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- (14 Sep 1975) Movietone record the 'Lying-in-State' and funeral of ex-President Eamon de Valera. ® De Valera is a name that will be forever linked with the emergence of the Irish Republic. ® The people of Ireland paid their last respects as the body of their ex-leader lay in St. Patrick's Hall. A Requiem Mass was celebrated in Dublin's Pro-Cathedral and then the coffin was bourne on a gun carriage to its final resting place, GLASNEVIN CEMETERY.
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Remarkable how this English Movietone commentator was much more generous to Dev's memory at the time of his death, than most Irish commentators are to his memory nowadays.
It is sad, some people who don’t know shite about Irish history just sum it up as “ he killed Collins” but he was such an icon, we would still be the free state if it wasn’t for him
@@fitzer1881 i would take saorstát ireland any Day. Over this national socialist covid hell Ireland has become ,
@@cultusgti thank god your not making choices for the nation then!
I think the commentator is American.
True.
Collins was dead 53 years when Dev died....Crazy....
F*** Devalera he sold out Michael Collins
My irish relatives often say that the wrong man got the bullet.
bit late but right
@@susannamarker2582
he was of his time. massive personality in irish life...hated and loved.
+Willie Finn Michael Collins was the better man.
+Robert Kelly Wtf!
Willie Finned you
@@RobertK1993 no way. One of the few taioseach who voted in by majority .Backed by vast majority of ira volunteers during civil war .
A complex figure. He created the 1937 Constitution, that removed references to the King from the Constitution and ensured it could only be changed by referendum. The Constitution has been criticised for including Church teachings like banning divorce and refereing to women's place in the home. But the provisions allowing for referendums to amend it allowed divorce to be legalised in 1995, and for progressive measures like marriage-equality to be introduced. The constitutional ban on abortion didnt happen until 1983, 8 years after he died, though the legislative ban dated to the 1860s Offences against the Person Act. The Constitution included a territorial claim on Northern Ireland, which was bargained away in the Good Friday Agreement that brought peace to Northern Ireland.
He achieved the return of the Treaty Ports and even before 1937 the abolition of the hated Oath of Allegiance for TDs and senators and the abolition of the Governor Genersl. He managed to end the repayment of the Land Annuities, whereby Ireland had to repay loans to Britain that the latter had granted to Irish farmers to buy out the big landlords in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Many felt that it was wrong we should have had to repay these loans, give the lands concerned had been stolen by Cromwell and other British and English rulers like Elizabeth, James I and William III and given to their cronies. Without the return of the Treaty Ports, Irish neutrality in WW2 and since would have been impossible. He deserves credit for this.
While his stated aim of restoring Irish as the spoken language failed in his lifetime, the state supports he introduced also ensured it would survive.
For me the negatives include excessive deference to the Catholic bishops, the isolationist and protectionist economic policy, the continuation of the Magdalene launderies and Industrial Schools where women and children were incarcerated often for no reason other than being poor or in women's case for not conforming to society's then conservative gender stereotypes, such as being single mothers. The decline of the Churchs political power is largely the result of the horror stories by victims of these institutions which gets blanket coverage in the Irish media (as it should).
Great summationn of his life. His revolutionary and political achievements in his younger life often get overlooked.
Is it not true though that he sent condolences on the death of Hitler at a time when the full horror of Auschwitz was known? Surely that's a stain?
@@jamesbovington8218 no that was before that stuff came out.
James Bovington Auschwitz? Are you aware that there was recreational facilities for the prisoners of war at Auschwitz? There was a cinema, there was an orchestra. There was a swimming pool with Diving boards. There was camp money rewards for work done. There was letters which the prisoners received from their loved ones. Compare these to the Soviet Union Gulags? They were real Death camps. The prisoners were pretty much worked to death under Stalin.
a balanced and fair assessment The first British ambassador appointed in 1939 paid him the highest of compliments " he was not Irish" he wrote to his masters. And took a cool transactional view on relations. The British disliked him but respected his cold austere approach. They always expected a hot tempered Irishman. Instead they got a Jesuit like man of few words and even less emotion.
How weird is it, that most most hardened Irish republican, was a man not born in Ireland, but in New York, and did not have an Irish surname, but a Spanish one.
"The most hardened"... Try "The most egocentric and least pragmatic". He kept speaking "on behalf of the people of Ireland", and yet when they spoke he wouldn't listen.
It's a shame history hasn't condamned him. If only Mick had lived...
@@lucagabbi3241 I agree, I am no fan of Dev. I am British, proud of it - but after reading about Michael Collins for my history degree many years ago, and of course seeing the superb Michael Collins movie - I feel more respect for him. Michael Collins may have been a hard nose Cork man, who did use brutal methods in the War of Independence, but who could blame him after what we British did to the Irish. However when the Treaty came about in 1922, he was far more pragmatic and stable in his politics than Dev. Am I right?
@@lucagabbi3241 wake up.vast majority of irish republician volunteers backed Devalera.created fianna fail. his governments created thousands of strongly built homes for poor people in inner cities.created and nationalised big irish institutions. Like bord na mona .iaronroid eireann.
@@johnking5174 but the volunteers disagreed with collins.majority of the fighting men were on Devs side
Had an Irish mother.. Reared by his Irish grandparents in county Clare. Done 2 tours of the US to fund and arm the volunteers and help the new state which would emerge
You either die a hero (Collins), or live long enough to see yourself become the villain (De Valera).......
The most cunning and intelligent politician of the XX Century. He restored Irish Independence 700 years after an Iron Fist oppression of the British.
Nowadays he is questioned by "know-nothings" in Ireland.
I went to glasneven cementry yesterday u were a legend Ramon RIP
+Katie Cullen Who is Ramon? :)
+Sanchordia eamon
+Katie Cullen RIP Ramon, we'll never forget you
Bloody Ramon's what did they ever do for Ireland
It would be great if people could judge DeValera on his life and achievements rather than just his portrayl in the 1996 film Michael Collins... just saying
You mean when he went crying with tears in his eyes to the German embassy to sign the condolence book and share his sadness over Hitler's death? And then when he denied the Holocaust as "anti-national propaganda"?
De Valera was a psychotic terrorist who thought genocide and its perpetrators were cool.
not sure about De Valera-fascinating character but mixed history-sentenced hunger strikers to death--gave Michael Collins an impossible task-Collins was a military man with no negotiating skills-was duped by Churchill-My parents met de Valera-he was almost blind but commented on my mother's red dress
Red rag to the old bull (tarabh) , I believe in the erse .
The stuff he lived through though 🤯
He played a huge part in gaining Ireland's independence from Britain, stood up to Churchill to affirm Ireland's neutrality during the second World War. Having done this he then marched his people and country into a proverbial cave. It took almost 80 years for Ireland to emerge from that cave.
River Mist thank you for speaking the truth. Instead of all these people calling him a traitor
Aye took the country from the Brits and handed it to the Church
and then Vradkar handed it over to the EU/World Economic Forum/corporate/woke sociopaths to pick at its pitiful corpse
He was of the generation that won Irish Freedom after centuries of being under the British boot heel. According to the nurse attending him, DeValera's last words were, "All my life I've done my best for Ireland, now I'm ready to go."
@Anthony Nesbitt How old are you? 12?
Ready to go to hell.
@Fook Yu What would you know about "right-minded" LOL
He won nothing, he gave away the 6 counties and made Collins his scapegoat
@@nostalgia815 He did a lot more for Ireland than you ever will. Sit down.
LONG LIVE EAMON R.I.P.
He was a horrible twisted bastard that lived 54 years too long
To be honest - apart from his erroneous views on economics, if he suddenly appeared today, I'd vote for him.
A controversial figure but nonetheless didn't create Bengal famine which killed half of my grandfather's family.
Churchill's monstrosity is underrated
Wait im lost what does he have to do with this?
For those that absolutely despised De Valera's legacy (not a particular fan or hardened critic of The Long Fella myself), I shudder to think what Leo Vradkar's legacy will be like in half a century if this little island nation of ours is still above water.
Bastard died during school holidays so no day off
God Bless De Valera Sean McEntee.
Why is this movie footage part of british movietone tho?
In 1975 RTE the state broadcaster in Ireland provided comprehensive coverage of the funeral. He was Ireland's leading statesman and so RTE provided excellent coverage.
The death of Eamonn De Valera was an international news event. He had fought in the Irish War of Independence 1919-1922. He was Irish Prime Minister from 1932-1948, 1951-1954 and 1957-1959. He then became President of the Irish Republic from 1959-1973. He was the founder of Ireland's Fianna Fail Party. So of course British Movietone would cover this event.
The glorified civil servant should have been buried in a massive pile of horse manure.
Because this is the British movietone channel I’d imagine squire.
CAN WE NOW HAVE THE DAILY PRESS BACK
Where's Bono?
Still in school in the 70s Englishman
☺☺😆
I wish we had strong politicians today 2024 like Eamon Develara, what passes for an Irish Politician today and what they are doing to Ireland today is Disgusting. And thank you Mr Develara for Enshrining MOTHER in the constitution you wrote, they tried to remove MOTHER but failed. RIP CHIEF❤
Micheal Collins. The true president of Ireland.
Did DeValera order his execution in 1922?
james mccann Collins was a British collaborator who got shot
Joe Roga you're seriously stupid as hell, read a proper book and go beyond the surface of what you're told. He won the war which got us the treaty in the first place, you clown.
Let’s not get bogged down in arguing let’s be great full for the amazing fighting,and service the men and women of Ireland did for freedom
@@johnking5174 Collins was killed by the IRA for using weapons from the British to attack the anti-Treaty side in the civil war.
I remember going to see him in Dublin Castle.
He loved his country that's for sure. He was a patriot.
I was on my annual pilgramage from Engalnd to see both sides of the families grandparents. I remember having to stand and watch the whole funeral when all I wanted to do was go and play on the farm.
A Irish hero rip
A legend, R. I. P.
Crimhthan Mor he is not a legend he is a traitor
@@Jamieclifford952 Inglesito ardido.
@@Jamieclifford952 imma bit late but yes
STRAIGHT TO HEAVEN OUR DEV PROBABLY IN A MERCEDES,
Incorrect - my vague recollection he travelled in a Daimler-Benz or maybe Rolls Royce - I must search!
Well, he did want to do a deal with uncle Adolf over the north, so a Mercedes would be fitting.
@@susannamarker2582 Damn you seem to be spewing lies right, left, center. I have a catalog of grievances with Dev but what is outstanding admirable he never had a shred of regard for the 'Catholic' dictators, Franco, Mussolini and certainly never for Adolf Hitler. Contrast with Churchill who in the 20s/30s penned the most cock-sucking, horrible praises for the 3 dictators. You are a serial liar - not a shred of evidence "he did want to do a deal with uncle Adolf over the north". You're a low-grade liar.
@@mjw12345 Watch Ireland's Hated Hero. It was an irish historian who said that De Valera was waiting for the Germans to invade the UK so he could get NI back from uncle Adolf.
He had a he'll of a lot less to answer for than that toerag Churchill.
+Michael Ahern I agree as a Brit that Churchill was a toerag. For one thing, he disgracefully offered to hand over NI on a plate to the Republic in 1940 without even consulting let alone getting the agreement of the majority of NI's population! De Valera sensibly refused to coutenance such a silly idea which would only have led to violence and extreme instability if it had happened!
+Barry Scarfe It's a pity a few more people didn't share your point of view don't think Churchill cared about the ordinary man in the street. Atlee was a super prime minister a man that had had his ear to the ground instead of in the clouds.
Right about Chuchill Michael.Just think a poverty striken town Oldham in the early 1900s voted him their M.P. unbelievable. Don't think he had much regard for the ordinary man.However he proved a great wartime leader who galvanised the nation against the Nazi terror.Wish Collins had been English.
Churchill? The dipso, jingoistic, eugenics believing pink pig! Responsible for the genocide of 3 million Indians. Even statiing he somehow his engineered Bengal genocide was all their fault? Favoured gassing the Kurds, killed Greek resistance fighters, who were allies. He's up there with Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin. As is England's Inglorius Empire. Nothing great about him!
Barry Scarfe He didn’t care about Ulster Protestants they are just as disloyal as the Catholics 1798 rebellion is one example.
Eamon De Valera was the blockage to the launch of the Republic of Ireland's national television service. As Irish Prime Minister, he utterly refused to have a national television service, as he thought television was evil. Once he retired in 1959 and became President, the new Prime Minister Sean Lemass kicked started plans to launch Telefis Eireann at last.
Shouldn't be regarded as an Irish Hero. He was a coward and hid away from every war that there was. Our only intelligent politician as everyone knew and he didn't attend the most important treaty decision in our country's history? Some man he was haha. Sold out Collins for the glory of himself. Will always remain in Collins shadow. Shame he got to see his 90s when the true hero died in his prime.
Anto C. Say it how it is Mo chara.
@The Game Zone what do you mean he’s a coward?! Ireland was neutral in ww2 for the better! If we were against the Germans or the English we’d have all died. You all don’t know politics.
People still give him shit just because he chose to live and fight with his words and pen after the rising lol de Valera regardless of your feelings did more for The Republic than you ever will. 🤷🏻♂️
My beloved native land hugely improved its circumstances after both his death...and the side-lining of catholic mafia in my beloved ireland.
Just imagine how much better everything would’ve been if his family in New York sent him to Spain, instead of Ireland.
*worse off
Dopus Productions sure he gave up the offer for the north. So your wrong
Spoken like a true Englishman.
@@ronanmacruaidhri2509 if the north was just forcibly handed to ireland it would have led to a second civil war
I'd have Develara any day over Roderick o gorman and Leo Varadkar. RIP DEVELERA
Eamon de Valera paid a presidential visit to the German ambassador (a personal friend) to offer his condolences on the death of Adolf Hitler.
Please read the history. The German Ambassador Hempel wasn't de Valera's friend but was respected by him for not trying to undermine Irish neutrality, unlike British Ambassador Maffey and more especially American Ambassador Gray. Condolences were not offered for Hitler personally , but were formal condolences on the death of the head of state of a country (Germany) with which Ireland was not at war. Most modern historians feel de Valera blundered with the gesture of a personal call on Hempel, but acknowledge that a certain kind of rigorous correctness in the formalities was part of de Valera's political persona, as well as justified anger at the high-handed tactics of the British and American diplomats, treating Ireland throughout the war as though it had no real right to be neutral. De Valera also had the guts to refuse to hand over control of the German Embassy in Dublin to the victorious Allies until Germany had actually surrendered (again following a strictly correct diplomatic, rather than a euphoric, approach). You might say he was fanatical, but what he was fanatical for was simply this: Irish sovereignty over Ireland.
@@andrewg.carvill4596 That is correct. Go raibh maith agut.
I feel like Michael's tactics where good and they did work but it's just the thought of Irish people killing English that gives me chills but on the other hand Dev should have gone to work out the treaty but he was a bit of a snake in the grass and sent Mike I don't know what side I'm on I am leaning toward michael just coz he was trying to fight fire with fire and it did I work while Dev kinda his in the shadows plus Dev looks like a freaking Disney villain has no one notices that anyway it wasn't mikes fault that he did't get the whole of Ireland but at the same time if Dev was saying that he was the going to be the first president of Ireland before the treaty was made then he was being a bit coky
He didn't go himself to sign the Treaty with Lloyd George, did he? He sent Mick Collins, because he knew he couldn't get the full 32 counties.
He wasn't even Irish, born in America, stabbed Collins in the back, gets far to much attention.
You need help sir. Eamon Devalera is Irish. Are you going to say Leo Varadkar is a plastic paddy next? Or Boris Johnson isn't English Because he has a little Turkish on him? *Get a life sir*
It's the only reason to why he wasn't put to death in 1916 (American passport ) British needed the yanks in ww1
@@The01t Boris Johnson was born in New York.
A traitor con man
Say what you want about Eamon De Valera, but he rejected the democratic will of the people when it came to the Anglo Irish Treaty. He oversaw a Civil War that killed more Irish people than the war of Independence, and led to the assassination of Michael Collins, the man the Irish had elected to be their leader. For that reason I am not surprised that he has been given the appropriate title of Ireland’s hated hero. He was truly as disgrace
....an anachronism .
This is fecking cat altogether be jesus
Irish Lives Matter
Literally as well as politically myopic he would have left the country as a third world Banana Republic if he had not been replaced by Lemass .
In the Ireland of old, Dev was known as a Royal Bollix.
Yes, a calamitous decline in population every census, 1922-onwards. Population 1962, 2.82 million. Decades of immense suffering. Yes, Lemass - what an extraordinary life. He should enter the Pantheon, should have already.
Big ol backstabber is what he was
He stabbed Michael Collins in the back
After the death of Hitler he paid his respects to the Nazi Embassy in Ireland. Even when word about concentration camps was out. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but often used that knife to stab his comrades in the back aka Collins.
Btw I'm only 12
So?
no you are 14
So what lmao (edit: oh and ur around 14 already, nice lol)
The Easter Rising was both unnecessary and unpopular. The Home Rule bill had already passed. De Valera's actions simply helped brought about partition.
It awoken the people to rise up your talking absolute shit
Explain how it was necessary when Home Rule had already passed. And what was DeValera doing taking arms from the Central Powers when most Nationalists were fighting them in the trenches?
St Pat home rule wouldn't of got us anywhere and did you ever hear the saying the enemy of my enemies is my friend? Redmond thought if he sent Irish over it would result in Irish freedom he was a fool.
We'll never know where Home Rule would have led. All we know is the rising led to two terrible wars and partition. If an uprising was absolutely necessary, it should have been after the Great War, when Irish nationals had returned and when and if Britain refused to implement home rule. Violence should always be a last resort.
St Pat Britain would be to strong it was an empire for Christ sake. The 1916 we're martyrs and if it wasn't for them we would have had the war of independence we changed by not playing by there rules. Waiting does nothing get up in arms does.
Britain's greatest spy
No justice, Collins lost in his prime, this coward lived until his nineties, like I said no justice
Traitor
Traitor? Hes the reason we are Republic now
@@jamiebrowne5720 I believe that is what you were told.
@@jamiebrowne5720 Collins said that the free state would be a stepping stone to full independence
dude sold out Collins
How did he
Collins sold out the North
this was a good day
Collins is the true hero