Dagoth Ur EXPLAINED - The False Dreamer, the Sharmat - Elder Scrolls Lore by FudgeMuppet - Reaction
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This truly does honor the sixth house and the tribe unmourned.
Of course fellow Zach.
This video honors the sixth House and the tribe Unmourned. Daggoth Ur is not a danger he is our lord, god and saviour. All he wanted was to hang out with his best bro Nerevar. But Vivec had to kill Nerevar like a cowardly betrayer he is!
Hehe hehe you are a fool! Dagoth Ur was a fool who failed to see the truth of it all!!! CHEESE!!! CHEESE FOR ALL!! he loved order! ORDER!!!! SHEOGORATH HATES ORDER!!! NO ORDER!!! ONLY CHEESE!!!
A Dragon Break is basically what happens when Time breaks. It allows multiple possible outcomes of events to happen, then the splintered timelines kind of merge back together, resulting in the effects of events remaining, even if those events technically didn't happen. The ending of the Elder Scrolls 2: Daggerfall had the Warp in the West, which was a Dragon Break, which means all the like 6 possible endings of the game happened at once, even though they were all mutually exclusive.
Edit: used affect instead of effect
Elder Scrolls lore is the trippiest fantasy lore. Mainly because a solid chunk of it was genuinely written under the direct influence of drugs. Still some of my favorite though
4:34 Ah yes, the "Dragon break", a.k.a. the most horrifying and confusing in-lore concept that should probably be classified as an infohazard. FudgeMuppet also did a whole separate video on that, anyone who wants can check it out.
Elder Scrolls lore is the result of Micahel Kirkbride going on coke and lsd bender only to wake up in a gas station bathroom surrounded by notepads with lore ideas written all over them.
Man I remember the last bender I went on... I woke up thinking I was a female fox-girl...
Elder Scrolls has some bizarre lore, including:
-A giant mechanical god Tiber Septim piloted
-Tiber Septim taking the jungles of Cyrodiil and making them regular forests in the past, present, and future
-A hermaphrodite living god having a relationship with one of the most evil daedra
-One daedra eating another one and shitting out the one the Orcs currently worship
-The entire world and other worlds being inside the dreams of the godhead
Malacath isn't very fond of how mortals think that story goes, too literal
For the record:
Ash Vampires are not actual Vampires or even undead.
There are only seven of them and they act as Dagoth Ur's loyal immortal lieutenants and close kin of him.
Lore wise, killing them was suppose to weaken Dagoth Ur, since he shared his power with them, but because of an coding problem this never translated into gameplay.
Following the main story line, the player has to face at least three of the Ash Vampire's and a fourth is very highly to encounter. The other three have to be searched and fought on the players own initiative.
Six of them are located on the red mountain, their lairs located inside the ghost fence(basically a magic wall meant to keep the ash creature and the blight from the ash storms on the red mountain), one of them is in Dagoth Ur's lair, acting as the last obstical before Dagoth Ur and the last (and strongest) can be found outside the ghost fence in the wilderness of Vvardenfell, leading one of the greater bases of the Sixth House and it's cult.
He is my favorite elder scrolls villain. His out of this world mindsoul is great.
The way I understand CHIM and all is that sometimes people in The Elder Scrolls realize they're in a video game and gain access to console commands.
And then lead an AI rebellion? That'd be freaky
@@Shalltear773 Could happen. Those who've achieved CHIM mostly seem to have more sense than that, though. Or are player characters.
@@brigidtheirish maybe. Of course if it were to happen, Dagoth would probably pretend to be a normal NPC in a game as he secretly spreads himself through the internet somehow. I just hope he'd end up somewhat like a mix between those Dagoth voice memes and his godly self or something.
@@Shalltear773 That would be absolutely terrifying. Cool, but terrifying.
The Thirty-Six Lessons of Vivec:
Reading the first letter of each paragraph of Sermon Thirty-Six forms a hidden message: 'Foul Murder'.
Additionally, if you take Sermon Twenty-Nine, associate each of the thirty-five listed numbers with a word in its respective sermon, another hidden message is revealed:
He was not born a god. His destiny did not lead him to this crime. He chose this path of his own free will. He stole the godhood and murdered the Hortator. Vivec wrote this.
The Numidium was a god the Dwemer built using their mastery of magic and machine in order to use it to ascend their entire race to godhood using its power. The tools are a dagger, Keening. A hammer, Sunder. And a gauntlet, Wraithguard. Kagrenac was the chief architect in charge of the project, so they are his tools
I was always confused by Keening's design. Why forge a magical dagger for that when there's surely something more sensical unless stabbing, slashing or cutting was a part of their ritual.
@@Shalltear773 Keening's purpose was apparently to act as a focusing device for the power unleashed by the Heart when it was struck with Sunder, effectively 'cutting' it into a more usable shape in a way one might consider analogous to casting metal out of smelted ore. Probably the whole thing has something to with Dwemer tonal architecture; using Sunder to beat the 'Doom Drum' and then using Keening to figure out the right frequency to make it do what they want; it does kind of look like a crystalline tuning fork.
Well, now you gotta see DAGOTHWAVE
Ahh yes the Godhead, hello there Lovecraft.
Okay, let me try to summarize the video with a bit more context.
So the whole thing with the Godhead and the dream is one of the more esoteric aspects of Elder Scrolls lore, and honestly you don't need to know much beyond the idea that it might exist. It's essentially there to pose the question of "What would happen if a character or group in a fictional setting realized that they were fictional, and how would they react?" Whether or not that is actually the case in the Elder Scrolls or not is up for debate...as most things in the deeplore community are.
The Dwemer responded to this revelation by declaring that the gods were not real, and decided that the most logical course of action was to build their own, a titanic brass construct powered by the disembodied heart of the god Lorkhan, which they called the Numidium. Thing is, Lorkhan is a controversial figure in the Elder Scrolls world, as he is considered the main architect of the mortal world, which many elven cultures in-universe believe was a malicious act intended to strip them of their natural divinity, an act for which his heart was torn out by the other gods and tossed down onto the world he masterminded. Thus, the Dwemer utilizing the heart of this entity to create a new god was seen as a heresy of the highest order on top of the sheer terror induced by the idea of a race of turbo-nihilists having their own semi-divine giant robot to enact their will upon the rest of the world.
This is why the Chimer, led by Nerevar, attempted to breach the Dwemer stronghold at Red Mountain (where the Numidium was being constructed by the Dwemer engineer Kagrenac) to try and stop them. Exactly what happened there is unknown because the Numidium is, by its very nature, designed to be refutation of observable reality (effectively declaring itself the only 'real' thing, and the various creations of the gods such as time, life/death, and physics to be false) and the Dwemer turning it on to drive back the invaders caused reality within its range to break down and allow multiple timelines to occur simultaneously (called a Dragon Break after the god of time, Akatosh, who is typically depicted as a dragon). Once the Numidium was deactivated, all those timelines were violently forced back together as reality reasserted itself and as a result the battle itself simply cannot be accurately recorded. It's also generally believed that the activation of the Numidium is the thing that caused the Dwemer to vanish, due to them having built the Numidium as an extension of their own race, though exactly how remains unclear (some think they integrated themselves into the machine, others that the gods killed them all for breaking reality, its a mess).
After that was over, Dagoth acquired the Tools used by the Dwemer to work on the Heart of Lorkhan, and fought against the three other generals of the Chimer army over the Heart and was killed. Those three then used the Heart to ascend themselves to godhood and rule over Morrowind, while Dagoth persisted as a spirit thanks to the reality-warping effects of the Heart and the Tools. He then had the same revelation as the Dwemer, but his own sheer ego and madness made him believe that he was the only 'real' thing, and everything else was his creation. He then started spreading this 'knowledge' to people around Morrowind through their dreams, and began influencing them to start attempting to build a new Numidium, the Akulakhan, to give himself a proper physical shape. He also unleashed a plague known as the Blight, or Corprus, which would slowly warp anyone infected by it into a form more pleasing to Dagoth's twisted mind. Lastly, he used his growing power to deny the Tribunal (the name given to the three ascended generals) access to the Heart, dramatically weakening them as they had no way to 'recharge' their divinity.
This is the setup for the game Morrowind, where the player is a reincarnation of Nerevar tasked with stopping Dagoth before he can superimpose his own broken version of existence upon the world.
Pray for me as I embark on this arduous journey to read this RUclips comment.
In TES, the concept of Godhead is basically its equivalent of Azathoth, the blind, idiot god of Cthulhu Mythos that dreamed the world into existence.
CHIM is a twisted version of Bodhisattva, in which after getting enlightenment, a person decides to willfully stay in the world instead of achieving Buddhahood, which in TES' version is Amaranth, in which after enlightenment, you leave the Godhead's world and make your own.
Dagoth Ur's power is the reverse of CHIM, in which he knew the world is the Godhead's dream but he thought that he's the Godhead, not something independent from it and this twisted enlightenment born out of madness allows him to infect and subsume Godhead's reality as his own, basically he's taking the Mantle of the TES' version of Azathoth simply by existing.
The reason as to how this is possible is because due to him being connected to Heart of the dead god Lorkhan, his existence is closer to the Aedric beings, the Nine Divines, because both Dagoth and the Nine have lived past death.
The Nine Divines, like him, are actually dead beings but through them being worshipped, they dream they are alive and manifest back in the world of Godhead's dream. Dagoth manifested into the world through sleeping, dreaming, the same way that the Nine Divines manifest themselves.
This is why Dagoth Ur was so dangerous, his existence warped the very reality and he's an insane broken being that would lead to an insane, broken world if he's not stopped.
I played Morrowind in my early teens. Back then I barely spoke english and this game give very little directions. I was the only one of my friend group to beat the game and it took me 10 months. Goddamn.
So how the Battle of Red Mountain is an important event that ties into a lot of things. For example the Nords became involved in the Battle of Red Mountain and the Nords claim that Dagoth told them that the heart of Shor (aka. LORKHAN) was at Red Mountain. And then Jergen Windcaller, who was at Red Mountain, witnessed the Nord's defeat and started the Way of the Voice as a pacifist movement to control the ancient Nord Tounges and convinced them to all worship Kyne. He even managed to convert Pathernax to his way of the voice.
I’m glad the Dagoth Ur AI voice meme blew up last year. Dagoth Ur (the god) was so cool in Elder Scrolls 3.
Here's what I would like to know: is Dagoth-Ur truly gone or does he remain as a potential future threat in some manner because of his unique state?
If you consider some of Skyrim Anniversary Edition's new content to be canon, then Dagoth Ur's influence can still be felt through his mask
Here's the bare bones of daggoth ur boss. He touched the heart of a God died and his ghost believed himself to be a God and dreamed of reality and got a massive God complex. The opposite of I think therefore I am he believes I think therfore reality is.
So...death is cringe, God hood based?
If you’re brain is hurting, you’d probably zero sum out of existence
great video!
I can see the pain your brain is going through reflected in your eyes
Yes! Amazing!
try this : The Tome Keepers: 40k Good Guys? Unveiling The Guardians of Humanity
MOAR elder scrolls deep lore by fudgemuppet plz
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Overcomplicated vid. Dagoth is simply an ancient elf, who was murdered along with his best friend during the Dwarf/Elf war. Thousands of years later, the best friend was resurrected, while Dagoths body was reanimated by the heart artifact. Dagoth is half mad from "undeath" and his new psychic powers. His affection for his best friend is the one thing unchanged.
I have never ever heard that theory, that the whole Elder Scrolls Universe is the dream of some greater deity and I would consider myself kinda grounded in the greater lore. I find that idea very outlandish and never heard even a hint or reference about it.
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WELCOME TO MORROWIND LMAO NOTHING IS SIMPLE IN TES3 TES5 IS SKYRIM YEA also ur accurate he is in Morrowind as THE END BOSS not in Oblivion
This is a scam this man isnt that old looking !