men but they were sometimes too strong minded. As in they had their own ideas and could be stubborn not really open to new ideas that go against their own. I suppose it’s good to have high self esteem during these times and develera is a perfect example but ultimately lived the longest

  • @octaviancaesarhibernicus4447
    @octaviancaesarhibernicus4447 7 лет назад +176

    Even Churchill admitted this was DeValera's finest speech.

    • @tonyclifton265
      @tonyclifton265 3 года назад +5

      there was mutual respect there and even friendliness - they had lunch together at 10 downing street afterwards

    • @ArchStantonify
      @ArchStantonify 3 года назад +1

      correct and correct

    • @thevillaaston7811
      @thevillaaston7811 3 года назад +6

      @@ArchStantonify
      Anyone care to check out what De Valera did on 2nd May 1945?..

    • @Minime163
      @Minime163 3 года назад

      @@tonyclifton265 I wonder what the meal was

    • @SPIDERM0OSE
      @SPIDERM0OSE 3 года назад +1

      Fuck Churchill, his opinion & admissions.

  • @tonyclifton265
    @tonyclifton265 3 года назад +69

    it's a masterpiece of political rhetoric, one of the best ever speeches

    • @hmq9052
      @hmq9052 Год назад +1

      It's a lot of nonsense. Total moral cowardice.

    • @jamesbarnett527
      @jamesbarnett527 Год назад

      @@hmq9052 Only Churchill fanboys think this. Churchills criticism of Ireland was hypocrisy at its worst. Especially knowing what that pos did to India

  • @darthvader5830
    @darthvader5830 5 лет назад +40

    Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam....
    Even though these were Pearse's words, Éamon used them and revived a language on the brink of extinction. I owe my greatest respect to him for his efforts on preserving our culture. Go raibh maith agat Dev.

    • @peadarocoileain902
      @peadarocoileain902 4 года назад +6

      No, they were actually the words of Thomas Davis, the Protestant Young Irelander from Mallow

    • @annoconnor2735
      @annoconnor2735 Год назад +3

      As I understand it Develera also saved the Manx language in the Isle of Mann. An elderly was the only living person there who could speak the Manx language. He organised a person to visit the lady and record the Manx language - otherwise it would have died out. May his soul rest in peace.

  • @nigefal
    @nigefal 6 лет назад +102

    He really packed a punch here. It was a very well thought speech. He even implied he would have told England to f**k off 25 years previously.
    No matter what people think of De Valera good or bad it was brilliant speech.

    • @nigelmurphy6761
      @nigelmurphy6761 5 лет назад +2

      absolutely. he didn't miss any chance to give england an absolutely good kicking here.

    • @hmq9052
      @hmq9052 Год назад +3

      @@nigelmurphy6761 I wonder if Ireland would be neutral if Putin invaded the UK

    • @henrysevern
      @henrysevern Год назад +1

      @@hmq9052 At the present time the Southern Irish Republic can hide behind England and get their defence from Putin’s Russia on the cheap and not contribute to the NATO Alliance.
      Some of the London Irish who had moved there to escape the potato famine in the previous century and assisted Ireland’s cause in 1920’s. We’re taken back by Ireland’s neutrality during the Second World war in allowing German U boats to operate in Irish waters to sink supply ships destined for London. Neutrality only works if all parties respect the neutrality, if not it doesn’t work, which can be seen by Sweden’s application to join NATO.
      Furthermore there was never a United Ireland, but separate Fiefdoms. The 6 counties in the North can stay out of the south if they wish or become part of the Republic if there is a border poll. De Valerie’s claim on the North is nothing more than a blatant territorial land grab, similar to any made by a Viking Chieftain or an English medieval king.

    • @henrysevern
      @henrysevern Год назад

      @@therealJohnDawes can you please explain your comment?

    • @JD-Media
      @JD-Media Год назад

      @@hmq9052 The EU would order them to act.

  • @zakirhusain4427
    @zakirhusain4427 Год назад +16

    De Valera on fire ! A cold but intense flame that destroyed Churchill's speech of 13th May. It takes a master to beat a great orator like Churchill.

    • @Johngall_
      @Johngall_ 4 месяца назад

      Very kind to call Churchill a “great orator”. Man was a degenerate, gambling addict, alcoholic who lived for War and Terror.

  • @joemccloskey4418
    @joemccloskey4418 8 лет назад +92

    God bless Ireland

    • @susannamarker2582
      @susannamarker2582 2 года назад +2

      Outside the EU, making its own laws and trading on its own terms.

  • @jimnolan84
    @jimnolan84 7 лет назад +57

    That's tellin' him, Dev!

  • @demonke7829
    @demonke7829 2 года назад +24

    De Valera was a divisive figure in Ireland due to the civil war but Dev was a patriot through and through of that there is no doubt

  • @seanmacuaiteir437
    @seanmacuaiteir437 8 лет назад +193

    this is the first time I've actually listened to dev. I admit I expected Alan Rickman.

    • @brucemacallan6831
      @brucemacallan6831 6 лет назад +2

      LOL.

    • @joemacgillivray8504
      @joemacgillivray8504 5 лет назад +2

      The Treaty is a film from 1991 that was based around the Anglo-Irish Treaty that gave Ireland independance, with the partition of the six counties of the north. Brendan Gleeson played the role of Michael Collins. The gentleman who played the role of Eamon deValera looked and sounded like this. At the end, all of the main characters were featured with a picture of them and the actors who played them, and a write-up of their careers afterwards. The picture of Dev and the actor who played them looked even more alike. The voices between the two were spot on.

    • @joemacgillivray8504
      @joemacgillivray8504 5 лет назад

      I even noticed Alan Rickman in the Michael Collins movie. It was quite the difference in voice.

    • @ciaran1659
      @ciaran1659 4 года назад +1

      I mean
      They are kind of similar

    • @Johnconno
      @Johnconno 3 года назад

      Ho...Ho...Ho.

  • @wolfiewilde7028
    @wolfiewilde7028 7 лет назад +101

    Incredible speech. As an Irishman, it's very emotional to listen to such a speech. De Valera more than put the entitled Churchill in his place and once again held our tiny nation in a very respectable and admirable light. It is a pity he was so insistent in his refusal to travel to London in 1921. Evidently he had no fear in going toe-to-toe with a formidable and highly-popular man like Churchill.

    • @coolguy1983
      @coolguy1983 5 лет назад +8

      Sorry, but Mr De Valera did what he did in 1921 in Irelands name. As head body (the chief) of Sinn Fein, if Mr De Valera had travelled to England a direct agreement would have been accepted by him. By saying he was indisposed and sending Griffith and Collins in his stead, he believed Lloyd George and Churchill would allow Collins to council with Sinn Fein back home and reach a mutual agreement. This however did not play out, as the mongering Churchill and George threatened Mother Ireland with OUTRIGHT WAR. I do not hold it against Collins for signing the Anglo-Irish Treaty, for his hand was forced. Though I do not blame Mr De Valera for standing for a Free and United Ireland, and certainly do not agree with the scurrilous accusations of him setting up Collins or Griffith to evade his own deathbed. How dare Irish people say that about a man who lost friends and family in the name of Irish freedom, HOW DARE THEY!

    • @breaddboy
      @breaddboy 4 года назад +13

      @@coolguy1983 sadly though deVelara was one of the main reasons why the civil war happened... A pointless conflict that saw Irish men murder eachother for no reason. Collins, Griffith and eeamon. Non had the foresight too see that their division would create a weaker Ireland making the 100+ years of North-south divide.
      I don't blame eeamon or Collins for disagreeing with eachother but to allow it to spiral that far was the ultimate disgrace to those who gave their life for independence.

    • @JamesRichards-mj9kw
      @JamesRichards-mj9kw 9 месяцев назад

      @@coolguy1983 Lloyd George was bluffing.

  • @fireblade211
    @fireblade211 8 лет назад +186

    I was never a fan of Dev, but this was his finest hour.

    • @AnCoilean
      @AnCoilean 8 лет назад

      Not the Housing Crusade speech

    • @pagongtagi6124
      @pagongtagi6124 8 лет назад +8

      +fireblade211 In my opinion, his finest hour was during the Easter rising.

    • @rolandhawken6628
      @rolandhawken6628 8 лет назад +3

      +fireblade211 Do you realise how funny or ironic your statement is ?

    • @dxhtz
      @dxhtz 8 лет назад +1

      +Roland Hawken..well spotted!. could have been just lucky.

    • @brrrrr12
      @brrrrr12 8 лет назад +5

      +Roland Hawken I'm a tad slow, what is ironic/funny about what he said?

  • @dpj1
    @dpj1 5 лет назад +70

    “If it wasn’t for the British, Ireland would be speaking German”...
    “if it wasn’t for the British, Ireland would be speaking Irish”

    • @markharrison2544
      @markharrison2544 5 лет назад +12

      Local languages were allowed in all countries under Axis control.

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 5 лет назад +3

      Irish protected Britain nice from the French 1815 and twice from the Germans and no thanks at all from the British ungrateful neighbours .

    • @youunculturedswine264
      @youunculturedswine264 4 года назад

      Robert Kelly yeah you’re right Britain were nothing without the potato farmers😂

    • @ccrino9525
      @ccrino9525 4 года назад +5

      If it wasn't for the russians we would all be speaking german. The greatest german casualties were inflicted on the eastern front by the russians. Had that front not taking so many resources and personnel then the germans would have tore through britain.

    • @peadarocoileain902
      @peadarocoileain902 4 года назад +2

      @@youunculturedswine264 Check out what Wellington said about his Irish RC troops and how went toee to toe with Napoleons finest troops at Waterloo.

  • @ado75
    @ado75 8 лет назад +93

    This is the first time I have heard the full speech. It is an excellent speech. I cannot think of a modern politician who would get across their point of view so eloquently. Churchill, understandably, made his comments in the flush of victory. As an Irishman I have long thought my country's neutrality in WWII was wrong. However, having listened to the speech I can understand Dev's stance just 20 years after partition. What many outsiders also don't realise is that Irish neutrality was very heavily biased toward the allies. We shared a lot of information on German air and shipping movements with GCHQ. Any allies who landed in Ireland were allowed return to the UK while all Germans were interned. Our fire service went to Belfast when it was heavily bombed etc etc. The other reality, of course, is that there were significant numbers of Old IRA still around at that time and they were essentially a fifth column who would have destabilised the Irish state with German assistance had we joined the allies. There were limited attempts to do so but our neutrality probably blunted any sentiment. In fact Dev interned many Old IRA activists for the duration of the war. I believe internal state security was a prime motive behind our neutrality.

    • @ShadowHunterGAME
      @ShadowHunterGAME 8 лет назад +6

      +ado75 Not to forget that about 9 IRA members (i think) were executed during the emergency. DeV did a good job in my opinion to keep our country neutral, he even resisted the temptation of being offered NI if we were to join the allies.

    • @susanalawrence6693
      @susanalawrence6693 8 лет назад +1

      +ShadowHunter wtf!

    • @johnlacey4027
      @johnlacey4027 4 года назад +4

      My dad was in the Irish army during the war. He was part of group that picked up German airmen who mostly dropped their bombs in the sea and headed for the nearest neutral county. They were not Nazis and planned their escape. Many stayed post war and married Irish girls.
      He told me that accionally a British plain would crash land. If they didn't want to stay dad would put them on a fishing boat to Wales or drop them near the NI boarder.
      He had a good war and made lots of friends both British & German.

    • @tomburnes6356
      @tomburnes6356 4 года назад

      So you would of went to war against the Germans during ww2, possible your head would be missing.

    • @peadarocoileain902
      @peadarocoileain902 4 года назад

      Pad said he made the speech in the full flush of brandy and champagne.

  • @jimmy-stourbridge-fc8980
    @jimmy-stourbridge-fc8980 3 года назад +56

    As an Englishman this is one of the greatest speeches I have heard.

  • @barrystan91
    @barrystan91 9 лет назад +51

    A speech of great integrity

  • @Johngall_
    @Johngall_ 4 месяца назад +3

    This speech should be taught in every history class in schools when covering Ireland’s role in WWII. Encapsulates our neutrality and the reality of the monster; Churchill’s aggression that was a constant in his life against the Irish people and others. His point on “imagine if Germany won WWI and then decided to occupy England for years, then years later offer a peace Treaty but still maintain occupation of 6 southern Counties by the shores”. I’d like every British imperialist to have a good think about that point. Dev. A true patriot. A bastion of democracy and truth. A Christian. A Gael. ☘️🇮🇪✝️

    • @MarkHarrison733
      @MarkHarrison733 2 месяца назад

      De Valera was a Portuguese Jew.
      There would not have been support for being part of Germany in any area of England.

  • @MacJaxonManOfAction
    @MacJaxonManOfAction 10 месяцев назад +5

    An precise and eloquent stab through the heart of British hypocrisy. Brilliant.

  • @johnprice7303
    @johnprice7303 4 года назад +35

    This is the first that I have heard this broadcast, and the tears are running down my cheeks. God bless that true Irish man.

    • @peadarocoileain902
      @peadarocoileain902 4 года назад +1

      @James Henderson What does that matter even if true.

    • @peadarocoileain902
      @peadarocoileain902 4 года назад +2

      @James Henderson His mother was as Irish as could be and all her immediate ancestors. He was about two years old when he was brought to Bruree. He was raised here for the most part, educated and lived almost ninety years of his life here. I am no major fan of his but to claim he was not Irish is a bit rich and if Disraeli could be one of GBs greatest PMs I cannot see what problem you seem to have with him possibly having Jewish antecedents. Unless you have some problem with Jewish people in general -well if that is the case, it is you that have a problem.

    • @peadarocoileain902
      @peadarocoileain902 4 года назад

      ​@James Henderson Well the idea of Nation Conservatism, a policy that has been followed by different leaders of the Tory Party right up to the present leader. It constitutes a relatively humane, if paternalistic approach to social policy, and was surely enlightened for its time

    • @jake3736
      @jake3736 3 года назад +7

      @@peadarocoileain902 it pisses me off as an Irish person who lived in America for 7 years when I was a teen when people say, someone who lived the majority of their life in Ireland isn't Irish because of some little "impurity" in their bloodline or experience. I even experienced this when I returned from America. People I didn't even know insisted I was American even when I told them I was born here and lived the majority of my life here. This was a shock to me because after living 2-3 years in America I was accepted as an American by basically everyone I would meet and I didn't even have a green card! It annoyed me at the time but now I've just embraced the fact I'll never be fully accepted as an Irish person but the sooner Irish people lose this purity mentality the better because its pathetic.

    • @peadarocoileain902
      @peadarocoileain902 3 года назад +1

      @@jake3736 Thanks for your reply. You are spot on about the purity nonsense.

  • @countycricklewood
    @countycricklewood 7 лет назад +41

    What a superbly worded and calmly spoken response. Particularly the reverse and take on 'We Stood Alone'

  • @thebomb78
    @thebomb78 5 лет назад +24

    Good man Dev! 🇮🇪

  • @rapier1954
    @rapier1954 6 лет назад +26

    Churchill hear this speech and later apologized for his outburst. This indeed was a reasoned and eloquent speech that laid out the case for Ireland's neutrality well. Ireland has always been a country when given the chance that wants to be left alone and not to entangle itself in the wars that had engulfed Europe.

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 5 лет назад +2

      Churchill did no such thing he never apologised for anything or any crimes.

  • @craftpaint1644
    @craftpaint1644 5 лет назад +30

    ". . . and if it be WW number 3" our ancestors are talking to us always.

    • @noahjohnson5312
      @noahjohnson5312 10 месяцев назад +1

      given that this was before Japan had even surrendered; this may be the first citing of the phrase "world war 3"

  • @nigelmurphy6761
    @nigelmurphy6761 5 лет назад +21

    great speech. very well balanced and fair.

  • @michaelmuldowney8
    @michaelmuldowney8 2 года назад +10

    “Dear Mr. Churchill - Ask me bollix”

  • @moboutmen
    @moboutmen 2 года назад +7

    A truly rare combination of politics and respect. Superb on all counts.

  • @mrcoconut1148
    @mrcoconut1148 Год назад +17

    Great speech. Dev was there through thick and thin, he is a wise man RIP

  • @red-tippedmatches6972
    @red-tippedmatches6972 26 дней назад

    What a beautiful orator. I must admit I find myself swayed by Mr. de Valera’s wise words. A stern, yet gentlemanly response to an everything but gentlemanly situation. Impressively worded jabs without being childish, as many spoken slaps tend to be. Simply perfect, then and now.

  • @jamesgough8481
    @jamesgough8481 Год назад +4

    God I wish we had leaders of such moral clarity today.

  • @jameshingley4300
    @jameshingley4300 9 лет назад +174

    A great speech (and im english) plus england/britain had no right in ireland full stop so im sorry for what happend to your great country

    • @BRUTUALTRUTH
      @BRUTUALTRUTH 7 лет назад +31

      You are a gentlmen

    • @looneyirish007
      @looneyirish007 6 лет назад +5

      if it wasn't for Britain, we wouldn't be where we are now, we are all Celtic. if we spoke Irish today , we wouldn't have what we have now. Dev in the Irish is a traitor to our nation. Dermot MacMurrough was the King of Leinster during the twelfth century and is most remembered as the man who invited the English into Ireland. Why do the Irish forget other countries invaded Ireland not by invitation!

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 6 лет назад +4

      Cruising the Waterways English were the worst the Normans and Vikings were more civil then the Anglo-Saxon.

    • @Jie67
      @Jie67 6 лет назад +3

      Cruising the Waterways did the other countries divide the land fir self gain? Britain was invited to help not to take over big difference

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 6 лет назад +3

      John 1888 Normans, not English were invited.

  • @jameshingley4300
    @jameshingley4300 7 лет назад +84

    im english but this is one of the greatest speeches ever made

    • @nmatthew7469
      @nmatthew7469 6 лет назад

      It's okay James Hingley, you want a speech, listen to this:
      ruclips.net/video/oPBooPu28QY/видео.html

    • @charlesfarish1082
      @charlesfarish1082 4 года назад

      Your a traitor then, as Eire was a Nazi appeaser

    • @clannagael293
      @clannagael293 4 года назад +3

      charles farish and?

    • @user-ys5yv2nz6w
      @user-ys5yv2nz6w 3 года назад +5

      @@charlesfarish1082 What about Britain during the dictatorship of Stalin, their old ally? After liberating Poland from one group of tyrannical cunts they let the Soviets walk in and do the exact same. Soviet appeasers and nothing less.

    • @danielcarthy9250
      @danielcarthy9250 3 года назад +4

      @@charlesfarish1082 u obviously have no idea if u think ireland was in anyway allies with the nazis, ireland was a biased nuetral country and not biased towards nazis as u would surely believe, ireland gave the allies weather reports and returned crashed pilots. And before you say that Dev sent condolences to Germany after hitlers death, that was the policy to Irelands neutrality they wouldve sent condolences to any leader that had died. So know ur stuff before u chat shit

  • @SiVlog1989
    @SiVlog1989 4 года назад +11

    Whereas Churchill went over the top with his criticism of de Valera, which brought about this response, de Valera gave a response that said words to the effect of, "what if the ball was on the other foot,"

  • @paddypravda839
    @paddypravda839 3 года назад +19

    I was visiting a relatives grave in Glasnevin Cemetery. I bought flowers on out them on Devs grave. There wasnt even a dead flower on it. He would be a better leader than any worm in Dáil Éireann today.

    • @darrenanthonybunreact1937
      @darrenanthonybunreact1937 Год назад

      An bunreact 1937 63 article
      èire is a sovereign independent democratic state,
      And I will die trying to rekindle her flame 🔥🇮🇪💚🇮🇪🔥
      My name is darren anthony and I'm a proud Irish national from the territory èiRe

  • @chrisodonoghue6619
    @chrisodonoghue6619 7 лет назад +32

    This is one of the best speeches I've heard. Fantastic 👏🏻

  • @williefinn4932
    @williefinn4932 8 лет назад +52

    probably, dev`s greatest moment. he had many faults, but he was well able to stand up to churchill.

    • @lovablesnowman
      @lovablesnowman 8 лет назад +8

      Without a doubt his greatest moment. Guy is still a terrible leader and will never be forgiven for setting Collins and Griffith up and then starting a civil war.

    • @janeos01
      @janeos01 8 лет назад +3

      +lovablesnowman He Did Not set up Collins and Griffiths and did not start a civil war

    • @maboroshi1986
      @maboroshi1986 8 лет назад +12

      the opposite, after the belfast blitz he filed a formal protest to berlin and made his "they are our people speech". after it the germans stopped bombing the north intentionally and in fact goebbels removed references to belfast from bombing records. if anything ireland was probably the only country to diplomatically tell the nazis to fuck off without firing a shot.

    • @taintabird23
      @taintabird23 7 лет назад +4

      lovablesnowman: terrible leader? A great leader, but a deeply flawed man...like all great leaders, in my opinion.

    • @shredder9536
      @shredder9536 5 лет назад +1

      @@conor5211 éamonn de Valera is a hated figure in Irish Republicanism. He accepted the free state and entered Leinster House which Republicans opposed. He hanged IRA men and let Republicans die on hunger strike. De Valera was a true republican up until 1926. Then he became just another free stater.

  • @Eireman1965
    @Eireman1965 Год назад +10

    First rate speech in every respect.

  • @cuqrious
    @cuqrious Год назад +6

    England did not stand alone. Millions of Australians, Canadians, Indians, Ghurkas, New Zealanders, South African and Africans and Islanders etc. fought and saved England.

    • @MarkHarrison733
      @MarkHarrison733 Год назад +3

      They made Europe Communist and Islamic.

    • @Neil-yg5gm
      @Neil-yg5gm 11 месяцев назад

      Nope. Not after the fall of France. Britain was alone with ireland stabbing them in the back.

    • @Colin_Power
      @Colin_Power 9 месяцев назад

      and a shit tonne of irish

    • @MarkHarrison733
      @MarkHarrison733 2 месяца назад

      @@Colin_Power Ireland supported Nazi Germany.

  • @jackmcnally9237
    @jackmcnally9237 4 года назад +17

    The Sun never set upon the British Empire, for God trusted no Englishman in the dark!

  • @ddrennon
    @ddrennon 2 года назад +3

    Extraordinary.

  • @charleskristiansson1296
    @charleskristiansson1296 Год назад +7

    Mr De Valera's speech was so eloquent and Eire was morally correct in maintaining her neutrality.

    • @theangrylizard1990
      @theangrylizard1990 Год назад

      Only a fucking Nazi would say neutrality was "moral" in a war against Germany at the time. You've shown your affiliations.

    • @JamesRichards-mj9kw
      @JamesRichards-mj9kw Год назад +3

      @@theangrylizard1990 World War II was not anti-fascist.

    • @theangrylizard1990
      @theangrylizard1990 Год назад +1

      @@JamesRichards-mj9kw Hmmm… all my years of education and reading about WWII says it was but… rando on RUclips says it wasn't. I guess I gotta ignore all that now that it's settled. Wow! My life has changed! Thanks, saviour! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

    • @briancarton1804
      @briancarton1804 Год назад +2

      @@theangrylizard1990 The anti fascist bit of the war was a by product of Britain and France looking out for their own interests by preventing Germany from acquiring an empire that could threaten their own empires.
      The British and French were no more moral than the Germans. The British and French committed genocide in their own empires before, during and after the war.
      There was dam all difference between Hitler and Churchill. Both were accomplished artists , both were published authors and both were imperialists, racists and war mongers.
      Yes fighting fascism was just a by product.

    • @theangrylizard1990
      @theangrylizard1990 Год назад

      @@briancarton1804 you need to try harder with your humour. If you really wanna sound like a parody of a brainless neo-Nazi on meth, you need to add more hyperbole and false equivalencies, plus at least two more outright falsehoods. Try harder, son.

  • @TT_1221
    @TT_1221 10 месяцев назад +5

    DeVelera was absolutely right! Churchill exposed his own contempt for other nations sovereignty just as Hitler did in that both had no regard for another peoples democratic sovereignty if it meant to further their own goals. Had Churchill acted against Ireland in WW2, then Churchill would and should have joined the defendants in the Nuremberg trials 1945.

    • @JamesRichards-mj9kw
      @JamesRichards-mj9kw 10 месяцев назад +2

      The Nuremberg Trials was a one-sided victors' justice, as Robert H. Jackson confirmed to Truman.
      The Allies violated Ireland's neutrality throughout World War II.

    • @MarkHarrison733
      @MarkHarrison733 2 месяца назад +1

      Only Germans were tried at Nuremberg.
      It was the Americans who wanted to invade Ireland in 1942. Churchill advised against it.

  • @keithkeegan9776
    @keithkeegan9776 5 лет назад +22

    Times we're hard he tried for his country. Hopefully one day Eire will be free and we have the whole of our country back. R.i.p 🇮🇪🇮🇪

    • @markharrison2544
      @markharrison2544 5 лет назад +5

      Yes we should leave the EU.

    • @peadarocoileain902
      @peadarocoileain902 4 года назад +3

      @@markharrison2544 If or when we do and I do not agree that we should, it will be our decision and it will not be rammed down our necks as it would have been, if we were still attached to GB

    • @donnachamcgowan
      @donnachamcgowan 4 года назад +1

      Republic of Ireland

  • @stephenmurphy2212
    @stephenmurphy2212 3 года назад +6

    If only we could get a ERB video with DeValera vs Churchill.

  • @jamesunsworth6865
    @jamesunsworth6865 4 года назад +18

    I am certainly no admirer of Eamon De Valera, but this rebuttal of Churchill’s speech , was the most Statesman like speech he ever made. He was, ( in my opinion) a very miss directed man who split the country, through not accepting the will of the Irish People, causing even more loss of life. But a Patriot, never the less.

    • @patrickdonnelly2489
      @patrickdonnelly2489 2 года назад

      James get your facts Right: Collins was the man 'Divided and Split the Country " The People sided with Dev when they Understood the Facts he won Majority after Majority in both General Elections and he won the Presidential Elections Twice the Maximum times he could Run. So much for the Democratic Will of the People. Brief yourself on an Accurate Account of Irish History.

    • @michaelcolllins6908
      @michaelcolllins6908 2 года назад

      @@patrickdonnelly2489 Dec caused division by starting the civil war I shouldn't have been shot

  • @rodmack5137
    @rodmack5137 7 лет назад +11

    I am british (London born) , my father is spanish & my mother english of irish decent , well said that , I believe that the true strength of whatever "empire" since the greeks or even more so the romans are , for reasons of control is to divide in divisions all people (Divedent, et vincet) , ie: women - men / poor - rich / patriots - non patriots / sports - one team or another / trends (fashion) religion / etc................and by doing such a thing created a battle , or should i say a breaking off unity within the population , which enables to create confusion & caos , thereby giving them power to decide on our parte , what they think is important for them & and not us , in other words political manipulation to gain whatever they may have.

    • @jackmcnally9237
      @jackmcnally9237 4 года назад +3

      The sun never set on the British Empire, for God never trusted any Englishman in the dark!

    • @jackmcnally9237
      @jackmcnally9237 4 года назад

      Please think folks!

    • @londoncalling151
      @londoncalling151 2 года назад

      @@jackmcnally9237 Beautiful! Thank you. (I was expecting the line from Joyce's Ulysses)

  • @drparnassus2867
    @drparnassus2867 6 лет назад +23

    3:44 Decent of him to pay tribute to Neville Chamberlain. The re-evaluation of Chamberlain that he's calling for never happened though, and not looking likely

    • @marks_sparks1
      @marks_sparks1 4 года назад +3

      Chamberlain, who actually prepared Britain for war (he approved the Spitfire manufacture) will never get a fair rep in history, because Churchill wrote the history with his memoirs.

    • @peadarocoileain902
      @peadarocoileain902 4 года назад +4

      @@marks_sparks1 As some Chinese dude said in recent-'it is too early to assess the success of the French Revolution'- or words to that effect

    • @marks_sparks1
      @marks_sparks1 3 года назад +1

      @@peadarocoileain902 that was Chinese premier Zhou En Lai who said that

    • @peadarocoileain902
      @peadarocoileain902 3 года назад +2

      @@marks_sparks1 Thanks

    • @morgant.dulaman8733
      @morgant.dulaman8733 2 года назад

      @@marks_sparks1 I'll admit his re-evaluation in pop-culture doesn't seem on the horizon. However, I have seen some like Peter Hitchens who are willing to give him a more charitable look than he's endured. Perhaps it will come, though it will only be as history progresses to the point where admitting his "appeasement" was a sad strategic necessity at the time will not be too politically inconvenient.

  • @ciaran6309
    @ciaran6309 2 года назад +14

    Devalera was loved like a god .my mother still remembers him coming around cork cities northside

  • @markharrison2544
    @markharrison2544 5 лет назад +29

    So glad we remained completely neutral throughout the war.

    • @chloebremner8334
      @chloebremner8334 3 года назад +6

      Were we though. Did we not send weather forecasts to the allies and did we not send men up to Belfast to help clear the destruction after the Belfast Blitz

    • @martinafitzgerald6995
      @martinafitzgerald6995 Год назад +2

      We put any German pilot who crashed in Ireland into the Curragh camp. Prisoners of war, we did not let them return home until after the war had ended. But then German u-boats would surface, it is alleged and by mackerel from fishermen off the South coast of Ireland. A bit tricky as fishing nets and submarines are a disaster ! So maybe this is just propaganda..

  • @exoplanet11
    @exoplanet11 6 лет назад +9

    Hard to argue with that argument.

  • @Eddie71529
    @Eddie71529 9 лет назад +67

    Best political address ever.

    • @moboutmen
      @moboutmen 2 года назад

      This performance belongs in any speech giving class ever given.

  • @jordanrogersen4832
    @jordanrogersen4832 9 лет назад +13

    Irishmen weren't neutral in both world wars. Hundreds of thousands fought for the freedom of Europe and the world .I have got Irish ancestors who fought and, three brothers from UK ( my great great Uncles), who's parents were Irish who fought as Americans n one died and they are celebrated in stained glass in my towns Library with their names there. Why I'm proud of UK aswell as US n Ireland. Of course my family always have wanted Ireland independence n unity, but not by killing anyone. My great great grandparents saw enough killing BY OTHER Irish in them days , so no more and Thank God ,it's peace in that beautiful island.

    • @jstylezPictures
      @jstylezPictures 8 лет назад

      well john are the Zionists in Israel doing anything different to the Palestinians, p.s I don't agree with the insinuation that my comment was a reference to having extermination camps anywhere, and if that's the first thing you thought then that's messed up?

    • @danielkennedy6885
      @danielkennedy6885 7 лет назад +2

      They didn't fight for the freedom of Europe they fought for money and also we were under a bigger threat of invasion from england than we were from Germany

    • @TheConorhannan
      @TheConorhannan 7 лет назад

      jstylezPictures nah hitler had thoughts of invading Ireland as he knew that they were not really neutral. He may off put Eoin O'duffy in charge. Which is interesting and I suggest to look up on it long story short he tried to march into dublin to take power like Mussolini in 1933

    • @danbreen6946
      @danbreen6946 4 года назад

      @Liam C absolutely correct Liam

    • @peadarocoileain902
      @peadarocoileain902 4 года назад

      Jorden. When you get a chance you might look at a speech by Dr Robert Ambrose MP in the HOC on the 24th Feb 1902.. it highlights comments made by prominent British Politicians right through the Nineteenth Century. In it these men point out that any change in Ireland in that Century was conceded by them only under the threat of violence by the Irish and to a man they state that any of these changes would not and indeed should not have been conceded otherwise. O'Connell by contrast was shown in 1843 how far you would get with a democratic mandate, as we also saw of with 1918 GE result
      I agree it is great to see relations better now and peace in the island.

  • @arranquick2162
    @arranquick2162 5 лет назад +18

    WELL SAID SO ARTICULATE PRESENTED TO A WARMONGER CHURCHILL

  • @elenafoleyfoley168
    @elenafoleyfoley168 Год назад +2

    Heartfelt speech 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @TFitz-nr1fn
    @TFitz-nr1fn 2 года назад +8

    Dev put a lot into this. It's riddled with references only Irish would understand.

  • @paulcronin3626
    @paulcronin3626 Год назад +5

    His finest hour.

  • @stacyblue1980
    @stacyblue1980 10 месяцев назад +1

    As an American of patriotic Irish and Patriotic American families, I must say.. I grew up with no admiration nor respect for Churchill. But...let us put old feelings aside...It is interesting to hear the voice of De Valera. Both men are questionable. But this is a unique thing to find here. GOD BLESS IRELAND . 🇮🇪

  • @andrewg.carvill4596
    @andrewg.carvill4596 4 месяца назад

    "It is indeed hard for the strong to be just to the weak; but acting justly always has its rewards"

  • @ouww88
    @ouww88 6 лет назад +19

    That's why i like RUclips, one can find such things :D

  • @markharrison2544
    @markharrison2544 6 лет назад +26

    Joining the Allies would have caused a second civil war.

    • @marks_sparks1
      @marks_sparks1 5 лет назад +13

      And bankrupted us

    • @charliecollins1993
      @charliecollins1993 4 года назад +1

      What. A load of crap

    • @benitolonard4441
      @benitolonard4441 4 года назад +7

      @@johnalbent What did Britain do for the oppressed peoples of Eastern Europe after it allowed another murderous dictator have it all? Why no declaration of war on the Soviets afterall Britain declared war on Germany for invading Poland?

    • @benitolonard4441
      @benitolonard4441 4 года назад +4

      @@johnalbent Nothing like 50 years of oppression so. By the way nobody won the Cold War.

    • @benitolonard4441
      @benitolonard4441 4 года назад +2

      @@johnalbent Aw bless.

  • @jamesforrester9776
    @jamesforrester9776 7 лет назад +21

    Brilliant response

  • @carolineking7435
    @carolineking7435 5 лет назад +13

    Eloquent with powerful words.

  • @aislingirish4503
    @aislingirish4503 Год назад +5

    Imagine eamonn seen ireland now so sad 😞

    • @ClannCholmain
      @ClannCholmain Год назад

      😂
      Which part had you in mind?

    • @aislingirish4503
      @aislingirish4503 Год назад +3

      @@ClannCholmain all of it!

    • @ClannCholmain
      @ClannCholmain Год назад

      @@aislingirish4503 well I went for a drive to Bantry today just gone in my electric car and the seafood and service was excellent.
      If you take the direct road from Kilgarvan, it’s spectacular and the surface of the road was also in a very good condition.
      I turned off because the traffic was constant into Kenmare via the main Cork - Killarney road.
      What was wrong with that?

    • @aislingirish4503
      @aislingirish4503 Год назад

      @@ClannCholmain glad you enjoyed that love some seafood and scenery long may u enjoy that

  • @jimmcaleenan7243
    @jimmcaleenan7243 2 года назад +7

    Churchill has Irish blood on his hands

  • @goyhlandstar
    @goyhlandstar Год назад

    RESPECT. Huge Respect on her.

  • @paddygracey3217
    @paddygracey3217 8 лет назад +27

    like him or not,,i think that dev outfoxed him,,one of the best political speechs ever

    • @longfordboy2538
      @longfordboy2538 6 лет назад +2

      He outfoxed him and all the brave Allied war dead , Jews, Poles, Slovaks' and on and on DeValera made his whole country to be considered forever cowardly. Did he really think Germany would have treated Ireland well if he won. What an extraordinarily petty man. A man totally lacking in vision He didn't want to join a European war but sure as hell would have loved the EU which will eventually "outfox" the DeValeras of the world

    • @Jie67
      @Jie67 6 лет назад +4

      Longfordboy nah whats cowardly is shooting your allies on the beaches of dunkirk cause you dont want them taking your spot on the evac boats.

    • @londoncalling151
      @londoncalling151 2 года назад +3

      @@longfordboy2538 My aunt lived in Longford, I visited often. This sort of filth is typical of your ilk.

  • @ivanmcaleese6388
    @ivanmcaleese6388 5 лет назад +29

    That speech put the cigar chewing sow in his place. The sow had some neck,expecting help from a country he invaded!

    • @writerjames8284
      @writerjames8284 5 лет назад +16

      I am a Englishman but I totally agree with you Churchill was a racist cunt. I have always believed in a united Ireland .

    • @conlaiarla
      @conlaiarla 5 лет назад +2

      Yes ...it's totally illogical.

    • @cormacthelyon5082
      @cormacthelyon5082 3 года назад +1

      @@writerjames8284 I am an Irish man and I want a united Ireland but the Irish government does not want northen ireland due to the fact it holds no economic value same with uk they don't want it anymore but neither side can say they don't want it and northen iteland can't be independent because not strong enough

    • @cormacthelyon5082
      @cormacthelyon5082 3 года назад +1

      So its very complicated for the politicians

  • @cianw2942
    @cianw2942 5 лет назад +17

    Inspirational 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

  • @christopherocallaghan2257
    @christopherocallaghan2257 Год назад

    It’s no Alan Rickmansworth, but what sort of comment did you think you were making 7 years ago, a beautiful and thoughtful reply is what you should have said, what’s Alan rickman got to do with Irish history?

  • @conorgraafpietermaritzburg3720
    @conorgraafpietermaritzburg3720 Год назад +3

    A true statesman

  • @alanomainnin4789
    @alanomainnin4789 3 года назад +5

    6 mins 9 seconds in , that's the stuff ,

  • @susannamarker2582
    @susannamarker2582 3 года назад +14

    My mother used to say that the wrong man got the bullet. Collins would have been better for Ireland economically. Better for jobs. By 1950, Ireland was going nowhere.

    • @morgant.dulaman8733
      @morgant.dulaman8733 2 года назад +2

      Collins was probably the closest modern Ireland has ever gotten to a second Brian Boru. That being said, de Valera probably did the best a man could hope to do in keeping Ireland out of the war.

    • @susannamarker2582
      @susannamarker2582 2 года назад

      @@morgant.dulaman8733 Yes, but if at the same time, Ireland has no jobs (which it did not) then the same irishmen whom Dev wanted to keep out of the war will just go and join the british army (which they did).

    • @londoncalling151
      @londoncalling151 2 года назад

      With a name like Susanna Marker, it couldn't have been otherwise. Filth.

    • @susannamarker2582
      @susannamarker2582 2 года назад +1

      @@londoncalling151 Debate properly, or get off the post. At least I use my real name, unlike you.

    • @londoncalling151
      @londoncalling151 2 года назад

      @@susannamarker2582 Go home.

  • @MarkHarrison733
    @MarkHarrison733 8 месяцев назад +2

    The United States and the British Empire were on the wrong side in both world wars.

  • @bonobobob
    @bonobobob Год назад +2

    Up Dev!

  • @finnredmond3192
    @finnredmond3192 3 года назад +4

    Churchill said it was Dé Valeras finest hour

    • @finnredmond3192
      @finnredmond3192 3 года назад

      @James Henderson when he addressed it, I saw it on a documentary about it

    • @finnredmond3192
      @finnredmond3192 3 года назад

      @James Henderson alot of Irish people went and fought in world war 2 any way, Churchill offered de Valera the six countries back to join the war but he refused it which in hindsight was a mistake. Churchill said he was a coward and even suggested invading Ireland again and after this response he said that his response was his finest hour and that was the end of it

    • @finnredmond3192
      @finnredmond3192 3 года назад

      @James Henderson what?

    • @finnredmond3192
      @finnredmond3192 3 года назад

      @James Henderson They played their part in defeating Hitler.
      But they got no thanks for it when they came home. It's a disgraceful and shameful part of recent Irish history. It shows how small minded and inward looking Ireland was at the time.

    • @Johnnyfive55
      @Johnnyfive55 2 года назад +1

      @@finnredmond3192 Ireland was promised home rule before the first World War. Never trust a Tory was a saying that started in Ireland around that time - A saying as true today as it was a hundred years ago with the carryon of Frost and Johnson. How could Dev trust anything that came out of Churchills mouth - remember Churchill had alot of irish blood on his hands at this point, now he was crying for help.

  • @Jim54_
    @Jim54_ 4 года назад +10

    Say what you want about Eamon De Valera, but he rejected the democratic will of the people when it came to the Anglo Irish Treaty. He oversaw a Civil War that killed more Irish people than the war of Independence, and led to the assassination of Michael Collins, the man the Irish had elected to be their leader. For that reason I am not surprised that he has been given the appropriate title of Ireland’s hated hero. He was truly as disgrace

    • @barryb90
      @barryb90 3 года назад +6

      That's incredibly debatable. Revised history and hindsight doesn't do him any justice and it doesn't reflect the feeling of the country at the time. A lot of people blamed Collins for the civil war too for firing on the four courts and doing Churchill's dirty work. Both of them screwed up, both of them were right and wrong.

    • @gertbonk7075
      @gertbonk7075 3 года назад

      Ah so America should have let the British keep New England, according to you.

    • @patrickdonnelly2489
      @patrickdonnelly2489 2 года назад

      Collins caused the civil war after selling out our country jim 54 learn your history

    • @Jim54_
      @Jim54_ 2 года назад +1

      @@patrickdonnelly2489 yeah, that’s why we are currently part of the UK. Oh wait!

    • @patrickdonnelly2489
      @patrickdonnelly2489 2 года назад

      Ye (6 of our Counties) that Collins gave away. He was a Liability. Just Brief yourself Only for DEV you'd be kneeling down to her Majesty .Maybe that's what you want. But 62% of the Irish people didn't. Brief yourself, Brief yourself . Slain go foil.

  • @johnfinbarr1160
    @johnfinbarr1160 Месяц назад +1

    Dev’s finest hour. Ar dheis lámh Dé go raibh a anam.

  • @user-yu6pw6dk9p
    @user-yu6pw6dk9p 5 месяцев назад +1

    Way to go Dev.Greatest Irishman of the 20th century

  • @princepis
    @princepis 8 лет назад +29

    Churchill got rekt

  • @paddyt4043
    @paddyt4043 3 года назад +13

    What a great call.. Hard judgement to make, shows his great leadership...
    LOL trust Churchill after that bollox sent the black and tans over here
    No way

  • @ASiempre
    @ASiempre 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great speech from this Spanish origin president.

  • @martinkelly9763
    @martinkelly9763 9 месяцев назад +1

    ... I'm not by any stretch a Dev fan but Collins could never be as cunning.

  • @exteriority
    @exteriority  9 лет назад +49

    Churchill's criticism of Eamon de Valera and Irish neutrality, 1945

    • @Jotari
      @Jotari 5 лет назад +4

      Is there any known text or recording of Churchill's futher response to this speech?

    • @conlaiarla
      @conlaiarla 5 лет назад +12

      @@Jotari Churchill made no response. He later said it was De Valera's finest hour . He had wrong footed himself and had the good sense to stop digging himself into a deeper hole.

    • @markharrison2544
      @markharrison2544 5 лет назад +6

      @@conlaiarla Wikipedia says there was a series of radio exchanges.

    • @danbreen6946
      @danbreen6946 4 года назад +1

      @James Henderson arshole

    • @williampatrickfagan7590
      @williampatrickfagan7590 3 года назад

      @@conlaiarla
      As they say in Ireland,
      When you are in hole, dig up, Not down.

  • @Kitiwake
    @Kitiwake 4 года назад +8

    The emergency... When dev redeemed himself.

  • @ewgenylok2506
    @ewgenylok2506 Год назад +2

    A brilliant speech for sure. As for us Ukranians there are many compelling parallels with the Irish history, I cannot help though but draw another parallel, that of Irland's neutrality in the face of Nazi Germany and the false neutrality of today's " Putinversteher" campaigning in Ruzzia's favour. Mixed feelings on that behalf and the remaining questions of weather neutrality is moral in the face of absolute evil after all.

    • @MarkHarrison733
      @MarkHarrison733 Год назад +3

      Ukraine was part of the Axis.

    • @ewgenylok2506
      @ewgenylok2506 Год назад

      @@MarkHarrison733In the case that you are not a ruzzian troll but uphold this bull shit of statement as your real view of historical events during WWII, I find it quite remarkable, how in our time of universal availability of information barefaced ignorance can flourish so shamelessly.

    • @conlaiarla
      @conlaiarla Год назад +1

      I can't agree . If we shelled the North East of Ireland if we were united ? A region where the people are British, for years deny them their rights , and massacre civilians and after all that be surprised when the British retaliate after we failed to implement a peace accord guaranteed by France and Germany? We are fed a narrative and a wholly propagandist one at that .

    • @JamesRichards-mj9kw
      @JamesRichards-mj9kw Год назад +3

      @@ewgenylok2506 Ukrainians killed more than a million Jews during Barbarossa.

    • @MarkHarrison733
      @MarkHarrison733 2 месяца назад

      @@ewgenylok2506 Ukraine is still a fascist neo-Nazi country to this day.

  • @tonyclifton265
    @tonyclifton265 2 года назад

    sample it and use it as a trash-talk intro to a hip-hop track

  • @robertsnopkiewicz3667
    @robertsnopkiewicz3667 6 лет назад +10

    Poland and Polish soldiers and common people never stopped during 2 WW fight against German Nazi bandits .Poland with Polish Government in London was fighting in the same time also against Soviet barbarian Red Army - against Gestapo and their ally NKWD. The UK, Churchill sold Poland to Soviets in thanks for Polish soldiers blood in battle for London and other places of the Western and Eastern front.

    • @arranquick2162
      @arranquick2162 5 лет назад

      BUT THEY MURDERED THOUSANDS JEWS ALONGSIDE GERMANS

    • @KniazJarema2137
      @KniazJarema2137 4 года назад

      @@arranquick2162 excuse me? Where? When?

  • @Jie67
    @Jie67 6 лет назад +6

    Bitter for many better for the world, now we know why he sent Collins to the talks.

  • @carolinebyrne4995
    @carolinebyrne4995 2 года назад +1

    ALL YOU EVER DID WAS TO CARRY ON WHERE THE ENGLISH LEFT OF

  • @imedi
    @imedi 8 лет назад +21

    i dont have a problem with dev keeping ireland out of the war...with no airforce or navy to protect itself it would have been suicide for any nation in that position to enter a world war..
    however his treatment of thousands former irish soldiers who went awol to fight for the allies was shameful and vindictive

    • @danielkennedy6885
      @danielkennedy6885 7 лет назад +7

      At that time they were the occupiers of our country not our allies

    • @imedi
      @imedi 7 лет назад +7

      daniel kennedy the nazis at that stage were seen as the enemies to freedom worldwide not just the UK but USA Canada and so on hence those Irish troops who left to fight them were on the side of good..
      Dev should a recgonised this after the war especially after it was beyond doubt what the Nazis were at..
      His treatment of those men after they returned was wrong

    • @primo2296
      @primo2296 6 лет назад

      imedi Actually Ireland had a fairly moderate air force at the time with 8 Hurricanes and 8 Spitfires (Or something along those numbers) which for the time was as modern as it got. Now obviously germany had many more aircraft but only their bombers could make it as far as Ireland. and an Air force of that size is extremely capable of bomber interception. Not to mention had we joined the war we most likely would have lend leased even more spitfires and hurricanes

  • @That_Random_Bloke
    @That_Random_Bloke 5 лет назад +13

    Impressive speech. More impressive than signing a condolence book in the German embassy

    • @howardgootkin4216
      @howardgootkin4216 Год назад

      Upon the occasion of Hitler’s suicide at the time that journalists were broadcasting the first reports of the extermination camps

    • @bcent5758
      @bcent5758 Год назад

      If the timing is as you said, what on earth was he thinking?

    • @theeaskey
      @theeaskey Год назад

      We were not partaking in WW2, signing the book was the diplomatic thing to do , in my eyes Churchill was a war criminal long before hitler, he was responsible for sending the tans over to kill and destroy. Before you comment please read Irish history..

  • @MarkHarrison733
    @MarkHarrison733 Год назад +4

    Ireland should have joined the Axis in 1939.

    • @MarkHarrison733
      @MarkHarrison733 Год назад

      @F. Murphy If the anti-Communist side had won World War II then Europe would still matter.

    • @MarkHarrison733
      @MarkHarrison733 Год назад

      @F. Murphy See why Churchill openly supported Mussolini and Italian fascism, and backed Franco's uprising in 1936.

    • @MarkHarrison733
      @MarkHarrison733 Год назад

      @F. Murphy The Axis was the good side.

    • @MarkHarrison733
      @MarkHarrison733 Год назад

      @F. Murphy Sebastian Haffner is correct regarding Hitler's role in decolonisation. Germany was zero threat, unlike Communism.

    • @MarkHarrison733
      @MarkHarrison733 Год назад

      @F. Murphy See why the Irish fought for Franco.

  • @gray3553
    @gray3553 5 лет назад +3

    Didn't this man allow his neutral country harbour German U Boats during the war and don't he send his condolences to the German high commission on hearing the news of Hitlers death ??

    • @markharrison2544
      @markharrison2544 5 лет назад +1

      No.

    • @taintabird23
      @taintabird23 4 года назад +1

      No, German U-boats did not refuel in Ireland, but he give in his personal condolences to the German legate in Dublin.

  • @markharrison2544
    @markharrison2544 5 лет назад +4

    Northern Ireland should have been neutral too.

    • @johnhorgan6045
      @johnhorgan6045 4 года назад +2

      Mark Harrison no conscription in Northern Ireland Volunteers One and all

    • @chloebremner8334
      @chloebremner8334 3 года назад

      Northern was part of the commonwealth and James Craig said himself that this was the unionists chance to express their loyalty

  • @JamesHenderson-wk4hd
    @JamesHenderson-wk4hd Год назад +4

    Ireland should have liberated Northern Ireland in 1940.

    • @thesuddendemise7735
      @thesuddendemise7735 Год назад

      And immediately trigger a civil war as a result

    • @JamesRichards-mj9kw
      @JamesRichards-mj9kw Год назад

      @@thesuddendemise7735 So?

    • @thesuddendemise7735
      @thesuddendemise7735 Год назад

      @@JamesRichards-mj9kw The point is “liberating” Northern Ireland is a fucking stupid idea especially without their consent.

    • @JamesRichards-mj9kw
      @JamesRichards-mj9kw Год назад

      @@thesuddendemise7735 Why?

    • @MarkHarrison733
      @MarkHarrison733 2 месяца назад

      @@thesuddendemise7735 It should have happened in 1922.

  • @paudsmcmack3117
    @paudsmcmack3117 Год назад +2

    Well said Dev, however ya still shouldnt of sent condolences to Mr. Hitler....Bad mark there boy

    • @ClannCholmain
      @ClannCholmain Год назад +4

      Yes of course, it was bad judgment, but you could say the same thing about Churchill and his contribution to the 35 million who also died in India from British man-made famines.
      Did it upset you as just as much when you first found out that Britain and the United States offered condolences for Stalin?
      The context of the time was when Ireland was still being in recovery from the cumulative consequences of the economic war, the civil war, the war of independence, the land wars, the tithe war, all while the Irish government continuing to pay the British government huge sums for land annuities after independence.
      On the other hand, the Blueshirts, an Irish Fascist group, were declared an illegal organisation by De Valera in 1933, they were founded in 1932.
      Eoin O'Duffy the leader the Blueshirts, assembled an Irish brigade, when to Spain to aid the Fascist coup led by General Franco in 1934, was sent home for its incompetence and drunkenness.
      That’s the short history of fascism in Ireland.
      Thankfully.

    • @paudsmcmack3117
      @paudsmcmack3117 Год назад

      @John Coleman 1 million and 1 thousand percent! Johnny Coleman...Gallipoli! What a wankstain

  • @JamesRichards-mj9kw
    @JamesRichards-mj9kw 10 месяцев назад +3

    Ireland was committed by the King's declaration of war on 3 September 1939.
    The 1937 constitution had not made clear whether or not Ireland was a republic.

    • @marks_sparks1
      @marks_sparks1 8 месяцев назад

      Incorrect. Ireland was made a Dominion under the 1921 Anglo-Irish Treaty and the 1931 Statute of Westminster gave the legal right to Dominions to decide whether they enter war with Great Britain or abstain. The King couldn't compel Ireland into war as all mention of him had been omitted from the 1937 Constitution and his influence removed by the External Relations Act.

    • @MarkHarrison733
      @MarkHarrison733 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@marks_sparks1 Ireland was legally at war in 1939-45, as Churchill confirmed.
      George VI was Head of State until 18 April 1949.

    • @JamesRichards-mj9kw
      @JamesRichards-mj9kw 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@marks_sparks1 Ireland was not officially a republic until 1949.

    • @marks_sparks1
      @marks_sparks1 3 месяца назад

      ​@@MarkHarrison733 Churchill said a lot of things in WW2 which have been proven to be untrue. The 1931 Statute of Westminster gave power to the Dominions to decide on whether to go to war alongside Britain. Churchill knew that. He couldn't compel Ireland into war.

    • @MarkHarrison733
      @MarkHarrison733 2 месяца назад +1

      @@marks_sparks1 Ireland was not a Dominion.